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A State of Mind

A State of Mind

By Julian Ocean
We feature provocative, in depth conversations with people on topics they are passionate about and want to share with the world. Themes of the podcast include meditation and mindfulness, non-dual spirituality, psychedelics, psychology, ecology and sustainability and eudomainia or genuine happiness, in general how to co-create a more loving and thriving world. Guests so far include authors, professors, therapists, mindfulness meditation and dharma teachers, visionary artists, philosophers and other thinkers. I am deeply looking forward to sharing these conversations with you.
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#58- Ratu Bagus: The Trauma of Spiritual Abuse with Samantha Emmitt
Samantha Emmitt shares about her life and journey as a spiritual seeker and her time in the spiritual community of the teacher Ratu Bagus in Bali. She courageously shares her story of sexual abuse at the hands of the 'guru' and her journey to healing and wholeness since leaving that community. Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sparrow.songweaving/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/samantha.emmity Support this show: www.patreon.com/asstateofmind
1:16:35
September 25, 2020
#57 - The Emerging Field of Psychedelic Assisted Therapy with Aviva Bannerman, MA, LPC
Episode #57 - A State of Mind - Julian and Aviva discuss the emerging field of psychedelic assisted therapy. We talk about Aviva's calling to be a therapist and healer, her travels around the world and how she discovered the world of psychedelic assisted therapy while in graduate school And we talk about the kinds of things that psychedelic assisted therapy can help with, What healing means in the context of psychology How important the set and setting and how powerful the intention and context is when introducing a substance like ketamine or cannabis in a therapy session. Some of the legal challenges and some perspectives on the disaster that the so called war on drugs has been for our society. Learn more about Aviva at www.Avivabannerman.com Email: info@avivabannerman.com Show Notes and more info: www.astateofmindplay.com Support the Show at www.patreon.com/astateofmind
56:14
September 15, 2020
#56: Consciousness and Healing Arts with Alec Brogan, DC
Julian is joined by Alec Brogan, DC. They discuss his work as a Doctor of Chiropractic and Alec's work which he is calling 'the Geometry of Grace' which brings together his deep study of astrology and Human Design. They also talk about alignment, ancestral or lineage healing, the deeper meanings of 'self regulation' and the vital importance of co-creating a positive, empowered vision of masculinity in today's world.  Learn more about Alec's work at www.LightTimeandSound.mn.co
1:03:02
September 2, 2020
#55 - Authentic Relating: Conflict=Energy with Jason Digges
Julian and Jason Digges discuss Authentic Relating, what it is and how to bring more authenticity and greater connection to our lives. They discuss bringing Authentic Relating to jails, how it can help heal us individually and collectively,  and some of the history of this movement and how it relates to schools of psychology such Humanistic and Transpersonal Psychology. About Jason Digges: He is the Co-founder of Authentic Relating Training (ART) International and the Author of Conflict = Energy: The Transformative Practice of Authentic Relating. Jason Digges is a modern renaissance man: Equal parts artist, philosopher, teacher, and video producer. From 2003-2012 he worked for Ken Wilber and other clients to create thousands of hours of educational media on the topics of transpersonal psychology, spirituality, productivity, and personal growth. For the past 4 years he has been a trainer and facilitator for groups within the authentic relating and circling realm and is obsessed with how humans can live and relate optimally. Links: Conflict = Energy webpage: authenticrelating.co/book Authentic Relating Training International: authenticrelating.co Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jaydigges Instagram: @jaydigges instagram.com/jaydigges On Fear of Public Speaking: https://nationalsocialanxietycenter.com/2017/02/20/public-speaking-and-fear-of-brain-freezes/
55:04
August 15, 2020
#54 - The Bardos of Life - with Olivia Sophie Franzen
Olivia recently graduated with a Masters in Religious Studies from Naropa University and she did her final Thesis project on the so called 'Tibetan Book of the Dead' and the Bardo teachings, which refers to the stages one is said to go through in the dying and rebirth process. We also talk about Self and Selflessness and the different teachings on this given in the different levels of Buddhist teachings Early Christianity and the possibility that Jesus had been to India We talk about Tantra and the importance of honoring your own lived embodied experience We talk about the different deities and the Dakinis or feminine wisdom beings Issues of pluralism and inclusivity and universality in discussing religion or spirituality in general and other issues around being " spiritual but not religious" More about Olivia and her Thai Yoga Massage work here:  https://www.facebook.com/ThaiYogaBodyworkwithOliviaSophie/ Links to "Spiritual but not Religious: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/psychiatry-the-people/201804/spiritual-not-religious-is-associated-depression https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/the-british-journal-of-psychiatry/article/religion-spirituality-and-mental-health-results-from-a-national-study-of-english-households/434CFF0E75402B578ED0149600BF55A4 https://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2013/01/09/the-spiritual-but-not-religious-likely-to-face-mental-health-issues-drug-use-study-says/ Quote of the day "Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind. —Albert Einstein"
1:23:16
August 10, 2020
#53- Psychedelic & Ketamine Assisted Psychotherapies - with Pierre Bouchard, LPC
In our conversation today, we talk about meditation, and issues that can arise when we separate ourselves from our experience, which I would say is a mistake one can make in meditation; however it is important to define one's terms carefully. In this context that would include terms such as consciousness, awareness and 'the witness'. Ketamine and Pierre's work with Ketamine Assisted Psychotherapy The definition of addiction Trauma and the  importance of working with the body - how being in touch with our somatic      embodied experience is important and how rediscovering the truths held in      our body and experiencing them with a skilled therapist can begin to heal      the continuing effects of traumatic experiencesHow using Ketamine skillfully can assist this process, in part through deeper levels of embodied relaxation The difference between therapy that uses strong psychedelic doses and Psycholytic therapy Psychedelic therapy is when you take a large amount of a psychedelic to hav a full blown experience. This can be very revelatory but it can also be over whelming. Psycholytic Therapy on the  other hand utilizes a smaller amount of a psychedelic substance, so that       one is able to stay in connection and communication with the therapist and process what comes up for you. And I have a new favorite quote that came from todays conversation: ‘We must always be willing to do the next most necessary thing’ Carl Jung Pierre is a Licensed Professional Counselor doing Somatic Psychedelic Psychotherapy with Ketamine. https://www.pierrebouchardcounseling.com https://www.instagram.com/pierre.bouchard.lpc/ support the show: www.patreon.com/astateofmind
1:06:59
August 5, 2020
#52 - The State of Things with EDWORD
Julian and EDWORD discuss  - the Black Lives Matter movement and the lack of leadership and failure in messaging - The downsides of political correctness - Some of the self serving and alarmist rhetoric of the intellectual dark web - Observations about white progressive activists and some of the shadow dynamics at play in disavowing leadership and hierarchies - The importance of having dignity and self respect - And Julian mentions a book called the Meritocracy Trap by Daniel Merkovitz; an economist at Yale University
1:11:12
July 29, 2020
Music & Meditation: Mindful Rhythm with Andrew Forbes
Andrew Forbes and Julian discuss meditation and it's connection with music as well as Andrew's upcoming book Mindful Rhythm and stories from Andrew's life as a traveling musician.  Mindful Rhythm™ and Mindfulness of Rhythm™ are owned and used exclusively by Andrew Forbes. Any permissive use of these terms for business purposes must be granted in writing by the owner of these trademarks. All rights reserved. Media and recordings by Andrew Forbes can be heard in the following links: www.scottishoctopus.bandcamp.com www.andrewforbes.bandcamp.com www.ionasession.bandcamp.com www.bagpipebaby.bandcamp.com www.thepiperforbes.com Recordings can also be heard on iTunes, Apple Music, Youtube, Spotify, Tidal and more. Distribution by Distrokid, courtesy of Pirate Octopus Records. Monlochy Bridge Traditional. 2018. Hurricane Irene (Remix) By Andrew Forbes. 2016 Amazing Grace, Traditional. 2019
1:16:37
July 21, 2020
Moving Forward in a time of Outrage with EdWord Galan
Edward joins Julian Royce on A State of Mind to discuss the worldwide eruption of protests following the death of George Floyd, thoughts on race and racism and the greater social justice movement, and the prevalence of conspiracy thinking.
1:20:18
June 10, 2020
Our Need for Empathy with Apollo Love
Apollo Love joins A State of Mind podcast for a far ranging conversation on the current protests arising from the death of George Floyd and how training and practicing empathy is not only possible but needed. They discuss the rise of conspiracy thinking and how to talk with friends and family who hold different perspectives on challenging topics.  Apollo has given a TED talk on how empathy training can stop school shootings & violence and has taught Empathy training workshops around the country. He helped organize the March for Our Lives protest in Oakland, California, which was an entirely peaceful protest that brought in meditation teachers who lead the staff in meditation before the event began. He was also a star on the reality TV shows The Glass House, MTV's True Life, and has appeared on PBS and NPR as well.  www.ApolloPoetry.com www.Policempathy.com show notes and more at www.astateofmindplay.com support A State of Mind at www.patreon.com/astateofmind
1:22:40
June 3, 2020
Quarantine freestyle flows with the Al*chemist Duncan Horst
Duncan had a career in the world of NYC finance before stepping away from it at the start of 2020. He has founded the Creative Cauldron, an event/ party that brings together artists, musicians and poets - and invites the creativity of everyone to...
1:27:27
May 19, 2020
The Yoga of Bliss: Sexuality in Tibetan Buddhism with Dr. Ben Joffe
Dr. Ben Joffe and Julian discuss the book Karmamudra: The Yoga of Bliss: Sexuality in Tibetan Medicine and Buddhism by Dr. Nida Chenagtsang, edited and translated by Ben Joffe, and other topics related to Vajrayana or tantric Buddhism and Vajrayana...
2:17:32
May 8, 2020
Wild Heart: Reconnecting with Wilderness featuring Michael Gay, MA
Michael and Julian discuss the effects of the Coronavirus Pandemic on our mental health and relationships, how our contemporary society contributes to alienating us from our natural evolved ways of being, the role of psychedelics in therapy, and much...
1:06:30
April 30, 2020
#45 - Meditation and Medicine: Healing Power, Transcultural Spirituality, Universal Love as the Path of Awakening
Dr. Rien Havens discusses stages of human development in relation to the stages of awakening described in Mahayana Buddhist teachings on the path of the bodhisattva. A bodhisattva is someone who has dedicated themselves to awakening for the benefit of...
1:29:45
April 23, 2020
Traditional Tibetan Medicine &The Descent of Corona with Erik Jampa, Tibetan Medicine Practitioner
Erik and Julian discuss Coronavirus, traditional Buddhist, Tibetan and Indigenous understandings of virus, disease and karma, why the popular notion of 'free will' is completely illusory, and the deficiencies in our exponential growth pseudo-capitalist...
1:26:27
April 20, 2020
Meanings of Yoga with Ben Williams, PhD
Ben Williams earned his Ph.D. in South Asian Studies from Harvard University. He is currently doing translation and research in multiple areas related to the history of Yoga and Tantra. His dissertation is on the great Tantrik master and polymath...
1:46:01
April 16, 2020
Staying Sane in the Quarantine with visionary artist Steven Newman
Steven and Julian discuss the Coronavirus pandemic, the failures of our political, economic and health systems to adequately address it, the meaning of money and of systems built on the need for constant exponential growth, the symbolism and psychology...
1:53:33
April 8, 2020
Homelessness & the Coronavirus Crisis with Sammie Leon Lawrence IV
Sammie returns to A State of Mind to discuss the crisis of homelessness in the times of the Coronavirus crisis and other pressing political concerns.SAFE: Safe Access For Everyone https://safeaccessusa.comTreatment of Asians during WWII:...
54:06
April 4, 2020
A Guided Meditation for the Coronavirus Pandemic
Julian offers a guided meditation to help work with the difficulties and challenges we are facing during the Coronavirus Pandemic. Learn more about Julian athttp://www.JulianOcean.us
22:43
March 26, 2020
The Coronavirus Pandemic with Dr. Trevor Royce
Julian and Trevor discuss the on going Coronavirus pandemic; Trevor shares the latest research and facts, the protocols being adopted at the UNC Chapel Hill Medical Research Hospital, and what to do if you or a loved one becomes infected. Straight talk...
40:19
March 17, 2020
Visionary Plant Spirit Medicine with Kuthoomi
Julian and Kuthoomi discuss plant spirit medicine and psychedelics in the context of the traditions form which they came as well as the contemporary context and the phenomena of 'new age shamans.' Kuthoomi shares about his life, his training and the...
1:38:01
March 16, 2020
#36- Buddha Bomb: Spontaneous InterConnectivity
Buddha Bomb - aka James Jobson - shares with us some of his life, inspiration and wisdom. Buddha Bomb is an artist, poet, and DJ. He is also a long time meditator. He helps host Sleepless Nights, a show on the KGNU radio station. He plays at Ecstatic...
1:27:46
February 26, 2020
Mycology and Wild Foraging with Stephen Vannortwick
Stephen and Julian discuss mycology, wild foraging, being an artist and the inter-connected nature of all things.http://patreon.com/astateofmind
1:10:39
February 18, 2020
Spiritual emergencies & a broken mental health care system- with Integral coach Chris Emerson
Chris shares some of his own journey with mental health and his work to help people grow and even awaken through spiritual emergencies; "spiritual emergencies" is an idea developed by the famous psychiatrist Stanilov Grof and sees that a 'break down'...
1:26:53
February 11, 2020
Mess O'Shambhala pt3: Carol Merchasin, Investigative Lawyer
Carol Merchasin has been one of the principal investigators into allegations of abuse in the Shambhala Buddhist organization. She is a retired lawyer who has devoted over 500 hours of her time pro bono to this investigation and to talking with the victims and attempting to collaborate their stories and has released several statements about Shambhala, the scandal and contributed to the Buddhist Project Sunshine reports on it.
1:15:12
January 26, 2020
Mess O'Shambhala: Responding to Scandal with Melanie Klein
Here is the re-publishing of the original podcast featuring an in-depth conversation with the director of the Boulder Shambhala Center and the efforts she and this local center have been making to respond to the scandals that have rocked the Shambhala...
1:07:55
January 6, 2020
#31 - Integral Centered - with Robert MacNaughton
In depth conversation with Robert MacNaughton. Robert was the director and founder of the Integral Center in Boulder, Colorado and has taught and developed the interpersonal meditation practice of Circling. In this far ranging conversation, Julian and Robert discuss our post modern age and the giant 'religion sized hole' in our collective psyche, the dignities and disasters of our postmodern age, what the practice of Circling is and how it is an integral practice of relating, the challenges and rewards of being the director of the Integral Center over the last decade, the problems that come with over emphasis on deconstruction, and a refreshing note of optimism for the future of humanity and our planet EARTH.
1:22:55
December 18, 2019
#30 - Adventures in Medical Science with Radiation Oncologist Dr. Trevor Royce
In depth conversation featuring Julian's brother, Dr. Trevor Royce. Trevor is a radiation oncologist specializing in genitourinary malignancies (e.g. prostate and bladder cancer) and breast cancer. He discusses the ups and downs of medical school, what cancer actually is, the latest research on cancer, and his own speciality of Radiation Oncology, where he treats cancer patients with highly concentrated and focused radiation. They also discuss the problems and issues in our medical system and the reasons why costs are so high. They discuss how having a profit motive driving our health care system leads to fundamental underlying issues in the quality of care and in the ability of our system to provide preventive, holistic care.
54:00
November 25, 2019
#29 Herbal Medicine: Heart, Mind & Planet with Brigitte Mars
Julian and Brigitte discuss plants, herbal medicines, nutrition and the immense connection between diet and mental health. Brigitte shares about her life long love of plants and herbs and her inspiring work to make positive changes for the health of our planet.
1:05:06
November 17, 2019
#28: Finding Common Ground with Scott Tusa: part 2
Julian and Scott discuss relative truth, how to establish if something is true in the context of 'fake news' and 'alternative facts.' They discuss the teacher -student relationship on one's spiritual path in the context of all the scandals currently afflicting spiritual communities often due to absues from the "guru" and Scott shares his experience of working closely with a spiritual teacher, which has been a positive relationship in his own life. They also talk about race and some other challenging topics.
1:39:58
November 7, 2019
#27: Zen, Kung Fu and Post-Modern Spirituality with Keith Martin-Smith
Keith discusses how he found meditation and shares about his path with Tibetan and Zen Buddhism. Keith highlights the importance of adult psychological development and the potential pit falls and dangers of not doing psychological work along with one's practice of meditation. Keith is a Kung Fu teacher as well as an ordained Zen priest and sensei and is the author of several award winning books and has been an active member in the Integral Theory community of Ken Wilber.
1:07:44
October 27, 2019
#26: Mindfulness on a Global Scale with Kelly Boys
Julian and Kelly discuss her book The Blindspot Effect: How to Stop Missing What's Right in Front of You along with different approaches to Mindfulness practice and using mindfulness to work with trauma. Kelly shares about her work with the U.N. and her experiences visiting refuge camps in the Middle East and her experience with the Prison Yoga Project where she worked with inmates serving long sentences, sometimes life sentences. Kelly also helped develop Search Inside Yourself, a mindfulness and emotional intelligence training program pioneered at Google and now taught around the world.
58:29
October 18, 2019
#25: 9 Years as a Buddhist Monk: Scott Tusa
Julian and Scott discuss Scott's life and journey with meditation and his being ordained as a monk by the Dalai Lama. After 9 years he decided to no longer be a monk in the formal sense and has been exploring relationships and paths of healing while he continues to teach meditation and guide people on their path. We discuss the role of psychological work and relationships have in the context of meditation and differences between pre-modern world and our contemporary society and the question of Evolution and "Progress" and what that can mean both for the individual and for our society at large.
1:08:42
October 16, 2019
#24 Adventures in America with Sammie Leon Lawrence IV
In depth conversation with Sammie Leon Lawrence IV in which he discussed growing up in a mixed race household, his experience being homeless and working his way to stability and his experience suffering a traumatic brain injury from an accident at his job. He shares some thoughts on race and racism in America, including a recent incident of white students at the University of Colorado Fort Collins dressing up in Blackface.
1:20:43
September 26, 2019
Facing Challenges with Grace: in-depth conversation with Judith Simmer-Brown, Ph. D
Judith Simmer-Brown, Ph. D is a Distinguished Professor of Contemplative and Religious Studies at Naropa University and one of the senior most meditation teachers in the Shambhala Buddhist organization. Judith and Julian discuss the scandal and allegations involving 'the Sakyong', who has been the leader of Shambhala for many years. Judith shares about her life long journey with meditation and spirituality and her work in higher education to bring contemplative practices and mindfulness to universities and schools across the world.
1:16:41
September 19, 2019
#22 The Possibility of Collapse with Daniel Thorson
Julian and Daniel discuss mindfulness, meditation and technologies of transformation in the face of climate change and other threats to our collective survival. Daniel is a long time meditator, host of the Emerge Podcast and current resident at the Monastic Academy
1:16:20
September 9, 2019
#21 Cryptocurrencies, Free State Project and Gold: Part 2 with Steven RA Johnson
Steven shares knowledge and insights about cryptocurrencies and the state of our economy as well as his experience with the Free State Project and other experiences with activism.
42:42
September 5, 2019
#20 Buddha Lands in Crestone with Steven RA Johnson
Steven Johnson is a long time meditator, scholar and translator from Tibetan to English. We discuss the unique history of Crestone, Colorado, a small mountain town which currently has over 40 spiritual retreat centers in the mountains around it and which has long been sacred to the Indigenous peoples. Steven shares with us a few poetic translations as well
1:05:42
September 4, 2019
Radical Happiness with Erric Solomon
Erric and Julian have an in depth discussion about happiness, it's causes and the role that meditation and mindfulness practices can play in cultivating genuine happiness for ourselves and those in our lives.
1:49:30
September 2, 2019
Reflecting on Dharma with Dr. Phil Stanley
Dr. Phil and Julian discuss Buddhist philosophy and some practical applications of it to our lives today
1:46:16
August 26, 2019
Tiny Temples & Natural Building with Corwin Mandel
Corwin Mandel and Julian discuss natural building and tiny homes; Corwin describes creating inspirational living spaces that are living works of art, which he calls Tiny Temples.
1:20:06
August 18, 2019
Paths of Soul, Dance & Embodiment with Amber Ryan: The 360 Emergence
In depth conversation with Amber Ryan, an international movement-meditation teacher and DJ and co-founder of The 360 Emergence along with Kate Shela
1:50:12
August 13, 2019
The Nitty Gritty with Naropa University President Chuck Lief
Naropa University President Chuck Lief discussing the history and legacy of Naropa as a foundational piece in the contemporary mindfulness movement and one of the first places that mindfulness was taught in a secular, systematic way while at the same time being deeply informed by contemplative traditions, especially Indo-Tibetan Buddhist traditions. We discuss the controversial legacy of the schools founder, Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche, and stories from his life and the early days of the school. Chuck shares about his life's work as a lawyer and activist and sone surprising reasons for the high cost of university education in the USA today.
1:08:13
July 18, 2019
The Art of Dialogue and the Way of Peacemaking: Your Electric Servant(s)
Recorded Live at the Sonic Bloom transformational festival, this is a conversation with your Electric Servant about his work as a peace maker in Israel and the Middle East and how the Art of Dialogue can deepen connections, understanding and contribute to real, lasting peace on this earth and presumably, for those who so believe, in the glory of everlasting after life on the pink clouds of a place called heaven.
35:14
July 11, 2019
Somebody or Nobody? with Mr. Ryan Nobody
Recorded live at Sonic Bloom transformational festival, Julian Ocean speaks with multi instrumentalist musician Ryan Nobody about his creative process and life, about building an earth ship in the desert outside Taos, New Mexico and the influence of Eastern philosophy on his life and work.
56:20
July 9, 2019
The Light and Dark with Leslie Rogers
In depth and provocative conversation with Leslie Rogers, co-founder of the Light Dark Institute; He teaches and facilitates experiences on how to embrace the parts of ourselves and the world that we deny or have rejected for greater power and freedom.
1:58:36
June 26, 2019
Fest Medical, Integrated Healing and the Permaculture of Relationships
Talking with Joel Roth Davis, founder of Festival Medical, a non-profit organization which brings integrated medical care to festivals. Three elements of integrated healing are emphasized: Emergency Response, Alternative Healing and Harm Reduction. We discuss the US medical system and how this could be a model of more holistic community centered care. We discuss the meaning of Harm Reduction. Joel then shares with us a provocative view of relationships, using principles of Permaculture and applying them to our own eco system of relationships. We discuss different styles of relationships and that some people may well be polyamorous by nature while others are more naturally monogamous. Joel discusses this in the context of six basic human needs: Certainty/Comfort, Uncertainty / Variety, Significance, Love and Connection, Growth, Contribution.
1:45:12
June 15, 2019
Relational Mindfulness with Nicole Reavy, MA
Nicole Reavy, MA. shares with us about her life and how she came to be so passionate about the healing work she is doing today around intimacy, communication and embodiment.
58:12
June 13, 2019
Love and Power: Why It Matters
Intimate conversation with Kevin McKeag, a musician, writer and life coach; he shares with us his journey with meditation and experience with different healing modalities as well as his work as a personal coach and meditation instructor.
49:32
June 7, 2019
Journeys in Therapy and Healing with Dan Michels
In depth conversation with Dan Michels, MA, a Hakomi and PACT trained psychotherapist.
1:32:43
May 25, 2019
Dr. Travis Cox: the Philosophy of Sustainability
In-depth conversation about the philosophical underpinnings necessary for true sustainability and the shift that our culture needs to take to become sustainable
2:08:33
May 24, 2019
Dr. Ananya: Sacred Sexuality, scandal and liberation
Dr. Ananya discusses her journey with sacred sexuality, her career arc from Ph.D. bio-chemists to integrated sexuality coach, and what an ethics of consent could look like.
1:21:20
May 16, 2019
Steven Newman: Meditation and the Creative Process
We discuss the role of meditation and yoga and psychedelics in Steven's creative process, sacred geometry, and differences in traditional Eastern art forms and contemporary and Western art traditions.
1:17:25
May 15, 2019
Reverend Freakchild: music, addiction and a path through
The life and music of the Reverend Freakchild, his journey with addiction and finding the path of meditation.
1:23:12
May 14, 2019
Christopher Sunyata: The Yoga of Intimate Relationship
In-depth conversation about sexual yoga and the 'yoga of intimacy', relationship and sexuality as a spiritual path, embodied meditation, the importance of orgasm and how to expand it in time and throughout one's entire body.
1:46:24
May 10, 2019
Carla Clements, Ph. D, transpersonal & psychedelic assisted therapies
In-depth conversation with Dr. Clements on psychedelic assisted therapy and research, ecology and transpersonal psychology.
1:26:08
May 5, 2019