Anxiety Warriors Podcast

"Accept-then act. Whatever the present moment contains, accept it as if you had chosen it. Always work with it, not against it." -Eckhart Tolle

On today's episode Abby and Margot welcome their next guest, Gabrielle Jacobson. Gabrielle is a former Oxford physics student who has transformed into a dedicated data scientist and coach. She channels her years of anxiety and learning about herself into mentoring others, volunteering to help people with their University applications and she's especially passionate about helping women who've experienced similar pressures on their journey. She shares that she recalls anxiety starting around age 10 and notes that she specifically felt it as a student when each year the coursework became more challenging. She talks about the ripple effect that academic anxiety seeped out into other areas of her life as well. Gabrielle shares that when she entered University, she began to work towards creating healthier habits surrounding her anxiety, such as therapy, tracking feelings, educating herself on the cyclical nature of her anxiety, finding community and more. Gabrielle's superpower is finding acceptance in where she's at, and meeting her needs with a sense of flow and empowerment.

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"Oh now I get it." -Said no one ever after being mansplained to.

On today's episode, Abby and Margot talk about the experience of being mansplained to. It had started with a viral video that they shared of Pro golfer, Georgia Ball being mansplained at while she was filming a video for her IG at the driving range. It unsurprisingly enraged the Warriors, so they knew it was time to chat about this ridiculous phenomenon. That is when a man talks at a woman for any amount of time, usually unsolicited, and often about a subject that she knows a good amount about. Note: Even if she doesn't, that doesn't open doors for 'education' or offering up opinions. They share stories of being mansplained to, and reflect on why they have hope that the situation can continue to improve and some useful steps to take to lessen the mansplaining. 
Side note: No men were hurt in the recording of this podcast. If you're hurt after listening, feel free to not tell us about it. 

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"Life is a balance of holding on and letting go." -Rumi

On today's episode Abby and Margot welcome their next guest, Giselle Shardlow. Giselle is a former classroom educator and trained yoga professional. She's the founder of Kids Yoga Stories, a company dedicated to creating valuable resources to bring yoga to kids everywhere and much more. Her story is largely about how she's framed her anxiety into two parts. The first from before she became a Mom and the second from after. Growing up she was labeled as a worry wort or "overly sensitive", but didn't know she'd been anxious until years later. Her story journey's from her early adult years when she was a world traveler and teacher in Guatemala, to what it was like many years later in young motherhood coping with her daughters struggles with anxiety and other needs and how these experiences (and how she related to them) felt different in mind and body. Giselle offers the Warriors a myriad of useful tools and modalities for approaching care, compassion and support for her anxiety. With countless moments of warmth and wisdom, she reminds listeners about the beauty of humanity and how with a bit more effort and surrender... we can all overcome life's obstacles with more ease.

Here are some books mentioned in our chat:

My Grandmother Hands, by Resmaa Menakem
Stolen Focus, by Johann Hari
The Women, by Kristin Hannah
Breath, by James Nestor
The Body Keeps the Score, by Bessel van der Kolk
The Yoga Sutras of Patanjali, translated by Alistair Shearer

"If it's out of your hands, it deserves freedom from your mind too." -Ivan Nuru

Easier said than done! On today's episode Abby and Margot talk about what it's like to have second hand anxiety for other people. It's not enough to be anxious about their own lives or circumstances, they need to complicate it even more! :-) The Warriors share experiences with feeling anxiety for others, how it relates to being an empath, how it manifests physically and more.

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"Details matter. They create depth, and depth creates authenticity." -Neil Blumenthal 
On today's episode Abby and Margot welcome their next guest, Michelle El Khoury. Dr. Michelle El Khoury is is founder of Yogamazia, a yoga studio specifically focused on maternal
and children’s wellness education based in the suburbs of Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. She
brings over twenty years of healthcare experience, is a published author and speaker, in addition  to being a credentialed perinatal and yoga professional. Michelle's story is filled with the layers and depth that form from living life to its fullest in every way. Her anxiety journey is no different. She shares openly about the many factors that have been part of her experience, such as struggling to manage her 1st pregnancy, juggling  20+ years of climbing the corporate ladder and more. She'd been through many epiphanies along the way, but what cultivated the most change was changing careers during the pandemic. Michelle knew deep down she was meant for something different from the world she (and her girls) had known, so she founded Yogamazia to help others find their support systems and improve their lives. She offers so many tools and tips for coping with anxiety and stress and reminds the Warriors that the best gift we have is to live authentically.

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"Anxiety isn't you. It 's something moving through you. It can go out the same door it came in." -James Clear 

On today's episode Abby and Margot talk about when anxiety caused them to behave "badly." They share stories past and present about situations where their anxious experiences led them to act or react in less than perfect ways. The Warriors reflect on what changed as they realized that they messed up. They offer the steps taken to understand themselves better. and in some cases repair with those on the receiving end of their "bad" behavior. Margot and Abby talk about how we all as a collective could do with a bit more self compassion and knowledge that often behavior is just a way of working out a feeling, and that "when we know better we do better."

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"Talk to yourself like you would someone you love."-Brene Brown

On today's episode Abby and Margot welcome their next guest, Rachel Glowacki. Rachel is a mindful movement educator, writer, and thought leader in the kids yoga field specializing in movement for all ages and abilities as well as the author of the Kids Yogaverse storybook apps and Co-Owner of Move With Me Books. Rachel shares how growing up she always thought anxiety was normal, and didn't realize it's impact on her life until her first true panic attack in her late 20's as a Mom to two small kids. She talks about how this moment changed her relationship to anxiety and shaped her understanding of her former and current self. Rachel vulnerably speaks about her experience with eating disorders, being in recovery, and all the strategies she uses to navigate her anxiety. Such as therapy, yoga, meditation and medication, writing and much more. Rachel offers the Warriors so many valuable reframes and tips to try such as cultivating a positive self talk practice, 'insourcing' (as opposed to 'outsourcing'), and showing up for life with more passion and less worry for the 'small stuff.' 

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"In many cases your imagination is much more effective than what can be shown. It primes you to know something is about to happen--the anticipation and anxiety is worse than what ends up happening."- Oren Peli 

The quote says it all! On today's episode Abby and Margot talk about the anxiety that comes with anticipation and how it can often be much more stressful and outshine the thing itself! They share about times in their life when their minds told them stories (based on prior experiences or without) and how they navigated the narratives and supported themselves through it.

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On today's episode Abby and Margot celebrate their 150th episode of Anxiety Warriors Podcast! They share some of their favorite things about the podcasting journey so far, high and low lights, memorable moments, and more. The Warriors reflect on how their own experience with anxiety and mental health has been impacted for the better by having these conversations with each other along with their guests. Listen until the end to hear a special and important announcement about the pod going forward.

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"To keep the body in good health is a duty. Otherwise we shall not be able to keep our minds strong and clear." -Buddha 

On today's episode Abby and Margot share the next installment of the Mundane Anxieties Series. Today's topic: Eating healthy. This can be a weighty topic for some, so if conversation around food, or the body is triggering, perhaps skip this one. The Warriors talk about the complicated and nuanced nature of what's considered "healthy." They touch on the ways in which diet culture, childhood experiences, marketing around foods, and the ever changing information available regarding what's healthy or not impacts their anxiety and mental health.

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"It's not enough to be busy. The question is: What are we busy about?" -Henry David Thoreau

On today's episode Abby and Margot discuss what they hope is a very relatable topic for all the Warriors: Time management (and the struggle bus that it rides on at times). They share the vast array of things that suck their time away, how they navigate their endless to-do's and what's working (or not working) in their day to day. Finally they offer some tangible tips and reframes that help to ease the anxiety a bit, and even create space for joy. 

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"Independence, to me, doesn't mean you'll stop working. It means you only do the work that you like with people you like at the times you want for as long as you want." -Morgan Housel 

On today's episode Abby and Margot talk about what it's like being part of the gig economy aka independent contractors. They discuss the differences between being an IC and being a small business, and share stories about learning some things the hard way when choosing to work for different companies and how not all IC work is equal. They share how they've learned from their mistakes, and how they've navigated the anxiety that comes with instability, unpredictability, people pleasing and managing others expectations. They acknowledge that it's a privilege to be able to pick and choose (even after hard lessons learned), where they work and with whom while knowing that not everyone has a choice. Finally, they remind the Warriors to check on their friends that work in the gig economy and offer a listening ear/emotional support when they can--as it's not always easy. Then again, what is? :)

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"Professional is not a label you give yourself. It's a description you hope others will apply to you." -David Maister 

On today's episode Abby and Margot share part 12 of the Mundane Anxieties series. Today's topic: Sounding "professional." The Warriors share their thoughts around what it means to show up in a professional manner via email/written communication vs. in person. They discuss the why and how to show up in authenticity no matter how you're communicating, while honoring the overthinking that comes with the territory. You'll hear the coping strategies that support them, and the ways they practice letting go of expectations and leaning into being in the moment with folks.

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"How lucky I am to make saying goodbye so hard." -Winnie the Pooh

On today's episode Abby and Margot talk about saying goodbyes. They share stories about how they navigate feelings of anxious attachment, separation anxiety, and even grieving the loss of groups of people having a shared (often vulnerable) experience. The Warriors talk about feelings of isolation, fear of change/the unknown, and anxiety over losing a part of yourself. They offer a chance for reflection and provide ideas for coping with parting with others in productive and compassionate ways. 
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On today's episode Abby and Margot wrap up season 3 with a look back at all of their amazing guests from 2023. The Warriors recap the year and re-listen to highlights from one of the questions every guest gets..."What advice would you give your younger self?" Hear once more from the remarkable and unique voices that made up this all star lineup. 

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On today's episode Abby and Margot wrap up season 3 with a look back at all of their amazing guests from 2023. The Warriors recap the year and re-listen to highlights from one of the questions every guest gets..."What does being an Anxiety Warrior mean to you?" Hear once more from the remarkable and unique voices that made up this all star lineup. 

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"Boundaries are statements of what we will or will not tolerate. The goal of a boundary isn't to change another's behavior, but to create safety and integrity for ourselves."

On today's episode Abby and Margot talk about boundaries and people pleasing specifically as it relates to workplace style relationships as well as strangers on social media/the internet.

Back in season 1, The Warriors covered boundary setting and people pleasing as well as sales/social media anxiety. In this conversation, they revisit these topics, talk about how they connect and how their healing around them has evolved, shifted, and even lapsed over the last few months. They share their reflections, including what's made them proud in terms of their progress, and what they still need to work on.

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"I realized that I don't have to be perfect. All I have to do is show up and enjoy the messy, imperfect and beautiful journey of my life." -Kerry Washington

On today's episode Abby and Margot welcome their next guest, Becky Fontaine. Becky is a Mother and musician, a self professed trauma alchemist, and so much more! She shares that anxiety is the longest relationship of her life, and that it exists for her in nearly every memory. A survivor of parental loss at age 13, she recalls being hailed as a grief prodigy during group therapy. Why? You might wonder... because she was tasked with helping kids younger than she to support them during their grief. This, as you can imagine, didn't actually help HER to cope and process her own trauma. Fast forward to late adolescents, Becky started her own healing journey, and was given labels and tools for her experience. She shares so many stories and insights into how she both experiences and navigates anxiety, and talks openly about how it's a constant work in progress. She reminds all the Warriors that they deserve to take up space, shine out loud and be their most authentic and imperfect self.

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"It's time to switch from my normal anxiety to my festive holiday party anxiety"

The Warriors are back with another round 2 for you! This time, they're revisiting Holiday Anxiety. To hear Part 1, scroll back to Episode 34. The holiday season can be packed with fun, family, food and friends. It can also be packed with overwhelm, dread, drama, grief, and so much more. For part 2 of holiday anxiety, Abby and Margot expand on how they navigate this tricky time of year. They share ways that they've learned to self soothe, set boundaries, and even empower themselves to break free of norms and traditions and do only what feels right for them.

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“It's the most wonderful time of the year!" ....or is it? Tis the season of anxiety, Warriors! In today's episode, Abby and Margot talk about all things holidays! This time of year can be a lot of fun, but at the same time be quite stressful. They discuss how the holiday season impacts them and the unique kinds of anxieties this time of year can bring up. Through storytelling of both the positive and negative aspects of holidays, the Warriors explore how holiday time anxiety differs from other types, as well as ways to navigate this tricky time including mindfulness practices, boundary setting, and letting go of expectations.

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"There's so many things that life is, and no matter how many breakthroughs, trials will exist--and we're going to get through it. Just be strong." -Mary J. Blige

On today's episode Abby and Margot welcome their next guest, Romina Keper. Romina is a speech therapist for children, and owner of CharTEACHerie: A custom charcuterie board company--but for teacher supplies, decorative items and tasty treats! Romina's anxiety journey began in Kindergarten where she recalls feeling physically sick and not wanting to go to school and followed her into adulthood manifesting itself in many ways. Such as: fearing unknowns, negative self talk, sleep struggles, restlessness and more. Only in the last few years has she had a label for her experience and worked to navigate it. Speaking plainly about her feelings to herself and others, therapy, medication, creating gratitude lists and more are among the several helpful strategies that she uses. Romina reminds the Warriors that we can always change our narrative, that we can remove shame from our shared experiences, feel less alone through honesty, and that being a Warrior means that we're a bada$$!

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"The only competition you should have is with yourself."

On today's episode Abby and Margot talk about competition among friends. In previous episodes, where the focus had been work, the Warriors shared about what it's like to compete for your job, promotions, titles, etc. But, what happens when the competition is a bit closer to home? Navigating friendship can be challenging enough but when we feel like we're competing for each other's time, attention, affection, etc. that can make it that much harder. They share about how they experienced anxiety around feeling the discomfort of competition in adolescents vs. how they experience it in adulthood. They offer listeners an opportunity to reflect on their relationship to competition among friendships and share tips about best practices for communication.

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"She understood that the hardest times in life to go through were when you were transitioning from one version of yourself to another."- Sarah Addison Allen

On today's episode Abby and Margot welcome their next guest, Larissa Noto. Larissa is certified yoga and mindfulness educator specializing in a variety of diverse populations, including trauma informed adult and children's yoga, folks of all ages and stages with unique abilities, and more.  She's also a trainer, author, speaker and content contributor with Childlight Education Company (NH), Mindful Child Initiative (PA), Prema Yoga Institute (NY), and Outside +/Yoga Journal. She shares that much of her anxiety journey began in childhood, and she describes herself as a recovering perfectionist. She noticed early in life that she struggled to see mistakes as the beautiful and important teachers that she now knows them to be. She recalls the ways she learned to cope before she even knew that she had anxiety. Larissa offers the Warriors so many valuable insights into her experience from the physical manifestations of her anxiety, to how she uses a range of useful modalities to navigate stress/anxiety nowadays. Larissa reminds us all the value of slowing down, embracing flow and change, and knowing when it's time to stop and when it's time to persevere.

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"Endurance is not just the ability to bear a hard thing, but to turn it into glory."- William Barclay

On today's episode Abby and Margot welcome their next guest, Lauren Lebowitz Stanton. Lauren is owner and founder of CeLEBrations by Stanton, a business dedicated to celebrating all of life's big and little moments through custom products in all mediums! Lauren shares that she had never labeled her experience as anxiety until well into adulthood. After experiencing a high risk pregnancy, postpartum anxiety, and due to her sensitivity to hormonal changes as an Endo Warrior--she realized she HAD actually been an Anxiety Warrior her whole life! Lauren's anxiety can often fuel her productivity and creativity, but when she struggles she knows that she'll endure. Her story highlights a highly flexible mindset with notes of deep self awareness, understanding that things will always change, and remembering that she isn't without agency and advocacy.  She offers so many supportive tools and reframes for living purposefully while going with the flow.

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"The ego loves labels, not only for the sake of understanding but also to acquire more kindling for the fire of attachment. Labels function as brakes that help us counteract the natural flow of change, and sometimes they even serve as a form of resistance to doing healing work." -Yung Pueblo

On today's episode Abby and Margot talk about the way labeling ourselves/others or working within our labels can sometimes be beneficial and other times a hindrance. A label in and of itself can either limit you or set you free. The Warriors share their experiences with labels and how they choose to navigate operating with a sense of self awareness while leaving space for flow and growth.

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"The courageous conversation is the one you don't want to have." -David Whyte

"Difficult people force you to grow and learn new ways of dealing with challenges."- Unknown

On today's episode Abby and Margot dive deep into what it looks and feels like to navigate difficult people and/or tough conversations. The Warriors share stories/experiences they've had to cope with recently that challenged them in emotionally, mentally and physically exhausting ways, and discuss coping strategies they found to be supportive throughout the process.

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"You were right about one thing, Master. The negotiations were short." -Obi Wan Kenobi

On today's episode Abby and Margot welcome their next guest, Jesse Bartel. Jesse is the Store Manager of BookHampton in East Hampton, NY. In his free time, he likes to take photos of street lights at night and write about nerdy things. He has an MFA from Sarah Lawrence and spends much of his time indoors. Jesse shares that his journey with anxiety began with panic attacks in his teen years, and followed him into adulthood. It manifested in a variety of ways such as: imagining social situations before they happened, being overwhelmed in visually stimulating or loud spaces, being stuck in negative thought patterns and more. In his 20's he would often "quiet the brain" by self medicating.  After starting down a path of sobriety, tapping into a range of coping skills, and being more self reflective he was able to see anxiety as an opportunity to learn more about himself and be truly authentic. Jesse shares so many powerful and useful tips and anecdotes and reminds the Warriors that we can negotiate with anxiety and be proactive as we go.

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"A new school year means new beginnings, new adventures, new friendships, and new challenges. The slate is clean and anything can happen." -Denise WitmerOn today's episode Abby and Margot talk about back to school anxiety! You don't need to be a student anymore to experience back to school anxiety. Parents, teachers, and anyone that works in schools or that uses the school calendar to navigate their work can have it too. The Warriors discuss their memories from childhood, how they differ from their time in the classroom as educators and what it feels like now as independent contractors in the school setting. Finally, they talk through some helpful active practices to support this transition for all ages and more.

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"Believe in your own potential. Advocate for your whole being--body, mind, and spirit." -Akrioq Brost

On today's episode Abby and Margot welcome their next guest, Cara Nissen. Cara is a certified life coach, chronic illness and Lupus Warrior as well as a part time professor in the Psychology dept. of Mount St. Mary's University, LA. She's the vice president of Grl Pwr LA, a non profit geared helping women and girls discover community while fostering personal and professional development. Cara shares her journey with anxiety and how it manifests as overthinking and intrusive thoughts which lead to a lot of avoidance of trying new or scary things. She practices pushing her own boundaries and advocating for herself more and more, especially since being diagnosed with Lupus just a few years ago. She educates the Warriors about the condition and its effects, and shares the many self soothing and coping strategies that support not just her Lupus and anxiety --but her overall wellbeing. Cara reminds listeners that life is too short to not show up for the things we want, and that anxiety can be embraced and even help with focus/motivation.

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"Beauty begins the moment you decide to be yourself."-Coco Chanel 

On today's episode Abby and Margot continue to explore the lighter side of anxiety with the next installment of the Mundane Anxieties series; Clothing! The Warriors share their relationship to clothing and how it's changed (or stayed the same) over the years. They chat about how clothes impact their mental health, can either amp up or tamp down their anxiety and more. Finally, they invite listeners to reflect on how anxiety around clothes shows up in their experience. 

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For today's replay, the Warriors revisit their conversation with the incredible Jesse Israel, Ep. 42 "A Beautiful Mess with Jesse Israel" from season 2 of the pod. Jesse is the founder of the mass global meditation movement, The Big Quiet. In addition to being a meditation leader, Jesse is a keynote speaker and leadership coach. He's been named "The meditation expert" by the New York Times, toured arenas with Oprah Winfrey and co-hosted international broadcasts with Deepak Chopra. An Audible Originals best-selling creator and a Forbes Next 1000 recipient, Jesse has collaborated on meditation projects with Grammy winning rappers, coached the world’s most influential entrepreneurs and keynoted at Fortune 500s around the globe. 
He's AMAZING! And guess what? He's an Anxiety Warrior like us! 

For today's replay we revisit ep. 33 with Lauren Chaitoff, founder of Yogi Beans. Lauren is a long time friend of the Pod, and just this week her debut book "108 Awesome Yoga Poses for Kids" has hit the proverbial shelves! Listen to her story, allow yourself to be inspired and then grab your copy of this fantastic book. 

"Feedback, when well given, should not alienate the receiver of the feedback, but should motivate them." 

On today's episode Abby and Margot talk about what it's like to give and/or receive feedback. They share stories about times they had to sit through "constructive criticism" and times when they had to give it, the difference between criticism and feedback, and the feelings that can arise before, during and after. The Warriors talk about ways they've practiced navigating these situations and offer tips/solutions regarding when/how to either receive (or choose not to receive!) such feedback or criticism.

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"In this moment, I am ok."- Jen Salk

On today's episode Abby and Margot welcome their next guest, Jen Salk. Jen is a Mom, Wife, and Mental Health Advocate from South Florida. She shares about dealing with childhood trauma and having a deep abandonment wound, as well as years spent overthinking and creating narratives in her head relating to interpersonal relationships. She talks about having migraines, and teeth grinding and feeling a lump in her throat from always stuffing down her emotions for fear of abandonment and being a burden. Jen has worked super hard on herself in recent years, making strides in therapy, and filling her Anxiety Warrior toolbox with so many valuable coping skills and strategies. Such as grounding practices, creating a sensory kit, post-it affirmations, learning to trust herself and much more. Jen acknowledges that healing isn't linear and she's a fierce advocate for showing others that it's important to show up for yourself with consistency and love.

"You're in my personal space, so get out of it." -Carol Plum-Ucci

On today's episode Abby and Margot continue to explore the lighter side of anxiety with the next installment in the Mundane Anxieties Series: Personal Space (or lack thereof!) The Warriors share relatable stories about the stress that comes with having others in their personal space, and how they navigate close talking, setting boundaries, and how to handle such uncomfortable situations.

"It takes a monster to kill children. But to watch monsters kill children again and again and do nothing isn't just insanity--it's inhumanity." -Amanda Gorman

The title says it all. On today's episode Abby and Margot talk about their experience with anxiety around school shootings. They share stories from their own childhood's and being high school students when Columbine happened, and how things have changed for the worse TEN FOLD since that time. They talk about their experiences as educators and how they navigated the stress and fear surrounding school safety, changing protocols, and caring for children during active shooter drills. Finally, the Warriors offer listeners the chance to reflect on their own emotions surrounding gun violence in schools and what we can do as teachers, parents, community members, etc to prevent mass shootings in school and care for others and ourselves in the process. 
CW: school shooting, gun violence, severe trauma. 

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"It's a welcomed gift to encourage others to achieve greatness."

On today's episode Abby and Margot welcome their next guest, Zil Eiler. Zil is a life and business coach from San Diego where she lives with her husband and three children. Zil shares that her anxiety hit an all time high when not long into the pandemic, her husband fell ill to Covid. Thankfully, he's since recovered, but she vulnerably tells the Warriors about the level of fear, overthinking and despair she experienced at that time. She talks about the ways in which it's made her stronger, and that by learning to welcome her anxiety (like any other feeling), stay with it, and even talk to it she's able to move through with more clarity. Zil provides so many useful reframes and strategies for coping with anxiety, and hopes to continue to inspire others to listen to themselves, and better understand the wisdom that anxiety has to offer.

"I am so tired, even my tiredness is tired." 

Big surprise, Warriors! It's round 3 of Sleep Anxiety. Why? Because we're still so f**king tired! (Hands up if you can relate!) By "WE", the Warriors mean that the world as a collective is exhausting and they are still.so.tired. This short venting sesh is a perfect kick off what is sure to be a looooonnnngggg and tiring weekend. But, HEY! At least it's the kick off to summer! Happy Memorial Day Weekend!

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"Stop being considerate in situations where you aren't considered." 

On today's episode Abby and Margot talk about the anxiety that comes with feeling like we're being a burden or inconveniencing others. But, they wonder...are they inconvenient? Or do they just have needs and boundaries like all humans do? The Warriors share stories about times when they worried about inconveniencing others and how they navigated the discomfort that presents itself in said situations.

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"It's a form of human love to accept our complicated, messy humanity and not run away from it."-Martha Nussbaum

On today's episode Abby and Margot welcome their next guest; Morgan Winder. Morgan is a mental health therapist at a private practice in Gilbert and Phoenix Arizona. Her anxiety story began in childhood, and showed up in all aspects of her life. From her school career, her relationships with herself and others, and beyond. Morgan shares about how she still struggles at times and acknowledges that even as a therapist, her healing journey isn't linear or easy. Learning about anxious attachment was a game changer, along with deep inner child work, self exploration, and befriending her anxiety while also challenging her anxious thoughts. Morgan's ability to navigate her own fear responses (fight, flight, freeze, faint, fawn) in an anxious moment allows her to move through her experience with more strength, curiosity and compassion.

"Best wishes, Warm regards."

On today's episode Abby and Margot continue to explore the lighter side of anxiety with Part 9 of the Mundane Anxiety Series: Greetings and Goodbyes! We've all been faced with the moment when the time comes to say hello to a new person (or group of folks...and perhaps for the first time! EEEK!!), and you fumble on how to greet them. Do they like handshakes? Hugs? Just a wave? Exiting a situation can be just as awkward. Do I say goodbye to everyone at once? Individually? and so on. The Warriors share funny and relatable stories about navigating the anxiety that comes with greetings and goodbyes in a variety of ways. Finally, they are beyond excited to share one of the best wins of the week they've ever had! It's an audio clip of Abby's Mom Fran, and her Aunt Shari where they do their own mini podcast called "Boomer Warriors." It's absolutely hilarious, heartwarming and amazing.

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"You may not control all events that happen to you, but you can decide not to be reduced by them." -Maya Angelou

Get ready for a candid conversation about when the Warriors didn't know that they needed to be anxious! There are times when an anxious person might know that anxiety is coming--- or even likely! Then, there are times when BAM! Anxiety hits you square in the face. Abby and Margot share how spontaneity and out of nowhere situations can often lead to anxiety and talk about their experiences with navigating last minute, sometimes bizarre (and potentially gross!) obstacles!

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