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BARTALK

BARTALK

By BARTALK
BARTALK is a lecture-performance-storytelling series that usually happens physically in a bar in The Hague. Each edition has a theme and brings guests from different backgrounds (art, psychology, media technology, music, drag, martial arts, kink, math) to share their perspectives under the same subject. Past themes have included death and the afterlife, a history of burning, the living archive, and more.

Ultimately, BARTALK is a model of knowledge-sharing as community-building
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Apologies & Atonement: Sofia Hernández Chong Cuy (What's In A Name?)
In our final episode of Apologies & Atonement, we look at a local example of institutional apologies and speak with Sofia Hernández Chong Cuy, director of Kunstinstituut Melly. Since 2018, Sofia is the director of Melly, the institution formerly known as Witte de With Center for Contemporary Art in Rotterdam. Witte de With is a name attached to the colonial legacy of the Netherlands and has been a subject of contention in the Dutch art world.  In this episode, we speak with Sofia about the institutional transformation that comes with a name change, how she and her team navigated the politics inside and outside of the institution, and the role that humour should have in the art sector. Hosted by Yun Lee and Rae Parnell Produced by Hans Poel Theme music by Sro - Bring Back and Chad Crouch - Algorithms References: Kunstintituut Melly Open letter to Witte de With White Innocence - Gloria Wekker “My Body Does Not Exist” - Paul Preciado 
01:04:57
March 15, 2022
Apologies & Atonement: Lucas Johnson (Conflict Resolution)
In episode 3 of “Apologies and Atonement”, We talk to social healer Lucas Johnson about his approach to nonviolence, the complexity of reconciling / healing from colonial pasts, and what it takes to build a future together. We learn about how to think about non-violence as a muscle to be built, the role faith can have in conflict resolution, and how to show up bravely in all of our relationships. Hosted by Yun Lee and Rae Parnell Produced by Hans Poel Theme music by Sro - Bring Back and Chad Crouch - Algorithms References: On Being Project   International Fellowship of Reconciliation John Paul Lederach, “On Mass and Movement - the theory of critical yeast” 
56:28
March 07, 2022
Apologies & Atonement: Roy Heesakkers (Missing the Mark)
Corporations have given some notoriously bad apologies. So for this episode, we invited corporate lawyer Roy Heesakkers to think with us on corporate apologies in the context of environmental, social and human rights transgressions. Roy encourages us to think about how we can participate in corporate reform, how we as communities can hold corporations accountable, and how to engage in these topics with nuance and complexity. Hosted by Yun Lee & James Rae Parnell Produced by Hans Poel Transcribed by Sarafina van Ast References: The Voice Documentary 
01:02:47
February 28, 2022
Apologies & Atonement: James Rae Parnell (Sorry Seems To Be The Hardest Word)
We are all taught that apologies are important to resolve conflicts. They have an important function in our society- in personal relationships, between governments and citizens, corporations and consumers, celebrities and fans. But so often people are criticized for making bad apologies. In this BARTALK, we wonder: what makes a good apology? What are models of seeking atonement for your actions? What does justice look like for historical wrongdoings? What does it take to accept an apology? In this episode Yun Lee talks to co-host James Parnell about interpersonal conflict, cancel culture, and why sorry seems to be the hardest word. Hosted by Yun Lee Produced by Hans Poel Transcribed by Sarafina van Ast You can find more of James Parnell here and follow his Instagram here. References:  Buy a copy of Sorry Seems To Be The Hardest Word  Fucking Cancelled Podcast  Mia Mingus apology Listen to the story of Dan Harmon’s apology on This American Life  12-step - Twelve-step programs are mutual aid organizations for the purpose of recovery from substance addictions, behavioral addictions and compulsions. Dick Laurie, “How do we forgive our fathers?”- poem from the film Smoke Signals (1998)  
48:35
February 21, 2022
Flashback - Parties (ft. Bogomir Doringer and Amber Vineyard)
This is our very edition of BARTALK "Flashback" - a podcast episode where we invite guests from a past BARTALK to hear about how their work has developed since we last spoke. As we descend into more COVID lockdowns and regulations, we thought it might lift our spirits to check in with some of the guests from our party crew from earlier this year. In this episode, Bogomir Doringer and Amber Vineyard discuss how party scenes and their own work have adapted and changed since we last spoke. We chat about illegal parties in the parks of Berlin, the pros and cons of the Unmute Us protests, how their roles as artists and organizers are shaped by the back and forth of government regulations, and what Bogomir and Amber have learned from the lockdowns. Follow the work of Amber and Bogomir. Read transcription of the podcast here.  Hosted by Yun Lee and James Rae Parnell Produced by Hans Poel Theme music by Sro - Bring Back and Chad Crouch - Algorithms
58:12
December 20, 2021
Translation/Transcription: Vivian Caccuri (Translating mosquitos)
In the final episode of our translation and transcription season, we speak with artist Vivian Caccuri about her work listening to, synthesizing, and translating the sounds of the mosquito. We explore how and why mosquitos make their infamous sound, how colonialism has impacted species of mosquitos, how governments have politicized the image of the mosquito, and the beauty of researching socially stigmatized sounds.  Read the transcription of this episode here Hosted by Yun Lee and Rae Parnell Produced by Hans Poel Music by Vivian Caccuri Theme music by Sro - Bring Back and Chad Crouch - Algorithms You can find more of Vivian Caccuri here and follow her on Instagram here.
55:40
July 23, 2021
Translation/Transcription: Xavier Bridault (how translation shapes and is shaped by culture)
In episode 3 of Translation / Transcription, we talk to translator Xavier Bridault about his work as a translator, how legal parameters affect some translations, the mechanics of humour, how AI translators affect the ways we use and understand languages, how translation is used as a political tool, and how brands like McDonalds are translated to different cultural contexts. Read the transcription of this episode here Hosted by Yun Lee and Rae Parnell Produced by Hans Poel Theme music by Sro - Bring Back and Chad Crouch - Algorithms
39:31
July 16, 2021
Translation/Transcription: Karina Dukalska (archiving dance in graphic notation)
In the second episode of Translation / Transcription, dancer and graphic designer Karina Dukalska shares her research on archiving dance in graphic notation. We talk about social dance, notation systems, preserving the cultural values of a dance and more. Read the transcription of this episode here Hosted by Yun Lee and Rae Parnell Produced by Hans Poel Transcribed by Sarafina van Ast You can find more of Karina Dukalska here and follow her on Instagram here. Back It Up BodyScores
51:56
July 09, 2021
Translation/Transcription: Ahnjili Zhuparris (quantified self, predictive policing, AI pickup artist)
Season 4! BARTALK looks into translation and transcription as creative practices. How does technology affect how humans translate? What are the politics of transcribing social dance as visual scores? What happens when we translate between species? What decisions are made in translation and who makes them? What is lost and gained in these translations? In the first episode of Translation/Transcription, data scientist Ahnjili Zhuparris helps us demystify data science and the process of translating data into useful information. We also talk to her about the quantified self community, predictive policing algorithms, AI pickup artists, ethical AI and more. Hosted by Yun Lee and Rae Parnell Produced by Hans Poel Theme music by Sro - Bring Back and Chad Crouch - Algorithms You can find more of Ahnjili’s projects here, and see her AI art here References: Seth Stephens-Davidowitz, Everybody Lies https://www.bol.com/nl/nl/f/everybody-lies/9200000055527745/ Ahnjili Zhuparris, Menstrual Cycles, 50 Cent, and Right Swipes Beijing’s Big Brother Tech needs African Faces https://foreignpolicy.com/2018/07/24/beijings-big-brother-tech-needs-african-faces/ On the use of artificial intelligence in the Dutch judicial branch https://algorithmwatch.org/en/automating-society-2019/netherlands/ Pablo Celayes - Activists turn facial recognition tools against the police https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/21/technology/facial-recognition-police.html?smid=tw-share
57:13
July 02, 2021
Parties: Amber Vineyard (conducting energy as a host)
In the final episode of this season on parties, we talk to hostess, performer and pioneering mother of Dutch ballroom Amber Vineyard about her background from humble beginnings running off to raves in California to running her own entertainment agency. Amber also shares stories and knowledge on how to conduct energy in a room, how she comes up with her looks, how door policies can help create atmosphere, how to have difficult conversations about inclusivity when planning an event, and how to lay down the law while keeping the party going. Read transcript here Follow Amber here: Instagram: @ambervineyard, @houseofvineyard Facebook: House of Vineyard Follow BARTALK here: Instagram: @bartalk.dh Website: bartalkdh.wordpress.com Hosted by Yun Lee and Rae Parnell Produced by Hans Poel Theme music by Sro - Bring Back and Chad Crouch - Algorithms Transcribed by Sarafina van Ast This BARTALK episode is made possible with the generous support of Mondriaanfonds and was recorded at WORM Rotterdam
01:33:35
April 02, 2021
Parties: Philip Vermeulen (bringing the club to the art world)
In Episode 3 of Parties, artist Philip Vermeulen talks to us about bringing the club to the art world through his large-scale audiovisual kinetic installations, how his work replicate different states of mind in clubbing, and how he got so good at sober partying. Follow Philip here: Instagram: @philip_vermeulen_3000 www.philipvermeulen.com Follow BARTALK here: Instagram: @bartalk.dh Website: bartalkdh.wordpress.com Hosted by Yun Lee and Rae Parnell Produced by Hans Poel Theme music by Sro - Bring Back and Chad Crouch - Algorithms Sounds of Boem BOem, Flapflap, and More Moiré courtesy of Philip Vermeulen End composition “voom voom” by Yun Lee Transcribed by Sarafina van Ast This BARTALK episode is made possible with the generous support of Mondriaanfonds and was recorded at WORM Rotterdam
38:52
March 26, 2021
Parties: Khalil Ryahi (how to be a professional party animal)
In episode 2 of “Parties”, Rae and Yun talk to professional party animal, DJ, record label owner, mentor, and party organizer Khalil Riyahi. Khalil gives us the scoop on how he started his nightlife career, what makes a good party, the Dutch concept of a ‘night mayor’, and what alternatives people are exploring during the pandemic. Read transcript here Follow Khalil here: Instagram: @khalil_ryahi, @infinite__pleasure infinite-pleasure.bandcamp.com soundcloud.com/infinitepleasure Follow BARTALK here: Instagram: @bartalk.dh Website: bartalkdh.wordpress.com Hosted by Yun Lee and Rae Parnell Produced by Hans Poel Theme music by Sro - Bring Back and Chad Crouch - Algorithms Transcribed by Sarafina van Ast This BARTALK episode is made possible with the generous support of Mondriaanfonds and was partially recorded at WORM Rotterdam
54:58
March 19, 2021
Parties: Bogomir Doringer (dancing in times of crisis)
In season 3 we explore parties. For many of us it's been about a year since we've danced in a crowd, flirted in dark spaces, felt bass pumping through our bodies. So we're taking the time to look deep into different aspects of nightlife. In this first episode, artist and curator Bogomir Doringer talks to us about his ongoing research and filming project "I Dance Alone" which observes clubbing from a birds-eye-view as a mirror of social and political changes. We talk about his clubbing background in Serbia, dance floors that he observed all over the world, and why people dance in times of crisis.  Read transcript here Hosted by Yun Lee and Rae Parnell Produced by Hans Poel Theme music by Sro - Bring Back and Chad Crouch - Algorithms Transcribed by Sarafina van Ast Find Bogomir and his work here: https://bogomirdoringer.info/ https://danceofurgency.com/ Other references: Kelina Gotman, Choreomania : Dance and Disorder Select sound sources: 6:18 - Belgrade demonstrations against Milosevic's regime 9-3-1991 6:18 - Dejan Mirkovich/DJ S.T.R.O.B. at Klub Industrija, 1995 28:50 - BBC News - Georgia's rave revolution, July 30 2018 29:15 - The Guardian - Berlin anti-fascist protests, October 14, 2018 This BARTALK episode is made possible with the generous support of Mondriaanfonds and was partially recorded at WORM Rotterdam.
55:15
March 12, 2021
Care: Black Trans Art and Joy Fund (Mutual Aid, Allyship, Solidarity)
In the final episode of our miniseries on Care, we talk to Sharona Lautoe and Xiomara Vírdo from the Black Trans Art and Joy Fund (BTAJF). We ask questions like what does it take to start a mutual aid fund? What does genuine allyship and solidarity look like? Why choose mutual aid instead of a charity model? And how do you create an environment where people feel comfortable reaching out for help? The Black Trans Art & Joy Fund is a Dutch-based private initiative founded by Naïmah Janse, Sharona Lautoe and Xiomara Virdó that centers community care for Black Trans people (black trans women, black trans men and black trans non binary people). They organize crowdfunding initiatives, connect networks, and offer practical support to provide the community with space to create, share their art and legacy, and above all: experience joy. The BTAJF team is a combination of black trans and black and white cis people who are focused on tangible change for the black trans community worldwide. Find BTAJF here: https://blacktransajf.wixsite.com/mijnsite https://www.instagram.com/blacktransajf/ Read the episode transcript here Hosted by Yun Lee and Rae Parnell Produced by Hans Poel Music by Sro - Bring Back and Chad Crouch - Algorithms Transcribed by Sarafina van Ast This BARTALK episode is made possible with the generous support of Stroom Den Haag and iii
54:23
December 22, 2020
Care: Lilita Dunska (music for animals, interspecies care)
In episode three of our miniseries on Care, we wanted to look at interspecies care. Is it possible to do genuinely? To explore this question, we talk to recording engineer and cognitive musicology student Lilita Dunska about human-animal music playing practices for non-human animals, online community building through pet playlists, the trend of pet humanization, and critical anthropomorphism. References: Farmer Derek, Serenading the Cattle with my trombone (Lorde-Royals) David Teie, Music for Cats Cat headphones Sheng Wen Lo, Extendable Ears Read the episode transcription here Hosted by Yun Lee and Rae Parnell Produced by Hans Poel Music by Sro - Bring Back and Chad Crouch - Algorithms Transcribed by Sarafina van Ast This BARTALK episode is made possible with the generous support of Stroom Den Haag and iii.
51:07
December 15, 2020
Care: Damani Leidsman (community care, inclusivity in the cultural sector)
In this second episode of Care, Yun and Rae speak with Damani Leidsman about community care, power building, the dutch cultural sector and mentorship. Damani Leidsman grew up in The Netherlands and Suriname. He is a performance artist, maker, educator, and freelance consultant and producer. Damani is mostly busy with  strengthening queer and black communities to create room for new radical art. Alongside his creative projects, he advises organisations on issues of talent development, art education, diversity and how to create a healthy creative climate. Read transcript here Hosted by Yun Lee and Rae Parnell Produced by Hans Poel Music by Sro - Bring Back and Chad Crouch - Algorithms Transcribed by Sarafina van Ast This BARTALK episode is made possible with the generous support of Stroom Den Haag and iii.
50:10
December 09, 2020
Care: Sylvie Rosenkalt (disability justice, healing justice)
BARTALK: Care BARTALK is a lecture-performance-storytelling series taking place in different bars in The Hague and sometimes online. Each event/podcast is themed which we ask 4 guests to share their research and stories on. This miniseries is on care and on this episode, we talk to Sylvie Rosenkalt about her work in disability justice, healing justice, and sustainable work practice. Sylvie is a queer disabled educator and activist. Her experiences with crip mentorship have fueled her desire to create formal and informal mentorship opportunities for disabled folks. Sylvie is focused on ways to welcome more people into disability culture through mutual aid projects. Currently Sylvie is works at the UIC Disability Cultural Center and is pursuing a Masters in Education with a focus on critical special education. Episode transcription: https://bartalkdh.files.wordpress.com/2020/12/bartalk-podcast-1.pdf Links: Principles / definition of disability justice: https://www.sinsinvalid.org/blog/disability-justice-a-working-draft-by-patty-berne Access Is Love: https://www.disabilityintersectionalitysummit.com/access-is-love Forced intimacy: https://leavingevidence.wordpress.com/2017/08/06/forced-intimacy-an-ableist-norm/ Acces Labor video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfHavOGL4Zc Hosted by Yun Lee and Rae Parnell Produced by Hans Poel Music by Sro - Bring Back and Chad Crouch - Algorithms Transcribed by Sarafina van Ast This BARTALK episode is made possible with the generous support of Stroom Den Haag and iii
57:52
December 01, 2020
Language as an Organism: Minsook Kang (importing an alphabet)
In our last episode of the series “Language as an Organism”, artistic researcher Minsook Kang tells the story of how Hangeul, the Korean alphabet, got imported to the Cia-Cia tribe in Indonesia. Minsook was about to go on a field trip to Indonesia in order to dive further into her research when the coronavirus hit, so follow this story as it unravels political and cultural questions, historical significance, media misrepresentation, and a few yet-to-be answered questions. Minsook Kang’s website: http://www.minsookkang.com/ News clip from Arirang News: “10 years passed since indonesia’s Cia-Cia tribe adopted Hangeul” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOC1ccLSRlY Quest to Globalize Hangeul Raises Questions http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/special/2010/01/177_59789.html Hosted by Yun Lee and Rae Parnell Produced by Hans Poel Music by Sro - Bring Back and Chad Crouch - Algorithms
13:34
June 15, 2020
Language as an Organism: Marik de Koning (linguist, teacher)
In this third episode of BARTALK: Language as an Organism, Yun and Rae talk to their Dutch teacher Marik de Koning about Harry Potter, regional accents, gendered languages, idioms and more. Hosted by Yun Lee and Rae Parnell Produced by Hans Poel Music by Sro - Bring Back and Chad Crouch - Algorithms
22:52
June 08, 2020
Language as an Organism: Natalia Papaeva (losing your mother tongue)
In this second episode of Language as an Organism, Yun & Rae talk to performance artist Natalia Papaeva about her work Yokhor, in which she sings the only two lines she remembers from her favourite song in her mother tongue Buryat. Natalia answers questions from the audience and discusses losing a language, gaining new ones, layers of repetition, performing grief and more. You can see the trailer of Yokhor here:  https://vimeo.com/368295268 More work from Natalia: https://cargocollective.com/natashapapaeva Sources for learning Buryat: podcast Sagaan bulag:http://sagaanbulag.com/ Buryat researcher Agnieska Matkowska insta: @agamatkowska Buryat language activist: Ershena Dondokova insta: @era_miracle Educational insta account: @helysh_malysh Buryat poet: Elbeg  Zandraev @elbeguu Hosted by Yun Lee and Rae Parnell Produced by Hans Poel Music by Sro - Bring Back and Chad Crouch - Algorithms
30:53
June 01, 2020
Language as an Organism: Marie Diane Grouchka and Mariya Scherbinina (alchemy of love languages)
BARTALK: Language as an Organism BARTALK is a multidisciplinary lecture-performance-storytelling series taking place in different bars in The Hague. In current corona times, we are bringing BARTALK to a podcast format. Our guests share their stories and perspectives after which we ask them questions (including audience contributions!) Episode 1: The Alchemy of Language in Relationships featuring Marie Diane Grouchka and Mariya Shcherbinina, therapists at PSYNT (The Hague). Their practice focuses on the LGBTQ+ community and ex-pats. M.D. and Mariya also run their own podcast series called BiPositive where they explore the sexual continuum. In alchemy, you learn to understand, decompose and then create. M.D and Mariya will walk you through the process of creating meaning in relationships and how our cultural differences can influence the dynamics of our communication. They will also give us some tools to get better at finding common ground with the ones we love. We talk not only about romantic relationships, but also familial relationships and friendships. Hosted by Yun Lee and Rae Parnell Produced by Hans Poel Music by Sro - Bring Back and Chad Crouch - Algorithms
36:29
May 25, 2020