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Burning Bird

By Shaggy

Shaggy and Steve talk Philadelphia Phoenix from the confines of a different bar each week.
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Phoenix Files presents Game of the Week 7: April 28, 2018 vs. the DC Breeze

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Burning Bird 37: Gabe Hernandez

Burning Bird 37: Gabe Hernandez

Callahan Winner, Dallas Roughneck, and future school superintendent Gabe Hernandez joins Steve and Shaggy to talk about Ultimate during the summer of anything else. They also discuss Gabe's extremely successful work with the AUDL Inclusion Initiative where he raised over $68,000, and they talk about what it would take to increase visibility for people of color in Ultimate. They also cover Gabe's future Olympic aspirations, Steve's filmography, and Gabe's future career as a musician.

Jul 28, 202001:08:09
Burning Bird's Epic Draftapalooza

Burning Bird's Epic Draftapalooza

Our first returning guests from outside the city of Philadelphia join us in Michael Kiyoi and Ken Porter, back on the pod; this time to draft! Shaggy sets the rules and the three go at it. You decide which team is best: the West Coast bombers from Michael, Ken's well balanced multi-generational and multi-faceted team, Steve's team of 90s heroes, or Shaggy's team of only the best players he ever watched. Plus some sneaky bonus picks from outside the realm of Frisbee. You won't want to miss this!
Jul 14, 202001:00:19
Burning Bird 36 - Matt Smith

Burning Bird 36 - Matt Smith

The boys are headed back to Atlanta this week as they are joined by a very special guest, AUDL All Star Matt Smith. He talks about his prodigious AUDL career, both on and off the field, going as far back as 2012, when he played in the inaugural AUDL playoffs with the Rhode Island Rampage down at Franklin Field. We also discuss the AUDL Inclusion Initiative and Matt's work as director of youth engagement for the league. He also strongly cautions Shaggy against getting into the league commissioner business. Finally, the trio ends with one of the most important topics on everyone's mind: what is your favorite unsanctioned fun tournament?

Spoiler alert, Steve has a bunch of answers, doesn't let Shaggy talk, and doesn't even mention Wildwood!

All this and more only on this weeks edition of the Burning Bird!

Jul 07, 202001:23:41
Episode 35 - Ken Porter

Episode 35 - Ken Porter

DISCLAIMER: Ken got caught in a pretty wicked thunderstorm about halfway through the podcast, which pretty seriously cuts into the quality of the recording. You'll hear it when it happens, and Steve does apologize, but just be prepared. Also we recorded this about 3 days before the league cancelled, which is a shame.

This week, the crew is joined by Ken Porter, voted the 6th best male ultimate player of 2012 by Bleacher Report! Ken has played on the Charlotte Lions and the Detroit Mechanix, played for Ring of Fire, coached the Mechanix, and currently coaches D3 at Davidson. He is an extremely exciting guest to have on, and talks about his time in the AUDL and at NC State, the differences in playing and coaching, and what its like to be the fastest recorded person in Ultimate Frisbee. He also gives some great insight into coaching at D3, and finally answers the question "who would win at Ultimate: an AUDL team or an NBA team?" once and for all!

Ken also talks about his work with the AUDL Inclusion Initiative, and how the scope of their responsoibil

Ken also talks about his work with the AUDL Inclusion Initiative, and how the scope of their responsibilities changed in May with the murder of George Floyd and the surrounding protests. With his work in teen outreach at the YMCA, Ken is uniquely positioned to talk about how outreach impacts different communities, particularly at a youth level. Even though the storm makes it a little hard to understand, it is definitely worth a listen!

Jul 01, 202048:55
Burning Bird 34: Ethan Fortin

Burning Bird 34: Ethan Fortin

Steve and Shaggy recorded a bunch of episodes before the season was officially cancelled, and have decided to take a well deserved break. Therefore, we'll be playing those recordings out until Steve and Shaggy get back to recording more topical information.


This weekend, former Phoenix star and current DC Breeze handler Ethan Fortin joins the podcast for some much needed clapping back against Steve and Shaggy. While the boys took potshots at the professional, Ethan listened to every episode and waited, compiling exactly the right amount of ammunition for the eventual clap back! Now he's on the pod, and he brings with him the fury of a hundred snide remarks and Steve Side-eyes. Plus, Shaggy and Ethan get really into Dungeons and Dragons, something that they've both invested nearly all of their Frisbee time into with the season cancelled.

Jun 27, 202038:31
Burning Bird 33: Michael Kiyoi

Burning Bird 33: Michael Kiyoi

This week Steve and Shaggy talk to someone from the far reaches of the great unknown, also known as the West Coast. AUDL Champion Michael Kiyoi, formerly of the San Jose Spiders and currently of the LA Aviators, joins the boys to talk about all the similarities and differences of Ultimate in the Golden State. From diving into the history of the sport, going as far back as the UPA (!) to  recounting war stories from the Spider's championship weekend in Chicago, Michael gives Shaggy and Steve more than they could possibly have dreamed of. They also discuss heavier topics, such as the AUDL Inclusion Initiative, and racism in America.


Plus Steve and Michael work out a trade; Steve's 1998 Condors jersey for some current LA Aviators swag. It really is a must listen to of an episode.

Jun 23, 202001:16:33
Phoenix Files: Game of the Week 8, June 9th, 2018 Vs. Pittsburgh. With Special Guest Coach Pat Hammonds

Phoenix Files: Game of the Week 8, June 9th, 2018 Vs. Pittsburgh. With Special Guest Coach Pat Hammonds

The Phoenix Files are back! This week we bring out an episode we recorded way back in the middle of May with the coach of the Pittsburgh Thunderbirds, Pat Hammonds. A coach today and a player in June of 2018, Coach Hammonds lends a unique perspective on the game while Shaggy, Steve, and Harvish embark on their usual shenanigans. Harvish goes on a rant about how good Max Sheppard is, Shaggy gushes on Nardelli, and Steve and Coach Hammonds share war stories about Flyers Penguins games. Plus, get a breakdown on the 2018 Nix and Thunderbird roster constructions, and learn why Bailey Saul, the play by play commentator for the Phoenix in 2018, said that Pat talked some of the biggest smack on the field. All this and more only on the Phoenix Files: Game of the Week!

Jun 19, 202001:04:53
Burning Bird Episode 32: Miranda Knowles

Burning Bird Episode 32: Miranda Knowles

This week, the coach of the Atlanta Hustle, Miranda Knowles, comes on the podcast to talk ultimate as Steve and Shaggy try not to gush too hard over Miranda's prodigious resume. From Club titles to World titles; both as a player and as a coach, Miranda has accomplished just about everything, and the Bird crew wastes no time in diving into it. Get some insights into her time with Ultimate Peace, her work coaching Chinese youth teams, and which game was her all time favorite to win.  Plus, Shaggy gets her to reveal some strategic secrets about the Hustle, and Miranda gives the crew a special look into a possible new training program run by her bunny Avon.  All this and more only on this weeks episode of The Burning Bird.

Jun 16, 202040:14
Burning Bird 31: Dr. Sommer Hammoud

Burning Bird 31: Dr. Sommer Hammoud

This week, the head Team Physician, Dr. Sommer Hammoud, joins Steve and Shaggy to talk about Ultimate, health and safety, and how she ended up in Philadelphia. Dive into the specifics about how to protect your knees before returning to Frisbee from quarantine. Hear Dr. Hammoud refer to Steve as a "high school, collegiate, and pro athlete" for the decisions made regarding his knee. Shoulda given the guy a physical first doc!

The crew also dives into her Division One soccer career at UCLA, working with the Red Sox and the Phillies, and how owner and fellow Doctor, Christina Chung, managed to snag someone of such impressive qualifications. All this and more on this weeks episode of the Burning Bird, People of Color in Ultimate series.

Jun 12, 202025:51
Episode 30 - James Pollard and Nate Little

Episode 30 - James Pollard and Nate Little

There were audio issues I couldn't fix during this episode. If you have trouble understanding at certain points, now you know why.

The second feature in the Burning Bird People of Color series, defensive veteran James Pollard, and rising Phoenix phenom Nate Little, come on the podcast to discuss race in America, in Ultimate, and how people in Ultimate and people all over the country can do a better job. James also reminisces about playing high school Nate Little at sectionals, and Nate introduces Steve and Shaggy to Black n Mobile; a food delivery service for Black owned restaurants exclusively. This was a poignant and powerful episode to record, and we hope you enjoy listening.

Jun 09, 202043:25
Episode 29 - Brice Dunn

Episode 29 - Brice Dunn

Brice comes on the podcast and discusses his experiences with racism and the protests in Philadelphia. He also gives Steve and Shaggy a lesson in community engagement and how important the next generation is to the fight for equality in the United States.

Then about half way through the podcast switches lanes and starts talking about Ultimate. Shaggy and Brice reminisce about Dunn's success as a thrower for the D line, and how Brice's position as a grizzled veteran lets him mentor all the youth on the team.

Jun 05, 202057:31
Burning Bird 28: Mike Arcata and Matt Esser

Burning Bird 28: Mike Arcata and Matt Esser

This episode was recorded last week, before George Floyd was killed and before the protests began. Both Steve and Shaggy agree that there are bigger things than ultimate, and throughout this week we will try and talk more about different issues. Stay Strong, Stay Together, Black Lives Matter.

On this weeks episode, Mike Arcata comes on to talk about the COVID task force, discuss the finer points of ocean salmon, and claim that the Phoenix are the thickest team in the league and he could take anyone on in basketball. Then Matt Esser explains why he boofed it on America Ninja Warrior, what are his favorite Phoenix memories, and how Steve can handle his ant problem.

Jun 02, 202001:02:37
Episode 27: Evan Lepler

Episode 27: Evan Lepler

A very special episode of the Burning Bird this week as the Voice of the AUDL - Evan Lepler - joins us from North Carolina. With Steve's unparalleled research, we get to go all the way back to Evan's first broadcasting days; calling high school tennis as an eighth grader from his tree house. The crew discusses where Evan got his start, his first time calling a Frisbee game (its not what you think), his iconic corn hole moment, and more. Things get really heated when Evan turns the interview around and asks Shaggy how he thinks the Phoenix will do in the 2021 season. You won't want to miss this!

May 28, 202001:15:15
Burning Bird 26: Brandon Lamberty, Marc Sands and Sean Mott

Burning Bird 26: Brandon Lamberty, Marc Sands and Sean Mott

First up this week is a Phoenix Sophomore and Temple University fifth year: Brandon Lamberty. Brandon keys us in on his future political aspirations, the iconic ultimate studs of Wisconsin, and just how good his lefty scoobers really are, and who he's learned them from (hint: they're also on this episode). Then its the Pennsbury Pals: Marc Sands and Sean Mott, who managed to find time together in this socially distant world. These two get into everything, from high school ultimate to their mindsets involved in defeating the opponent. Finally, Marc and Mott have a surprise for the hosts, as they give Steve a quiz for which Phoenix player has which number. All this and more only on the Burning Bird!

May 27, 202001:05:39
Phoenix Files presents Game of the Week 7: April 28, 2018 vs. the DC Breeze

Phoenix Files presents Game of the Week 7: April 28, 2018 vs. the DC Breeze

As rain began to sprinkle the hallowed grounds of A.A. Garthwaithe stadium, the Phoenix and the Breeze trotted out to what would become one of the longest games in AUDL history. With lightening delays by the bucket load; Huc, Shaggy and Steve bring you one of the most intense games in Phoenix history. From dynamite plays to devastating fouls and so much more, its all here on another wonderful episode of the Phoenix Files. Bonus content! Steve tells us which is his least favorite coach in the NFL, and Shaggy rides to the defense of his mustachioed hero: Andy Ried. All this and so much more on The Game of the Week.

May 22, 202001:10:30
Episode 25: Paul Owens, Brandon Pastor, Matthew Ballman

Episode 25: Paul Owens, Brandon Pastor, Matthew Ballman

This week we're back to our old shenanigans as a trio of talented Phoenix players comes on to talk shop. First up is Ultiworld Club Breakout Player of the Year -Paul Owens- to talk about bowling and the everyday hustle of being such a good dude. Then Brandon Pastor, one of the funnest Frisbee players ever, discusses losing his prom date because of ultimate, and breaks down Shaggy's favorite play of the 2018 season. Finally, Matt Ballman comes on to talk about how he first met Coach Hampson, and who to bet money on in a theoretical AUDL tournament of champions. All this and more only on the Burning Bird with Steve and Shaggy.

May 19, 202001:11:26
Burning Bird 24 - Mother's day

Burning Bird 24 - Mother's day

On this very special family edition of the Burning Bird, Austin Lillis kicks off the pod with stories about how wrestling can help ultimate players, what makes lefty's so dominant, and why Steve is wrong about Dylan Freechild. Then Shaggy takes over as host and welcomes on Huc, from Phoenix File's fame, to talk to his brother, star Phoenix cutter Himalaya Mehta, about how gosh darn old he is. The two hit every aspect of Himmy's Philadelphia ultimate career; from his free Skippy's peanut butter coupons to Himalaya's scouting report for Harvish as an ultimate player. Last, but certainly not least, Shaggy interviews Steve about his mother and her AUDL moment, as well as how the Phoenix would fare in a tournament of moms. We hope you all had a very special Mother's Day, and we can't wait until the moms are back in the stands cheering on their kids.

May 12, 202001:18:45
Phoenix Files Game of the Week 6: June 24, 2018 vs. Montreal Royal

Phoenix Files Game of the Week 6: June 24, 2018 vs. Montreal Royal

A blowout and a bloodbath is whats on deck this week as we journey back to 2018 to watch the Montreal Royal struggle to overcome a hungry Phoenix team following a last minute win over New York by the Royal the night before. With coverage topics limited due to the absolute smack down laid on the visiting team, the gang is forced to meander down a litany of different paths to bring you the amazing content you deserve. Shaggy breaks down the future division for Huc, Steve gives us all some player bios on the 1994-95 college champions, and Huc tries to figure out, once and for all, what really is so difficult about playing in a back to back. All this and more on the Burning Bird presents the Phoenix Files Game of the Week.

May 08, 202001:14:35
Burning Bird 23 - Nick DiGiorio, Connor Boyle, and Matt Ellis

Burning Bird 23 - Nick DiGiorio, Connor Boyle, and Matt Ellis

This week on the Burning Bird; Lienert talks meatballs, Shaggy finishes his banana bread, and a trio of AUDL veterans call in to the studio to discuss what their second year in the league will be like. First Nick DiGiorgio breaks down which family member will win the DiGorgio quarantine olympics, Boyle brags about his dartsmanship, and Ellis dives in to what it's like to go to the championships. All that and more on episode 23 of the Burning Bird.
May 05, 202001:21:52
Phoenix Files Game of the Week: June 29, 2019 at Toronto

Phoenix Files Game of the Week: June 29, 2019 at Toronto

This week; Huc, Steve, and Shaggy are joined by professional ultimate player, multi time club champion, and multi time PADA league champion Andrea DeSabato to break down last years June 29th victory on the road against the Toronto Rush. The Phoenix never fell behind once against the championship caliber Canadians in this 26 - 24 thriller. Plus, the gang continues to tackle the tough questions such as: should Mott get the disc more? Should Connor Boyle start? And what would the AUDL look like if it went mixed. All this and more this time on the Phoenix Files Game of the Week.

May 01, 202001:15:22
Burning Bird 22: Greg Mohler, Ian Dietrich, and Dustin Damiano

Burning Bird 22: Greg Mohler, Ian Dietrich, and Dustin Damiano

With three full player interviews in this weeks episode, Steve and Shaggy are bringing you more than ever! Listen to Steve relive his High School coaching glory days with Radnor alum Greg Mohler. Hear Shaggy and Damiano dive deep into Camp Dustin's friends, and whether or not Arnold Schwarzenegger would make a good Ultimate Frisbee player. And finally, listen to Ian Dietrich put to bed, once and for all, that old as time debate: would 6 copies of Ben Simmons and Shaggy be a good AUDL team. Find out this week on The Burning Bird.

Apr 28, 202001:14:09
Phoenix Files Game of the Week: July 5, 2014 VS the Rochester Dragons

Phoenix Files Game of the Week: July 5, 2014 VS the Rochester Dragons

In a jam packed Phoenix Files, former coach of the Rochester Dragons and current coach of the New York Empire: Bryan Jones, does battle with his nemesis, and former coach of the Philadelphia Phoenix: Steve Lienert. These two titans of instruction face off in the Phoenix Files arena as, egged on by Shaggy and Huc, they break down a huge match up from the past between their respective teams. From a game that featured two callahans, one greatest, and a team that doesn't exist in the league anymore, the crew dives into all of the action. BONUS - are "I" Brians better than "Y" Bryans? You be the judge.

Apr 24, 202001:09:29
Burning Bird 21 addendum - Eric Witmer

Burning Bird 21 addendum - Eric Witmer

Due to a scheduling snaffoo... and Shaggy being cranky on a Monday, this segment with Eric Witmer got cut from last episode. So here it is, in all it's glory. Wit breaks down his legendary 2020 Phoenix combine, talks strategies he's picked up from soccer, and takes us pretty deep into his own life and dietary decisions. Its good stuff! Thats why we're sending it to you even if it missed the cutoff for Tuesday's episode.

Apr 22, 202033:49
Burning Bird 21 - Colin Masino and Matt Glazer

Burning Bird 21 - Colin Masino and Matt Glazer

This week, Steve and Shaggy interview Phoenix veteran Colin Masino on coming back for another season, if they think the season is actually going to happen, and how good Colin really was as a band kid. Steve even does a deep dive on high school ultimate, which is exactly what you come to the podcast for. Then two time professional ultimate champion Matt Glazer calls in to talk about what it is like to reach those pinnacles of ultimate, how he's adjusting to being the old hat in a young game, and his uncanny ability to be in the right place at the right time on the field.

Apr 21, 202047:44
Phoenix Files Game of the Week: July 14, 2019 at Montreal

Phoenix Files Game of the Week: July 14, 2019 at Montreal

Join us for a barn-burner of an episode as Lienert rips through the game summary to give you, our loyal listeners, plenty of time to listen to Shaggy, Huc and Steve talk about the highlights. Journey back to the last game of the 2019 regular season as the Phoenix travel to Montreal for a sensational double overtime victory over former rivals: the Montreal Royal. Can Huc decipher the French broadcast? Can Shaggy stop talking about Mike Arcata? Can Steve reign in the kids? Find out here. Then, special guest Nate Venditta, defensive coordinator for the Philadelphia Phoenix, arrives to drop some knowledge about the behind the scenes d points.

Apr 17, 202001:09:02
Burning Bird 20: Nate Little, Kenny Wells, and Matt Hanna

Burning Bird 20: Nate Little, Kenny Wells, and Matt Hanna

Shaggy and Steve bring on a trifecta of Phuture Phoenix Phenoms getting prepped for the season. First Nate Little makes an appearance to talk about being the youngest player on the team. Then he ranks the top five Phoenix basketball players. From young blood to an old hat, Kenny Wells is up next, talking about the wealth of experience he brings on a triumphant return to the team after a two year hiatus. Finally, patrol captain Matt Hanna comes on to discuss college ultimate rivalries, ultimate success, and what movies *should* have won the Oscar.
Apr 14, 202001:10:17
Phoenix Files Game of the Week 2: July 9, 2019, New York Empire vs Philadelphia Phoenix

Phoenix Files Game of the Week 2: July 9, 2019, New York Empire vs Philadelphia Phoenix

The gangs back to break down this debacle of a downpour in early July of last year.  From Lightening delays to loose calls; Steve, Harvish and Shaggy bemoan a soggy spectacle of professional Ultimate. No holds are barred!  Also, the gang tries to decipher Philly's offensive troubles from last season, brings up Huc's vegan appetite, and asks the important questions like, "should there be a 2 point line in the AUDL?"

Apr 10, 202001:08:39
Burning Bird 19: James Pollard and Dustin Henken

Burning Bird 19: James Pollard and Dustin Henken

Philly U tennis star turned Phoenix player James Pollard comes on to talk about the AUDL video game and what makes him such a fantastic puller.  Then Steve and Shaggy talk to Phoenix rookie, Dustin Henken, about getting into ultimate and why defense is so important.  Tune in Friday for our second ever Phoenix Files Game of the Week!

Apr 07, 202046:11
The Phoenix Files, Game of the Week: May 19 vs Toronto rush
Apr 03, 202057:09
Burning Bird 18: Alex Thorne and Eric Nardelli

Burning Bird 18: Alex Thorne and Eric Nardelli

Shaggy and Steve interview new signing and stud thrower Alex Thorne.  They touch on his quarantine experience, ultimate accolades,  and who is the greatest "Alex" of all time.  Plus, Steve's good friend, Trent Dillon, sends in some questions.  Then Phoenix captain, Eric Nardelli, comes on to talk about his six (!) years of Phoenix tenure, winning a club championship, and how he became so good at twitter: @nards_deli11.

Mar 31, 202046:32
Burning Bird 17: Coach Dave Hampson and Owners Jeff and Christina

Burning Bird 17: Coach Dave Hampson and Owners Jeff and Christina

Steve and Shaggy talk to Coach David Hampson this week, fresh from his travels in India.  They talk about the team and which potential jailbird would be calling Hampson with their one phone call.  Then Shaggy has Co-owners Christina Chung and Jeff George on to talk about the Coronavirus and how it is impacting Philadelphia.  Also Jeff George gives some gambling tips.  Tune in next week for our Game of the Week!

Mar 24, 202001:04:51
Burning Bird 15: The Baby Preview and Arcata talks Covid

Burning Bird 15: The Baby Preview and Arcata talks Covid

On this weeks episode, Steve and Shaggy give a slight preview for the Phoenix this season.  Then Director of Operations and returning guest Mike Arcata comes on to talk about COVID-19 and how the league is adjusting to the situation.  Stuck at home for the foreseeable future?  Well then you won't want to miss this.

Mar 17, 202036:27
Burning Bird 13: Wildwoodz edition

Burning Bird 13: Wildwoodz edition

Shaggy, Steve, and Harvish break down the end of the season, talk offseason, and things get pretty absurd since it’s late Saturday night at the Bolero during Wildwood 26.
Jul 28, 201934:09
Burning Bird 12

Burning Bird 12

Everything hits the fan as Harvish tries to come to terms with the end of the season, Shaggy drops a bombshell about the New York game, and Steve curses for the first time in his life. Some frisbee content may also occur.
Jul 11, 201935:41
Burning Bird ep. 11

Burning Bird ep. 11

Huck, Shaggy, and Steve break down Philly’s historic Toronto win and preview the upcoming contest against New York, the final home game of the season.
Jul 04, 201940:32
Burning Bird ep 10

Burning Bird ep 10

Harvish, Steve and Shaggy are joined by controlling shareholders Christina Chung and Jeff George to recap the close Phoenix lost from last week and preview the upcoming Toronto game
Jun 27, 201940:26
Burning Bird ep. 9

Burning Bird ep. 9

Shaggy returns to unveil Harvish’s new nickname, and Steve licks his chops at the prospect of open AUDL gambling
Jun 21, 201933:02
Burning Bird ep. 8

Burning Bird ep. 8

No shaggy this week, but Harvish and Steve are joined by AUDL All Star Sean Mott to talk Philly Ultimate and what’s in store for the Phoenix
Jun 14, 201934:11
Burning Bird 7

Burning Bird 7

Steve and Shaggy shred newly nicknamed Harvish for his sloppy all star drafting strategy and discuss how the Phoenix can make the playoffs going forward
Jun 07, 201921:56
Burning Bird ep. 6

Burning Bird ep. 6

Shaggy, Harvish and Steve are joined by Phoenix owners Christina and Jeff, as well as General Manager Mike Arcata. The crew recaps the Montreal games, tries to stump Steve, and drafts some all star teams.
May 30, 201940:21
Burning Bird ep. 5

Burning Bird ep. 5

Harvish, Shaggy and Steve break down the Toronto game and preview the upcoming match against Montreal. Did Harvish get a nickname this week? Listen and find out.
May 23, 201938:41
Ultiplanet weekly episode 1

Ultiplanet weekly episode 1

ULTIPLANET annual podcast kicks off with a rousing start. Host Zoe asks the board the hardest hitting questions in ultimate today. Like comment and subscribe five stars five stars
May 21, 201908:51