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Art from the Outside

By Amitha Raman and Will Palley

Two art nerds Amitha Raman and Will Palley host Art from the Outside, a podcast for anyone who wants an outside in look at the art world. They feature exclusive interviews with leading artists, curators, collectors, and gallerists to help unravel the arts. Follow the official Instagram @Artfromtheoutsidepodcast for images of artworks discussed in each episode and to peek behind the scenes!
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Artist Guadalupe Maravilla

Art from the OutsideNov 22, 2022

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Artist Alexandre da Cunha

Artist Alexandre da Cunha

This episode we are thrilled to be talking with the Brazilian born artist Alexandre da Cunha. 


Based between London and Sao Paulo, Ale has referred to his practice as ‘pointing’ as opposed to ‘making’. By ‘pointing’ at existing objects in plain sight, he highlights new and unexpected meanings within the objects he chooses. 


Grounded in material aesthetics, Ale creates monumentally scaled sculptures and playfully constructed wall-mounted work using metamorphosed everyday and found objects. Given their renewed possibility and playing with the visual language of art historical movements such as Arte Povera and Tropicália, Ale’s sculptures inspire lush potential, elevating our everyday encounters with ordinary materials to sociocultural events.

 

Ale’s work has been widely exhibited around the world. He’s had solo exhibitions at the Brighton CCA, the Royal Society of Sculptors in London, the Museum of Contemporary Art Chicago and the Centro Cultural São Paulo, Brazil - among many others. 


Ale’s work is included in major private and institutional collections including the ICA Boston, the Museum of Contemporary Art Chicago, the Tate, and the Museu de Arte de São Paulo, Brazil, just to name a few.


Ale is represented by Thomas Dane Gallery, Galerie Luisa Strina, and James Cohan Gallery.

Jun 01, 202443:27
Artist Igshaan Adams

Artist Igshaan Adams

This episode, we are hugely excited to be joined by the artist Igshaan Adams.

Born in Bonteheuwel, a suburb in Cape Town, South Africa in 1982, Igshaan draws upon his background to contest racial, sexual and religious boundaries. This intersectional topography remains visible throughout his practice. Speaking about his work, Igshaan has said: "I’m interested in the personal stories recorded on the surface. What is recorded is not necessarily always a factual account but can be what is imagined – a combination of myth-making and meaning-making."

Igshaan has had solo exhibitions around the world, including at The Art Institute of Chicago, the Hayward Gallery in London, and the Iziko South African National Gallery in Cape Town, just to name a few. Plus, this June, we can look forward to a new solo exhibition at the Hepworth Wakefield (which, as someone from the UK, Will is especially excited about).

Igshaan has also participated in numerous international group shows, including the Islamic Arts Biennale (2023) in Jeddah, the Venice Biennale, and – where Will had the pleasure of getting to meet Igshaan in person, the São Paulo Bienal. He is also included in the show Unravel: The Power and Politics of Textiles in Art at the Barbican Gallery in London. It will run from the 13th of February to the 26th of May 2024.

Igshaan is represented by blank projects, Thomas Dane Gallery, and Casey Kaplan.

https://blankprojects.com/Igshaan-Adams

https://www.thomasdanegallery.com/artists/363-igshaan-adams/profile/

https://caseykaplangallery.com/artists/igshaan-adams/

Mar 04, 202456:59
Artist Shahzia Sikander

Artist Shahzia Sikander

This episode we are thrilled to be joined by the trailblazing artist Shahzia Sikander.

Originally from Lahore, Pakistan; Sikander works across a variety of media including: paintings, video, and most recently, sculpture.

She is best known for subverting Central and South-Asian manuscript painting traditions and launching the form known today as neo-miniature.

Sikander earned a Bachelor of Fine Arts from the National College of Arts in Lahore; and a Master of Fine Arts from Rhode Island School of Design.

Her work is included in the permanent collections of the Museum of Modern Art in New York; the Hammer Museum in Los Angeles, California; the Hirshhorn Museum in Washington, D.C.; and the Solomon R. Guggenheim Museum, in New York and Abu Dhabi - among many others.

In addition, Sikander is the recipient of numerous honors including the Pollock Prize for Creativity, the Asia Society Award for Significant Contribution to Contemporary Art, and a MacArthur Fellowship - just to name a few

Enjoy!!

Some artists, poets, and writers discussed in this episode:

  • Fahmida Riaz
  • Adrienne Rich
  • Solmaz Sharif
  • Robin Coste Lewis
  • Maya Angelou
  • Audre Lorde
  • Angela Carter
  • Rebecca Solnit
  • bell hooks
  • Bashir Ahmad
  • William Kentridge

You can learn more about Shahzia's residency at Columbia's Zuckerman Institute here.

https://zuckermaninstitute.columbia.edu/alan-kanzer-artist-residence

Shahzia is represented by Sean Kelly gallery.

https://www.skny.com/artists/shahzia-sikander

For images, artworks, and more behind the scenes goodness, follow @artfromtheoutsidepodcast on Instagram!

https://www.instagram.com/artfromtheoutsidepodcast/

Jan 31, 202441:09
Artist P Staff

Artist P Staff

This episode we are thrilled to be joined by the artist P Staff. 

Born in Bognor Regis in the UK and now living and working between Los Angeles and London, P’s work draws from a wide-ranging assortment of inspirations, materials, and settings to emphasize the processes by which bodies – especially those of people who are queer, trans, or disabled – are controlled by society. 

P works across multiple media, including installation, film, and poetry. In their 2019 installation On Venus at the Serpentine Gallery in London, P used mirrored floors, yellow lights, and warped footage to explore the exchange between bodies, ecosystems, and institutions from a queer and trans perspective. P went on to present a version of this work at the Venice Biennale last year.

And in their exhibition this summer at the Kunsthalle Basel titled In Ecstasy (or alternatively In Ekstase), P used materials including electric nets, architectural interventions, and holograms to consider how bodies are disciplined in a society defined by capitalism and its brutality. 

Among a host of venues worldwide, P has had solo exhibitions at institutions including the Irish Museum of Modern Art, Dublin, The Museum of Contemporary Art, Los Angeles, and the Chisenhale Gallery, London (which is actually run by Zoe Whitley, a guest from Season 1 of Art from the Outside).


Some artists and thinkers discussed in this episode:

  • Yvonne Rainer
  • Eve Kosofsky Sedgwick
  • Nina Hagen
  • Candice Lin
  • Johanna Burton
  • Justin Vivian Bond
  • Jackson Pollock
  • Nikita Gale
  • Tishan Hsu
  • Tracey Emin
  • Rachel Cusk
  • Tiona Nekkia McClodden
  • Ashley James, Ph.D

P is represented by Commonwealth and Council in the United States and Galerie Sultana in Europe.

https://commonwealthandcouncil.com/us/patrick-staff/biography

https://galeriesultana.com/artists/p-staff

For images, artworks, and more behind the scenes goodness, follow @artfromtheoutsidepodcast on Instagram. Enjoy!

https://www.instagram.com/artfromtheoutsidepodcast/

Jan 02, 202442:04
Artist Tiona Nekkia McClodden

Artist Tiona Nekkia McClodden

This episode we are hugely excited to be joined by the artist Tiona Nekkia McClodden!

Tiona is a visual artist, filmmaker, and curator whose work explores and critiques issues at the intersections of race, gender, sexuality, and social commentary. 

Born in Blytheville, Arkansas and raised in Greenville, South Carolina, Tiona weaves narratives through archives, memories and objects, integral to her past and present, that shape her broader practice. 

In 2022, Tiona’s exhibitions at The Shed and 52 Walker alongside her year-long installation at MoMA in New York, garnered significant acclaim, prompting The New York Times to identify Teeona as “one of the most singular artists of our aesthetically rich, free-range time.”

Her work have been shown at Kunsthalle Basel, the Institute of Contemporary Art-Philadelphia, the Philadelphia Museum of Art; the Museum of Modern Art (New York); the Whitney Museum of American Art (New York) ; the New Museum (New York); Haus der Kulturen der Welt (HKW) – Berlin, among many others.

And, just in September, Tiona opened up the installation Tiona Nekkia McClodden: Play Me Home at the Baltimore Museum.

Some artists and institutions discussed in this episode:

  • Chryssa
  • Jacob Lawrence
  • Brad Johnson (American, 1952–2011)
  • Barbara Hammer
  • Steve McQueen
  • Palais de Tokyo, Paris
  • Walker Art Center, Minneapolis
  • Conceptual Fade, Philadelphia
  • Whitney Museum, New York
  • Museum of Modern Art, New York
  • 52 Walker, New York

Tiona is represented globally by White Cube gallery.

https://www.whitecube.com/artists/tiona-nekkia-mcclodden

For images, artworks, and more behind the scenes goodness, follow @artfromtheoutsidepodcast on Instagram. Enjoy!

https://www.instagram.com/artfromtheoutsidepodcast/

Nov 01, 202349:34
Artist John Edmonds and Curator Dr. Ashley James - SPECIAL BONUS EPISODE

Artist John Edmonds and Curator Dr. Ashley James - SPECIAL BONUS EPISODE

SPECIAL BONUS EPISODE!!

In this special episode, we host a conversation with artist John Edmonds and Guggenheim curator Dr. Ashley James and to discuss the Guggenheim's new exhibition, Going Dark: The Contemporary Figure at the Edge of Visibility.


The exhibition presents works of art that feature partially obscured or hidden figures, thus positioning them at the “edge of visibility.” In this art context, the common phrase going dark is understood as a tactic whereby artists visually conceal the body to explore a key tension in contemporary society: the desire to be seen and the desire to be hidden from sight.


Among a host of incredible artists, Going Dark also includes two Art from the Outside guests: Ming Smith from Season 3, and Tiona Nekkia McClodden, an upcoming Season 4 guest.


The exhibition is on view at the Guggenheim New York from October 20, 2023 - April 7, 2024. The museum is located at 1071 Fifth Avenue, New York, NY 10128 (Between 88th and 89th Streets).

https://www.guggenheim.org/exhibition/going-dark-the-contemporary-figure-at-the-edge-of-visibility

Oct 26, 202355:10
Artist Zadie Xa

Artist Zadie Xa

Welcome to season 4 of Art from the Outside!


This episode we are thrilled to kick off the season with the artist Zadie Xa. Born in Vancouver in 1983 and now based in London, Zadie has developed an expansive practice that addresses the nature of diasporic identities, global histories, familial legacies and interspecies communication. Working across painting, sculpture, textile production, and performance, she draws upon her Korean heritage as she seeks to elevate narratives that have been erased or repressed by the West and occupying powers.

Her work has been presented at venues around the world, such as the Whitechapel Gallery in London, Remai Modern, Saskatoon, Canada and Tramway, Glasgow, Scotland. In 2019, Zadie was invited to contribute to the performance program at the 58th Venice Biennale, which was also curated by Ralph Rugoff and Aaron Cezar - another Art from the Outside guest.

In July Zadie opened the exhibition Nine Tailed Tall Tales: Trickster, Mongrel, Beast at Space K Seoul, South Korea.

Some artists discussed in this episode:

  • Benito Mayor Vallejo
  • Ice Cube
  • Mykki Blanco
  • Azealia Banks

For images, artworks, and more behind the scenes goodness, follow @artfromtheoutsidepodcast on Instagram. Enjoy!

https://www.instagram.com/artfromtheoutsidepodcast/

Oct 13, 202337:01
Collector Pamela Kramlich
Jul 14, 202342:25
Artist Ming Smith

Artist Ming Smith

This episode we have the privilege of speaking with the legendary photographer and artist Ming Smith.

During a career spanning almost six decades, Smith has documented everyday moments while pushing the limits of photography as a medium. Her distinct style combines a deliberate blurriness with experimental post-production techniques including double exposure, collage, and painting to amplify the works’ dream-like qualities.

Well known for her in-action portraits of notable cultural icons - from James Baldwin to Grace Jones - Smith’s ethereal compositions celebrate the richness of Black culture and the African diaspora. In 1972, Ming joined the Kamoinge Workshop, a collective of Black photographers established in New York City.

Born in Detroit, Michigan and raised in Columbus, Ohio, Smith earned a Bachelor of Science from Howard University before moving to New York in the early 1970’s, where she now lives and works.

Smith’s work has been exhibited in critically-acclaimed exhibitions including MoMA’s ‘Pictures by Women: A History of Modern Photography’; Brooklyn Museum’s ‘We Wanted A Revolution: Black Radical Women, 1965-85.’ and one of my personal favorites - ‘Soul of a Nation’ which opened at Tate Modern, and traveled to Brooklyn Museum, Crystal Bridges and The Broad.

In addition, Smith’s work is included in the permanent collections of the Museum of Modern Art in New York; the Whitney Museum of American Art; and the Smithsonian National Museum of African American History & Culture in Washington, D.C. - just to name a few.

Some artists and individuals discussed in this episode:

  • Diane Arbus
  • Roy DeCarava
  • Romare Bearden
  • David Hammons
  • Linda Goode Bryant
  • Jacob Lawrence
  • Ed Clark
  • Elizabeth Catlett
  • Jayne Cortez
  • Michael Jordan
  • Thelma Golden

For images, artworks, and more behind the scenes goodness, follow @artfromtheoutsidepodcast on Instagram. Enjoy!

Mar 27, 202335:37
Artist Marilyn Minter

Artist Marilyn Minter

This episode we are excited to be joined the pioneering artist and activist Marilyn Minter.

Minter deftly explores American culture’s pathology of glamor through painting, photography, and video works which focus primarily on the female body and its treatment in popular media. 

Well known for her meticulous technical mastery, Minter’s details often highlight natural corporeal qualities that are omitted in mass-media depictions of women, such as body hair and stretch marks.

Born in Shreveport, Louisiana in 1948, Minter earned a Bachelor of Arts from the University of Florida at Gainesville and a Master of Fine Arts from Syracuse University before moving to New York in 1976, where she now lives and works.

Her work is included in the permanent collections of the Museum of Modern Art in New York; the Tate Modern in London; the Museum of Contemporary Art in Los Angeles; and the Perez Art Museum in Miami - just to name a few.

In addition, Minter is the recipient of numerous prestigious awards, including the Louis Comfort Tiffany Grant, Guggenheim Fellowship, and the National Endowment for the Arts, Artist's Fellowship Grant - among many others.

Marilyn is represented by LGDR, New York, Regen Projects, Los Angeles and Baldwin Gallery, Aspen.

Some artists discussed in this episode:

  • Jackson Pollock
  • Lizzo
  • Lana Wachowski and Lilly Wachowski
  • Bruce Nauman
  • Diane Arbus
  • Joan Mitchell
  • David Hammons
  • Helen Frankenthaler
  • Robert Gober
  • John Currin
  • Jenna Gribbon
  • Cindy Sherman
  • Laurie Simmons
  • Kara Walker
  • Jessica Stockholder
  • Larry Clark

For images, artworks, and more behind the scenes goodness, follow @artfromtheoutsidepodcast on Instagram. Enjoy!

Feb 02, 202348:07
Artist Isaac Julien

Artist Isaac Julien

Dec 15, 202251:09
Artist Guadalupe Maravilla

Artist Guadalupe Maravilla

Welcome to Season 3 of Art from the Outside!!!

To kick off Season 3, we speak with the brilliant artist, thinker, and healer Guadalupe Maravilla. Born in 1976 in El Salvador, and now based and working in Brooklyn, New York, Guadalupe received a BFA from the School of Visual Arts, and an MFA from Hunter College at the City University of New York. 

Guadalupe creates intricately layered paintings, sculptures and therapeutic performances that draw from his personal history and Central American ancestry, often resembling mythic creatures or  reliquaries. Guadalupe is work examines issues of migration, healing, generational trauma, while creating new rituals for care, and regeneration. 

Guadalupe has had solo presentations at museums around the world, including at the Museum of Modern Art in New York, the Brooklyn Museum, and Socrates Sculpture Park, just to name a few. He's also the recipient of countless grants, including a Joan Mitchell Fellowship, a Guggenheim Foundation Fellowship, and a Soros Fellowship. He is represented by P·P·O·W in New York and mor charpentier in Paris.

Enjoy!!

Nov 22, 202253:03
Artist Derrick Adams

Artist Derrick Adams

This episode we are so excited to be joined by a brilliant artist who we both greatly admire: Derrick Adams.

Born in Baltimore, Maryland in 1970; Derrick's work spans painting, collage, sculpture, performance, video, and sound installations. His multidisciplinary practice engages the ways in which individuals’ ideals, aspirations, and personae become attached to specific objects, colors, textures, symbols, and ideologies. 

This April, Adams was awarded a $1.25 M. grant from the Andrew W. Mellon Foundation to develop an archive devoted to Black culture in Baltimore. He will also soon be opening a residency for Black creatives in Baltimore called The Last Resort Artist Retreat (TLRAR). You can read more at tlrar.org.

Derrick earned a Bachelor of Fine Arts at Pratt Institute and a Master of Fine Arts at Columbia University. His work resides in the permanent collections of The Metropolitan Museum of Art, The Studio Museum in Harlem, and the Whitney Museum of American Art - just to name a few. In addition, Derrick is a recipient of a Gordon Parks Foundation Fellowship, a Studio Museum Joyce Alexander Wein Artist Prize, and a Louis Comfort Tiffany Award - among others.

Some artists discussed in this episode:

  • Kehinde Wiley
  • Rirkrit Tiravanija
  • Michael Joo
  • Mark Dion
  • Kara Walker
  • Coco Fusco
  • Ed Clark
  • Frank Bowling
  • Howardena Pindell
  • Senga Nengudi
  • Al Loving
  • Mickalene Thomas
  • Shinique Smith
  • Nathaniel Mary Quinn
  • Leslie Hewitt
  • Mika Tajima
  • Chitra Ganesh
  • Patrick Kelly (fashion designer and artist)
  • Bob Thompson 
  • Richard Mayhew
  • Albert Chong

For images, artworks, and more behind the scenes goodness, follow @artfromtheoutsidepodcast on Instagram. Enjoy!

May 10, 202246:34
Artist Kahlil Robert Irving

Artist Kahlil Robert Irving

This episode we are so excited to be chatting with the incredible artist Kahlil Robert Irving. Currently living and working in St. Louis, MO, Kahlil's work encompasses ceramics, sculpture, site-specific wallpaper, and other mediums to mine the archive of visual culture and explore notions of Blackness.

In December 2021, Kahlil opened his first museum solo exhibition at the Museum of Modern Art in New York, titled Projects: Kahlil Robert Irving. His work has been exhibited at the Nerman Museum of Contemporary Art in Kansas; the Craft Contemporary in Los Angeles; and the RISD Museum in Rhode Island - amongst others. He was selected to participate in the 2019 Great Rivers Biennial hosted by Contemporary Art Museum of St. Louis where he had a solo exhibition in May 2020. In 2018 his first institutional solo exhibition “Street Matter decay and forever: golden age” took place at Wesleyan University Center of the Arts in CT and was accompanied by a full color catalog with essays and an interview. 

His work is in the collection the Nerman Museum of Contemporary Art in Kansas; and the Carnegie Museum of Art in Pittsburgh; and the Whitney Museum of Contemporary Art in New York. He received his MFA from the Sam Fox School of Design & Visual Art in Washington University in St. Louis; and he got his BFA from the Kansas City Art Institute in Art History & Ceramics. 

Some artists discussed in this episode:

  • Dayanita Singh
  • Kelley Walker
  • Alex Da Corte
  • Elizabeth Catlett
  • Robert Gober
  • Chuck Close
  • William Pope.L
  • Willie White
  • Royal Robertson
  • Lee Bontecou
  • Glenn Ligon

For images, artworks, and more behind the scenes goodness, follow @artfromtheoutsidepodcast on Instagram. Enjoy!

Apr 21, 202254:34
Artist Chitra Ganesh

Artist Chitra Ganesh

This episode we are beyond thrilled to be joined by incredible artist Chitra Ganesh. Born and raised in Brooklyn and Queens, and currently based in Brooklyn, Chitra’s multi-disciplinary practice encompasses drawing, painting, animations, collages, and many more media to question and disrupt narratives around gender, sexuality, power, and identity.

Anchored in the history of South Asia, her gorgeous and detailed works combine a vast array of influences including South Asian iconography, science fiction and queer theory, with the visual languages of vintage comics, Bollywood posters, and video games to stunning effect.

Chitra’s work has been exhibited internationally, including solo shows at Brooklyn Museum, MoMA PS1, and the Gothenburg Kunsthalle in Sweden - just to name a few.

Her work is represented in the collections of museums around the world, including the Museum of Modern Art, New York, the San Francisco Museum of Modern Art, and the Kiran Nadar Museum in Delhi, India.

Beyond her list of awards and fellowships, what makes this especially exciting is that an exhibition of Chitra’s work will be opening on February 18th at the Mildred Lane Kemper Art Museum at Washington University in St. Louis.

Some artists discussed in this episode:

  • Dykes to Watch Out For by Alison Bechdel
  • Hothead Paisan by Diane DiMassa
  • Louise Bourgeois
  • Howardena Pindell
  • Kara Walker
  • Janine Antoni
  • Zarina
  • Martha Rosler
  • Coco Fusco
  • Mariam Ghani

For images, artworks, and more behind the scenes goodness, follow @artfromtheoutsidepodcast on Instagram. Enjoy!

Feb 15, 202254:33
Artist Barbara Kasten

Artist Barbara Kasten

This episode, we are thrilled to be joined by brilliantly creative artist Barbara Kasten. Based in Chicago, Illinois, Barbara originally trained as a painter and textile artist at the University of Arizona (BFA), the California College of Arts & Crafts (MFA), before turning to photography in the early 1970s. 

Working for over 40 years, she frequently uses mirrors, lights, and props for conceptually-based pieces that explore notions of perception and reality, figuration and abstraction. 

Barbara’s work has been exhibited extensively around the world. In 2015, she was given her first (and long overdue) survey of her work at the Institute of Contemporary Art, Philadelphia. Since then, she has been the subject of solo exhibitions at major institutions including the Aspen Museum of Art and the Kunstmuseum Wolfsburg in Wolfsburg, Germany. Last fall, she was the subject of yet another solo exhibition at the prestigious Sammlung Goetz in Munich, Germany. Her work is also in the permanent collection of many exceptional institutions, including the Art Institute of Chicago, the Museum of Modern Art in New York, the Tate in London, and the Pompidou in Paris.

Barbara is also a widely lauded thinker and the recipient of multiple awards and prizes. She holds the position of Distinguished College Artist at Columbia College Chicago and was notably the John Simon Guggenheim Fellowship.

Some artists discussed in this episode:

  • Magdalena Abakanowicz
  • Ansel Adams
  • Imogen Cunningham
  • Jacques Henri Lartigue
  • László Moholy-Nagy
  • Helen Frankenthaler 
  • Jackson Pollock
  • Florence Henri
  • Lisette Model
  • Diane Arbus
  • Louise Dahl-Wolfe
  • Gisèle Freund
  • Eiko Yamazawa
  • Lorraine O'Grady

For images, artworks, and more behind the scenes goodness, follow @artfromtheoutsidepodcast on Instagram. Enjoy!

http://barbarakasten.net/

https://bortolamigallery.com/artist/barbara-kasten/

Jan 12, 202249:34
Artist Nari Ward
Dec 24, 202156:31
Independent Art Fair Director Elizabeth Dee on Artists and Art Fairs

Independent Art Fair Director Elizabeth Dee on Artists and Art Fairs

This episode, we are thrilled to be joined by the visionary Elizabeth Dee, Co-Founder and CEO of the Independent Art Fair. Conceived and initiated in 2009, the Independent has rapidly become one of the most important and influential art fairs globally and will be hosted at New York’s Battery Maritime Building in just a few weeks, from September 9th to September 12th. You can find more about the fair here.

In addition to her role as Founder of the Independent, Elizabeth is a seasoned art world professional. Elizabeth opened her namesake gallery in New York’s SoHo district in 1997 and proceeded to launch her first public space in 2002 in Chelsea, working with world-class artists including Adrian Piper, Ryan McNamara, and John Giorno.

Last July, Elizabeth also became Director of the recently established John Giorno Foundation, an organization dedicated to grant-making and preserving the legendary artist’s work. In some exciting news, the foundation will actually be facilitating a posthumous exhibition of the artist’s work in London at Almine Rech Gallery this October (so lots to look forward to).

Some artists discussed in this episode:

  • William S. Burroughs
  • Adrian Piper
  • Ryan McNamara
  • John Giorno 
  • Édouard Manet
  • Sherrie Levine 
  • Richard Tuttle
  • Richard Artschwager
  • Robert Gober
  • Jeff Koons
  • Les Rogers
  • Hans Haacke
  • Derek Jarman
  • Sally J. Han
  • Chase Hall
  • Bosco Sodi 
  • Jordan Wolfson
  • Robert Barber 
  • Cory Arcangel
  • Jodi
  • Lynda Benglis
  • Michael Goldberg

For images, artworks, and more behind the scenes goodness, follow @artfromtheoutsidepodcast on Instagram.

Aug 25, 202146:32
Artist Paul Maheke on Politics and Performance Art

Artist Paul Maheke on Politics and Performance Art

This episode, we are delighted to be joined by the multi-disciplinary artist and dear friend Paul Maheke.

Based in London but originally from France, Paul’s practice focused on dance but encompasses a collaborative body of work comprising performance, installation, sound and video. His work considers the potential of the body as an archive in order to examine how memory and identity is formed and constituted.

Recent solo exhibitions include “A fire circle for a public hearing” at the Chisenhale gallery in London (2018) and Vleeshal Middelburg (2019), and “I Lost Track of the Swarm” at the South London Gallery (2016).

Paul has also performed his work at major events across the world, including at the 2019 Venice Biennale (which was curated by another guest, Aaron Cezar), the 2019 Performa Biennial in New York, and the 2018 Baltic Triennial in Estonia (which is where I actually had the true pleasure of getting to meet Paul).

He completed an MA Art Practice from École nationale supérieure d'arts de Cergy (2011) and was an Associate of Open School East's Programme of study. He is represented by Galerie Sultana and Goodman Gallery.

His most recent work, Taboo Durag, is a new solo performance touching on personal trauma and healing and is part of the Glasgow International 2021. It is viewable every Saturday from 19 June – 31 July, midnight – midnight BST as part of the Digital Programming for the Glasgow International. In June it was announced that he had been commissioned by Artangel to produce a sound art and installations at Orford Ness, a barren shingle spit on England's Suffolk Coast, exploring the history of 'the island of secrets.'

Some artists discussed in this episode:

  • Surya Bonaly (ice skater)
  • Michael Jackson
  • Audre Lorde
  • Felix Gonzalez-Torres
  • Édouard Glissant (writer)
  • Paul B. Preciado (writer)
  • Grace Jones
  • Lauren Hill
  • Beyonce
  • Björk
  • Hannah Black
  • Fred Moten
  • Wu Tsang
  • Bruce Nauman

For images, artworks, and more behind the scenes goodness, follow @artfromtheoutsidepodcast on Instagram.

Jul 03, 202158:17
Delfina Foundation's Aaron Cezar on Residencies and the Turner Prize

Delfina Foundation's Aaron Cezar on Residencies and the Turner Prize

May 27, 202152:35
Artist Phyllida Barlow on Her Journey Through the Art World

Artist Phyllida Barlow on Her Journey Through the Art World

This episode, we are extremely lucky to be joined by the pioneering artist, Phyllida Barlow. We talk about her early memories of the art world, how she continues to evolve her practice, what it's like to be a working artist and a parent, getting a CBE, and much more!

Originally from Newcastle upon Tyne in England, Phyllida works across media including painting, sculpture, and drawing. She is known for using materials such as plaster, cement and scrim to turn the conventions of sculpture on its head. Phyllida has been widely exhibited across the globe, including, most recently, a solo show at the Royal Academy in London in 2019 and, just this month an exhibition at the Haus der Kunst in Munich, Germany. She presented an installation for the Tate Britain Commission 2014 in the museum's Duveen Galleries. Phyllida was also included in the 2013 Carnegie International in Pittsburgh, PA, which was co-curated by another Art from the Outside guest, Tina Kukielski. Phyllida Barlow is represented by Hauser and Wirth. 

In addition, among an almost never ending list of (very intimidating) accomplishments, Phyllida was was made a CBE for her services to the arts in 2015 and, in 2017, Barlow represented Great Britain at the Venice Biennale.

Some artists discussed in this episode:

  • Francois-Xavier Lalanne
  • François Lalanne
  • Robert Clatworthy
  • Elisabeth Frink
  • Henry Moore
  • Barbara Hepworth
  • Fabian Peake
  • Eddie Peake
  • Florence Peake

For images, artworks, and more behind the scenes goodness, follow @artfromtheoutsidepodcast on Instagram.

May 06, 202101:00:55
Gallerist Jessica Silverman on Building a Diverse Gallery Program

Gallerist Jessica Silverman on Building a Diverse Gallery Program

Apr 06, 202146:27
Artist Dayanita Singh on Expanding the Boundaries of Photography
Mar 17, 202149:54
Collector Pamela Joyner on Purpose and Patronage

Collector Pamela Joyner on Purpose and Patronage

This episode, we are very lucky to speak with the visionary collector, philanthropist, and our personal art world hero, Pamela Joyner.

Based in San Francisco, California, Pamela is a true champion for artists of African descent. Together with her husband Fred Giuffrida, she has built one of the world’s leading collections of  artworks by Black and African diaspora artists, including deep holdings of works by artists including Alma Thomas, Mark Bradford, Jack Whitten, and Sam Gilliam - among many others.

Their collection has been the subject of several museum exhibitions, including shows at Chicago’s Smart Museum of Art and the Nasher Museum of Art at Duke University. The collection is also documented in the beautiful book, Four Generations: The Joyner Giuffrida Collection of Abstract Art.

Pamela is also a distinguished and highly active philanthropist, sitting on the boards of multiple non-profit institutions, including the San Francisco MoMA, the J. Paul Getty Trust, the Art Institute of Chicago, and the Tate Americas foundation. She is also a founding member of the Black Trustee Alliance for Art Museums an organization of and for Black trustees currently serving on the boards of art museums within the United States. 

Some artists discussed:

  • Doron Langberg
  • Leonardo Drew
  • Alma Thomas
  • Norman Lewis
  • Sam Gilliam
  • Mark Bradford
  • Emanoel Araujo
  • Rachel Jones
  • Charles Gaines
  • Malik Gaines
  • Lauren Halsey
  • Rodney McMillian
  • Catherine Opie
  • David Huffman
  • Jordan Casteel
  • Kerry James Marshall 
  • Lorna Simpson
  • William Kentridge
  • Christina Quarles
  • Michael Armitage
  • Jean-Michel Basquiat

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Feb 12, 202101:05:29
Artist Jeffrey Gibson on Art, Identity, and Intersectionality

Artist Jeffrey Gibson on Art, Identity, and Intersectionality

In this episode we speak with the inspiring and brilliant artist, Jeffrey Gibson.

Jeffrey Gibson’s practice combines the cultural and artistic traditions of his Cherokee and Choctaw heritage with the visual languages of Modernism and themes from contemporary popular culture. 

Born in Colorado Springs, CO in 1972, Gibson grew up in urban centers in the United States, Germany, Korea, and England; which helped to influence his cross-cultural aesthetic. He earned a Bachelor of Fine Arts at the School of the Art Institute of Chicago and a Master of Arts in painting at the Royal College of Art in London. 

Gibson’s work is included in the permanent collections of the Whitney Museum of American Art in New York; Denver Art Museum; Museum of Fine Arts in Boston; and Crystal Bridges Museum of American Art in Bentonville, Arkansas - among many others. 

Gibson’s previous exhibitions include, Jeffrey Gibson, ‘LIKE A HAMMER,’ organized by the Denver Art Museum, and ‘This Is The Day,’ organized by The Wellin Museum. Other notable solo exhibitions include: ‘The Anthropophagic Effect’ (2019) The New Museum, New York; ‘Look How Far We’ve Come!’ (2017), Haggerty Museum of Art, Milwaukee; ‘Jeffrey Gibson: Speak to Me,’ (2017), Oklahoma Contemporary Arts Center, Oklahoma City; and ‘A Kind of Confession’ (2016), Savannah College of Art and Design Museum, Savannah. He was included in the 2019 Whitney Biennial and was featured in the outdoor exhibition “Monuments Now,” at Socrates Sculpture Park, in Long Island City.

Gibson is a recipient of numerous awards, notably a MacArthur Foundation Fellowship; Joan Mitchell Foundation Painters and Sculptors Grant; and Creative Capital Foundation Grant. He is currently an artist-in-residence and professor at Bard College and is based in Hudson, New York.

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Jan 26, 202101:02:58
Leslie-Lohman Museum Director Laura Raicovich on Why Art Is Never Neutral

Leslie-Lohman Museum Director Laura Raicovich on Why Art Is Never Neutral

This episode, we’re honored to be joined by curator, writer, and museum director Laura Raicovich.

Laura is currently the interim director of New York’s Leslie Lohman Museum of Art, one of the world’s only museums dedicated to the presentation queer art. Prior to assuming this role, Laura was the President and Executive Director of the Queens Museum in New York, where she was instrumental in transforming the museum to better serve its community, as well as expanding its roster of world-class exhibitions. During her tenure, she oversaw exhibitions of Mel Chin, William Gropper, and a show called Hey! Ho! Let's Go: Ramones and the Birth of Punk, an exploration of the band's punk ethics of resistance and roots in Queens.

Before the Queens Museum, Laura spent several years at Creative Time, the Dia: Art Foundation, the Guggenheim Museum, and many other incredible institutions.

Laura has also authored and edited several books, including "At the Lightning Field" (Coffee House Press, 2017) and "A Diary of Mysterious Difficulties" (Publication Studio, 2014). This year, she will also be launching a book on museums and the myth of neutrality titled "Culture Strike: Art and Museums in an Age of Protest," published by Verso Books.

Some artists (and others) discussed in this episode:

  • Keith Haring
  • Mel Chin
  • Tracy Reese
  • The Ramones
  • William Gropper
  • Rebecca Solnit
  • Duke Riley
  • Mariam Ghani
  • Alfred Jensen
  • Dan Graham
  • Jorge Pardo
  • Gerhard Richter
  • Mierle Laderman Ukeles
  • Elie Wiesel (who wrote, "we must take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented. Sometimes we must interfere")
  • Michelle Alexander (author of The New Jim Crow: Mass Incarceration in the Age of Colorblindness)

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Jan 05, 202157:25
Samdani Art Foundation's Nadia Samdani on How Collecting Art Changes the Conversation

Samdani Art Foundation's Nadia Samdani on How Collecting Art Changes the Conversation

This episode we are extremely excited to be talking to the boundary defying collector, philanthropist, and general art world powerhouse, Nadia Samdani. 

Based in Dhaka, Bangladesh, Nadia is the founder and director of the Samdani Art Foundation, which she launched in 2011 and has now become one of the leading non-profits focused on supporting the arts in and across South East Asia. 

In her role as Director of the Samdani Art Foundation, Nadia led the launch of the Dkaha Art Summit in 2012, a multifaceted, interdisciplinary biennial that brings together curators, artists, and other arts professionals from around the globe. 

Nadia is also very active philanthropically. She and her husband Rajeeb were founding members of the Tate’s South Asian Acquisition Committee.  And In 2017, with her husband Rajeeb, she was the first South Asian arts patron to receive the Montblanc de la Culture Arts Patronage Award. 

In 2014 the Samdanis were nominated in the Young Collector of the Year category for the Forbes India Art Award, in recognition of their impressive collection of artists such as Anish Kapoor, Bharti Kher, Jitish Kallat, Ravinder Reddy, Chitra Ganesh, and Subodh Gupta. 

Nadia and Rajeeb plan to soon expand their art empire with another major achievement: the opening of the Srihatta–Samdani Art Centre and Sculpture Park, which is currently slated to be inaugurated in 2021 in Sylhet, a city in eastern Bangladesh. 

Some artists discussed in this episode:

  • Dominique Gonzalez-Foerster
  • Haegue Yang
  • Adrián Villar Rojas
  • Ayesha Sultana
  • Munem Wasif
  • Reetu Sattar
  • Yasmin Jahan Nupur
  • Sadie Benning

Links: Samdani Art Foundation, Dhaka Art Summit, Srihatta

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Dec 15, 202056:38
Artist Ursula von Rydingsvard on Why She Makes Art

Artist Ursula von Rydingsvard on Why She Makes Art

This episode, we welcome the legendary artist Ursula von Rydinsvard. Known for her highly personal and often monumental sculptures in cedar and bronze, Ursula  has been working in Brooklyn, New York for the past 30 years. 

She has had numerous exhibitions around the world, including solo shows at the beautiful Yorkshire Sculpture Park in England, the 2015 Venice Biennale, and the amazing Fabric Workshop and Museum in Philadelphia

Her work is also in the permanent collections of museums including the Metropolitan Museum and MoMA in New York, the Boston Museum of Fine Arts, San Francisco MoMA, and the Walker Art Center in Minneapolis, just to name a few. And, to add to her massive list of accomplishments, Ursula was also inducted into the American Academy of Arts and Letters in 2008. 

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Nov 25, 202001:09:37
Gallerist Kavi Gupta on Building a Chicago Powerhouse

Gallerist Kavi Gupta on Building a Chicago Powerhouse

This episode we are so excited to be joined by an amazing gallerist and dear friend, Kavi Gupta. Kavi is the founder of the Kavi Gupta Gallery, which opened in Chicago’s West Loop neighborhood in 2002.

Since then, the gallery has grown to two permanent locations that host more than a dozen museum-quality exhibitions each year; representing artists such as: Mickalene Thomas, Manish Nai, Firelei Báez, Angel Otero, (and one of my personal favorites) Jeffrey Gibson - just to name a few. Working alongside these artists to develop new projects, original scholarship, and historic archives, Kavi Gupta's program is renowned for its strong academic focus and forward-thinking vision.

In addition, Kavi Gupta Gallery is a three-time recipient of the prestigious International Association of Art Critics Award for Best Show in a Commercial Space Nationally. You can follow the gallery on Instagram @kavigupta_

Some artists discussed this episode:

  • McArthur Binion
  • Jeffrey Gibson
  • Félix González-Torres
  • Mickalene Thomas
  • Roger Brown
  • Gladys Nilsson
  • Jim Nutt
  • Ed Paschke
  • Robert Gober
  • Gerald Williams
  • Theaster Gates

For images, artworks, and more behind the scenes goodness, follow @artfromtheoutsidepodcast on Instagram.

Nov 10, 202051:43
Artist Amy Khoshbin on Art and Activism
Oct 27, 202001:02:16
Art21 Executive Director Tina Kukielski on Art Outside the New York Bubble

Art21 Executive Director Tina Kukielski on Art Outside the New York Bubble

This episode, we speak to Tina Kukielski, the Executive Director and Chief Curator of Art21, one of the leading global producers of films and content about contemporary artists. Each month, more than 300,000 people from around the world tune in to Art21 to watch their Peabody Award Winning films with artists including Zanele Muholi, Theaster Gates, Luchita Hurtado, Jordan Casteel, and Pedro Reyes. 

In addition to leading Art21, Tina is also an active and widely respected curator. She was a co-curator of the acclaimed 2013 Carnegie International, bringing together 35 established and emerging artists from 19 different countries, including Sarah Lucas, Phyllida Barlow, Mark Leckey, and Nicole Eisenman. During her time at the Whitney Museum of American Art from 2002–2010, she worked to acquire and mount exhibitions by a wide range of celebrated contemporary artists.

As lead curator on the Hillman Photography Initiative at the Carnegie Museum of Art, Kukielski launched a number of digital initiatives and films series. In 2014, Kukielski co-produced a documentary film about Andy Warhol in partnership with artist Cory Arcangel documenting a digital conservation project which brought renewed attention to nearly forgotten artworks that Warhol made on an Amiga personal computer in 1985.

She is now working on the upcoming Front Triennial in Cleveland Ohio, which will open slightly delayed in 2022. The Triennial's title, Oh, Gods of Dust and Rainbows, is derived from a Langston Hughes poem. 

Some artists covered in this episode:

  • Pedro Reyes
  • Song Dong and Yin Xiuzhen
  • Xu Bing
  • Phyllida Barlow
  • Postcommodity
Oct 02, 202059:15
Artist Camilo Godoy on Art and Education

Artist Camilo Godoy on Art and Education

This episode we have a fantastic conversation with the talented artist Camilo Godoy. Camilo is an artist whose practice is concerned with the construction of political meanings and histories. His work engages with conceptual, photographic, and choreographic strategies to analyze and challenge past and present historical moments to imagine different subversive ways of being.

Godoy was born in Bogotá, Colombia and is currently based in New York, United States. He is a graduate of The New School with a BFA from Parsons School of Design, 2012; and a BA from Eugene Lang College of Liberal Arts, 2013. Godoy was a 2018 Session Artist, Recess; 2018 Artist-in-Residence, Leslie-Lohman Museum; 2018 Artist-in-Residence, coleção moraes-barbosa; 2017 Artist-in-Residence,
International Studio & Curatorial Program (ISCP); 2015-2017 Artist-in-Residence, Movement Research; among others. He has presented his work in New York at the Brooklyn Museum, CUE, Danspace Project; Mousonturm, Frankfurt; and Toronto Biennial, Toronto; among others.

In his teaching practice he uses inquiry-based, multimodal learning strategies and movement-based techniques to support intellectual and creative curiosity. Godoy has taught various age groups at the Brooklyn Museum, Dedalus Foundation, Leslie-Lohman Museum and Whitney Museum. His teaching philosophy is influenced by the writings of educational theorists, such as John Dewey, Paulo Freire, bell hooks and Corita Kent, who center democracy, love and joy as essential elements for teaching and learning.

Some artists mentioned in this episode:

  • Ed Clark
  • Gran Fury
  • Felix Gonzalez-Torres
  • Bob Mizer
  • Robert Mapplethorpe
  • Pepón Osorio
  • Mario Moore

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Sep 08, 202054:34
Gallerist Wendy Olsoff on P.P.O.W: 1983 to Present
Aug 06, 202001:07:20
Asia Society Museum Director Boon Hui Tan on their Inaugural Triennial

Asia Society Museum Director Boon Hui Tan on their Inaugural Triennial

This episode, we speak to the amazing Boon Hui Tan. Boon Hui is Vice President for Global Arts and Cultural Programs, and Director, of Asia Society Museum, New York, where he leads the organisation’s global arts and cultural activities spanning visual arts, performing arts and film. Previously, he was Director of the Singapore Art Museum from 2009 - 2013. In 2015, Boon Hui was Artistic Director for Singapour en France, le Festival, the largest multidisciplinary presentation of contemporary culture from Singapore and Southeast Asia in France. He is also co-curator of the inaugural Asia Society Triennial, which is slated to run October 27, 2020 through June 27, 2021. 

Some of the artists discussed in this episode:

  • James Turrell
  • Kimsooja
  • Shahzia Sikander
  • Yoko Ono
  • Nandalal Bose
  • Susie Ibarra
  • anGie seah
  • Keith Haring
  • Henry Chalfant

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Aug 06, 202040:32
Chisenhale Director Zoé Whitley on Soul of a Nation and Beyond

Chisenhale Director Zoé Whitley on Soul of a Nation and Beyond

Dr. Zoé Whitley is the Director of London’s Chisenhale Gallery. Prior to that, she’s held positions at the Hayward Gallery, the Tate, the Victoria & Albert Museum, and the Studio Museum in New York. Zoé was also the co-curator of the widely acclaimed Soul of a Nation exhibition at the Tate Modern in 2017. She curated the British Pavilion at the 2019 Venice Biennale and, in September, her show Elijah Pierce’s America will open at the Barnes Foundation in Philadelphia.

Some of the artists discussed in this episode:

  • Mat Collishaw
  • Anthea Hamilton
  • Helen Marten
  • Sonia Boyce
  • Betye Saar
  • Lubaina Himid
  • Sable Elyse Smith
  • Sam Gilliam
  • Frank Bowling
  • Charles White
  • Faith Ringgold


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Aug 05, 202001:09:00