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#151 - Kate Fagan on ALL THE COLORS CAME OUT
Emmy-winning journalist and #1 New York Times bestselling author Kate Fagan chats with Trey Elling about ALL THE COLORS CAME OUT: A FATHER, A DAUGHTER, AND A LIFETIME OF LESSONS. The book details Kate's relationship with her dad, who died from complications of ALS in December 2019. Questions include: What was her dad like as a parent during her childhood? Why did he wisely never let her beat him as a kid? How did her decision to play college hoops far from home impact their relationship? Why did Kate let her mom tell him when she came out as gay? What did she go through when he informed her of his ALS diagnosis? How did Kate learn that she and her dad slept in the same position? Why was the night before Kate's wedding an important moment in her relationship with dad? What does she cherish about her mom?
July 22, 2021
#150 - Charles Farrell on (LOW)LIFE
Former jazz pianist and boxing manager Charles Farrell chats with Trey Elling about (LOW)LIFE: A MEMOIR OF JAZZ, FIGHT-FIXING, AND THE MOB. Questions include: How did Charles get into music, gambling, and hustling as a kid? (01:56) Why John Coltrane is the only musician he ever saw in person who scared him, and how did it impact his music? (06:57) What did teenaged Charles do when Janis Joplin tried to seduce him? (08:54) Which was the worst of the many mob clubs that Charles played in the 1970s? (10:36) How did Charles manage Leon Spinks so late in Leon's career, and what challenges did that pose? (18:30) Why does he believe Sonny Liston took dives in both his fights with Ali? (23:39) Was Mike Tyson's fight with Peter McNeeley fixed in any way? (33:31) What does Charles mean when he refers to Mike Tyson's former trainer Cus D'Amato as a "chickenhawk"? (35:15) Did Charles ever get suckered into a boxing bet that cost him big? (40:28) Is Charles considering turning his life story into a movie? (54:38)
July 20, 2021
#149 - Ginny Smith on OVERLOADED
Neuroscience expert and storyteller Ginny Smith chats with Trey Elling about OVERLOADED: HOW EVERY ASPECT OF YOUR LIFE IS INFLUENCED BY YOUR BRAIN CHEMICALS. Questions include: How do sea slugs help us better understand human memory? (02:40) Why is dopamine not necessarily the pleasure chemical? (06:30) What causes some people to urinate themselves when scared? (10:29) Why do we sleep? (25:37) How does coffee wake us up, and why does it lose its effect over time? (29:48) Chemically speaking, why do people overeat? (32:52) Does swearing help with pain? (35:17)
July 15, 2021
#148 - Dennis Kucinich on THE DIVISION OF LIGHT AND POWER
Former mayor of Cleveland, US congressman, and Democratic presidential candidate Dennis Kucinich chats with Trey Elling about THE DIVISION OF LIGHT AND POWER. The book chronicles Dennis' political rise in Cleveland, fueled by his desire to keep the city from selling its municipal electricity system to a private interest. The fight led to many powerful enemies and more than one attempt on his life, also ultimately costing him two marriages. Dennis and Trey discuss these details and much more.
July 13, 2021
#147 - Mike Leach, Mississippi State Head Football Coach
For the second episode of our NO BOOKS REQUIRED series, Trey Elling chats with Mike Leach, aka 'the Bill Murray of college football'. Questions include: Does Mike like Zoom calls? (01:42) Is he ever asked about his 'fat girlfriends' quote? (02:47) How does Gardner Minshew impress him? (09:07) Why did actor Jim Caviezel visit him in Starkville during the spring? (15:56) What does Mike's plan for expanding the college football playoff to 64 teams look like? (18:06) And just how believable is the internet rumor that Craig James killed five hookers while playing football at SMU? (30:58)
July 8, 2021
#146 - Douglas Chadwick on FOUR-FIFTHS A GRIZZLY
Wildlife biologist, National Geographic journalist, and bestselling author Doug Chadwick chats with Trey Elling about FOUR-FIFTHS A GRIZZLY: A NEW PERSPECTIVE ON NATURE THAT MIGHT JUST SAVE US ALL. What has the human population explosion of the past fifty years done to plant- and animal life? Just how genetically similar are we to other creatures? Why are grizzlys, elephants, and colony insects so impressive? What are the physiological benefits of being out in nature? And how can we take simple steps to positively impact all other lifeforms? Doug and Trey discuss these things and much more.
July 6, 2021
#145 - CJ Hunt & Roy Wood Jr on THE NEUTRAL GROUND
The Daily Show's CJ Hunt & Roy Wood Jr join Trey Elling for episode #2 of Docs on Pod to discuss their documentary, THE NEUTRAL GROUND. The film, directed by Hunt and executive produced by Wood, chronicles the multi-year fight that led to the removal of several statues in New Orleans that honored Confederate figures. During that time, Hunt explored the strong feelings on both sides of the issue, including taking part in a Civil War reenactment and visiting a plantation museum that shared its history from the slaves' perspective. THE NEUTRAL GROUND premieres on PBS on July 5th, as the first episode of the 34th season of POV. 
July 1, 2021
#144 - Claudia Kalb on SPARK
New York Times bestselling author and science/psychology/human behavior journalist Claudia Kalb chats with Trey Elling about SPARK: HOW GENIUS IGNITES, FROM CHILD PRODIGIES TO LATE BLOOMERS. Did you know that Picasso and Yo Yo Ma discovered their brilliance in childhood? Or that the bubonic plague factored into Sir Isaac Newton's coming of age in his early 20s? Or how Julia Child's "middle-agedness" contributed to her appeal? And that Peter Mark Roget created the first edition of his famous thesaurus in his 70s, after a successful career in medicine? Claudia and Trey discuss these things plus the circumstances and attributes that assist in an individual's genius.
June 29, 2021
#143 - Daniel Levin on PROOF OF LIFE
Lawyer, political commentator, and author Daniel Levin chats with Trey Elling about PROOF OF LIFE: TWENTY DAYS ON THE HUNT FOR A MISSING PERSON IN THE MIDDLE EAST. The book describes Daniel's attempts to locate someone who went missing in war-torn Syria, one of the most dangerous and hopeless places on the planet, as well as those heroes and villains he met along the way. Daniel and Trey talk about some of those details.
June 24, 2021
#142 - Dr. Maya Shankar
For episode #1 of our 'No Books Required' series, we're joined by Dr. Maya Shankar. Maya is a cognitive scientist, former Obama White House senior advisor, and the host of the new podcast, A SLIGHT CHANGE OF PLANS. Maya chats with Trey Elling about why she decided to enter the podcasting realm, learning about situations that inspired change from people like Kacey Musgraves, Tiffany Haddish, and Tommy Caldwell; significant change she's experienced in her own life, changing how the government influences decisions thru cognitive science, and more.
June 22, 2021
Personal trainer and Mind Pump podcast co-host Sal Di Stefano chats with Trey Elling about THE RESISTANCE TRAINING REVOLUTION. Why is steady-state cardio an inefficient form of exercise? How does resistance training improve hormone levels, depression, and anxiety? Are doing reps to failure and working out until you're really sore actually bad strategies? What is intuitive eating? Sal and Trey discuss all of this and much more.
June 17, 2021
#140 - Edward Slingerland on DRUNK
University of British Columbia philosophy professor and bestselling author Edward Slingerland chats with Trey Elling about DRUNK: HOW WE SIPPED, DANCED, AND STUMBLED OUR WAY TO CIVILIZATION. Did you know that alcohol production may haven pre-dated and even inspired early agricultural practices? Or that the right amount of alcohol allows us to become more creative, cultural, and communal? Speaking of, what is that 'right' amount before booze becomes destructive? Plus, why do some cultures have significantly lower rates of alcoholism than others? And how much of this book was written while tipsy? Ted and Trey discuss all of this and much more.
June 15, 2021
#139 - Rutger Bregman on HUMANKIND
Historian and bestselling author Rutger Bregman chats with Trey Elling about HUMANKIND: A HOPEFUL HISTORY. Over the past few decades, many scientists have become much more optimistic on human nature. Did you know that a real life version of the fictional book Lord of the Flies happened in the 1960s with drastically different results? Or that the Stanford Prison Experiment was not the pure process its head scientists led us to believe? Or that a Norwegian prison which allows it inhabitants a shocking amount of trust and freedom creates law-abiding citizens? Trey and Rutger discuss these things and much more.
June 11, 2021
#138 - Kevin Roose on FUTUREPROOF
New York Times tech columnist Kevin Roose chats with Trey Elling about FUTUREPROOF: 9 RULES FOR HUMANS IN THE AGE OF AUTOMATION. Why does Kevin consider himself a sub-optimist on the future of artificial intelligence and automation? How is AI quickly replacing the "Michael Scott" middle-management types? Kevin answers these questions and shares details from each of his nine rules for humans.
June 8, 2021
Naismith Basketball Hall of Famer, two-time NBA champ, 11-time All Star, and Olympic gold medalist Chris Bosh chats with Trey Elling about LETTERS TO A YOUNG ATHLETE. In this book, Chris offers guidance to young people on what it takes to achieve greatness. The guys discuss 'finding your why', keeping your ego in check, not letting wins or losses linger, and much more.
June 3, 2021
#136 - Josh Rogin on CHAOS UNDER HEAVEN
Washington Post columnist and CNN political correspondent Josh Rogin chats with Trey Elling about CHAOS UNDER HEAVEN: TRUMP, XI, AND THE BATTLE FOR THE 21st CENTURY. How did previous administrations' missteps on China pave the way for Trump's erratic handling of the CCP? What aggressive takeover strategy did Chinese president Xi Jinping detail in 'Document 9'? Who is the Bingo Club? How have General Electric and the California Public Employees' Retirement System helped the Chinese military? Why did former Houston Rocket GM Daryl Morey's tweet show the CCP's ability to censor speech outside of its borders? What did Josh report on in March of 2020 regarding COVID 19 and a potential lab leak in Wuhan? Are China's cyber warfare abilities a concern? Josh and Trey discuss these things and much more.
June 1, 2021
#135 - Glenn Frankel on SHOOTING MIDNIGHT COWBOY
Pulitzer Prize winner Glenn Frankel chats with Trey Elling about SHOOTING MIDNIGHT COWBOY: ART, SEX, LONELINESS, LIBERATION, AND THE MAKING OF A DARK CLASSIC. What was the story behind the Midnight Cowboy book that the film was based on? Why did a then-conservative Hollywood allow something so risque allowed to be made? What drew director John Schlesinger to the project? Were Dustin Hoffman and Jon Voight shoo-ins for the main characters? Were political forces behind the film's initial X-rating? Why did Dustin Hoffman avoid promoting the film when it came out? How surprising was Midnight Cowboy's win for 'Best Picture' at the 1970 Academy Awards? Glenn and Trey discuss these things and much more.
May 27, 2021
#134 - George Zaidan on INGREDIENTS
American Chemistry Society executive producer George Zaidan chats with Trey Elling about INGREDIENTS: THE STRANGE CHEMISTRY OF WHAT WE PUT IN US AND ON US. What makes a food highly processed? How and why humans begin to preserved food? What does aphid excrement have to do with one of the first sugar-added treats humans enjoyed? How are cigarettes and e-cigs similar and different? Is there such a thing as too much sunscreen? What causes scientific research to become flawed? Is coffee good or bad for us? And what is an acceptable amount of processed food to consume? George and Trey discuss these topics and much more.
May 25, 2021
#133 - Talib Kweli on VIBRATE HIGHER
Brooklyn-based MC Talib Kweli chats with Trey Elling about VIBRATE HIGHER: A RAP STORY, including his goal with the book, hip hop influences from his childhood and adolescence, why he and Mos Def work so well together, lessons learned from Erykah Badu, Questlove, and Dave Chapelle, the most profound thing his grandma ever told him, and more.
May 20, 2021
#132 - Kristin Swenson on A MOST PECULIAR BOOK
Religious studies expert Kristin Swenson chats with Trey Elling about A MOST PECULIAR BOOK: THE INHERENT STRANGENESS OF THE BIBLE, including: understanding the three histories relating to The Bible in understanding the book itself, distinguishing between the literal and figurative with its stories, the meanings of a talking donkey and Jonah surviving in the belly of a giant fish for three days, the legitimacy of David killing Goliath, the symbolism of Revelation, and more.
May 18, 2021
#131 - Jason Schreier on PRESS RESET
Bloomberg News video game reporter and Blood, Sweat, and Pixels author Jason Schreier chats with Trey Elling about PRESS RESET: RUIN AND RECOVERY IN THE VIDEO GAME INDUSTRY, including: how 'fun' is determined when making a game and former MLB pitcher Curt Schilling's failed efforts as a video game CEO. Plus they discuss some current events in gaming, like the ongoing legal battle between Apple and Epic Games over Fortnite.
May 13, 2021
Nicole Perlroth, a cybersecurity and digital espionage journalist for The New York Times, chats with Trey Elling about THIS IS HOW THEY TELL ME THE WORLD ENDS: THE CYBER WEAPONS ARMS RACE, including: an explanation of zero-day exploits that have become so valuable to governments and businesses around the world, how the US initiated international cyber-conflict, whether American officials recognize their role in cyberwar, a phone call Nicole received in 2017 that speaks to the book's ominous title, and more.
May 11, 2021
#129 - Oliver Stone on CHASING THE LIGHT
Oliver Stone joins Trey Elling for a second time to chat about CHASING THE LIGHT, his memoir from birth through the making of Platoon. This time around, the conversation includes Oliver's life and films since Platoon, including The Doors, JFK, and Natural Born Killers, as well as some randomness along the way. To hear Trey's much more book-intensive interview with Oliver on episode #61, click HERE. 
May 6, 2021
#128 - Matt Taibbi on HATE INC.
Award-winning reporter and bestselling author Matt Taibbi chats with Trey Elling about HATE INC.: WHY TODAY'S MEDIA MAKES US DESPISE ONE ANOTHER, including: the book that changed his perspective on how the media operates, how political news takes cues from sports coverage, the ridiculous beginnings of "the beer test" that is now routinely discussed during presidential elections, when and how factual loopholes are used in the news, gaining a delayed appreciation for Walter Cronkite, and more.
May 4, 2021
#127 - Ioan Grillo on BLOOD GUN MONEY
Ioan Grillo, a Mexico City-based author and journalist whose stories on crime and gangs have been published in the New York Times and National Geographic, chats with Trey Elling about BLOOD GUN MONEY: HOW AMERICA ARMS GANGS AND CARTELS, including: the histories of assault weapons, the NRA, and gun laws; how legal guns end up on the black market and in America's poorest communities and trafficked across the border to drug cartels, mass shootings in the US, 3D printed guns, and more.
April 29, 2021
#126 - Tim Shriver on THE CALL TO UNITE
Longtime Special Olympics chairman and UNITE co-founder Tim Shriver chats with Trey Elling about THE CALL TO UNITE: VOICES OF HOPE AND AWAKENING, a collection of essays by influential people from all walks of life on society's most pressing issues, co-edited by Tim. They discuss how a phone call to Oprah initiated the project, contributions from chef José Andrés, Julia Roberts, and the Dalai Lama; learning from Special Olympics athletes, and more.
April 27, 2021
#125 - Gerald Posner on PHARMA
Award-winning journalist and bestselling author Gerald Posner chats with Trey Elling about PHARMA: GREED, LIES, AND THE POISONING OF AMERICA, including: the pharmaceutical industry's lawless beginnings in the mid-1800s, their initial lack of enthusiasm about antibiotics, Arthur Sackler as the godfather of pharma's manipulative marketing practices, the harmful ways women were exploited in the 1960s and '70s, the groundwork that led to an opioid crisis, how the Sacklers built their Purdue Pharma empire with OxyContin, and much more.
April 22, 2021
BoP Docs on Pod #1 - Joshua Rofé on SASQUATCH
In the inaugural edition of our documentary-focused episodes, filmmaker Joshua Rofé chats with Trey Elling about Hulu's three-part docuseries, SASQUATCH, including: how Joshua initially got involved in this true crime thriller; the evolution of the Humboldt-Mendocino-Trinity counties in northern California into the largest cannabis-producing region in the US, working with the Duplass brothers, and more.
April 20, 2021
#124 - Matt Feeney on LITTLE PLATOONS
Philosopher and father of three Matt Feeney chats with Trey Elling about LITTLE PLATOONS: A DEFENSE OF FAMILY IN A COMPETITIVE AGE, including: how competition affects parents' ability to do their job in public, with youth sports, with cell phones, during elementary school, through college admissions, and more.
April 15, 2021
#123 - Michaeleen Doucleff on HUNT, GATHER, PARENT
NPR science correspondent Michaeleen Doucleff chats with Trey Elling about HUNT, GATHER, PARENT: WHAT ANCIENT CULTURES CAN TEACH US ABOUT THE LOST ART OF RAISING HAPPY, HELPFUL LITTLE HUMANS, including: the lack of actual science backing certain popular beliefs among Western parenting, why Maya children are so helpful without much coaxing, how Inuit parents and children rarely lose their cool with each other, the Hadzabe way of fostering independence, and more.
April 13, 2021
#122 - Alex Davies on DRIVEN
Business Insider transportation editor Alex Davies chats with Trey Elling about DRIVEN: THE RACE TO CREATE THE AUTONOMOUS CAR, including: how DARPA helped initiate the modern pursuit of self-driving cars less than 20 years ago, major players in its evolution, when and why Google, Uber, and the Big 3 US automakers got involved; realistic predictions for the future of self-driving- and flying cars, and more.
April 8, 2021
#121 - Jo Koy on MIXED PLATE
Standup comedian Jo Koy chats with Trey Elling about MIXED PLATE: CHRONICLES OF AN ALL-AMERICAN COMBO, including: the complex family dynamic of his upbringing, what made him want to become a standup and the first steps he took in that process, valuable advice he received from fellow comedians along the way, betting on himself to get in with Netflix, and more.
April 6, 2021
#120 - Michael Moss on HOOKED
Pulitzer Prize-winning investigative journalist Michael Moss chats with Trey Elling about HOOKED: FOOD, FREE WILL, AND HOW THE FOOD GIANTS EXPLOIT OUR ADDICTIONS, including: what 'addiction' means, why food can be more addictive than hard drugs, various examples of food companies grabbing hold of consumers through flavor and marketing, genetics' effect on food addiction, and more.
April 1, 2021
#119 - Carl ZImmer on LIFE'S EDGE
Award-winning New York Times science columnist Carl Zimmer chats with Trey Elling about LIFE'S EDGE: THE SEARCH FOR WHAT IT MEANS TO BE ALIVE, including: what science tells us about the idea that life begins at conception, the metabolic similarities between pythons and racehorses, why the homeostasis of bats is so impressive, whether viruses are truly alive, and more.
March 30, 2021
#118 - Arik Kershenbaum on THE ZOOLOGIST'S GUIDE TO THE GALAXY
Zoologist's and astrobiologist Arik Kershenbaum chats with Trey Elling about THE ZOOLOGIST'S GUIDE TO THE GALAXY: WHAT ANIMALS ON EARTH REVEAL ABOUT ALIENS--AND OURSELVES, including: whether life on this planet suggests how aliens might move, communicate, have sex, wage war, and more.
March 25, 2021
#117 - Andrew Steele on AGELESS
Former computational biologist and current science writer and presenter Andrew Steele chats with Trey Elling about AGELESS: THE NEW SCIENCE OF GETTING OLDER WITHOUT GETTING OLD. How does caloric restriction affect aging? Why are telomeres important? Can rich guys turn back the clock with young blood? And how close are we to curing aging? Andrew answers these questions and much more.
March 23, 2021
#116 - Mark Humphries on THE SPIKE
Computational neuroscientist Mark Humphries chats with Trey Elling about THE SPIKE: AN EPIC JOURNEY THROUGH THE BRAIN IN 2.1 SECONDS, including: an orchestra as an analogy for the cacophony of neural spikes, how rats' whiskers help us understand the accuracy of neural messaging, the value of dark neurons, frequency vs timing with spikes, the brain using past experiences to make decisions while the spike process is still going on, and more.
March 18, 2021
#115 - Kim McCoy on WAVES AND BEACHES
Oceanographer and adventurer Kim McCoy chats with Trey Elling about the 3rd edition of WAVES AND BEACHES: THE POWERFUL DYNAMICS OF SEA AND COAST, including: the moon's effect on the Earth's tides, what happens when a wave breaks near the shore, Kim's own adventures on a glacier, island, and surfing, the perpetual transfer of sand to and from beaches, climate change's impact on oceans and shorelines, and more.
March 16, 2021
Harvard theoretical physicist Avi Loeb chats with Trey Elling about EXTRATERRESTRIAL: THE FIRST SIGN OF INTELLIGENT LIFE BEYOND EARTH, including: the object in question from 2017 and evidence that suggests it was something more synthetic than a comet or space rocket, why science is often afraid to question the norm, whether we're truly ready to know that life exists beyond our planet, space junk in the Earth's orbit, the prospect of life on Mars, and more.
March 11, 2021
#113 - Les Stroud on WILD OUTSIDE
"Survivorman" Les Stroud chats with Trey Elling about WILD OUTSIDE: AROUND THE WORLD WITH SURVIVORMAN, a book meant to inspire kids to seek out adventures while remembering the four pillars of survival: preparing, observing, reacting, and adapting. Les shares personal anecdotes to exemplify each.
March 9, 2021
#112 - Euan Angus Ashley on THE GENOME ODYSSEY
Stanford cardiologist and geneticist Dr. Euan Ashley chats with Trey Elling about THE GENOME ODYSSEY: MEDICAL MYSTERIES AND THE INCREDIBLE QUEST TO SOLVE THEM, including how his medical interest in the heart eventually included the genome, specific cases solved via the Undiagnosed Diseases Network, genetic mutations that benefit the individuals, CRISPR's potential role in the future of rare genetic diseases, and more.
March 4, 2021
#111 - Erika Engelhaupt on GORY DETAILS
Science writer and editor Erika Engelhaupt chats with Trey Elling about GORY DETAILS: ADVENTURES FROM THE DARK SIDE OF SCIENCE, including: whether your dog would eat you if you died, the rise of maggot farms, how a blow fly's love of semen may compromise a crime scene, the violent tendencies of meerkats and dolphins toward their own, cannibals and a human's true nutritional value, fecal transplants, whether chlorine kills off urine in a pool, why clowns are so creepy, misophonia, and much more.
March 2, 2021
#110 - Peter Vronsky on AMERICAN SERIAL KILLERS
Criminal justice history expert Peter Vronsky chats with Trey Elling about AMERICAN SERIAL KILLERS: THE EPIDEMIC YEARS 1950 - 2000, including: common traits from these killers' childhoods, Edmund Kemper's mommy issues, serial killers' bizarre moral lines, Jeffrey Dahmer's unraveling, whether the signs point to another murderous epidemic in the near future, and more.
February 25, 2021
#109 - Rosa Brooks on TANGLED UP IN BLUE
Georgetown law professor and former DC reserve police officer Rosa Brooks chats with Trey Elling about TANGLED UP IN BLUE: POLICING THE AMERICAN CITY, which shares her thoughts and experiences on policing, after patrolling one of our nation's capital's most destitute areas for four years. The conversation includes whether her academy training was adequate, why over-policing happens, the biggest thrill of the job, continual training, what makes a bad cop, defunding the police, and more.
February 23, 2021
#108 - Robert Paarlberg on RESETTING THE TABLE
Food policy expert Rob Paarlberg chats with Trey Elling about RESETTING THE TABLE: STRAIGHT TALK ABOUT THE FOOD WE GROW AND EAT, including: why 'organic' and 'local' are the wrong ways to think about sustained agricultural practices, poor communities being affected by food swamps rather than food deserts, how junk food infiltrated our food supply in the 19th century, Silly Putty's connection to McDonald's french fries, the public's rejection of GMOs, America's need to improve livestock practices, what farmers can do better, and more.
February 18, 2021
#107 - Mark BIttman on ANIMAL, VEGETABLE, JUNK
Emmy-winning and New York Times bestselling food journalist Mark Bittman chats with Trey Elling about ANIMAL, VEGETABLE, JUNK: A HISTORY OF FOOD, FROM SUSTAINABLE TO SUICIDAL, including: how highly processed foods became such a major part of our food supply, the rise of the hamburger and ketchup, the "real" Betty Crocker, sugary/processed food finding its way to our littlest mouths, high fructose corn syrup's role, GMOs, buying organic and local, solutions for getting things back on track, and more.
February 16, 2021
#106 - Bassem Youssef on THE MAGICAL REALITY OF NADIA
He's known as the "Jon Stewart of the Middle East." But even that impressive title sells Bassem Youssef's unique life short: he's worked as everything from heart surgeon to standup comedian, and now children's book author. Bassem chats with Trey Elling about THE MAGIC REALITY OF NADIA, hosting an Egyptian political satire tv show that ultimately forced him to leave his native country, and much more.
February 11, 2021
#105 - Paul Nurse on WHAT IS LIFE?
Nobel laureate Sir Paul Nurse chats with Trey Elling about WHAT IS LIFE? FIVE GREAT IDEAS IN BIOLOGY, including: how a butterfly inspired the first time he ever considered the question of life, answering this question in a book that could be understood by scientists and non-scientists alike, and why he focused on these five ideas along with details about each: the cell, the gene, evolution by natural selection, life as chemistry, and life as information. Plus, Paul shares his thoughts on a few current challenges and whether mankind is up to the task.
February 9, 2021
Sexually transmitted infection expert Dr. Ina Park chats with Trey Elling about STRANGE BEDFELLOWS: ADVENTURES IN THE SCIENCE, HISTORY, AND SURPRISING SECRETS OF STDs, including: the role of a sex detective, the false stigma around herpes, Ina's hope that all children contract oral herpes, merkins and other pubic grooming habits, how gonorrhea earned the nickname "the clap", the miracle of modern medicine via the HPV vaccine, the importance of discussing topics like these with humor and honesty rather than condemnation, and much more.
February 4, 2021
#103 - Zadra & Stickgold on WHEN BRAINS DREAM
Sleep scientists Antonio Zadra and Robert Stickgold chat with Trey Elling about WHEN BRAINS DREAM: EXPLORING THE SCIENCE AND MYSTERY OF SLEEP, including: why Freud receives too much credit regarding dreams, how the discovery of REM sleep in the 1950s was a game-changer, how sleep uses dreams to process memories and emotions, whether dogs dream, an explanation of their NEXTUP model of dream function, how REM sleep and taking LSD illicit a similar chemical reaction in the brain, dream incubation, lucid dreams, PTSD-induced dreams, and more.
February 2, 2021
#102 - Kevin Dutton on BLACK AND WHITE THINKING
Psychologist Kevin Dutton chats with Trey Elling about BLACK AND WHITE THINKING: THE BURDEN OF A BINARY BRAIN IN A COMPLEX WORLD, including: the illusion of order, how categorization helps us understand the world, why one person's 'blue' is another's 'celestial haze', the importance of framing with persuasion, and more.
January 29, 2021
#101 - "Cousin Sal" Iacono on YOU CAN'T WIN THEM ALL
Comedian, media personality, and degenerate gambler Sal Iacono chats with Trey Elling about YOU CAN'T WIN THEM ALL: TALES OF A DEGENERATE GAMBLER AND HIS RIDICULOUS FRIENDS, including: betting on his son's pee-wee flag football game, denying a homeless guy the last piece of pepperoni pizza, his first experience in participating in competitive eating, why Amarillo Slim is on the Mt. Rushmore for gamblers, and more.
January 27, 2021
Neuroscientist and psychologist Lisa Feldman Barrett chats with Trey Elling about SEVEN AND A HALF LESSONS ABOUT THE BRAIN, including: why thinking isn't the primary reason the human brain evolved differently from other animals, the importance of caregivers on young children's minds, how we influence each other's mental makeup, why compression is a component of our brains creating our reality, and much more.
January 26, 2021
This episode is a roundtable discussion on A MOST INTERESTING PROBLEM: WHAT DARWIN'S DESCENT OF MAN GOT RIGHT AND WRONG ABOUT HUMAN EVOLUTION, a compilation of constructive criticisms on some of Charles Darwin's most profound evolutionary thoughts, 150 years after their initial publication.  The guests are the book's editor, Jeremy DeSilva, as well as Suzana Herculano-Houzel and Agustín Fuentes, who each contributed a chapter.
January 21, 2021
#98 - Aaron Horschig on REBUILDING MILO
Doctor of physical therapy and Squat University founder Aaron Horschig chats with Trey Elling about REBUILDING MILO: THE LIFTER'S GUIDE TO FIXING COMMON INJURIES AND BUILDING A STRONG FOUNDATION FOR ENHANCING PERFORMANCE. The book empowers people suffering from minor injuries in the back, hips, knee, shoulder, elbow and ankle by teaching them how to properly diagnose, activate, and strengthen the root cause of pain. Plus, he touts the benefits of squatting for exercise and dispels the myth that ice is good for injuries.
January 19, 2021
#97 - Alexi Pappas on BRAVEY
Award-winning writer, filmmaker and Olympian Alexi Pappas chats with Trey Elling about BRAVEY: CHASING DREAMS, BEFRIENDING PAIN, AND OTHER BIG IDEAS, including: childhood trauma involving her mom and working through it as an adult, the evolution of her love of running peaking with a record-setting run at the 2016 Summer Olympics in Rio, her experience with (and overcoming) depression, and more.
January 14, 2021
#96 - Frank Figliuzzi on THE FBI WAY
Former FBI assistant deputy for counterterrorism Frank Figliuzzi chats with Trey Elling about THE FBI WAY: INSIDE THE BUREAU'S CODE OF EXCELLENCE, including: the FBI's core values broken down into seven c-words, how the Bureau invests in hiring and training the right people, why they don't conduct such thorough checks on public/elected officials, the importance of conservancy, holding their leaders to a higher standard, the seriousness of an agent compromising the FBI's trust, making decisions despite consequences, why 'consistency' and 'change' are intertwined, and much more.
January 12, 2021
#95 - Mike Ayers on ONE LAST SONG
If you could listen to one more song before leaving this planet, what would it be? Mike Ayers asked more than 30 musicians for their song. That question and those answers serve as the foundation for Ayers' book, ONE LAST SONG: CONVERSATIONS ON LIFE, DEATH, AND MUSIC. He chats with Trey Elling about It, including: the genesis of the question, how it came to life as a book, why Killer Mike chose his own song, Lauren Mayberry selecting a Katy Perry tune, Jim James of My Morning Jacket contributing a song and the book's forward, and more.
January 5, 2021
#94 - Daniel E. Lieberman on EXERCISED
Harvard paleoanthropologist Dan Lieberman chats with Trey Elling about EXERCISED: WHY SOMETHING WE NEVER EVOLVED TO DO IS HEALTHY AND REWARDING, including: how our activity levels compare to primates and modern hunter/gatherers, whether sitting is the new smoking, the legitimacy of ten-thousand steps and eight hours of sleep, the benefits of walking, running, and resistance training, how exercise can help with cancer and mental health issues, and more.
December 29, 2020
#93 - Gary Taubes on THE CASE FOR KETO
Award-winning, science and health journalist and author Gary Taubes chats with Trey Elling about THE KASE FOR KETO: RETHINKING WEIGHT CONTROL AND THE SCIENCE AND PRACTICE OF LOW-CARB/HIGH-FAT EATING, including: why this book is meant for people suffering from obesity, the roles of hormones and metabolic flexibility with obesity, an explanation of ketones, whether protein intake should be limited when eating keto, and more.
December 22, 2020
#92 - Dilip Jeste on WISER
Dr. Dilip Jeste chats with Trey Elling about WISER: THE SCIENTIFIC ROOTS OF WISDOM, COMPASSION, AND WHAT MAKES US GOOD, including: the definition of wisdom, how to quantify wisdom, the importance of prosocial attitudes and behaviors, wise decision-making, the uniquely human quality of self-reflection, the future or wisdom, and more.
December 15, 2020
#91 - Big Freedia on BIG FREEDIA
Big Freedia chats with Trey Elling about BIG FREEDIA: GOD SAVE THE QUEEN DIVA, including: what sparked Freedia's love of performing on stage, coming out to mamma as a freshman in high school, how a mountain-of-a-man named KT helped launch Freedia's solo career, surviving getting shot AND Hurricane Katrina, the origins of twerking, creating a documentary that demands action after Freedia's brother died from gun violence, and more.
December 10, 2020
#90 - Dennis McDougal on OPERATION WHITE RABBIT
Dennis McDougal chats with Trey Elling about OPERATION WHITE RABBIT: LSD, THE DEA, AND THE FATE OF THE ACID KING, the story of William Leonard Pickard's rise to become one of the top acid cooks on the planet, his eventual capture by the DEA that plays out like a scene from BREAKING BAD, and an unexpected bit of redemption in the end.
December 8, 2020
#89 - Melissa Maerz on ALRIGHT, ALRIGHT, ALRIGHT
Melissa Maerz chats with Trey Elling about ALRIGHT, ALRIGHT, ALRIGHT: THE ORAL HISTORY OF RICHARD LINKLATER'S DAZED AND CONFUSED, including: the parallels between the film and Linklater's actual high school experience in small-town Texas, how the actors lived out an Austin summer camp for young adults away from the cameras, stories behind several memorable scenes, Linklater's fight with the studio over the soundtrack and their marketing of DAZED as stoner flick, and more.
December 3, 2020
#88 - David Herzberg on WHITE MARKET DRUGS
David Herzberg chats with Trey Elling about WHITE MARKET DRUGS: BIG PHARMA AND THE HIDDEN HISTORY OF ADDICTION IN AMERICA, including: details of the three different "pharmaceutical" drug crises in America since the 1870s, the main drug(s) of choice in each era, big pharma's role in fueling each, the successes and failures of various reform efforts, and more.
December 1, 2020
#87 - Jim Gray on TALKING TO GOATs
Jim Gray chats with Trey Elling about TALKING TO GOATs: THE MOMENTS YOU REMEMBER...AND THE STORIES YOU NEVER HEARD, including: how his first ever interview was with The Greatest, an example of Ali's magnetism, life lessons from Al Davis, not shitting John Madden about talking sports with Richard Nixon, fallout from his infamous interview with Pete Rose, chatting with Ray Charles after 9/11 and watching him perform "America the Beautiful", why he admired his own father so much, and more.
November 24, 2020
#86 - Lou Diamond Phillips on THE TINDERBOX
Lou Diamond Phillips chats with Trey Elling about THE TINDERBOX: SOLDIER OF INDIRA, including: how this book was inspired by the Hans Christian Andersen story and his wife Yvonne's illustrations, receiving early support from LONGMIRE author Craig Johnson, having fun with wordplay, the key to a good story, and more. Plus, they play a game of "Internet Fact Check".
November 19, 2020
#85 - Ronen Givony on NOT FOR YOU
Ronen Givony chats with Trey Elling about NOT FOR YOU: PEARL JAM AND THE PRESENT TENSE, including: the unfathomable success Pearl Jam experienced in their first days and weeks as a band, when they became "political", the fight with Ticketmaster, critiques of most albums in their catalog, which of their three drummers is the best, and more.
November 17, 2020
#84 - André Gregory on THIS IS NOT MY MEMOIR
André Gregory chats with Trey Elling about THIS IS NOT MY MEMOIR, including: actor Errol Flynn helping to salvage his reputation as a kid, realizing he was a good storyteller, discovering a love for theater, maneuvering through East Berlin in the 1950s, putting on an interactive play that  was so wild that it caused a paralyzed woman to walk, the origins and difficulties of MY DINNER WITH ANDRÉ, why making it to 80 was like graduating college, and more.
November 13, 2020
#83 - John O. Brennan on UNDAUNTED
John O. Brennan chats with Trey Elling about UNDAUNTED: MY FIGHT AGAINST AMERICA'S ENEMIES, AT HOME AND ABROAD, including: two international trips that shaped his youth, (passed) lie detector tests and (failed) disguises early in his time with the CIA, his evolution within the Agency, the overall moral failings surrounding the Rendition, Detention, and Interrogation program; working for Barack Obama before and during his presidency, modernizing the Agency as CIA director, the Russian election hacking in 2016, and more.
November 10, 2020
#82 - Matthew McConaughey on GREENLIGHTS
Matthew McConaughey chats with Trey Elling about GREENLIGHTS, including: how Longview, TX taught him to dream, the importance of receiving validation from his dad when pursuing acting, his recollection of the 'naked bongos' arrest, why it's crucial for opposing viewpoints to meet in the middle, memories from TRUE DETECTIVE, what "The Eyes of Texas" song means to him, and more.
November 6, 2020
#81 - Katherine M. Gehl on THE POLITICS INDUSTRY
Katherine Gehl chats with Trey Elling about THE POLITICS INDUSTRY: HOW POLITICAL INNOVATION CAN BREAK PARTISAN GRIDLOCK AND SAVE OUR DEMOCRACY, including: how the current setup benefits a select few while neglecting many, an example from more than a century ago when the people had to wrest back democracy, and viable solutions to fix elections and the legislative process.
November 3, 2020
#80 - Témoris Grecko on KILLING THE STORY
Témoris Grecko chats with Trey Elling about KILLING THE STORY: JOURNALISTS RISKING THEIR LIVES TO UNCOVER THE TRUTH IN MEXICO, including: why 'cartel' and 'war on drugs' are misleading terms, the tragic stories of several journalists who were murdered for reporting the truth, how reporters' lives are not only threatened by organized gangs but also by government officials, and more.
October 29, 2020
#79 - Sam Acho on LET THE WORLD SEE YOU
Sam Acho chats with Trey Elling about LET THE WORLD SEE YOU: HOW TO BE REAL IN A WORLD FULL OF FAKES, including: how he went from a no-name recruit to receiving a scholarship offer from Pete Carroll and USC, why Calais Campbell is partially responsible for Sam's marriage, receiving free Chipotle for a year, the importance of mourning, what "The Eyes of Texas" means to him, and more.
October 28, 2020
#78 Annie Duke on HOW TO DECIDE
Annie Duke chats with Trey Elling about HOW TO DECIDE: SIMPLE TOOLS FOR MAKING BETTER CHOICES, including: why so many people who make decisions for a living have hard time explaining how, accounting for luck, when past experience misleads the decision maker, how hard decisions become easy, quit-to-itiveness, and more.
October 27, 2020
#77 - Roman Mars on THE 99% INVISIBLE CITY:
Roman Mars chats with Trey Elling about THE 99% INVISIBLE CITY: A FIELD GUIDE TO THE HIDDEN WORLD OF EVERYDAY DESIGN, including: why stairways to nowhere are named after a former pro baseball player, the origin and danger of padlocks placed on bridges out of love, how cats are the inspiration for road reflectors, the greatness of those dancing inflatable tubes, Austin's moontowers, international internet connections spanning the depths of our oceans, Busta Rhymes Island, and much more.
October 22, 2020
#76 Jocko Willink on DISCIPLINE EQUALS FREEDOM (Expanded)
Jocko Willink chats with Trey Elling about the expanded edition of DISCIPLINE EQUALS FREEDOM: FIELD MANUAL Mk1-MOD1, including a variety of no-nonsense advice for getting things done, and whether he indulges in donuts from time to time.
October 20, 2020
#75 - Steve Madden on THE COBBLER
Steve Cobbler chats with Trey Elling about THE COBBLER: HOW I DISRUPTED AN INDUSTRY, FELL FROM GRACE, AND CAME BACK STRONGER THAN EVER, including: what he learned from working his first jobs In shoes, why getting cut off was the best thing his dad ever did for him, how standup comedy inspired the 'Steve Madden' label, hooking up with Jordan Belfort, whether doing time in "Club Fed" was as cush as the nickname suggests, the many forms of creativity, and much more.
October 15, 2020
#74 - David Vine on THE UNITED STATES OF WAR
David Vine chats with Trey Elling about THE UNITED STATES OF WAR: A GLOBAL HISTORY OF AMERICA'S ENDLESS CONFLICTS, FROM COLUMBUS TO THE ISLAMIC STATE, which examines how US infrastructure around the globe, including bases, forts, and colonization, has enabled the United States to wage war and/or conflicts for all but eleven years since It came to be in 1776.
October 13, 2020
#73 - Ryan Holiday on LIVES OF THE STOICS
Ryan Holiday chats with Trey Elling about LIVES OF THE STOICS: THE ART OF LIVING FROM ZENO TO MARCUS AURELIUS, including: Chrysippus possibly dying the best way imaginable, Antipater evolving the Stoic idea of 'family', why Cicero receives his own chapter, Athenadorus' advice to political leaders for balancing the stresses of the job, Seneca's life-threatening conditions shaping his thoughts on death, Musonious' love of an audience that responded with silence, Epictetus' unique perspective on freedom, whether becoming Roman Emperor corrupted Marcus Aurelius, and more.
October 6, 2020
#72 - Kevin Davies on EDITING HUMANITY
Kevin Davies chats with Trey Elling about EDITING HUMANITY: THE CRISPR REVOLUTION AND THE NEW ERA OF GENOME EDITING, including: the difference between CRISPR and CRISPR genome editing, the evolution of CRISPR editing, the wild story behind (and fallout from) #CRISPRbabies in 2018, whether CRISPR-edited babies are truly on the horizon, George Church's attempt to resurrect the wooly mammoth, and more.
September 29, 2020
#71 - Jacob Goldstein on MONEY
NPR's Planet Money cohost Jacob Goldstein chats with Trey Elling about MONEY: THE TRUE STORY OF A MADE UP THING, including: why money is fiction AND fundamentally social, the origins of coins and paper money, Genghis Khan's grandson inventing inflation, Blaise Pascal's role in the formulation of insurance, how artificial light explains monetary progress, the gold standard's undoing, the rise of digital money, and more.
September 22, 2020
#70 - David Polfeldt on THE DREAM ARCHITECTS
David Polfeldt chats with Trey Elling about THE DREAM ARCHITECTS: ADVENTURES IN THE VIDEO GAME INDUSTRY, including: getting his start in making games, how an unwavering belief in respecting an artist's tools led him to Massive Entertainment, the importance of failure in evolving as a person, the trials and tribulations from making FAR CRY 3 and TOM CLANCY'S THE DIVISION, the mixed emotions of releasing a hugely successful game, and much more.
September 17, 2020
#69 - Glenn Kenny on MADE MEN
Glenn Kenny chats with Trey Elling about MADE MEN: THE MAKING OF GOODFELLAS, including: Joe Pesci's initial reluctance in playing Tommy, the origin of the 'how am I funny' scene, real-life bad guys In the secondary cast, how Michael Imperioli impressed Robert De Niro in a few days on the set as the Spider character, how Tommy's death disproves a supposed nobility within the mob, Martin Scorsese's love of picking music for his films, Barbara De Fina as the unsung hero in getting the film made, and much more.
September 15, 2020
#68 - Eric Weiner on THE SOCRATES EXPRESS
Eric Weiner chats with Trey Elling about THE SOCRATES EXPRESS: IN SEARCH OF LIFE LESSONS FROM DEAD PHILOSOPHERS, including: why GROUNDHOG DAY is the most philosophical movie of all time, what got Marcus Aurelius out of bed in the morning, how Socrates was like a child who questions everything (in a good way), learning to fight like Gandhi, and much more.
September 10, 2020
#67 - Art Bell on CONSTANT COMEDY
Art Bell chats with Trey Elling about CONSTANT COMEDY: HOW I STARTED COMEDY CENTRAL AND LOST MY SENSE OF HUMOR, including: discovering Mystery Science Theater 3000 and Jon Stewart's character, stumbling upon the name "Comedy Central," striking gold with State of the Union: Undressed while avoiding separate hosting catastrophes with Al Franken and Dennis Miller, unknowingly angering Bill Maher with an award-winning ad campaign for Politically Incorrect but getting an ironic last-laugh, and more.
September 8, 2020
#66 - Erin Brockovich on SUPERMAN'S NOT COMING
Erin Brockovich joins Trey Elling to discuss SUPERMAN'S NOT COMING: OUR NATIONAL WATER CRISIS AND WHAT WE THE PEOPLE CAN DO ABOUT IT, including: the importance of stick-to-itiveness in fighting for such a cause, how Richard Nixon shows that the issue of clean water goes beyond politics, empowering communities with Community Health Book, the heartbreaking-but-inspiring story of Jeremy and Janey Ensminger, and more.
September 3, 2020
#65 - Marion Nestle on LET'S ASK MARION
Marion Nestle joins Trey Elling to discuss LET'S ASK MARION: WHAT YOU NEED TO KNOW ABOUT THE POLITICS OF FOOD, NUTRITION, AND HEALTH, including: the rising cost of whole- versus ultra-processed foods, how agriculture, Wall Street, and food regulation fueled the US obesity epidemic in the early 1980s; why glyphosate is still allowed to be sprayed on crops, whether technology can help fix our food system, and more. 
September 2, 2020
#64 - Pluckrose & Lindsay on CYNICAL THEORIES
Helen Pluckrose and James Lindsay chat with Trey Elling about CYNICAL THEORIES: HOW ACTIVIST SCHOLARSHIP MADE EVERYTHING ABOUT RACE, GENDER, AND IDENTITY--AND WHY THIS HARMS EVERYBODY, including: the three major phases of postmodernism over the last 50 years, why the movement rejects science, the definition of 'Theory', the ins and outs of specific Theories, what will become of postmodernism by 2030, and more.
September 1, 2020
#63 - Niko Vorobyov on DOPEWORLD
Niko Vorobyov chat with Trey Elling about DOPEWORLD: ADVENTURES IN THE GLOBAL DRUG TRADE, including: writing on the subject as someone who sold and served time for dealing, hanging with Columbian guerilla soldiers, China's Opium Wars, the Japanese Yakuza, Cosa Nostra's role in the worldwide heroin trade, why El Chapo is revered in Sinaloa, the origins and hypocrisy of America's War on Drugs, how Portugal has fared since decriminalizing and legalizing all drugs, and more.
August 25, 2020
#62 - Bad Religion's Greg Graffin on DO WHAT YOU WANT
Frontman Greg Graffin chats with Trey Elling about DO WHAT YOU WANT: THE STORY OF BAD RELIGION, including: how the band got together, hearing their music on the radio for the first time, learning from the failure of Into the Unknown, the importance of the album, Suffer; playing in East Germany prior to the Berlin Wall coming down, the timelessness of Stranger Than Fiction, learning from Ric Ocasek and Todd Rundgren, what the band has yet to accomplish, whether the Bucks will win the NBA championship this year, and more.
August 18, 2020
#61 - Oliver Stone on CHASING THE LIGHT
Filmmaker Oliver Stone chats with Trey Elling about CHASING THE LIGHT: WRITING, DIRECTING, AND SURVIVING PLATOON, MIDNIGHT EXPRESS, SCARFACE, SALVADOR, AND THE MOVIE GAME, including: what his mom and dad were like growing up, fighting in Vietnam, learning from Scorsese at NYU, SCARFACE as an "inside-the-park homer," the chaos of making SALVADOR, the depths of PLATOON, his beloved 49ers, and more.
August 14, 2020
#60 - The Captain on F*CKING HISTORY
The man they call "The Captain" joins Trey Elling to share some stories from F*CKING HISTORY: 111 LESSONS YOU SHOULD HAVE LEARNED IN SCHOOL, including: Mark Twain's important contribution to the modern bra, what Graham crackers were originally intended for, the badass legacy of Stagecoach Mary, the unique method Thomas Edison and his wife used to trash-talk people at parties, nachos as an invention of desperation, research that found penguins aren't as innocent as you think, and more.
August 12, 2020
#59 - Stuart Ritchie on SCIENCE FICTIONS
Stuart Ritchie chats with Trey Elling about SCIENCE FICTIONS: HOW FRAUD, BIAS, NEGLIGENCE, AND HYPE UNDERMINE THE SEARCH FOR TRUTH, including: what publishing a scientific paper looks like in its purest form, the various ways that process breaks down, tips for reading scientific papers, spotting the good from bad, and much more.
August 4, 2020
#58 - Nicholson Baker on BASELESS
Nicholson Baker joins Trey Elling to discuss BASELESS: MY SEARCH FOR SECRETS IN THE RUINS OF THE FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT, including: a question about the Korean War that sparked this ten-year project, the genesis of the CIA and US military developing biological weapons and their rationale for doing so, cruel experiments performed on animals and whether they tested things on an unknowing America public, and much more.
July 22, 2020
#57 - Michael Shellenberger on APOCALYPSE NEVER
Environmental activist Michael Shellenberger chats with Trey Elling about APOCALYPSE NEVER: WHY ENVIRONMENTAL ALARMISM HURTS US ALL, including: why claims of mass death and destruction due to climate change lack scientific merit, the minimal impact of banning plastic straws and bags, economic development as a defense against climate change, nuclear power's value, many "green" organizations taking money from fossil fuel companies, and more.
July 16, 2020
#56 - Tom O'Neill on CHAOS
Tom O'Neill chats with Trey Elling about CHAOS, including: inconsistencies with the official narrative of murders committed by Manson and The Family, why lead prosecutor and HELTER SKELTER author Vincent Bugliosi can't be trusted, evidence of the CIA's fingerprints on the Tate house murder investigation as well as Manson's year forming the Family in San Francisco, and much more.
July 7, 2020
Matthew Schwartz chats with Trey Elling about CONFESSIONS OF AN INVESTIGATIVE REPORTER, including: interviewing David Berkowitz, aka Son of Sam, prior to his 2002 parole hearing, exposing a doctor who was fueling the opioid epidemic, a story that forced more accountability from airlines regarding pets checked as cargo, causing Hulk Hogan to cry like a baby, how Trump and Bernie Sanders both stiffed the Tucson PD, and more.
June 30, 2020
#54 - Bill Buford on DIRT
Bill Buford chats with Trey Elling about DIRT: ADVENTURES IN LYON AS A CHEF IN TRAINING, FATHER, AND SLEUTH LOOKING FOR THE SECRET OF FRENCH COOKING, including: what started him on this journey, how he ended up at a boulangerie for his first stage and why Bob the baker was so important in him better understanding Lyon, taking part in a pig-killing ritual and drinking its fresh blood, understanding Paul Bocuse's importance to Lyon, lessons learned in French cooking school and working in the kitchen at a Michelin-rated restaurant, four culinary deaths that affected him at the end of his French journey, and more.
June 24, 2020
#53 - Dan Cortese on STEP OFF!
Dan Cortese chats with Trey Elling about STEP OFF! MY JOURNEY FROM MIMBO TO MANHOOD, including: how the town OB-GYN fueled his first Rock n Jock highlight as a little leaguer, epiphanies, an epic Billy Idol story, receiving an invaluable compliment from George C. Scott, becoming a dad, and more.
June 16, 2020
#52 - Max Brooks on DEVOLUTION
Best-selling author Max Brooks chats with Trey Elling about DEVOLUTION: A FIRSTHAND ACCOUNT OF THE RAINIER SASQUATCH MASSACRE, including: waging political battles over the book's title, tedious research that included actually hand-crafting every weapon created by the characters, evolving through devolution, receiving feedback from "Survivorman" Les Stroud, a possible movie adaptation, and more.
June 10, 2020
#51 - Matt Ridley on HOW INNOVATION WORKS
Matt Ridley chats with Trey Elling about HOW INNOVATION WORKS: AND WHY IT FLOURISHES IN FREEDOM, including: the truth about Edison and the light bulb (00:33), innovating e-cigs (04:51), potatoes (08:33), luggage with wheels (10:15), and coffee (16:10); the dog as one of man's best innovations (14:04), whether China is becoming the global leader of innovation (21:47), and more.
June 3, 2020
#50 - Mikel Jollett on HOLLYWOOD PARK
The Airborne Toxic Event frontman Mikel Jollett chats with Trey Elling about HOLLYWOOD PARK: A MEMOIR, including: Escaping a cult he'd spent the first five years of his life in (01:03). Using different literary voices from childhood to adulthood (08:48). An introduction to his dad (11:21). The music that resonated with him as a kid (30:30). A chat with dad at Hollywood Park that helped a teenaged Mikel get it together (40:17). Receiving invaluable advice from The Cure's Robert Smith about "normal" (49:09). The last of many life-changing conversations between father and son (52:43). And at the end of the interview, we play the title track off of the corresponding album to the book, also called HOLLYWOOD PARK.
May 26, 2020
Filmmaker Barry Sonnenfeld joins the pod to share details from BARRY SONNENFELD, CALL YOUR MOTHER: MEMOIRS FROM A NEUROTIC FILMMAKER, including... He and his dad comparing eating his mom's cooking to cannibalism (4:16). His prowess as a leg wrestler, including dominating Kelly Ripa (7:08). Cousin Mike the Child Molester (10:17). His first paying gig in the film, as the camera guy on a nine-day porn shoot (20:32). Scaring a roomful of kids to tears on the set of THE ADDAMS FAMILY (52:13). Behind the scenes stories from GET SHORTY (56:38). Terrorizing Will Smith and his family with Tucks pads (1:14:51). Publicly arguing with Larry David about who's more neurotic (1:17:54).
May 19, 2020
#48 - Dave Rubin on DON'T BURN THIS BOOK
Dave Rubin joins Trey Elling to discuss DON'T BURN THIS BOOK: THINKING FOR YOURSELF IN AN AGE OF UNREASON, including: the difference between Catholic- and Jewish guilt, why a transgender Nazi helps explain the need for open dialogue, "woke" Thanksgivings, "catastrophizing," loving Clyde Drexler, and more.
May 12, 2020
#47 - Joan Ryan on INTANGIBLES
Acclaimed journalist and author Joan Ryan joins Trey Elling to discuss INTANGIBLES: UNLOCKING THE SCIENCE AND SOUL OF TEAM CHEMISTRY, including: defining team chemistry, oxytocin's role, the seven archetypes of good team chemistry, why Barry Bonds wasn't a clubhouse cancer in SF, the power of expectation, and more.
May 5, 2020
#46 - Erik Larson on THE SPLENDID AND THE VILE
Author Erik Larson chats with Trey Elling about THE SPLENDID AND THE VILE: A SAGA OF CHURCHILL, FAMILY, AND DEFIANCE DURING THE BLITZ, which takes a detailed look at the effects of Germany's aerial assaults on Great Britain during Winston Churchill's first year as prime minister. Larson also provides an update on the screen adaptation of THE DEVIL IN THE WHITE CITY.
April 28, 2020
#45 - Danny Trejo on TREJO'S TACOS
Actor and restauranteur Danny Trejo chats with Trey Elling about TREJO'S TACOS: RECIPES & STORIES FROM LA. The conversation includes: why he wanted to share the "secret" recipes from his Trejo's Tacos restaurants, the importance of food from his childhood and time in the pen, memories from the sets of HEAT and CON AIR, why he loves Austin, the time his boys mistook the "hook 'em Horns" hand signal for a gang sign on 6th Street, and more.
April 22, 2020
#44 - Howard Bloom on EINSTEIN, MICHAEL JACKSON & ME
Howard Bloom joins Trey Elling to share details from EINSTEIN, MICHAEL JACKSON & ME: A SEARCH FOR SOUL IN THE POWER PITS OF ROCK AND ROLL, including: reigniting Texas pride thru ZZ Top, learning from the gospel of Al Green, Ozzy Osbourne's explanation for biting off a bat's head, empowering Joan Jett, Bob Marley's brilliance, the magic of Prince, advising John Cougar Mellencamp to not shill ketchup with his music, Billy Joel's "Yoko," how "We Are the World" did the opposite of helping with famine in Africa, why Michael Jackson is the closest person to a saint he's ever met, and much more.  
April 14, 2020
#43 - John Tesh on RELENTLESS
Broadcaster and musician John Tesh joins Trey Elling to discuss RELENTLESS: UNLEASHING A LIFE OF PURPOSE, GRIT, AND FAITH. The conversation includes: how he learned to express his childhood curiosity in less mischievous ways, why he ended up living in a tent and working construction during what was supposed to be his senior year at NC State, what participatory journalism meant at its onset in the late 1970s and how he partook, why he was jeered by a fired up crowd of New Yorkers while interviewing Jimmy Connors after his US Open championship in 1982, how he came up with the renowned NBA on NBC theme song while covering the Tour de France, what happened before and during the 1994 concert at Red Rocks that launched his music career, why his last visit to a literal crackhouse is one of his favorite chapters in the book, and more.
March 26, 2020
#42 - Allison Moorer on BLOOD
Singer-songwriter Allison Moorer joins Trey Elling to discuss BLOOD: A MEMOIR. The book is based around 14-year-old Allison being awakened in the early morning hours of August 12, 1986 by the sounds of gunshots outside the family's home, as her dad killed her mom before turning the weapon on himself. This conversation includes events that led up to the tragedy, how she continues to heal as an adult, and her son's importance in her writing and with life.
March 19, 2020
#41 - Chuck Palahniuk on CONSIDER THIS
New York Times best-selling author Chuck Palahniuk joins Trey Elling to discuss CONSIDER THIS: MOMENTS IN MY WRITING LIFE AFTER WHICH EVERYTHING WAS DIFFERENT. The conversation includes why Chuck finally decided to put out a book that offered writing tips, the importance of establishing authority within a story, how his idea of "selling out" has changed over the years, a moment in Chuck's life after which everything was different, and more.
February 10, 2020
Former Navy SEAL and New York Times best-selling author Jocko Willink joins Trey Elling to discuss his book, LEADERSHIP STRATEGY AND TACTICS: FIELD MANUEL. The conversation includes: what separates this title from his other leadership books, the idea behind 'decentralized command', working for a bad boss, his counter-intuitive idea for how a leader should deal with a chronic complainer, why it's a good idea for a boss to occasionally help with menial tasks, and more.
January 21, 2020
#39 - Jonathan Rowson on THE MOVES THAT MATTER
Chess Grandmaster and three-time British Chess Champion Jonathan Rowson joins Trey Elling to discuss his book, THE MOVES THAT MATTER: A CHESS GRANDMASTER ON THE GAME OF LIFE. The conversation includes why chess is such a great metaphor for life, evolving from someone who is learning from failure to a person who is educating thru success, how teaching a child the game of chess can benefit him or her for life, whether computers are more of a positive or negative for chess, and more.
December 30, 2019
#38 - Aaron Franklin on FRANKLIN STEAK
Aaron Franklin of Franklin Barbecue joins Trey Elling & Brad Kellner to discuss his book, FRANKLIN STEAK: DRY AGED. LIVE FIRED. PURE BEEF. The conversation includes the value of a good butcher, various ways to cook a steak, when to salt before cooking, grass versus grain-fed beef, and more.
December 3, 2019
#37 - Admiral William McRaven on SEA STORIES
Retired US Navy admiral William McRaven joins Trey Elling to discuss his book, SEA STORIES: MY LIFE IN SPECIAL OPERATIONS. The conversation includes the worst part about "hell week" during his Navy SEAL training and why that experience remains so valuable, what it means to "serve", being face-to-face with Saddam Hussein following his capture, how he used the movie HOOSIERS to inspire his men before they took down Osama bin Laden, his time as chancellor of the University of Texas System, what his wife Georgeann means to him, and more.
December 3, 2019
#36 - Dave Asprey on SUPER HUMAN
Dave Asprey is a Silicon Valley tech entrepreneur, creator of Bulletproof Coffee, and New York Times best selling author. He joined Trey Elling to discuss his book, SUPER HUMAN: THE BULLETPROOF PLAN TO AGE BACKWARD AND MAYBE EVEN LIVE FOREVER. Dave and Trey discuss inflammation's role in aging, why eight hours is NOT the optimal amount of sleep, why cyclical ketosis is more beneficial than a constant state of ketosis, how small amounts of nicotine are considered smart drugs, and more!
December 3, 2019
#35 - Bob Stoops on NO EXCUSES
Former Oklahoma Sooners coach Bob Stoops joins Trey Elling to talk about some of the details from his book, NO EXCUSES: THE MAKING OF A HEAD COACH. The conversation includes the importance of his father, Ron, on his life in and out of football, how he got into coaching after graduating from Iowa, turning around an awful K-State program with Bill Snyder, highs and lows from his time in Norman, memories from Texas-OU, and more.
December 3, 2019
#34 - Adam Mansbach on F**K, NOW THERE ARE TWO OF YOU
Writer and humorist Adam Mansbach joins Trey Elling to discuss F**K, NOW THERE ARE TWO OF YOU, the third book in a series of children's books that started with GO THE F**K TO SLEEP. The conversation includes how the new book represents a version of what is going on in Adam's household, the process of writing a children's book, getting Larry David to do the audio book, and more.
December 3, 2019
#33 - Adrian Hayes on ONE MAN'S CLIMB
Record-breaking adventurer Adrian Hayes joins Trey Elling to discuss his book, ONE MAN'S CLIMB: A JOURNEY OF TRAUMA, TRAGEDY AND TRIUMPH ON K2. The conversation includes why Adrian would attempt something so dangerous, details of a failed first attempt that ended tragically, how his personal life impacted a willingness to give it another go, whether he made it to the top on a second try, and more.
November 20, 2019
#32 - Braylon Edwards on DOING IT MY WAY
Former football player Braylon Edwards joins Trey Elling to discuss his book, DOING IT MY WAY: MY OUTSPOKEN LIFE AS A MICHIGAN WOLVERINE, NFL RECEIVER, AND BEYOND. The conversation includes what first stoked his love for football, why wearing #1 at Michigan meant so much, memories from the Rose Bowl between the Longhorns and Wolverines in early 2005, his favorite NFL season, taking heat for tweeting criticisms about his alma mater, and more.
November 19, 2019
#31 - Barry Zito on CURVEBALL
Cy Young winner and two-time World Series champ Barry Zito joins Trey Elling to discuss some details from his book, CURVEBALL: HOW I FOUND TRUE FULFILLMENT AFTER CHASING FORTUNE AND FAME. The conversation includes his dad's impact on Barry's baseball life, how a rapid ascent to the bigs and early success with the A's affected him off the field, why signing the largest contract for a pitcher in MLB history affected him as a pitcher and a person, whether he cherishes his 2010 or 2012 World Series ring more, what helped him to overcome his insecurities, and more.
November 18, 2019
#30 - Ryan O'Callaghan on MY LIFE ON THE LINE
Former NFL offensive lineman Ryan O'Callaghan speaks with Trey Elling about his book, MY LIFE ON THE LINE: HOW THE NFL DAMN NEAR KILLED ME AND ENDED UP SAVING MY LIFE. The conversation includes how Ryan's sexuality affected him early on and throughout his football life, what allowed him to gain the courage to come out to family and friends, the cutthroat nature of the NFL as a business, why he and Aaron Rodgers are no longer friends, and more.
November 18, 2019
#29 - Chuck Klosterman on RAISED IN CAPTIVITY
Chuck Klosterman joins Trey Elling to talk about his collection of short stories, RAISED IN CAPTIVITY: FICTIONAL NONFICTION. The conversation includes the genesis of several of the book's tales, if he considers a storyline beyond what was written, whether Wikipedia bothers him, personal emoji usage, the keys to storytelling, and more.
November 16, 2019
#28 - Marty Smith on NEVER SETTLE
ESPN's Marty Smith joins Trey Elling & Brad Kellner to discuss details his new book, NEVER SETTLE, SPORTS, FAMILY, AND THE AMERICAN SOUL. The conversation includes Nick Saban's softer side, his family's role in the creation of Jack Daniel's whiskey, the three rules he lives his life by, and more.
November 15, 2019
#27 - David Epstein on RANGE
Author David Epstein joins Trey Elling to share details from his book, RANGE: WHY GENERALISTS TRIUMPH IN A SPECIALIZED WORLD. The conversation includes why parents should avoid forcing specialized skills upon their kids at a young age, the importance of the Flynn Effect, why failure is an important part of development, and more.
November 15, 2019
#26 - Bud Selig on FOR THE GOOD OF THE GAME
Bud Selig joins Trey Elling to share details from his book, FOR THE GOOD OF THE GAME: THE INSIDE STORY OF THE SURPRISING AND DRAMATIC TRANSFORMATION OF MAJOR LEAGUE BASEBALL. The conversation includes the value of his friendship with Henry Aaron, learning to put his personal wishes aside for the good of the game, whether he believes Bonds, Clemens, and others should be in Cooperstown, and more.
November 15, 2019
#25 - Scott Pelley on TRUTH WORTH TELLING
Award-winning journalist Scott Pelley joins Trey Elling & Brad Kellner to discuss details from his book, TRUTH WORTH TELLING: A REPORTER'S SEARCH FOR MEANING IN THE STORIES OF OUR TIME. This includes why he had to tell a lie to get into the business of truth-telling as a teenager in Lubbock, what the sport of buzkashi is and how it represents the people of Afghanistan, whether there is a solution to the broken two-party system that has failed the US, advice to young journalists, and more.
November 15, 2019
#24 - Adam Savage on EVERY TOOL'S A HAMMER
Former MYTHBUSTERS host Adam Savage joins Trey Elling & Brad Kellner to discuss his life story and crucial elements to successfully creating for a living, as told in his book, EVERY TOOL'S A HAMMER: LIFE IS WHAT YOU MAKE IT.
November 15, 2019
#23 - John Urschel on MIND AND MATTER
Former Baltimore Ravens' offensive lineman John Urschel joins Trey Elling & Brad Kellner to talk about his life as someone who loves math and was good enough at football to play in the NFL. John tells his full story in the book, MIND AND MATTER: A LIFE IN MATH AND FOOTBALL.
November 15, 2019
#22 - David Cone & Jack Curry on FULL COUNT
David Cone & Jack Curry join Trey Elling & Brad Kellner to discuss their new book about David's life in baseball and pitching philosophies as a student of the game, FULL COUNT: THE EDUCATION OF THE PITCHER. The conversation includes what allows David and Jack work so well with one another, why they started the book with Cone's perfect game in 1999, imparting knowledge learned from Greg Maddux, whether computers should call balls and strikes in today's game, and more.
November 15, 2019
#21 - Rick Reilly on COMMANDER IN CHEAT
Hall-of-fame sportswriter Rick Reilly joins Trey Elling to discuss COMMANDER IN CHEAT: HOW GOLF EXPLAINS TRUMP. The conversation includes why golf is such an accurate gauge of a person's character, examples of Donald Trump's dishonesty as a player and golf course owner, how an occurrence at one of his course inspired a CURB YOUR ENTHUSIASM storyline, and more.
November 14, 2019
#20 - Gianni Russo on HOLLYWOOD GODFATHER
Gianni Russo joins Trey Elling to share his life story, as told in the book, HOLLYWOOD GODFATHER: MY LIFE IN THE MOVIES AND THE MOB. That life includes: working for the Italian mafia, playing Carlo in the Godfather, hooking up with Marilyn Monroe, being face-to-face with an angry Pablo Escobar, punching out one of Siegfried and Roy's tigers, and more.
November 13, 2019
#19 - Laird Hamilton on LIFERIDER
Laird Hamilton joins Trey Elling & Brad Kellner to talk about his book, LIFERIDER: HEART, BODY, SOUL, AND LIFE BEYOND THE OCEAN. The conversation includes why fear is a healthy emotion in the grand scheme of things, what makes the heart our 'second brain', how a guy like BK can get into fitness, and more.
November 13, 2019
#18 - Howard Schultz on FROM THE GROUND UP
Former Starbucks CEO Howard Schultz joins Trey Elling & Brad Kellner to talk about his new book, FROM THE GROUND UP: A JOURNEY TO REIMAGINE THE PROMISE OF AMERICA. The conversation includes lessons learned and fond memories from his time owning the Seattle Supersonics, why he's considering running for president as an independent, and more.
November 13, 2019
#17 - Tony Dungy on SOUL OF A TEAM
Hall of Fame coach Tony Dungy joins Trey Elling & Brad Kellner to talk about his book, SOUL OF A TEAM: A MODERN-DAY FABLE FOR WINNING TEAMWORK. The conversation includes: the four tenets of 'SOUL', one of his favorite Chuck Knoll quotes, the most important quality for effective communication, and more.
November 13, 2019
#16 - Curtis Joseph on CUJO
Longtime NHL goalie Curtis Joseph joins Trey Elling & Brad Kellner to discuss his new book, CUJO: THE UNTOLD STORY OF MY LIFE ON AND OFF THE ICE. The conversation includes how the unique circumstances of his childhood home helped him long-term, some of his favorite memories from playing for 19 years in the NHL, what it would mean to be elected to the Hockey Hall of Fame, and more.
November 13, 2019
#15 - John Feinstein on QUARTERBACK
Journalist and New York Times best-selling author John Feinstein joins Trey Elling to discuss, QUARTERBACK: INSIDE THE MOST IMPORTANT POSITION IN THE NATIONAL FOOTBALL LEAGUE. The conversation includes: his goal in writing the book, why he chose to follow the 2017 seasons of Alex Smith, Joe Flacco, Andrew Luck, Ryan Fitzpatrick, and Doug Williams; why it's so difficult to predict whether a good college QB can replicate the success in the NFL, and more.
November 13, 2019
#14 - Bruce Arena on WHAT'S WRONG WITH US?
Former US Soccer coach Bruce Arena joins Trey Elling & Brad Kellner to discuss his new book, WHAT'S WRONG WITH US?. The conversation includes how he came up in the sport, where US Soccer went awry in failing to qualify for the 2018 World Cup, why he's rooting for Mexico, whether Austin is worthy of an MLS team, and more.
November 13, 2019
#13 - Anthony Cumia on PERMANENTLY SUSPENDED
Legendary radio broadcaster Anthony Cumia joins Trey Elling to share details from his book, PERMANENTLY SUSPENDED: THE RISE, FALL...AND RISE AGAIN OF RADIO'S MOST NOTORIOUS SHOCK JOCK. The conversation includes how he was bullied by Boomer Esiason when both were in elementary school, pushing the envelope during his time on the Opie and Anthony Show, whether a "shock jock" can make it on terrestrial radio in this hyper-sensitive climate, what his current program (The Anthony Cumia Show) entails, and more.
November 13, 2019
#12 - Rick Pitino on PITINO: MY STORY
Former college and pro basketball coach Rick Pitino joins Trey Elling & Brad Kellner to discuss details from his new book, PITINO: MY STORY. Not only does Pitino tell some stories from his early days in coaching, but he defends himself in the aftermath of the corruption scandal that engulfed college hoops during the 2018-19 season and cost him his job at Louisville.
November 12, 2019
#11 - Merril Hoge on BRAINWASHED
Former NFL running back Merril Hoge joins Trey Elling to discuss details from his new book, BRAINWASHED: THE BAD SCIENCE BEHIND CTE AND THE PLOT TO DESTROY FOOTBALL.
November 12, 2019
#10 - Marcellus Wiley on NEVER SHUT UP
Former NFL all-pro defensive lineman and current Fox Sports analyst Marcellus Wiley joins Trey Elling to share details from his book, NEVER SHUT UP: THE LIFE, OPINIONS, AND UNEXPECTED ADVENTURES OF AN NFL OUTLIER. The conversation includes some blunt advice his grandma shared with him as a kid growing up in south central Los Angeles, his reaction to seeing a bagel for the first time as a freshman at Columbia University in New York, when he realized he could make it in the NFL, "Toradol Tuesdays", and more.
November 12, 2019
#9 - Verne Lundquist on PLAY BY PLAY
Verne Lundquist joins Trey Elling & Brad Kellner to share some of the stories from his life and hall-of-fame career in broadcasting, as told in the new book, PLAY BY PLAY: CALLING THE WILDEST GAME IN SPORTS--FROM SEC FOOTBALL TO COLLEGE BASKETBALL, THE MASTERS,  AND MORE.
November 10, 2019
#8 - Eddie Dominguez on BASEBALL COP
Team-sponsored human trafficking. Scouts stealing signing bonus money from international prospects. Gambling on baseball. Blatant PED distribution and usage. These were among the egregious activities probed by Eddie Dominguez with MLB's Department of Investigations from 2008-2014, much of it ignored or bluntly shut down by top baseball executives, including Rob Manfred. Eddie documented these experiences in the new book, BASEBALL COP: THE DARK SIDE OF AMERICA'S PASTIME. And he joined Trey Elling to share some of the details, including Manfred and Bud Selig's insistence on bringing down A-Rod for reasons that go beyond protecting the integrity of the game.
November 8, 2019
Hollywood icon William Shatner joins Trey Elling & Brad Kellner to discuss his new book, LIVE LONG AND...WHAT I'VE LEARNED ALONG THE WAY. The conversation includes how he has felt a certain loneliness since childhood, why he soiled himself during opening night on Broadway for his one-man show, what people can expect from his upcoming Christmas album, whether STAR TREK's continued popularity ever surprises him, and more.
November 8, 2019
#6 - Adam Schefter on THE MAN I NEVER MET
ESPN's NFL insider Adam Schefter takes a break from pro football to discuss his new book with Trey Elling & Brad Kellner. THE MAN I NEVER MET: A MEMOIR chronicles Schefter's life and relationship with his wife, Sharri, who lost her husband Joe Maio in the World Trade Center attacks on September 11th.
November 7, 2019
Batting versus a 60-year-old Satchel Paige. Becoming the final player to collect s hit off of Sandy Koufax. Waiting in the hole when Hank Aaron passed Babe Ruth in homers. Having his manager in Japan deride is naked genitals. These are just some of the stories from the new book, DAVEY JOHNSON: MY WILD RIDE IN BASEBALL AND BEYOND. The former All Star player and 15-year MLB manager, including as skipper of the '86 Mets, joins Trey Elling & Brad Kellner to discuss those items and more.
November 7, 2019
#4 - Rashad Jennings on THE 'IF' IN LIFE
Former NFL running back Rashad Jennings joins Trey Elling & Brad Kellner to share his amazing life story, as told thru the new book, THE 'IF' IN LIFE. The conversation includes the unbelievable result of his first action of varsity football, the epiphanous relationship with his dad that eventually went from bad to good, how he won Dancing With The Stars, and more.
November 7, 2019
#3 - Keith Hernandez on I'M KEITH HERNANDEZ
Former NL MVP and two-time World Series champ Keith Hernandez joins Trey Elling and Brad Kellner to talk about his book, I'M KEITH HERNANDEZ. The conversation includes some of his favorite memories on the diamond, how tornadoes and cockfights were part of his minor league experience in Tulsa, what led him into the broadcasting booth, why his brother Gary is such an important figure in his life, and more.
November 7, 2019
#2 - Armen Keteyian on TIGER WOODS
Award-winning journalist Armen Keteyian joins Trey Elling and his radio co-host Brad Kellner to discuss his new Tiger Woods biography, also titled TIGER WOODS, co-authored with Jeff Benedict. Keteyian talks about the initial inspiration for tackling the project, challenges they faced when gathering info, Earl Woods' influence on his son, how and why Tiger's attitude toward the game and his peers changed in the last year, and more.
November 7, 2019
#1 - Christine Aschwanden on GOOD TO GO
Christine Aschwanden is the former lead science writer at FiveThirtyEight and author of the book, GOOD TO GO: WHAT THE ATHLETE IN ALL OF US CAN LEARN FROM THE STRANGE SCIENCE OF RECOVERY. Christie speaks with Trey Elling about whether beer helps marathoners in recovery, myths about hydration, the importance of sleep to recovery, and more!
April 8, 2019