Messy Path

Whitney got married in September 2022 in a beautiful little resort on the backside of the Tetons. It was an intimate, aligned, authentic ceremony and celebration that I was lucky to attend with my partner. In this episode we discuss Whitney's journey in planning their wedding, how she/they stayed centered in flow and alignment, how they handled when things inevitably didn't go 'perfectly', and a lot of joyful, fun details!

Congratulations Whitney and Greg! 

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Tis the season for witches. As Halloween approaches and images of the witch surround us, what do we really know or need to know about the history of witches, how it's intertwined with the oppression of women's rights, and what the affects or influences the witch narrative still has on women today. For this conversation, Whitney and I brought in my dear soulsister and historian Hannah to shed more knowledge and insight, and of course, to make a coven of 3.

🧙‍♀️ I'm hosting a Witch Wound Collective RTT Healing Session on October 24th at 7pm central time. To join, message me or follow the link:

Whitney got married! Ariel got engaged! That and SO much more in this long overdue catch up! 

What topics are you excited for us to cover? Send us a comment of message!

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Although the path through personal, spiritual and relationship growth and development is messy, and never ending, it does not mean that it is always actively hustling and bustling. Whitney and I are both in phases of deep growth and integration. And both of us keep getting messages from the universe to SLOW DOWN and REST. 

So what does that look like, sound like, feel like? 

This leads us to a conversation around envy. While we may be at different depths and rest moments of our journey, we talk through the struggles of seeing other people in action points in theirs.

Join us through this flowy, coaching, supportive conversation. 

Let us know where you are along your messy path right now? Are you in a rapids? A swiftly moving stream with the wind at your back? Or are you in this deep slowness like us? Share with us!

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Whitney hit a big milestone birthday in September 2021. Because she is the amazing and inspirational coach that she is, she is sharing the 35 things she's learned in her 35 years around the sun! We're splitting this conversation into two parts so you get the most of Whitney's story sharing, resources, and inspirations!

35 List (continued from Episode 60)

18. Give thanks for each relationship, even if they end in flames - you learned and needed some aspect of the experience

19. Enter every situation with a beginners mind. Even if it's something you're an expert in. There's always more to learn.

20. Learn how to FEEL your feelings without becoming them. There's a big difference.

21. Know that you'll never have the same conversation twice, everyone in your life is always changing, as are you.

22. Change may feel foreign but it can end up being the most comforting feeling.

23. Even on your darkest days, you're never alone. One of the other 7 billion people on the planet is feeling the same thing you are in their own life.

24. The fears you have are not unique, they can be overcome. They're a guide post of where you're ready to expand next.

25. Learn a different language, it will help you see differently in daily life.

26. Study other religions and beliefs than the one you were raised with, it will show you that all humans are looking for the same comfort and support.

27. Don't be afraid to change mid-stream. Sometimes you have to explore something to realize it's not for you.

28. Push yourself to go further than you thought you could. There's always enough energy for one or two more steps on the path.

29. Find a belief, practice, or place that bring you comfort - use it often.

30. Don't hide what you're truly feeling. You'll regret not being real with someone more than you'll ever regret "losing face"

31. There is no external person, place or thing that will ever fill the hole of love. You must first love yourself and create things you love in your life. 

32. If you admire someone, tell them. We all need support and to honor our gifts.

33. Don't ever downplay your talents, someone admires you for them.

34. A genuine conversation will mean more to someone than 'keeping it safe' with small talk.

35. Take the time each day to be present with your surroundings - feel the air, smell what's around you, touch the nearest surface... ground yourself here if only for a moment.

Let us know what resonated with you! What are you being called to work on? What do you feel like wisdom of age and experience has taught you? Share with us!

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Whitney hit a big milestone birthday in September 2021. Because she is the amazing and inspirational coach that she is, she is sharing the 35 things she's learned in her 35 years around the sun! We're splitting this conversation into two parts so you get the most of Whitney's story sharing, resources, and inspirations!


35 List:

1. Your intuition is always right

2. You won't have to second guess if a friendship or relationship is "genuine" if you are questioning, it's not genuine. 

3. Working your ass off for a future goal (when it's set by someone else - ie a boss) is never going to leave you 100% happy

4. Take at least one solo 4+ day vacation

5. Take the time to figure out what your ideal day is and do your damndest to make part of it blend into each day (even if you're working a job you hate)

6. Start honoring your budget NOW (and it doesn't have to be painful!)
   Resource: I will teach you to be rich by Ramit Sethi

7. Take your fears and journal why they're not true, it's one of the most freeing exercises you can do

8. Time in nature is never wasted

9. When you feel you don't have any time "for you" is when it's most important to take time to step back, even for an hour

10. Don't worry about finding your "life's purpose," find your NOW purpose. You're a dynamic being - and life will change you

      Resource: Soul - 2020 Pixar film

11. Understand that each chapter of life will have a different focus, different energy. Don't judge each chapter on it's own but look at the whole

12. Ask yourself each day "What does my soul need most?" and do your best to give it to yourself

13. Take up a hobby you had or wanted in childhood as an adult, it will fill your spirit

14. Take time to get to know yourself, outside of societal expectations. Strip all the "could, would and should" away and ask "who am I"? (Don't answer with labels like "mom, friend, job title.")
15. Find something you admire in every person you meet. It'll help you be more open to all possible connections in life.

16. Do your best to understand differing perspectives. We are all having unique and connecting human experiences

17. Don't put anything on a timeline. It will come when it needs to.

(Continued in episode 61)

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Hello old and new Messy Path listeners! Whitney and I are excited to be back for season 3! Today we share the story of how we met for the first time in person during the season break! We share about our relationship journey - of course. And so much more!
Let us know what you'd like covered this season! Write to us with your questions, topic suggestions, or just anything you want to know more about! 

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We have some big news from the mountain! Whitney got engaged! In this episode we share Whitney's engagement story and a lot about her work on herself and relationship that got her to the great place she's in now! This episode is full of great stories and celebrations, as well as lessons! Enjoy!

If you're being called to expand your personal growth or transform an issue or manifestation in your life, Whitney and Ariel would love to have you in their Messy Path Group Course running October-December 2021. Registration is open now! If you have any questions, please reach out to us!

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You've done it! You recognized your contrast, sent up your rocket of desires, faced your shadows, done the transformational inner work.... you're transformed. You feel freer, more grounded. Now what?

That kinda toxic ex keeps hitting you up. You're still at your crappy job. Your bank account balance still reads less than your monthly bills. Now what?

Doing the inner work doesn't of healing and transformative growth isn't a magic wand that then rearranges your whole life like waking up in a different hallmark movie. Often times, the hardest part, or the part that requires the most endurance, is seeing your transformation through, facing your tests, choosing your transformed self, and integrating your transformation into your life. 

Luckily, Whitney and Ariel are here to hold space for you, guide you, uplift you, remind you, and support you with tools for integrating your transformation into your life!

If you're being called to expand your personal growth or transform an issue or manifestation in your life, Whitney and Ariel would love to have you in their Messy Path Group Course running October-December 2021. Registration is open now! If you have any questions, please reach out to us! 

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Transformation comes in many ways and happens at many levels. Rapid Transformational Therapy is a great tool to support healing and transformation at the emotional level. Both Ariel and Whitney have felt a great impact in their lives from using RTT, that's why we are incorporating it in our Messy Path Group Course. As a certified Rapid Transformational Therapy Therapist and Hypnotherapist, Ariel describes the process and impact of transformation at an emotional subconscious level. 

If you're interested in joining us for the Messy Path Group Course, you can message Ariel or Whitney and find out more information in our website listed below. This 3-month intimate group course combines conscious (mind/ego) with subconscious (emotion/soul) work to expand your connection to your inner self while connecting with others on a similar journey.

One of Ariel's favorite tools in a Rapid Transformational Therapy (RTT) session is to identify how old scenes, beliefs, and emotions aren't part of you anymore! Within the RTT school, this tool is referred to as "that's not me." Whether done subconsciously through hypnosis - as in an RTT session, or consciously, the impact of identifying you are no longer that former version of yourself is very empowering! This discussion came forward after Whitney shared her own "that's not me anymore" example from her personal life!

If you are interested to learn more about how to work with Ariel or Whitney, or would be interested in working with us together, please visit the links to our website's below and more information on our services and our upcoming group course cohosted by Ariel + Whitney!

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Whitney and Ariel are so excited to announce the Messy Path Group Course for fall 2021! Today's episode goes into further detail about our inspiration and intention for this transformative intimate community experience! 

Join us along with a small group of like-minded womxn to set the intention of change, do the inner emotional work to transform wherever you are stuck or seeking expansion in your life, and connect in supporting each other through integration!

This 3-month intimate group course combines conscious (mind/ego) with subconscious (emotion/soul) work to expand your connection to your inner self while connecting with others on a similar journey.

The three months will focus on conscious intention setting, moving through subconscious blocks, followed by transformation integration.

What the course includes:

3 months

2 guides - Ariel + Whitney

6 biweekly group zoom meetings

3 - 2:1 meetings with you + Ariel + Whitney

1 group rapid transformational therapy session

private facebook group

weekly "homework" & healing practices

resources & guidance for alignment

Investment is $3000, payment plans available.

We have more information on our websites, and you may schedule a free consultation with either Whitney or Ariel to through our sites as well. 

If this resonates with you, please consider joining us! We are happy to have you! 

What do you do when the Universe / Inner voice / Inner guidance tells you... 'not right now,' 'just wait,' or '...'? Whitney and Ariel share their experiences from the 'waiting.'

"I should be further in my career by now." "I should be married/have babies by this age." "We've been together this long, we should be married by now." Any of these sound familiar? Whether you are receiving pressure regarding where you "should" be in life at any given time by a direct person in your life - like mom/ partner/ friends, or your ego is feeling the general societal should pressure imposed by the patriarchy throughout time, the pressure to be where you "should" be is something many of us battle with. So what's the difference between external 'shoulds,' contrast that sparks manifestation, or aligning to your needs, wants and desires? How can you determine the difference between the 'shoulds' and soulful alignment?

In this episode, Whitney and Ariel explore how we have worked on releasing the 'shoulds' and living through alignment - connecting to our inner truth and guidance in leading our own life, and helping others connect to theirs. 

What are you thinking you 'should' be doing at this point of your life that doesn't feel in alignment to how you feel and your alignment? How have you moved through contrasting shoulds? How did leaning into a should v alignment affect your journey? When have you braved alignment and how did that feel? Share your reactions with us!

Why is it harder to go from 'good' to 'great', than it is from 'bad to good'? Whitney and Ariel received this question from a listener and we took off with it! Often this is described as our "upper limiting beliefs" and can come as quite a shock when we feel like "we've been doing the work" and now come to yet another block in our road. As we process through in the episode, this is all just part of that messy path of the human growth experience - understanding and navigating through all the bumps, turns, and rocks along the journey. We delve into mindset, manifestations, resistance, and tools to help process through!

Share your thoughts! Message us - do you think it's harder to go from 'good to great' than 'bad to good'? Where are you experiencing 'upper limiting beliefs' in your life? What have you done to help move through them? What tips or guidance from the episode did you find useful and supportive? Do you disagree with us about anything? Let us know! We'd love to hear your thoughts and send us further questions! 

Following up from our earlier episode on calling in "signs" from the Universe, messages to help connect and guide you from the ethereal plane, we expand on further questions and experiences in what it's like recognizing and working with signs.

What happens if you're not receiving the signs that you want? What do the signs mean? I don't know that I'm getting any signs, how do I recognize them? What does receiving signs mean? Who or what is giving me signs?

Whitney and Ariel really enjoy these conversations! We expand further on some of our big sign experiences, what our process has been like in trusting our intuition to identify and receive signs and guidance, and so many great metaphors - like the cairn in the episode image!

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Maya Angelou teaches us, "When someone tells you who they are, believe them the first time." But what does that mean, what does that look like as it plays out in relationships? How do you battle between knowing when is the right time to stay or go? Whitney and Ariel talk through examples from their own lives and client stories giving examples to these common relationship trials. They provide tips on establishing, installing, and holding true to your needs, wants, and desires, and understanding soul contracts and releasing stories and expectations from the ego. For anyone who's ever experience the dissonance and contrast of another person not matching their level in a relationship, you know this is one of the messiest aspects of our relationship journeys.

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Faced with the shadows or triggers from past issues - how does your transformed, healed, inner working self now respond? How do you feel? How are you integrating the transformation from self work into your life? What does that look like, feel like? What impact does all this inner work actually have on your life - your job, relationships, well being?

Ariel is being faced with those shadow situations right now in her life, and spends part of this episode reflecting on how doing the deep inner work has shifted her thoughts, feelings, emotions, relationships, jobs, relationship to her soul.

We discuss tips, tools, and guidance on integrating the transformations of inner work along our constantly expanding messy paths.

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As we transition into spring in Northern America, many of are feeling that shift of energy. The emerging of spring, in conjunction to increasing percentages of Covid vaccinated people is giving many of us a glimmer of long anticipated hope for things to "return to normal." But is "back to normal" really where we want to go? 

In this episode, Whitney and Ariel discuss what aspects of pandemic life were to our benefit? What did we learn about ourselves? And what do we want to keep integrated into post-pandemic life?

Pandemic aside, the conversation really applies to all times of transition. We touch on the impact of releasing expectations and control, introverts and extroverts, self care v. soul care, releasing hustle culture, the concept of time, establishing and keeping boundaries, the impact of sustained trauma, and how to integrate your transformed self into your life.

Let us know how you are feeling? Are you feeling like the pandemic lockdown is nearing an end? How is that impacting your life and your well being? What have you learned about yourself this past year, or through other transitions? What tools of soul care did you lean on or need more support for? Let us know in the comments or send us a message!

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Ariel recently turned 32! 🎉 We're discussing the flow of birthdays, reflections on growth journeys, and so much more. Ariel and Whitney revel in how they both love their two jobs - rather than having a day gig they despise and side hustle that's their passion. We talk about processing our feelings - because always. And trusting the flow of the universe.

Tonight, we're starting the March session of our Messy Path course! But you don't have to miss out if you haven't enrolled yet! We want to make this as flowy as we can for people to participate, so we're also offering one-off week opt-ins!
✨You can join us for the womxn circle only
✨get a meditation each week on the topic we discuss.

This option is $75/wk (live womxn circle and meditation). Send us a message to join!

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We’re breaking through the bulls**t of societal conditioning and grounding into our soul truths.

Whitney posted a tiktok video about her former relationship break up and people freaked out about it on the internet! Using that as our stepping off point we touch on some of the societal conditioning keeping us small - from high school bullying, to internet trolls, breaking out of relationships and stepping into your fullness.

Another flow of consciousness conversation between Ariel and Whitney, guided by their oracle card pulls around Imrama - a journey of the soul, where we don't know where we are going, but the soul knows the way. We also discuss the theme of Coddiwomple which is the act of traveling in a direction you’re being pulled but with unknown destination. Something Ariel and Whitney have embraced throughout their spiritual journeys. And the ever important aspect of feeling your feelings and letting them flow!

If our stories and messages are resonating with you, and you wish you could talk through your messiness WITH us, well we have an opportunity for you!
We're hosting the next session of the Messy Path Course in March. And we want to make this as flowy as we can for people to participate. 

We take a modern look at creating and honoring soulful relationships. 

As we continuously move to break through antiquated patriarchal suppression in all aspects of our life and societal systems, today we explore what that looks like in terms of relationships. What does it mean and look like to honor soul contracts over legal contracts? As we continue to grow, expand and develop as soulful beings along our messy paths, what affect does that have on our partner relationships, friendships, partnerships, family orientations? How does that affect dating, breaking up, getting married, separating, breaking up, divorcing, conscious uncoupling? This episode is full of aha moments and breakthroughs for navigating the constant growth and journey of upgrading into modern soulful relationships.

Ariel and Whitney will also be hosting another free drop-in womxn's circle on February 11th, coinciding with the new moon. You are welcome to join us - follow our IG and Facebook announcements for link to join.

If you are enjoying and resonating with our podcast, we invite you to join the March session of the Messy Path Course. We'll lead you through a collective journey of centering in your mess, releasing old stories, connecting back to yourself, and making a commitment to uplevel into your Higher Self!

Astrology is a great tool for understanding and connecting further with yourself. Today, Ariel and Whitney take a hobbyist's journey explaining the North and South Nodes in your natal chart and what information can be gathered there. Essentially, your South Node represents your soul's past, the lessons you need to learn and grow through, the things that may feel comfortable or familiar to you... until you are ready to transition or uplevel into your soul's potential - your North Node. This episode is a fun exploration where Ariel leads Whitney through some reflective exercises and shares about her own journey through the nodes as well!

Let us know how this resonates with you! What struck you from our conversation? Are you familiar with you north and south nodes? What insights or ahas have you discovered about yourself? Where have you felt resistance? 

The book Ariel references in the episode is: Discovering your Soul Mission by Linda Brady.

Ariel and Whitney will also be hosting another free drop-in womxn's circle on February 11th, coinciding with the new moon. You are welcome to join us - follow our IG and Facebook announcements for link to join.

Positive space boundaries are often one of the most difficult aspects of our lives to set and maintain. With the rise of political tensions surrounding the Trump/Biden presidential race, cultural protests, the pandemic, and all of it being shared through social media, the need for healthy boundaries in our lives seems more pressing than ever. We talk about the importance and value of boundaries in your life. We discuss how to navigate political discussions and social media commentary, speaking and acting from your authenticity in sexual situations, navigating familial and partner relationships, how to establish and uphold emotional and energetic boundaries, and provide tips and suggestions from our own experiences.

Whitney shares a great boundary reframing metaphor that boundaries are like guardrails to help guide and protect you along your journey.

Ariel's reframe is from feeling like the hidden inner child, to the strong queen with an open heart.

We also share a number of reflective questions to help process emotional boundary setting.

We are also hosting a free virtual womxn's circle Thursday, January 21st at 8pm eastern time.  We are currently pushing back the start of our more structured Messy Path Course. This is what is flowing forward as the best way to support you right now. Follow either of us on instagram or facebook for more information on future circles as well. 

Happy Christmas week! We want to celebrate this transition into the new year by keeping things light-hearted and reflecting on some of our favorite fun manifestations! As growth seeking beings, we're always manifesting desires, but some come with much less resistance than others. This episode is all about some of our fun big manifestations!  They involve homes, cars, trips, and time travel! You'll see! We also discuss what we're manifesting for 2021. 

We'd love to hear about your fun manifestations or  what you're intentions or manifestations are for 2021! Send us a message!

The January session of our Messy Path Course starts 01-12-21! 

What happens in the Messy Path Course?

During the Messy path you take one major thing in your life that you’re looking to learn a lesson from, change or manage and we dive deep into it.

When you sign up you’ll get a note from Ariel and I asking you to rate how you’re feeling about all the different aspects of your life and take some time to think about exactly what part of your life you’d like to focus on for the next month.

Then we dive into 4 weeks of focusing on just that.

You have the support of TWO coaches during this whole journey as you learn:

-How to not identify as the mess in your life

-How to reframe the stories you’ve been telling yourself

-How to get more in touch with your whole self, sex and all!

-And finally - you’ll recommit to your relationship with yourself as you move forward.

Each week we meet 2 times the first is to discuss that week’s topic and hear from Ariel and Whitney about how this has shown up in our lives and the second session is all about you sharing where you are and what came up when answering the workbook prompts for that week.

We seriously cannot wait to hold this space for you!

Links below to sign up, grab your space!!

In response of major messages from the Universe to Whitney and Ariel regarding slowing down (re: ep 13), we are taking a break from the podcast for the holidays and in January while we are hosting the Messy Path Course. You can stay in touch with us through our instagrams and reaching out at any time - and hopefully - joining us in the course! 

In this vulnerable episode, we hit record on a conversation processing current challenges in our relationships. We share how we've been been processing our romantic relationships this year, the challenges that have come up and how we have processed and are processing through them, what it means to be doing the work for other people as an Intuitive Relationship Coach and Rapid Transformational Therapist and how that affects our process. We go deep into sharing insight from our personal healing sessions and how we're processing through that. This episode is really a reflection on our growth and insights from the past three episodes relating to romantic relationships, personal, spiritual, and career developments. 

Let us know what about our stories are resonating with you! Where you are facing challenges or growth in your romantic, personal, spiritual, or career lives right now? Send either of us an email, DM, comment wherever you are seeing the episode. 

If you are interested in working with either of us, are vibing with our stories - consider joining us in the January session of the Messy Path Course! Enrollment is open now! We start January 12th, 2021, meeting two times a week for a month.  The course includes weekly workbook prompts, guided healing meditations, and sharing in community with other like-minded women as we guide you in moving through the mess and connecting deeper to your higher self. For more details and to register, visit either of our websites:

Throughout our life, seasons of change, energy cycles, transitions - physical and energetic, menstrual cycles, moon cycles, healing cycles, all of these times of our lives carry different energies and request from us different energy levels. In this episode, we discuss the importance of flowing with your energy through those cycles. Reminding you, as we remind ourselves, that we're not always in the hustle/ absorption / crisis healing / growth mode but valuing the times of rest and integration that our body, lives, and energy needs.  Flowing with your energy is a way of honoring and valuing our energetic cycles.

What do you notice about the ebbs and flows of your energy? What practices or tools do you enjoy at different phases of your energy? Let us know!

Big news! If you enjoy our podcast, you'd probably enjoy working with us too! Registration for the January session of the Messy Path Course is now open! Dates and information can be found in our websites. Please message us with any questions - we look forward to you joining us!