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The Black Business Psychology Podcast

The Black Business Psychology Podcast

By Grace Mansah-Owusu, PhD
A UK based podcast for any one who wants to hear about the career journey's of black psychologists who have followed varied routes after qualifications in psychology. The podcast will also showcase careers and stories about applying psychology to a variety of different settings from people from Asian and underrepresented groups. It also offers analysis of social issues including, race, ethnicity, gender and class.
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The Black Business Psychology Podcast

Episode 33: Business Psychologist
This week's episode is the last episode of the year and features co-founder of consultancy Pearn Kandola, Professor Binna Kandola, OBE. Professor Kandola speaks about his career as an undergraduate student at the University of Cardiff and then completing a PhD. He then worked at the consultancy SHL before he left to begin his own practice with his co-founder Dr Michael Pearn, at Pearn Kandola. You can find out more about Pearn Kandola and the work that they do here. 
December 23, 2021
Episode 32: Chartered Occupational Psychologist
On today's episode we have Dr Christeen George. Christeen has a long career in psychology and after initially wanting to pursue clinical psychology and her application being sent to the wrong university, she embarked on a fruitful and extremely interesting career in occupational psychology. She has worked in public sector organisations and universities as well as private consultancy during her career, including the University of Hertfordshire and the University of West London.
November 18, 2021
Episode 31: Careers with Psychology: Multidisciplinary Pathway Worker
In today's episode we have guest, Shyaam Bundy. Shy is a multidisciplinary pathway worker in Essex, UK working in neurodevelopmental & mood and anxiety pathway in an integrated Emotional Well-being & Mental Health Service.  Along with having an undergraduate degree in psychology, Shy is also trained as a Therapeutic Play Worker at the Institute for Arts in Therapy and Education in London. He is also one-half of an organisation called Young Black Psych along with co-founder, Lauren Fernandes. Together, this organisation develops tools and resources to help children, young people and adults to understand and look after their mental health.  Along with basically working two jobs, Shy is doing his preclinical training to become a child and adolescent psychotherapist. 
November 04, 2021
Episode 30: Careers in Psychology: Industrial and Organizational Psychology
Dr Ruwayne Kock is an Industrial and Organizational Psychologist based in Johannesburg, South Africa. He completed his PhD at the University of Johannesburg and runs a consultancy called Authentic Organisations. It was founded to help marginalized professionals such as racial-ethnic groups, young people, women, LGBTI+ and people with disabilities to be the best they can be in the workplace. Dr Kock also serves on the Management and Executive Committee of the Society of Industrial and Organisational Psychology of South Africa (SIOPSA), leading Transformation. He has a career spanning over 25 years and completed his training in organisational psychology just as democracy was beginning and at the end of apartheid. 
October 14, 2021
Episode 29: Trainee Clinical Psychologist. Part 2
This episode is our second and last episode featuring Elliot Miller, trainee clinical psychologist studying at the University of East London. Hear more about Elliot's journey to clinical psychology here. 
September 23, 2021
Episode 28: Trainee Clinical Psychologist. Part 1
Today's episode features incoming clinical psychologist, Elliot miller who will be starting his training at the University of East London in the next few weeks. Elliot wanted to be a vet as a youngster and as soon as he was exposed to psychology during his A-levels. Elliot worked as a support worker,  psychological assistant,  and more recently a psychological wellbeing practitioner.  Elliot speaks about his experience applying to the clinical psychology doctorate. As it's currently application season for the clinical psychology doctorate in the Uk so you may find this episode and next week's episode useful if you are applying. This is the first part of our discussion. Part 2 will be out on Thursday 23rd September. 
September 16, 2021
Episode 27: Careers with Psychology: Author
This weeks podcast episode brings someone who has studied an undergraduate degree in psychology, then went on to pursue a qualification in psychotherapy and counselling, alongside managing projects in the third sector. Maame Blue is now an author having published her debut book in 2020, called Bad love. The episode focuses on Maame's unique journey and how she uses psychological knowledge in her writing. You can purchase a copy of her book here. It is a fantastic read about first love. 
September 02, 2021
Episode 26: Careers in Psychology, Counselling Psychology
This episode features Dr Rima Lamba, Counselling Psychologist and founder of private practice Blue River Psychology. Dr Lamba's work focuses on working therapeutically with women and couples from ethnically minoritised groups, especially women from South Asian backgrounds. She also specialises in transgenerational trauma, feminism, the patriarchy and issues of race, equality and inclusion. In this episode, we speak about her route to counselling psychology and how she got to where she is today.  You can connect with her on her Instagram page using this link.
August 19, 2021
Episode 25: Careers with Psychology: Speech & Language Therapy
Rebecca Francis is a qualified Speech and Language Therapist who currently works for a third sector organisation. She specialises in working with children and young people. Her background she studied psychology studied for undergrad and completed a thin sandwich 4 year degree allowing her to have a few placements. She then went on to secure an assistant speech and language therapist role and then went on to complete her Masters degree in the topic. There are many overlaps between the work that psychologists do and what is studied and practiced by speech and language therapists. If you are interested in the area of speech and language therapy please have a look at this link for further information.
August 05, 2021
Episode 24: Clinical Psychology Associate
This week we have a guest, Yannick Yalipende. Yannick is currently training as a Clinical Associate Psychologist in the NHS and completing an MSc in Applied Neuropsychology from the University of Bristol. Yannick is also the Founding Director of Black People Talk (BPT); an organisation that supports the mental health of the UK’s Black community through psychoeducational and therapeutic peer support groups. Following his current role, Yannick hopes to qualify as a Clinical Neuropsychologist, to provide much-needed representation in the sector and continue challenging inequalities within mental health care. Yannick and I met when we volunteered at the BiPP Network together.  You can find Yannick on Twitter, you can find out more about Black People Talk here. You can also find out more about the BiPP Network here, an organisation formed to broaden access to careers in psychology. 
April 26, 2021
Episode 23: Careers in Psychology: Clinical Psychology
In today's episode we bring special guest, Dr Luke Brown who is a Clinical Psychologist with two doctoral degrees! Luke became interested in studying psychology at a young age and he completed his undergraduate degree in Psychology and Criminology at Keele University and then went on to complete an MRes at the University of Birmingham focussing on research around clinical psychology. He then became a research assistant on a research study called the ENRICH, and also completed his PhD during this project. He researched help-seeking behaviours during the first episode of psychosis in young black people in the West Midlands area. After completing his PhD, Luke applied to study the clinical psychology doctorate at the University of Birmingham. This is a really interesting episode so please feel free to listen and share. 
April 19, 2021
Episode 22: Careers in Psychology: Educational Psychology
This week's guest is Dr Ken Greaves. He is a specialist senior educational psychologist with over 20 years of experience working with children and adults in local authorities in East London. Dr Greaves has also worked and consulted for the Lorna Wing Centres, which were established to diagnose and provide support for those who are on the autistic spectrum. He now works privately and consults with workplaces, higher education, social and healthcare and works with children and adults with dyslexia, dyspraxia,  learning differences and difficulties and those who have autistic spectrum disorders. Dr Greaves has a fascinating and very established career which by listening to this episode you will learn a lot from. You can learn more about Dr Greaves on his website.
April 12, 2021
Episode 21: Mental Health Social Work & Entrepreneurship
This is one of my most exciting episodes (I say this about every episode!) with two very accomplished mental health social workers, Laurie Johnson-Mathison and Jan-Michael McIntosh. Laurie completed his undergraduate degree in psychology and wanted to continue to study to become a clinical psychologist; however, when working in practical mental health settings he then became more interested in the practical part of direct client work. He then went ahead to pursue a career in mental health social work with the fast track programme called Think Ahead - which is mental health social work scheme.  Jan completed his first degree in history and then after some years of practical work experience, he completed an intense psychology conversion course before embarking on the Think Ahead programme to become a mental health social worker. This is where Laurie and Jan met. They also run a successful social enterprise called the Knack Box with their co- founder Elly who also trained as a mental health social worker. The Knack Box is a monthly craft subscription box and you can check it out here. 
March 29, 2021
Episode 20: Careers with Psychology: Senior Programmes Manager
This is our 20th episode! Thank you all for your support. This episode we introduce Milimo Ninvalle, who is a senior programmes manager at a charity. She manages implements and oversees programmes all over the world to increase international development. The areas her projects focus on include education, sustainability and emergency provisions. Milimo is completed an undergraduate in psychology but decided to follow her passion and completed an MSc in International Development despite being told when she first begun university that this career path didn't exist!
March 22, 2021
Episode 19: Careers in Psychology: Industrial & Organizational Psychology in Ghana
This week's episode features Dr Ernest Darkwah who is a lecturer at the University of Ghana in Psychology in Industrial and Organizational Psychology and Workplace Health. Dr Darkwah completed his undergraduate degree in psychology at the University of Ghana, he then went on to study an MPhil which got upgraded to a PhD research study when he gained a scholarship to study at the University of Bergen in Norway.  His research looked at the work-related experiences and health situations of people who work in human care services which included people who worked in children's homes and orphanages. Stay tuned for a fascinating listen, you can find out about Dr Darkwah here.
March 15, 2021
Episode 18: Careers in Psychology: Psychotherapy and Counselling in Ghana
We are back today with another episode. We had a little hiatus to gather more guests and edit the episodes all in lock down number 2/3. Today we have Prince Offei who is a registered psychotherapist and counsellor based in Accra, Ghana. Counselor Prince Offei completed his undergraduate at Cape Coast University, Ghana.  Prince kindly speaks about his journey to study psychology, his experience of studying undergraduate and postgraduate psychology in Ghana. He also talks about the mix of combining counseling psychotherapy and ministry and gives tips to anyone interested in pursuing a career in psychology in Ghana or anywhere.  Prince Offei also has a podcast called Making a Difference in Mental Health, which you can search for using your podcast player or access using this link. You can find out more about Prince by having a look at his website and by using these links Instagram, Facebook.
March 08, 2021
Episode 17: Careers in Psychology: Researcher
This episode is featuring Krupa Suthar, who is a lead user researcher at the department of health and social care. Krupa has had a really varied and interesting career which started off in research, then education as a primary school teacher and then continued applying psychology to corporate research in many well-known brands. 
December 21, 2020
Episode 16: Careers with Psychology: Social Entrepreneurship
This week's episode showcases Bhairavi Prakash, social entreprenuer and founder of the Mithra Trust. Bhairavi and I studied together in 2007/200 where she completed her MSc in Work and Organizational Psychology at the University of Nottingham.  After the degree, Bhairavi returned to India and was able to navigate through various roles and now is the founder of an innovative and groundbreaking mental health organisation, The Mithra Trust. You can find out more about the Mithra Trust on Instagram @mithratrust.
December 14, 2020
Episode 15: Careers in Psychology: Health Psychology
During this episode we got to speak to the amazing Dr Suhana Begum, a qualified health psychologist who is currently working as a public health lead at a local authority. She completed her professional doctorate in health psychology at City University and is passionate about creating and implementing public health interventions to enhance the lives of the public. 
December 13, 2020
Episode 14 (Part 2) Diversity, Inclusion, Racism and Psychology
This is part two of an event that occurred on Wednesday 18th November 2020 which was a panel event. This part of the event showcased Michael Ndede and Norma Molla's research projects that they completed for their Masters theses. The research studies were about organisational politics and BAME employees and microaggressions in female BAME politicians in the UK. The last section of this episode was a question and answer session by the audience members. 
November 30, 2020
Episode 14 (Part 1): Diversity, Inclusion, Racism and Psychology
This is the recording of a panel event that occurred on Wednesday 18th November 2020. The event was called: Diversity, Inclusion, Racism and Psychology. This part of the event highlighted 3 panelists who were Dr Sylvana Storey- Eisenecker, Sarah Bonner and Kaemorine Prendergast. They were answering three questions including:  How can organisations imbed diversity and inclusion in the workplace?  How can psychology also embed more diversity and inclusion practices into the profession?   How can people be good allies? The second part of the podcast will showcase Michael Ndede and Norma Molla's research projects that they completed for their Masters theses. 
November 30, 2020
Episode 13: Careers in Psychology: Health Psychology
This weeks podcast features final year trainee health psychologist, Izochi (Zoch) Nwaosu. Zoch is completing his professional doctorate in health psychology at the University of West England (UWE) in Bristol, UK) and is currently a sexual health advisor in a London NHS trust. He speaks about his journey to health psychology and how aspects of his current and past roles allow him to implement health-preserving interventions to clients and patients. 
November 23, 2020
Episode 12: Careers in Psychology: Counselling Psychology
This week's episode, we are joined by Dr Orinayo Onabanjo who is a chartered counselling psychologist. Dr Ori works within the NHS with people who are experiencing depression, PTSD, complex trauma and Anxiety. She also has a special interest in perinatal mental health and mainly focuses on this with her private clients.  Dr Ori also has her own podcast that she hosts with her husband called The B in BAME. You can also find her on Instagram here @londonperinatalwellness, @blackperinatalmentalhealth and her private practice website is
November 16, 2020
Episode 11: Careers in Psychology: Forensic Psychology
This episode showcases final year, trainee forensic psychologist, Amber-Renee Gayle. Amber-Renee is completing her doctoral training at the University of Nottingham and is on a 2- year top-up course. This course is for individuals who have already completed a masters degree in forensic psychology and gives students the opportunity to essentially 'fast-track', using a combination of placements, research and block teaching over two years.  Amber-Renee is self-funding her course so if you would like to help out with her fees please donate to her go fund me page here 
November 09, 2020
Episode 10: Careers in Psychology: Clinical Psychology
Today's podcast episode features Dr Nancy Nsiah, a qualified clinical psychologist. We talk about her journey to clinical Psychology and how she navigated the application, doctorate to where she is today. Her interests lie mainly in race, religion, wellbeing and how these things interact.
November 02, 2020
Episode 9: Careers in Psychology: Educational Psychology
Today's episode showcases Jason Shonibare who is a final year trainee Educational Psychologist, training at the Tavistock and Portman NHS trust. Jason shares with us his journey onto the professional doctorate, which began with his interest and natural skill of relating and communicating with others. If you are interested in a career in psychology Jason shares a really inspirational career journey full of perseverance and determination. 
October 26, 2020
Episode 8: Psychology and Entrepreneurship Event (Part 2)
This episode showcases part two of an event that occurred on Thursday 15th October 2020 and highlighted four psychology graduates who were working in psychology along with pursuing other entrepreneurial passions including, wellness, hair and beauty, education and media businesses. The talk was an inspiring look at differing career journeys and passions and shows that there is no one 'proper' career path. The speakers were: Deji Olaniyi -Maxwell - media entrepreneur, podcaster at Pass the Meerkat, sound engineer, musician and forensic mental health practitioner Ama Amo-Agyei - wellness entrepreneur and founder of Planted Winnie Frimpong - Education entrepreneur and organisational psychologist Kaemorine Prendegast - hair and beauty entrepreneur, founder of Celebrity Mane, coach and organisational psychologist
October 19, 2020
Episode 8: Psychology and Entrepreneurship Event (Part 1)
This episode showcases part one of an event that occurred on Thursday 15th October 2020 and highlighted four psychology graduates who were working in psychology along with pursuing other entrepreneurial passions including, wellness, hair and beauty, education and media businesses. The talk was an inspiring look at differing career journeys and passions and shows that there is no one 'proper' career path.  The speakers were: Deji Olaniyi -Maxwell - media entrepreneur, podcaster at Pass the Meerkat, sound engineer, musician and forensic mental health practitioner Ama Amo-Agyei - wellness entrepreneur and founder of Planted Winnie Frimpong - Education entrepreneur and organisational psychologist  Kaemorine Prendegast - hair and beauty entrepreneur, founder of Celebrity Mane, coach and organisational psychologist
October 19, 2020
Episode 7: My Experience of Racism
This episode is a bit different from the usual, as this week we don't have an interview with a psychologist. After the murder of George Floyd in May 2020, many people were outraged and shocked and some people failed to realise that this brand of racism isn't just unique to the American people, the UK also has its issues with racism and race relations.  This episode showcases the experiences of racism from 17 Black Britons from all over the UK and I developed this idea after a conversation with Sarah Bonner.  I would like to thank all of the contributors to this episode because, without their willingness to share their stories, this episode would not have been created.  Contributors: Anita Afirim, Anita Aggrey, Maria Blackmore, Rachel Francis, Josiah Francis, Tristan Hodge, Eugene James, Gina Jarrett, Angela Rockson, Mary Sarpong, Bianka Whynn, Yannick Yalipende, Keisha York. Warning: This episode does contain strong language and racial slurs.
October 12, 2020
Episode 6: Careers in Psychology: Industrial/ Organizational Psychology
This week's podcast features a psychologist from across the pond. Recia Gomez completed a Masters in what the Americans call Industrial/Organizational Psychology but the Brits call it Occupational/Organisational/Business/Work Psychology (so many names here). Recia currently works for a consultancy that is based in New York specialising in creating selection assessments for those who work in law enforcement roles including the Police, all over the USA and internationally. Tune in to hear more about her interesting career. In her spare time, Recia is also on the board for various organisations which aim to put I/O (Industrial/Organizational) psychology to practical and current use.  These organisations include: Blacks in I/O The Global Organization for Humanitarian Work Psychology SIOP CEMA
October 05, 2020
Episode 5: Careers in Psychology: Psychotherapy and Counselling
In this episode we present Bianka Whynn, who is a BACP registered Psychotherapist and Counsellor. She speaks candidly about what brought her to complete her postgraduate diploma in psychotherapy and counselling and her journey from BSc Psychology at City, University of London to various roles in education, housing and mental health. Bianka also has an inherited blood disorder, Sickle Cell,  but a less known form called Sickle Beta Zero Thalassemia. She talks about how she has lived with this condition and how she has learned to accommodate it into her work choices. September is Sickle Cell Awareness month and we are raising money for the Sickle Cell Society and you can find the link to the fundraising page here.  Belpw are also some links that you might want to use to learn more about what was discussed in the episode:  University of East London's PGDIP Counselling & Psychotherapy Course City, University of London BSc Psychology Course Sickle Cell Society Information on Sickle Beta Zero Thalassemia
September 28, 2020
Episode 4: Careers in Psychology: Occupational Psychology
This episode introduces two occupational/business/organisational psychologists: Winnie Frimpong and Lola Odunsi. These practitioners work in the field of selection and assessment, designing, measuring and assessing employees and potential employees' ability to do their jobs in both the public and private sector. So those assessments that are common in many selection processes including the graduate programmes, these two can design, administer and assess people. We go into how they both decided to study psychology, what they like best about their jobs and what advice they would give to any one who is thinking about pursuing this area of psychology. 
September 21, 2020
Episode 3: Careers in Psychology Sport and Exercise Psychology
This episode showcases a Trainee Sport and Exercise Psychologist, Dawn-Marie Armstrong. She is currently in her final year of a professional doctorate in sport and exercise psychology at Liverpool John Moores University in the UK. Dawn-Marie has a long history of playing sport to a high level and in this episode, we will be discussing her journey from an athlete in Barbados to pursuing and studying sport and exercise psychology in the UK.  If you are interested in this area of psychology please check out these links: Liverpool John Moores University Professional Doctorate in Sport and Exercise Psychology   Prospects information about Sport and Exercise Psychology British Psychological Society information about Sport and Exercise Psychology
September 14, 2020
Episode 2 (Part 2): Alternative careers with Psychology (August event) - Question and Answer Section
This episode features the second part of our alternative careers with psychology event which was held on Tuesday 18th August 2020 and highlights the question and answer section. The audience submitted questions and then the panelists, Ranbir Jabanda,  Anne-Marie Stafford and Koral Neil answered them. Please subscribe and listen to other episodes
September 06, 2020
Episode 2 (Part 1): Alternative Careers with Psychology (August Event)
Welcome to the second episode of our alternative careers with psychology event. This event took place on Tuesday 18th August 2020 and showcased 3 individuals who studied psychology at undergraduate and postgraduate level. Our panelists were: Anne- Marie Stafford - Social Sciences Teacher, Ranbir Jabanda - Business Engagement Officer and Koral Neil - Actress. You can also listen to our part 2 which covers the question and answer section of the event.
September 06, 2020
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August 19, 2020
Episode 1 (Part 2): Alternative Careers in Psychology Event Recording Q&A
This is part two of our Alternative Careers in Psychology event and showcases the live question and answer session from our event held on Thursday 18th June 2020. The panelists were Taslim Tharani, Michael Ndede and Charlotte Oppong.
August 12, 2020
Episode 1: Alternative Careers in Psychology Event Recording (Part 1)
This is the first episode of the event held on the 18th June 2020. The Alternative Careers in Psychology event showcased four individuals who didn't take traditional routes of a career in psychology after their careers. The recording features the host, Dr Grace Mansah-Owusu and speakers including Taslim Tharani, Michael Ndede and Charlotte Oppong.
August 12, 2020