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The Inclusion Exchange

The Inclusion Exchange

By Ayo Barley

The Inclusion Exchange video podcast meets virtually four times a year and brings together EDI experts and everyone from CEOs, Heads of HR, Team Leaders and workplace allies and advocates to exchange experiences, challenges, and trends with the shared objective of creating a better working environment for all.

Tune in to hear speakers from The Guardian, Citizen’s Advice and more as we highlight live examples and practical tips.
No limits: how organisations are narrowing the disability employment gap with Anoushe Husain, Paraclimber
No limits: how organisations are narrowing the disability employment gap with Anoushe Husain, Paraclimber
Episode Summary In this episode of The Inclusion Exchange, we bring you Anoushé Husain, Guinness World Record-Holding paraclimber, to talk about the ways in which organisations are narrowing the disability employment gap. Today, Anoushé talks about the stigmatisation of disabilities, how the views of disability are changing, her experiences becoming a wheelchair user, defining disabilities, where to find support, how to create safety in the workplace, positive initiatives that everyone can learn from, and her journey into paraclimbing. Timestamp Segments · [04:36] Anoushé’s origin story. · [09:02] Challenging the norm. · [11:17] How the views of disability are changing. · [15:50] New restrictions on Anoushé since becoming a wheelchair user. · [18:06] The disability employment gap. · [23:53] Intersectionality. · [28:20] What support is out there? · [30:46] Creating safety in a workplace. · [36:33] Barriers to representation. · [42:00] Positive initiatives. · [45:23] Why many organisations are not implementing changes. · [51:30] Anoushé’s paraclimbing. Notable Quotes · “The norm is wrong.” · “I reckon declaration rates are really low because people are really uncomfortable declaring still.” · “Often people don’t want to declare it because they don’t actually know what it means.” · “You can be who you want to be. You just need the right tools to enable that.” · “The wall remains the same. It’s only you who changes.” Resources www.disabilityrightsuk.org. www.scope.org.uk. www.shawtrust.org.uk. Relevant Links Website: www.anoushehusain.com.
55:40
December 11, 2022
Interview featuring Bakare Barley MD, Ayo Barley on Radio Sangam's The Culture Pot with Martin Morrison
Interview featuring Bakare Barley MD, Ayo Barley on Radio Sangam's The Culture Pot with Martin Morrison
Episode Summary In this episode of The Inclusion Exchange, we bring you Ayo Barley, MD of Bakare Barley, in an interview on The Culture Pot with Martin Morrison. Today, Ayo talks about her experiences growing up, the Bradford Race Riots, the New Leaders Network, the strong movement for changing the norms, breaking the cycle of under-representation, and the rise of the “woke” rhetoric against progress. Timestamp Segments · [01:15] A bit about Ayo. · [03:05] Ayo’s background. · [07:21] Ayo’s confidence. · [14:47] After university. · [17:28] Effective actions taken after the Bradford Race Riots. · [23:42] New Leaders Network. · [26:00] Changing the norms. · [31:36] Early projects at New Leaders Network. · [33:54] From New Leaders Network to Bakare Barley. · [36:04] The spectrum of organisations. · [39:52] Breaking the cycle. · [44:04] Resistance to progress. Notable Quotes · “Being around people of different faiths, different cultures, different backgrounds from a young age really does benefit you in terms of empathising and understanding.” · “Facts are powerful.” · “Providing people with a platform to be able to promote themselves is a really good first step.” · “It’s important that people in the workforce also know why they’re investing in doing this work.” · “By putting off equality and diversity, we are spiting ourselves.” Relevant Links Website: www.bakarebarley.com. LinkedIn: Ayo Barley. Twitter: @BakareBarleyLtd. Instagram: @bakarebarleyltd.
46:34
December 04, 2022
Black History and Black Futures with Andrew Lynch, Liverpool Historian
Black History and Black Futures with Andrew Lynch, Liverpool Historian
Episode Summary In this episode of The Inclusion Exchange, we bring you Andrew Lynch, Liverpool-based Historian, to talk about black history and black futures. Today, Andrew talks about the black history that people don’t learn about, the negatives and positives in black history, the worth of Africa, how the past has influenced the structure of society today, how to start improving experiences for black staff, and the science of ‘race’. Timestamp Segments · [03:47] Andrew’s background. · [06:56] The aspects of black history that people should know more about. · [13:55] Thriving and celebration within black history. · [19:40] Connecting to Africa. · [21:54] How the past has influenced the structural challenges of black people in the UK. · [34:36] Poor communication and cultural differences. · [37:38] The first step to improve experiences of black staff. · [45:35] Using the term ‘race’. Notable Quotes · “Your community is not limited to those who are around you alive today.” · “Divide and conquer has been traditionally used to keep people down.” · “The actions available to us are disproportionate to the size of the problem.” · “There’s no different kind of people. There’s just people.”
51:47
November 24, 2022
Creating a Culture of Accountability with Mandeep Rupra, Citizens Advice
Creating a Culture of Accountability with Mandeep Rupra, Citizens Advice
Episode Summary In this episode of The Inclusion Exchange, we bring you Mandeep Rupra, Head of Equity, Diversity, and Inclusion at Citizens Advice, to talk about creating a culture of accountability. Today, Mandeep talks about taking responsibility for advancing EDI, influencing people to be more accountable, EDI and austerity, getting leaders to make change happen, EDI approaches that do not work, low representation and disclosure, and initiatives that allows Mandeep to continue doing this work. Timestamp Segments · [02:25] Mandeep’s origin story. · [06:35] The most positive and most difficult parts of Mandeep’s story. · [10:21] The importance of EDI accountability. · [14:09] What can stop people from feeling accountable? · [16:23] What influences people to be more accountable? · [23:34] Initiatives that Mandeep is proud of. · [30:55] Will EDI be able to thrive in the next few years? · [36:50] How to get leaders to make change happen. · [40:38] Approaches that Mandeep does not recommend. · [46:19] Disclosure and low representation. · [48:44] What Mandeep has created that allows her to continue doing this work. Notable Quotes · “We are all socialised to have a level of privilege and power depending on what our identities are.” · “We all are accountable for advancing EDI.” · “Joy is an act of resistance.” · “If you are not feeling uncomfortable, you are not doing this work.” · “You don’t want the number to undermine what you’re trying to change.” · “We are all change agents because we all have a role to play.” Relevant Links Website: www.citizensadvice.org.uk. Twitter: @MRupra. LinkedIn: Mandeep Rupra.
52:04
November 24, 2022
Transforming workplace cultures through positive action with Joseph Harker, The Guardian
Transforming workplace cultures through positive action with Joseph Harker, The Guardian
Episode Summary In this episode of The Inclusion Exchange, we bring you Joseph Harker, Senior Editor of Diversity and Development at The Guardian, to talk about using positive action to transform workplace cultures. Today, Joseph talks about institutional racism, how he demonstrated to senior leadership that they were reenforcing institutional racism, the kinds of barriers that restrict diversity and inclusion, trans issues at The Guardian, The Guardian’s culture shift, and how to help support different sections if you have limited resources. Timestamp Segments · [01:58] Getting into what Joseph does. · [08:40] The most positive moments. · [11:54] The most difficult experiences on Joseph’s journey. · [17:44] Demonstrating to senior leadership that they were reenforcing institutional racism? · [24:17] Barriers and experiences that can restrict diversity and inclusion. · [27:17] Factors that influence POC going into or leaving journalism. · [32:08] Intersectionality and trans issues at The Guardian. · [37:13] Key factors that contributed to culture change at The Guardian. · [39:42] The most important actions that the media should introduce to create more balance. · [44:30] Resources to help with EDI. · [45:39] What needs to be done to help support different sections with limited resources? Notable Quotes · “You overcome one obstacle, and all you find is another obstacle.” · “In order to make change, you can’t alienate the people at the top.” · “Newness and different-ness rather than oldness and sameness.” · “There’s a model of diversity as the difference that makes no difference, as the change that brings no change.” · “Leaders have to reach out to people who are different.” · “No matter how clever you are, you cannot know what’s going on in the world from your ivory towers.” Resources The Sir Lenny Henry Centre for Media Diversity. Relevant Links Website: The Guardian. Twitter: @josephharker. LinkedIn: Joseph Harker.
50:13
November 24, 2022