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A State of Mind

A State of Mind

By Julian Royce
We feature provocative, in depth conversations leading thinkers on topics including meditation and mindfulness, non-dual spirituality, psychedelics, psychology, ecology and sustainability and eudomainia or genuine happiness: how to co-create a more loving and thriving world. Guests so far include authors, professors, psycho-therapists, mindfulness meditation and dharma teachers, visionaries, philosophers, community activists and more. I am deeply looking forward to sharing these conversations with you.
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#81 - Dr. Jenelle Kim and the Korean Art of Living Meditation
Julian speaks with Dr. Jenelle Kim. Dr. Kim is a 9th generation traditionally trained Korean doctor. Dr. Kim is devoted to integrating the philosophy, medical wisdom and expertise of East Asia with the advancements of modern life and medicine of the West in order to touch and positively affect the lives of others. Jenelle holds a Master of Science Degree in Traditional Oriental Medicine (MSTOM) and is Nationally Board Certified in Herbology, Oriental Medicine, and Acupuncture. She furthered her studies abroad, training with some of the most respected doctors and herbologists of East Asia. Through the companies she co-founded – Orience, Tao of Man, and JBK Wellness Labs – Jenelle is able to share the healing power of Traditional Oriental Medicine with a greater audience around the world. Topics Covered 0:00 Introduction Derek Demuth's music video made it past the YouTube censors and you can watch it on episode #79 More stories of disfunction and extreme social justice ideology at Naropa University Introducing Dr. Jenelle Kim 7:13 Conversation with Dr. Kim begins Her background and family lineage The 3 M's: Movement, Meditation and Medicine Reflections on 'Eastern' and 'Western' Cultures and Pre-modern and Modern eras How to make the right choices in your life- The "True and Right Method": True= what is true for you in that situation and Right = what is best for everyone involved. Meditation and Non-duality Stories of her father and his meditation teacher Advice around herbal medicine and taking supllements Her upcoming book: Myung Sung: The Korean Art of Living Meditation Learn more about Dr. Jenelle Kim here: A State of Mind Podcast: A State of Mind Counseling: Support the show:
July 24, 2021
#80- Shadow Sides of Naropa University with Kate Vosti, Somatic Educator
Kate Vosti, a Somatic Educator and dancer, sits down with Julian to discuss her path and work and her mixed experiences as a former graduate student at Naropa University's Somatic Counseling Dance and Movement Therapy program. Learn More About Kate: Instagram: @rhythm.rose Topics (in Chronological Order): 0:00-11:28 Introduction Buddhist Perspectives on Human Development and Spiritual Development Her early interest in the Buddhist teachings Self Doubt as a form of Laziness Different ways to understand ‘doubt’ and ‘the mind of  not knowing’ Being ‘spiritual not religious’ New age spiritual beliefs The relative rarity of talking with someone practicing within an authentic spiritual lineage That modern or contemporary people have a ‘God shaped hole in their hearts’ The surprising success of Trader Joe’s in offering us less choices 27:30: The reasons why Naropa University seemed to make so much sense for Kate The events, health struggles, discovering Ecstatic Dance and Five Rhythms that lead to Kate eventually going to the graduate school for Somatic Psychology at Naropa University The Calling to become a somatic dance movement therapist Issues with the current state of Naropa University from the perspective of being a student How Naropa University seems afraid to challenge it's students 40:00 How Kate feels psychologically traumatized by attending Naropa 50:00 - Issues of Cultural Appropriation around Buddhism and other forms of spirituality at Naropa 54:00 - how the Masters in Dance Movement Therapy program lacked learning how to practice or teach dance movement therapy; how their one class on Dance Movement Therapy focused instead on the colonialism of ballet and related topics. 57:00 - a few of many stories of social justice attempts gone awry from Julian's experience in the Graduate School of Psychology 62:00: Is it advancing the cause of Social Justice to apologize for the color of your skin? Discussion of the shadow sides and down sides of the current state of education at Naropa 90:00 - not allowed to use the word 'mute' to refer to muting oneself while on Zoom because it is not politically correct. Links to articles and books mentioned: Even "Trigger Warning" is Now Off Limits by John McWhorter The Coddling of the American Mind: A State of Mind Podcast: A State of Mind Counseling: Support the show:
July 10, 2021
#79 - The Six String Journey with Visionary Musical Artist Derek Demuth
Julian talks with Derek Demuth, a classically trained, percussive finger style guitarist, artist and visonary. Topics: Studying Classical music Developing his own style All the work behind the scenes to create a music video How the Pandemic has affected musicians and how it has affected different people differently Climate Change Psychedelics and Psychedelic assisted Therapy Technology and the Creative Process Electronic Music and Live musicians YouTube censorship Secret bonus music video Premier of a new song by Derek called Sands of Time At end of this podcast is the full uncensored music video created by Derek that was taken down by YouTube earlier this year Learn more about Derek at: Spotify: Instagram:  @derek_demuth A State of Mind Podcast: A State of Mind Counseling: Support the show:
June 26, 2021
#78- Wilderness, Somatic & Psychedelic Therapies with April Pojman
Julian talks with April Pojman, a wilderness and somatic based trauma informed therapist. Topics range from what trauma is and why being in touch with one's body is essential to healing to the role that psychedelic medicines can play in healing. Learn more about April at: Topics: April shares how she works with a Somatic orientation, with wilderness and with psychedelics - and ways these three are all similar EMDR Trauma therapy What is Trauma in context of psychology and therapy? April's experience with NGOs and policy work Somatic Psychedelics Wilderness Ketamine and Cannabis assisted therapy and what that can look like The stigmas and stereotypes around Cannabis and how different it is in the context of therapy Why she named her practice Lions Breath Counseling. A State of Mind Podcast: A State of Mind Counseling: Support the show:
June 13, 2021
#77 - Empowering Creativity with Janis Dochterman, Expressive Arts Therapist
Julian speaks with Janis Dochterman, an expressive arts therapist. Learn more about Janis and her many offerings here: Click this link to participate in the Ways of Looking Research study on the relationship between meditation practice preferences, personality traits, and the use of psychedelics. No psychedelic experience is required for participation. Learn more about Tiny Temples: A State of Mind Podcast: A State of Mind Counseling: support the show:
May 26, 2021
#76 - The Beacon Calling You Home with Ena Vie and Howard Lipp of Ka-aela Rafaana Ministry
Julian speaks with Ena Vie and Howard Lipp of Keala Rafana Ministry. Learn more about their work and connect with Ena and Howard at: Instagram: @enavieandhowardlipp Facebook: Ena Vie and Howard Lipp Topics: Addictions How we are addicted to our thinking Plant spirit medicine and Psychedelics as anti-addiction medicine Music as sanity - how Howard grew up as a musician Howard's experience in an Addiction treatment center and how an experience with 'Soma' helped him to overcome the roots of his addictions The Soma in this case may well have been derived from Amanita muscaria Ena's life story of growing up in a strong Christian community and eventually breaking away from that The importance of community and how their ministry is about creating a positive loving community Authentic self - what it is and how to discover it How to know what to do Traditions and living lineages - the need for spirituality and traditions to evolve with each generation, rather than holding to a fixed view of how it is supposed to be. Howard shares from his Hebrew culture how the Torah and other scriptures are meant to be living and evolving with each generation. Everything is energy consciousness There is a beacon calling you home. It is the song of your soul. Come listen with us a while. We will help you hear the music. The song of your essence, the divine spark that’s you, is the song that calls you home. Keala Rafana ( A State of Mind Podcast: A State of Mind Counseling: support the show:
May 13, 2021
#75 - Wild Horses (& goats!) with Kate Neligan, Equine-Partnered Life/Career Coach, Speaker, Author & Healer
Julian speaks with Kate Neligan. Kate works as a coach and brings people and groups to spend time with horses and goats as part of her coaching. Learn More about Kate Neligan at: Click this link to participate in the Ways of Looking Research study on the relationship between meditation practice preferences, personality traits, and the use of psychedelics. No psychedelic experience is required for participation. Topics: Introduction 0:00- 8:12: Ways of Looking Science study on the  relationship between meditation practice preferences, personality traits, and the use of psychedelics. Julian's bout with Covid Conversation with Kate Neligan 8:33: Equine and goat assisted coaching Loves animals Taming - gentleing 'Power with' Fun theory - that people will do more if its fun Bring teams from Corporate America to spend a day with the horses Emotional intelligence 'taming' or 'breaking' a horse - Kate prefers to call it 'gentling' Wild horses Re-Wilding Kate is starting to train other Equine coaches A State of Mind Podcast: A State of Mind Counseling: support the show:
May 2, 2021
#74 - Life Awake with Ori Zimmels
Julian is joined by Ori Zimmels, a spiritual teacher and guide.    Ori offers coaching, mentoring and guiding as well as leading groups.   Learn more about Ori's work and contact him at  Topics Discussed:    - Spirituality and what it is   - Being a 'seeker', looking for truth, exploring different paths   - Efforting and Effortlessness    - India   - Spirituality as Developmental   - Importance of having a guide or teacher who actually cares about you   - Spirituality as a developmental path of getting to deeper and deeper identities  - Making Decisions from rightness or true Self and distinguishing that right choice from when one is dis-regulated  - Differentiating 'self' or 'true self' from 'self image'  - Self and Authentic Impulse  - Non-duality
April 17, 2021
#73 - Lama Sarah Harding & Translating Buddhism for the Modern World
Lama Sarah Harding joins Julian to share stories of her life and work as a practitioner, scholar, Lama and translator of Buddhism. About Sarah Harding: Sarah completed the first three-year retreat for westerners at Kagyu Ling, France, 1976–1980 and later served as a translator at Kagyu Shenpen Kunkyab, Santa Fe, 1980–1992. She was a founding member of Kalu Rinpoche’s International Translation Group in 1987 and has taught the Tibetan language to hundreds of students over the years, including creating a popular Tibetan language correspondence course. She retired from Naropa University in 2018 after twenty-six years of service. She continues her written translation work from her home in Boulder, Colorado. Tsadra Foundation fellow since 2000. Topics: Sarah Harding shares stories from her life Issues of Translation Discussion of Vajrayana Deity Yoga Practice and her translation of Creation and Completion Neuroscience and Buddhism Emptiness and Compassion A State of Mind Podcast: A State of Mind Counseling: support the show:
April 11, 2021
#72 - Kyle Buller of Psychedelics Today
Kyle and Julian discuss the history, present and future of psychedelics.  Kyle is the co-founder and director of education and training at Psychedelics Today.   0:00 - 5:31  Intro  5:54 Conversation with Kyle   Topics discussed:   - Psychedelics Today   - History of Psychedelics   - Stan Grof and Holotropic Breath Work   - Kyle shares his story of a near death experience at age 16   - Rick Strassman and DMT  - Over Use and Right Use   - Julian shares about the Psychedelic Sitter School   A State of Mind Podcast:    A State of Mind Counseling:    support the show:
March 26, 2021
#71 - Psychedelic Secrets of Buddhism with Mike Crowley
Mike Crowley is the author of Secret Drugs of Buddhism: Psychedelic Sacraments and the Origins of the Vajrayana. He has been practicing and studying Tibetan Buddhism for over 40 years and after over 20 years of study and practice was recognized as a lama by his teacher. He is currently writing a new book on Psychedelics for Buddhist and Buddhism for Psychonaughts. O:00- 10:57 Introduction 10:58 Conversation with Mike Crowley begins Partial List of topics in order discused: Soma, the ancient ritual drink of the Vedas The Caste System and Vedic rituals To even touch a Mushroom was forbidden in the ancient Laws of Manu The War on Drugs and Cultural Taboos Pema Lingpa, biography and Mike Crowley discovering a terma treasure from Pema Lingpa inside of a prayer wheel Longchenpa The importance of Amrita or the 'nectar of immortality' in Vajrayana Buddhism Robert Thurman, Timothy Leary, Ralph Metzner Death and Deathlessness, Ego and 'ego death' Non-duality, Emptiness and Oneness Panca - Amrita 'the five fold amrita' that later became the English word 'punch'. Duncan Creek Farm Retreats in northern California A State of Mind Podcast: A State of Mind Counseling: support the show:
February 28, 2021
#68- From Therapist to Guide with Jeff James Howard, LPC
Jeff James Howard, LPC joins Julian discussing the state of psychotherapy, being a soul guide, some of the problems with 'cancel culture' and the adolescence of United States culture writ large, vision fasts in the desert, men's work, danger of bypassing one's own past and unsustainable ways of trying to achieve transformation - list of topics below Feb 18 republished with Edited Intro - 0:00- 5:40min Intro 5:40 min - 68:00min - Conversation with Jeff Topics: Transitioning from psychotherapy to being a  soul guide Inside the Kiva Finding our life's purpose and calling The difference between 'you have a unique gift' and 'what do you want to be when you grow up?' The stories we grow up with Introjects versus leading with genuine longing Why Jeff went into therapy as a client Bill Plotkin, Depth Psychologist, Wilderness Therapy, Amos Valley Institute and the Patho Adolescence - how many of us never really grows up and become initiated adults in the world. That the Insurrection at the Capital, the Me Too movement, BLM are developmentally in their adolescence and young in their process The School of Lost Borders Wilderness Vision Quests "We don't go out into the woods to find ourselves or discover new parts of ourselves or become a new person. We go out to be with who we already are." Psychiatric drugs and the risks and disfunction in our current medical system Men's Work Making Messes and cleaning them up skillfully - rather than being a people pleaser or a yes man or trying to be nice all the time Black Mirror episode where someone can be 'canceled' and literally disappear from the perception of all the other people around them, effectively being exiled from humanity itself. Learn more about Jeff at: A State of Mind Podcast: A State of Mind Counseling: support the show:
February 18, 2021
#70 - Brain Health & Preventing Dementia, Alzheimer's and Strokes with Dr Robert Love
Julian sits down with Dr. Love for the second part of their conversation.    0:00- 5:07 Introduction   Topics:  - Alzheimers   - Story of my grandmother   - Paranoia    - Declining Life Expectancy in the USA   - How counties that experienced declining life expectancy overwhelmingly supported Trump in 2016   - Why he got inspired around issues of brain health, dementia and Alzheimer's    - His two grandparents who had dementia   - Strokes  - How diabetes, cholesterol, heart issues put you at greater risk for strokes   - The crucial role of diet   - How he made a healthy chocolate that is great for the brain   - Why you don't feel full after eating a twinkie   - Problems with diet sodas   - Importance of fiber   - Dealing with confusing and conflicting dietary advice  - Chronic inflammation that can come from diet   A State of Mind Podcast:    A State of Mind Counseling:    support the show:
February 18, 2021
#69 - Jordan Peterson and the Culture Wars with Dr. Love
Julian and Dr. Love sit down to discuss Jordan Peterson, the culture wars and more. Part 1 of 2 Dr. Love has a PhD in psychology and he is a master chocolate maker, making chocolate that is good for your health 0:00 - 3:36min Intro 3:36min Conversation with Dr. Love Topics covered: JP Controversy Tribalism Gender and trans-gender issues Problems with the news media How in the Age of Information we need to make conscious and good choices about what information to take in and give our attention to Drug Policy Problems with our political system Issues with social media and cell phone addiction What is success - problems with our narrow cultural views of 'success' Appreciating how much wealth we have as a society A State of Mind Podcast: A State of Mind Counseling: support the show:
February 13, 2021
#67 - Social Media & Smartphone Addiction: The Power of Looking Within - Part 2 with Craig Salerno, LPC
Julian and Craig discuss social media and smart phone use from the perspective of addictions. This is part two of our conversation. Topics in order 0-7:00 - Intro 7:00 - Conversation with Craig Cell phone addiction Social Dilemma documentary Craigs view that the recovering addicts are the wisdom holders here Julian's dream of tentacles from iPhone into my head the night he had an iPhone for the first time Definitions of mind being beyond limits of physical body- existing in relationships. Dan Siegal's definition of mind. Moving Internally to work with this issue rather than external regulation What we are up against - how our capitalist system preys on our addictions - and incentivizes consumption and addiction The role of Intention and the limits of our Will Power and Desire in stopping and Addiction No evidence that intention and desire, excitement and enthusiasm correlates to success in stopping an addiction The ways in which Social Media can begin to seem more 'real' than real life What are the unmet needs that an addiction seems to be or is meeting The role of Core emotional needs Sense of pervasive emptiness in our culture Phenomena of looking up people through social media, like your ex's current partner The need to be careful with what information we are taking in How to work with impulse to an addictive habit such as checking your phone Learn more about Craig Salerno: A State of Mind Podcast website: Learn more about Julian at A State of Mind Counseling: support the show:
January 29, 2021
#66 - Psychedelic Therapy, Addictions and More - with Craig Salerno, Part 1
Julian sits down with Craig Salerno, MA, LPC, LAC - they discuss Psychedelic- assisted therapy, Ketamine Therapy, Addictions and more. Learn more about Craig at Notes Sharing listener comments and discussing previous episode 3:45 Introduction to this episode 7:38 Conversation with Craig Salerno begins Craig's early start to his career in therapy Addictions and Psychedelics - the stigma, and issues around offering a 'drug' to a 'drug addict' Craig defines addiction as using a substance to check out and Psychedelic therapy as using a substance to help go within How Craig as a therapist determines if someone's relationship with a substance is problematic /addictive or not Moving from the old school AA model of either addicted or sober to a more nuanced understanding that includes responsible use. Transcending identification as an addict Many people relapse at the 6 month mark Bill, found of AA, had a profound spiritual experience with LSD and wanted to share it in all AA meetings Finding a Middle Way with Psychedelics as part of the maturing of our culture. Psychedelic Integration Therapy Stigma around Ketamine and advantages to it's use in psychotherapy Ketamine has been shown to be very effective in helping with treatment resistant depression Puritanism and the cultural suspicion of anything that brings pleasure or joy in our Culture How Ketamine as a dissociative can help with depression and to bring insight and psychological well being in general How Ketamine assisted psycho-therapy can help with Addiction issues Cannabis - how it is a bit of a 'trickster' How many people have a 'never ending ambivalent relationship with cannabis' Criticizing the pharmaceutical industry and psychiatric model to treating mental health That Psychedelics are Not dose dependent "Psychedelic FOMO" The trap of 'always working on myself' Importance of Initiation How Psychedelics can play an initiatory role and how we need elders to hold and guide us in this process - and how this can be a process of cross generational healing. How the original teachings from the historical Buddha are all about addiction Addiction as a spectrum that we are all on Stats on Addictions: A State of Mind Podcast website: Learn more about Julian at A State of Mind Counseling: support the show:
January 19, 2021
#65 - Unusually Hardcore Dharma with Daniel M. Ingram
Julian sits down with the Arahant Daniel M. Ingram in this far ranging discussion of Meditation and the possible highs and lows, including things like experiencing a 'dark night of the soul.' Daneil is the author of the book Mastering the Core Teachings of the Buddha: An Unusually Hardcore Dharma Book 0:00-4:43 Housekeeping, Julian shares about his recent solo meditation retreat 4:43-10:15: Intro to Conversation with Daniel 10:35- 2:08 - Conversation with Daniel Ingram We discuss the following topics: Daniel's work to research meditation for mainstream psychology and modern medical science The risks of idealizing a single Guru and basing your entire path on one person Julian shares a bit about my practicing with Reggie Ray and my appreciation and also disagreement with his teachings The possibility of real transmission and the real value of authentic lineage The phenomena and practice of magic and the importance of being able to shift between different contexts and ways of understanding The ways in which practices such as sending out healing light can actually be helping others beyond our own personal imagination and experience Daniel recommends the following books: The Power of 8, The Intention Experiment, Real Magic The power of opening up to healing and blessings from divinities Daniel's thoughts on past and future lives Amazing story of Daniel interviewing a patient who had multiple near death experiences due to being one of the first people to receive a pacemaker. And his descriptions of his near death experiences are fascinating. The sadly pervasive afflictions of self directed negativity, negative self talk, and poor self esteem Daniel personally saw pediatric emergency hospitalization cases double because of social media - kids presenting in psychiatric crisis due to social media's influence The pervasive and deluded sense of 'you need to do this in order to be ok as you are' Music and Meditation The importance of Effortlessness in the realization of our true authentic nature The Possibility of millions of people learning basic mindfulness and meditation techniques that could lead to seeing through the false self on a vast, societal wide scale. This is both Utopian thinking and very possible. How the Modern Mindfulness movement ignored the extreme Highs (such as the possibility of awakening)  as well as the Lows of Meditation practice (things like the 'dark night of the soul') in order to sell the mushy middle. What it takes to genuinely scale this in a repsonsible, honest way. EPRC (Emergent Phenomenology Research Consortium) Julian shares about his experience working in the mental health field and people who have had psychotic breaks at least in part form things like fasting and meditation Links: Daniel Ingram: EPRC (Emergent Phenomenology Research Consortium
January 11, 2021
#64 - Sex, Power and Stages of Growth - with Kevin McKeag
Kevin McKeag returns to the podcast; Julian and him discuss the need for a healthy positive vision of masculinity and what that could look like. They talk again about power and hierarchy and the difference between dominator hierarchies and growth hierarchies and how we cannot escape making value judgements about integral theory and stages of human development, meditation, what " ego " means and how to understand and work with our sense of self And then Kevin shares with us about Taoist sexual yoga practices and how they have helped him - and he shares some practical tips to start cultivating your own sexual energy and using this to power your own development, creativity and giving your gifts to the world. List of Names and Resources mentioned: Ken Wilber Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche David Deida Mantak Chia John Gray Jordan Peterson Susanne Cook-Greuter Terri O'Fallon Dr. Nida Chenagtsang and Ben Joffe, Ph.D. , The Yoga of Bliss Power vs. Force by  David R. Hawkins M.D. Ph.D Learn more about Kevin and his work at: A State of Mind podcast website: Learn more about Julian at A State of Mind Counseling: support the show:
December 13, 2020
#63 - Looking at 2020 from the Front Porch - with Stephan VanNortwick
Julian and Stephen take a look back at 2020, discussing the pandemic and the various protest movements that Stephen has witnessed from his front porch every weekend since April 15, 2020. Julian shares about his former days as a journalist and some of his thoughts on the state of things. Learn more about Julian at support the show:
December 7, 2020
#62: Express Yourself - with Monalicious
Mona (Monalicious) and Julian discuss self expression, community building, perseverance, and how playing Dungeons and Dragons can help you to get more creative. Mona shares about her work teaching high school classes on audio production and creative empowerment in the Denver area. About Mona: Mona (Monalicious) is a musical momma, video queen and community leader from Denver, CO. As a songwriter she balances humility with majesty.  As a native to Denver, she has grown with the city and has flourished in the arts community through her music and leadership. Mona is the founder and executive producer of a local community media organization called FreeMusicForFreePeople (FM4FP), also known as FreePeopleTV and Free People Records. FM4FP hosts immersive and creative events with the goal of fostering community. FM4FP established their video branch as FreePeopleTV and currently has several video series showcasing Denver music culture. For more info about their upcoming events and latest videos, go to their website - Beyond Mona’s community efforts through FM4FP, she has been involved with many local projects and currently co-organizes for one of Denver’s music industry meet-ups called Balanced Breakfast (BB). BB is an international networking organization that strives to foster community in local and national music scenes. Mona is a Teaching Artist and Lead Program Coordinator at Youth On Record (YOR) , a nationally recognized non-profit organization that brings artistic opportunity to underserved youth. Mona teaches Audio Production to Denver high school students along with her involvement in YOR’s girls club FEMpowered.
November 27, 2020
#61- Getting Witchy
Julian has two guests on for the first time. Samuel McCabe is a ceremonial magician and Lisa Jane is a pagan green anarchist who has been working with Julian to create the Boulder chapter of the Psychedelic Sangha and to host Integration Circles for our growing community. In this conversation, Samuel, Julian and Lisa Jane discuss the history of magic and the occult, similarities between Western Occultism and Esoteric or Tantric Buddhism and the role of compassion and ethics in spiritual practice, as well as ways of understanding what makes something Buddhist practice or not, such as the fundamental role of compassion, wisdom into the true nature of mind and phenomena and awakening, or enlightenment. About Samuel - Samuel McCabe is a visual artist, ceremonial magician and tarot reader. He lives in Denver, Colorado with his wife, Elizabeth and cat, Venus. He reads tarot and teaches courses on magic at Ritualcravt, also in Denver. You can find him on Patreon at: . Thanks again, Julian. It was a pleasure meeting you and recording the podcast. About Lisa Jane - Lisa Jane is a multi-media visual artist, poet, pagan, green anarchist, occasional film programmer & journalist, and community radio host.  She also co-facilitates a Boulder psychedelic integration circle with A State of Mind podcast host, Julian Royce. Some book recommendations: Waking the Witch: Reflections on Women, Magic, and Power by Pam Grossman Pagan Anarchism by Christopher Scott Thompson Consciousness Medicine by  Françoise Bourzat & Kristina Hunter The Brazen Vessel by Peter Grey & Alkistis Dimech Cosmic Trigger by Robert Anton Wilson The Book of Lies:  The Disinformation Guide to Magick and the Occult by Richard Metzger, Grant Morrison, ect. Thee Psychick Bible by Genesis Breyer P-Orridge Psychedelic Sangha: Message us at to learn more and if you are interested in joining our online Integration Circle, held on the first Thursday of every month at 6pm Mountain time Support the show:
November 1, 2020
#60 Ranked Choice Voting: A (much) Better Way to Vote
Julian discusses Ranked Choice Voting with Matt Benjamin, who ran for public office only to see his campaign and all the votes he garnered turn into a 'spoiler', ironically helping elect the candidate with which he had the least in common. This experience propelled him to look at how our voting system works and to advocate for a better system, which is Ranked Choice Voting. Julian wanted to have this conversation because he has been passionate about Ranked Choice Voting since learning about it 20 or so years ago after the 2000 Election was effectively decided (i.e. stolen) by the Supreme Court. About Matt: Matt Benjamin has lived in Boulder for 20 years with his wife and 2 kids. He holds a degree in Astrophysics from the University of Colorado.  Matt ran for Boulder City Council in 2017, then was the Executive Director of The Coalition in 2019. He also served on the City's Campaign Finance and Election Reform Working Group in 2018.  Matt is currently the Campaign Chair for the "Our Mayor-Our Choice" ballot measure in Boulder, Colorado. He is also on the Board of Directors for three non-profit organizations, the Boulder Open Space Conservancy, Growe Foundation and the Idaho Conservation League. Instagram: ourmayorourchoice2020 National Ranked Choice Voting Organization: Colorado RCV: Wikipedia on Gore v Bush:
October 21, 2020
#59 - Fascism and the Future of Democracy with Theo Horesh
Theo Horesh joins Julian for a discussion of his new book The Fascism This Time: and the Global Future of Democracy. They discuss Trump and the wave of right wing leaders who have taken power across the globe and how this relates to human development individually and collectively. And they discuss why such a reaction seemingly against globalism is taking place, even as our world becomes more and more interconnected and our mutual cooperation is more essential than ever before in order to face the global challenges confronting us, including Climate Change, Coronavirus and human rights. About Theo: Theo Horesh is a human rights advocate and public intellectual, who has written hundreds of articles on genocide, climate change, fascism, and democracy. Theo is also a long time meditator and student of philosophy. He is the founder of the Trident Philosophy Gang, an open circle of thinkers, and host of Conscious Business, a series of critical dialogues, chosen by Business Insider as one of 100 podcasts that will make you smarter. He is the author of four books on the psychosocial dynamics of globalization, including Convergence: The Globalization of Mind and his most recent, The Fascism This Time: and the Global Future of Democracy. And he is a political philosopher, currently completing his PhD, focused on cosmopolitan ethics, at the University of Leeds. Learn more about Theo at:
October 7, 2020
#58- Ratu Bagus: The Trauma of Spiritual Abuse with Samantha Emmitt
Samantha Emmitt shares about her life and journey as a spiritual seeker and her time in the spiritual community of the teacher Ratu Bagus in Bali. She courageously shares her story of sexual abuse at the hands of the 'guru' and her journey to healing and wholeness since leaving that community. Instagram: Facebook: Support this show:
September 25, 2020
#57 - The Emerging Field of Psychedelic Assisted Therapy with Aviva Bannerman, MA, LPC
Episode #57 - A State of Mind - Julian and Aviva discuss the emerging field of psychedelic assisted therapy. We talk about Aviva's calling to be a therapist and healer, her travels around the world and how she discovered the world of psychedelic assisted therapy while in graduate school And we talk about the kinds of things that psychedelic assisted therapy can help with, What healing means in the context of psychology How important the set and setting and how powerful the intention and context is when introducing a substance like ketamine or cannabis in a therapy session. Some of the legal challenges and some perspectives on the disaster that the so called war on drugs has been for our society. Learn more about Aviva at Email: Show Notes and more info: Support the Show at
September 15, 2020
#56: Consciousness and Healing Arts with Alec Brogan, DC
Julian is joined by Alec Brogan, DC. They discuss his work as a Doctor of Chiropractic and Alec's work which he is calling 'the Geometry of Grace' which brings together his deep study of astrology and Human Design. They also talk about alignment, ancestral or lineage healing, the deeper meanings of 'self regulation' and the vital importance of co-creating a positive, empowered vision of masculinity in today's world.  Learn more about Alec's work at
September 2, 2020
#55 - Authentic Relating: Conflict=Energy with Jason Digges
Julian and Jason Digges discuss Authentic Relating, what it is and how to bring more authenticity and greater connection to our lives. They discuss bringing Authentic Relating to jails, how it can help heal us individually and collectively,  and some of the history of this movement and how it relates to schools of psychology such Humanistic and Transpersonal Psychology. About Jason Digges: He is the Co-founder of Authentic Relating Training (ART) International and the Author of Conflict = Energy: The Transformative Practice of Authentic Relating. Jason Digges is a modern renaissance man: Equal parts artist, philosopher, teacher, and video producer. From 2003-2012 he worked for Ken Wilber and other clients to create thousands of hours of educational media on the topics of transpersonal psychology, spirituality, productivity, and personal growth. For the past 4 years he has been a trainer and facilitator for groups within the authentic relating and circling realm and is obsessed with how humans can live and relate optimally. Links: Conflict = Energy webpage: Authentic Relating Training International: Facebook: Instagram: @jaydigges On Fear of Public Speaking:
August 15, 2020
#54 - The Bardos of Life - with Olivia Sophie Franzen
Olivia recently graduated with a Masters in Religious Studies from Naropa University and she did her final Thesis project on the so called 'Tibetan Book of the Dead' and the Bardo teachings, which refers to the stages one is said to go through in the dying and rebirth process. We also talk about Self and Selflessness and the different teachings on this given in the different levels of Buddhist teachings Early Christianity and the possibility that Jesus had been to India We talk about Tantra and the importance of honoring your own lived embodied experience We talk about the different deities and the Dakinis or feminine wisdom beings Issues of pluralism and inclusivity and universality in discussing religion or spirituality in general and other issues around being " spiritual but not religious" More about Olivia and her Thai Yoga Massage work here: Links to "Spiritual but not Religious: Quote of the day "Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind. —Albert Einstein"
August 10, 2020
#53- Psychedelic & Ketamine Assisted Psychotherapies - with Pierre Bouchard, LPC
In our conversation today, we talk about meditation, and issues that can arise when we separate ourselves from our experience, which I would say is a mistake one can make in meditation; however it is important to define one's terms carefully. In this context that would include terms such as consciousness, awareness and 'the witness'. Ketamine and Pierre's work with Ketamine Assisted Psychotherapy The definition of addiction Trauma and the  importance of working with the body - how being in touch with our somatic      embodied experience is important and how rediscovering the truths held in      our body and experiencing them with a skilled therapist can begin to heal      the continuing effects of traumatic experiencesHow using Ketamine skillfully can assist this process, in part through deeper levels of embodied relaxation The difference between therapy that uses strong psychedelic doses and Psycholytic therapy Psychedelic therapy is when you take a large amount of a psychedelic to hav a full blown experience. This can be very revelatory but it can also be over whelming. Psycholytic Therapy on the  other hand utilizes a smaller amount of a psychedelic substance, so that       one is able to stay in connection and communication with the therapist and process what comes up for you. And I have a new favorite quote that came from todays conversation: ‘We must always be willing to do the next most necessary thing’ Carl Jung Pierre is a Licensed Professional Counselor doing Somatic Psychedelic Psychotherapy with Ketamine. support the show:
August 5, 2020
#52 - The State of Things with EDWORD
Julian and EDWORD discuss  - the Black Lives Matter movement and the lack of leadership and failure in messaging - The downsides of political correctness - Some of the self serving and alarmist rhetoric of the intellectual dark web - Observations about white progressive activists and some of the shadow dynamics at play in disavowing leadership and hierarchies - The importance of having dignity and self respect - And Julian mentions a book called the Meritocracy Trap by Daniel Merkovitz; an economist at Yale University
July 29, 2020
Music & Meditation: Mindful Rhythm with Andrew Forbes
Andrew Forbes and Julian discuss meditation and it's connection with music as well as Andrew's upcoming book Mindful Rhythm and stories from Andrew's life as a traveling musician.  Mindful Rhythm™ and Mindfulness of Rhythm™ are owned and used exclusively by Andrew Forbes. Any permissive use of these terms for business purposes must be granted in writing by the owner of these trademarks. All rights reserved. Media and recordings by Andrew Forbes can be heard in the following links: Recordings can also be heard on iTunes, Apple Music, Youtube, Spotify, Tidal and more. Distribution by Distrokid, courtesy of Pirate Octopus Records. Monlochy Bridge Traditional. 2018. Hurricane Irene (Remix) By Andrew Forbes. 2016 Amazing Grace, Traditional. 2019
July 21, 2020
Moving Forward in a time of Outrage with EdWord Galan
Edward joins Julian Royce on A State of Mind to discuss the worldwide eruption of protests following the death of George Floyd, thoughts on race and racism and the greater social justice movement, and the prevalence of conspiracy thinking.
June 10, 2020
Our Need for Empathy with Apollo Love
Apollo Love joins A State of Mind podcast for a far ranging conversation on the current protests arising from the death of George Floyd and how training and practicing empathy is not only possible but needed. They discuss the rise of conspiracy thinking and how to talk with friends and family who hold different perspectives on challenging topics.  Apollo has given a TED talk on how empathy training can stop school shootings & violence and has taught Empathy training workshops around the country. He helped organize the March for Our Lives protest in Oakland, California, which was an entirely peaceful protest that brought in meditation teachers who lead the staff in meditation before the event began. He was also a star on the reality TV shows The Glass House, MTV's True Life, and has appeared on PBS and NPR as well. show notes and more at support A State of Mind at
June 3, 2020
Quarantine freestyle flows with the Al*chemist Duncan Horst
Duncan had a career in the world of NYC finance before stepping away from it at the start of 2020. He has founded the Creative Cauldron, an event/ party that brings together artists, musicians and poets - and invites the creativity of everyone to...
May 19, 2020
The Yoga of Bliss: Sexuality in Tibetan Buddhism with Dr. Ben Joffe
Dr. Ben Joffe and Julian discuss the book Karmamudra: The Yoga of Bliss: Sexuality in Tibetan Medicine and Buddhism by Dr. Nida Chenagtsang, edited and translated by Ben Joffe, and other topics related to Vajrayana or tantric Buddhism and Vajrayana...
May 8, 2020
Wild Heart: Reconnecting with Wilderness featuring Michael Gay, MA
Michael and Julian discuss the effects of the Coronavirus Pandemic on our mental health and relationships, how our contemporary society contributes to alienating us from our natural evolved ways of being, the role of psychedelics in therapy, and much...
April 30, 2020
#45 - Meditation and Medicine: Healing Power, Transcultural Spirituality, Universal Love as the Path of Awakening
Dr. Rien Havens discusses stages of human development in relation to the stages of awakening described in Mahayana Buddhist teachings on the path of the bodhisattva. A bodhisattva is someone who has dedicated themselves to awakening for the benefit of...
April 23, 2020
Traditional Tibetan Medicine &The Descent of Corona with Erik Jampa, Tibetan Medicine Practitioner
Erik and Julian discuss Coronavirus, traditional Buddhist, Tibetan and Indigenous understandings of virus, disease and karma, why the popular notion of 'free will' is completely illusory, and the deficiencies in our exponential growth pseudo-capitalist...
April 20, 2020
Meanings of Yoga with Ben Williams, PhD
Ben Williams earned his Ph.D. in South Asian Studies from Harvard University. He is currently doing translation and research in multiple areas related to the history of Yoga and Tantra. His dissertation is on the great Tantrik master and polymath...
April 16, 2020
Staying Sane in the Quarantine with visionary artist Steven Newman
Steven and Julian discuss the Coronavirus pandemic, the failures of our political, economic and health systems to adequately address it, the meaning of money and of systems built on the need for constant exponential growth, the symbolism and psychology...
April 8, 2020
Homelessness & the Coronavirus Crisis with Sammie Leon Lawrence IV
Sammie returns to A State of Mind to discuss the crisis of homelessness in the times of the Coronavirus crisis and other pressing political concerns.SAFE: Safe Access For Everyone https://safeaccessusa.comTreatment of Asians during WWII:...
April 4, 2020
A Guided Meditation for the Coronavirus Pandemic
Julian offers a guided meditation to help work with the difficulties and challenges we are facing during the Coronavirus Pandemic. Learn more about Julian at
March 26, 2020
The Coronavirus Pandemic with Dr. Trevor Royce
Julian and Trevor discuss the on going Coronavirus pandemic; Trevor shares the latest research and facts, the protocols being adopted at the UNC Chapel Hill Medical Research Hospital, and what to do if you or a loved one becomes infected. Straight talk...
March 17, 2020
Visionary Plant Spirit Medicine with Kuthoomi
Julian and Kuthoomi discuss plant spirit medicine and psychedelics in the context of the traditions form which they came as well as the contemporary context and the phenomena of 'new age shamans.' Kuthoomi shares about his life, his training and the...
March 16, 2020
#36- Buddha Bomb: Spontaneous InterConnectivity
Buddha Bomb - aka James Jobson - shares with us some of his life, inspiration and wisdom. Buddha Bomb is an artist, poet, and DJ. He is also a long time meditator. He helps host Sleepless Nights, a show on the KGNU radio station. He plays at Ecstatic...
February 26, 2020
Mycology and Wild Foraging with Stephen Vannortwick
Stephen and Julian discuss mycology, wild foraging, being an artist and the inter-connected nature of all things.
February 18, 2020
Spiritual emergencies & a broken mental health care system- with Integral coach Chris Emerson
Chris shares some of his own journey with mental health and his work to help people grow and even awaken through spiritual emergencies; "spiritual emergencies" is an idea developed by the famous psychiatrist Stanilov Grof and sees that a 'break down'...
February 11, 2020
Mess O'Shambhala pt3: Carol Merchasin, Investigative Lawyer
Carol Merchasin has been one of the principal investigators into allegations of abuse in the Shambhala Buddhist organization. She is a retired lawyer who has devoted over 500 hours of her time pro bono to this investigation and to talking with the victims and attempting to collaborate their stories and has released several statements about Shambhala, the scandal and contributed to the Buddhist Project Sunshine reports on it.
January 26, 2020
Mess O'Shambhala: Responding to Scandal with Melanie Klein
Here is the re-publishing of the original podcast featuring an in-depth conversation with the director of the Boulder Shambhala Center and the efforts she and this local center have been making to respond to the scandals that have rocked the Shambhala...
January 6, 2020
#31 - Integral Centered - with Robert MacNaughton
In depth conversation with Robert MacNaughton. Robert was the director and founder of the Integral Center in Boulder, Colorado and has taught and developed the interpersonal meditation practice of Circling. In this far ranging conversation, Julian and Robert discuss our post modern age and the giant 'religion sized hole' in our collective psyche, the dignities and disasters of our postmodern age, what the practice of Circling is and how it is an integral practice of relating, the challenges and rewards of being the director of the Integral Center over the last decade, the problems that come with over emphasis on deconstruction, and a refreshing note of optimism for the future of humanity and our planet EARTH.
December 18, 2019
#30 - Adventures in Medical Science with Radiation Oncologist Dr. Trevor Royce
In depth conversation featuring Julian's brother, Dr. Trevor Royce. Trevor is a radiation oncologist specializing in genitourinary malignancies (e.g. prostate and bladder cancer) and breast cancer. He discusses the ups and downs of medical school, what cancer actually is, the latest research on cancer, and his own speciality of Radiation Oncology, where he treats cancer patients with highly concentrated and focused radiation. They also discuss the problems and issues in our medical system and the reasons why costs are so high. They discuss how having a profit motive driving our health care system leads to fundamental underlying issues in the quality of care and in the ability of our system to provide preventive, holistic care.
November 25, 2019
#29 Herbal Medicine: Heart, Mind & Planet with Brigitte Mars
Julian and Brigitte discuss plants, herbal medicines, nutrition and the immense connection between diet and mental health. Brigitte shares about her life long love of plants and herbs and her inspiring work to make positive changes for the health of our planet.
November 17, 2019
#28: Finding Common Ground with Scott Tusa: part 2
Julian and Scott discuss relative truth, how to establish if something is true in the context of 'fake news' and 'alternative facts.' They discuss the teacher -student relationship on one's spiritual path in the context of all the scandals currently afflicting spiritual communities often due to absues from the "guru" and Scott shares his experience of working closely with a spiritual teacher, which has been a positive relationship in his own life. They also talk about race and some other challenging topics.
November 7, 2019
#27: Zen, Kung Fu and Post-Modern Spirituality with Keith Martin-Smith
Keith discusses how he found meditation and shares about his path with Tibetan and Zen Buddhism. Keith highlights the importance of adult psychological development and the potential pit falls and dangers of not doing psychological work along with one's practice of meditation. Keith is a Kung Fu teacher as well as an ordained Zen priest and sensei and is the author of several award winning books and has been an active member in the Integral Theory community of Ken Wilber.
October 27, 2019
#26: Mindfulness on a Global Scale with Kelly Boys
Julian and Kelly discuss her book The Blindspot Effect: How to Stop Missing What's Right in Front of You along with different approaches to Mindfulness practice and using mindfulness to work with trauma. Kelly shares about her work with the U.N. and her experiences visiting refuge camps in the Middle East and her experience with the Prison Yoga Project where she worked with inmates serving long sentences, sometimes life sentences. Kelly also helped develop Search Inside Yourself, a mindfulness and emotional intelligence training program pioneered at Google and now taught around the world.
October 18, 2019
#25: 9 Years as a Buddhist Monk: Scott Tusa
Julian and Scott discuss Scott's life and journey with meditation and his being ordained as a monk by the Dalai Lama. After 9 years he decided to no longer be a monk in the formal sense and has been exploring relationships and paths of healing while he continues to teach meditation and guide people on their path. We discuss the role of psychological work and relationships have in the context of meditation and differences between pre-modern world and our contemporary society and the question of Evolution and "Progress" and what that can mean both for the individual and for our society at large.
October 16, 2019
#24 Adventures in America with Sammie Leon Lawrence IV
In depth conversation with Sammie Leon Lawrence IV in which he discussed growing up in a mixed race household, his experience being homeless and working his way to stability and his experience suffering a traumatic brain injury from an accident at his job. He shares some thoughts on race and racism in America, including a recent incident of white students at the University of Colorado Fort Collins dressing up in Blackface.
September 26, 2019
Facing Challenges with Grace: in-depth conversation with Judith Simmer-Brown, Ph. D
Judith Simmer-Brown, Ph. D is a Distinguished Professor of Contemplative and Religious Studies at Naropa University and one of the senior most meditation teachers in the Shambhala Buddhist organization. Judith and Julian discuss the scandal and allegations involving 'the Sakyong', who has been the leader of Shambhala for many years. Judith shares about her life long journey with meditation and spirituality and her work in higher education to bring contemplative practices and mindfulness to universities and schools across the world.
September 19, 2019
#22 The Possibility of Collapse with Daniel Thorson
Julian and Daniel discuss mindfulness, meditation and technologies of transformation in the face of climate change and other threats to our collective survival. Daniel is a long time meditator, host of the Emerge Podcast and current resident at the Monastic Academy
September 9, 2019
#21 Cryptocurrencies, Free State Project and Gold: Part 2 with Steven RA Johnson
Steven shares knowledge and insights about cryptocurrencies and the state of our economy as well as his experience with the Free State Project and other experiences with activism.
September 5, 2019
#20 Buddha Lands in Crestone with Steven RA Johnson
Steven Johnson is a long time meditator, scholar and translator from Tibetan to English. We discuss the unique history of Crestone, Colorado, a small mountain town which currently has over 40 spiritual retreat centers in the mountains around it and which has long been sacred to the Indigenous peoples. Steven shares with us a few poetic translations as well
September 4, 2019
Radical Happiness with Erric Solomon
Erric and Julian have an in depth discussion about happiness, it's causes and the role that meditation and mindfulness practices can play in cultivating genuine happiness for ourselves and those in our lives.
September 2, 2019
Reflecting on Dharma with Dr. Phil Stanley
Dr. Phil and Julian discuss Buddhist philosophy and some practical applications of it to our lives today
August 26, 2019
Tiny Temples & Natural Building with Corwin Mandel
Corwin Mandel and Julian discuss natural building and tiny homes; Corwin describes creating inspirational living spaces that are living works of art, which he calls Tiny Temples.
August 18, 2019
Paths of Soul, Dance & Embodiment with Amber Ryan: The 360 Emergence
In depth conversation with Amber Ryan, an international movement-meditation teacher and DJ and co-founder of The 360 Emergence along with Kate Shela
August 13, 2019
The Nitty Gritty with Naropa University President Chuck Lief
Naropa University President Chuck Lief discussing the history and legacy of Naropa as a foundational piece in the contemporary mindfulness movement and one of the first places that mindfulness was taught in a secular, systematic way while at the same time being deeply informed by contemplative traditions, especially Indo-Tibetan Buddhist traditions. We discuss the controversial legacy of the schools founder, Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, and stories from his life and the early days of the school. Chuck shares about his life's work as a lawyer and activist and sone surprising reasons for the high cost of university education in the USA today.
July 18, 2019
The Art of Dialogue and the Way of Peacemaking: Your Electric Servant(s)
Recorded Live at the Sonic Bloom transformational festival, this is a conversation with your Electric Servant about his work as a peace maker in Israel and the Middle East and how the Art of Dialogue can deepen connections, understanding and contribute to real, lasting peace on this earth and presumably, for those who so believe, in the glory of everlasting after life on the pink clouds of a place called heaven.
July 11, 2019
Somebody or Nobody? with Mr. Ryan Nobody
Recorded live at Sonic Bloom transformational festival, Julian Ocean speaks with multi instrumentalist musician Ryan Nobody about his creative process and life, about building an earth ship in the desert outside Taos, New Mexico and the influence of Eastern philosophy on his life and work.
July 9, 2019
The Light and Dark with Leslie Rogers
In depth and provocative conversation with Leslie Rogers, co-founder of the Light Dark Institute; He teaches and facilitates experiences on how to embrace the parts of ourselves and the world that we deny or have rejected for greater power and freedom.
June 26, 2019
Fest Medical, Integrated Healing and the Permaculture of Relationships
Talking with Joel Roth Davis, founder of Festival Medical, a non-profit organization which brings integrated medical care to festivals. Three elements of integrated healing are emphasized: Emergency Response, Alternative Healing and Harm Reduction. We discuss the US medical system and how this could be a model of more holistic community centered care. We discuss the meaning of Harm Reduction. Joel then shares with us a provocative view of relationships, using principles of Permaculture and applying them to our own eco system of relationships. We discuss different styles of relationships and that some people may well be polyamorous by nature while others are more naturally monogamous. Joel discusses this in the context of six basic human needs: Certainty/Comfort, Uncertainty / Variety, Significance, Love and Connection, Growth, Contribution.
June 15, 2019
Relational Mindfulness with Nicole Reavy, MA
Nicole Reavy, MA. shares with us about her life and how she came to be so passionate about the healing work she is doing today around intimacy, communication and embodiment.
June 13, 2019
Love and Power: Why It Matters
Intimate conversation with Kevin McKeag, a musician, writer and life coach; he shares with us his journey with meditation and experience with different healing modalities as well as his work as a personal coach and meditation instructor.
June 7, 2019
Journeys in Therapy and Healing with Dan Michels
In depth conversation with Dan Michels, MA, a Hakomi and PACT trained psychotherapist.
May 25, 2019
Dr. Travis Cox: the Philosophy of Sustainability
In-depth conversation about the philosophical underpinnings necessary for true sustainability and the shift that our culture needs to take to become sustainable
May 24, 2019
Dr. Ananya: Sacred Sexuality, scandal and liberation
Dr. Ananya discusses her journey with sacred sexuality, her career arc from Ph.D. bio-chemists to integrated sexuality coach, and what an ethics of consent could look like.
May 16, 2019
Steven Newman: Meditation and the Creative Process
We discuss the role of meditation and yoga and psychedelics in Steven's creative process, sacred geometry, and differences in traditional Eastern art forms and contemporary and Western art traditions.
May 15, 2019
Reverend Freakchild: music, addiction and a path through
The life and music of the Reverend Freakchild, his journey with addiction and finding the path of meditation.
May 14, 2019
Christopher Sunyata: The Yoga of Intimate Relationship
In-depth conversation about sexual yoga and the 'yoga of intimacy', relationship and sexuality as a spiritual path, embodied meditation, the importance of orgasm and how to expand it in time and throughout one's entire body.
May 10, 2019
Carla Clements, Ph. D, transpersonal & psychedelic assisted therapies
In-depth conversation with Dr. Clements on psychedelic assisted therapy and research, ecology and transpersonal psychology.
May 5, 2019