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018 How Does the Pastor Make Disciples? (With Trip Kimball)

An episode of Strength for Today's Pastor

By Bill Holdridge
Practical Encouragement and Help for Senior or Lead Pastors
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Practical Encouragement and Help for Senior or Lead Pastors

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043 (Almost Totally) Crashed, Burned, and Supernaturally Revived- with Pastor Brian Ewing of Calvary Chapel Juneau AK
A hard-to-hear-to beginning, as Pastor Brian shares authentically about the hard times of his ministry. Doesn't get much more real than this. Then came the wonderful working of God. Listen in as Brian tells their story. Spoiler alert: lots of 'quotables' in this podcast. Enjoy. Super encouraging for today's pastor.
December 10, 2019
042 The Circles or Impact of Revival- with Pastor David Guzik
Well known Bible teacher and commentator David Guzik again shares with us about revival. What does revival look like? What happens when revival comes? What is revival's impact? Obviously, those who know and understand the times in which we live also know and understand the need for revival in the church and spiritual awakening in our world.  David's website is  Send your feedback, comments, and questions to
December 3, 2019
041 Revival- What Is It, Can It Happen Again- with Pastor David Guzik
Pastor David Guzik is a student, as well as a pastor-teacher. As a student, he has done extensive study on the subject of revival. In this podcast episode, hear David speak about what revival is and is not, as well as the possibility of a revival happening once again in our communities, our states, our country, or in our world. For David's website, go to:
November 26, 2019
040 How Can the Senior Pastor Work with His Worship Leader- with Pastor Holland Davis
Let's face it ... in almost every church, about 1/3 of the worship portion of the service is devoted to singing to and about God. And another significant portion is devoted to teaching/preaching. Doesn't it make sense we pastors should pursue a great, unified relationship with our worship leader(s) and team(s)? Yet many of us are bewildered concerning how to get that done. Holland Davis has been leading worship since he was 16 years old. And he has served as the worship leader for pastors of a couple of the largest churches in America. He is currently a senior pastor himself—of Calvary Chapel in San Clemente, CA.  Therefore, Holland is uniquely fitted to help every pastor know how to serve, lead, and enable his worship leaders be the best Jesus has made them to be. Show host Bill Holdridge speaks with Holland in this podcast episode #40 of Strength for Today's Pastor.
November 19, 2019
039 What Is the Heart of Worship? (with Pastor Holland Davis)
Holland Davis has a lot to say about the worship of God. His approach has the fragrance of Christ all over it. Senior pastors can learn from worship leaders, to be sure. But it may be even more helpful if a senior pastor hears from a man who is both an anointed worship leader and a senior pastor.  He can cover both sides of the same coin in terms of understanding worship in the church. Holland is the senior pastor of Calvary Chapel San Clemente, CA. He is also the writer of the worship song "Let It Rise," along with the book by the same title.  Join show host Bill Holdridge as Holland helps us explore the heart of worship. 
November 12, 2019
038 How to Answer the Evil that Happens to People- with Pastor Jay McCarl
Pastor Jay McCarl is a longtime senior pastor. He also recently retired from a 30 year ministry as a Law Enforcement Chaplain. Jay has seen it all, and shares with us super effective, Jesus-like ways to provide real help to people in great need due to tragedy or loss. The wisdom Jay possesses is God-given, and comes right from God's Word, empowered and applied by God's Spirit. Jay is also the author of an amazing book on the subject: Answering Evil: Crisis, Compassion and Truth in an Age of Uncertainty. At the end of the podcast, Jay shares how to get a copy.  These are tools every pastor can use.
November 5, 2019
037 Getting Into the Flow of the Spirit in Pastoral Ministry- with Pastor Marc Knutson
Ministry may not have to be as hard as we pastors make it sometimes.  Marc Knutson shares with us some of what he has learned over the years, and what he learned from Pastor Chuck Smith up close and personal, about flowing with the Holy Spirit in the ministry. The Holy Spirit has a mind and will—and His mind and will are in complete cooperation with that of the Father and the Son.  Host Bill Holdridge joins Marc in this encouraging conversation.
October 29, 2019
036 Five Things to Say to Pastors Who Are Thinking of Transitioning Out of Their Church- with Show Host Bill Holdridge
Pastoral transition is real, and unless Jesus Christ returns for His church before a specific pastor dies, someone else will be the pastor of his church! In this podcast, Poimen Ministries Director Bill Holdridge provides fodder for thought for the senior/lead pastor who is considering whether or not to  move on to something else. Is the senior pastor certain that it's his time to leave? Does he feel called to be an essential part of the selection of his successor? Will the next pastor come from within the church, or from without? What are the vital parts of any successful transition? These subjects are all discussed in this podcast.  Poimen Ministries invites any senior/lead pastor with questions on pastoral transition to reach out to them at
October 22, 2019
035 Are We Charismatic Enough? (With Pastor Paul Berry)
The early church, aka the apostolic church, was wholly dependent upon the Holy Spirit. As was the case in Corinth, the spiritual gifts were regularly manifested. Signs and wonders accompanied the preaching of the gospel. Divine healing happened. Believers were being baptized by the Holy Spirit, in fulfillment of the Promise of the Father. Paul Berry is the senior pastor of Calvary Chapel Santa Marian, CA. His church is a charismatic church, in the Biblical way of understanding what that means.  This podcast will be an encouragement for pastors to move beyond fears and apprehension about the work of the Holy Spirit, and into the fullness of life promised by Jesus to those who believe in Him.
October 15, 2019
034 The Greatest Summer of My Life- the Effect of My Sabbatical Upon My Ministry to My Family with Pastor Nate Holdridge
Time away ... distance ... can often bring new perspective.  Pastor Nate Holdridge of Calvary Monterey gained new wisdom and insight into the way he is to minister to his family, and he gained this perspective while on sabbatical. This podcast isn't a spanking, it's an encouragement. It's wisdom for the pastor who loves his family. 
October 8, 2019
033 The Greatest Summer of My Life- The Effect of My Sabbatical Upon the Ministry Back Home (with Pastor Nate Holdridge)
Strength for Today's Host Bill Holdridge interviews his son Nate, the senior pastor of Calvary Monterey on the Monterey Peninsula in California.  Nate was able to take a two month sabbatical after 20 years of ministry in the church, and he shares some of what he learned and observed from his time away with his family.  This will bless and encourage the senior pastor to make room for sabbath, and some of the valid and important reasons to do it.
October 1, 2019
032 The Life and Legacy of Lonnie Frisbee- with Danny Lehmann of YWAM
Lonnie Frisbee was an important part of the Jesus movement of the late 60s and early 70s. His ministry was characterized by unusual spiritual power, amazing boldness, and strong evangelistic fruit.  YWAM and Calvary Chapel leader Danny Lehmann knew Lonnie well. In this podcast, we will hear from Danny about some of the takeaways from Lonnie's life. 
September 24, 2019
031 Pastor ... Share the Good News- with Danny Lehmann of YWAM & Calvary Chapel
Danny Lehmann is a major leader in Youth With A Mission (YWAM), an author, an elder of Calvary Chapel Honolulu, and an evangelist. Danny is eminently qualified by the Lord to encourage and help pastors in their task of doing the work of an evangelist, which he does in this podcast interview with Poimen Ministries Director Bill Holdridge. Danny has been walking with the Lord for 45 years, and is as relevant as ever. 
September 17, 2019
030 Sustainable Ministry- Equipping Leaders Who Equip Other Leaders (with Pastor Jim Larson of ICM)
Jim and Janice Larson serve the Lord in Tanzania, East Africa. Their ministry there is an amazing model of developing sustainable leaders and ministry. The lessons learned are transferable to any culture.  Learn from Pastor Jim as he discusses vision and how it affects actual ministry.  Hear about bold, forward thinking radical discipleship as it pertains to raising up leaders. You will be encouraged and challenged. 
September 10, 2019
029 Vision For and the Practicality of Producing Leaders- Pastor Bruce Zachary
Bruce Zachary is the founding pastor of Calvary Nexus in Camarillo, CA.  Along with the oversight and shepherding of that flock of believers, Bruce has been very active in leadership development all over the world.  He co-directs the Calvary Church Planting Network with Pastor Miles DeBenedictis, which helps prospective church planters with training and other aspects of church planting. He also oversees the Velo Church Leadership team that comes alongside of churches and leaders to further equip and strengthen their leadership and service for God's Kingdom. He is also the author of 16 books, as well as two training manuals (which are also in Spanish).  Bruce breathes leadership, and oozes leadership. He is a leader's leader as well as a man eager to learn and grow. In this podcast, Bruce will lay out the basics of a church leadership development plan, and will overview the many great resources available through Calvary Nexus, CCPN, and Velo. If you want to grow in leadership, this podcast will help you. 
September 3, 2019
028 A Successful Pastoral Transition, and Beyond- Pastor Bill Walden
Stepping aside from a senior pastor role can be a fearful and uncertain venture. Who will lead this church moving forward? How will the congregation adjust to a new pastor? What will I do after the transition is complete? Pastor Bill Walden of Cornerstone Ministries of Napa, CA (now called Calvary Chapel Napa),  led his elders and church through a five year process that is going very well on both ends.  Bill and his leaders read a lot, prayed a lot, talked a lot, and planned a lot. And the end result is working. If you're considering transitioning your church in the future, this will encourage you.  Remember: unless you are still the senior pastor when Jesus returns, someone else will be the senior pastor of your church!
August 27, 2019
027 Maintaining Unity Among Church Leadership- Paul LeBoutillier
Divided leadership leads to a compromised and ineffective church. All pastors know this to be true. So how can we surround ourselves with men who aren't "yes men," who can weigh in solidly in the decision making processes of church leadership, and at the same time have men that are loyal and unified with one another. Pastor Paul LeBoutillier believes that we don't need 100% agreement on everything, but that it's essential to be in 100% unity with each other. Paul is the longtime senior pastor of Calvary Chapel in Ontario, Oregon. He brings almost 30 years of experience into this great discussion.
August 20, 2019
026 Missionary Care Is More Than Money- with Neal Pirolo of Emmaus Road International
Neal Pirolo is a missionary and kingdom builder. His excellent book Serving As Senders Today has been used by countless churches and missionaries as a primary text concerning the "how to" of sending and being a missionary ... from recruitment to return from the field. His followup work The Reentry Team: Caring For Your Returning Missionaries is also a vital work which will help ensure a successful return for missionaries to their country of origin. This podcast explains how caring for missionaries is not only financial. As referred to in the epistle to the Philippians, there are at least six ways to care for missionaries.  Learn how your church can do a great job sending and maintaining a fruitful, kingdom relationship with those you send out or support into another culture.
August 13, 2019
025 Do the Work of an Evangelist- with Pastor David Johnston
Paul exhorted Timothy to "be watchful in all things, endure afflictions, do the work of an evangelist, fulfill your ministry" (2 Timothy 4:5).  Yet for the busy pastor, this is often a very challenging and perhaps lacking area in his life and ministry.  In this episode, Pastor David Johnston strengthens us by giving very practical and strong ways to fulfill this part of our calling.  David is a bi-vocational senior pastor who serves in Calabasas, California. He is a pastor-teacher, but also gifted as an evangelist. As an evangelist, he is uniquely positioned to equip his fellow pastors to follow Paul's admonition to his young protege.  Spoiler alert: this will bless you.
August 6, 2019
024 Reaching Men- with Pastor Cliff Stabler
A mentor of Poimen Ministries' Director Bill Holdridge, Cliff Stabler's legacy is that he is a discipler of men.  Former senior/lead pastor, former missionary, and former church consultant, Cliff has a wealth of wisdom and experience from the Holy Spirit's work in his life over his 79+ years.  Cliff shares in this podcast episode some of the things he has practiced and learned in his ministry to men—transferable concepts for any senior/lead pastor.
July 30, 2019
023 What About Pastoral Counseling? (With Pastor Paul LeBoutillier)
Pastor, is counseling a burden or a blessing to you? How is your 1:1 ministry oriented? What's your end game? Paul LeBoutillier speaks with program host Bill Holdridge about counseling, and the way the Lord has taught him to approach it in his church of almost 30 years. It promises to be both liberating and encouraging to any pastor.
July 23, 2019
022 Keeping It Real- with Pastor Ed Taylor
Pastor Ed Taylor is an open book in private as well as in public. His transparency and sincerity are evident in this podcast episode, in which Ed provides abundant encouragement with regard to dealing with extreme loss, the pastor's calling, the pastor's own self-assessment and identity (spoiler alert: the pastor is not to be deemed successful on the basis of the size of your church!), and thinking and living within the good things that God has done and is doing. Ed is the pastor of Calvary Chapel Aurora, Colorado, a solid, growing and relevant congregation near Denver. He and the church have completed 20 years as a fellowship, and during those years Ed has learned, and is learning valuable and transferable lessons in life and ministry. Ed's keeping it real...
July 16, 2019
020 Pastor: Why You Should Wash the Feet of Your Fellow Pastors- Tim Brown
Pastors are often isolated and feel alone. It's difficult to find others that can relate to the unique challenges of the ministry.  Not too surprisingly, pastors report that they often suffer from discouragement, and even depression.  Can isolation and feelings of being alone contribute to discouragement and/or depression? In this episode, Pastor Tim Brown of Calvary Chapel Fremont, CA discusses the great need for us senior pastors to reach out to our peers in ministry, and to wash each other's feet. Spoiler alert: this will encourage and strengthen you. 
July 9, 2019
021 The Need and "How To" of Making Biblical Elders- with Pastor Paul Berry
Paul Berry assumed the senior pastor role at Calvary Chapel Santa Maria, CA in 1992. When he started, there were 50-60 people, but a very skeleton leadership team. In the very first months of his pastorate, Paul dug in and began raising up men who would serve the Lord, His church, and their families in the way Christ called them to. In this podcast, Paul will share with host Bill Holdridge and all of us what they did, how they did it, and why they did it.  He argues that men need to be given responsibility and authority, and the opportunity to truly lead and minister within the church and community.  This is a must listen for those wanting encouragement and help in the area of developing Biblical leadership in the church.
July 2, 2019
019 The Greatest Challenge in Pastoral Ministry- Tim Brown
Tim Brown has been in pastoral ministry since 1973, and a senior pastor since 1985. He is widely regarded as a very wise man, full of sage advice and interesting insights on matters of theology and church life. In episode 019, Tim shares his thoughts on the subject of the pastoral ministry's greatest challenge. His conclusions may surprise you. But they most definitely will challenge and encourage any senior pastor, or anyone in ministry for that matter. Tim argues that the greatest challenge in ministry is not the need to be pure, but rather the need to remain ____________. Tune in and see if you agree.
June 24, 2019
018 How Does the Pastor Make Disciples? (With Trip Kimball)
Join host Bill Holdridge and Pastor Trip Kimball as they discuss some of the how-to's of disciple making, especially within the ministry of the senior/lead pastor. Questions like, who should we look for? or what is the goal of disciple making? or how did Jesus do it? are part of the discussion. This episode can be helpful to restart or jump-start an existing discipleship emphasis with our churches.
June 19, 2019
017 The Pastor As Disciple Maker (With Trip Kimball)
Every senior/lead pastor knows about the Great Commission and its importance in fulfilling God's vision for the church. But what does that look like in the life and ministry of the busy pastor? Pastor Trip Kimball has a long history of pouring into people that they might follow Christ well. In this podcast, program host Bill Holdridge will interview Pastor Trip to help us all discover how we can grow as disciplers.
June 18, 2019
016 What Does the Coaching Process Look Like? (With Terry McNabb)
When we (Poimen Ministries) enter into a coaching relationship with a senior/lead pastor, the purpose is to help the pastor discover many of the things he already knows. And then to help him discover how to move forward in his calling and vision. In this podcast, host Bill Holdridge interviews Pastor Terry McNabb. Terry underwent a coaching process during the course of his own pastoral ministry, and it was not only life and ministry changing, but has also become the foundation of his coaching approach to pastors in this current stage of his ministry. Five areas of focus are worked through in a coaching relationship: Calling, Vision, Mission, Organization, and Communication. These five areas of focus will be explained by Pastor Terry in this very helpful episode of Strength for Today's Pastor.
June 12, 2019
015 Could You Use a Pastoral Coach? (With Terry McNabb)
Pastoral coaching has been a relatively new development in the past several years. Pastors, hungry to to their best and eager to find their ministry sweet spot, are more open than ever to have a seasoned 'coach' who can help them rediscover their passion, clarify their vision, and regain some of their strength. It's even better when the coach is a seasoned pastor himself. In this podcast, program host Bill Holdridge interviews Pastor Terry McNabb. Terry introduces us to the process of pastoral coaching ... what it is, why it's a healthy thing to do, and what to expect.  Terry is a longtime and seasoned senior pastor who experienced a coaching relationship while in his former church. It was tremendously helpful to him, and set him on a course that greatly enhanced himself and his ministry.
June 11, 2019
014 So You're Thinking About Going On Sabbatical? (With John Cowan- Part Two)
You've heard about this idea, and you've been thinking about it. There are roadblocks to consider, and you're reviewing some of them in your own mind. Yet just the hope of an extended restorative time away charges your batteries. How can the obstacles to actually doing this be overcome?  What about your church's leadership, how will they ever get on board? Why not just take an extra week of vacation? In this podcast, Pastor John Cowan of Poimen Ministries responds to these questions with Program Host Bill Holdridge. May the Lord bless you as you live in, and enter into His rest!
June 5, 2019
013 Is It Time for the Pastor to Take a Sabbatical? (With John Cowan- Part One)
Many pastors do not consider the idea of taking an extended time away from their normal pastoral duties, to be renewed and strengthened personally and in ministry.  Yet at the same time we hear about how many pastors are leaving the ministry these days ... many of which admit to experiencing burnout, lack of vision, or a weakened spiritual life. Maybe you, pastor, may be in need of a sabbatical. In this program, Host Bill Holdridge speaks with longtime pastor John Cowan about what a sabbatical is, and why it's important to consider.  John calls a sabbatical a time of "refueling." If you've been in your church for ten years or more, you may indeed be a candidate for a sabbatical. Perhaps this podcast can help you determine that.
June 4, 2019
012 Dan Finfrock on Inductive Bible Study Based Preaching
Dan Finfock of Intensive Care Ministries ( is a world traveling (53 countries) fanatic concerning the IBS method of Observation, Interpretation, and Application. For 43 years Dan has trained pastors and Christian leaders, as well as members of many church congregations in the U.S. and abroad.  IBS is the most Biblical way of studying the Bible ... and should be the Biblical foundation of all Bible teaching and preaching.  This episode will encourage those who are using the inductive method of Bible study already, will inspire those who aren't to learn Dan's simple methodology, and will try to convince today's pastor to reach for the commentaries only after having worked with the  text directly thoroughly. Connections to Intensive Care Ministries for training and materials are in the podcast.
May 30, 2019
011 The Pastor's Legacy- How He Can Care For His Family and Widow (With Gillett Doggett)
Poimen Ministries Director (and program host) Bill Holdridge interviews Pastor Gillett Doggett on the subjects of the senior pastor's retirement, care for his widow should the pastor go home to be with the Lord, and adequately preparing for a church transition when and if it gets to be that time. This program will be helpful for church boards of directors, elder boards, deacon boards, and finance and budget committees. The senior/lead pastor may consider making this show available to his leadership team(s). Gillett Doggett has served the Lord for many years, and is like a modern day Caleb. This octogenarian has a great passion for the care of pastoral widows, and for the pastor and his family.  
May 29, 2019
010 Identifying Future Leaders (With Bob Claycamp- Part Two)
Sometimes it's surprising ... if not always surprising ... to see who God wants to use. Identifying those whom God has called, and brought into our churches, is a very, very large part of the fruit that comes out of any ministry. So why don't pastors spend more time developing leaders? Are there ways to overcome our negligence, or apprehensions, or inexperience? Host Bill Holdridge will talk with Pastor Bob Claycamp on this all important topic in this podcast.  Learned from a seasoned pastor who is known by many as a developer of leaders who lead others.
May 23, 2019
009 Identifying Future Leaders (With Bob Claycamp- Part One)
Literally nothing that lasts happens without leadership—good leadership—by men and women who are both biblical and Spirit led. Organizations and churches depend upon it. Yet sadly, there oftentimes seems to be a dearth of willing leaders within our churches ... at least not as many as there should be. Pastor Bob Claycamp is a seasoned pastor (40+ years) who is also a pastor of pastors.  Bob has made it part of his life's mission to develop leaders.  Join host Bill Holdridge and Pastor Bob as they dive into this all important topic. Be encouraged as Bob shares some of the major lessons he's learned over the years, and be refreshed in your calling to develop leaders within your own church.
May 16, 2019
007 Do You Need a Church Assessment? (With Phil Evans- Part One)
A fresh set of eyes. Face it, we get used to our surroundings—and as pastors, we can become unaware of things we would have noticed X number of years ago.  We can sometimes use a fresh set of eyes. In this podcast, Poimen Ministries Director Bill Holdridge will talk with Pastor Phil Evans. Phil is excellent at doing church assessments, and has helped many senior pastors with a better and more clear look at their ministries. In part one, we will discuss what a church assessment is, and what it is not.  Spoiler alert: it's a very encouraging and strengthening process. Proverbs 1:5 provides a scriptural reason for having an assessment done.     A wise man will hear and increase learning, and a man of understanding will attain wise counsel...
May 15, 2019
008 Do You Need a Church Assessment? (With Phil Evans- Part Two)
Again, Bill Holdridge picks the brain of Pastor Phil Evans on the subject of church assessments.  Phil came out of a business background and into the pastorate about 40 years ago, and uses the organizational mind that God has given him, a great sense of humor, and a calm spirit to help many pastors. He's become sort of an assessment guru with Poimen Ministries.  Give a listen to this podcast if you're interested in having a fresh set of eyes, a non-threatening and encouraging set of eyes, a confidential set of eyes—upon you and/or your ministry.  This show highlights some of what was talked about in Part one of this series, and then goes into a bit more detail on what it looks like to have an assessment done at your church. Thanks for listening.
May 15, 2019
006 What We Can Do to Reconnect Young People to the Church? (With Bryan Newberry)
Host Bill Holdridge interviews Pastor Bryan Newberry, a senior pastor for 32+ years. Bryan is passionate about connecting with the next generation, and exudes proper confidence in the Lord that it's doable.  Many pastors are asking, "why are the young people leaving?" And most of the time, we pastors are unclear about what to do about it! But the next gen WANTS to be reached, and Bryan provides Biblical, practical, Jesus centered, and easy to implement practices that will encourage any pastor to go for it.  Part two of this two part series focuses on some of the 'must do' practices for the church that wants to fulfill the Great Commission as it reaches the younger people. Bryan's suggestions, if applied, have the potential to radically change the dynamic of any church. 
May 8, 2019
005 David Guzik and Jeff Jones Talk About Warren Wiersbe (5/16/29-5/2/2019)
Warren Wiersbe served the Lord Jesus well ... and his impact upon the body of Christ, and upon pastor-teachers, is incalculable. Join host Bill Holdridge as he is joined by Pastors David Guzik ( and Jeff Jones as they share about the legacy of this faithful steward of God's Word.  Though Warren Wiersbe is in heaven, his writings and his life still speak.
May 7, 2019
004 How Can We Connect the Young People Back to the Church? (With Bryan Newberry)
Host Bill Holdridge interviews Pastor Bryan Newberry, a senior pastor for 32+ years. Bryan is passionate about connecting with the next generation, and exudes proper confidence in the Lord that it's doable.  Many pastors are asking, "why are the young people leaving?" And most of the time, we pastors are unclear about what to do about it! But the next gen WANTS to be reached, and Bryan provides Biblical, practical, Jesus centered, and easy to implement practices that will encourage any pastor to go for it.  Part one of this two part series focuses on the mindset of today's youth, and how our churches can adjust to that mindset. The message and foundation remains the same as we reach out to young people, but the approach and methods can and must adjust. 
May 6, 2019
003 Excellence in Ministry: The Pastor's Relationships with the People (With Al James)
How can the senior or lead pastor connect with the people in his church? How should he conduct himself, and what are some great ways to reach the people that are attending the church? Of course, this is vital if the Great Commission will be fulfilled. Bill Holdridge, host of Strength for Today's Pastor, interviews Pastor Al James in this very important session on the role of the senior/lead pastor.
May 2, 2019
002 Excellence in Ministry: The Sunday Morning Experience (With Al James)
A fresh set of eyes. That's what we often need as we try to evaluate what we pastors do, week in and week out.   What does the visitor to your church see when he or she attends? What areas are typical of areas that can be tweaked to make it even better? How can the church service itself better serve the people to help them become equipped for ministry and better disciples? Host Bill Holdridge once again interviews Pastor Al James, founding pastor of Calvary Chapel Prescott, AZ.  Tune in to begin seeing your church through a fresh set of eyes.
May 2, 2019
001 Excellence in Ministry: Fellowship with God (With Al James)
Foundational to all true pastoral ministry is the pastor's communion and union with God. Jesus pastored this way as the Good Shepherd (Pastor), and so should the senior or lead pastor of the church.  Discover new inspiration for your ministry in this episode. Very practical and timely. Guest Pastor: Al James
April 21, 2019
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