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What's the deal with T20 bowling?

81 All Out - A Cricket PodcastApr 08, 2024

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What's the deal with T20 bowling?

What's the deal with T20 bowling?

How much does bowling matter in T20s and how does one measure the potency of a bowler in this format? What are the measures of excellence for a T20 bowler? 

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Talking Points:

  • How does one describe a good T20 bowler?
  • Is it possible to separate actions and outcomes for T20 bowling? 
  • A format that offers the bowlers almost no leverage
  • What is the role of bowlers in a contest designed to be between bat and bat?
  • Does a great T20 bowler need any particular skills? 
  • The value of bowlers with unconventional actions
  • What Jasprit Bumrah does well in T20s
  • Why T20 bowlers can't be viewed in the same way as Test or ODI bowlers
  • Can we gauge bowling in T20s before hitting has reached its full potential?
  • The future of T20 bowling - and why some rule changes can bring bowlers into the game
  • The Harshal Patel problem for T20 bowlers
  • Are teams being inefficient when paying huge sums for bowlers?

Participants:

Siddhartha Vaidyanathan (@sidvee)

Mahesh Sethuraman (@cornerd)

Ashoka (@ABVan)

Karthikeya Date (@cricketingview) | Substack | ESPNcricinfo

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Related:

  • Hitting v Batting: the choice that dictates the shape of a T20 contest - 81allout podcast
  • Bowling doesn't really matter in T20 - Kartikeya Date - Cricketingview
  • Ferociously fast and thrillingly direct: how Mayank went bang, bang, bang - Karthik Krishnaswamy - ESPNcricinfo
  • 'If you go searching for wickets in T20, you're playing into the batsman's hand' - Samuel Badree interview by Nagraj Gollapudi - The Cricket Monthly
  • ICC recommends ODI rule changes - Cricket Australia 
Apr 08, 202401:12:35
Picking a T20 XI from the 1980s and '90s

Picking a T20 XI from the 1980s and '90s

T20 started in the early 2000s but what if the format was invented 15 years earlier. Who were the players who would have excelled in the shorter format? We decided to pick a T20 side from the era before the IPL and debated how Aravinda de Silva and Brian Lara might have changed their game for T20s. And if players like Ricardo Powell and Adrian Kuiper would have had more illustrious careers than they did.

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Talking Points:

  • The evolution of ODIs and T20s - and how both took about 20 years ago mature
  • Would players like Sunil Narine have been as big a star if not for T20s?
  • The West Indian legacy in terms of accelerating the T20 evolution
  • Which players from the past would have thrived in this format?
  • Would you have heard much more of Alistair Brown and Michael Di Venuto had T20s been around earlier? 
  • Would Aravinda de Silva have continued his Mad Max avatar in T20s?
  • Ricardo Powell, Atul Bedade, Robin Singh - the superstars who could have been
  • Players like Lance Klusener who rigorously practiced range-hitting 
  • The value of a good googly bowler in T20s

Participants:

Siddhartha Vaidyanathan (@sidvee)

Mahesh Sethuraman (@cornerd)

Ashoka (@ABVan)

Deepauk Murugesan (@complicateur

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Related:

  •  Ijaz Ahmed's 84-ball 139 v India in Lahore in 1997 - YouTube
  • When Surrey smashed the 50-over World Record thanks to Alistair Brown's 268 - YouTube
  • When Kapil Dev hit four sixes in a row to avoid the follow-on at Lord's - YouTube
  • Atul Bedade's big day in Sharjah - YouTube
Mar 24, 202401:18:55
India dismantle England in lop-sided finale: India v England, 5th Test review

India dismantle England in lop-sided finale: India v England, 5th Test review

We review the fifth Test between India and England in Dharamshala – where India stamped their authority with a win by an innings and 64 runs.

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Talking Points:

  • A one-sided – and thoroughly expected – end to a Test series in India
  • The Bazball delusion 
  • England's inadequate bowling resources thoroughly exposed
  • Kuldeep the genius - a wristspinner with both variety and control 
  • R Ashwin caps off his 100th Test with signature spells
  • The first morning - when Bumrah and Siraj made the ball talk
  • The challenge against spin for Duckett, Pope, Stokes, and Bairstow 
  • Did England Bazball enough or too much? And why it doesn't matter
  • When Shubman Gill was at his fluent best
  • The problem with England playing Anderson and hardly bowling him
  • England not replacing the injured Leach and Rehan - and over-bowling Bashir

Participants:

Siddhartha Vaidyanathan (@sidvee)

Mahesh Sethuraman (@cornerd)

Ashoka (@ABVan)

Kartikeya Date (@cricketingview) | Substack | ESPNcricinfo page

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Related:

  •  IND Win By An Innings In Dharamsala, Finish Series 4-1 - Kartikeya Date - Cricketingview
  • On Ravichandran Ashwin - India's greatest matchwinner - Kartikeya Date - Cricketingview 
  • Just sit back and get ready to marvel at R Ashwin, for the 100th time - Karthik Krishnaswamy - ESPNcricinfo
  • Joe Root on facing Ashwin and Lyon - Sky Cricket podcast - YouTube
  • How India Bazballed England - Himanish Ganjoo - X (formerly Twitter)

 

Mar 11, 202401:08:34
A win for the ages: India v England, 4th Test review

A win for the ages: India v England, 4th Test review

We review the fourth Test between India and England in Ranchi – where India sealed a series with a magnificent five-wicket win. 

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Talking Points:

  • The third-innings bowling that capped another brilliant third-day fightback
  • India's forced accelerated transition - with a team full of youngsters
  • Dhruv Jurel's expert batting with the tail
  • Ashwin, Jadeja, Kuldeep - an undecipherable trio 
  • Bazball sucking all the oxygen out of the England media
  • Did England miss a trick by not bowling Anderson and Robinson enough?
  • How England's statements often ran opposite to their actions
  • Could England have done better in India if they shelved Bazball?
  • Akash Deep's dream first spell

Participants:

Siddhartha Vaidyanathan (@sidvee)

Mahesh Sethuraman (@cornerd)

Ashoka (@ABVan)

Kartikeya Date (@cricketingview) | Substack | ESPNcricinfo page

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Related:

  • Ranchi win epitomises current era of India's Test team with promise for the next one - Karthik Krishnaswamy - ESPNcricinfo
  • India Pull Off Sensational Heist Against Negative England In Ranchi - Kartikeya Date - Cricketingview Substack
  • Fog of post-truth Baz-chat obscures England’s progress under Ben Stokes - Barney Ronay - Guardian
  • England lose series in India - Sky Cricket Vodcast - YouTube

 

Feb 28, 202401:03:44
India hand England a right royal thumping: India v England, 3rd Test review

India hand England a right royal thumping: India v England, 3rd Test review

We review the third Test between India and England in Rajkot – where a terrific all-round performance helped India go 2-1 up. 

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Talking Points:

  • India's magnificent bowling on Day 3
  • How the flat pitches in this series are neutralizing Bazball
  • India's spinners - turning the ball more with greater control
  • Why England's batting tactics are actually a tribute to India's great bowling
  • Why India are actually relentlessly attacking while England are highly defensive
  • Why England should have played an extra seamer in all three Tests
  • The problem for England's spinners in India - lack of control
  • Sarfaraz Khan's old-school method of lofting spinners 
  • Shubman Gill's tweak to his technique
  • Ashwin's 500th, Jadeja's stupendous Test
  • Mohammad Siraj - non-stop relentless 


Participants:

Siddhartha Vaidyanathan (@sidvee)

Mahesh Sethuraman (@cornerd)

Ashoka (@ABVan)

Kartikeya Date (@cricketingview) | Substack | ESPNcricinfo page

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Related:

  • Craft Kuldeep undoes Bazball - Karthik Krishnaswamy - ESPNcricinfo
  • India win by 434 runs - Kartikeya Date - Cricketingview Substack
  • What next for Bazball after India crush England - Sky Cricket Vodcast - YouTube
  • R Ashwin: the 5D chess master of modern cricket - Jarrod Kimber - YouTube
Feb 20, 202401:17:18
Awesome Bumrah helps India draw level: India v England, 2nd Test review

Awesome Bumrah helps India draw level: India v England, 2nd Test review

We review the second Test between India and England in Visakhapatnam – where Jasprit Bumrah powered India to a 106-run win. 

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Talking Points:

  • A celebration of Test cricket
  • A series with echoes of the 2016-17 home series v Australia 
  • Are England really playing Bazball?
  • India's decision to play five bowlers even with an inexperienced batting line-up
  • Does anyone think of drawing a Test match these days?
  • Jasprit Bumrah: an artist operating on a different plane to the rest
  • James Anderson's spell and the mystery around how little he bowls in India
  • Did England pick one spinner too many?
  • Yashasvi Jaiswal's crackling double-hundred
  • Shubman Gill making the most of his luck to a fine Test hundred
  • Do these pitches give India the best chance v England?

Participants:

Siddhartha Vaidyanathan (@sidvee)

Mahesh Sethuraman (@cornerd)

Ashoka (@ABVan)

Kartikeya Date (@cricketingview) | Substack | ESPNcricinfo page

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Related:

  • Jasprit Bumrah press conference after Day 2 - BCCI.tv
  • Sky Cricket podcast with Michael Atherton and Nasser Hussain - YouTube
  • India Beat England By 106 runs- Kartikeya Date - Cricketingview Substack
  • Jasprit Bumrah's spells in West Indies in 2019 - Antigua, Kingston - YouTube
Feb 06, 202401:18:52
Pope, Hartley, and a remarkable win: India v England, 1st Test review

Pope, Hartley, and a remarkable win: India v England, 1st Test review

We review the first Test between India and England in Hyderabad – where India lost a Test match at home after gaining a first-innings lead of 190.  

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Talking Points:

  • One of England's greatest wins
  • Ollie Pope's freakish 196
  • India's approach to facing left-arm spin
  • Why England choose to sweep and reverse-sweep India's spinners
  • Bazball and the approach to risk-taking
  • India's batters getting out to unforced errors after being set
  • Jasprit Bumrah's astonishing range 

Participants:

Siddhartha Vaidyanathan (@sidvee)

Mahesh Sethuraman (@cornerd)

Ashoka (@ABVan)

Kartikeya Date (@cricketingview) | Substack | ESPNcricinfo page

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Related:

  • Sky Cricket podcast with Michael Atherton and Nasser Hussain - Sky Sports
  • How England cracked the risk-reward equation in Hyderabad - S Rajesh - ESPNcricinfo
  • England begin their series in India with a win... Again - Kartikeya Date - Cricketingview Substack
  • Jasprit Bumrah interview with Ali Martin - Guardian
  • Bharat Arun interview - 81allout podcast

 

Jan 30, 202401:16:34
When India faced Nas ball: rewind to England's tour of India in 2001

When India faced Nas ball: rewind to England's tour of India in 2001

We rewind to England's tour to India in 2001-02 - when India won the three-Test series 1-0 and England leveled the six-match ODI series 3-3. England arrived in India on the back of terrific series wins in Sri Lanka and Pakistan - and despite a green bowling attack managed to gave India a scare in two Tests. 

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Talking Points:

  • The uncertainty around the tour because of the events around 9/11
  • India's eventful 2001 - epic wins, big defeats, and plenty of controversy 
  • The similar (yet contrasting) narratives around the captaincy of Nasser Hussain and Sourav Ganguly 
  • How England's raw bowling attack found a way to restrict India's batting line-up
  • The legend of Ashley Giles bowling a negative line from over the wicket
  • Tendulkar's peak - and the unrealistic high standards everyone set for him
  • Craig White and Matthew Hoggard: coming of age on a tough tour
  • The Bangalore Test that could have been played in Headingley
  • The threat of Sehwag at No.7 
  • Marcus Trescothick's dream run in the one-dayers
  • When Flintoff took his shirt off

Participants:

Siddhartha Vaidyanathan (@sidvee)

DP Prashant (@prashantdptweet)

Ashoka (@ABVan)

Mahesh Sethuraman (@cornerd)

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Related:

  • India v England, Ahmedabad Test highlights, 2001-02 - YouTube
  • India v England, Bangalore Test highlights, 2001-02 - YouTube
  • England divided by safety worries - Mike Selvey.- Guardian
  • Playing with Fire - Nasser Hussain autobiography - Amazon
  • Coming Back to Me - Marcus Trescothick autobiography - Amazon

 

Jan 16, 202401:15:11
India level series after shootout in Cape Town

India level series after shootout in Cape Town

We review the two-Test series between South Africa and India - which ended 1-1 after a bowler-dominated shootout in Cape Town. 

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Talking Points:

  • India's missed opportunity to finally win a series in SA
  • Why the Cape Town pitch backfired on South Africa
  • India's lack of fast bowling depth - a sign of more struggles in future away series
  • Mohammad Siraj's dream spell on the first morning in Cape Town 
  • Dean Elgar's century: a tale of plays-and-misses and cashing in on poor bowling
  • Aiden Markram's astonishing attack
  • Where Rabada and Bumrah showed their class: figuring out the conditions
  • Rohit Sharma's comments about the pitch - and potential double-standards
  • Are these short Tests harming the format? Or are they ideal for entertainment? 

Participants:

Siddhartha Vaidyanathan (@sidvee)

Mahesh Sethuraman (@cornerd)

Ashoka (@ABVan)

Kartikeya Date (@cricketingview) | Substack | ESPNcricinfo page

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Related:

  • India prove their golden age has plenty of kick left - Sidharth Monga - ESPNcricinfo 
  • Mean Reversion - Kartikeya Date - Cricketingview - Substack
  • Newlands pitch the tip of WP’s iceberg of problems - Telford Vice - Wordpress
  • On the ICC pitch evaluation system - Kartikeya Date - Cricketingview - Substack
  • Crime and punishment: warnings, fines, bans and let-offs - Alok Prasanna Kumar - The Cricket Monthly 
Jan 07, 202401:04:38
What we talk about when we talk about luck

What we talk about when we talk about luck

We chat with Karthik Krishnaswamy and Kartikeya Date about the role of luck in cricket and how we can better describe the game by separating actions from outcomes. 

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Talking Points:

  • Luck v skill - and why the two are not opposed to each other
  • The traditional method of describing cricket - by ascribing reasons for outcomes
  • Why it is hard for fans to accept 'luck' as a major part of a sporting contest
  • The luck component in different sports - and the 'optimal' luck cricket needs
  • The brief phase in each ball when neither batter or bowler is in total control 
  • India's loss to New Zealand in 2020 against an attack best suited for the conditions 
  • England's strategy v spin in the 2019 World Cup compared to their strategy in the 2023 World Cup
  • The model of the game that views contest without the layer of chauvinism 
  • The post-facto analysis that accompanies most discussions around captaincy

Participants:

Karthik Krishnaswamy (@the_kk) | ESPNcricinfo page

Kartikeya Date (@cricketingview) | Substack | ESPNcricinfo page

Siddhartha Vaidyanathan (@sidvee)

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Related:

  • What's luck got to do with it: a control review of the World Cup - Kartikeya Date - ESPNcricinfo 
  • Virat Kohli's battle with himself - Karthik Krishnaswamy - ESPNcricinfo
  • The Virat Kohli century that was a trip back in time - Karthik Krishnaswamy - ESPNcricinfo
  • What we talk about when we talk about pressure - Podcast with Abhinav Mukund - 81allout
  • What we talk about when we talk about cricket - Podcast with Daniel Norcross - 81allout
  • Are some points in Tennis more important than others? - Kartikeya Date - Cricketingview substack
  • Luck and skill untangled: the science of success – Michael Mauboussin interview – Wired
  • Why it’s so much harder to predict winners in ice hockey than basketball – Vox – YouTube
Dec 16, 202301:37:25
A World Cup that had so much (and could have had so much more) - Rahul Bhattacharya interview

A World Cup that had so much (and could have had so much more) - Rahul Bhattacharya interview

We are thrilled to have novelist and cricket writer Rahul Bhattacharya to talk about his experiences from the World Cup.

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Talking points: 

  • Cricket writing v cricket analysis - and how each is a specialised job
  • Does the BCCI care for what is written about them in the press?
  • The antipathy towards Indian and foreign fans throughout this World Cup
  • The staggering amount of money people were willing to pay for tickets
  • The experience of covering a match at Ahmedabad
  • India v Pakistan - and how the discourse seems to be war minus the shooting
  • Jasprit Bumrah - what can't he do?
  • The electricity of India's fast bowling trio
  • Maxwell's fantastical night
  • Rohit Sharma - the dada batsman
  • Virat Kohli's fitness - and his Djokovic-level fitness
  • Australia's perfect game in the final
  • Travis Head and his Gilchrist-like audacity
  • The 'anyone but India' sentiment pervading much of the cricket world

Participants:

Rahul Bhattacharya

Siddhartha Vaidyanathan (@sidvee)

Ashoka (@ABVan)

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Related:

  • What the World Cup means - Rahul Bhattacharya - Hindustan Times
  • Many shades of the Indian cricket fan - Rahul Bhattacharya - Hindustan Times
  • With a skip and a stutter, Bumrah conjures up another miracle - Rahul Bhattacharya - Hindustan Times
  •  They turn up to watch India bowl - Rahul Bhattacharya - Hindustan Times
  • Rahul Bhattacharya's Hindustan Times columns
  • Pakistan fans a glaring absence at India Cricket World Cup clash - Rahul Bhattacharya - Al Jazeera
  • Indian hype for Cricket World Cup will grow but fans come off second best - Rahul Bhattacharya - Guardian
  • Shiv on the Shore - Rahul Bhattacharya profiles Shivnarine Chanderpaul - The Cricket Monthly 
  • Pundits from Pakistan - Rahul Bhattacharya - Amazon
  • Sly Company of People who care - Rahul Bhattacharya - Amazon 
  • Buy War Minus the Shooting by Mike Marqusee - Amazon
  • Buy Cricket Beyond the Bazaar by Mike Coward - Amazon


Nov 29, 202301:43:04
Extraordinary Australia silence India: World Cup final review

Extraordinary Australia silence India: World Cup final review

We review the World Cup final where Travis Head and Pat Cummins inspired a triumph for the ages.

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Talking points: 

  • Australia's remarkable achievement - and this triumph in comparison to their previous World Cup wins
  • Rohit Sharma's approach at the start of the innings
  • Virat Kohli and the ability to strike at six an over on any pitch
  • The slowdown in the middle overs against fine Australian bowling
  • Cummins, Hazlewood and their brilliant variations
  • Shami opening the bowling instead of Siraj
  • Bumrah's beauty to dismiss Steve Smith
  • Travis Head's unforgettable assault

Participants:

Siddhartha Vaidyanathan (@sidvee)

Mahesh Sethuraman (@cornerd)

Ashoka (@ABVan)

Kartikeya Date (@cricketingview) | Substack | ESPNcricinfo

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Related:

  • Great final caps Australia's greatest year - Kartikeya Date - Cricketingview
  • Watch out for Shami when he's running in like a horse - Bharat Arun - ESPNcricinfo
  • Advance Australia, inevitably - Osman Samiuddin - ESPNcricinfo
  • Krishnamachari Srikkanth's analysis of the final - YouTube
  • Buy War Minus the Shooting by Mike Marqusee - Amazon
  • War Minus the Shooting - Revisiting the 1996 World Cup through a classic book - 81allout podcast
  • Buy Cricket Beyond the Bazaar by Mike Coward - Amazon



Nov 20, 202301:13:28
Maxwell madness, India's juggernaut, and a World Cup for Test bowlers

Maxwell madness, India's juggernaut, and a World Cup for Test bowlers

We review two weeks of the World Cup - and chat about Maxwell, Shami, Siraj, Omarzai, Williamson, Shreyas, and much more.
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Talking points:

Maxwell's freakish 201*
How well did Afghanistan bowl to Maxwell?
The curious case of Australia's batting in this World Cup
Are Afghanistan in the same phase that India were in the 1990s?
India's bowling attack - the finest quintet for these conditions?
Rohit and Kohli - taking chances v taking no chances
Are India due a bad day? Or will they finish the World Cup unbeaten?
New Zealand's NRR and the connection with how efficiently they are built
South Africa's conundrum - Rabada or Shamsi?
Angelo Mathews and the moment the Nagin rivalry peaked

Participants:
Siddhartha Vaidyanathan (@sidvee)
Mahesh Sethuraman (@cornerd)
Ashoka (@ABVan)
Kartikeya Date (@cricketingview) | Substack | ESPNcricinfo
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Related:

Buy War Minus the Shooting by Mike Marqusee - Amazon
War Minus the Shooting - Revisiting the 1996 World Cup through a classic book - 81allout podcast
Buy Cricket Beyond the Bazaar by Mike Coward - Amazon

Nov 13, 202301:13:43
If Bumrah doesn't get you, then Shami must

If Bumrah doesn't get you, then Shami must

We review the India v England match in Lucknow - and chat about the other themes emerging in the World Cup. 

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Talking points: 

  • The brutal simplicity of Mohammad Shami
  • Jasprit Bumrah: the bowler with the joystick
  • Rohit Sharma: the ultimate problem-solver
  • England's awful batting slump
  • Joe Root lbw Bumrah 0
  • Ben Stokes - reckless or calculated?
  • Pakistan's problem with no big hitting and no quality spin
  • New Zealand losing with respectability 
  • The furore over umpire's call
  • Bangladesh's forgettable World Cup campaign


    Participants:

    Siddhartha Vaidyanathan (@sidvee)

    Mahesh Sethuraman (@cornerd

    Ashoka (@ABVan)

    Kartikeya Date (@cricketingview) | Substack | ESPNcricinfo

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    Related:

    • World Cup weekly review - Kartikeya Date - Cricktingview Substack
    • This is Mohammad Shami's World Cup - Andrew Fidel Fernando - ESPNcricinfo
    • Sky Sports Cricket podcast - Nasser Hussain and Eoin Morgan dissect England's loss - Spotify
    • Wasay & Iffi - YouTube
    • Buy War Minus the Shooting by Mike Marqusee - Amazon
    • War Minus the Shooting - Revisiting the 1996 World Cup through a classic book - 81allout podcast
    • Buy Cricket Beyond the Bazaar by Mike Coward - Amazon
Oct 31, 202301:07:49
Who will go after India's bowlers? New Zealand try but fall short

Who will go after India's bowlers? New Zealand try but fall short

We review the India v New Zealand match in Dharamshala - and chat about the other themes as the World Cup nears its halfway stage. We also pay our heartfelt tribute to one of India's greatest cricketers: Bishan Bedi. 

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Talking points: 

  • The poetry of Bishan Bedi - and what he meant to a generation of fans
  • New Zealand running India close in Dharamshala 
  • Daryl Mitchell and Rachin Ravindra trying to hit Kuleep out of the attack
  • Jadeja's discomforting pace - and his ability to calibrate it so finely
  • Rohit and Gill taking their chances against a quality opening spell
  • Kohli's quest for a century - and the needless uproar around it
  • Afghanistan and Netherlands showing their class
  • Why aren't teams looking to limit the damage with NRR?
  • Will Australia sneak into the semi-finals?
  • Will England's batters finally fire?
  • Who will go after India's bowlers? New Zealand try but fall short? 

Participants:

Siddhartha Vaidyanathan (@sidvee)

Ashoka (@ABVan)

Kartikeya Date (@cricketingview) | Substack | ESPNcricinfo

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Related:

  • Buy War Minus the Shooting by Mike Marqusee - Amazon
  • War Minus the Shooting - Revisiting the 1996 World Cup through a classic book - 81allout podcast
  • Buy Cricket Beyond the Bazaar by Mike Coward - Amazon

Oct 24, 202359:20
A bowling attack for all seasons: India v Pakistan review

A bowling attack for all seasons: India v Pakistan review

We review the India v Pakistan match in Ahmedabad - and chat about the other themes developing in this World Cup.

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Talking points: 

  • India's enviable bowling attack for the conditions
  • Jasprit Bumrah - the magician
  • Kuldeep and Jadeja keeping Pakistan quiet
  • Siraj and the cross-seam attack
  • Rohit Sharma's evolution as an ODI batter
  • Shreyas Iyer's approach to playing spin
  • The joy of the Australian collapse
  • New Zealand's deceptive dominance in the early stages of the World Cup

Participants:

Siddhartha Vaidyanathan (@sidvee)

Ashoka (@ABVan)

Mahesh Sethuraman (@cornerd)

Kartikeya Date (@cricketingview) | Substack | ESPNcricinfo

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Oct 16, 202301:04:03
India spin to victory in Chennai challenge

India spin to victory in Chennai challenge

We review the India v Australia match in Chennai - a tense contest that India won by six wickets.

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Talking points: 

  • India's threat with their seamers as well as spinners
  • How this World Cup is rewarding Test-quality spinners
  • Australia's lack of depth in the spin department
  • Pat Cummins' problem at first-change
  • The Kohli-Rahul partnership
  • Bangladesh, South Africa, New Zealand, and India - the early favorites
  • How is 2 for 3 different from 80 for 3 when chasing 200?

Participants:

Siddhartha Vaidyanathan (@sidvee)

Ashoka (@ABVan)

Mahesh Sethuraman (@cornerd)

Kartikeya Date (@cricketingview) | Substack | ESPNcricinfo

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Oct 10, 202301:04:51
It's time for the big one: 2023 World Cup preview
Oct 02, 202301:03:38
A generational triumph: revisiting the 2011 World Cup

A generational triumph: revisiting the 2011 World Cup

We rewind to the 2011 World Cup that was jointly hosted by India, Sri Lanka, and Bangladesh - and talk about ODI cricket back then, the bowler-friendly nature of many games, the big upsets, the nail-biting finishes, and a cathartic moment for India - and a generation that had never knew what it meant to win a World Cup. 

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Talking Points:

  • The roundabout connection between the hosts of the 2011 World Cup and India taking part in the 2007 World T20
  • How India had turned into a feisty ODI side leading up to the World Cup
  • The close ODI series in South Africa before the World Cup
  • Sehwag and Kohli trouncing Bangladesh in the opening game
  • The pulsating tie against England in Bangalore
  • Australia's first loss in a World Cup since 1999 - against Pakistan
  • Steyn leading South Africa to a thrilling win in Nagpur
  • Sri Lanka thriving in their home conditions - throttling the opponents
  • Sri Lanka's thumping of England in the quarter-final - and echoes of 1996
  • India's bowling attack - dealing in cutters, slower ones and knuckle-balls
  • An unforgettable night at the Motera - when India overcame Australia
  • The hype before Mohali - and the eventual anti-climax of India v Pakistan
  • Mahela's silken grace in the final - an innings for the gods
  • The riveting partnership between Gambhir and Kohli  
  • Dhoni... finishes off in style

Participants:

Siddhartha Vaidyanathan (@sidvee)

DP Prashant (@prashantdptweet)

Ashoka (@ABVan)

Mahesh Sethuraman (@cornerd)

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Related:

  • Previous 81allout episodes on World Cups - 1987, 1992, 1996, 1999, 2003
  • On Board Test, Trial, and Triumph: My Years in BCCI - Ratnakar Shetty - Amazon
  • The Test of My Life: From Cricket to Cancer and Back - Yuvraj Singh - Amazon
  • 'I wanted to hug him and hit him at the same time till he confirmed we'd won the World Cup' - India's players look back on their triumph - The Cricket Monthly 
  • BJP's Control of Cricket in India - Sharda Ugra - Caravan
  • Kevin O'Brien's record century against England - ICC - YouTube
  • War Minus the Shooting - Revisiting the 1996 World Cup through a classic book - 81allout podcast
Sep 21, 202301:43:23
Impact of Powerplay rules on the cricketing contest in ODIs

Impact of Powerplay rules on the cricketing contest in ODIs

One of the themes in our episode on team selection was how the change in playing conditions of ODIs had made selection hard. We dialed in on how the change in Powerplay rules, along with the two new balls at both ends, has reshaped in the cricketing contest in ODIs and thereby reshaped the way teams are being selected.


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Talking Points:

  • How profound has the impact of the ODI Powerplay rules been since 2015?
  • Is there clear evidence that introduction of two new balls at both ends has skewed the contest more in batters' favour?
  • Has the elimination of the middle overs stalemate resulted in a diminishing role for part-time bowlers?
  • How relevant are the middle-order accumulators since the new Powerplay rules came into being?
  • Are teams fielding deeper bowling attacks than they did in the past?
  • Is there scope for touch players under the new order?
  • How have different teams responded to the change in Powerplay rules over the years?
  • Given the competitive nature of teams in this format, can there be an overwhelming favourite at this World Cup?
  • Has the elimination of stalemate resulted in bowlers attacking more in the middle overs or are batters scoring more runs at a faster clip? Can both be true?
  • Has the Powerplay rule change enhanced the parity between bat and ball. Or has it diminished it?

Participants:

Kartikeya Date (@cricketingview) | Substack | ESPNcricinfo page

Ashoka (@ABVan)

Mahesh Sethuraman (@cornerd)

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Rule  changes in ODI cricket over the years - Lalith Kalidas and VS Aravind - Sportstar

How to watch ODI cricket - Kartikeya Date - Cricketingview

How the ODI rule changes have affected run-scoring - S Rajesh - ESPNcricinfo

What we talk about when we talk about selection - 81allout podcast

Sep 12, 202301:16:16
What we talk about when we talk about selection

What we talk about when we talk about selection

The crew chats about the idea of selecting a cricket team, and debates how one can have a meaningful conversation about an inherently unfair process. Should selectors be more transparent about the reasoning behind their choices? Is there a process by which we can judge a good selection? And how can anyone justify the selection of the Indian team when anything less than a victory in a global tournament (or marquee Test series) is deemed a failure? 


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Talking Points:

  • How does one have a meaningful debate about selection? 
  • Does the selection (or non-selection) of one player have a big impact on results? 
  • Will it help us understand the process better if selectors explain the rationale for their choices?
  • What was the cricketing logic behind Vijay Shankar's selection for the 2019 World Cup? 
  • What are selectors looking for when they earmark a player as an India prospect?
  • Is there anything that can be termed an 'outrageous selection' ?
  • Does Sarfaraz Khan know why he is not being picked for India? Does it matter?
  • Are selection debates essentially about 'who are the 11 players I like the most'?
  • Pre 2011, should Yuvraj and Raina played more Tests than Badrinath and Rohit?
  • The difference between Karn Sharma over Ashwin, Shardul over Ashwin, and Jadeja over Ashwin
  • Is Shardul Thakur an extraordinary Test selection - or merely a lucky one?


Participants:

Siddhartha Vaidyanathan (@sidvee)

Mahesh Sethuraman (@cornerd)

Kartikeya Date (@cricketingview) | Substack | ESPNcricinfo page

Ashoka (@ABVan)

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Aug 23, 202301:20:03
Australia resist England's bowling and Bazball: Ashes 2023 review

Australia resist England's bowling and Bazball: Ashes 2023 review

We review the recently concluded five-Test series between England and Australia that ended 2-2 - with Australia retaining the Ashes. It was a series defined by England's 'Bazball' approach to batting - though that undersells how well Australia's batters resisted English bowling and how well Australia bowled in largely batting-friendly conditions.

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Talking Points:

  • A neutral view of the Ashes - and how it is hard to pick a team to support
  • The limits of Bazball - and why England's recent success stems from their bowling depth
  •  Australia's bowlers adjusting to the flat pitches and England's risk-taking
  • Why did England not want to prepare seamer-friendly pitches at home and capitalise on their big strength?
  • Stokes v Starc on the final morning at Lord's
  • The cult of Bazball - and how it fits in well with the English cricket establishment's exceptionalism
  • Mark Wood's pace and Nathan Lyon's absence
  • The effect of Bazball on England's bowling attack
  • Stuart Broad's cinematic goodbye
  •  England's chances in the five-Test series in India next year


Participants:

Siddhartha Vaidyanathan (@sidvee)

Mahesh Sethuraman (@cornerd)

Kartikeya Date (@cricketingview) | Substack | ESPNcricinfo page

Ashoka (@ABVan)

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Related:

  • Why did Bazball fail to regain the Ashes - Kartikeya Date - Cricketingview Substack
  • Stokes and McCullum want to save Test cricket but we must look beyond Big Three - Jonathan Liew - Guardian
  • England 'wanted to pick Wood' but settle for Tongue in all-seam attack - Matt Roller - ESPNcricinfo
  •  Bazball: a cult of bruised masculinity where you win even if you lose - Barney Ronay - Guardian
  • Mark Wood and the primal theatre of pure pace - Ben Gardner - Wisden
Aug 05, 202301:25:15
'Lifeless' pitch, lively Test: West Indies v India, 2nd Test review

'Lifeless' pitch, lively Test: West Indies v India, 2nd Test review

We review the second Test between West Indies and India at Port-of-Spain, which was rained off when India needed 8 wickets to wrap up the win. It meant India won their sixth series in West Indies and continued their dominance when touring the Caribbean. 

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Talking Points:

  • The problem with gauging the quality of a Test based on crowds and pitches
  • Does Test cricket have to conform to a template?
  • Mohammad Siraj's terrific spells
  • West Indies' curious decision to field first on a benign pitch
  • Virat Kohli's near-flawless hundred
  • Ashwin and Jadeja tightening the screws on Day 3
  • Mukesh Kumar's debut - and India's transition over the next few years
  • West Indies' improved batting performance 
  • The challenge for India's bowlers in tougher conditions

Participants:

Siddhartha Vaidyanathan (@sidvee)

Mahesh Sethuraman (@cornerd)

Kartikeya Date (@cricketingview) | Substack | ESPNcricinfo page

Ashoka (@ABVan)

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Related:

  • Mohammad Siraj takes 5 for 60 - Windies Cricket - YouTube
  • Fazeer Mohammed reviews the second Test - SportsMax TV - YouTube
  • Let West Indian cricketers play in first-class cricket in India - Deep Dasgupta - ESPNcricinfo
  • When India collapsed for 81 all out - Windies Cricket - YouTube
  • How West Indies became a fast bowling paradise again - Sidharth Monga - ESPNcricinfo
Jul 27, 202301:06:13
Ashwin and Co blow West Indies away: West Indies v India, 1st Test review

Ashwin and Co blow West Indies away: West Indies v India, 1st Test review

We review the first Test between West Indies and India at Dominica - which saw a dominant Indian side complete a big win. The conditions were perfectly suited to India's spinners – and gave Ashwin the chance to show his range. 

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Talking Points:

  • A 'perfect storm' for West Indies on a pitch favouring spinners
  • The media obsession with the 'death of Test cricket' 
  • Ashwin's 12-wicket haul on his return to the side
  • Ashwin and Jadeja's deadliness: control + variations + drift + turn
  • Cornwall's economical action with few moving parts
  • The challenge when facing Ashwin when he is bowling round the wicket
  • The power of Jadeja's action - repeatability 
  • Jaiswal's debut hundred - and why the India A system is so valuable
  • Alick Athanaze's assurance against spin
  • India's transition - and the case for Ishant and Saha
  • Multi-format players and the future of Tests

Participants:

Siddhartha Vaidyanathan (@sidvee)

Mahesh Sethuraman (@cornerd)

Kartikeya Date (@cricketingview) | Substack | ESPNcricinfo page

Ashoka (@ABVan)

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Related:

  • Ashwin remains India's constant in the face of constant change - Karthik Krishnaswamy - ESPNcricinfo
  • Ashwin's first innings spell - West Indies Cricket Board - YouTube
  • Caribbean Cricket Podcast review of the Test - YouTube
  • Bumrah and Co. lead the rout - 81allout review of India's Test series v West Indies in 2019
Jul 17, 202301:22:20
To watch cricket at the ground or on TV? It's complicated

To watch cricket at the ground or on TV? It's complicated

Where is cricket best enjoyed? Live at the stadium or on a screen many miles away? What do these experiences teach us and what really are we watching when we take in a game? The 81allout crew discuss. 


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Talking Points:

  • The challenges (and privilege required) to access a cricket ground
  • The ordeal of watching a game in an Indian stadium
  • The improved quality of television coverage that takes you close to the action
  • The complications of a televised game that is carefully directed and packaged
  • The distractions during a broadcast: advertisements, crowd shots, sponsor logos
  • Experiencing the conditions at the ground and understanding flight and length
  • The appreciation to be gained from watching the entire field of play
  • The democratic nature of TV - and how it introduces the game to new fans
  • The influence of commentary on one's interpretation of the game


Participants:

Siddhartha Vaidyanathan (@sidvee)

Mahesh Sethuraman (@cornerd)

Kartikeya Date (@cricketingview)

Ashoka (@ABVan)

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  • ‘A TV producer needs to catch the pulse of where the game is going’ – Ajesh Ramachandran - 81allout podcast
  • ‘In some ways, a TV director plays God’ – Hemant Buch - 81allout podcast
  • What about the fans? BCCI could have avoided the Dharamsala mess - Karthik Krishnaswamy - ESPNcricinfo
  • Why do spectators get a raw deal - Gideon Haigh - ESPNcricinfo
  • Fly Lara Fly - Rahul Bhattacharya - The Cricket Monthly
  • A handy rule to have in sports - Osman Samiuddin - The National
Jul 10, 202301:31:45
The quest for identity and belonging: through the theatre of cricket

The quest for identity and belonging: through the theatre of cricket

We speak to British playwright Maatin about his play Duck, which looks at the cricketing events of 2005 through the prism of a 15-year-old boy in a public school in London.

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What the play is about:

It’s the summer of 2005, and Ismail – ‘Smiley’ to his friends – is about to become the youngest-ever player in his elite public school’s First XI cricket team. He sets his sights on immortality – breaking the school batting record and getting his name into Wisden. But at the start of the season, new coach Mr. Eagles takes a particular dislike to him, threatening to derail Ismail’s historic moment. Worse still, no one seems to get what he’s going through. Set during England’s famous Ashes victory and the events of 7/7, Ismail discovers that cricket might not be able to take care of everything as it once did.


Talking Points:

  • The impetus to write the play and how closely it resembles Maatin's childhood
  • The challenges of being an outsider in the British public school system
  • The memories of the 2005 Ashes when seen along with the 7/7 bombings
  • Azim Rafiq's testimony and what it meant for minorities in English cricket
  • The burden of needing to be a 'good immigrant' in England
  • The obviously visible Muslims who have been integral to England's recent rise
  • Moeen Ali and Adil Rashid: what wearing their faith on their sleeves has meant
  • The backlash Moeen got when he wore an armband in support of Palestine
  • The infamous 'Tebbit Test' that questioned people's loyalty to their country
  • The complexities around fandom - and how it is hard to explain one's support
  • How easy it is to fall in love with the game - and also fall out of love with it


Participants:

Maatin (@maatin)

Siddhartha Vaidyanathan (@sidvee)

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Jun 27, 202301:19:10
All-round depth puts Australia on top of the Test world

All-round depth puts Australia on top of the Test world

We review the World Test Championship final between Australia and India at The Oval - which ended with a 209-run win and the Test mace for Australia. It was India's second consecutive loss in the WTC final - and offered hints that a terrific side is likely past its peak. 

Talking Points:

  • Australia's greater depth in bowling
  • Yet another missed opportunity for this Indian side to win a world title
  • The height advantage - how the 'release points' could have made a difference
  • The magnificent Mr Smith
  • Did India misread the conditions on Day 1?
  • Gill and Pujara leaving balls that hit the stumps
  • Ashwin v Jadeja; Ashwin v Shardul; Ashwin v Umesh - the selection riddle
  • Lyon's craft to get Jadeja and Rohit out
  • Rahane's joyous return to Tests
  • What next for this Indian bowling attack?
  • The Rahul Dravid question

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Participants:

Siddhartha Vaidyanathan (@sidvee)

Prashant DP (@prashantdptweet) | Prashant's cricket posts on Medium

Kartikeya Date (@cricketingview) | Kartikeya's Substack

Ashoka (@ABVan)

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  • The story of the WTC final - Kartikeya Date - Cricketingview
  • Boland and Cummins unleash on India - Osman Samiuddin - ESPNcricinfo
  • Beware, England: Steve Smith looks like a batting immortal again - Geoff Lemon - Guardian
  • Ajinkya Rahane, India's quiet hero - Nagraj Gollapudi - ESPNcricinfo
  • Ashwin's preparation list for the WTC final - Venkata Krishna - Indian Express
Jun 14, 202301:36:09
So much cricket, so little time: how do journalists make sense of the game

So much cricket, so little time: how do journalists make sense of the game

We chat with ESPNcricinfo assistant editor Karthik Krishnaswamy and freelance writer Saurabh Somani on making sense of cricket in these times of excess. With leagues mushrooming around the world, and multiple formats to track, can journalists be expected to have a holistic view of the game?

Talking Points:

  • The evolution of cricket - and pressures on journalists - over the last decade
  • The near-impossible task of watching cricket across formats and geographies
  • The difficulty of 'connecting the dots' from age-group to international cricket
  • The need to change one's writing to suit the rhythm of the format
  • Making peace with not watching most of the cricket that is being televised
  • The lack of bandwidth to take in the big picture
  • The future of one-dayers and how its extinction could have far-reaching effects
  • A future where journalists will need to pick formats to cover
  • Balancing the demands of the market with the demands of journalism
  • The future of cricket coverage with advances in video and Artificial Intelligence


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Participants:

Karthik Krishnaswamy (@the_kk)

Saurabh Somani (@saurabh_42)

Siddhartha Vaidyanathan (@sidvee)

Mahesh Sethuraman (@cornerd)

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  • Karthik Krishnaswamy's articles on ESPNcricinfo
  • 'Hard for journalists today to probe serious issues in cricket' - Pradeep Magazine  - 81allout podcast
  • A Cop in Cricket - Neeraj Kumar - Amazon
  • Will IPL franchise owners swallow international cricket whole? - Osman Samiuddin - ESPNcricinfo
  • Is there too much cricket? - Cameron Pononsby - Wisden
  • Cricket 2.0: Inside the T20 Revolution - Tim Wigmore and Freddie Wilde - Amazon
  • Hitting against the Spin - Nathan Leamon and Ben Jones - Amazon
  • IPL, basketball and the tamasha paradox - Siddhartha Vaidyanathan - sidveeblogs
Jun 01, 202301:30:26
Shades of fandom: how our opinions about cricketers change over time

Shades of fandom: how our opinions about cricketers change over time

Some cricketers we love at first sight; some, we take time to appreciate; others, we do not understand the fuss; and still others are quick to get under our skins. Often, we review our views over time - and often surprise ourselves by changing our opinions about cricketers. 

Kapil Dev, Ishant Sharma, Ravi Shastri, Ian Chappell, Rahul Dravid, Sachin Tendulkar, Mohammad Azharuddin, and Steve Waugh - all formidable cricketers. All of whom we have changed our minds over at various stages. And all of whom we focus on in this episode - to understand the evolution of our fandom.


Talking Points:

  • What Kapil Dev chasing Hadlee's record meant for many young fans
  • The staggering image of Kapil being a combination of Bumrah and Pant
  • Ishant Sharma's arrival in Test cricket - and the 'trolling' years that followed
  • Post-2016 Ishant - the most improved Indian cricketer this decade?
  • The Ravi Shastri stereotypes - and how it is easy to be trapped by all of them
  • The legendary forthrightness of Ian Chappell
  • Rahul Dravid's purple patch - and why that record needs to be revisited
  • Mohammad Azharuddin: a glorious rise, an inglorious fall
  • Steve Waugh and the danger of hyping 'mental disintegration' 
  • Sachin Tendulkar - the slow journey from hero to mortal


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Participants:

Siddhartha Vaidyanathan (@sidvee)

Prashant DP (@prashantdptweet) | Prashant's cricket posts on Medium

Mahesh Sethuraman (@cornerd)

Ashoka (@ABVan)

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  • Talking fandom: love, loyalty, and a sense of belonging - 81allout podcast
  • That special whistle: the phenomenon called CSK - 81allout podcast
  • Conversation with veteran journalist Pradeep Magazine - 81allout podcast
  • Whatever happened to Ravi Shastri 1.0 - Sharda Ugra - ESPNcricinfo
  • History’s witness: The IPL final, as Ravi Shastri saw it - Siddhartha Vaidyanathan - Yahoo Cricket
  • Ishant Sharma interview with Gaurav Kapoor - Breakfast with Champions - YouTube
  • Ian Chappell on captaincy and much more - 81allout podcast
  • The inscrutable craftsman - Rohit Brijnath - ESPNcricinfo
  • Like father, like son - Siddhartha Vaidyanathan - ESPNcricinfo
  • Out of my Comfort Zone - Steve Waugh autobiography - Amazon
  • Captain courageous, like Tendulkar, vs Rihanna - Mukul Kesavan - NDTV
May 22, 202301:57:23
Hard for journalists today to probe serious issues in cricket - Pradeep Magazine interview

Hard for journalists today to probe serious issues in cricket - Pradeep Magazine interview

We talk to the veteran journalist and author - Pradeep Magazine.

We discuss the major themes of his books - Not Quite Cricket and Not Just Cricket – and talk about the lessons from the match-fixing epidemic in the late 1990s and how the player-journalist relationship has altered over time. Journalists of the 1990s had enough access to the inner circle to get an inkling of the shadiness, says Magazine, but journalists of today are sadly in the dark.

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Talking Points:

  • A chance-meeting with a bookie in 1997 that opened up the world of fixing
  • Writing about match-fixing before the big story broke
  • Interviewing Sachin Tendulkar about match-fixing in 1997
  • Kapil Dev accusing his players of being distracted by money in 1983
  • Magazine's relationship with Kapil Dev over time - from fan to critique
  • The two sides of Mohammad Azharuddin and how it was hard to separate both
  • The problem for investigative journalists today cut off from the inner circle
  • A new book that casts light on the corruption that could engulf the game
  • The nexus of politics and cricket - and propaganda taking over the game

Participants:

Pradeep Magazine (@pradeepmagazine)

Siddhartha Vaidyanathan (@sidvee)

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  • Pradeep Magazine's books - Not Quite Cricket and Not Just Cricket
  • Neeraj Kumar's book - A Cop in Cricket
  • A T20 tournament that wasn't - how fixers fabricated the UvaT20 League - Guardian
  • It is far more than a game, this cricket - Conversation between Pradeep Magazine and Rahul Bhattacharya - Kolkata Literary Meet - YouTube
  • With sports becoming so commercialized, sports journalism has become more challenging: Pradeep Magazine - Times of India
May 10, 202301:20:14
‘There are things more important than taking wickets and scoring runs’ - Henry Olonga interview

‘There are things more important than taking wickets and scoring runs’ - Henry Olonga interview

We talk to the former Zimbabwe fast bowler - and the first black cricketer to represent his country - Henry Olonga.

We focus on the book that Olonga published in 2010 - Blood, Sweat, and Treason - and revisit the highs and lows of his career. We also look back on Olonga's and Andy Flower's iconic black armband protest at the 2003 World Cup, and how it would change his life forever.


Talking Points:

  • Growing up in Zimbabwe in the 1980s - and recognizing his cricketing potential
  • A bittersweet Test debut against Pakistan- when he was called for chucking
  • The purple patch - beating India and Pakistan in Test series, and shining in the 1999 World Cup
  • The tumultuous early 2000s - within the team and for the country as a whole
  • The racial tension  in the backdrop of unrest over Zimbabwe's land reforms
  • The push for 'targets' to have more black players and administrators
  • The political build-up to the 2003 World Cup - and the decision to speak out
  • How Olonga's life turned upside down in a matter of a few weeks
  • The divine intervention in the Zimbabwe v Pakistan league match in Bulawayo
  • Escaping to England thanks to some generous benefactors
  • Writing the book - and ruminating on the value of speaking one's mind


Participants:

Henry Olonga (Twitter: @henryolonga)

Siddhartha Vaidyanathan (@sidvee)

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Apr 19, 202302:31:56
The quirks and challenges of covering Bangladesh cricket: interview with journalist Mohammad Isam

The quirks and challenges of covering Bangladesh cricket: interview with journalist Mohammad Isam

We talk to ESPNcricinfo's Bangladesh correspondent Mohammad Isam on his decade-long career covering cricket and his recent anthology On the Tigers Trail.

Isam touches on the culture of cricket media in Bangladesh and offers a number of personal nuggets  - bowling to Kevin Pietersen in the nets, talking to Javed Omar about a 'Hate to Love' piece, prompting a Mohammad Ashraful breakdown, following Mashrafe Mortaza on his election trail... and much more. 

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Talking Points:

  • The culture of cricket coverage in Bangladesh
  • The journey from being a club cricketer to a journalist
  • Hearing of Mustafizur Rahman's potential - and helping his rise
  • Bowling to Kevin Pietersen in the Dhaka nets in 2010
  • The hopes invested in Mohammad Ashraful, and the eventual disappointment
  • The Dhaka Premier League and its role in the cricketing fabric of Bangladesh
  • The cottage industry of left-arm spinners in Bangladesh
  • The journalist-player relationship and retaining one's journalistic objectivity
  •  The brutal honesty of Mashrafe Mortaza
  • The fateful day in Christchurch in 2019: when the team escaped from terrorists

Participants:

Mohammad Isam (@isam84)

Siddhartha Vaidyanathan (@sidvee)

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Apr 12, 202301:21:58
'I was helping players write the book they wouldn't otherwise write' - Gideon Haigh on The Summer Game

'I was helping players write the book they wouldn't otherwise write' - Gideon Haigh on The Summer Game

We talk to journalist and historian Gideon Haigh about The Summer Game - his classic book recently republished by 81allout Publishing.

Gideon talks about the largely forgotten 1950s and '60s, and fascinating stories he heard from many who nourished the game – at a time when the financial rewards were minimal and when the game itself saw some fallow times.

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Talking Points:

  • The idea for The Summer Game - an outgrowing from The Cricket War
  • How post-war period opened up Australian cricket to the rest of the world
  • The tragic end to Ian Meckiff's career - and what he recalled of it many years on
  • Robert Menzies' role in Australian cricket through his primership
  • The discontent of the '50s and '60s setting the stage for World Series Cricket
  • The poignant story of Pat Crawford - who disappeared from the face of cricket
  • The staggering popularity of the West Indies tourists in 1960-61
  • Richie Benaud's punctilious image management - and his precise writing
  • The ebullient Benaud who ruffled feathers as a player and journalist
  • Neil Harvey's legacy in Australian cricket
  • Australia's tours to South Africa in the 1960s - and their attitude to discrimination
  • Bill Lawry's reaction to the news that he was dropped from the Australian side


Participants:

Gideon Haigh

Siddhartha Vaidyanathan (@sidvee)

Mahesh Sethuraman (@cornerd)


Books Discussed:

  • Gideon Haigh's books - gideonhaigh.com
  • Cricket War - Gideon Haigh - Amazon
  • Bowler non grata - Brydon Coverdale meets Ian Meckiff - The Cricket Monthly
  • The Lucky Country - Donald Horne - Amazon
  • Beyond a Boundary - CLR James - Amazon
  • The Summer of '49 - David Halberstam - Amazon
  • The Fifties - David Halberstam - Amazon
  • The Tale of Two Tests - Richie Benaud - Amazon

 

Apr 03, 202301:38:47
What we talk about when we talk about pressure

What we talk about when we talk about pressure

In episode 156 of the 81allout podcast we are joined by former India Test cricketer and Ranji Trophy colossus Abhinav Mukund - who has now turned into an astute analyst on TV. Abhinav is piqued by Kartikeya Date's latest article in ESPNcricinfo (Do India choke in high-profile ODIs) and shares his perspective on how a player approaches (and talks about pressure), and weighs in on the question: is pressure a good parameter to explain the result of a match?


 Talking Points:

  • The times when a player feels he is in the 'middle of a volcano'
  • How players talk about the game and their part in it
  • What players mean when they talk about 'pressure'
  • Does pressure affect performance in a sustained manner?
  • Talking about skill v talking about mental faculties
  • Is it fair for strangers to make assumptions about players' mental abilities?
  • The problem with attributing the result to mental strength/weaknesses
  • What happened to South Africa in the 2015 World Cup semi-final?
  • The value of finding a mindspace when 'nothing matters' 

Participants:

Abhinav Mukund (@mukundabhinav)

Siddhartha Vaidyanathan (@sidvee)

Kartikeya Date (@cricketingview)


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Mar 21, 202301:40:12
Match drawn, series won, final beckons: India v Australia, 4th Test review

Match drawn, series won, final beckons: India v Australia, 4th Test review

In episode 155 of the 81allout podcast we review the fourth and final Test between India and Australia in Ahmedabad. The two teams played out a high-scoring draw, which ensured India won their fourth consecutive series against Australia and set up a Test between the same two teams in the World Test Championship final in June.

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Talking Points:

  • The value of Axar Patel as a bowler and batter in this series
  • Has any Indian team had as much batting and bowling depth as this one?
  • The pitch laid out for the final Test - flat and slow
  • Australia's batters finishing off on a high note
  • Ashwin's masterful spell in the first innings
  • What Ashwin and Lyon do really really well
  • Virat Kohli's defensive flourishes
  • Will Kuhnemann play another Test?
  • The political event on day 1 - and the questions cricket fans need to ask

Participants:

Siddhartha Vaidyanathan (@sidvee)

Mahesh Sethuraman (@cornerd)

Kartikeya Date (@cricketingview)

Ashoka (ABVan)

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Mar 15, 202301:20:29
Lyon's triumph in pitched battle: India v Australia, 3rd Test review

Lyon's triumph in pitched battle: India v Australia, 3rd Test review

In episode 154 of the 81allout podcast we review the third Test between India and Australia in Indore. On a challenging wicket in Indore - which was subsequently classed as 'poor' by the ICC match referee - Australia pulled off a terrific nine-wicket win.

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Talking Points:

  • Did Australia do anything differently in this Test than in the previous two?
  • Jadeja's rare off-Test in recent times
  • India's collapse on the first morning - and all the pitch talk
  • Did the pitch rage enough? Was the match referee justified in rating it 'poor'?
  • The problem with variable bounce (as opposed to lateral movement)
  • Khawaja v Labuschagne: a contrast against spin
  • Nathan Lyon's masterful spell - from around the wicket, cramping the batters
  • Lyon's evolution as a spinner for Indian conditions - and his battle with Pujara
  • Pujara's half-century in the second innings - and the partnership with Shreyas

Participants:

Siddhartha Vaidyanathan (@sidvee)

Mahesh Sethuraman (@cornerd)

Kartikeya Date (@cricketingview)

Ashoka (ABVan)

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Related:

  • Chasing Wickets Instead Of Control - Kartikeya Date - A Cricketing View
  • The last grand battle between Pujara and Lyon - Kathik Krishnaswamy - ESPNcricinfo
  • Nathan Lyon proving to be Australia’s unglamorous linchpin in India - Geoff Lemon - Guardian


Mar 05, 202301:22:06
The playground as a theatre for social and political life: Ramachandra Guha interview

The playground as a theatre for social and political life: Ramachandra Guha interview

In episode 153 of the 81allout podcast we interview the award-winning author and historian - and one of modern India's most renowned biographers - Ramachandra Guha.

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Talking Points:

  • In search of the memories of India's first great cricketer - Palwankar Baloo
  • Does the Bombay school of batting begin with the remarkable P Vithal?
  • How the city of Bombay is a main character in Corner of a Foreign Field
  • The Parsee influence in the history of Indian cricket
  • CK Naydu's epochal 153 against the MCC team in 1926-27
  • The evolution of the game in post-independence India
  • Race, caste, religion, and nation - the fissures around Indian cricket
  • The India v Pakistan match in Manchester in 1999 - with their soldiers at war

Participants:

Ramachandra Guha (@ramguha)

Siddhartha Vaidyanathan (@sidvee)

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Books Discussed:

  • Corner of a Foreign Field - Ramachandra Guha - Amazon; Spin and Other Turns - Ramachandra Guha - Amazon; Cricket, Public Culture, and Making of Post-Colonial Calcutta - Souvik Naha - Cambridge University Press; A Stroke of Genius - Gideon Haigh - Amazon; On Warne - Gideon Haigh - Amazon; Beyond a Boundary - CLR James - Amazon; Cricket Country - Prashant Kidambi - Amazon; Pundits from Pakistan - Rahul Bhattacharya - Amazon; Fire in Babylon - Simon Lister - Amazon; Cricket: the game of life - Scyld Berry - Amazon; Late Cuts - Vic Marks - Amazon


Feb 25, 202301:25:59
Swept away in a session: India v Australia, 2nd Test review

Swept away in a session: India v Australia, 2nd Test review

In episode 152 of the podcast we review the second Test between India and Australia in Delhi. The match see-sawed for two days until Australia collapsed on the third morning - and India sealed a six-wicket win.

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Talking Points:

  • Australia's tactic to sweep against spinners on a pitch keeping low
  • Batting in India in the third innings - a most perilous task
  • The Smith sweep to Ashwin, and Labuschagne playing the ball off the pitch
  • Ashwin and Jadeja - and the subtle variation in lengths across innings
  • Could Australia have used their feet and lofted more in the second innings?
  • Ashwin's mesmeric spell on the first morning
  • Nathan Lyon's drift and turn from around the wicket
  • How the Axar-Ashwin partnership tilted the scales

Participants:

Siddhartha Vaidyanathan (@sidvee)

Mahesh Sethuraman (@cornerd)

Kartikeya Date (@cricketingview)

Ashoka (ABVan)

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Related:

  • Jadeja's seven-wicket haul - BCCI.tv video
  • If Jadeja doesn't get you, Ashwin must - 81allout podcast review of the 1st Test
  • R Ashwin and the story of a most magical over - Karthik Krishnaswamy - ESPNcricinfo
  • Ashwin-Jadeja combo a nightmare for any touring team to India - Dinesh Karthik - Cricbuzz
  • India get the better of Australia, one flick at a time - Karthik Krishnaswamy - ESPNcricinfo
  • The Plan: How Fletcher and Flower Transformed English Cricket - Steve James - Amazon
  • Batsmen could learn from the Hayden way - Andrew Ramsey - cricket.com.au
Feb 20, 202301:08:11
If Jadeja doesn't get you, Ashwin must: India v Australia, 1st Test review

If Jadeja doesn't get you, Ashwin must: India v Australia, 1st Test review

In episode 151 of the 81allout podcast we review the first Test between India and Australia in Nagpur. India outclassed Australia in all departments and their superior depth in both batting and bowling propelled them to an innings victory.

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Talking Points:

  • Rohit Sharma's exceptional ability to suss up the conditions and bat accordingly
  • Ravindra Jadeja's mesmeric control on the first morning
  • The outrage over the selective watering of the pitch
  • Which team doesn't doctor its pitches to give the home side an advantage?
  • The Smith-Labuschagne partnership on Day 1
  • Todd Murphy's impressive debut - speed, control, and accuracy
  • The Pujara sweep - and how rare it was for him to get out that way
  • Nathan Lyon's problem on slow Indian pitches
  • The Jadeja ointment - and the connection with Sandpaper-gate

Participants:

Siddhartha Vaidyanathan (@sidvee)

Mahesh Sethuraman (@cornerd)

Kartikeya Date (@cricketingview)

Ashoka (ABVan)

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Related:

  • Why have visiting bats stopped having big series in India? - Kartikeya Date - Cricketingview
  • What's happening with the Napur pitch - Venkata Krishna - Indian Express
  • India's cheat code: lower-order muscle - Karthik Krishnaswamy - ESPNcricinfo
  • Forget conspiracy theories and whingeing, there’s only one way to win in India - Mark Taylor - Sydney Morning Herald
  • Couch Talk 81 with Sunil Subramaniam - Subash Jayaraman - Couch Talks
  • Rohit's zen, Pujara sweeps, Murphy's five and Ravi's improvement - Jarrod Kimber - Jarrod Kimber's Sports Almanack
Feb 13, 202301:22:20
An India v Australia Test series. Here we go again...

An India v Australia Test series. Here we go again...

In episode 150 of the 81allout podcast we preview India's upcoming Test series against Australia - the latest chapter in a storied rivalry. Australia sure have the team to pull off a series win but the panel agrees that they will still need to be at their best to hand India their first home-series defeat in nearly a decade.

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Talking Points:

  • Australia's attitude towards cricket in India over the years: from apathy to obeisance
  • The role played by Allan Border, Steve Waugh, Mike Coward and a few others in embracing India and her passion for cricket
  • The 2017 India v Australia series, and the gripping Bangalore Test
  • Can Pat Cummins replicate Glenn McGrath's success in India?
  • The current Australian bowling attack v the 2004 attack that won in India
  • India's fast bowling potency in home conditions (even without Jasprit Bumrah)
  • Ashwin v Smith: a rivarly with a layer of deep technical insight
  • Are we about the see the new new Virat Kohli?
  • Can Australia's batters (especially the left-handers) tackle Ashwin?
  • The flexibility Jadeja offers this Indian line-up
  • Pant's absence and an opening for Axar to bolster the batting
  • Our wishes for the pitches in this series: green tops and raging turners

Participants:

Siddhartha Vaidyanathan (@sidvee)

Mahesh Sethuraman (@cornerd)

Kartikeya Date (@cricketingview)

Ashoka (ABVan)

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Related:

  • When Australia conquered the Final Frontier - 81allout podcast rewinds to 2004
  • ‘It struck me that you can score 574, declare twice, and still lose a Test’ – Allan Border - 81allout podcast
  • How Smith's grip is linked to tennis - Daniel Brettig - Sydney Morning Herald
  • R Ashwin: 'I've always been good at assessing batsmen, but now I think I've taken it to another level' - Sidharth Monga interview - The Cricket Monthly
  • Umesh Yadav's spell v Kerala in Krishnagiri - Hotstar (access on in India)
  • How will Smith and Labuschagne bat against Ashwin and Co.? - Sridharan Sriram column - Indian Express 
Feb 06, 202301:32:44
When Australia conquered the Final Frontier

When Australia conquered the Final Frontier

In the latest episode of the podcast we look back on Australia's tour to India in 2004-05 - when Adam Gilchrist led the visitors to their first series win in India in 35 years. Australia have won just one Test in India since - and will hoping to improve that record in the upcoming four-Test series.

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Talking Points:

  • How 2004 was in many ways the sequel to 2001
  • If McGrath won't get you, Gillespie must
  • Shane Warne's finest hour in India
  • The emergence of Michael Clarke - and a special Bangalore hundred
  • Adam Gilchrist's measured brutality
  • Damien Martyn's expertise against spin
  • When Kumble rocked Australia on day 1 in Chennai
  • Virender Sehwag's unforgettable 155 - and the match that promised so much
  • A curious case of 'greenwicketitis' in Nagpur
  • Was Nagpur really an outlier pitch? Or was it just magnificent bowling?
  • The most exciting Test of that series - on a raging turning in Mumbai
  • Murali Kartik's moment, and the liberating Tendulkar-Laxman partnership
  • Do the current Australian team have a bowling attack to win in India?

Participants:

Siddhartha Vaidyanathan (@sidvee)

Prashant DP (@prashantdptweet)

Mahesh Sethuraman (@cornerd)

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Related:

  • True colours - Adam Gilchrist - Amazon
  • The balls of the century - Shane Warne to VVS Laxman - Sharda Ugra - The Cricket Monthly
  • Anatomy of a classic - Virender Sehwag on his 155 in Chennai - ESPNcricinfo
  • Once upon a twinkle-toed debut - Siddhartha Vaidyanathan - ESPNcricinfo
  • Wisden Reports - Australia in India 2004-05 - ESPNcricinfo
  • John Wright's Indian Summers - Amazon
  • India lose 35-year-old home record - Sharda Ugra - India Today
  • Justin Langer chats with Gideon Haigh and Peter Lalor - Part 1, Part 2
Jan 30, 202301:54:10
Waiting to take off: the potential for women's cricket in India

Waiting to take off: the potential for women's cricket in India

In the latest episode of the podcast we chat with journalist Annesha Ghosh about the Indian Women cricket team - their journey in 2022 and how much there is to look forward to in 2023.

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Talking Points:

  • 2022: a momentous year for Indian women's cricket both on and off the field
  • Mithali Raj: colossus nonpareil
  • Jhulan Goswami: a torchbearer who inspired a generation
  • The physiological challenges for a woman to bowl fast
  • How Kolkata toasted Jhulan during her last match
  • The lack of transparency with the Indian selectors
  • Shikha Pandey's comeback - and her ingenious practice videos
  • India's march to Commonwealth Games final - and the eventual heartbreak
  • The sizzling Harmanpreet-Jemima partnership at the final
  • How does any team beat Australia? What is the secret sauce
  • The allround options in the Indian lower order
  • Deepti Sharma's running out Charlie Dean at the non-striker's end
  • The incredible potential of the women's IPL
  • The BCCI's historical apathy towards women's cricket

Participants:

Annesha Ghosh (@ghosh_annesha)

Siddhartha Vaidyanathan (@sidvee)

Ashoka (@ABVan)

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Related:

  • 2023 could be India Women’s all-at-once year, after everything, everywhere in 2022 - Annesha Ghosh - Moneycontrol
  • Jhulan Goswami: A swansong of Indian cricketer who inspired millions of women - Annesha Ghosh - BBC
  • The girl who took women's cricket to the next level - Annesha Ghosh - The Cricket Monthly
  • The Fire Burns Blue - Karunya Keshav and Sidhanta Patnaik - Amazon
  • Cameroon bowler Maeva Douma effects four mankads in two overs - Wisden
  • Why is there stigma involved in running out a non-striker? Because it's all about power - Sidharth Monga - ESPNcricinfo
  • Viacom 18 bags women's IPL media rights for $117 mln - Reuters
Jan 22, 202301:49:02
What we rant about when we rant about umpiring

What we rant about when we rant about umpiring

In the latest episode of the podcast we chat about the challenge of being a modern umpire - and how excess scrutiny and knee-jerk reactions from pundits have combined to create a toxic environment.

Talking Points:

  • The challenge for modern umpires - with ball-by-ball social media scrutiny
  • How TV replays can fool us into thinking that umpiring is an easy task
  • Has DRS accelerated the erosion of the umpire's authority?
  • The frequent grumbling around the soft-signal  - is it even needed?
  • The issue with Sachin Tendulkar's reservation about umpire's call
  • The value of umpiring judgement, and why the on-field umpire's decision is vital
  • Ben Stokes' misunderstanding of the soft-signal
  • Do umpires' performance change based on the match situation?
  • Will cricket go the way of American football with video replays?

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Participants:

Siddhartha Vaidyanathan (@sidvee)

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Ashoka (@ABVan)

Mahesh Sethuraman (@cornerd)

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Jan 10, 202301:22:51
India overcome Bangladesh's stern spin challenge: Test series review

India overcome Bangladesh's stern spin challenge: Test series review

In the latest episode of the podcast we discuss India's 2-0 win in the Test series in Bangladesh.

Talking Points:

  • India's close escape in the second Test in Mirpur
  • Are Kohli and Rahul going through a bad patch or are they on the wane?
  • Batting against spin with the new ball v old ball
  • The challenges of playing fastish finger spin in the DRS era
  • Axar Patel's deadly round-arm action - and why it is invaluable on these pitches
  • Where R Ashwin stands v Kapil Dev in the allrounder stakes
  • The non-selection of Kuldeep Yadav for the second Test - was it really shocking?

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Participants:

Siddhartha Vaidyanathan (@sidvee)

Kartikeya Date (@cricketingview)

Ashoka (@ABVan)

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  • Is the DRS a good thing? Yes if you're a fingerspinner, no if you're a left-hand batsman - Kartikeya Date - ESPNcricinfo
  • Training the Hawk-Eye on Axar Patel: Angular, Anomalous - Himanish Ganjoo - Substack
  • 'Phenomenal' Shreyas Iyer calms the panic down with assured batting - Sidharth Monga - ESPNcricinfo
  • All-rounder Ashwin, second only to Richard Hadlee, rescues India again - VS Aravind - Sportstar
  • Mehidy Hasan Miraz and Litton Das stride towards becoming Bangladesh's next batch of match-winners - Mohammad Isam - ESPNcricinfo
Dec 28, 202257:34
‘He bowled balls that could not have been bowled by anyone else in history’ - Gideon Haigh on Wasim Akram

‘He bowled balls that could not have been bowled by anyone else in history’ - Gideon Haigh on Wasim Akram

In the latest episode we talk to author and journalist Gideon Haigh about his recent collaboration with Wasim Akram on his memoir Sultan.

We talk about the process of writing the book and the challenges that Gideon had to overcome to ensure he told the story in Wasim's voice.

Talking Points:

  • The process Gideon followed and the contrast with On Warne
  • The conversations Gideon had with Imran, Dravid, Shastri, and plenty of others
  • Settling on a voice for the book - how people imagine Wasim will speak like
  • Wasim's ability to praise and slam his team-mates - often in the same paragraph
  • Wasim's evolving relationship with Waqar - their partnership and falling out
  • The physical and emotional hurdles Wasim had to overcome through his career
  • The challenge of writing the chapter on match-fixing
  • Was Wasim the greatest bowler of all time?
  • Revisiting the great spells via YouTube

Participants:

Gideon Haigh

Siddhartha Vaidyanathan (@sidvee)

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Related:

The wonder that was Waz - Gideon Haigh - ESPNcricinfo

'The match-fixing rumours were like a trauma... no one trusted each other' - Wasim Akram interview - Guardian

At 56, Wasim is turning his thoughts to his legacy - Osman Samiuddin - ESPNcricinfo

'He made you believe the impossible' - Gideon Haigh on Shane Warne - 81allout podcast

On Warne - Gideon Haigh - Amazon

The Unquiet Ones - Osman Samiuddin - Amazon

Pakistan in 1999: the allure, the magic, the heartbreak - 81allout podcast with Ahmer Naqvi and Hassan Cheema

Dec 19, 202201:06:32
Greatness across eras: measures, challenges, and fallacies

Greatness across eras: measures, challenges, and fallacies

In the latest episode of the podcast, we discuss the idea of greatness in cricket. What do we mean when we say a player is 'great', how does one compare across eras, and what are the pitfalls we fall into when discussing greatness.

Talking Points:

  • Greatness as a measurement of a player's performance against their peers
  • The habit of putting down one player as one elevates another
  • The need for a transcendent moment for a player to be anointed 'great'
  • The fallacy of the match-winning innings
  • Lillee v Cummins: the complexity of comparing two great bowlers
  • The power of nostalgia in talking about greatness - the Andy Roberts problem
  • Great batsmen in weak teams and great bowlers in strong teams
  • The problem with recency bias when judging greatness
  • Is this South African team better than the teams from the 1990s and 2000s?
  • The high benchmark for subcontinental players in foreign conditions

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Participants:

Siddhartha Vaidyanathan (@sidvee)

Mahesh Sethuraman (@cornerd)

Kartikeya Date (@cricketingview)

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Related:

  • The line of greatness - Siddhartha Vaidyanathan - The Cricket Monthly
  • Wisden 100 - Wikipedia
  • Who are the greatest T20 players of all - Kartikeya Date - ESPNcricinfo
  • Who are the best batsmen of each decade - Anantha Narayanan - ESPNcricinfo
  • The Richards standard for ODI batsmen - Kartikeya Date - ESPNcricinfo
  • A new measure for cricketing greatness - Andy Bull - Guardian
  • An all-time world Test XI, according to ICC rankings - Rupin Kale - Wisden
Dec 07, 202201:24:20
‘The first program I ever wrote was Cricinfo’ - Simon King

‘The first program I ever wrote was Cricinfo’ - Simon King

In the latest episode of the podcast we speak to two pioneers from the early days of the internet: Simon King, the founder of Cricinfo, and Vishal Misra, an early volunteer who was instrumental in the building of the database and streamlining live scoring.

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Talking Points:

  • The difficulty of getting cricket updates in the early 1990s
  • Chatrooms, IRC, and begging for score updates
  • The aggregation of cricket fans across North American universities
  • The idea for building a database that would store all cricket information
  • The early pioneers such as KS Rao and Murari Venkatraman
  • The evolution of the Cricinfo scorecard
  • Sending live updates from Malaysia, Kenya, and Bangladesh
  • Travis Basevi - the man who built a wonder-tool called statsguru
  • Vishal's memories from the 1996 World Cup - when live scoring took off
  • The day cricinfo's server crashed in Oregon

Participants:

Siddhartha Vaidyanathan (@sidvee)

Simon King

Vishal Misra (@vishalmisra)

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Related:

  • ESPNcricinfo at 20 years - ESPNcricinfo
  • One night in 1996 - Vishal Misra - ESPNcricinfo
  • The wizard Elz - Siddhartha Vaidyanathan - ESPNcricinfo
  • Travis Basevi, my friend who changed the way cricket was consumed - Vishal Misra - ESPNcricinfo
  • Travis Basevi: the Statsguru visionary who transformed cricket - Tanya Aldred - Guardian
  • Cricinfo - How it all began - Rohan Chandran
  • A bot called Cricinfo - Badri Sheshadri - ESPNcricinfo
  • The Cricinfo story -  Hosted by Gautam Govitrikar - YouTube
Nov 28, 202201:14:08
England too good in a tournament of upsets: T20 World Cup review

England too good in a tournament of upsets: T20 World Cup review

In the latest episode of the podcast we discuss the recently concluded T20 World Cup in Australia - where England were crowned champions. We focus on some of the themes of the tournament - upsets, teams assessing a variety of conditions, exploiting ground dimensions, and the overall calibre of strokeplay - and wonder how some of the great bowlers are largely nullified by the format.

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Talking Points:

  • A World Cup full of memorable upsets
  • Navigating the conditions across Australia - and the effect it had on teams
  • Batting against length v batting against the field
  • Why some great batters are misfits in the format
  • India's problem at the top - and KL Rahul's T20 v Test fortunes
  • The Nasim Shah over to Jos Buttler in the final
  • The big difference between batting in an ODI and in a T20

Participants:

Siddhartha Vaidyanathan (@sidvee); Kartikeya Date (@cricketingview); Ashoka (@ABVan)

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Related:

  • England's approach may lead other teams into the T20 era - Sidharth Monga - ESPNcricinfo
  • The England white-ball machine - Jarrod Kimber - YouTube
  • The 'rationally irresistible' rise of Jos Buttler, T20 opener - Matt Roller - ESPNcricinfo
  • Who was to blame for India's defeat - Cricviz
  • Why T20 hitting is not just a more risky version of batting - Kartikeya Date - ESPNcricinfo
Nov 16, 202201:08:31
Sri Lanka's unique and incredible cricket history - interview with author Nicholas Brookes

Sri Lanka's unique and incredible cricket history - interview with author Nicholas Brookes

In the latest episode we talk to author and journalist Nicholas Brookes about his recent book An Island's XI: The Story of Sri Lankan Cricket.

We talk about Nicholas' journey in learning about different aspects of Sri Lankan cricket and touch upon some of the key themes in the book - the early 'whistle-stop tours', yearning for Test status, the massive victory against India in 1979, the aura of Satha, Opatha and the rebel tourists, Arjuna, Aravinda, Sanath, Murali - and the politics that has never been too far from the game in Sri Lanka.

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Talking Points:

  • The class structure in Sri Lankan cricket and how school's cricket is so fundamental to cricket on the island
  • Grace, Hobbs, Bradman, Sobers, Worrell - just some of the illustrious early visitors to Ceylon
  • M Sathasivam - the charm of the cricketer, the mystique around the man, the tragedy of an accusation
  • The 'rebels' who visited South Africa and the cloud that hung over the tourists
  • The chaotic years leading up to the 1996 World Cup triumph
  • Aravinda de Silva - everyman one minute, spectacular artist the next
  • The evolution of Sanath Jayasuriya leading up to 1996
  • A conversation in Peshawar: when Saqlain spoke to Murali about his doosra
  • The complexity of the Murali story - the politics, the cricket, and the man himself

Participants:

Nicholas Brookes (@brookeswites); Siddhartha Vaidyanathan (@sidvee); Mahesh Sethuraman (@cornerd)

Related:

The story of De Saram and Satha: batting geniuses who went to jail - Nicholas Brookes - The Cricket Monthly; In Colombo, three is not a crowd - Nicholas Brookes and Benjamin Golby - The Cricket Monthly; A Murder in Ceylon: The Sathasivam Case - Prof Ravindra Fernando - Amazon; Growing up with Murali - Andrew Fidel Fernando - The Cricket Monthly; When Murali bared his soul - Vithushan Ehantharajah - The Cricket Monthly; War Minus the Shooting - Mike Marqusee - Amazon; The lost boys of Jaffna - Andrew Fidel Fernando - The Cricket Monthly

Nov 07, 202201:52:12
'Cricket in England is held back by its own mythology' - interview with author Duncan Stone

'Cricket in England is held back by its own mythology' - interview with author Duncan Stone

In the latest episode we talk to historian and author Duncan Stone about his recent book 'Different Class: The Untold Story of English Cricket'. The conversation delves into the nebulous 'Spirit of the Game' and how it is emblematic of the fetishization of English cricket - which has turned a people's game into a seemingly noble pursuit accessible mostly to a privileged class.

You can order the book here.

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Talking Points:

  • The Spirit of the Game and why English cricket is its own enemy
  • The pivotal decision to take cricket off free-to-air television in 2005
  • What the Azeem Rafiq revelations teach us
  • Outlawing of competitive cricket in the south of England for several years in the early 1900s

Participants:

Siddhartha Vaidyanathan (@sidvee); Duncan Stone (@StoneDunk)

Books discussed:

Anyone But England - Mike Marqusee; Beyond A Boundary - CLR James; Willow Wand - Derek Birley; Rowland Bowen's history of cricket;

Related:

English cricket has always been a people's game, but that's not what the elitists will have you believe - Duncan Stone - ESPNcricinfo; The class and culture war at the heart of English cricket - David Hopps - ESPNcricinfo; ECB's South Asian Action Plan fell short - Duncan Stone - The Cricketer; Law (19.8) and Order - 81allout podcast discussing the 2019 World Cup final; The toxic side to the Australian way - 81allout podcast with Jarrod Kimber; Why is there stigma involved in running out a non-striker? Because it's all about power - Sidharth Monga - ESPNcricinfo; Spirit of Cricket & the Mankad - Pakistan Cricket Podcast




Oct 18, 202201:12:48