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Publics & Privates OKpreps Podcast

Publics & Privates OKpreps Podcast

By Ben Johnson
Your go-to podcast for all things high school sports in Oklahoma
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Crunch Time for Basketball & Wrestling
State tournament wrestling is this weekend, and small school basketball teams will be punching their tickets to the state tournament in area tournament play.  Listen in as we break it all down for you.  And thanks for listening!
February 27, 2020
We're now a week away from real-life, actual football. (Well, games that actually count) This week we pay tribute to one of the state's best, Mr. Ray West, who passed away recent. Swisher shares several great stories about West and what he meant to a lot of people in this great state. Then we start our football previews, talking about Classes 6AI through 4A. We unveil our top 10 in each class and offer up some storylines along the way. Want to interact with the podcast? Tweet us at @michaelswisher & @benjohnsontul Or you can email the show at As always, thanks for listening!
August 22, 2019
We finally took the plunge and did a deep dive into the long-standing public schools vs. private schools debate in Oklahoma. Cashion head football coach (and athletic director) Lynn Shackelford (24:45) joined us to share his thoughts from the public side, and Bishop Kelley athletic director Lance Parks (46:24) offered up some insight from the private school side. Regardless of which side you're on, both make great points. Both have valid arguments.  Also, we talk about some recent football commitments, including Broken Arrow's Andrew Raym siding with the Sooners. The chat briefly about OSU's recruiting class after Bixby's Brennan Presley vowed his commitment to the Cowboys. But perhaps most importantly, we talked food (5:46). Is there a place that we think is overrated? Underrated? FYI: We talked pizza! Have your own thoughts on food or the public/private debate? Tweet us at @benjohnsontul or @michaelswisher.  Or send us an email at & we'll answer any questions or read comments on the next podcast. Thanks so much for listening!
July 18, 2019
Time for some Skordle Showdowns
FOOTBALL'S BACK!! Well, not really. But kind of. Skordle is hosting two different 7-on-7 football tournaments, all thanks to wonderful sponsors, Tulsa Tech and Charleston's. The guys break down both Showdowns, and chat about players to watch and what to keep an eye out for. And shoutout to the 7-on-7 event in Norman live streaming several of the matchups. Later in the episode, the OSSAA's Chris Wilfong joins the podcast to talk about his tremendous website - ... if you've never checked it out, do it now. It has everything you'd ever want to know about high school sports in Oklahoma.  As always, thanks for listening.  And send us your feedback at @benjohnsontul or @michaelswisher
June 20, 2019
Summer is coming ..... (well, it's already here)
It's that time of year again. Summertime has arrived, and high school sports fans are left waiting for more games in August. But fear not! The Publics and Privates OKpreps Podcast will help get you through the slow months. This week the guys recap some state tournament baseball, including Edmond Santa Fe and Pryor winning titles for the first time for both programs. The guys also look back on the memorable moments from the 2018-2019 athletic season, including some cross country, football, basketball and much more.  The podcast closes out with Swisher breaking down this week's Skordle Shootout in Cushing. A solid field of small school hoopsters will be at Cushing Middle School, and Swisher gives you all the details you need to stop by and watch some basketball. We'd welcome your feedback! Tweet at us - @michaelswisher & @benjohnsontul
June 04, 2019
EPIC Slowpitch talk ... hooray spring sports!
It's hardware galore as spring sports wind down. Michael and Ben dissect baseball, slowpitch softball, golf, track & soccer as teams and individuals enter the final weekend of competition for this athletic season. Find out which performances this spring have impressed the guys the most, and listen in as they give props to the outstanding offensive performances at the slowpitch state tournaments that happened to close out the school year. All that, plus some coaching moves to mention, including Justin Brown filling the shoes left by Larry Callison at Tahlequah Sequoyah. And also some football recruiting tidbits. Thanks as always for listening.  WE WANT YOUR FEEDBACK! Have a topic you'd like discussed, or have any questions for us, feel free to contact the show at: EMAIL:  @michaelswisher & @benjohnsontul
May 10, 2019
Break out the baseball's spring sports season
Michael and Ben return with a quick glimpse into spring sports across Oklahoma. The guys talk about some recent news items in Oklahoma, and spend some time talking about Broken Arrow's announcement of a girls varsity wrestling team - the first program of its kind in Oklahoma. The episode wraps up with an interview of Shawn Jones, who recently stepped down as Broken Arrow's wrestling coach.  Thanks for listening!
April 06, 2019
Goodbye, basketball
The guys put a bow on the high school basketball season & recap the weekend that was from State Fair Arena and the Mabee Center. Both Michael and Ben also name their tournament MVPs for each class. Then they spend a few minutes talking about the newly-announced inductees to the Oklahoma Coaches Association' s Hall of Fame class. That, plus hitting the highlights on the All-State wrestling nominees. As always, thank you for listening.  Email the show at | Tweet at us - @michaelswisher or @benjohnsontul
March 13, 2019
State basketball - from start to finish
Made a big podcast addition this week. Ben & Swisher are joined by the Oklahoman's Jacob Unruh. Jacob & Swisher recap the highlights and the championship moments from the Class A & Class B state tournaments. Then the guys break down the state tournaments from 2A through 6A. And of course, PREDICTIONS! (Most sure to go wrong, in Ben's case). Have feedback for the show? Tweet at us - @michaelswisher or @benjohnsontul | Or email us at And as always, thanks for listening!
March 06, 2019
Time to talk Big House
Medals and trophies have been handed out to wrestlers across the state. Now it’s time for basketball teams to start claiming hardware. Ben and Michael dive into Class A & B state basketball tournaments on tap this week, and they guys also make their predictions in each class. Ben breaks down what happened at the state wrestling tournament and some of the various highlights along the way.  Also added a new segment where the guys named their MVPs of the week. Listen in and find out who they dubbed as last week’s MVPs. All that leading up to Michael's interview with Okarche coach Ray West. You don't want to miss what West had to say. Thanks for listening & enjoy! Have any feedback? Email the show at
February 27, 2019
Talkin' Wrestlin' ..... (and hoops)
The winter sports season is winding down, so we dissect playoffs happenings in Class 4A through Class B basketball. Swisher breaks down what happened on the hardwood, and what to look forward to this week. Then we shift gears and Ben breaks down the state wrestling fields with Brian  Heindselman. We make some predictions and let fans know what to watch for at Jim Norick Arena over the weekend. (PS, we think Tuttle is pretty good. SURPRISE!) Email the show at - Have a question you want answered on the podcast? Email us & we'll talk about it on the next show.  Enjoy!
February 21, 2019
"Officially Official"
The podcast now has an official logo & an official intro (thanks to Tom Nelson at  Chisholm Trail Broadcasting)! This week we talk about some high school football rule changes before diving into basketball playoffs in Classes A & B. Also break down what happened at dual state before interviews with Tuttle wrestling coach Matt Surber and Tuttle wrestler Carson Berryhill. Enjoy! (Also, we want your feedback. Tweet at us - @michaelswisher & @BenJohnsonTUL - and let us know what you think.)
February 13, 2019
Signing Day Special
Break down signees on Signing Day, plus a. look at upcoming basketball playoffs. Then quick mention of dual state. Also, sit-down interviews in Bixby with the Spartans' Ainslie Lane (36:40), Noah West (45:15) & Cade Cavender (48:44). ENJOY!
February 08, 2019
"Best Playoff System in the Country"
We breakdown the OCA All-State football rosters. Talk some Tuttle wrestling and chat briefly about former Adair great Kevi Luper and her jersey being retired at ORU. Finish with an interview of the OSSAA's David Glover about what goes into the process of small school playoff assignments.
January 31, 2019
Analyzing All-State teams
Introducing our first Publics & Privates OKpreps Podcast episode by breaking down the Skordle All-State football teams. Mix in some public-private debate opinions, and a glimpse into small school basketball with postseason play on the horizon. And let us know what you think. Tweet at us ... @michaelswisher & @benjohnsontul. Or email us at Thanks for listening & enjoy!
January 21, 2019