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8 Black Hands

8 Black Hands

By 8 Black Hands
Deep in the heart of public school education wars rage on, and few warriors come to fight for the people. Yet, there is one small band of freedom fighters bring sanity to the village. Anyone who threatens the education of our 8 million black children is likely to catch these eight black hands. [Twitter: @8Blackhands1]
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Ep. 175: The N*gga/er Episode!
The word Nigga/er has so much power to it. To some, the word represents pain from our ancestry, while to others, it's become a word for affirmation, a term for endearment of sorts. Tune in to this episode as we have an intellectual discussion about the word!
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Ep. 174: Why Not Be Negative?
With all this toxic positivity, why not be negative? This is the episode where we discuss it all. 
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Ep. 173: Black Self-Care ft. Dr. Jedan Phillips
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August 03, 2022
Ep. 172: Lessons from Independent Black Schools
In this episode, we discuss the value of independent Black schools. 
July 25, 2022
Ep. 171: Black Famous
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July 14, 2022
Ep. 169: Communities on Code
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Ep. 168: On Code: Servant Leadership Ft. Dr. Desmond Blackburn [@DK_BlackburnNYC]
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Ep. 167: On Code: Parent Power
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June 27, 2022
Ep. 166: "On Code" - The Role of the Black Male Educator Ft. Eric Hale
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June 13, 2022
Ep. 165: 46 Years of Excellence - The Legend of Mr. Herman Brown
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June 06, 2022
Ep. 164: Black Educators and their Unions
In this episode, we interrogated Black educators and their relationships with their union. If you are a POC and a member of a collective bargaining unit, this is the show for you. We had so much to unpack.
June 05, 2022
Ep. 163: Black Masculine Care feat. @DrMarcoClark
This week we analyze the work of Dr. Lisa Bass on Black Masculine Care as we talk shop with one of the dopest school leaders in the country Dr. Marco Clark.
May 25, 2022
Ep. 162: How to Handle the Haters
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May 16, 2022
Ep. 161: Happy Mother's Day
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Ep. 160: #8BHChat Sunday Service
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Ep. 159: We Are About to Get Cancelled!!
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April 29, 2022
Ep. 158: Black Liberation Ft. Cornell Ellis & Murray Woodward, II
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April 11, 2022
Ep. 157: #8BHChat Sunday Service
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April 04, 2022
Ep. 156: A Constitutional Right to a Quality Education ft. Jamarria Hall
In this episode, we look at the landmark lawsuit out of Detroit where high school students sued for a quality education.
March 28, 2022
Ep. 155: Are teacher strikes good for kids?
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March 28, 2022
Ep. 154: Sunday [#8BHChat] Service
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March 16, 2022
Ep. 153: Georgia Needs Rashaun Kemp [@RashaunKemp]
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March 08, 2022
Ep. 151: Cultivating New Black Leaders
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February 21, 2022
Ep. 150: Uncomfortable Black History Month
In this episode, we take off the gloves to discuss the uncomfortableness of Black History Month. Every week that we get to advocate for Black people is a super bowl weekend.
February 21, 2022
Ep. 149: Literacy and Beyond Ft. Dr. Miah Daugherty [@dst6n01]
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February 10, 2022
Ep. 148: Abbott Elementary & Black Teacher Representation
In this episode, we highlight the amazing new sitcom Abbott Elementary and it’s representation for Black teachers. We are joined by Mimi Woldeyohannes.
January 31, 2022
Ep. 147: Just Four Friends Talking Education On A Sunday Night
Sometimes you have to take it back to the essence of how it all started. In this episode, we do just that, we're talking education with the homies.
January 26, 2022
Ep. 146: I Too Am America
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January 26, 2022
Ep. 145: Dads on Duty
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January 13, 2022
Ep. 144: Critical Race Theory Ft. Dr. Julian Vasquez Heilig
In this episode, the fellas chop it up with Dr. Julian Vasquez Heilig (@ProfessorJVH), Dean of the Education at the University of Kentucky about his take on the recent uptick in anti-CRT rhetoric across the United States. Tune in.
December 07, 2021
Ep. 143: Which Black traditions are you most thankful for?
In this episode, we are joined by Dr. Robert Simmons to pay homage to the many traditions that have been part of our respective worlds.
December 01, 2021
Ep. 142: Satan and Godly Kingdoms ft. Lane Wright
Tell the truth, shame the devil. In this episode, we discussed how faith inspires our work.
November 26, 2021
Ep. 141: The #BlackChoice Movement 2: The How Ft: Emory Edwards
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November 16, 2021
Ep. 140: The #BlackChoice Movement
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November 08, 2021
Ep. 139: Black Pedagogical Genius & The Black Teaching Tradition
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November 04, 2021
Ep. 138: The Role of Media in Education Reporting
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October 27, 2021
Ep. 137: Are We Regressing?
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October 18, 2021
Ep. 136: The Courage to Stand Up for Kids
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October 12, 2021
Ep. 135: You Should Run for School Board
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October 12, 2021
Ep. 134: Fall Burnout Already?
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September 27, 2021
Ep. 133: Agentic Students Within Toxic Systems
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Ep. 132: To Be Black and American
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Ep. 131: Texas
They say everything big happens in Texas, this includes racist legislation to prevent Black and Brown votes, damaging education policy, and an overwhelming desire police the bodies of women. Get ready, we dig in on this one.
September 06, 2021
Ep. 130: The Teachers Our Students Deserve w/ Dr. Micia Mosely
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September 01, 2021
Ep. 129: How should schools and Black/Brown parents discuss current global events?
Come for the discussion on how schools should tackle major global events in Haiti and Afghanistan. Stay for the tips for families to discuss these issues with their children.
August 23, 2021
Ep. 128: Dumb Things Done in the Name of Equity
In this show, we discussed things done in the name of equity that range from silly to dangerous.
August 16, 2021
Ep. 127: Wakanda Schools feat. Emory Edwards
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August 10, 2021
Ep. 126: The Delta Variant and its Impact on Learning
In this episode the fellas discuss COVID-19 with a particular focus on the potential harm of the Delta Variant on K-12 learning.
August 02, 2021
Ep. 125: The School Leaders Role in Building Teacher Pipelines
In this episode, the fellas chop it up about the school leader’s role in building and sustaining teacher pipelines.
July 26, 2021
Ep. 124: The Covid Impact on Black Education
In this episode, we discussed the residual impact of COVID-19 on Black education, the Delta variant, and how Covid-19 will continue to play a vital role in how marginalized students and families experience K-12 across the United States of America.
July 19, 2021
Ep. 123: No "Bothesiderism" Ft. Dr. Robert Simmons
It’s impossible to be on both sides of wanting quality educational choices for marginalized students and families. We “ain’t” meeting you in the middle. It’s time to build a new table. @Robert_Simmons3 joins us.
July 13, 2021
Ep. 122: Parents Navigating School Return in the Fall Ft. Jay Artis-Wright
As schools come back to in-person instruction in the fall, join us as we discuss navigation strategy and tactics for parents with Parent Revolution ED, Jay Artis-Wright.
July 05, 2021
Ep. 121: What CRT Is and Isn't: Parts I & II
Part I: Critical Race Theorists Dr. Adrienne Dixon and Dr. Marvin Lynn dispel the Boogyman narrative being created by folks that are anti-CRT. Part II: (starts at 54:00): The fellas discuss CRT, our collective respond, and thoughts on how to move collectively. 
June 28, 2021
Ep. 120: Black Fatherhood
Happy Father’s Day... please make sure to come and kick it with us on this special Father’s Day edition of 8BH. In this episode, we celebrate Black Fathers worldwide.
June 22, 2021
Ep. 119: Don't Just Listen to Black Women, Support Them! Ft. Gabrielle Wyatt
In this episode, we chat with Gabrielle Wyatt. Some folks listen to respond, but rarely listen to comprehend. Join us as Ms. Wyatt discusses her plan to get funds into the hands of Black women. 
June 15, 2021
Ep. 118: The Realignment
School choice has a big tent, and a bigoted tent, this Sunday we draw a line in the sand as to where we stand. Given what has transpired the last 5 months, everyone can’t be friends, and we have to be okay with that. We go deep into it in this episode. 
June 07, 2021
Ep. 117: Practical Ways to Enrich Your Students Over The Summer
In this episode, we discuss practical ways to enrich your children during the summer. With the trauma students have endured during COVID-19, we have some ways parents can accelerate the learning of their students.
May 31, 2021
Ep. 116: The Permanent Interest of Black Folks
As other folks put their interests to the forefront, what say the Black congregation and its allies on where Black folks fit into the educational landscape?  Consider becoming a patron: 
May 24, 2021
Ep. 115: Are we integrating into a burning house? Ft. @JamilaDugan
This week the fellas chop is up w/ Dr. Jamila Dugan and tackle a burning question centered on integration in schools. You can purchase her new book, Street Data.
May 17, 2021
Ep. 114: Educating Black Boys w/Kamar O'Guinn
In this episode, we are joined by Kamar O'Guinn to have a conversation about educating Black boys, the Year of Return, and how the academy treats some of our brightest minds. For more 8BH content, consider joining our Patreon: 
May 10, 2021
Ep. 113: Unpacking America's Racism ft: Chairman Fred Hampton, Jr & Akua Njeri
It started with Freedom Friday, it all comes to a head Sunday w/ Akua Njeri/Fred Hampton Jr. Listen as they go in-depth about the process of making Judas and the Black Messiah. We got a lot of jewels this episode. It is like no other 8BH episode you've ever witnessed. So get ready, we have a lot to unpack.
May 03, 2021
Ep. 112: Exploring the Gates ft. Dr. Annette Anderson
What are the important benchmarks that folks should be following when it comes to student achievement? This week we will explore achievement gates with Dr. Annette Anderson [@ImpactGreater].
April 27, 2021
Ep. 111: School Leadership in the Midst of Chaos Ft: Principal Kafele
In episode 111, we welcome Principal Kafele to dive into school leadership and its crucial role in the school community and educational ecosystem.
April 19, 2021
Ep. 110: The Duality of Black Men [In Education] ft. Larry Irvin, Jr.
In this episode, we welcome Larry Irvin, Jr. to break down his incredible journey in education to co-found Brothers Empowered 2 Teach which attracts Black men in NOLA to become educators. We ask, "Is there even space for Black men to be truly authentic in the education space?" Consider joining our Patreon: 
April 12, 2021
Ep. 109: Do For Self
In this episode, the fellas offer a special Easter episode that's practically two shows in one! Join us as we discuss what "doing for self" means in terms of education. We hope you enjoy this longer episode and if so, let us know. 
April 05, 2021
Ep. 108: It's Time to Talk About Teachers' Unions (Again)
If a year of pandemic homeschooling has taught us anything, it is how much power teachers' unions hold over public education and its administration. Parents and community members are frustrated by closed schools and sub-par remote learning, and they are becoming even more frustrated by school districts who can't seem to get their teachers on board with increasing learning time for their children. Even better-off parents in affluent white communities are learning the teachers run the show.  What practical actions can parents take to be seen as equally as powerful as teachers' unions? Consider becoming a patron:
March 29, 2021
Ep. 107: Real Men Teach
In this episode, the fellas are joined by Curtis Valentine to discuss his initiative, Real Men Teach and the importance of Black male educators. There was a lot of valuable insight in this episode. Make sure you comment and share it after listening. 
March 22, 2021
Ep. 106: High-Quality Safe Spaces for All Black Children
In this episode we talk safe spaces for Black kids. What exactly does that look like? As a parent how do you analyze what a safe space is for your child?Tune in to be part of the discussion and share this podcast if you find the conversation helpful.
March 15, 2021
Ep. 105: We All Can Play A Role...
In this episode, the fellas offer practical advice from their areas of expertise. Chris is an expert around parent organizing and communication. Ray is an expert in leading systems as a successful superintendent. Sharif is an expert around teaching and building Black educator pipelines. Charles is an expert around community and youth work leading to agency and power.  In addition to the episode, the fellas left you all a gift with their takeaways. Download it here and don't forget to add your own practical advice and use the hashtag #8BHtips. 
March 08, 2021
Ep. 104: When the System Fails You! Ft. Rashad Turner
In this episode, we explored what must be done when the system continues to fail us. We were joined by birthday boy, Rashad Turner (@rashadsrepublic). He talks about practical ways families can fight back and we also hear about his plans to start a school. 
March 01, 2021
Ep. 103: School Choice for Me But Not For Thee Ft. Andrew Campanella
The fellas kicked it with Andrew R. Campanella (@andrewrcamp) as we discussed school choice for me and not for thee. This was an empowering show that provided parents with ways to navigate the choice space.
February 22, 2021
Ep. 102: Teaching Our Children Is An Honor Ft. Salome Thomas-EL
Teaching students in so called "High Needs Areas" should not only be exhilarating, but it should also be an honor for outsiders that those communities welcome in. Dr. Salome Thomas-EL (@Principal_EL) joins and blesses us with his wisdom. The conversation gets heated in a beautiful way. Don't miss this conversation with five passionate Black men discussing how to make things better in education for Black students. 
February 15, 2021
Ep. 101: Dr. Fuller Returns… (Ft: Dr. Howard Fuller)
In this episode, we bring back the legendary Dr. Howard Fuller (@HowardLFuller). We discuss some pressing current events impacting Black folks and the importance of generational cooperation to truly achieve Black liberation through education.
February 08, 2021
Ep. 100: Building a Black Future feat. Killer Mike
In this episode, we celebrate their 100th episode in grand fashion as we chop it up w/Killer Mike (@killermike) about building Black community which includes Black education and more. You do not want to miss this one! 
February 01, 2021
Ep. 99: Expanding the Brand
One of the things we've reflected on coming up on our 100th show, is how can we highlight more voices by giving them a shared platform to enact change. We are currently in the development stages of creating a network of shows. This show highlights our progress to date by talking to the brand about the brand.
January 25, 2021
Ep. 98: Real Revolutionary Education ft. DeRay McKesson
The fellas kick it with DeRay McKesson (@deray) to discuss revolutionary education in the classroom. Looking forward to fruitful discussion.
January 18, 2021
Ep. 97: Demand Education Receipts, Especially Now! Ft: Corey DeAngelis & Neal McCluskey
In this episode, We have @DeAngelisCorey and @NealMcCluskey joining us to help us show parents & the community how to demand education quality even during these strange times in addition to discussing their new book, School Choice Myths. Also, join our Patreon for more exclusive access:
January 11, 2021
Ep. 96: Trumpers Attack the Capitol!: America Needs The Hands
In this special episode, the fellas react in real time to Trumpers storming the Capitol, Listen as we process in real time what has just occurred on US soil. 
January 08, 2021
Ep. 95: Black-Belt Education Activism: Making Black Children a Real Priority in 2021
We should be tired of our 8 million Black children not being a REAL priority in America. What do we mean by "real"? We mean clear, informed, and urgent. Listen to the episode as we define what these terms mean to us going into the new year. We need you all to take the pledge with us. 
January 04, 2021
Ep. 94: New Year's Resolutions [For Education]
In this episode we make our asks (Resolutions) for the 8+million Black kids and the 10+ million Brown kids that need a better education solutions. After that, we engage in a great debate about the best ways to go about ensuring Black and Brown families get the most out of education. Buckle up. We wish you all a very happy holiday season. For more access, consider joining our Patreon at 
December 28, 2020
Ep. 93: Do School Districts Owe Black Folks Reparations? Ft. Darrel Burnette II (@daarel)
In this episode, the fellas welcome special guest Daarel Burnette II from Education Week. Join us as we discuss the notion of reparations through education and what that could look like. you'll learn a lot in this episode.  For more access to the Hands, consider becoming a patron: 
December 21, 2020
Ep. 92: In Service of the 8 Million Ft. The 8BH Patrons
In this episode, we honor and amplify some of our biggest supporters that are doing amazing work serving students and their families around the country. There are ways we all can improve education for underserved kids and you will walk away with tangible ways to do just that. Join us. For more access, consider becoming a
December 14, 2020
Ep. 91: House Rules for Black Ed Activist
This has been a crazy week for Twitter beef between Black education advocates. Saying the wrong thing gets you dragged (by Black folks and their white followers). If we're going to fight for kids without getting in each other's way, we need some house rules. Let's talk about it. For more access, consider becoming a patron:
December 07, 2020
Ep. 90: #YouAreWelcome Ft. Sarah Carpenter and the Powerful Parent Movement
In this very special episode we are joined by friend of the show and modern day Fannie Lou Hamer, Sarah Carpenter (@LadyTenn) and she brought back up, the Powerful Parent Movement (@WeArePPM). The Hands were blessed to hear from some of the best parent organizers of today. They discuss their work and what they want school leaders and educators to know.  Check it out and let us know your thoughts. Thank you for the support. For more access, consider joining our patreon at 
November 30, 2020
Ep. 89: The Black Barbershop Episode ft. Dr. Steve Perry
You are in for a treat this week. We are joined by our colleague and friend of the show, Dr. Steve Perry (@DrStevePerry). The gloves come off and the fellas just dive into various education issues that include educating Black kids, the teachers' union, and Sunday rituals to name a few. Dr. Perry brought it. We are sure you'll enjoy this one. 
November 23, 2020
Ep. 88: The Great Divide ft. Briahna Joy Gray
The fellas chop it up w/ Briahna Joy Gray [@briebriejoy] about the great divide in our country, and how we can place ourselves on a path to heal.  But we definitely end up having a discussion about politics and how it intersects with education.  Briahna Joy Gray also has a brand new podcast herself called, Bad Faith [@BadFaithPod]. Be sure to check her out. 
November 16, 2020
Ep. 87: Post Election Chop Up Feat. Nina Turner
In this episode the fellas chop it up with Nina Turner.  Our Country needs this talk, so make sure to clear your calendars because this is one you do not want to miss. Nina Turner is now family, so follow her on Twitter: @ninaturner. Also, she has a new podcast, called Hello Somebody: For more access to The Hands, join us at
November 09, 2020
Ep. 86: The Importance of School Board Election Part II
In this episode, the fellas bring in candidates in important local school board races to determine their why? We are blessed with 3 guests. We two current school board candidates in John Little who is running for school board in the Nashville area and Tanya Ortiz Franklin running for District 7 LA Unified School District. We are also joined by Naomi Shelton who is currently on the charter school board in Washington DC.  For more access, join us at 
November 02, 2020
Ep. 85: The Importance of School Board Elections Ft. Adonica Duggan
In the episode, the fellas chop it up with Adonica about the importance of school board elections. Using both Oakland and Baton Rouge as case studies, the hands go deep on activating agency at the local level.  Join us on Patreon for exclusive content at
October 26, 2020
Ep. 84: Unusual Politics Ft. Zakiya Sankara-Jabar
In this episode, we welcome the amazing Zakiya Sankara-Jabar. Together, we discuss Ice Cube's agenda for Black Folks, Cube's conversations with 45's campaign, and the "Blacklash". We also discuss Diddy launching the Black Party, and how these ideologies help or hurt Black People. For more access to The Hands, join our Patreon at
October 19, 2020
Episode 83: What's Popping In Your Neck of the Woods?
In this episode the fellas, the fellas welcome the one and only Shavar Jeffries, the president of Democrats for Education Reform, or better known as DFER. This talk tackles everything from the VP debate, to leaders that exercise choice for their kids while campaigning against other Black folks exercising their agency, and differing ways to building Black power.  Join our Patreon at
October 12, 2020
Ep. 82: Ish Just Got Real!
In this episode, the fellas discuss the debate that never happened; The president and the first lady being diagnosed with covid-19; and proud boys.
October 05, 2020
Ep. 81: An Exemplar in Black Homeschooling ft. Ian Taylor Schlitz
Ian is a 14 year old phenom, who recently graduated with his Associates degree.  He owns his own business, and is on his way to doing major things.  We will talk with Ian about his experience being homeschooled. This is the feel-good story 2020 needs. 
September 28, 2020
Ep. 80: Critical Race Theory in the Era of 45
In this episode, the fellas welcome Dr. Shannon Waite and Dr. Marvin Lynn to discuss CRT in the era of Donald Trump. There's a great debate to be had here. Take a listen and share your thoughts. 
September 21, 2020
Ep. 79: Not So Nice Black Parents
In this episode, the fellas react to the Serial (NY Times) podcast Nice White Parents. The fellas explore a number of themes from the show ranging from integration to how certain families come in and takeover school spaces. You don't want to miss it. 
September 14, 2020
Ep. 78: The Hands Take a Stand
In this episode, The Hands analyze a powerful article written by ally and co-conspirator Dirk Tillotson, as well as call out the misappropriation of Black culture in higher ed. Stay tuned, the fellas go in, as per usual.
September 07, 2020
Ep. 77: The Black Agenda Episode
In Episode 77, the fellas discuss the current state of Black America, more specifically what’s our ask? Stay tuned as the fellas broach discomfort in order to get to what will best benefit Black folks during this time of racial upheaval.
August 31, 2020
Ep. 76: The 2nd Annual BLACK 2 School Episode
In their 2nd Annual Black 2 School episode, the fellas help families and educators navigate schooling during these unprecedented times. This episode had great energy.
August 24, 2020
Ep. 75: 2020 Freedom Schools
In this episode the fellas talk candidly about school designs needed for Black kids to thrive post COVID-19. This episode will be a forward thinking one, meant to push parents and school systems beyond their norm.
August 17, 2020
Ep. 74: The "Good Trouble" Episode
In this episode, the fellas honor the lives of C.T. Vivian and John Lewis. Please leave us your thoughts and share this episode. 
August 10, 2020
Ep. 73: Smart Black Kids Vs. Acting White
In this episode, the fellas are joined by two youth from Energy Convertors to discuss the topic of "Acting White". The students break down their experiences and the 8BH crew give you their signature authentic talk. You don't want to miss this. 
August 05, 2020
Ep. 72: Healthcare in the Black Community
Following up on our last show that focused on self-care, the hands chop it up with Dr. Jedan Phillips about healthcare in the Black Community. 
July 27, 2020
EP. 71: Self-Care During COVID-19 featuring Hilary Beard
In this episode, the fellas chop it up with award winning writer and editor Hilary Beard. We discussed self-care and wellness techniques as preventive measures. This is the episode you learn from. 
July 20, 2020
Ep. 70: A Covid-19 School Re-entry Plan
In this episode, the fellas discuss the country's plan to reopen schools.
July 13, 2020
Ep. 69: The Current State of Education w/NTOY Rodney Robinson
The hands get to kick it with the 2019 National Teacher of the Year Rodney Robinson. We went through a bunch of topics and Mr. Robinson did not disappoint. You definitely do not want to miss this.  For more access and content from us, become a member of our Patreon at 
July 06, 2020
Ep. 68: The Confederate Flag, Defunding "Trash" Schools, & Other Topics from the Week
This week we discuss America's obsession with the Confederate flag, the flag's historical context and implications. Also, we talk about what it could mean to "defund trash" schools, and a couple of more topics w/ twists and surprises. Tune in.
June 29, 2020
Ep. 67: Strange Fruit/Ed Reform & Police Reform
In this episode, the fellas talk about strange fruit, and having the same energy for ed reform as we currently have for police reform. This is one of those marathon episodes. You asked for longer episodes and we did our best to listen.  Let us know your thoughts. 
June 22, 2020
Ep. 66: The Everybody Luvs Raymond Episode
In this episode, we celebrate the professional accomplishments of Ray Ankrum. Listen and learn about his time in growing up in Louisiana to his journey to becoming a superintendent. It's all in there. 
June 17, 2020
Ep. 65: The Vainglorious Episode
In this episode, the fellas show their love and appreciate for Chris Stewart. Our co-host has an amazing story and we finally get to dive into it. We hope you enjoy it. For more access to the 8BH crew, join our Patreon:
June 08, 2020
Ep. 64: The Fire This Time
This episode was different. The fellas discuss the ongoing protests and offer their reactions and thoughts. This was our longest episode yet as the fellas let their thoughts breathe. 
June 01, 2020
Ep. 63: The School-to-Activism Pipeline
In this episode, we honor the work of our co-host, Sharif El-Mekki. We learn about his organization, his life's philosophy, and how his time growing up in Iran. Yes, our co-host is an onion with layers. You'll definitely enjoy hearing these stories. For more access, join our Patreon at Find us on twitter at @8BlackHands1
May 25, 2020
Ep. 62: Typos and All... feat. Dr. Brian Stanley
In this episode, we honor one of our own, Dr. Charles Cole, III. We do a deep dive into his research and his mindset while doing it. We are joined by friend of the show, Dr. Brian Stanley who offers insight as one of the advisors to the research. If you want honesty and vulnerability from the fellas then this is your episode. Listen, comment, and share.  Beyond Grit & Resilience Also, for more access to The Hands, join our Patreon:
May 18, 2020
Ep. 61: R.I.P. Ahmaud Arbery
This was a tough conversation but necessary. No long intro here. Enjoy and heal with us.  For more access, join our Patreon:
May 11, 2020
Ep. 60: Student Homelessness during COVID-19
Today the fellas tackle student homelessness. This topic hit pretty close to home for the hosts. The fellas break down the 4 different types of homelessness while discussing what we can do to better support students. For more access, join us over at
May 04, 2020
Ep. 59: Live with Google's Education Evangelist, Jaime Casap
The Hands chopped it up with the Google Evangelist, Jaime Casap. We discussed the amazing work that he's currently doing, as well as get Jaime's thoughts on equity and access for poor and disenfranchised students during this Covid-19 pandemic. Take a listen and share. For more access, check out our Patreon:
April 27, 2020
Ep. 58: Live with THE Kaya Henderson
This was quite the episode! Kaya broke down key reflections form her time as Chancellor in DC. She came with so much wisdom and love for our community that it felt more like a masterclass on leadership. Take a listen and share.  For more intimate content, join our Patreon at 
April 20, 2020
Ep. 57: Schools out, instructional leadership, and student retention
The hands talk about the rift between New York's governor and NYC's mayor; the missing conversation about principal quality; and whether or not students should be retained a grade due to the pandemic. Join the Patreon for even more access: and follow us on Twitter @8BlackHands1.
April 13, 2020
Ep. 56: These Are Trying Times
In this episode the fellas go deep on a few topics including:  - Shaun King  - Teachers working during spring break  - COVID-19 Updates Listen, comment, and share. Also, check join our virtual book club over on Patreon.
April 06, 2020
Ep 55: The Well-Spoken Episode & Other Topics
In this episode, the fellas went deep and explored everything from the new-education-normal via COVID-19 to how people feel about being told they're well-spoken. We had a great time so join us by listening and sharing the convo with your friends. 
March 31, 2020
Ep. 54: The Quarantine Episode
In this episode, the fellas explore the new normal. They discuss how they are adjusting in these uncertain times. Take a listen and share it with a friend. Also,  for more exclusive content, join the Patreon at 
March 23, 2020
Ep. 53: Coronavirus vs Everybody
At an unprecedented time where the coronavirus is changing life for everyone, we decided to take it head on. We discuss everything from how families are coping to the inactivity of the president. This is a time where we all must step up for each other. Take a listen.  Also, the Patreon is live. Check it out here:
March 16, 2020
Ep. 52: 8BH Live from Little Rock!
This was a special live episode. We got to spend time in Little Rock and it was amazing. Huge shout out to the Reform Alliance for bringing us out. We covered a ton in this episode including everything from holding your elected officials accountable to interest convergence. It was great. Also, check out our new Patreon where you'll get more episodes, videos, and other exclusive contact. Check it out at Twitter: @8BlackHands1
March 09, 2020
Ep. 51: Arresting 6 year olds, Presidential Elections, and the State of Education Journalism
In this episode, we discussed the viral video where a 6 year old girl is arrested and the fellas have some pretty strong takes. Then we shift our attention to the latest news from the presidential elections before analyzing the current state of ed journalism. It was a fun show. We were joined by Marquis Evans, a teacher in West Oakland doing amazing work to go beyond the classroom and engage his parents in new ways. Enjoy. 
March 02, 2020
Ep. 50: What Will It Actually Take to Get More Black Educators Into Your Schools and Districts?
Many schools and districts are announcing that they want more diversity in the teacher workforce. Far less are moving mountains to ensure the teaching and learning conditions for Black and Brown students and staff are anti-racist environments and conducive for people of color. We have two guests, Ramon DeJesus, Director of Diversity Development in Cambridge Public Schools and Dr Robert Simmons III, Executive Director of the Black Educator Initiative for Urban Teachers. Both of these educators are renowned for their work in educator diversity and development. Enjoy. 
February 24, 2020
Ep. 49: Nothing is Off Limits w/Dr. Boyce Watkins
You all are in for a treat. As the title suggests, we covered a ton of topics. Dr. Watkins came on the show and did not disappoint. Join us as we discuss educating Black folks, economics, politics in academia, the importance of Black ownership and more! This episode was a revelation. 
February 17, 2020
Ep. 48: A Chat w/Baltimore City Public Schools CEO, Dr. Sonja Santelises
In this episode, the fellas chat with the CEO of Baltimore City Public Schools, Dr. Sonja Santelises. They discuss a wide range of topics including Baltimore's push for equity, improving over time, and changing the narrative of Baltimore. Take a listen, leave your thoughts, and share. 
February 10, 2020
Ep. 47: Black History Month, Black Politicians, and Comparing the Social Media Era with Yesteryear
Happy Black History Month!! In this episode, Charles and Sharif dive into a lot! The fellas start by highlighting a few Black leaders that meant a lot to each of them personally. Then the fellas veer into a video by Jason Riley called Blacks in Power Don't Empower Blacks (no endorsement either way). Click the link to watch the full video. It raised an interesting debate point for the fellas as they then debated whether we can have a movement today at the same magnitude as Malcolm, Martin, and Rosa. Some interesting conversation there. So join us in our living room and leave your thoughts. We appreciate you. 
February 03, 2020
Ep. 46: RIP Kobe & Gigi, Plus the Brightbeam Report
Man, this was a tough one. Recorded just hours after the tragic news of Kobe Bryant's death, the fellas got a chance to reflect. Life is short, love hard. Afterwards, we dive into the recent report put out by Brightbeam, The Secret Shame: How America’s Most Progressive Cities Betray Their Commitment to Educational Opportunity for All. This was special as our very own Chris Stewart, CEO of Brightbeam, commissioned the report.  Enjoy.
January 27, 2020
Ep. 45: Live From NOLA & Discussing Parent Power
In this episode, the fellas got to travel to New Orleans to the amazing inaugural National Parents Union Parent Power 2020 Summit. The fellas discussed themes of parent agency and why parents must be at the forefront of improving our educational inequities. It was an amazing conversation that we were privileged to have at a historic event.  Take a listen and let us know your thoughts. 
January 20, 2020
Ep. 44: New Year, Same Academic Madness
In this episode, the fellas take on 2 different issues. First, we discuss a school fight that went too far and resulted in a mother getting a black eye and then we dive into the difference between California textbooks and Texas textbooks. That's right, exact same company, same book name, different facts. We told you it was madness, right?  Also, Ray has released the first episode to season 2 of his Edupurist Podcast. Check that out. As always, leave us your thoughts. We appreciate everyone that takes the time to listen. 
January 13, 2020
Ep. 43: The Impotence of Choice: How Far Would You Go to Get Quality Education?
Welcome to the new decade! We missed you all.  In this episode, the fellas discussed a school so in demand parents camped out to get their child a spot. The fellas discuss the importance of access  and how far parents are willing to go to ensure their kids get what they need. Take a listen and let us know how far you'd go to get your child the education you feel they deserve.  You can read the reference article here. 
January 08, 2020
Ep. 42: Go Where You Are Celebrated, Not Tolerated
This episode is the return of our brother, Chris Stewart and he was in rare form!! In this episode, we covered a lot. First, we discussed the a group of privileged parents upset at potential boundary changes that would route more Black students to their district. We played a clip, and it got pretty testy. Then we engaged in a conversation about why we think there aren't more Black schools across the country. We had a great conversation, so listen and join it. Reach out with your thoughts on Twitter @8BlackHands1. 
December 23, 2019
Ep. 41: They Call Our Kids 'Criminals' | The Saga of Urban Dove
In this episode, the fellas discuss the saga surround Urban Dove School which has plans to move into a Jewish Community. Urban Dove is a charter school that serves students who failed the 9th grade. The past two tenants of the building have been Jewish schools, one Conservative and one Orthodox, that each ran into financial problems and stopped paying rent. More than a 100 protestors showed up advocating that the building hold that space for a Jewish school, orthodox or conservative. You can read the full story here.  In the protest, students were basically called thugs and criminals so you know we had to tackle the topic. Send us your thoughts on Twitter @8BlackHands1. 
December 15, 2019
Ep. 40: Everyone wins with more Black educators ft. Dr. Constance Lindsay
Our communities have always known the power of Black children having Black teachers in their lives. The numbers of Black teachers dropped significantly as a result of the Brown vs Board decision. While we’ve known the short -term impact of having Black teachers, a team of researchers that included our guest, Dr. Constance A. Lindsay, investigates the long-term impact of same race teachers on Black children. Join us to hear what this brilliant researcher found in her research as well as what she’s investigating next. As a bonus, here is an article where Dr. Lindsay discusses her findings. 
December 08, 2019
Ep. 39: Sarah, In Her Own Words
Sarah Carpenter and the Powerful Parent Network lifted their voices at a rally where Elizabeth Warren was speaking and it is getting national news. Before major news outlets change the narrative, we wanted you all to hear straight from Miss Sarah Carpenter herself. Enjoy. 
November 27, 2019
Ep. 38: Agentic Black Mamas Address Warren & Her Education Plan
In this episode, the fellas dive into the protest by the Powerful Parent Network. Sarah Carpenter, friend of the show and guest of Episode 19, had a head on collision with Elizabeth Warren and the public response has been interesting to say the least. Take a listen and give us your thoughts on Twitter @8BlackHands1.  Also, as part of the 8 Black Hands listening crew, one thing we definitely believe is that Black folks have and have always displays high levels of agency in the face of adversity. Sadly, those same Black folks often have to share that burden by themselves. If you want to support Ms. Carpenter and show her she is not alone, her Twitter handle is @LadyTenn.
November 25, 2019
Ep. 37: Discussing Segregation, Black Education, and Truth LIVE in Minneapolis
In this episode, the fellas find themselves live in Minneapolis. The conversation touches on legislation attacking culturally affirming schools serving Black kids that have been designated as "segregated". We also have a direct conversation about the state of education for Black children in the city's public school system. All that and more in this episode.  As always, you can converse directly with us on Twitter @8BlackHands1. Thank you all for your continued support. 
November 17, 2019
Ep. 36 - Live from Texas!!
While Texas is known for doing everything bigger and better, we wanted to know if the same mantra is realized for their Black students’ achievement levels. Listen to this episode to determine #HowAreTheChildren Hit us up on Twitter @8BlackHands1
November 10, 2019
Ep. 35: White Folks, Please Stop Lecturing Black Folks About OUR Children
In this episode, the fellas dive deep into the paternalistic ways in which white folks and other entities of power try to explain Black children to Black people. As always, the fellas hold no punches nor leaves any stone unturned. Tune in for the realest education conversations led by Black folks you are going to find on the internet.  Find us on Twitter @8BlackHands1
October 28, 2019
Ep. 34: The Chicago Public Schools Strike & Chance the Rapper
In this episode, the fellows have a deep discussion on the latest CPS strike before debating a recent comment by Chance the Rapper. This was a necessary episode. Enjoy.  Comment on the episode on Twitter: @8BlackHands1
October 21, 2019
Ep. 33: Revisiting The Revolt Summit
In this episode, Chris and Charles revisit the Revolt Summit in all its glory. Listen in to see where the fellas fell on the Killer Mike & Candice Owens exchange, and the need for more Black forums such as this. You can also view the full Revolt Summit Panel here. Enjoy. Twitter: @8BlackHands1 
October 07, 2019
Ep. 32 Loving Education Debates Amongst Black Folks w/Special Guest Dr. Bettina Love
In this episode, we got to chat with Dr. Bettina Love about her new book, We Want to do More than Survive, Black education, what she thinks we must do to ensure better education for Black children moving forward. We had a ton of LOVING debates (see what we did there?). Do yourself a favor and check it out.  Also, go cop Dr. Love's Book Here and send her some love on twitter @BLoveSoulPower. 
September 30, 2019
Ep. 31: 6-Year-Old Girl Arrested, Desks in Bathroom, & Broke Booker
In this episode, the fellas discuss a myriad of controversial topics in the world of education. First they discuss the arrest of a 6-year-old girl for having a tantrum in school while also discussing whether cops are even needed in schools. Then the conversation flips to discuss the case of a boy with autism potentially having his desk placed in the bathroom! [CRAZINESS] Before finally circling back to Cory Booker and his plea for funding to stay in the presidential race. It's all here.  Twitter: @8BlackHands1
September 23, 2019
Ep. 30: Live in DC w/Jalen Rose
Well, the fellas were on the rode once again and this time was blessed to interview Jalen Rose about all the amazing work he is doing at Jalen Rose Leadership Academy in his hometown of Detroit. Spoiler Alert, the big homie killed it and had smoke for those hating on his school. You gotta take a listen.  Jalen invited The Hands to come out to his school for a live show so we are definitely looking forward to making that happen. If you are trying to get The Hands to your city, hit us up on twitter @8BlackHands1.  ------ You can get merch from The Hands here.  Also, you can cop Beyond Grit & Resilience by our own Charles Cole here as well. 
September 15, 2019
Ep. 29: The Edupurist Takeover
While The Hands are preparing to go back on the road, Ray and his Edupurist Podcast took over our airwaves. Go support Ray and the Edupurist podcast. You can find more Edupurists pod episodes here: and subscribe to the twitter page @TheEdupuristPod. Enjoy the show! --- In this episode, two OG's in Ed-reform David Hardy and Tyrone Mowatt stop by to talk about public education. In this no holds barred conversation, they talk about ways to be innovative and take risks as school leaders, by using innovative ways to reach Black and Brown students and families. Mr. Mowatt expands on his theory of sending "lifeboats" to save our students. Mr. Hardy expands on what quality should look like in Philly and beyond.
September 09, 2019
Ep 28: Emancipatory Education
This episode is all about emancipatory education. The fellas offer their thoughts and personal experiences to this term that deserves more attention. What is emancipatory education to you and where are you seeing it happen now? Share it with the 8 Black Hands Crew on twitter @8BlackHands1. Also, our brother Charles has released his first book, Beyond Grit & Resilience! If you make it to the end of the show there's some special instructions that may lead to you getting a few copy. So enjoy the show. 
September 02, 2019
Ep. 27: Is Jay-Z Helping or Hurting the Movement? *Plus How This Informs Education in Black America
This is a special episode. It's so special, in fact, that we gave you bonus material at the end of the episode. In this episode, we discuss the latest regarding Jay-Z and the NFL. Then we discuss how this affects the 8 million Black children in our schools across the country. The brothers definitely had some disagreements here but its all in service of our community.  Let us know your thoughts at our Twitter handle @8BlackHands1.  Also, if you want to bring 8 Black Hands to your city, hit us up on twitter. 
August 26, 2019
Ep. 26: Recapping Our Live Pittsburgh, PA Show
Oh this one is a doozy! In it, we start out recapping the AMAZING State of Learning event in Pittsburgh, PA. In that live show (which we hope to put out soon) there was a bit of controversy and we discuss it here. Spoiler Alert: the Hands definitely disagreed in this one. Check it out for yourself.  Twitter: @8BlackHands1
August 19, 2019
Ep. 25: NAACP, What About the Black Kids in Cali featuring Christina Laster
In this episode, we welcome Freedom Fighter Christina Laster. She is the current Education Chair of the San Diego branch of the NAACP and she stands for Black children even when the state chapter doesn't. Here, she tells her story and gives advice on what we all should do if we really are about educating Black kids. She brings that HEAT, ya heard!!  You don't want to miss this episode.
August 12, 2019
Ep. 24: Booker's Betrayal
We send our thoughts to Gilroy, El Paso, and Dayton.  Then we discuss Booker's flip flop on parent choice that led to a spirited debate about the Democratic Primary landscape. There was real (and productive) conflict. Strap in because this one is a wild ride. 
August 05, 2019
Ep. 23: All The Smoke Featuring Dr. Charles Cole & Dr. Keith Benson
This episode originally appeared on Ray's podcast, the Edupurist podcast.  In honor of Charles' birthday, we have decided to re-broadcast this episode.   The birth of this episode came from a twitter disagreement, in which two sides of a passionate argument (Keith and Charles) came together to discuss educational issues from their perspective.  It was a powerful episode-- and we wanted to share it with the listeners.  Please listen and share with the hashtag #HowAreTheChildren!  And don't forget to wish Charles a Happy B-Day!
July 30, 2019
Ep. 22 - Stand & Fight ft. Dr. Howard Fuller
In this episode, we got to spend time with the man himself, Dr. Fuller. He gave us a ton of free game, history, and all the motivation one may need to stand up for Black education in this country.  You can find Dr. Fuller on twitter: @HowardLFuller
July 22, 2019
Ep. 21: Mayhem at Disneyland
In this episode, we discuss Chris' controversial article about the melee at Disneyland and how we should respond as a community. We argued, we laughed, we agreed, we disagreed. Enjoy and join in.   Twitter: @8BlackHands1
July 15, 2019
Ep. 20: EdReform is Dead, Now What? [Live from Vegas]
This was a special episode. The fellas were live and the crowd was all the way into it. Shout out to that AMAZING crowd. The room was a little loud and there's a slight buzz BUT the content is fire. As always, please share and leave your comments.  Enjoy!  Twitter: @8BlackHands1
July 12, 2019
Ep. 19 The Memphis Lift on Why Parents Should be Leading the Movement
Ray and Charles got a chance to sit down with the most amazing group of parents in the game. We had an amazing conversation. Sarah Carpenter and her team are forces of nature. Unapologetic, knowledgeable, and just all out great for kids in Memphis.  Check them out at Like and rate the podcast on Apple Podcast. Share with your people. 
July 04, 2019
18: "Radical Binacity" of Whiteness and Ed Reform
In this episode, Charles and Ray dive deeper into the recent Atlantic article by billionaire Nick Hanauer as he has his "epiphany' of sorts regarding the relationship between economic inequality and poor education.  Needless to say, Charles and Ray had a lot to say on the topic.
June 24, 2019
17: When They See Us Discussion (Part 2)
PART 2 In this episode, we dive deep into the Limited Series Netflix show, When They See Us, directed by Ava DuVernay. The convo grew and as a result, we turned it into two episodes.
June 12, 2019
16: When They See Us Discussion (Part 1)
In this episode, we dive deep into the Limited Series Netflix show, When They See Us, directed by Ava DuVernay. The convo grew and as a result, we turned it into two episodes. So enjoy Part 1 and share your thoughts.
June 12, 2019
15: Ep. 15 The Philly Show ft: David P. Hardy
In this episode, Ray and Sharif venture to Philly to talk to the "OG" David P. Hardy (@davidphardy) about all things Philly education. Great episode. Take a listen and continue to conversation on Twitter @8BlackHands1.
June 02, 2019
14: Ep. 14 Black Education Under Attack in Cali
In this episode, the fellas discuss the legislation on the table aimed to take charter schools out and the Black folks most impacted.
May 28, 2019
13: Ep. 13 Bernie's Barking Again...
The team tackles Bernie's advocacy to take away a wing of Black and Brown education. We have a LOT to say on that topic.  Oh, and we know Charles' mic sounds weird, we gotta get that kid a new one. Enjoy and always, continue to conversation with us on Twitter at @8blackhands and rate us on Apple Podcast.
May 19, 2019
12: Ep. 12 Live from Oakland!!
We had the privilege of recording our first live show in Oakland at the Charter Collaborative Conference. We tackled a wide range of topics with the treatment of Black schools being one of them.   Take a listen. If you like us, give up 5 stars on iTunes. It goes a long way.   Continue the conversation on Twitter @8BlackHands1
May 12, 2019
11: Ep 11: The Tale of the Assistant Principal and his trusty Sharpie
AP decides that his only recourse of action is to draw on a student in order to fix his haircut and get him back to class. Not once did he think to call this kid’s parents. Things like this happen to our kids all of this time, and we have to do a better job of preparing Black and LatinX kids to respond to these types of situations.
April 29, 2019
10: Ep 10: Should principals be able to impose dress codes on parents?
Texas principal implements a dress code for parents. People are up in arms about the new dress code policy, as many feel it represents an archaic way of thinkings, as well as identity politics. Is this too harsh of a policy? Do principals have much more to do with their time than to police the bodies of adults? These are all things to ponder as you dive into the latest episode of the 8 black hands podcast. Get your 8 Black Hands merch here:
April 29, 2019
9: Ep. 9: Black Parents, You Are On Your Own
Let's start this thing off right, WELCOME BACK TO THE VAINGLORIOUS CHRIS STEWART. Happy to have you back, brother.  The fellas discuss why we say Black parents are on their own and ways they can be ready. No punches pulled, just straight talk in service of the 8 million.  Follow us on twitter @8blackhands1
April 08, 2019
8: Ep. 8: TFA, Scapegoat Supreme
The 8 Black Hands tackle the issue of California trying to banish TFA ( from their schools. Our very own Raymond Ankrum tackled this one of his recent articles ( . Sadly, in the midst of recording the episode, we got word that Nipsey Hussle was murdered. He was doing amazing things in his community and it is truly a loss.  There were some minor audio issues but the conversation is intact so bear with us. After you listen, shoot us your thoughts and comments on twitter: @8BlackHands1
April 01, 2019
7: EP 7: Oh Y'all Was CHEATIN' Cheating - Operation Varsity Blues Scandal
In the midst of the greatest college admin scandal, the team breaks down their reactions and thoughts on where Black folks should go from here.
March 18, 2019
6: EP 6: Oakland Strikes Again - This time it's personal
As the heat from teachers' strikes in Oakland rises, things are turning violent. Charles Cole helps us understand the recent vandalism and threats to education advocates.
February 25, 2019
5: EP 5: Blackface, black history, and black education
What does black history month mean to us? It means we need to keep eyes on the prize and not be distracted by media reports of politicians in blackface. Our kids deserve our full attention.
February 18, 2019
4: EP 4: The Oakland teachers are set to walk on struggling students
Here we go again. This time it's Oakland that is bracing for a teachers strike that will disrupt the education of children who are already so far behind. To help us understand what is at issue we invited **Dr. Brian Stanley**, the former Executive Director of the Oakland Public Education Fund, and education activist **Dirk Tillotson**, founder and executive director of the nonprofit Great Schools Choices.
February 11, 2019
3: EP: 3 What happens when our own friends and family hate charters and school choice?
Ray Ankrum's piece "[Adressing Anti-School Choice Noise](" gets us talking about the people in our life and community how disagree with the education work we do.
February 06, 2019
2: EP: 2 Teachers strike in Los Angeles, but not for us.
This past week we saw teachers in Los Angeles end their first strike in in 30 years. Did the parents and children in that city gain enough in the process? We discuss Citizen Stewart's [piece on the issue](
January 29, 2019
1: EP 1: Dr. King, integration, billionaires, and the black church
In this first episode the crew (Ankrum, Cole, El-Mekki, and Stewart) introduce the show and talk about the importance of Dr. Martin Luther King, public school integration, and the big money that funds anti-school choice activists.
January 22, 2019