The Anti-MLM Podcast
By Emma Rose
Multi level marketing companies are predatory and up to no good. Emma Rose brings you life updates from their post-MLM experience and talks about multi-level marketing in society.
The Anti-MLM PodcastJun 07, 2022
00:00
44:41
Optavia Taste Test
This episode is so exciting! Emma and Francine record together in the same room for the first time and taste test the Optavia bullshit that was sold to Francine's grandpa. Hope your earballs enjoy listening to us eat! Just a head's up there is a lot of crinkling/opening packaging noises.
Jun 07, 202244:41
Proof of Life & Listener Emails
Emma and Francine discuss some MLM life updates and then read listener emails.
May 22, 202246:03
Life After Lularoe
Catch up with Emma and Francine as they discuss what they’ve been up to, the latest Lularoe documentaries, and spend some time reminiscing about their Lularoe adventures.
Dec 14, 202142:37
Chat with Jane Marie: The Rise & Fall of Lularoe
Enjoy this special episode where Emma and Jane Marie chat about the newest Lularoe documentary and all things MLM. Catch The Rise & Fall of Lularoe on Discovery+ starting December 13th!
Dec 11, 202138:33
Bilzerian Juice
In this episode, Emma discusses an update on Dan Bilzerian's Ignite company since we last mentioned it on the show. Then Francine tells us the story of her new MLM friend that she met in Florida and reveals what company samples she was gifted. To wrap up, Francine shares an embarrassing Lularoe story from when she shopped with Emma.
Follow us on Twitter & Instagram @antimlmpod
Be a patron: https://www.patreon.com/antimlmpod
Producer: Cullen Page
References
Forbes Article: https://www.forbes.com/sites/chrisroberts/2020/07/07/dan-bilzerians-company-lost-50-million-last-year-will-likely-fail-auditor/?sh=574820c85d74
Mar 06, 202101:07:30
We Still Got It
Emma and Francine are back with a new episode! Hooray! In this episode, we catch up on life in general and what MLMs have been hovering around in the periphery of our lives.
Producer: Cullen Page
Producer: Cullen Page
Feb 16, 202155:34
Essential Oil Palooza
Look, this episode is like a weird type of sandwich, there’s some pretty wild stuff at the beginning and end but if you can stick it out we hope you enjoy it all for what it is. Emma and Francine had the absolute pleasure of speaking with Katy from the Hello Body! Podcast and she shares her journey with Young Living Oils. We talk about everything from anti-diet culture to the Netflix series (Un)Well episode that features essential oils. At the end of the episode we read an e-mail submission from listener Gretchen about her experience as an aromatherapist in a small town and how essential oil MLMs have impacted her business.
You can find Katy at www.worthitwithkaty.com/
Also, Patreon is now officially a thing that we have so if you want to listen to exclusive content, check out www.patreon.com/antimlmpod
At the end of the episode we mentioned our Twitters and then never ever came back around to talking about those so, if you’re curious about what’s going on over there you can find Emma @blackpansyx and Francine @fancyfrancy0
Sep 09, 202001:49:26
Uhhhhh Optavia
Hello!! This is a new episode of all the same things, but this time we are talking about life through the lens of multi-level marketing company Optavia. Emma and Francine make sure to take long meandering talks through tangents like fake friendships, fast food, and philosophy. Optavia resources: optaviamedia.com/pdf/LEARN/OPTAVIA_LRN-IDS.pdf
optaviamedia.com/pdf/compensation-plan.pdf
optaviamedia.com/pdf/compensation-plan.pdf
Aug 11, 202001:53:04
Leaning In
Emma & Francine catch up to talk about life and get back on the proverbial podcast bike.
Jul 20, 202001:17:16
No Purchase Required*
We are doubling your anti-MLM pleasure today, for double the fun. Francine covers the story of Neora, formerly Nerium, and why they are being sued by the Federal Trade Commission. Then Emma shares the history of MLMs as outlined by a research paper analysis. Your hosts wrap up by chatting about happy things that have happened, and also ringworm.
May 15, 202001:29:38
Re: The FTC Letters
In this episode, Emma and Francine discuss what the Federal Trade Commision is and why they recently sent letters to many multi-level marketing companies. Emma realizes she forgot about an MLM that she joined while in Lularoe and Francine discovers there is a water MLM. Dishonorable mentions include quotes from the FTC letters involving health and wealth claims. They wrap up with some chat about how MLM involvement can hurt your chances of joining the workforce after you’ve left and give some tips on how to manage this issue.
Find us on Instagram and Twitter @antimlmpod or email us at antimlmpod@gmail.com
- FTC Press Release: https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/press-releases/2020/04/ftc-sends-warning-letters-multi-level-marketers-regarding-health
- NYT Article: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/25/us/ftc-mlm-coronavirus-claims.html
- Consumer Tips from the FTC: https://www.consumer.ftc.gov
- Arbonne Response: https://www.arbonne.com/discover/legal/news.shtml
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May 05, 202050:32
Deep Dive: Lularoe, Part 1
Lularoe has announced their new compensation plan with flashy bonuses, and something called the Legacy Program which they liken to a retirement plan. Yup, during a global pandemic this multi level marketing giant is telling their retailers to focus heavily on team building to amass the greatest Boss Babe Pyramid the world has ever seen. Emma and Francine break down what this all means and exactly how it was presented to the retailers. But first, they chat about clapbacks from Inteletravel agents and a new MLM called Ignite. Intro ends at 17:45 if you like to skip ahead. Legacy Program: llr-marketing.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/Documents/LEGACY+PROGRAM_2020_Rev.040720.02.pdf
Compensation Plan: llr-marketing.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/Documents/Rev.033120.08+LEADERSHIP+COMPENSATION+PLAN.pdf
Compensation Plan: llr-marketing.s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/Documents/Rev.033120.08+LEADERSHIP+COMPENSATION+PLAN.pdf
Apr 18, 202001:48:47
Deep Dive BOGO: Inteletravel and PlanNet Marketing
Huge shoutout to @inteletravelcon on Twitter for sending over some of their research on these terribly fascinating multi level marketing companies. If you don’t want to listen to the intro chit chat (but you do, we introduce a new segment called Dishonorable Mentions), start at 9:50. That’s where we get into the murky waters that you could be vacationing in if you sign up with PlanNet Marketing. It’s business as usual amidst a global pandemic at this travel MLM/definitely a pyramid scheme. Emma and Francine close up the episode with some chit chat about what’s to come and the Lularoe Cares initiative. Also, there’s cat stuff.
YTB/California lawsuit: ht tps://www.oag.ca.gov/news/press-releases/brown-ends-ytbs-online-travel-pyramid-scheme
PlanNet Compensation Plan: https://www.plannetmarketing.com/en-us/Your-Business/Compensation-Plan
Card Mill explanation: https://www.travelresearchonline.com/cardmills/3.html
2019 Income Disclosure: https://www.plannetmarketing.com/en-us/Income-Disclosure
Herbalife Marijuana Smuggling: https://behindmlm.com/companies/herbalife/260575-worth-of-weed-found-in-herbalife-meal-shake-tins/
Carl Deikler rant: https://www.instagram.com/tv/B-uR25hHuJI/?igshid=1t12lwxui74q0 CNBC on MLMs & Coronavirus: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2020/04/04/mlm-sellers-asking-for-donations-for-health-workers-marketing-ploy.html
Apr 10, 202001:25:22
Interview: Anne, Rodan + Fields
Huge shout out to Anne for joining us today and sharing her story. She brings her unique expertise to the table and sheds light on her experience with the multi level marketing company Rodan + Fields. Don’t forget to send your stories to antimlmpod@gmail.com or slide into our DMs on IG or Twitter!
Apr 06, 202001:33:15
Deep Dive: Beachbody, Part 1
Francine did some research on Beachbody and found out they are not a pyramid, because they have two legs??? So gather round all you super star diamond princesses and princes and let’s get to chatting about this week’s multi level marketing company.
Income Disclosure: images.beachbody.com/coach-office/downloads/statement_of_independent_coach_earnings.pdf
Part Two: images.beachbody.com/coach-office/downloads/income_statement_disclaimer.pdf
Ranking: faq.beachbody.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/1512/~/rank%3A-start-here
Inside Shakeology: podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/episode-6-why-shakeology-is-worth-the-price/id1037181669?i=1000362623226
Income Disclosure: images.beachbody.com/coach-office/downloads/statement_of_independent_coach_earnings.pdf
Part Two: images.beachbody.com/coach-office/downloads/income_statement_disclaimer.pdf
Ranking: faq.beachbody.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/1512/~/rank%3A-start-here
Inside Shakeology: podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/episode-6-why-shakeology-is-worth-the-price/id1037181669?i=1000362623226
Apr 03, 202001:10:36
Interview: Jessica, Beachbody
Emma and Francine have their first interview! These boss babes are making big moves! Jessica from the I Totally Paused podcast joins us to talk about her time with Beachbody. Don’t forget to rate and review if you’re loving the show.
Mar 30, 202001:09:34
Momma, Please Don’t Join An MLM
This episode, Francine and Emma have a lot to catch up on. It’s been an eventful week and we get into some serious topics about current events and how multi-level marketing companies are laying it on thick in the midst of a global crisis. The jumping off point for our main conversation is a predatory Instagram post from a Beachbody Hun. The heavy talk touches on mom guilt, copywriting, abuse (see trigger warning in time stamps,) and postpartum depression. We start and end the episode on some lighter notes that include cheesecake and Beanie Babies.
Time Stamps:
Intro/news/chit chat ends at 14:50
Trigger warning: abuse, domestic abuse at 42:50 to 44:35
Instagram reaction/MLM talk ends at 1:11:30
The end is another story I forgot to tell about my week, and probably more information than you want to know about beanie babies and spreadsheets. We hope you want to listen all the way through, but if you aren’t interested in these titillating subjects, we understand and will still be your friends.
Resources for moms:
www.samhsa.gov/find-help/national-helpline
www.womenshealth.gov/mental-health/mental-health-conditions/postpartum-depression
parentingfromtheheartblog.com/lonely-mom/
Therapy and counseling resources:
www.betterhelp.com/advice/counseling/is-free-counseling-right-for-you-where-to-get-therapy-online/
www.noom.com/#/
www.youper.ai
Time Stamps:
Intro/news/chit chat ends at 14:50
Trigger warning: abuse, domestic abuse at 42:50 to 44:35
Instagram reaction/MLM talk ends at 1:11:30
The end is another story I forgot to tell about my week, and probably more information than you want to know about beanie babies and spreadsheets. We hope you want to listen all the way through, but if you aren’t interested in these titillating subjects, we understand and will still be your friends.
Resources for moms:
www.samhsa.gov/find-help/national-helpline
www.womenshealth.gov/mental-health/mental-health-conditions/postpartum-depression
parentingfromtheheartblog.com/lonely-mom/
Therapy and counseling resources:
www.betterhelp.com/advice/counseling/is-free-counseling-right-for-you-where-to-get-therapy-online/
www.noom.com/#/
www.youper.ai
Mar 28, 202001:21:51
Deep Dive: Arbonne, Part 1
Oh, Arbonne. This business model is whack and the expensive products are not anything special. Let’s see what Emma & Francine have to say about making women millionaires and find out if fizzy water will change your life. Anchor, if you’re reading this, please fix the audio issues because those are whack too. (Audio quality is near and dear to our hearts so we hope to be able to kick that up a notch in the future.)
Links
Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arbonne_International
Income Disclosure 2018: https://embed.widencdn.net/pdf/view/arbonne/bnavepu80y/9035R18_US_ICCS_Fly_final-1.pdf?u=seno6f
Success Plan: https://embed.widencdn.net/pdf/plus/arbonne/2t6eleklxc/9557R11_US_SuccessPlan_Man_final.pdf
Mar 23, 202001:11:47
Den of Anxiety: Emma’s Lularoe Story
Oh shit, grab your favorite saucer because there’s enough tea to go around for everyone. This week we scratch the surface of Emma’s experience with the multi level marketing company Lularoe. From the massive network of Facebook groups, to gambling problems, and everything in between - Francine isn’t afraid to ask the questions that have been burning in her brain as Emma burned her life to the ground. Don’t forget if you want to support the show and our ability to bring you more content, there is a link below (but we will still be your friends even if you don’t/can’t/won’t/whatever we don’t care, we love you.)
Mar 19, 202001:53:17
Deep Dive: Mary Kay, Part 1
Francine and Emma catch up about COVID 19 and the MLM world. Then Francine plots her ultimate revenge against nemesis Mary Kay in this deep dive episode featuring pink Caddys and red jackets. Grab your popcorn or cozy up with your glass of scotch and stay until the end where we spill our personal experiences with MK. Pink Truth with link to Advance brochure: www.pinktruth.com/mary-kay-facts/the-mary-kay-pyramid/
Natalia Taylor YT video about MK:
youtu.be/bVfzDmMTydg
Natalia Taylor YT video about MK:
youtu.be/bVfzDmMTydg
Mar 14, 202001:30:23
Make Social Media Great Again
Emma & Francine talk about some podcast announcements, recent MLM news and then get into the nitty gritty behind shilling shit on social media.
MLM Master List-
https://mlmtruth.org/master-list/
Mary Kay Announcement:
https://www.marykay.com.au
Jonathan Mann:
https://www.jonathanmann.net
Mar 09, 202053:22
Just drink it, Francine!
Let’s welcome our new cohost, Francine Brown! Emma and Francine have a friendship that survived an MLM. Things get messy, and they’re here to tell you all about it. This episode covers the arc that MLMs played in their friendship and what their goals are for the podcast. Thanks for listening to the show, if you enjoy it, tell a friend & leave us 5 stars so we can get the AntiMLM message out there.
Mar 05, 202053:05
Deep Dive: Rodan + Fields, Part 1
Deep Dive episodes take a look into the history and practices of popular MLM companies. This week we take a look at the history & financial disclosures from skincare giant Rodan + Fields.
Revenue: bit.ly/RFrevenue
Terra Cycle: bit.ly/2TlUpFS
Income Disclosure: bit.ly/2T13lBB
Proactiv Wikipedia: bit.ly/32skZ4s
Celebrity Net Worth: bit.ly/37YUhBH
Feb 27, 202037:26
Drunk on the Kool Aid
In this episode, Emma gives a brief history of her time as a hun and then goes over what to expect from the show & how you can help. Don’t forget to stay until the end for a horrific review from a former Rodan + Fields employee. Glassdoor Reviews: https://www.glassdoor.com/Reviews/Rodan-Fields-Reviews-E327628_P3.htm
Feb 18, 202014:25