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EP 31: 2023 Ramblings with Ezra & Andrew

The Bikepack Racing PodcastJan 12, 2024

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EP 31: 2023 Ramblings with Ezra & Andrew

EP 31: 2023 Ramblings with Ezra & Andrew

The episode title really says it all! Ezra and Andrew sit down for a very informal recap of the 2023 season, while also looking forward to 2024. Highs and lows are discussed, future plans are divulged, and incredible accomplishments are recognized. We know it's a longer one...but the end does get a bit spicy as some strong remarks are made about the cycling industry relating to its lack of relationship with bikepacking and bikepack racing. We've also got a bit of a call for action: Got any questions or topics you'd like to hear discussed? People you really want us to talk to? Send us whatever you've got via instagram to @thebikepackracingpodcast - Thanks and happy listening!

Jan 12, 202401:49:36
EP 30: Abe Kaufman

EP 30: Abe Kaufman

"The current best American bikepack racer." That's the title Ezra gave Abe Kaufman after he smashed the FKT at the Arkansas High Country Race this October. Add in a 4th place finish at the 2022 Tour Divide plus FKTs at Trans North Georgia and Trans Virginia, and it's safe to say Abe is certainly a dangerous man when it comes to bikepack racing. In this episode we dive into Abe's relatively recent introduction to the sport, his calculated and comprehensive approach to racing, and how he keeps a smile on his face deep into these massive efforts. If this conversation doesn't get you stoked on setting big goals for 2024...we don't know what will...enjoy!

Dec 19, 202301:21:00
EP 29: Daniel Connell aka "DIRTY DAN"

EP 29: Daniel Connell aka "DIRTY DAN"

Making his second appearance on the podcast, Daniel Connell aka "Dirty Dan" is back to talk all things 2023 Tour Divide. This year was Dan's fourth consecutive Tour Divide finish! We take a deep dive into everything that went down as Dan fought through his fair share of obstacles to finish in his fastest time yet at 16 days 16 hours 4 minutes. This conversation is a must listen to for anyone considering the Divide in the future. It certainly got us stoked, and we hope it does the same for you too!
Dec 19, 202302:09:33
EP 28: We're Back?

EP 28: We're Back?

To start...sorry! We know it's been a minute...or 8 months...but we are trying to get this thing rolling again. In this "catch-up" episode Andrew and Ezra sit down and have a meandering conversation about a whole lot of bikepacking, bikepack racing, bike racing, and general life things. It was oh so good to sit down and catch up. We hope you enjoy listening to this unedited conversation.

Dec 19, 202301:14:10
EP 27: Jeff Kerkove

EP 27: Jeff Kerkove

Jeff Kerkove is truly a legend of bikepack racing. Jeff and his friends were racing bikes offroad in extreme and unique ways before the words "Gravel racing" and "Bikepacking" were commonplace in the cycling world. In this conversation, we dive into Jeff's start in the 12/24 hour mountain bike race scene, a 14 year battle with finishing the Colorado Trail Race, his most recent race effort in Morocco at the Atlas Mountain Race, and much more bikepacking and bikepack racing goodness.
Mar 13, 202301:07:52
EP 26: Meaghan Hackinen

EP 26: Meaghan Hackinen

We couldn't think of a better way to kick off 2023 than with a multi-time world champion. Our guest for episode 26 is two-time 24hr Time Trial World Champion Meaghan Hackinen. Meaghan had an absolutely massive 2022 season: competing in The Transcontinental No8, setting a new fastest known time while taking the win at The Big Lonely, and then winning her second 24hr Time Trial World Championship. We discuss her efforts at these events, the specific training and preparation required to succeed at such a wide variety of events, and much much more.
Jan 18, 202301:07:43
EP 25: 2022 Ramblings with Ezra & Andrew

EP 25: 2022 Ramblings with Ezra & Andrew

In this final episode of 2022, Ezra and Andrew sit down for a rather informal and rambling wrap up of the past year. They discuss their own personal highs and lows from the past racing season. Talk about the current state and future of The Bikepack Racing Podcast. And go on more than a few tangents into other bikepacking related topics.  Hopefully this episode finds you either on the couch recovering from a hangover or on the bike chasing new 2023 resolutions...either way...enjoy and thanks for listening in 2022!    

Jan 01, 202301:46:41
EP 24: 2022 Part Two with Lauren Brownlee

EP 24: 2022 Part Two with Lauren Brownlee

For episode 24, we have our first recurring guest of the podcast. Back in May, Lauren Brownlee sat down in Ezra's van to chat after a victory at Ride/Race Across Arizona and then a podium finish at Pinyons and Pines Bikepacking Race. You can listen to that conversation in episode 9. This conversation picks up where we left off as we discuss Lauren's second half of the 2022 season. Which included taking on the Boise Trail Challenge in a way only a seasoned bikepack racer would find fun, turning on "touring mode" after mechanical issues at the Colorado Trail Race, and then a return to winning ways at Idaho Smoke and Fire 400.       

Nov 25, 202201:15:29
EP 23: Kurt Refsnider on All Things Bikepacking + Backcountry

EP 23: Kurt Refsnider on All Things Bikepacking + Backcountry

Our guest for Episode 23 needs no introduction in the bikepack racing world. Kurt Refsnider is arguably the greatest bikepack racer of all time. He was the first person to ever win the "bikepacking triple crown", winning the Tour Divide in 2011, the Arizona Trail Race in 2018, and the Colorado Trail Race in 2019-- plus, he's earned countless other bikepack racing wins and FKTs. Kurt has also been remarkably active in the bikepacking community. He's the owner and head coach for UltraMTB ( www.ultramtb.net), co-founder the bikepacking advocacy organization Bikepacking Roots (www.bikepackingroots.org), and has recently become much more involved with the climate activist organization Protect Our Winters (protectourwinters.org).
If your curious about Kurt's background and previous year's adventures, I highly recommended checking out the podcasts I listened to in preparation for this absolutely fantastic conversation. Those podcasts are: Bikes or Death Ep. 24, Overland Archive Ep. 9, The Adventure Stache (Sep 29, 2020), Overland Archive Ep. 31, and BIKES BIKES BIKES! (Jul 4, 2022). I hope you enjoy listening to this conversation as much as I enjoyed having it!
Nov 08, 202202:02:03
EP 22: Tales from the Arkansas High Country Race with Daniel Connell

EP 22: Tales from the Arkansas High Country Race with Daniel Connell

...and we are back! This episode was recorded live from the finish of the 2022 Arkansas High Country Race in beautiful Hot Springs, AR where Ezra and Andrew sat down for an in person conversation with 3rd place finisher Daniel Connell. The conversation begins with a much too short exploration of Dan's extensive touring excursions in Central America, across the entirety of Africa (@locociclos on IG) , and on the Great Divide Mountain Bike Route . We discuss the challenges and benefits of "winging it" while on an adventure, trip saving encounters with members of the Sudanese national cycling team, and much much more. We eventually transition to all things AHCR, where Dan and Ezra give a day by day recap of their battle for the final podium spot in the mountains of Arkansas...Spoiler alert: Dan wins!  

Oct 20, 202202:05:16
EP 21: Hannah Dhonau of Wild Composite Racing on Winning North South Colorado

EP 21: Hannah Dhonau of Wild Composite Racing on Winning North South Colorado

She's been a bit hard to track down...especially these past few months...as she bounces across the country from bikepacking race to gravel race to yet another bikepacking race. Even now, as I hit publish on this episode, Hannah Dhonau is on course at the Smoke 'n' Fire 400 in the mountains of Idaho. We wanted to get Hannah on the podcast after her first ever win at the 2022 North to South Colorado Bikepacking Race. And we do get to everything that went down in Colorado this July, but first we discuss her midwest upbringing, her two trips on the Tour Divide, her work with the gender expansive cycling team: Wild Composite Racing, and much much more!
Sep 08, 202201:50:37
EP 20: Will Bodewes Winning the Colorado Trail Race

EP 20: Will Bodewes Winning the Colorado Trail Race

What does it take to win the Colorado Trail Race? For Will Bodewes, it might be a little...or a lot different than what you'd expect. Sleep banking for fourteen days before the start of the race, a majority of training being less than an hour, using olive oil as chain lube, and eating a block of cheese during the race. These are just some of the many unique ways Will prepared for and executed on the 2022 Colorado Trail Race. The episode starts with a bit of background information on Will, but it isn't long until it's all things CTR! 

Aug 26, 202201:29:55
EP 19: Andrew's North South Colorado Victory

EP 19: Andrew's North South Colorado Victory

It's taken a minute (or a month), but in this episode we finally hear from Andrew on his incredible effort to win to his first bikepack race at North South Colorado Bikepacking Race. Andrew covers his time spent in Colorado before the race, pre-race mishaps, racing head to head with one of the greatest ultra endurance athletes ever, the lows you don't see while watching the dots, and what it felt like to finally push through years of adversary and mishaps in previous races to take his first ever bikepacking race win.

Aug 04, 202201:35:43
EP 18: Mateo Páez Experiencing Iceland at The Westfjords Way Challenge

EP 18: Mateo Páez Experiencing Iceland at The Westfjords Way Challenge

Mateo Páez has stormed onto the ultra endurance/bikepack racing circuit in 2022. He started the year with a 3rd place finish at his debut bikepacking race: the Stagecoach 400, struggled with some gnarly weather at The Odyssey of the VOG, before bouncing back with another 3rd place finish at the inaugural Westfjords Way Challenge. In this episode, we chat about Matt's start in cycling, his first bikepack racing efforts, and then focus in on the unique experience of racing in Iceland at the equally unique Westfjords Way Challenge. Mandatory cultural stops? Lael Wilcox playing on a trampoline mid-race? Reykjavík road racing team tactics? This event had a little bit of everything...and we talk about it all!     

Jul 20, 202201:09:04
EP 17: Ezra's Tour Divide Experience

EP 17: Ezra's Tour Divide Experience

We had big plans to cover both Andrew's first bikepack racing win at North South Colorado and Ezra's experience at the Tour Divide, but we ended up taking the deepest of deep dives into everything that went down for Ezra during his first run at the divide. It's a long one...and Ezra talks a lot...so if that doesn't interest you...feel free to skip this one! But if you are interested in an indepth day by day breakdown intermixed with lessons learned along the way for a Tour Divide rookie...then this is the conversation for you! Don't worry, Andrew's full North South Colorado race winning recap is on the way!
Jul 15, 202201:57:17
EP 16: Winning BC Epic with Cory Ostertag

EP 16: Winning BC Epic with Cory Ostertag

The Tour Divide might have taken up most dot watchers attention during the month of June...but we did in fact have other races going on! I'll be honest, outside of the United States we have a knowledge gap when it comes to international races and the players in those races. We'll continue to stick with what we know...but when the opportunity presents itself to go international...we'll take it! Our guest for Episode 16 is the winner of the 2022 BC Epic 1000: Cory Ostertag. In this episode, Ezra and Cory have an in-depth conversation about Cory's cycling beginnings, balancing training and racing with having a family, the British Columbia bikepacking scene, Cory's first attempt at the BC Epic in 2021, and finally his 2022 victory!      

Jul 12, 202201:09:17
EP 15: Andy Leveto 15 Days & 5th Place at the 2022 Tour Divide

EP 15: Andy Leveto 15 Days & 5th Place at the 2022 Tour Divide

...and we are back! It's been a busy few weeks in the bikepack racing world, and we've got some catching up to do! We'll start where we left off...with the 2022 Tour Divide. Our guest this week is Andy Leveto. In 2018, Andy completed a northbound attempt of the Tour Divide in 23 days 2 hours and 9 minutes. In 2022 Andy was back for more! This time heading southbound with the grand depart. Ezra met Andy early in the race, and they proceeded to race each other to pit toilets for the first ~1500 miles. Ezra ultimately dropped out in Colorado with a tooth infection, whereas Andy went on to finish a whole week faster than his 2018 attempt in 15 days 20 hours and 25 minutes, finishing in 5th place. In this episode, Ezra and Andy deep-dive into Andy's Tour Divide experience as they discuss training programs, snow covered passes in Montana, headwinds in the Basin, sleep strategies, and much much more!

       


   

Jul 05, 202201:11:45
EP 14: The 2022 Tour Divide Preview Show

EP 14: The 2022 Tour Divide Preview Show

The time has come. The 2022 Tour Divide is upon us. Making it's long awaited return after having been canceled and modified the past two years, the 2022 Tour Divide is going to be one for the ages. It will also be host Ezra's first run at the Divide. In this episode, Ezra and Andrew sit down for an informal chat about all things Divide. Ezra runs through his bike, his thoughts on the course, a few insights into the heavy hitters, and his mindset as he sets off on his biggest race to date. 

With Ezra racing these next ~2 weeks, The Bikepack Racing Podcast will be going silent for a bit. We apologize...but racing bikes is always going to be our priority! LET'S GO!       



Jun 09, 202252:35
EP 13: Zeno Molteni Defeating DOOM

EP 13: Zeno Molteni Defeating DOOM

For our 13th episode (totally on purpose!), we return to Friday the 13th of May where our guest: Zeno Molteni went down to Oark, AR and absolutely destroyed DOOM. Andrew (Ezra was busy doing Divide prep things) sits down with Zeno for a conversation that covers Zeno's late entry into the sport of cycling, returning to his family's home to race the Italian Divide, a breakout performance at Gravel Worlds Long Voyage, and an in depth recap of Zeno crushing DOOM setting a new fastest known time in the process.
Jun 07, 202201:08:25
EP 12: Tim Tait on the State of Bikepack Racing

EP 12: Tim Tait on the State of Bikepack Racing

Road cycling has the Tour de France...bikepack racing has the Tour Divide...and the 2022 Grand Depart is nearly upon us! Episode 12 is part Tour Divide preview show and part general conversation about the state of bikepack racing. Our guest this episode is Tim Tait. A man of many talents in the bikepack racing world. Tim is the race director of The Mixed Utah Epic aswell as a brand new gravel event for this year: The West End Gravel Rush in Nucla, CO. Tim got his start in the ultra world in 2019 by finishing 4th in the Trans-AM and hasn't slowed down since. And just like Ezra, this will be Tim's rookie year on the divide. The conversation of this episode oscillates quite a bit, from Tour Divide prep to Tim's history in the sport to the current state of bikepack racing. But it's a damn good conversation, that you'll thoroughly enjoy if you love bikepack racing.
Jun 02, 202201:27:16
EP 11: Ezra and Andrew Recap Pinyons & Pines + DOOM

EP 11: Ezra and Andrew Recap Pinyons & Pines + DOOM

The title pretty much says it all! Ezra leads the episode off by giving his full recap of a rather unsuccessful and frustrating debut race of the 2022 season at Pinyons and Pines Bikepacking Race in Flagstaff, Arizona. And then at timestamp 1:10:00, we head east to Oark, Arkansas were Andrew breaks down everything that happened at DOOM from his perspective as the race organizer. A bit of Tour Divide prep talk is sprinkled throughout and there you've got it! Simple, but some very very detailed bikepack racing content.  

May 30, 202201:49:16
EP 10: Winning Ride Across Arizona with Dexter Kopas

EP 10: Winning Ride Across Arizona with Dexter Kopas

We are once again staying in Arizona for this one!...but rewinding the the clock back to the beginning of the month for a recap of Ride Across Arizona (RAAZ) with (Spoiler Alert!) the overall winner of the event: Dexter Kopas. Ezra (Andrew was busy riding/recovering from DOOM) and Dexter sit down and discuss the many facets of Dexter's life. Including, but not limited to: Dexter's decision to go to college in the frozen hellscape of Southern Wisconsin, fixing abandoned bikes found in barns, the challenges of balancing manual labor jobs and training, and ultimately what drew Dexter to bikepacking racing. We end the conversation with a recap of sorts of how Dexter went on to win RAAZ in his first attempt at bikepack racing.

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Quick apology for some audio issues at the end of the episode, but the Starbucks parking lot (my normal podcast WiFi) was full so I had to resort to altervernative/sub-par sources of free WiFi. I did the best I could to hid these issues without messing up the conversation too much. 

May 25, 202201:00:41
EP 9: The Rise of Lauren Brownlee

EP 9: The Rise of Lauren Brownlee

I'm incredibly biased...but Episode 9 is our best episode yet. For starters, it's our first in person episode! But mostly it's because our guest is a total badass person and bikepack racer. Lauren Brownlee took the bikepack racing world by storm last year, when she won The Great Divide Classic aka Tour Divide Mini in not just in her first bikepacking race, but her first time bikepacking ever! Ezra sits down with Lauren in the van to discuss Lauren's rapid ascent in the sport. We work our way through Lauren's first year racing (and winning everything) before we get to her most recent block of racing in Arizona with The Race Across Arizona and then Pinyons & Pines Bikepacking Race. At the very end of the episode we have a brief discussion about support and documentation in bikepack racing in relation to the most recent Arizona Trail FKT drama. I hope you enjoy this conversation as much as I enjoyed having it!          

May 19, 202202:06:43
EP 8: Ezra & Andrew Preview Doom + Pinyons & Pines

EP 8: Ezra & Andrew Preview Doom + Pinyons & Pines

 ...and we are back! Sorry for the lack of content folks. As you'll hear in this episode, Andrew and Ezra have been a bit busy these past few weeks. But it's time to go racing!...at least for Ezra. Ezra will be lining up for the Pinyons and Pines Bikepacking Race on Thursday morning in Flagstaff, AZ...and it's safe to say HE IS FIRED UP. Then on Friday the 13th (Yes - this was on purpose.) of May, Andrew will be hosting 25 brave souls for the inaugural Ozark Gravel Doom, simply known as DOOM. We've got some very exciting episodes in the works, but hopefully this short convo will tide you over for now. LET'S GO RACING!     

May 11, 202232:07
EP. 7: East Texas Showdown with Hannah Simon and Stephanie Hall

EP. 7: East Texas Showdown with Hannah Simon and Stephanie Hall

Episode 7 is our first true zoom/bikepacking/podcast party. In this episode, Ezra and Andrew are joined by two badass bikepack racing women: Hannah Simon and Stephanie Hall. We start with a bit of background information, including Hannah's extremely unique introduction into cycling, before diving into Hannah and Stephanie's experience at the 2022 East Texas Showdown. Between mid-race Whataburger stops, leaving an exhausted friend in a post office, and the infamous "death loop" there is a whole to cover in this one! 

Apr 27, 202201:32:37
EP. 6: Andrew & Ezra On...

EP. 6: Andrew & Ezra On...

Episode 6 is the first of what will most likely become a staple of this podcast. Yes...we'd love to have a new and different bikepacking GOAT on every episode, but that's just never going to happen. Sometimes you're just going to be stuck with Andrew and Ezra as they discuss a wide variety of bikepack racing topics! On this episode topics include: Ezra's "new"/"repossessed" mountain bike, Andrew's recon mission on the Ouachita Triple Crown for the Arkansas High Country Race, thoughts on Episode 5 with Jay Petervary, a fundraising project announcement from Ezra, and many more bikepack racing tidbits!

More information on Ezra's fundraising project for diabetes care at his communities local free clinic can be found here: https://tinyurl.is/OpenArmsClinic

Apr 19, 202201:12:43
EP 5: "Solo Self-Supported" with Jay Petervary

EP 5: "Solo Self-Supported" with Jay Petervary

Did The Bikepack Racing Podcast just peak on only its fifth episode? It certainly looks that way! In the world of bikepacking, Jay Petervary doesn't need an introduction...but I'm going to give a short one anyway. Legendary bikepacking racer, advocate of the sport, and race organizer, "Jay P" is one of the greatest to ever do it. He's won more races and set more FKTs than I have time to detail here. But to be honest, this episode really isn't about Jay's incredible career. This episode is a fascinating discussion between Andrew and Jay about the current state of bikepacking and how the sport has evolved over the years. The episode starts with a short introduction with Ezra and Andrew about how this conversation came to happen, and then we are treated to a deep dive into the mind of Jay on all things bikepack racing. Enjoy! 



Apr 15, 202249:32
EP 4: Stagecoach 400 with David Greif

EP 4: Stagecoach 400 with David Greif

In episode 4, Ezra (Andrew was busy riding his bike) talks with elite level road cyclist and Stagecoach 400 participant: David Greif. The conversation begins with how David got into cycling, his rise through the collegiate ranks at the University of Arizona, and his current life racing for Project Echelon Racing. Which is one of the best domestic road cycling teams in the US, as well as a fantastic non-profit organization which helps veterans find community and healing through exercise and competition. The conversation eventually turns to bikepacking as we discuss David's hilarious first foray into the discipline, before coming to the main focus of the show: The Stagecoach 400. Starting and finishing in Idyllwild California, the Stagecoach 400 is one of the most well-known bikepacking routes in the world. Since 2012, a grand depart of the route has taken place in late March/early April. 

***I apologize for the audio quality of this episode. David was on a busy street corner at the Sea Otter Classic. It couldn't be helped, and I'm only so good at Audition. 

Apr 12, 202259:02
EP 3: Meet the Hosts Part 2 - Andrew Onermaa

EP 3: Meet the Hosts Part 2 - Andrew Onermaa

The tables have turned for Part 2 of "Meet the Hosts" as Ezra grills Andrew with the hard hitting questions the people want to know. Topics of discussion include, but not limited to: an early love of basketball, years spent soul searching in the mountains out west and in Alaska, how Andrew went from riding less than 1000 miles a year to over 12,000, thoughts and feelings about his epic battle with Ted King at the Arkansas High Country Race in 2020, and so much more.     


Apr 06, 202201:26:30
EP 2: Meet the Hosts Part 1 - Ezra Ward-Packard

EP 2: Meet the Hosts Part 1 - Ezra Ward-Packard

In Part 1 of "Meet the Hosts", Andrew is asking the questions as Ezra tries to string together some coherent answers. The topics range from living and dating in a van, potentially being the highest paid Cat 3 "semi" professional cyclist ever, the transition from road racing to gravel and bikepack racing, and Ezra's ambitions for the Tour Divide.
Apr 06, 202201:43:33
EP 1: This is The Bikepack Racing Podcast

EP 1: This is The Bikepack Racing Podcast

Welcome to the Bikepack Racing Podcast! 

In this first episode, Ezra Ward-Packard and Andrew Onermaa sit down for a brief conversation about what this podcast is actually going to be about. It's short and it's a bit clunky at times, but it does what it needs to do. Just like in bikepack racing...sometimes the hardest part is getting started!

Apr 04, 202221:22