A BLACK GIRL A WHITE GIRL: Conversations with Tee-Ta & Tiffany

Tee-Ta and Tiffany say farewell to A Black Girl A White Girl. Although the show will live on YouTube and Podcast channels, Tee-Ta and Tiffany share why they decided to finish recording episodes and what it means for them moving forward.

In 2018 Tee-Ta Walker and Tiffany Scott met at a business conference; during dinner, Tiffany asked Tee-Ta why a friend of hers (a woman of color) was upset when Tiffany said she didn’t see color, and from there, A Black Girl A White Girl was born.

3 seasons later, with life taking many twists and turns, Tee-Ta and Tiffany have been dedicated to bringing difficult conversations from behind closed doors in the hope that more women will feel empowered to bridge the gap between black and white people in America. To end unconscious bias and learn what it takes to be an ally, ultimately to end racism once and for all.

Both hugely grateful for the journey, Tee-Ta and Tiffany’s friendship remains as strong as ever, and they hope that for as long as the show remains on the web, more people can gain healing, insight, and courage to create unity between white and black people.

Tee-Ta & Tiffany talked about Juneteenth, now a Federal Holiday. The official Day is June 19th. However, this year's observance is Monday, June 20th, 2022.

The ladies discussed why Juneteenth came about and why it is essential. You can watch or listen to why Juneteenth is necessary for our society and how to move forward in creating change for the betterment of all.

Show Hosts Tee-Ta Walker and Tiffany Scott discuss a recent video that went viral of Senator Mallory McMorrow's address to congress regarding teaching actual historical facts in schools regarding slavery and other black histories.

The article link shared below is well worth the read. Tee-Ta and Tiffany read excerpts from the address, and Tee-Ta shares her thoughts about why "white, straight, Christian, married, suburban moms,' as McMorrow describes herself, are needed to help end systemic oppression and racism.

Based on Tee-Ta's insights, Tiffany seeks her advice about her current real-life dilemma at her gym and seeks Tee-Ta's advice on what to do. Another serious topic, yet Tee-Ta and Tiffany manage to still put a smile on your face with a black girl and a white girl stuff conversations!

Link to the article below, which also includes the video of Mallory McMorrow's address:

It’s a heavy blow again to start Season 3 after the Buffalo murders. On our first show back for 2022, Tiffany asks Tee-Ta to share her feelings as a black woman living through yet another racist attack.

Tee-Ta Walker candidly shares her cycle of emotions and thoughts about a country that felt far too silent after 10 innocent black people were murdered and 3 injured in a supermarket by gunfire from a premeditated hate crime by Payton Gendron.

Tiffany Scott shares why it’s important for white people to listen to black people’s experiences, to have conversations about it, and remember that Black Lives Matter is not a trend that fades away with time. We always need to be allies, not just when it suits us.

Say their names:

• Roberta A. Drury of Buffalo, N.Y. – age 32
• Margus D. Morrison of Buffalo, N.Y. – age 52
• Andre Macneil of Auburn, N.Y. – age 53
• Aaron Salter of Lockport, N.Y. – age 55
• Geraldine Talley of Buffalo, N.Y. – age 62
• Celestine Chaney of Buffalo, N.Y. – age 65
• Heyward Patterson of Buffalo, N.Y. – age 67
• Katherine Massey of Buffalo, N.Y. – age 72
• Pearl Young of Buffalo, N.Y. – age 77
• Ruth Whitfield of Buffalo, N.Y. – age 86

The three people who suffered injuries:

• Zaire Goodman of Buffalo, N.Y. – age 20 (treated and released from ECMC)
• Jennifer Warrington of Tonawanda, N.Y. – age 50 (treated and released from ECMC)
• Christopher Braden of Lackawanna, N.Y. – age 55

Articles in tribute to the lives lost:

Kim De Silva joins Tee-Ta Walker and Tiffany Scott for an educational conversation about race relations and racism in Trinidad, the similarities and the differences, across continents and why she uses 'language' (Spanish in particular) to help people understand how to connect with different races and cultures.

Not only will you learn about Trinidad and its history, its culture, and its challenges, but you'll also come to understand how we can choose to unite instead of divide, even with the tiniest choices.

Connect with Kim here:

Tee-Ta Walker and Tiffany Scott continue the conversation about ‘normal people doing not normal things,’ particularly a group of Dad’s making a massive difference in a school in Louisiana by making their presence known and ending student violence through love and kindness, laughter, and a stern presence!

Learn why this act of kindness is changing the landscape of school violence and the significance of it being led by black Dads, and the deeper history behind why they took matters into their own hands.

Watch this episode to re-ignite your faith in humanity!

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Oh, this might be one of Tee-Ta Walker and Tiffany Scott's favorite episodes of the season. Jules Sanders and Liz Williams, Founders of We Are Afara, talk about what it takes to be everyday people doing 'not normal' things.

Jules and Liz share in detail how their work creates a bridge for all people (that want to) unlearn bias and dismantle system oppression.

These women are like kindred spirits to Tee-Ta and Tiffany, and the conversation goes deep into how black and white people can bridge the gap and how all races need to be a part of ending the racial division. Why white tears don't help, how to accept the judgment, what to say when someone gets upset with you and who to ask and not ask about understanding your bias. This episode is full of gold!

Jules and Liz's viewpoints are tangible, actionable steps, built on experience and created on a foundation of support and trust so all people can grow and heal on their journey to wanting to do and be better for humanity.

A MUST-WATCH!

Connect with Jules Sanders and Liz Williams here:

Regular guests Pamela Davis and Erin Burch join Tee-Ta Walker and Tiffany Scott for an honest and heartfelt conversation about women’s voices. The differences between white women’s voices and black women’s voices and the similarities. What it means to find your voice, share your voice, the danger, fear, and empowerment behind women rising so change can take place in a world where so much division is still so apparent.

As usual, Pamela and Erin bring their unique voices to challenging questions and perspectives that are not always in agreement but always for the greater good.

Video Reference and a must-watch:

Kimberly Jones Video that we discussed.

Pamela Davis joins Tee-Ta Walker and Tiffany Scott for a controversial conversation about the recent anti-abortion ruling in Texas. Pamela shares her perspective on why pointing out that Black and Brown people are at greater risk is actually counterproductive.

With some on-the-spot fact-checking and Tee-Ta sharing her truth, this conversation, raw and real, as per usual, is full of perspectives that should be considered.

Some articles for your critical thinking reference checking:

How injustice in the Black community has contributed to skyrocketing Black abortions

Tiffany Scott asks Tee-Ta Walker what it means to not be complicit and her journey towards that stance in this episode.

Tee-Ta openly shares her journey of healing, understanding herself, and finding her voice in a society that too often wants to oppress it.

Tee-Ta inspires others how they too can no longer be complicit with the steps she took.

A beautiful conversation; when you listen, you will have greater empathy, compassion, and understanding.

Be also sure to read Tee-Ta’s powerful interview by the Orlando Voyager.

Tee-Ta and Tiffany took a holiday. Why? Because when you do work that is more avoided than celebrated, it can get exhausting.

Coming off of their holiday, Tee-Ta & Tiffany had their monthly conversation with Pamela Davis and Erin Burch.

They continued to chat about Black women, who seem to create a radical shift in society; yet, still denied and criticized EVEN when others are capitalizing on the change. This time it is mental illness.

Here are a few articles revealing how Simone Biles's stance on Mental Health has now taken a journey of its own.

Biles: Mental health advocacy part of post-Olympic tour:  https://bit.ly/2Wd92Ri.

How the Tokyo Olympics Changed the Conversation About Athletes' Mental Health: https://bit.ly/3zcDLMS.

You Don't Have To Be An Olympian To Prioritize Your Mental Health: https://n.pr/2WdoVqO.

Connect with Pamela Davis here:

Pamela Davis and Erin Burch, join Tee-Ta Walker and Tiffany Scott for their monthly ‘2 Black Girls and 2 White Girls Conversation’ on current affairs relating to the racial divide in the USA.

In this episode, the women discuss how Black Women are continuing to be ostracized and criticized. From the Olympics of divisiveness lead from a patriarchal committee. To, how can we create connection and healing? And how to be an ally even if it’s clunky and owning being an angry black woman. Needless to say, A LOT was covered, and WOW, was it a rich conversation.

Articles Referenced:

Critical Race Theory

Jessica Denise Dickson (she/her/hers) is a life empowerment coach who believes that when Black women heal, the world heals. She believes that the path to personal and collective healing comes through embodying our Enneagram and liberation work.

In this episode, Tee-Ta Walker, Tiffany Scott, and Jessica Dickson explore anti-racism, healing, and how the Enneagram informs the work Jessica does to educate and heal trauma. An incredibly informative hour with no stone left unturned. You might want to pay particular attention to the discussion about white tears and “being a good white girl.”

Connect with Jessica Dickson here:

Our regular guest Pamela Davis of the Well Done Life Podcast joined us to talk about the recent Kamala Harris comment that “America is not a racist country but the nation must speak the truth about its history with racism” on ABC News, "Good Morning America".

Pamela was not surprised, Tiffany was surprised and Tee-Ta was up in arms. Pamela shares some deeper issues arising from politicians and her thoughts on how we can move toward healing and ending racism, while Tee-Ta has a 'Tee-Ta Moment.'

Connect with Pamela Davis here:

Special guest Shehara Wooten joins us for a deep dive into the Wealth Gap between Black & White people. How we got here, where we're currently at and where things are going.

Shehara (Sha-Hair-Rah) has over 16 years of experience in the financial services industry and is the founder of Your Story Financial and author of ‘In The Meantime: Earn Your Financial Narrative.’ She specializes in educating women on creating financial freedom and ending the wealth gap for women of color.

In this episode with Tee-Ta Walker and Tiffany Scoot, you’ll hear Shehara share a little history lesson, some great financial advice, and inspire you and educate you on how to end the wealth gap, whether you are black or white. After all, we are better when we ALL thrive, not just one race.

You can connect with Shehara here:

One of Tee-Ta’s and Tiffany’s followers sent in a question about Black-on-Black crime. Bravo! Tee-Ta and Tiffany share their initial reaction to the question and unpack their triggers, the history, and black oppression across different countries.

Show references:

Pheweeee, Tee-Ta, and Tiffany dive into popular topics of the moment. The spotlight being shone on the Bachelor’s racist undertones, tokenism, and prominent white slant. In the recent interview by Oprah with Meghan and Harry, everyone is talking about how history hasn’t changed, racism exhaustion, and lynching laws. Once again Tee-Ta Walker and Tiffany Scott cover the gamut.

The quote Tiffany was trying to find by Martin Luther King Jr to share with you on the show:

“We will remember not the words of our enemies, but the silence of our friends.”

References:

Racism Controversy Rocks Bachelor Nation

Pamela Davis joined Tee-Ta Walker and Tiffany Scott for some ‘real talk’ about the recent Valentine’s Day post by the United Nations that caused a huge uproar with black women.

They took the post down after getting backlash from what seemed like a well-intentioned attempt at showing diversity with a very disappointing outcome that screamed no black women at the advisory table (yet again) when the post was released.

Tee-Ta, Pam, and Tiffany all share their different points (yes black women’s points of view versus white women’s perspective) and dive deep in the effects of what can be mistaken as small oversight, which is in fact, hugely triggering and damaging.

References:

Tee-Ta and Tiffany invite Demetria and Jeff Sloan to talk about the history of HBCU’s, how they started, why they are important, what goes on and the difference between Historic Black Colleges and PWI (Predominantly White Institutions).

Naturally there is a #teetamoment (AKA mike drop) and Tiffany is obsessed with finding out more about stepping.

Demetria Sloan and her husband Jeff are a wealth of information, and Tee-Ta and Tiffany can’t wait to go on a Homecoming tour with them.

#theilove #fox #blm #blacklivesmatter #blackhistorymonth #truthmonth #allyship #HBCU

Show Notes:

HBCU Resources:

Whoa, Tee-Ta Walker and Tiffany Scott cover A LOT in this show from Black History Month - is it a good thing or just a token gesture to pacify, why white women lack sisterhood, Trump, Martin Luther King, Tiffany’s all time favorite sitcom, Blackish and of course there is a #teetamoment.

Mentions:

Featuring our guest expert CC Gleser, Tee-Ta Walker and Tiffany Scott have a very candid conversation about the what and why of reparation, restoration and healing.

White folx, listen, learn, notice your triggers and feel free to ask questions or share your (educated thoughts) in the comments and we will respond.

A system built on slavery is still very much in existence and each person who has profited from it has the opportunity to make wrongs right and change a white supremacist system for next generations. We’d love to hear what actions shared on this show you will take.

Connect with CC Gleser here:

Lesley Batson, our favorite regular, joins us for a conversation about the recent riots at the Nation's Capitol.

Our opinions may differ at times, but it opens up the opportunity to further understand what transpired, how it happened, what we agree with, what we don’t agree with and ultimately, what we need to do so the country heals and racism truly becomes a part of history and stays there.

Love Lesley as much as we do? You can connect with her here:

In-between some ‘Tee-Ta Moments’, yep that deserves a hashtag - #teetamoment, we discuss the history behind why black people don’t trust the COVID vaccine, why Tiffany isn’t rushing to get vaccinated and the real pandemic of America - selfishness!

Tee-Ta and Tiffany discuss something as simple as choosing a Santa hat. Yup! You'll find this one interesting for sure. In true Tee-Ta and Tiffany style, they take you behind the curtain on how the simplest decisions can lead to deconstructing ingrained unconscious bias, white privilege and judgement.

If you’re Black you’ll be nodding your head, if you’re White you’ll be scratching your head.

What would you choose to be? Naughty or nice?

Things we refer to in the show:

Special guest LaVonne Dorsey, Clinical Therapist and Executive Coach shares how ancestral trauma affects black people, how COVID trauma needs to be brought to the forefront, how trauma is in all of us, why it shouldn’t be ignored and how to heal it.

Even if you don’t think you have trauma watch this episode, it will change your mind, help you heal and put you on the path to thriving.

We are in this together!

Connect with LaVonne here:

Tee-Ta wasn’t surprised at some of the nuances, whereas Tiffany had a lot of emotions. We alluded to our different takes from ongoing suppression and privilege – two unique journeys Tee-Ta and Tiffany have experienced. YET, in the end, our mission is that color won’t be a dictator on who is validated, valuable and/or victorious.

Mélissa Peng joins us to talk about everything from staying in the marathon to black prejudice, yes black prejudice! Mélissa’s insights into how black people can be part of the change and how white people’s privilege isn’t always the problem brings yet another example of how not every person of color has the same perspective. Tee-Ta and Mélissa share their different points of view, while Tiffany listens and learns!

Mélissa Peng a.k.a., the Curly Executive is an award-winning brand marketer turned entrepreneur, content creator, and business coach.

Mélissa’s journey in marketing started at the ripe young age of 8 as her mother's right-hand woman in door-to-door makeup sales and eventually several network marketing organizations. Mélissa earned her MBA from the MIT Sloan School of Management and held roles with marketing behemoths including Procter & Gamble, Macy’s, and NBC Universal. After 10 years of successfully climbing the corporate ladder and earning the title of Director of Marketing at the age of 30, she left corporate and her six-figure salary to build a lifestyle focused on pursuing her many passions and her newfound purpose of helping others do the same.

Tee- Ta and Tiffany take a break from all the ‘seriousness’ and talk raw and real about what’s important in a friendship, perfectionism, purpose and what it’s like for Tiffany to be in a relationship with a black man. Yeah Tee-Ta makes Tiffany get all personal!

References: Quote: "Be curious. Curiosity will keep you focused on the frontiers of your ignorance."

Well, in America...it is that time to vote for our next President of the United States. Also, in America, things have come to a serious head when it comes to what it truly means to be an ‘American.’ Whether one is truly equal or not. Whether being a female (specially a women of color) still limits your ability to purse positions, or especially, the people who are leading truly have no idea about your reality but trying to make all the decisions for you.

Therefore, we decided to have a conversation after the last Senator Kamala and VP Pence debate.

We thank and appreciate Diane Diaz, Lesley Batson, and Pamela Davis for joining us on this hot topic.

What are your thoughts on the political climate in America?

We never claim to speak for every black woman or white woman on our show. We are always sharing through the lens of our own experiences and our latest episode is a prime example of how we're raised, the environment we grow up in and individual experiences creates our narrative.

Two black women.

Monick Halm joined us for our most recent episode and shared her view of being a black woman in America and it was really interesting to see how it differed from Tee-Ta's. Monick's shared about raising 3 children, her own experience of racism and why she takes the time to understand all points of view when it comes to race and racism.

Monick Halm is the founder of Real Estate Investor Goddesses.  She is an educator and advocate for women to create real wealth through real estate.  She is herself a real estate investor, syndicator, and developer with over 15 years of real estate investing experience in multi-family, mobile home parks, RV parks, flipping, commercial, vacation rentals, syndication, and ground-up development. Together with her husband Peter Halm, and her investors, she owns over 1300 rental units across 9 states.

Her mission is to assist 1 million women to achieve financial freedom through real estate.

Tiffany's ‘white' friend Erin Burch talks candidly with Tee-Ta and Tiffany about her journey to realizing her own whiteness, understanding true American history and why she went on the journey to unpacking her own bias. Tee-Ta does not hold back on the questions and Erin comes to the table in a raw and real way. As someone said on our live show ‘We need more Erin’s!’

We discuss white guilt, shame and how white women have a lot to thank black women for.

Erin references a lot of reading, watching and listening material that Tiffany is certainly going to explore as well.

Listen:

Ok, before we get chewed up...the point we make is valid. We recently saw a post that really made sense. The statement, “I’m not racist, I just don’t support the looting and rioting and violence! I’d support them [hmm…now we are wondering who them is] if they protest peacefully.” The post went on to inform how the Chiefs and Texans were booed by fans for the first opening night of the NFL game of the season.

Why were the teams booed? Because they were standing in a moment of silence to acknowledge that racism exist. Remind you, 70% players are Black.

Soooooo…. how much more peaceful can you get with a moment of silence?

People need to stop lying. No, we hate racism and hate the value and behaviors of racist people…no argument there, but at least admit that you are racist. That is the honorable thing you can do. To pretend you support racial equality is worse than to come out and show you are racist.

People who boo, turn-up their noses, or try to justify every move to dismantle racism need to accept that they are racist. It isn’t in the matter of how one goes about encouraging racial equality…you simply disagree. Because…you are racist.

TAKE TWO – Part 2.2 of Tee-Ta’s experience growing up in Edmonds, WA, and Kelly Shepherd-Martin.

This is why we are doing TAKE TWO!

Although our first recording was good, we knew we could do better. So, again, this is TAKE TWO - with Queen Tee-Ta and dear old (white friend) Kelly Shepherd-Martin from Edmonds. A Black girl and TWO White girls. Candid and raw!

Per the discussion, we brought up White Guilt. We dropped a few different articles below, as we believe in learning from different angles and perspectives without denying the truth.

A day in the life of a black girl...
 
Did you see the latest episode (11)?

Tiffany interviewed Tee-Ta about her time growing up in the predominantly white town of Edmonds, Washington. To walk just a few minutes in the shoes of a black girl would have most white people in uproar. So, imagine what it's like day in and day out?

During Episode 12, we continued the conversation with Tee-Ta about her experiences in Edmonds, WA. This time we brought on Kelly Shepard Martin, a White friend from Edmonds.

Watch the very candid interview, we know it will help your mission of gaining a deeper understanding of what our black sisters go through so you can be a better ally. Empathy and understanding is healing.

During this episode, Tiffany interviewed our very own Queen Tee-Ta. This is Part I of Tee-Ta’s experience growing up in Edmonds, Washington, a predominantly White city. For individuals to understand how to create change…we must understand the struggles.

We simply talked about ‘Black & White Stereotypes.’ And a few different culture differences...like ‘Sweet Potato Pie & Pumpkin Pie.’ Or, ‘Black Don’t Crack.’

One comment from our Live from a White male had an interesting perspective: “I'm thinking that the Black stereotypes come from a place of racism and how white people chose to depict them, whereas the white stereotypes come from actual real qualities.” What is your take on that?

We like the definition we found from simple Wikipedia, “A stereotype is a mistaken idea or belief many people have about a thing or group that is based upon how they look on the outside, which may be untrue or only partly true. Stereotyping people is a type of prejudice because what is on the outside is a small part of who a person is.” As there can be some truth to it, it is mostly belief from a subjective perspective.

We HAD a phenomenal CONVERSATION with Lesley on the historical factors of why we STILL see significant wealth gaps between Blacks & Whites.