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The Deal With Animals with Marika S. Bell

The Deal With Animals with Marika S. Bell

By Marika S. Bell (350107)

Humans interact with animals every day of our lives: diet, wildlife, the clothes they wear, even the medicines they take; all intersections. This is a podcast about Anthrozoology: the study of interaction and connection between humans and non-human animals.
Our mission is to make research more accessible the public while sharing the voices and lived experience of our human connection with animals.
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47: Expressions of Emotion in Animals with Dr. Mariska Kret (S6)
47: Expressions of Emotion in Animals with Dr. Mariska Kret (S6)
Episode 1 of Series 6: The Animal Protagonist I'm talking to Dr Mariska Kret about how its possible to study the emotions of humans and other apes. The implications of this research is wide and the method more objective than you might think.  Guest: Dr. Mariska Kret (PI) works as a full professor at the Cognitive Psychology Unit of Leiden University, where she directs the CoPAN lab. After MSc degrees in Cognitive Psychology (2006) and in Clinical Psychology (2007) from Leiden University, Kret started her PhD trajectory at Tilburg University where she investigated the perception of emotions (2011). Since then, her research expanded to comparative studies in great apes and patients with mental disorders. She has demonstrated that many of the facets constituting emotion processing are evolutionary ancient, and shared with great apes, our closest living relatives. In her ERC Starting project she investigates the role of emotional expressions in the establishment of trust. Her VIDI extends that research to clinical populations (autism and social anxiety disorder). In her research she typically combines different methods including fMRI, psychophysiology and behavioural observations.  Reaching out to the general public and open science practices are of utmost importance to her.   https://www.mariskakret.com/ Book Recommendation: The Expression of the Emotions in Man and Animals by Charles Darwin and How to Study Animal Minds by Kristin Andrews The Ape Who Went to College  Host: Marika completed her MA in Anthrozoology at the University of Exeter, UK in 2016 and upon moving back to the Seattle area of Washington state she joined the board of Homeward Pet Adoption Center. She also holds a University degree in Zoology (UW) and a CPDT-KA from the Certification Council for Professional Dog Trainers. Now, host of The Deal with Animals, she enjoys chatting with people who know a lot more than she does about the various research disciplines of Anthrozoology as well as authors, nonprofits, professionals, and enthusiasts! Credits: The Deal With Animals is hosted by Marika. Music was composed by Kai Strandskov. Editing for this episode by Marika Bell Recording and post production software by Zencastr and hosting provided by Anchor. This Podcast is part of the IROAR Animals Podcasting Network  This podcast was produced on Historical Tribal Land of the Quinault Indian Nation and The Snoqualmie Tribe Ancestral Lands
56:56
December 05, 2022
Series 6 Trailer: The Animal Protagnist
Series 6 Trailer: The Animal Protagnist
Let's talk about Umwelt. I'm calling this series the animal protagonist, because it is hard to remember that everyone sees the world in their own way. We all have a version of the world where we are the protagonist. We are living as the main character in our own story. Are non human animals any different? For a long time The possibility of Animal emotions was off limits in the scientific community. And although anyone living with an animal, even scientists, could see that animals had emotions, still the scientific community steered away from the subject. It was argued that because Animals couldn't talk there's no way we could ever know for sure if they experienced emotions. And if we could not know for sure then we should act as if they do not. This policy, has allowed at least Western society to treat animals as if they were not sentient, as if, despite our own perceptions, they did not feel pain or joy. Animals were relegated to no more than living machines which had no moral standing. All that is now beginning to change as many in the scientific community have realized that although we cannot yet prove animals have emotions It doesn't mean we shouldn't ask the question. After all isn't science about asking questions? However the progress has been slow and as you will hear from some of our guests some of the scientific communities still prefer to act as of animals do not experience emotions. So, we are only starting to scratch the surface of understanding other animals perceptions of the world. In this series I'd like to take a few episodes to introduce you to some of The researchers, philosophers, and professionals who are asking questions about animal perceptions, emotions, preferences, and history. we're going to talk to Dr Mariska kret, about the current research that goes into understanding expressions of emotions in other animals, we're going to be talking to world famous author Barbara King about how animals experience grief, we'll be talking to Sindhoor panghal a researcher and dog trainer in India about her work with free roaming street dogs, Dr Simon gabois will talk to us about olfaction perception in canids, and Dr Michelle fournette will be giving us insight into the lives of marine mammals through bio acoustics! We'll also be talking to dog trainer Simone Mueller about predation instincts in dogs and how they can be turned into powerful training tools! And as you can imagine there is so much more! So thank you for joining me as we ask the question what's the deal with animals!
05:20
November 28, 2022
46: Idaho Wolves and The Young Voices of Reason with Cindy Su and Michel Liao (S5)
46: Idaho Wolves and The Young Voices of Reason with Cindy Su and Michel Liao (S5)
Episode 9 of Series 5: Children and Other Animals Cindy Su and Michel Liao are two of the members of an ecology club at an Idaho an high school who are trying to sound the alarm around the importance of wolves as a part of a healthy ecosystem in Idaho.  Guests: Michel Liao is a senior at Timberline High School in Boise, Idaho. Michel likes math, reading, and activism. He's co-president of his high school's environmental club, TREE Club, and co-founded System Green, a 501(c)(3) dedicated to transforming Boise into a more sustainable city. Recommended Reading: Man's Search for Meaning by Viktor Frankl Cindy Su is a senior at Timberline High School in Boise, Idaho in the United States. She has been following and advocating for the wolves ever since she heard about SB 1211 in the spring of 2021. Recommended Reading: Nothing by Janne Teller Planet Earth BBC Documentary Saving the Northern Rocky Mountains Gray Wolf International Wolf Center How Wolves Change Rivers  Host: Marika completed her MA in Anthrozoology at the University of Exeter, UK in 2016 and upon moving back to the Seattle area of Washington state she joined the board of Homeward Pet Adoption Center. She also holds a University degree in Zoology (UW) and a CPDT-KA from the Certification Council for Professional Dog Trainers. Now, host of The Deal with Animals, she enjoys chatting with people who know a lot more than she does about the various research disciplines of Anthrozoology as well as authors, nonprofits, professionals, and enthusiasts! Credits: The Deal With Animals is hosted by Marika. Music was composed by Kai Strandskov. Editing for this episode by Marika Bell Recording and post production software by Zencastr and hosting provided by Anchor. This Podcast is part of the IROAR Animals Podcasting Network  This podcast was produced on Historical Tribal Land of the Quinault Indian Nation and The Snoqualmie Tribe Ancestral Lands
52:50
November 21, 2022
45: Family Matters with Jen Shryock and Helen St. Pierre (S5)
45: Family Matters with Jen Shryock and Helen St. Pierre (S5)
Episode  8 of Series 5: Children and Other Animals I talk with Jen Shryock and Helen St. Pierre (who both spoke at the Aggression in Dogs Conference 2022) about issues around introducing new babies into a home with dogs, we discuss the issue of social media showing dogs with young children or babies and how to help your kids have a good relationship with the dog family members in your household.  Guests: Jennifer is the owner and founder of Family Paws Parent Education.   She has a certification from the International Association of Animal Behavior Consultants and a special education degree with more than 30 years of experience. She’s served on multiple boards, including the International Childbirth Education Association, and was Vice President of Doggone Safe, a non-profit dedicated to dog bite prevention and victim support. Book Recommendation: Living with Kids and Dogs...Without Losing Your Mind by Colleen Pelar Episode 37 with Colleen Pelar Helen is the owner and operator of No Monkey Business Dog Training, LLC. Based in Concord New Hampshire. She is a Certified Professional Dog Trainer – Knowledge and Skills Assessed (CPDT-KSA) and a Certified Dog Behavior Consultant (CDBC) and an Operation Socialization Certified Trainer (OSCT). Helen has been training dogs for over 20 years. She is a professional member of the Association of Pet Dog Trainers, a certified member of the International Association of Animal Behavior Consultants and a member of the Pet Professional Guild. Helen is also a licensed Dogs and Storks educator, and a licensed Dogs and Toddlers educator. Book Recommendation: The Third Chimpanzee: The Evolution and Future of the Human Animal by Jared Diamond Host: Marika completed her MA in Anthrozoology at the University of Exeter, UK in 2016 and upon moving back to the Seattle area of Washington state she joined the board of Homeward Pet Adoption Center. She also holds a University degree in Zoology (UW) and a CPDT-KA from the Certification Council for Professional Dog Trainers. Now, host of The Deal with Animals, she enjoys chatting with people who know a lot more than she does about the various research disciplines of Anthrozoology as well as authors, nonprofits, professionals, and enthusiasts! Credits: The Deal With Animals is hosted by Marika. Music was composed by Kai Strandskov. Editing for this episode by Marika Bell Recording and post production software by Zencastr and hosting provided by Anchor. This Podcast is part of the IROAR Animals Podcasting Network  This podcast was produced on Historical Tribal Land of the Quinault Indian Nation and The Snoqualmie Tribe Ancestral Lands
51:25
November 14, 2022
44: Animals and Domestic Violence with Therese Lilliesköld (S5)
44: Animals and Domestic Violence with Therese Lilliesköld (S5)
Episode 7 of Series 5: Children and Other Animals I talk with Therese Lilliesköld about animals and domestic violence. we will be talking about Domestic violence against pets and how pets are used against children by abusers. we're going to be talking about How to protect children from online abusers and how important it is for women's shelters to be welcoming to the animal family members. Guest: Therese Lilliesköld offers lectures and training on the connection between violence against children and family animals, cat behavior and cat protection, trauma in dogs and cats and family animals from an anthrozoological perspective. For pet owners, she offers cat behavior consultations and lectures. She lives in Gnesta in scenic Sörmland with her family; sons Ruben and Vidar, the house cats Pocahontas and Panther, the guinea pigs Lily and Juni, the mixed breed dog Vera and the Salamander Salomon. The Link Book Recommendation: Our Symphony with Animals: On Health, Empathy, and Our Shared Destinies By Aysha Akhtar Host: Marika completed her MA in Anthrozoology at the University of Exeter, UK in 2016 and upon moving back to the Seattle area of Washington state she joined the board of Homeward Pet Adoption Center. She also holds a University degree in Zoology (UW) and a CPDT-KA from the Certification Council for Professional Dog Trainers. Now, host of The Deal with Animals, she enjoys chatting with people who know a lot more than she does about the various research disciplines of Anthrozoology as well as authors, nonprofits, professionals, and enthusiasts! Credits: The Deal With Animals is hosted by Marika. Music was composed by Kai Strandskov. Editing for this episode by Marika Bell Recording and post production software by Zencastr and hosting provided by Anchor. This Podcast is part of the IROAR Animals Podcasting Network  This podcast was produced on Historical Tribal Land of the Quinault Indian Nation and The Snoqualmie Tribe Ancestral Lands
44:47
November 07, 2022
43: October Special! The Beagle Project with Lindsey Hamrick, HSUS
43: October Special! The Beagle Project with Lindsey Hamrick, HSUS
This is a Special Episode about the recent (Summer of 2022) removal and rescue of 4,000 Beagles from a breeding facility that breeds beagle so they can be sold to laboratories in the Unites States for use as test subjects.  Guest: Lindsay Hamrick, Director of Shelter Outreach and Engagement, the Humane Society of the United States works to strengthen partnerships with shelter and rescue organizations through mentorship, training, policy initiatives and grants. She is a Certified Animal Welfare Administrator and a Certified Professional Dog Trainer. Within the HSUS, she previously served as the director of policy—advancing fair housing policies, supporting humane community cat programs and ending breed-specific legislation—and as the New Hampshire state director. Before joining the HSUS, she spent almost a decade in animal sheltering, overseeing behavioral, medical, adoption and owner support programs at three of New Hampshire’s animal shelters, as well as at a large, urban shelter with an intake of over 30,000 animals per year. She serves on the board of Shelter Animals Count and the New England Federation of Humane Societies. Book Recommendation: Quiet: The Power of Introverts in a World That Can't Stop Talking, by Susan Cain Host: Marika completed her MA in Anthrozoology at the University of Exeter, UK in 2016 and upon moving back to the Seattle area of Washington state she joined the board of Homeward Pet Adoption Center. She also holds a University degree in Zoology (UW) and a CPDT-KA from the Certification Council for Professional Dog Trainers. Now, host of The Deal with Animals, she enjoys chatting with people who know a lot more than she does about the various research disciplines of Anthrozoology as well as authors, nonprofits, professionals, and enthusiasts! Credits: The Deal With Animals is hosted by Marika. Music was composed by Kai Strandskov. Editing for this episode by Marika Bell Recording and post production software by Zencastr and hosting provided by Anchor. This Podcast is part of the IROAR Animals Podcasting Network  This podcast was produced on Historical Tribal Land of the Quinault Indian Nation and The Snoqualmie Tribe Ancestral Lands
47:06
October 31, 2022
42: Engaging Children and Animals - Fanimal with Carol Kline and Nora Livingstone (S5)
42: Engaging Children and Animals - Fanimal with Carol Kline and Nora Livingstone (S5)
Episode 6 of Series 5: Children and Other Animals Learning about Fanimal, a way to engage children and youth in Animal science and programs to support an interest in the connection between humans and other animals.  Guest: Carol Kline is the founder and Managing Director of Fanimal. Through working as a tourism professor in North Carolina, U.S., Carol had the privilege of collaborating with many farming families who wish to develop tourism on their farm as a means to provide extra income and to convey the importance of food production and rural lifestyles. Today she teaches a course on Animals, Tourism, & Sustainability and her research agenda is focused entirely on animals, which intersects with tourism and hospitality quite naturally. She launched Fanimal.online  in 2018 to further satisfy her thirst for animal-related knowledge, her desire to network with animal- and environmentally-focused people, her wish help others find satisfaction by bringing animals into their life and careers, but most of all to be a part of something bigger for the betterment of animal lives. Book Recommendation: Yet to be published  Spiders by Carol Kline and Nora Livingstone Guest: Nora Livingstone is the CEO and co-founder of Animal Experience International, an award winning B Corp that helps people volunteer on animal welfare and conservation projects. She also is the host of Fanimal's Animal Chat Time where she talks to animal lovers of all ages about narwhals, flying snakes, binturongs and more! She has danced in the CN tower as a panda, Ivor Wynne stadium as a red tailed hawk, Birmingham Grand Central Station as a river otter and on the banks of the Cowichan River as a chinook salmon.  Book Recommendations: The Soul of an Octopus: A Surprising Exploration into the Wonder of Consciousness    by Sy Montgomery Host: Marika completed her MA in Anthrozoology at the University of Exeter, UK in 2016 and upon moving back to the Seattle area of Washington state she joined the board of Homeward Pet Adoption Center. She also holds a University degree in Zoology (UW) and a CPDT-KA from the Certification Council for Professional Dog Trainers. Now, host of The Deal with Animals, she enjoys chatting with people who know a lot more than she does about the various research disciplines of Anthrozoology as well as authors, nonprofits, professionals, and enthusiasts! Credits: The Deal With Animals is hosted by Marika. Music was composed by Kai Strandskov. Editing for this episode by Marika Bell Recording and post production software by Zencastr and hosting provided by Anchor. This Podcast is part of the IROAR Animals Podcasting Network  This podcast was produced on Historical Tribal Land of the Quinault Indian Nation and The Snoqualmie Tribe Ancestral Lands
55:33
October 24, 2022
41: Lynda Korimboccus The Peppa Pig Paradox (S5)
41: Lynda Korimboccus The Peppa Pig Paradox (S5)
Episode 5 of Series 5: Children and Other Animals  I chat with Anthrozoologist, Philosopher, and Social Scientist, Lynda Korimboccus, about her article "The Peppa Pig Paradox" an article published by The Journal for Critical Animal Studies in 2020.  Guest: Lynda is a passionate advocate for equity and justice, and is Trustee of a newly formed creative social project, The Scheme, in her hometown of Livingston, Scotland. Lynda’s current PhD research investigates the experiences of young vegan children in key Scottish social institutions such as education, with a view to expanding its inclusivity. She is a member of The Vegan Society’s Researcher and Education Networks, and she has been a Lecturer in Sociology and Programme Tutor for the Scottish Wider Access Programme (SWAP) in Social Sciences at West Lothian College for 15 years. Book Recommendations: Our Children and Other Animals: The Cultural Construction of Human-Animal Relations in Childhood by Kate Mathew Cole and Kate Stewart Host: Marika completed her MA in Anthrozoology at the University of Exeter, UK in 2016 and upon moving back to the Seattle area of Washington state she joined the board of Homeward Pet Adoption Center. She also holds a University degree in Zoology (UW) and a CPDT-KA from the Certification Council for Professional Dog Trainers. Now, host of The Deal with Animals, she enjoys chatting with people who know a lot more than she does about the various research disciplines of Anthrozoology as well as authors, nonprofits, professionals, and enthusiasts! Credits: The Deal With Animals is hosted and edited by Marika. Music was composed by Kai Strandskov. Editing for this episode by Natasha Matsaert Recording and post production software by Zencastr and hosting provided by Anchor. This Podcast is part of the IROAR Animals Podcasting Network 
56:34
October 17, 2022
40: Aggression in Dogs Con Mini-Series: A Dog's World with Marco Adda Part 4
40: Aggression in Dogs Con Mini-Series: A Dog's World with Marco Adda Part 4
Part 4 of the Aggression in Dogs Conference Mini-Series We discuss Marco's work with wolves and free roaming dogs and takeaways form the conference so far! Guest: Independent researcher, founder and director of AEDC Anthrozoology Education Dogs Canines and PFAH Portugal Focus Animal Help. He leads in-person and online educational programs on dog behavior, free-ranging dogs and wolves. He has studied free-ranging dogs in various countries, conducted field research on Bali dogs, and introduced dogs to schools in Indonesia, Thailand, and Malaysia. He also studied sledge dogs in Quebec, Dingoes in Australia, and wolves in the UK. He supported the rescue of animals in disasters in Indonesia and Portugal.  Member of the International Society for Anthrozoology, the Animal Behavior Society, and board member for the international Anthrozoology Symposium, Romania. Book Recommendation: A Dog's World: Imagining the Lives of Dogs in a World without Humans By Jessica Pierce and Marc Bekoff Host: Marika completed her MA in Anthrozoology at the University of Exeter, UK in 2016 and upon moving back to the Seattle area of Washington state she joined the board of Homeward Pet Adoption Center. She also holds a University degree in Zoology (UW) and a CPDT-KA from the Certification Council for Professional Dog Trainers. Now, host of The Deal with Animals, she enjoys chatting with people who know a lot more than she does about the various research disciplines of Anthrozoology as well as authors, nonprofits, professionals, and enthusiasts! Credits: The Deal With Animals is hosted by Marika. Music was composed by Kai Strandskov. Editing for this episode by Marika Bell Recording and post production software by Zencastr and hosting provided by Anchor. This Podcast is part of the IROAR Animals Podcasting Network  This podcast was produced on Historical Tribal Land of the Quinault Indian Nation and The Snoqualmie Tribe Ancestral Lands
51:23
October 10, 2022
39: Aggression in Dogs Con Mini-Series: with Jessica Wheatcraft, CDBC, CPDT-KA Part 5
39: Aggression in Dogs Con Mini-Series: with Jessica Wheatcraft, CDBC, CPDT-KA Part 5
Part 5 of the Aggression in Dogs Conference Mini-Series I talk with Jessica Wheatcraft about her work with aggression in dogs and leash reactivity.  Guest: Jessica is the Owner and Director of Behavior and Training at Instinct Dog Training San Diego. She and her team help San Diego dogs and humans live better lives through practical, positive, and effective training & behavior programs. Jessica has over 15 years of training and behavior consulting experience, working with thousands of pet dogs and their families. She has specialized in behavior issues for the past 10 years, specifically leash reactivity and aggression cases. She takes a comprehensive approach in understanding each individual dog, and tailoring her training plan accordingly. Book Recommendation: Atomic Habits: An Easy & Proven Way to Build Good Habits & Break Bad Ones, by James Clear Host: Marika completed her MA in Anthrozoology at the University of Exeter, UK in 2016 and upon moving back to the Seattle area of Washington state she joined the board of Homeward Pet Adoption Center. She also holds a University degree in Zoology (UW) and a CPDT-KA from the Certification Council for Professional Dog Trainers. Now, host of The Deal with Animals, she enjoys chatting with people who know a lot more than she does about the various research disciplines of Anthrozoology as well as authors, nonprofits, professionals, and enthusiasts! Credits: The Deal With Animals is hosted by Marika. Music was composed by Kai Strandskov. Editing for this episode by Marika Bell Recording and post production software by Zencastr and hosting provided by Anchor. This Podcast is part of the IROAR Animals Podcasting Network  This podcast was produced on Historical Tribal Land of the Quinault Indian Nation and The Snoqualmie Tribe Ancestral Lands
42:51
October 07, 2022
38: Aggression in Dogs Con Mini-Series: with Suzanne Clothier Part 4
38: Aggression in Dogs Con Mini-Series: with Suzanne Clothier Part 4
Part 4 of the Aggression in Dogs Conference Mini-Series  Today I had the great of pleasure talking with Suzanne Clothier. The creator of "Relationship Centered Training" and the Author of one of my favorite books, Bones Would Rain from the Sky: Deepening Our Relationships with Dogs.  Guest: Suzanne Clothier has worked with animals professionally since 1977. Her Relationship Centered Training™ approach blends science and heart to create humane, effective and practical solutions for dogs and the people who work with them, whether professional working dogs or couch warming companions. She has presented workshops around the world on a broad range of topics. An innovative trainer always seeking better ways to understand, assess and improve what we do with and for dogs, Suzanne has developed a variety of Relationship Centered Training techniques, including Treat/Retreat. The author of the ground-breaking Bones Would Rain from the Sky: Deepening Our Relationships With Dogs (Warner, 2002) and many other books, DVDs and training tools, she is currently offering online courses for trainers and dog owners. A long time breeder of German Shepherds, 11 generations of her dogs have been successful in multiple dog sports, SAR, therapy work, and as guide dog breeding stock. She lives on a working farm in upstate New York with husband John Rice, and their considerable animal family. Book Recommendations: Kinship with All Life, by J. Allen Boone and The Sound of a Wild Snail Eating by Elisabeth Tova Bailey Host: Marika completed her MA in Anthrozoology at the University of Exeter, UK in 2016 and upon moving back to the Seattle area of Washington state she joined the board of Homeward Pet Adoption Center. She also holds a University degree in Zoology (UW) and a CPDT-KA from the Certification Council for Professional Dog Trainers. Now, host of The Deal with Animals, she enjoys chatting with people who know a lot more than she does about the various research disciplines of Anthrozoology as well as authors, nonprofits, professionals, and enthusiasts! Credits: The Deal With Animals is hosted by Marika. Music was composed by Kai Strandskov. Editing for this episode by Marika Bell Recording and post production software by Zencastr and hosting provided by Anchor. This Podcast is part of the IROAR Animals Podcasting Network  This podcast was produced on Historical Tribal Land of the Quinault Indian Nation and The Snoqualmie Tribe Ancestral Lands
01:05:42
October 05, 2022
36: Aggression in Dogs Con Mini-Series: with Laura Monaco Torelli Part 3
36: Aggression in Dogs Con Mini-Series: with Laura Monaco Torelli Part 3
Part 3 of the Aggression in Dogs Conference Mini-Series   I talk with Laura Monaco Torelli, KPA CTP/Faculty Instructor, CPDT-KA, about her work with animals in zoos and aquariums as well as discuss her conference talk: The Great Expectations of Cooperative Care: Unravel the Who, Where, What, and Why of Husbandry Behaviors.   Guest: Laura Monaco Torelli is the founder of Animal Behavior Training Concepts in Chicago, Illinois. She began her career in 1991 at Chicago’s Shedd Aquarium, where she trained beluga whales, dolphins, sea otters, seals, river otters, and penguins. Laura serves as a Faculty Instructor with Karen Pryor Academy for Animal Training & Behavior (KPA), and as a Teaching Assistant for Dr. Susan G. Friedman’s Living & Learning with Animals online course. She offers private training at West Loop Veterinary Care, located in downtown Chicago.  Book Recommendation: Crucial Conversations: Tools for Talking When Stakes are High, by Kerry Patterson   Host: Marika completed her MA in Anthrozoology at the University of Exeter, UK in 2016 and upon moving back to the Seattle area of Washington state she joined the board of Homeward Pet Adoption Center. She also holds a University degree in Zoology (UW) and a CPDT-KA from the Certification Council for Professional Dog Trainers. Now, host of The Deal with Animals, she enjoys chatting with people who know a lot more than she does about the various research disciplines of Anthrozoology as well as authors, nonprofits, professionals, and enthusiasts! Credits: The Deal With Animals is hosted by Marika. Music was composed by Kai Strandskov. Editing for this episode by Marika Bell Recording and post production software by Zencastr and hosting provided by Anchor. This Podcast is part of the IROAR Animals Podcasting Network   This podcast was produced on Historical Tribal Land of the Quinault Indian Nation and The Snoqualmie Tribe Ancestral Lands
01:00:37
October 04, 2022
37: Raising Children and Dogs with Colleen Pelar, CPDT(S5)
37: Raising Children and Dogs with Colleen Pelar, CPDT(S5)
Episode 4 of Season 5: Kids and Other Animals   I chat with Colleen Pelar, CPDT, Author of, Kids and Dogs: A Professional's Guide to Helping Families. Living with Kids and Dogs ... Without Losing Your Mind, and Puppy Training for Kids.  We discuss  Tolerance vs. Enjoyment, breaking down the myth of the 'good dog', respecting canine boundaries and individuality. Having children should not mean that you can't have a dog, but it does require careful consideration of the needs of all human and nonhuman family members. Guest: Dogs and people have always fascinated Colleen Pelar. When she was a dog trainer, her favorite part of the job wasn't teaching the dog, but improving the relationship between dogs and their people. Book Recommendations: The Great Gracey Chase: Stop that Dog! by Cynthia Rylant and Plenty in Life Is Free: Reflections on Dogs, Training and Finding Grace By Kathy Sdao Both are social species, hard-wired to connect, and she loved offering simple, practical tips for building those connections. That's why, over more than 25 years of dog training, she spoke at scores of veterinary and training conferences and wrote three books to help parents and children have successful relationships with their dogs. https://colleenpelar.com/    Livingwithkidsanddogs.com Host: Marika completed her MA in Anthrozoology at the University of Exeter, UK in 2016 and upon moving back to the Seattle area of Washington state she joined the board of Homeward Pet Adoption Center. She also holds a University degree in Zoology (UW) and a CPDT-KA from the Certification Council for Professional Dog Trainers. Now, host of The Deal with Animals, she enjoys chatting with people who know a lot more than she does about the various research disciplines of Anthrozoology as well as authors, nonprofits, professionals, and enthusiasts! Credits: The Deal With Animals is hosted and edited by Marika. Music was composed by Kai Strandskov. Editing for this episode by Natasha Matsaert  Recording and post production software by Zencastr and hosting provided by Anchor. This Podcast is part of the IROAR Animals Podcasting Network 
01:09:49
October 03, 2022
35: Aggression in Dogs Con Mini-Series: with Dr. Amber Batson Part 2
35: Aggression in Dogs Con Mini-Series: with Dr. Amber Batson Part 2
Part 2 of the Aggression in Dogs Conference Mini Series  We talk to Dr. Amber Batson about her work as a veterinarian and behaviorist. She is speaking on the first day of the aggression n Dogs Conference 2022 on the  topic, "Sometimes, it might be Zebras when you hear Hoofs. Unique Medical Conditions in Aggression Cases". We discuss this as well as what she is excited to learn at the conference.   Guest: Amber graduated from the Royal Vet College, London in 1999 and went straight in to first opinion vet practice.  She soon realized that many elements of her consultations included behaviour, whether as a symptom of potential disease (my dog’s sleeping more than they used to, my dogs more irritable than they used to be), or a direct request for help in a behaviour problem (my dog wont stop eating the cushions) or because understanding dog behaviour facilitated a better relationship with the dog and their human. In 2007 she set up Understand Animals, UK, a business providing behaviour and welfare education for both animal caregivers and professionals. Today she still works in vet practice seeing medical and behaviour cases,  but also teaches behaviour worldwide and works as a legal expert witness in welfare cases.  Book Recommendation: Why Zebras Don't Get Ulcers: An Updated Guide to Stress, Stress Related Diseases, and Coping (2nd Edition) by Robert Sapolsky and The Body Keeps the Score: Brain, Mind, and Body in the Healing of Trauma by Bessel van der Kolk M.D.  Host: Marika completed her MA in Anthrozoology at the University of Exeter, UK in 2016 and upon moving back to the Seattle area of Washington state she joined the board of Homeward Pet Adoption Center. She also holds a University degree in Zoology (UW) and a CPDT-KA from the Certification Council for Professional Dog Trainers. Now, host of The Deal with Animals, she enjoys chatting with people who know a lot more than she does about the various research disciplines of Anthrozoology as well as authors, nonprofits, professionals, and enthusiasts! Credits: The Deal With Animals is hosted by Marika. Music was composed by Kai Strandskov. Editing for this episode by Marika Bell Recording and post production software by Zencastr and hosting provided by Anchor. This Podcast is part of the IROAR Animals Podcasting Network  This podcast was produced on Historical Tribal Land of the Quinault Indian Nation and The Snoqualmie Tribe Ancestral Lands
46:23
September 28, 2022
34: Aggression in Dogs Conference Mini-Series: with Michael Shikashio, CDBC Part 1
34: Aggression in Dogs Conference Mini-Series: with Michael Shikashio, CDBC Part 1
Part 1 of the Aggression in Dogs Conference Mini Series We talk to Mike about his work in aggression cases and how he is been able to bring education on how to work with aggression cases to more clients and dog trainers through his podcast, The Bitey End Of The Dog , The Aggression in Dogs Conference, as well as ongoing learning through his aggression Master Course.  Guest: Michael is fully Certified through the International Association of Animal Behavior Consultants and is one  of fewer than 300 CDBCs worldwide. He is the founder  of the Aggression in Dogs Master Course and currently  teaches trainers and behavior consultants in more than  25 countries how to work with aggression cases.  Book Recommendation: Culture Clash: A New Way Of Understanding The Relationship Between Humans And Domestic Dogs by Jean Donaldson Host: Marika completed her MA in Anthrozoology at the University of Exeter, UK in 2016 and upon moving back to the Seattle area of Washington state she joined the board of Homeward Pet Adoption Center. She also holds a University degree in Zoology (UW) and a CPDT-KA from the Certification Council for Professional Dog Trainers. Now, host of The Deal with Animals, she enjoys chatting with people who know a lot more than she does about the various research disciplines of Anthrozoology as well as authors, nonprofits, professionals, and enthusiasts! Credits: The Deal With Animals is hosted by Marika. Music was composed by Kai Strandskov. Editing for this episode by Marika Bell Recording and post production software by Zencastr and hosting provided by Anchor. This Podcast is part of the IROAR Animals Podcasting Network 
55:14
September 26, 2022
33: Equine Assisted Emotional Learning with Michelle Atterby (S5)
33: Equine Assisted Emotional Learning with Michelle Atterby (S5)
Episode 3 of Series 5: Children and Other Animals Michelle and Marika Discuss how interactions with animals can help children (and adults) develop socially and emotionally. And now I need to bring my kids to visit the sanctuary! Guest: Michelle Atterby of Eco-Wisdom Sanctuary and Eco Wisdom Adventures: Environmental Education After School Program  Michelle's Book Recommendation -The Animal's Agenda by Marc Bekoff and Jessica Pierce Host: Marika completed her MA in Anthrozoology at the University of Exeter, UK in 2016 and upon moving back to the Seattle area of Washington state she joined the board of Homeward Pet Adoption Center. She also holds a University degree in Zoology (UW) and a CPDT-KA from the Certification Council for Professional Dog Trainers. Now, host of The Deal with Animals, she enjoys chatting with people who know a lot more than she does about the various research disciplines of Anthrozoology as well as authors, nonprofits, professionals, and enthusiasts! Credits: The Deal With Animals is hosted and edited by Marika. Music was composed by Kai Strandskov Recording and post production software by Zencastr and hosting provided by Anchor. This Podcast is part of the IROAR Animals Podcasting Network 
52:12
September 19, 2022
32: Animal Advocacy in The Classroom with Mike Farley (S5)
32: Animal Advocacy in The Classroom with Mike Farley (S5)
Episode 2 of Series 5: Children and Other Animals We are talking with Mike Farley, founder of the Educators for Animals Conference about how parents, teachers and other faculty can start to think about how animals are presented and represented in the classroom setting. Book Recommendation: Beasts of Burden: Animal and Disability Liberation Host: Marika completed her MA in Anthrozoology at the University of Exeter, UK in 2016 and upon moving back to the Seattle area of Washington state she joined the board of Homeward Pet Adoption Center. She also holds a University degree in Zoology (UW) and a CPDT-KA from the Certification Council for Professional Dog Trainers. Now, host of The Deal with Animals, she enjoys chatting with people who know a lot more than she does about the various research disciplines of Anthrozoology as well as authors, nonprofits, professionals, and enthusiasts! Credits: The Deal With Animals is hosted and edited by Marika. Music was composed by Kai Strandskov. Recording and post production software by Zencastr and hosting provided by Anchor. This Podcast is part of the IROAR Animals Podcasting Network 
52:30
September 12, 2022
31: Attitudes Towards Animals with Matti Wilks (S5)
31: Attitudes Towards Animals with Matti Wilks (S5)
Episode 1 of Series 5: Children and Other Animals Why do some some people choose to stop eating meat? Would a child save a dog or a person from a sinking boat? Questions like this are posed by Matti and her colleagues to find out how our moral circles are formed and change into adulthood. The implications towards distant others (culturally and physically) are important.  Book Recommendation: The Most Good You Can Do: How Effective Altruism Is Changing Ideas About Living Ethically Science Daily Article Fearful Great Danes provide new insights to genetic causes of fear Guest: Matti Wilks is a Lecturer (Assistant Professor) in the Department of Psychology at the University of Edinburgh. Her background is in social and developmental psychology and she is interested in understanding (and overcoming!) psychological barriers to prosocial and ethical behaviour. At the moment, her research focuses on the factors that shape our moral circles, and why some people are so motivated to help distant others. In addition, she studies attitudes towards cultured meat and why we think natural things are good and unnatural things are bad. Host: Marika completed her MA in Anthrozoology at the University of Exeter, UK in 2016 and upon moving back to the Seattle area of Washington state she joined the board of Homeward Pet Adoption Center. She also holds a University degree in Zoology (UW) and a CPDT-KA from the Certification Council for Professional Dog Trainers. Now, host of The Deal with Animals, she enjoys chatting with people who know a lot more than she does about the various research disciplines of Anthrozoology as well as authors, nonprofits, professionals, and enthusiasts! Credits: The Deal With Animals is hosted and edited by Marika. Music was composed by Kai Strandskov.  Recording and post production software by Zencastr and hosting provided by Anchor. This Podcast is part of the IROAR Animals Podcasting Network 
47:44
September 05, 2022
Series 5 Trailer- Children and Other Animals
Series 5 Trailer- Children and Other Animals
What's the deal with series 5!
03:30
August 29, 2022
E30: Environmental Justice with Akisha Townsend-Eaton
E30: Environmental Justice with Akisha Townsend-Eaton
Episode 8 of Series 3: Equity and Social Justice in Animal Advocacy What does Environmental Justice have to do with the connection between humans and other animals?  Today we're talking to Akisha Townsend Eaton, chief of policy and environmental justice division at companion animals for reform and equity. We're talking about Disaster relief, Critical services like Cooling centers in a heat wave, temporary housing, access to healthcare. We're going to discuss how Covid has affected pet owners and community solutions! ; How we can change things for the better through supporting local initiatives and educating ourselves around how to prepare for major disasters as well as everyday issues like air pollution and asthma. Guest: Akisha brings over a decade of animal law and policy experience to her current role as Chief of Policy, Environmental Justice Division at CARE. Prior to joining CARE, she worked as a managing attorney for the Animal Legal Defense Fund and as legislative attorney and policy advisor at various other national and international animal protection organizations. Akisha is an AmeriCorps alumni and is currently an active contributor to the Black Appalachian Coalition (BLAC) as well as the legal redress, environmental justice, and economic development committees of her local NAACP chapter, which recently awarded her the Prince and Cora Mack Humanitarian Award. Akisha's Book Recommendation- The Sum of Us by Heather McGhee   Care Redi Training  https://www.bringfido.com/ https://careawo.org/leadership/  akisha@careawo.org Host: Marika completed her MA in Anthrozoology at the University of Exeter, UK in 2016 and upon moving back to the Seattle area of Washington state she joined the board of Homeward Pet Adoption Center. She also holds a University degree in Zoology (UW) and a CPDT-KA from the Certification Council for Professional Dog Trainers. Now, host of The Deal with Animals, she enjoys chatting with people who know a lot more than she does about the various research disciplines of Anthrozoology as well as authors, nonprofits, professionals, and enthusiasts! Credits: The Deal With Animals is hosted and edited by Marika. Music was composed by Kai Strandskov Recording and post production software by Zencastr and hosting provided by Anchor. This Podcast is part of the IROAR Animals Podcasting Network 
58:13
August 15, 2022
E29: Your Wild Neighbors with Alyssa Ellison
E29: Your Wild Neighbors with Alyssa Ellison
Episode 5 of Series 4: Wildlife Encounters  We chat with Animal Control Sheriff, Alyssa Ellison in Virginia,  about her work with wildlife around the state.  Guest: Alyssa Ellison became chief of the Louisa County Sheriff’s Office’s animal control unit in 2019. She works closely with veterinarians and fellow law enforcement on everything from high-profile animal seizures to lost pets. -The Central Virginian. She has also worked in Washington DC as a Shelter Manager and an Animal Control Officer for The Washington Humane Society. Host: Marika completed her MA in Anthrozoology at the University of Exeter, UK in 2016 and upon moving back to the Seattle area of Washington state she joined the board of Homeward Pet Adoption Center. She also holds a University degree in Zoology (UW) and a CPDT-KA from the Certification Council for Professional Dog Trainers. Now, host of The Deal with Animals, she enjoys chatting with people who know a lot more than she does about the various research disciplines of Anthrozoology as well as authors, nonprofits, professionals, and enthusiasts! Credits: The Deal With Animals is hosted and edited by Marika. Music was composed by Kai Strandskov Recording and post production software by Zencastr and hosting provided by Anchor.  This Podcast is part of the IROAR Animals Podcasting Network 
45:37
August 01, 2022
E28: Animal Care Deserts, Accessibility and Love with CARE CEO, James Evans
E28: Animal Care Deserts, Accessibility and Love with CARE CEO, James Evans
Episode 7 of Series 3: Equity and Social Justice in Animal Advocacy I talk with CARE CEO, James Evans about the cause of animal care deserts and how a change in perceptions and accessibility can change human and animal lives for good. This episode brings home the issues facing our BIPOC communities and the animals that live with them.  Guest: James is a multi-awarding winning creative strategist and leader with 25+ years of experience developing relationships between organizations and their constituents. His expertise has been utilized across a diverse group of brands, both non for profit, and for profit. Specific brand experience includes: Timberland, Disney, The Mills Corporation, NAACP, Baltimore Health Department, Maryland Health Department, Kennedy Krieger Institute, CVS Caremark’s Project Health, Safe Streets Baltimore and many other brands. James and his team have initiated several programs, including the ground breaking Gulf Spay/Neuter Campaign and HSUS’ Pets for Life, which helped reshape animal welfare, while simultaneously advocating for more diversity and inclusion throughout the field. He has also played an integral part in AWO organization’s projects, including HSUS’ Adopters Welcome, Outdoor Cats Research, Stop Puppy Mills and Spayathon, as well as Best Friends Animal Society’s Outreach Action Team, Maddie’s Fund, and SPCA of Texas’ Let’s Fix This Campaign. Email:james@careawo.org Host: Marika completed her MA in Anthrozoology at the University of Exeter, UK in 2016 and upon moving back to the Seattle area of Washington state she joined the board of Homeward Pet Adoption Center. She also holds a University degree in Zoology (UW) and a CPDT-KA from the Certification Council for Professional Dog Trainers. Now, host of The Deal with Animals, she enjoys chatting with people who know a lot more than she does about the various research disciplines of Anthrozoology as well as authors, nonprofits, professionals, and enthusiasts! Credits: The Deal With Animals is hosted and edited by Marika. Music was composed by Kai Strandskov, https://kaistrandskov.com/ Recording and post production software by Zencastr and hosting provided by Anchor.
01:04:33
July 18, 2022
E27: Summer Special! with Clive Wynne Its all the about dogs...
E27: Summer Special! with Clive Wynne Its all the about dogs...
Summer Special Episode! Prof. Clive Wynne and I discuss dog emotions, why they form attachments to humans, what the biggest questions in dog studies are right now, and the past and future of sheltering.  Guest: Clive was born and raised on the Isle of Wight, off the south coast of England, studied at University College London, he got his Ph.D. at Edinburgh University before setting off on his travels. After time at the Ruhr-Universitat Bochum, Duke University, Universität Konstanz, the University of Western Australia and the University of Florida, he came to Arizona State University in 2013. Over the years he has studied the behavior of many species - ranging from pigeons to dunnarts (a small mouse-like marsupial), but some years ago he found a way to meld his childhood love of dogs with his professional training and now studies and teaches the behavior of dogs and their wild relatives. https://www.clivewynne.com/ Recommended Book: Fishing Dogs: a Guide to the History, Talents & Training... By Raymond Coppinger Host: Marika completed her MA in Anthrozoology at the University of Exeter, UK in 2016 and upon moving back to the Seattle area of Washington state she joined the board of Homeward Pet Adoption Center. She also holds a University degree in Zoology (UW) and a CPDT-KA from the Certification Council for Professional Dog Trainers. Now, host of The Deal with Animals, she enjoys chatting with people who know a lot more than she does about the various research disciplines of Anthrozoology as well as authors, nonprofits, professionals, and enthusiasts! Credits: The Deal With Animals is hosted and edited by Marika. Music was composed by Kai Strandskov, https://kaistrandskov.com/ Recording and post production software by Zencastr and hosting provided by Anchor.
01:16:53
July 04, 2022
E26: Pets in Poverty: Pet Retention and Housing with Amanda Arrington, Senior Director or HSUS' Pets for Life
E26: Pets in Poverty: Pet Retention and Housing with Amanda Arrington, Senior Director or HSUS' Pets for Life
Episode 6 of Series 3: Equity and Social Justice in Animal Advocacy We discuss why understanding the history of The New Deal, Red Lining, and wealth inequity matters when we are trying to help companion animals. How can we, as pet advocates, be proactive about helping the pets in underserved areas of our community. And how serving these communities actually keep animals in their homes.  Guest: Amanda Arrington (she/her) is the Senior Director of the groundbreaking Pets for Life (PFL) program at the Humane Society of the United States and previously served as a lobbyist and North Carolina State Director for HSUS.? With PFL, Amanda guides a social justice-driven approach to create equity in and access to pet resources and information for people in underserved communities. Under her leadership the program has been implemented in over 50 markets across the country and is working to make companion animal welfare a more just and inclusive movement. Amanda is also the founder and Executive Director of Beyond Fences, a non-profit based in Durham, NC. The organization builds trust and relationships in communities by providing no-fee pet services and support for people living in underserved areas. Amanda currently serves as co-chair of The Association for Animal Welfare Advancement’s DEI committee and received the prestigious American Veterinary Medical Association Humane Award in 2018. Host: Marika completed her MA in Anthrozoology at the University of Exeter, UK in 2016 and upon moving back to the Seattle area of Washington state she joined the board of Homeward Pet Adoption Center. She also holds a University degree in Zoology (UW) and a CPDT-KA from the Certification Council for Professional Dog Trainers. Now, host of The Deal with Animals, she enjoys chatting with people who know a lot more than she does about the various research disciplines of Anthrozoology as well as authors, nonprofits, professionals, and enthusiasts! Credits: The Deal With Animals is hosted and edited by Marika. Music was composed by Kai Strandskov, https://kaistrandskov.com/ Recording and post production software by Zencastr and hosting provided by Anchor.
49:00
June 20, 2022
E25: Falconry with Silvia Mutterle
E25: Falconry with Silvia Mutterle
Episode 4 of Series 4: Wildlife Encounters  Learn about the ancient connection between humans and raptors with Falconer, Silvia Mutterle.  Guest: "Born in Italy but a citizen of the world, I’ve nurtured in time a deep connection with nature and birds of prey in particular. I consider other animals as my guides and mentors in a neo-shamanic perspective, and I believe in the human-hawk entanglement as a form of post-humanist co-education. As a founder of Falconeria Zen www.falconeriazen.org Silvia's work with the birds aims to establish a deep understanding and vibrant interconnection between humans, other animals and the environment in the heartfelt awareness that everything is interconnected. Falconeria Zen wants to offer a very respectful and sometimes spiritual approach to birds of prey as some of the most iconic and worshiped animals in human perception, because they represent the incarnation of all those height qualities that humans most admire. "I humbly observe, feel and establish a connection with them so that I can pass their message on to other fellow humans." Host: Marika completed her MA in Anthrozoology at the University of Exeter, UK in 2016 and upon moving back to the Seattle area of Washington state she joined the board of Homeward Pet Adoption Center. She also holds a University degree in Zoology (UW) and a CPDT-KA from the Certification Council for Professional Dog Trainers. Now, host of The Deal with Animals, she enjoys chatting with people who know a lot more than she does about the various research disciplines of Anthrozoology as well as authors, nonprofits, professionals, and enthusiasts! Credits: The Deal With Animals is hosted and edited by Marika. Music was composed by Kai Strandskov, https://kaistrandskov.com/ Recording and post production software by Zencastr and hosting provided by Anchor.
42:59
June 06, 2022
E24: Companion Animals for Reform and Equity with COO Jen Evans
E24: Companion Animals for Reform and Equity with COO Jen Evans
Episode 5 of Series 3: Equity and Social Justice in Animal Advocacy I chat with CARE'S COO, Jen Evans, about why reform is needed in the animal care industry and what steps CARE is taking to help the process along.  We discuss CARE'S efforts in research, sharing narratives, and policy change. All areas that, according to Jen, could use the perspective of a BIPOC person to reform in order to promote an atmosphere of listening and inclusion for human and well as companion animal well-being.  Guest:Jennifer Evans studied studio art in school and has over 20 years experience in marketing and publishing as both a designer and Art Director. She is the COO and Art Director for Illume Communications and is a wardrobe stylist. Jennifer is also the Chief Operating Officer for CARE. As a highly organized logistics expert, she manages CARE’s staff and workflow. Aside from her visual communications and organizational skills, Jen brings an in-depth knowledge of social media marketing strategies and narrative production. Much of her recent work within the animal welfare field has included innovative campaign strategies and production for large scale projects such as Breaking Bias for HSUS Expo 2019, Stop Puppy Mills Video campaign, Petstablished, Let’s Fix This, HSUS’ Spayathon, and HSUS’ Adopter’s Welcome toolkit. Host: Marika completed her MA in Anthrozoology at the University of Exeter, UK in 2016 and upon moving back to the Seattle area of Washington state she joined the board of Homeward Pet Adoption Center. She also holds a University degree in Zoology (UW) and a CPDT-KA from the Certification Council for Professional Dog Trainers. Now, host of The Deal with Animals, she enjoys chatting with people who know a lot more than she does about the various research disciplines of Anthrozoology as well as authors, nonprofits, professionals, and enthusiasts! Credits: The Deal With Animals is hosted and edited by Marika. Music was composed by Kai Strandskov, https://kaistrandskov.com/ Recording and post production software by Zencastr and hosting provided by Anchor.
01:00:28
May 23, 2022
E23: Hunting Women: Exploring a hunter's perspective on killing, providing, and connection to the natural world.
E23: Hunting Women: Exploring a hunter's perspective on killing, providing, and connection to the natural world.
Episode 3 of Series 4: Wildlife Encounters I'm talking with Sue Alexander, full time dog trainer and part time hunter. We discuss gender roles, the goal of a hunter (hint its not necessarily what you think), providing for the community, and the benefits of hunting to conservation.  Guest: Sue Alexander is the co-owner with her husband, John, of Dogs in the Park, a dog training and behaviour consulting company in Guelph, Ontario, Canada. Sue has been actively involved in dog sports for the past twenty years, competing in obedience, rally and agility. She is an experienced service dog trainer, specializing in training dogs for those with psychiatric disabilities. Sue was a content editor of the critically acclaimed book “Canine Behavior A Photo Illustrated Handbook.” Outside of the dog fancy, Sue is active in Powwow dancing, hiking and reading. Host: Marika started her career with non-human animals while obtaining her University degree in Zoology (UW). Initially she worked with large carnivores at zoos but after taking a course in dog training, and obtaining her CPDT-KA from the Certification Council for Professional Dog Trainers, she caught the animal welfare ‘bug’ and has been working with shelters and sanctuaries internationally for more than a decade. During this time she received the Susan Wilkens Achievement Award from APDTAU for her work in the sheltering community and The Queen's Diamond Jubilee award for Meritorious Volunteer Service. She completed her MA in Anthrozoology at the University of Exeter, UK in 2016 and upon moving back to the Seattle area of Washington state she joined the board of Homeward Pet Adoption Center. She served a term as the board president in 2020 and continues to serve on the leadership team as the past president. Now, host of The Deal with Animals, she enjoys chatting with people who know a lot more than she does about the various research disciplines of Anthrozoology as well as authors, nonprofits, professionals, and enthusiasts! Credits: The Deal With Animals is hosted and edited by Marika. Music was composed by Kai Strandskov, https://kaistrandskov.com/ Recording and post production software by Zencastr and hosting provided by Anchor.
01:06:01
May 09, 2022
E22: Ecofeminism and Entangled Empathy with Lori Gruen
E22: Ecofeminism and Entangled Empathy with Lori Gruen
Episode 4 of Series 3: Equity and Social Justice in Animal Advocacy Ecofeminist Lori Gruen, shares insights with us about ecofeminist values and the connection between the oppression of women, people of global majority, animals, and the environment.  Guest: Lori Gruen is the William Griffin Professor of Philosophy at Wesleyan University.  She is also a professor of Feminist, Gender, and Sexuality Studies, Science in Society, and founder and coordinator of Wesleyan Animal Studies.  She is the author and editor of 15 books, including Entangled Empathy (Lantern, 2015); Critical Terms for Animal Studies (Chicago, 2018) and Ethics and Animals: An Introduction (Cambridge, 2011, second edition 2022). Gruen’s work lies at the intersection of ethical and political theory and practice, she critically interrogates oppressive systems that impact those often overlooked in traditional ethical investigations, e.g. women, people of color, incarcerated people, non-human animals. Gruen has been involved in animal issues as a writer, teacher, and activist for over 25 years. Her relationships with scholars thinking about animals, activists working to protect animals, and, perhaps most importantly, with many different animals, uniquely inform her perspective on how we need to rethink our engagement with other animals.  She has published extensively on topics in animal ethics and ecofeminism and has become known as a bit of an archivist for chimpanzees in the US given her work documenting the history of The First 100 chimpanzees in research in the US (http://first100chimps.wesleyan.edu) and the journey to sanctuary of the remaining chimpanzees in research labs, The Last 1000 (http://last1000chimps.com). See: www.lorigruen.com Host: Marika started her career with non-human animals while obtaining her University degree in Zoology (UW). Initially she worked with large carnivores at zoos but after taking a course in dog training, and obtaining her CPDT-KA from the Certification Council for Professional Dog Trainers, she caught the animal welfare ‘bug’ and has been working with shelters and sanctuaries internationally for more than a decade. During this time she received the Susan Wilkens Achievement Award from APDTAU for her work in the sheltering community and The Queen's Diamond Jubilee award for Meritorious Volunteer Service. She completed her MA in Anthrozoology at the University of Exeter, UK in 2016 and upon moving back to the Seattle area of Washington state she joined the board of Homeward Pet Adoption Center. She served a term as the board president in 2020 and continues to serve on the leadership team as the past president. Now, host of The Deal with Animals, she enjoys chatting with people who know a lot more than she does about the various research disciplines of Anthrozoology as well as authors, nonprofits, professionals, and enthusiasts! Credits: The Deal With Animals is hosted and edited by Marika. Music was composed by Kai Strandskov, https://kaistrandskov.com/ Recording and post production software by Zencastr and hosting provided by Anchor.
51:38
April 25, 2022
E21: Spring Special! Hal Herzog: On the the Past, Present, and Future of Anthrozoology
E21: Spring Special! Hal Herzog: On the the Past, Present, and Future of Anthrozoology
We talk with Author of "Some We Love, Some We Hate, Some We Eat", Hal Herzog, about some of the bigger questions facing anthrozoology right now. Where Anthrozoology is going and what got us here in the first place.  Guest: Hal Herzog has been investigating the complex psychology of our interactions with other species for more than two decades. He is particularly interested in how people negotiate real-world ethical dilemmas, and he has studied animal activists, cockfighters, animal researchers, and circus animal trainers. An award-winning teacher and researcher, he has written more than 100 articles and book chapters. His research has been published in journals such as Science, The American Psychologist, The Journal of the Royal Society, The American Scholar, New Scientist, Anthrozoös, BioScience, The Journal of the American Veterinary Medical Association, and Animal Behavior. His work has been covered by Newsweek, Slate, Salon, National Public Radio, Scientific American, USA Today, The Washington Post, The Boston Globe, The Chicago Tribune and many other newspapers.  In 2013, he was given the Distinguished Scholar Award by the International Society for Anthrozoology. Hal Herzog is Professor of Psychology at Western Carolina University and lives in the Smoky Mountains with his wife Mary Jean and their cat Tilly.  Hal’s blog – Animals and Us Hal’s research and some web-accessible articles Host: Marika started her career with non-human animals while obtaining her University degree in Zoology (UW). Initially she worked with large carnivores at zoos but after taking a course in dog training, and obtaining her CPDT-KA from the Certification Council for Professional Dog Trainers, she caught the animal welfare ‘bug’ and has been working with shelters and sanctuaries internationally for more than a decade. During this time she received the Susan Wilkens Achievement Award from APDTAU for her work in the sheltering community and The Queen's Diamond Jubilee award for Meritorious Volunteer Service. She completed her MA in Anthrozoology at the University of Exeter, UK in 2016 and upon moving back to the Seattle area of Washington state she joined the board of Homeward Pet Adoption Center. She served a term as the board president in 2020 and continues to serve on the leadership team as the past president. Now, host of The Deal with Animals, she enjoys chatting with people who know a lot more than she does about the various research disciplines of Anthrozoology as well as authors, nonprofits, professionals, and enthusiasts! Credits: The Deal With Animals is hosted and edited by Marika. Music was composed and performed by Kai Strandskov, https://kaistrandskov.com/ Recording and post production software by Zencastr and hosting provided by Anchor. 
01:13:19
April 11, 2022
E20: A Discussion with Jasmin Singer, Part 2: Animal Advocacy Activist and Editor of Antiracism in Animal Advocacy: Igniting Cultural Transformation
E20: A Discussion with Jasmin Singer, Part 2: Animal Advocacy Activist and Editor of Antiracism in Animal Advocacy: Igniting Cultural Transformation
Episode 3 of Series 3: Equity and Social Justice in Animal Advocacy A discussion with Jasmin Singer, Editor of Encompass Essays Antiracism in Animal Advocacy: Igniting Cultural Transformation....We had a conversation about an issue that is important to all of us and yet both her and I being white, have mostly seen the privileged side of this. So there are moments that we have a difficult time putting into words our thoughts or even recognizing the white privilege that we hold. After the interview Jasmin contacted me with some of the same concerns I had already felt. Neither of us  being experts, Had we done Justice to the topic? Could we put this discussion out into the world? In the end we decided we should, because just as the book suggested, we were having the difficult conversation and trying to work out how we can make things better. And even if we don't get it right we are going to try and we're going to keep trying. So if nothing else, this is an excellent example of the kind of conversation that we all need to be having! Because we're not going to get it right the first time, and making the effort is important. Perhaps by sharing our effort we will encourage others to do the same. Listen to the audio essays form the book on Our Hen House Podcast!  Episode 612.5: "Antiracism in Animal Advocacy" Audio Series Episode Part I - Awakening - Our Hen House Bio- Jasmin Singer is the author of The VegNews Guide to Being a Fabulous Vegan (Hachette Go, 2020) and the memoir Always Too Much and Never Enough (Penguin Random House Berkley; 2016). She's the co-founder and co-host of the award-winning Our Hen House podcast and nonprofit (now in its eleventh year), the Director of Content & Partnerships for Kinder Beauty, and the editor of the Encompass Essays: Antiracism in Animal Advocacy: Igniting Cultural Transformation. Jasmin was named a “40 Under 40” by The Advocate Magazine, a top “Eco-Preneur” by Go Magazine, and can be seen in documentaries including Vegucated and The Ghosts In Our Machine. She has been a featured expert on TV shows such as “The Dr. Oz Show,” has contributed to several anthologies and led hundreds of workshops around the globe, and debuted her Tedx talk—“Compassion Unlocks Identity”—last year. Jasmin’s career started twenty years ago as an AIDS-awareness activist with the educational theater company, and she later went on to become the Campaigns Manager for Farm Sanctuary. Jasmin is committed to using personal narrative as a means to create change; emboldening and collaborating with do-gooders to tell their stories; creatively using media as a means of activism; and continuing to learn about the endless overlaps within social justice, and let that information inform her change-making efforts. Theme Music composed by Kai Strandskov www.kaistrandskov.com
45:44
March 28, 2022
E19: Fuzz: When Nature Breaks the Law- A Chat with Author, Mary Roach
E19: Fuzz: When Nature Breaks the Law- A Chat with Author, Mary Roach
Episode 2 of Series 4: Wildlife Encounters Mary Roach's wry humor marries well with the funny but often unfortunate conclusions of human encounters with wildlife. We'll have a lot of fun discussing some stories from the book as well as other things that fascinate 6x New York Times Best Seller, Mary Roach.  We'll be talking about her most recent book, Fuzz: When Nature Breaks the Law. This book has all sorts of fascinating stories and I get to spend 45 minutes talking to her about her experiences writing the book and her personal experiences with wildlife. To be honest, we both geek out a little bit about birds.   Mary Roach is the author of the New York Times bestsellers STIFF, SPOOK, BONK, GULP, GRUNT, and PACKING FOR MARS. Her new book FUZZ: When Nature Breaks the Law, debuts in September 2021. Mary has written for National Geographic, Wired, and The New York Times Magazine, among others, and her TED talk made the TED 20 Most Watched list. She has been a guest editor for Best American Science and Nature Writing, a finalist for the Royal Society's Winton Prize, and a winner of the American Engineering Societies' journalism award, in a category for which, let's be honest, she was the sole entrant. More at www.maryroach.net Theme music for this episode was composed by Kai Strandskov www.kaistrandskov.com
49:32
March 14, 2022
E18: Breaking Stereotypes and Talking About Cats with The TrapKing, Sterling Davis
E18: Breaking Stereotypes and Talking About Cats with The TrapKing, Sterling Davis
Episode 2 of Series 3: Equity and Social Justice in Animal Advocacy The TrapKing, Sterling Davis tells us about Trap-Neuter-Release and how he (and his episode on the new Netflix Series, Cat People) shows his work across the US providing compassionate, accessible, medical care for stray cats.   Sterling Davis works to bridge the gap between the black community and animal welfare work. We're talking about the stereotypes around men and particularly black men and cats. And we are talking about cats. Lots of cats.  Theme music composed by Kai Strandskov www.kaistrandskov.com Paws for a Cause - Netflix documentary on CATS!
45:30
February 28, 2022
E17: The Civet Lovers Club with Phd Candidate, Jes Hooper
E17: The Civet Lovers Club with Phd Candidate, Jes Hooper
Episode 1 of Series 4: Wildlife Encounters What the heck is a civet and why do people love them?! Find out on this episode, the first in series 4, all about wildlife encounters!  Jes Hooper is an Anthrozoology PhD candidate at the University of Exeter in the UK and a member of Exeter’s Anthrozoology as Symbiotic Ethics (EASE) working group. Jes’ current research focuses on human-animal encounters within the trade in exotic wildlife for the pet, coffee, tourism, and zoo industries. Jes’ PhD project, The Civet Project, is a multi-species and multi-sited ethnography following the stories of Viverridae species entangled within live animal trade, with encounters viewed through a trans-species lens. Jes’ work actively engages with interdisciplinary scholarship including collaborations with visual artists, critical tourism academics, conservationists, zookeepers and fellow anthrozoologists. Jes lectures part time on two undergraduate programs in Animal Behaviour, Welfare and Conservation at Plumpton College, Sussex, and blogs under the name Shilo & Patch.
37:45
February 14, 2022
E16: Antiracism in Animal Advocacy Part 1: A Discussion with Encompass Executive Director Aryenish Birdie
E16: Antiracism in Animal Advocacy Part 1: A Discussion with Encompass Executive Director Aryenish Birdie
Episode 1 of Series 3: Equity and Social Justice in Animal Advocacy Battling all forms of oppression will advance the animal rights movement. We can't continue to be ignorant of how inhumane treatment of humans feeds into the abuses of animals. Join me for this important first discussion on Antiracism in Animal Welfare with Aryenish Birdie, Executive Director of Encompass and the newly launched book Antiracism in Animal Advocacy: Igniting Cultural Transformation
35:53
January 31, 2022
New Theme Music!
New Theme Music!
Listen to the next big hit record! You will be wanting to play it to yourself in the car all day!  You will ask the radio to play it because its awesome! You will  listen to every furture episode, no matter the topic,  just to hear the intro! I love it! Here it is, The Deal with Animals Theme Music! Music composed by Kai Strandskov! https://www.facebook.com/KaiStrandskov/ https://kaistrandskov.com/
03:01
January 30, 2022
Series 3 & 4 Trailer: Equity and Social Justice in Animal Advocacy and Wildlife Encounters
Series 3 & 4 Trailer: Equity and Social Justice in Animal Advocacy and Wildlife Encounters
Series Three is taking a look at the growing pains and bright spots of bringing equity and social justice to the animal welfare and many other areas of animal advocacy. You will meet amazing people and learn how you can take steps to move animal welfare into diversity and help all animals along the way. Series Four will be running concurrently (every other week) and will be discussions with humans who live with or have direct contact with wild (non-domesticated) animals. Get ready for some surprising stories!
01:36
January 24, 2022
E15: The History of the Conservation Movement with Author and Journalist, Michelle Nijhuis
E15: The History of the Conservation Movement with Author and Journalist, Michelle Nijhuis
The historical tradition that is The Conservation Movement spans thousands of years. What can we learn from past mistakes and bright spots so that conservation, biodiversity, and the tradition of saving the environment, wildlife and ourselves succeeds? Michelle Nijhuis is the author of the new book Beloved Beasts: Fighting for Life in an Age of Extinction, a history of the modern conservation movement. A project editor at The Atlantic, she is also a longtime contributing editor at High Country News and an award-winning reporter whose work has been published in National Geographic and the New York Times Magazine. She lives in White Salmon, Washington.
53:27
January 17, 2022
E14: Eco-Volunteering or Eco-tourism? Talking to Laura Coleman of Bolivian NGO, Comunidad Inti Wara Yassi
E14: Eco-Volunteering or Eco-tourism? Talking to Laura Coleman of Bolivian NGO, Comunidad Inti Wara Yassi
Talking to Author and Chair of Friends of Inti Wara Yassi, Laura Coleman about the Bolivian NGO, Comunidad Inti Wara Yassi (CIWY). CIWY is a non-profit founded by Nena Baltazar, recognized by Women's World Summit Foundation for her environmental activism. CIWY is dedicated to educating young people in Bolivia about their environment and providing safe haven for illegally trafficked wildlife.  With three wildlife sanctuaries in Bolivia, CIWY invites volunteers worldwide to work directly with their, over 500 animals, including primates and Big Cats. No previous experience needed.  Find out from Author of "The Puma Years", Laura Coleman who has volunteered with Comunidad Inti Wara Yassi for almost two decades.   
40:56
January 03, 2022
E13: Conservation Detection Dogs with Kayla Fratt of Conservation K9
E13: Conservation Detection Dogs with Kayla Fratt of Conservation K9
This may be an aspect of conservation you haven't heard of before. Conservation detection canines; They are trained to scent, track and find endangered species, invasive species, or just dead bats. This topic is fun and entertaining and it doesn't hurt that Kayla is a super optimist.
39:48
December 20, 2021
E12: The Possum Predicament with Researcher, Emily Major
E12: The Possum Predicament with Researcher, Emily Major
Eradicating or Saving the Australian Brushtail Possum in New Zealand? That's the question posed by PhD Candidate, Emily Major.  Emily’s research, examines the mainstream ‘possum-as-pest’ discourse in conservation and considers how compassionate conservation principles could help alleviate suffering and cruelty towards the brushtail possum. In tandem with her research, Emily began her blog, Framing Speciesism, which seeks to bridge the knowledge gap between academic scholarship and the general public. This blog, which discusses the framing of possums in short, digestible posts, can be found at framingspeciesism.com Framing Speciesism framingspeciesism.com
46:05
December 06, 2021
E11: How to Be a Humane Gardener with Nancy Lawson, The Humane Gardener
E11: How to Be a Humane Gardener with Nancy Lawson, The Humane Gardener
Nancy tells us about how to cultivate a beautiful garden that is also safe and inviting for the creatures to visit. Learn about the new HOA law in MD and join in Nancy's citizen science project documenting Monarch Butterfly leaf-scratching behavior. Nancy Lawson is the author of The Humane Gardener: Nurturing a Backyard Habitat for Wildlife, a habitat consultant, and a national speaker on garden ecology. She founded Humane Gardener to pioneer creative planting strategies and other animal-friendly landscaping methods. Lawson’s presentations at diverse venues—from national wildlife refuges to local wildflower preserves—have inspired even seasoned horticulturists and wildlife experts to look at their landscapes in a new way. Certified as a Chesapeake Bay Landscape Professional and master naturalist, she partners with conservation and animal advocacy organizations in central Maryland. Her book and garden have been featured in The New York Times, The Washington Post, and other media outlets.
01:10:05
November 22, 2021
E10: The Vision and Mission of Born Free USA with CEO Angela Grimes
E10: The Vision and Mission of Born Free USA with CEO Angela Grimes
Did you see the Motion Picture Born Free when you were a kid? I did! It was the beginning of my journey into animal advocacy field. Angela Grimes CEO of Born Free USA talks to us about the Vision and Mission of Born Free USA, The Born Free Primate Sanctuary and other projects important to having a "positive impact on animals in the wild and protect their ecosystems in perpetuity, for their own intrinsic value and for the critical roles they play within the natural world". In 2002, Born Free USA was launched in the United States to bring Born Free’s vision to the American public. In 2007, Born Free merged with Animal Protection Institute (API). Born Free operates one of the largest primate sanctuaries in the United States. The 175-acre sanctuary, located in south Texas, provides a safe, permanent home to approximately 400 monkeys, many rescued from abuse in roadside zoos or as “pets” in private homes or retired from animal experimentation. Born Free USA
46:54
November 08, 2021
E9: October Special! Ornithomancy: Birds as Omens, Prophecies and Messengers of the Gods with Folklore Historian, Boria Sax
E9: October Special! Ornithomancy: Birds as Omens, Prophecies and Messengers of the Gods with Folklore Historian, Boria Sax
A special "spooky" episode to celebrate the season. A fascinating look into the 'Animal Lens' (how humans view themselves through other animals). Author of, Avian Illuminations and City of Ravens, among others, fascinates us with stories of the legend of ravens in the Tower of London, Birds as souls, and messengers to the Gods.
33:34
October 25, 2021
E8: Salmon Conservation in the Pacific Northwest with Dan Hintz
E8: Salmon Conservation in the Pacific Northwest with Dan Hintz
If you love the Pacific Northwest, Salmon, and conserving our waterways, then this is definitely the episode for you. 
52:45
October 11, 2021
Series Two Trailer: Conservation
Series Two Trailer: Conservation
Ultimately when humans talk about conserving diversity whether that be animal or plant we're also talking about conserving ourselves and preserving the lifestyles that we want for our children. This series we take a wide-ranging look at a variety of aspects of conservation as it pertains to how humans interact with other animals. We'll be talking to the CEO of Born Free USA, a leading wildlife charity that opposes the exploitation of wild animals in captivity, the owner of K9 conservationists an organization that trains dogs to detect endangered or invasive plants for animals, how to be a humane gardener in your own backyard, salmon habitat restoration and more! Our discussion on conservation will take us across the United States and all the way to New Zealand!
00:56
October 09, 2021
E7: Recognizing and Overcoming Compassion Fatigue with Hilary Hager of HSUS
E7: Recognizing and Overcoming Compassion Fatigue with Hilary Hager of HSUS
This episode just might make you a happier person. You might think this episode would only be for those in animal welfare who feel sad, but just you wait! This is such a fascinating and important area to understand for anyone's mental and physical wellbeing. 
01:27:55
September 27, 2021
E6: Dog Bites: The Fallout and Emotional Toll with Dr. Sara Owczarczak-Garstecka
E6: Dog Bites: The Fallout and Emotional Toll with Dr. Sara Owczarczak-Garstecka
When a dog bites it doesn't just cause physical injury but emotional injury to the victim as well as the dog's caregiver. Dr Sara obtained her PhD researching the emotional toll of dog bites and now works for Dog's Trust, UK on a longitudinal study on health, welfare, and behavior of dogs from puppy to golden years. 
01:00:25
September 13, 2021
E5: Animal Assisted Interactions with Clare Thomas-Pino
E5: Animal Assisted Interactions with Clare Thomas-Pino
Discussing the uses and ethics of Animal Assisted Interactions, Therapies, and services with Clare Thomas-Pinot, adjunct professor and Post Doctoral Candidate at the University of Main. 
49:20
August 30, 2021
E4: Holistic Pet Medicine with Dr. Jackie Sehn
E4: Holistic Pet Medicine with Dr. Jackie Sehn
Dr Jackie and I discuss Holistic pet medicine: What is it, why does she practice it, how does it work with an integrated health plan? Dr Jackie is a Veterinarian specializing in Holistic pet medicine at Mercy Vet on Mercer Island, WA. 
39:27
August 15, 2021
The Welcome Episode
The Welcome Episode
The goals of this podcast and an introduction
05:48
August 09, 2021
E3: A Chat with Suzanne Clothier and Preparing Our Dogs for Post Pandemic Life
E3: A Chat with Suzanne Clothier and Preparing Our Dogs for Post Pandemic Life
So many of us worked from home this year that many people decided to get an animal companion. Many of these dogs have had no experience or are out of practice with being left at home alone. I talk with Author and International dog trainer, Suzanne Clothier, about our dog's mental/emotional health and how to prepare our dogs for post-pandemic life. But just to set some expectations we go on for awhile just having a nice chat about life with animals. 
01:32:14
July 31, 2021
E2: Pet Acupuncture with Dr. Taryn Rathbone
E2: Pet Acupuncture with Dr. Taryn Rathbone
What is pet acupuncture and how does it work? Dr. Taryn Rathbone discusses this and chats about dogs, horses and her experiences with animals. 
30:05
July 16, 2021
E1: One Health: Our Pets and Covid 19 with Dr. Julianne Meisner
E1: One Health: Our Pets and Covid 19 with Dr. Julianne Meisner
Have you wondered if you pets could catch Covid 19 if you get sick? Can they pass it to each other or even bring it home to you? I am talking with Dr Julianne Miesner on her research with companion animals and Covid 19. I'll publish a link to her research and how you can get involved on my webpage  at TheDealWithAnimal.com and on facebook at The Deal With Animals. 
36:38
July 01, 2021
Whats Up Anthrozoology?
Whats Up Anthrozoology?
The Trailer. Introduction to Anthrozoology and myself, Marika S. Bell
00:38
June 13, 2021