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The Boyce of Reason

The Boyce of Reason

By Benjamin Boyce
Here are the interviews from my YouTube channel, stripped of all distracting visuals. Topics range from the profound to the passé.

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74 | Free Range Discourse with the Future Thinkers Euvie Ivanova and Mike Gilliland

The Boyce of Reason

304 | Missteps of Modern Feminism
Alex Kaschuta (@kaschuta on twitter) speaks to me about her life as a woman, and how the promises of liberal feminism left her feeling disconnected from a fulfilling life. Support this channel: Follow me on twitter @BenjaminABoyce
September 21, 2020
303 | Something Wokéd This Way Comes, with Wokal Distance
I interview philosopher and theologian @wokal_distance, composer of sick twitter threads, about the principals of woke social justice activism, why we should be concerned about it, and what we can do to combat its further encroachment into our private and public institutions. Support this channel:  
September 14, 2020
302 | Breaking Through Black & White Thinking, with Desi-Rae
Desi-Rae is a fellow YouTube content creator and Jamaican immigrant who provides a refreshing, rational take on current events and social movements. In this conversation we explore her views of the Black Lives Matter movement, her research into the Soviet Revolution, and what the core values are that animate her reasoning. Watch her videos at:   Finder her on twitter: @desiraethinking    Support this channel:   Follow me on twitter @BenjaminABoyce
September 12, 2020
301 | Whistleblowing on Woke Government, with Casey Petersen
MUST WATCH VIDEO: More detailed story: Follow Casey on Twitter @CaseyAPetersen   Support this channel:   Follow me on twitter @BenjaminABoyce
September 1, 2020
268 | Falsifying Wokeness, with King Crocoduck
Support this channel:   King Crocoduck’s Channel:   Science Wars:   Woke Fragility:   Follow me on twitter @BenjaminABoyce
August 30, 2020
267 | Art Like An Egyptian, with Professor Lara Ayad
Lara Ayad is a professor of Art History at Skidmore College, specializing in Egyptian and Aftrian art. In this conversation we talk about the ways in which representation shapes society, and how it helps us understand ourselves and other humans. Find her work: Support this channel
August 29, 2020
266 | The Rise of Unreason in Academia, with Dr. James Cantor, PhD
Additional information about @JamesCantorPhD 's cancelation: Short video: Article: Support this channel:
August 26, 2020
265 | Evergreen Protests Through a Sociological Lens, with Shaun Cammack
Shaun Cammack recently earned his Masters in Sociology from the University of Chicago. His thesis concentrated on the civil unrest at The Evergreen State College in the spring of 2017—which, if you are aware of my youtube channel, you will know I'm somewhat concerned with, myself. Shaun's Masters Thesis:   Follow Shaun on Twitter @shaunjcammack   Support this channel:   Follow me on twitter @BenjaminABoyce
August 22, 2020
264 | Decoding the Gender Matrix, with Helen Joyce
Helen Joyce (@HJoyceGender) is an editor for The Economist and studied critic of the gender ideology that is so impacting young people today. In this conversation we discuss her research into gender ideology for her forthcoming book, and also touch upon what a more stable and constructive discussion around gender and sex might look like. Support this podcast
August 17, 2020
263 | Detrans Stories: Taking the Reins, with Chiara
A year and a half ago, I sat down with @chiaracanaan to speak about her obsession with and transition from of the tumblr-trans worldview. She returns to update us on her journey—and to share the wisdom she's learned from horses. Follow her on twitter @chiaracanaan And myself @BenjaminABoyce Support this channel:
August 15, 2020
262 | The Phantom Moderate: Left Coast Life, with Christopher Rufo
Christopher Rufo (@realchrisrufo) is a journalist and documentarian exposing the ways that tolerance is undoing west coast cities. Follow Christopher on twitter for breaking stories @realchrisrufo   Watch his documentaries at   Support this channel:   Follow me on twitter @BenjaminABoyce
August 12, 2020
261 | Truths About Transition, with Buck Angel
Buck Angel (@BuckAngel) is a world-renown transman. In this interview we speak about his experiences growing up, his transition, and his current quest to reshape the dialogue around transsexualism to be more honest, better researched, and mature.   His website for transmen's health:   Support this channel:
August 6, 2020
260 | How Antiracism Disempowers, with Professor Erec Smith
I speak with Professor Erec Smith (@Rhetors_of_York) about how the field of rhetoric is being taken over by a loud minority which has no problem silencing a black man for the cause of antiracism. We also speak about his experience with racism and why critical thinking is his jam. Erec's articles:   Erec's book:   Support this channel:
August 5, 2020
259 | Detrans Stories: Helena, The Problematic
Helena joins me for the third time to discussion the embattled detrans online communities, her emotional development and the transgender ideology's role in her decision, and what makes letish communities prone to cancel culture. Find her on twitter @mentalhellcat Support this channel
August 4, 2020
258 | A More Perfect Transition: Trans Health Advocacy, with Corinna Cohn
Corinna Cohn speaks to me about the need for better care, research, and information available to transitioning or transition-questioning patients. Find out more about her advocacy group at Support this channel:
July 29, 2020
257 | Children's Rights, Trans Realities with Scott Newgent
Scott Newgent (@NewgentTGA) is a transman who is very concerned that the current fast-track of childhood medical transition is going to lead to some dire and unintended consequences.  Find out more on Scott's Work:   Find him on twitter @NewgentTGA  Support this channel:
July 27, 2020
256 | Cops, Crime, & Sociology with Roderick Graham
Roderick Graham (@RoderickGraham) is an assistant professor of Sociology—specifically of the criminology sort. He weighs in on the recent discussions on police, discrimination, and race, with a decidedly nuanced point of view. Find him on youtube: Support this channel:
July 24, 2020
255 | The Diversity Dilemma, with Cedrick-Michael Simmons
Cedrick-Michael Simmons is a doctoral fellow and instructor at Ithaca college, studying the outcomes of Diversity training in higher ed and the corporate sector. We speak about the limits of current "Anti-Racist" training and how they play more into the hands of upper management and against common interests, despite its claims to solve deep seated human problems. Learn more about Class Unity: And follow him on twitter: @nomoreracecraft If you've enjoyed this program, consider tipping at
July 24, 2020
254 | Speech, Privacy, Capital, with Sarah Downey
@SarahADowney and I speak about the core liberal principles that are being tested in the era of cancel culture—and how capital, wisely conceived, still has much work to do to lift up the marginalized. Support this channel:
July 17, 2020
253 | End of Days Survivor's Guide, with Jonathan Pageau & Paul Vander Klay
Jonathan Pageau and Paul Vander Klay discuss with me the existential crisis occurring in popular—and actual—culture. Paul's Channel:   Jonathan's Channel: Tip Jar:
July 15, 2020
252 | Sundown Town Stories, with Adrian Lee Oliver
Adrian (@AdrianLeeOliver) speaks about his childhood growing up as a black foster kid in rural Kentucky; and what troubles him about current dialogue around race. Find his twitter thread archived here: support this channel:
July 13, 2020
251 | Modeling a Minority Opinion, with @EricsElectrons
Eric (@EricsElectrons on twitter and instagram) is a believer in critical thinking based on evidence. We talk about why that's not so fashionable, and how to participate in honest, rigorous discussion in the face of pressure to conform to emotional narratives. Support this podcast
July 9, 2020
250 | Why "White Fragility" Is Such An Ego Trip, with Christopher Paslay
Christopher Paslay is an english teacher and coach at a vocational high school in Philadelphia. He sees "anti-racist" doctrine as essentially divisive and counter to the progress of Civil Rights and racial harmony. In this discussion we talk about the goals, means, and values that animate Robin Diangelo's seminal texts, and discuss how three are different from what have so far been useful for a multicultural society. Links to Christopher's work: Support this channel:
July 8, 2020
249 | Girlhood, Interrupted: Teen Mental Health & the Transgender Trend, with Abigail Shrier
Abigail Shrier (@AbigailShrier) is an author and frequent contributor to the Wall Street Journal. Her book, Irreversible Damage is—I kid you not—excellently composed and a very timely investigation into how young women are being swept up in an ideology that ferries them toward irreversible body modification. Find her book wherever you can—I won't link to major book stores here because they've been sketchy with their treatment of her work.   Support this channel:
July 4, 2020
248 | Organization Psychology & The Woke Encroachment, with Dr. Karlyn Borysenko
Dr. Borysenko is an organizational psychologist and neophyte to the internet discourse arena. In this discussion, we cover mindfulness practices, corporate and business culture, and the ways in which hyper vigilant far leftism is eroding productivity and community. Follow her on twitter @DrKarlynB, on Parler @Karlyn, and on youtube at Support this channel:
July 1, 2020
247 | What We Do With The Shadows, with Jungian Therapist Anderson Todd
Anderson Todd is a Jungian therapist and and instructor at the University of Toronto. This conversation is so wanderlusty that I'm just not gonna try to summarize it. Find his youtube channel here: Support this podcast via
June 24, 2020
246 | A Crash Course in Black U.S. History, with John Wood Jr.
John R. Wood Jr. (@JohnRWoodJr) is a founding member of The Braver Angels Project, a bipartisan think tank focused on bringing Red and Blue (Republican and Democrat) Americans together, to work toward a stable and lasting society. In this episode, John details the history of Black Americans, and answers why he thinks a reaffirmation of America's founding values—and not its dissolution—is the path forward. Find his work at support this channel:
June 18, 2020
245 | Surviving a Moral Panic, with Lisa Marchiano, Jungian Analyst
Infrequent guest Lisa Marchiano joins me to speak about current activism and uprising through a Jungian lens. She is a co-host of This Jungian Life (a brilliant listen!) and runs a private practice of her own. Find her work at and on twitter @LisaMarchiano Support this channel:
June 17, 2020
244 | America's New Religion, with James Lindsay & Mike Nayna
Kneeling, washing of feet, public confessions, racism as original sin... many aspects of the current moral code are evocative of religious rites and theological doctrine. Where did these ideas come from? What is their eventual effect? James Lindsay, Mike Nayna, and myself have been studying these phenomena before they went mainstream, and in this conversation we detail the origins and outcomes of the New American Religion that calls itself "antiracism." James' work: Mike's work: Support this channel:
June 13, 2020
243 | Inoculation to Indoctrination: Exploring Cult Techniques with Chris Shelton
Chris Shelton (@sheltondesigner) is an ex-Scientologist who has been spending the last few years detailing how cults operate. In this conversation we use his research to explore how the current moral climate is allowing opportunists to gain control of people's thoughts and actions. Find his work at Support this podcast: Follow me on twitter @BenjaminABoyce
June 11, 2020
242 | Chloé Valdary: Collective Guilt, Common Pride
Chloé Valdary (@cvaldary) is the author of The Theory of Enchantment education course and an all around talented dame. We speak about her take on the black American experience, and how she is optimistic that the current civil unrest will lead to lasting change. We talk our way through the hitches and snags toward a better country and world—if only our common values can win out over our all too common temptations.  Find her work on Support this channel:
June 3, 2020
241 | Bret Weinstein: Three Years After the Protest
In the spring of 2017, two weeks before I was to graduate from The Evergreen State College, a series of protests erupted on campus, ostensibly regarding racial inequities. Students blockaded buildings, rounded up staff and faculty, verbally harassed anyone who disagreed or questioned their methods, took administration hostage, and went so far as to roam the campus with baseball bats, in an extracurricular attempt to "community police." The first individual they targeted was Evolutionary Biology Professor Bret Weinstein, who had been arguing against certain measures the college was taking to make anti-racism the central focus of collegiate life. And although the students never meant him to be the focus or their unrest, he publicly called out their actions, and became the lightning rod that grounded the events in terms of academic freedom, toxic progressivism, and what it meant, in 2017, to be or to not be a racist. In this episode, Bret and I discuss the lessons to be derived from this protest. If you are interested in learning more, I have a 24 episode video series detailing these events, found here: Support this podcast:
May 26, 2020
240 | Enlightenment Virtues & Vices, with Carl Benjamin
Carl Benjamin (also known as Sargon of Akkad) is an intellectual public figure who got his start in mid-2010's youtube. We explore the tensions between left and right ideologies, and the ethics that are driving modern day political discourse. Support this channel:
May 16, 2020
239 | Courage & Detransition, with Chris (Male)
Support this channel: In this episode I speak with Chris, from Minnesota. He shares his history of hardships—from undiagnosed autism, to eating disorders, bipolar disorder, and his experience was Hormone Replacement Therapy. His resilience of spirit and gentlekindness are evinced in this deeply personal and honest story. Find him on twitter at @elderago
May 10, 2020
238 | Having a Moment with Claire Graham
Support this channel:   Claire and I speak about activism, gender, and trying not to be trying not to offend people all the time.   Read Claire's thoughts on intersex conditions, and life in general, at
May 8, 2020
237 | Two if by Prime: Amazon's Logistic Revolution, with Hannah the Logistics Lady
Wherein I speak with a logistics professional about the current state of the economy, amazon's rise to prominence, and how we can shape the future... of shopping. Support this channel:   Follow me on twitter @BenjaminABoyce
April 13, 2020
236 | Rapid Onset Gender Dysphoria: A Primer | with Lisa Littman and Sasha Ayad
Support this channel:   Further resources on Lisa Littman's research:   “Parent reports of adolescents and young adults perceived to show signs of a rapid onset of gender dysphoria”, is available open access:   Letter to the Editor describing the methodology used in research articles that support (or are consistent with) the gender-identity affirming approach:   Follow me on twitter @BenjaminABoyce
April 10, 2020
235 | Mackenzie's Detransition Story
Mackenzie's YouTube channel:   Support this channel:   Follow me on twitter @BenjaminABoyce
April 4, 2020
234 | Quarantine Conversations, with Katie Herzog
Katie Herzog contains multitudes, which can be found at these websites:   Support this channel:  Follow me on twitter @BenjaminABoyce
April 1, 2020
233 | Comedy & Catastrophe, with Andrew Doyle
​ @AndrewDoyle_com  joins me for another parlay on current and recurrent events.   Support this channel:
March 30, 2020
232 | Suppose Sex Is Real... with Colin Wright
Colin (@SwipeWright) Wright is a scientist and author who cares about what's real. There turns out to be a surprising number of people who oppose him. Tip jar:
March 27, 2020
231 | A Straight Talking Gay Man, with Arty Morty
I highly recommend Arty's channel:   Support this channel:  Follow me on twitter @BenjaminABoyce
March 23, 2020
230 | Quarantine Conversation: with Posie Parker
Posie Parker joins me again to muse about men, women, and what lies between—or the lies of the between? Find her videos at: Support this channel: Follow me on twitter @BenjaminABoyce
March 23, 2020
229 | Lucifer's Wager, with Bo Winegard
Bo Winegard (@EPoe187) is a social scientist who recently got pushed out of academia by trollish wokescolds for thinking honestly through the world of ideas. In this conversation we explore the tensions between progressivism and conservativism, rebellion and the status quo. Read his work and his story on Quillette here: Support this channel:
March 19, 2020
228 | Engendering an Authentic Self, with Stella O'Malley
Stella O'Malley (@stellaomalley3) is an author, speaker, psychologist, and unapologetic Irish lass. In this discussion, she speaks about her severe childhood gender dysphoria and how she embraced her womanhood midway through her teenage years. She also addresses her concerns with the current Western obsession with identity and diagnosis that are producing more roadblocks than inroads for young people, on their journey toward self discovery. Find her excellent podcast with Lisa Marchiano, The Secrets of the Motherworld at And her extensive canon of thought at Support this podcast via my tip jar located at
March 17, 2020
227 | Gendered Enough: A Detrans Story with Leigh
After a gender non-conformist childhood, Leigh decided to transition at 24. Then, at 30, she decided to kick testosterone and accept her identity as a woman. In this interview, she explains her experiences and reasons for transitioning and desisting. Her Youtube Channel:   Support this channel:   Follow me on twitter @BenjaminABoyce
March 16, 2020
226 | A Woman Without Feminism, with Claire Graham
Support this channel:  Claire Graham is a teacher and intersex advocate working in the UK. In this chat, she chimes in on her dissociation from feminist associations, and what sort of person wants to be inside a cause, and what sort of person doesn't.  Follow me on twitter @BenjaminABoyce
March 16, 2020
225 | The Limits of Feminism, with Belinda Brown
I stumbled upon Belinda Brown last weekend when she delivered some criticism to a group of feminists meeting for International Women's Day. Admiring her pluck, I wanted to afford her the opportunity to flesh out her thoughts and subject them to critical inquiry and biographical context. Follow her on twitter @bbhippopotamus Support this channel (after you've seen to it you and your loved ones are well set during this pandemic season):
March 14, 2020
224 | Interview with a Woman
Societal expectations, sexual objectification, eating disorders, gender stereotypes... I speak with a woman about the tropes of feminism, and together we move the discussion away from the political and deeper into the personal. Follow this female on twitter: @radley_ms And me @BenjaminABoyce Support this channel:
March 5, 2020
223 | The Problematization of Everything, with Meghan Daum
Meghan Daum (@meghan_daum) is a prolific columnist for a wide array of digital and print publications. In this interview, we speak about defying expectations and denying self-censorship. Her new book, The Problem with Everything, is available in audio, ebook, and print format and can be ordered through her website:   Support this channel:   Follow me on twitter @BenjaminABoyce
February 29, 2020
222 | New Discourses, with James Lindsay
James "@ConceptualJames" Lindsay is an author and speaker who has been shining the light on inconsistencies and vicissitudes of PostModern Activism and Critical Theory. He's launching a new platform: that lays out in encyclopedic detail (quite literally, in fact) how the various Grievance Studies and their core concepts operate. This is a wide ranging discussion—as it always is with James!  Support this channel:
February 25, 2020
221 | Canadian Government Suppresses Impact Reports of Bill C-16
Jennifer Anne (twitter: @JenniferAnne_s) has been working these last few months to get the Canadian Government to release analytics about the impact and outcomes of C-16. This has not been an easy task, and she needs more Canadians' help to make it happen:   Find the e-petition here:   More information:     Support this channel:
February 19, 2020
220 | Outwitting Wokeness, with Andrew Doyle
Andrew Doyle (@andrewdoyle_com) is the architect of the Titania McGrath (@TitaniaMcGrath) phenomenon. But who is the man behind Twitter's most ruthless bigotphobe? In this interview we speak about his passion for gay 16th century poetry, pub playwriting, and if (or, rather, when) my cat is going to eat me.   Read Titania's memoirs:   Support this channel:   Follow me on twitter @BenjaminABoyce
February 16, 2020
219 | Escaping Abuse, Evolving Agency, with Lara
Lara speaks candidly about abusive relationships, sex work, and motherhood.  Follow her at @LaraAdamsMille1 on Twitter.    Support this channel:   Follow me on twitter @BenjaminABoyce
February 14, 2020
Journalism, Gender, & Justice | with Helen Joyce
Helen Joyce (@HJoyceGender) is The Economist's finance editor, and is currently on sabbatical to focus on a book about gender-identity ideology.    Support this channel:
February 7, 2020
The Cancel Culture Club | with Graham Linehan
Graham Linehan (@Glinner) returns to talk about being the mob’s target, and whether he’s been swept up in similar groupthink.   Support this channel: Follow me on twitter @BenjaminABoyce 
February 1, 2020
Consider the Gender | with Debbie Hayton, Sensible Trans-Woman
Debbie Hayton is a normal person who has a normal job helping her society function. She is also a transsexual—and has over the past few years found it necessary to speak out against the extreme views that have taken over the trans discussion.   Find her on Twitter (so long as she hasn't been banned for... making too much sense): @DebbieHayton   Support this channel:   Follow me on Twitter @BenjaminABoyce 
January 29, 2020
Renegotiating Womanhood | A Detrans Story with Laura
Meet Laura (@FlohrFritz), who spent her young adulthood in anarchist and antifa groups, transitioning from female to male, and then taking a turn into motherhood, science, and philosophy. Laura’s YouTube:   Part of a series:   Support this channel:
January 21, 2020
What the Hormones Didn't Change | a Detrans Story with Watson
Watson is a Scottish woman who underwent hormonal and surgical transition over the course of half a decade. Yet after each successive transition, she realized her underlining issues were not being resolved. She has now turned away from transition, and is speaking about her journey on YouTube and Twitter. Follow her @ImWatson91. Support this podcast: Follow me on Twitter @BenjaminABoyce
January 14, 2020
Trauma & Transition | with Rachel
A deeply personal interview with a young woman about her childhood trauma, transition, detransition—and the long road to self-acceptance. Part of a series:   Find Rachel on Twitter @HabituallyFemme   And me @BenjaminABoyce   Support this channel:
January 7, 2020
Growing Out of GroupThink | with Helena
Helena (@lacroicsz) is a member of the Pique Resilience Project, a group of detransitioned women who are trying to spread awareness about quality of care issues with the American medical industry's treatment of trans identified youth.    Find out more about the Pique Resilience Project at:    Follow me on twitter @BenjaminABoyce  Donations:
January 4, 2020
Unity and Disunity in the LGBT Community | with Arielle Scarcella
​ @ArielleScarcella has been on YouTube discussing gender, sexuality, and LGBT culture for over a decade now. I ask her what she's learned and how things have changed.  Find her work at:    Follow me on twitter @BenjaminABoyce  Support this channel:
January 2, 2020
Banned but not Broken | with GNC_Centric
Contact Ben at  Society For Evidence Based Gender Medicine:  Gender Care Consumer Advocacy Network:  Meghan Murphy's talk in the Toronto library:  Follow me on twitter @BenjaminABoyce Tips welcome:
December 31, 2019
Coercive Tolerance | with Sasha Ayad
Sasha Ayad is a Licensed Professional Counselor specializing in teen therapy. Her website is and her twitter handle is @SashaLPC.   Follow me on twitter @BenjaminABoyce  Support this channel:
December 21, 2019
Transgender & Right-of-Center | with Mars
Mars (@_Mars_F) is a transman in the midwest who is more or less fed up with the "trainings" that are being mandated around his identity. He's also the sort of lad who I'd be gaming with constantly if we lived within a certain proximity, and I had the time to game with constantly. Check out his podcast: On twitter at @_Mars_F   Follow me on twitter @BenjaminABoyce  Support this channel:
December 20, 2019
Stephen Hicks: Postmodernism and Its Discontents
Dr. Stephen Hicks is a professor and lecturer who has been speaking about the origins and outcomes of Postmodernism for over 20 years. In this discussion, provided by the the new media platform thinkspot, we explore the Evergreen Protests in the light of intellectual trends dating from the Enlightenment.   Follow him on twitter @SRCHicks    And me @BenjaminABoyce  tip jar:
December 13, 2019
Maturing into Masculinity | with Logan McCree
Logan McCree (Philip Tanzer) speaks to me about his pursuit of self-knowledge through male sexuality and gender experimentation. Somewhat NSFW, yet a very insightful glimpse into one man's journey. Follow him on twitter @LoganMcCree777 And me @BenjaminABoyce Tips very much appreciated:
December 5, 2019
Germany's Free Speech Problems | with Logan McCree
Logan McCree (@LoganMcCree777) is a German artist and Men's Rights Activist living in Scotland. He responded to a brief youtube video I made about a clip of Angela Merkel, the German Chancellor, seeming to argue that restricting speech is the path to insure a free Germany. I was unaware of the complex issues of the German politic, and so I invited Logan on to fill me in on the situation. This was a very informative talk, and brings to light the problems with establishing a political Overton Window, where the lines around acceptable discourse keep alienating more and more the populace, whose voices aren't being heard. Check out Logan's art at Support this channel via
December 3, 2019
Posie Parker: Sticking Up for Sex Differences
Part of a series: Posie Parker is an advocate for women's rights who is roundly derided by activists of all stripes. She's been kicked off every platform that you have an app for, and even interviews with her get taken down. She's not that scary, though—unless you have an irrational fear of opinionated women. Learn more about her here: Support this channel via:
November 26, 2019
Masculine Actualities, Feminine Possibilities | with Jonathan Pageau
Jonathan Pageau is somewhat of a recurring guest at this point. He's an icon carver and master of symbolic interpretation. Find his videos at Support this channel via
November 22, 2019
Collateral Cancelation | with John Sonmez
John Sonmez is a tech author and personal development coach. A few weeks back he got mixed up in a social media mobbing, with hefty personal cost. We speak about the pandemic of "cancel culture" and victimhood mentality, and explore the stoic counter frame of reference. Here are some links to John's work. (And you can support my channel here.)
November 20, 2019
The State of College Debate | with Michael Moreno
These videos of Michaels might be necessary context for this discussion: Follow him on twitter @Michaelmoreno2k And me @BenjaminABoyce Support for this podcast can be given at
October 30, 2019
74 | Free Range Discourse with the Future Thinkers Euvie Ivanova and Mike Gilliland
Mike Gilliland and Euvie Ivanova run – a multimedia workshop focusing on personal and spiritual development. We’d been chatting over the course of the summer, and decided one day to hit record.  Follow me on twitter @BenjaminABoyce Support this channel:
September 12, 2019
73 | Defense Lawyer Speaks About Ramifications of the Yaniv Case
Exploring the legal origins and ramifications of Yaniv's human rights complaint against small business owners who refused him pubic service, with John Carpay, the lawyer working on the defense. Follow me on twitter: @BenjaminABoyce Support this channel:
August 2, 2019
72 | Blaire White: Persona and Personality
Blaire white is a conservative speaker and trans person who has experienced rapid success on youtube and other platforms. In this interview, we discuss her experience of being trans, and translating herself into a social media influencer. Her channel: Follow me on twitter @BenjaminABoyce Support this channel:
July 30, 2019
71 | Civility and Citizenship with Philosopher Steven Clouse
Steven Clouse is a Philosophy professor in the Mid-West. In this discussion, we explore the rights and responsibilities of a well educated citizen, and how democracy depends on such. Stephen's "Sympathology" article (recommended): Support this podcast:
July 29, 2019
70 | Transition by Tumor: An Accidental Androgen Story
This is the story of Kate, who struggled with depression and identity while growing up—which issues were compounded when, unbeknownst to her, her body developed a pure androgen secreting tumor. This is part of a series: Support this channel: Follow me on twitter @BenjaminABoyce
July 25, 2019
69 | Saving Our Religions, with Paul Vander Klay
In this interview, Rev. Vander Klay and I delve deeper into the "social justice as religion" proposition that James Lindsay spoke with me about here: Paul Vander Klay is a Reformed Calvinist Minister located in Sacramento. He runs a great youtube channel here: Support this podcast via donations through https:/
July 24, 2019
68 | A Postmodern Postmortem with James Lindsay
James Lindsay (@ConceptualJames) is a co-architech of the so-called Sokal Squared Affair and has long been studying the influence of postmodern thought on present day puritanical political correctness.  Find his writing here: Follow me on twitter @BenjaminABoyce Support this channel:
July 19, 2019
67 | Transsexual vs. Transgender, with Amazon Eve
Erika Ervin (@AmazonEve) tours the world modeling and making public appearances.  She is an actress, paralegal and advocate. In this interview she speaks about the transgender movement, the fight for transsexual medical care, and why Scarlett Johansson should definitely play a trans person. website: Support this channel: Follow me on twitter @BenjaminABoyce
July 15, 2019
66 | The Science of Hormones with William Malone, MD
William Malone (@will_malone) is a practicing community endocrinologist. In this discussion, he speaks about the real effects that cross-sex hormones have on humans; the problems with puberty blockers; and the ways in which the scientific and medical community are being misinformed regarding gender treatment. He has compiled a list of resources on these matters here: Support this channel: Follow me on Twitter @BenjaminABoyce
July 12, 2019
65 | A Life in Transition, with Miranda Yardley
Miranda Yardley is a trans individual who has been outspoken against the excesses of trans ideology. Consume her viciously reasonably essays at: Support this channel: Follow me on Twitter @BenjaminABoyce
July 10, 2019
64 | Parkouring Life's Obstacles, with Rafe Kelley
Rafe Kelley is an instructor of parkour in the Seattle area. In this discussion we speak about self understanding, self actualization, and how training the body leads to wisdom. Rafe Kelley's Youtube:  More resources:  Evolve Move Play podcast:   Follow me on twitter @BenjaminABoyce And on bit chute: Support this channel:
June 28, 2019
63 | Creativity & Cancellation, with playwright Libby Emmons
Libby Emmons (@li88yinc) is a prolific playwright and columnist whose works are featured in The Federalist, The Post Millennial, Quillette, and other online and print media. We talk about "artivism" and the narratives that are battling over public discourse. Find more of her work at Follow me on twitter @BenjaminABoyce Support this channel:
June 13, 2019
62 | The Unbearable Whiteness of Being, with Jonathan Church
Jonathan Church (@jondavidchurch) is an economist and critical thinker who has been writing a series of intellectually rigorous counter arguments against Robin DiAngelo's "White Fragility" theology. Find his articles on Areo Magazine here: Follow me on twitter @BenjaminABoyce Support this channel:
May 31, 2019
61 | Intuition and Wholeness in Jungian Therapy, with Lisa Marchiano
Lisa Marchiano is a world class East Coast Jungian psychoanalyst. Find her website and podcast here, and here: Follow me on twitter @BenjaminABoyce Support this channel:
May 30, 2019
60 | Identity, Gender, and Development, with Dr. Ken Zucker
Part of a series: Dr Kenneth Zucker (@zuckerkj) is a renown researcher and clinical psychologist specializing in therapeutic interventions with gender dysphoric children. He has held many positions of repute and currently holds the title of Professor in the University of Toronto Department of Psychology, and runs a private practice, while forwarding research into areas of developmental psychology. Follow me on twitter @BenjaminABoyce Support this channel:
May 24, 2019
59 | The Biology of Male and Female, with Robin Forbes-Lorman
Part of a series: Robin Forbes-Lorman is an assistant professor of Biology at Ripon college. In this discussion, we talk about the effects of testosterone on development and performance. Follow me on twitter @BenjaminABoyce Support this channel:
May 17, 2019
58 | Stigma and Censorship with Dr Ray Blanchard
Part of a series: Doctor Ray Blanchard (@BlanchardPhD) is one of the world's foremost experts on gender and sexuality. This past weekend, a tweet informed by his life's work was deemed harassment by activist or algorithm, and his Twitter account suspended. Follow me on twitter @BenjaminABoyce Support this channel:
May 14, 2019
57 | Parenting the Gender Dysphoric Child, with Sasha Ayad
Part of a series: Sasha is a licensed professional counselor working in Texas. She is one of the main (if not only) therapists using a least-invasive-first, individualized approach to gender-questioning teens. In this conversation (being our second) we speak about her therapeutic approach, the developmental importance of identity, and how it can often be confused with individuality—that is, being an authentic self. You can find more about her work at Follow me on twitter @BenjaminABoyce Support this channel:
May 13, 2019
56 | True Fantasy, with Steven Brust
@StevenBrust is my favorite author, at least who’s alive and writing fantasy. Top recommendation: His blog: I also particularly enjoy his Vlad Taltos series, while the Khaavren Romances awoke me to the possibilities of English when I was a wee high school bookworm. He’s running a writing conference this summer in Minneapolis: Follow me on twitter @BenjaminABoyce Support this channel:
May 9, 2019
55 | Telling the Grievance Studies Story, with Mike Nayna
@MikeNayna is doing awesome work documenting the flow of ideas from higher up in the academy and into the popular culture. He has been working for over a year with Hellen Pluckrose, James Lindsay, and Peter Boghossian, documenting their "Sokal Squared Hoax". In this interview we dive into the difficulties and wonders of presenting the inner workings of academia, and its sometimes chaotic outcomes, to a wider audience. Mike's channel: His Evergreen documentary: Follow me on twitter @BenjaminABoyce Support this channel:
May 8, 2019
54 | Identity Politics is Rubbish, with Rose of Dawn
Rose of Dawn (@Rose_of_Dawn (how's that for brand consistency)) is a British transwoman who is stationed in London, first of all, and libertarianish, in political geography. She was never taken by the identity politicking in the trans community, and has increasingly spoken out against collectivism, self id, and the illiberal leftism that to her mind is toxic to all individuals. Find her work on the youtube at Follow me on twitter @BenjaminABoyce Support this channel:
May 3, 2019
53 | Storytelling & Transition with Wheston Chancellor Grove
Wheston is an old soul with a deep story to tell, about being an introvert and transitioning from female to male, and then recently desisting. His novel: His YouTube: Website: Follow me on twitter @BenjaminABoyce Support this channel:
April 24, 2019
52 | Trauma and Dysphoria with Erin Brewer
Part of a series: Erin Brewer (@ErinBrewerin) speaks about her gender dysphoria, its origin in childhood abuse, and her concern that doctors are being too quick to diagnose it, and prescribe physical transition too readily.  She's regularly making videos at: Follow me on twitter @BenjaminABoyce Support this channel:
April 22, 2019
51 | Becoming a Feminine Entity with Jadis Argiope
Part of an ongoing series: Jadis Argiope engages with me in the contradictions and conditions of being a trans individual. Find her on twitter: @S3LF_MAD3_WOMAN And on youtube: Follow me on twitter @BenjaminABoyce Support this channel:
April 14, 2019
50 | Hierarchy, Trauma, & Psychology with Dr. Patrick Lockwood
Dr. Patrick Lockwood is a practicing clinical psychologist and professor of the same down in southern California. Links to his work are as follows: His book "The Fear Problem": Youtube: Follow me on twitter @BenjaminABoyce Support this channel:
April 12, 2019
49 | Is Social Justice a Cultural Revolution Reboot? with Simon Chen
Simon Chen (@simonbchen) is a medical pathologist whose family immigrated to Canada after witnessing the Tiananmen Square Massacre. Recently, he read an article in the New England Journal of Medicine by a white woman confessing her privilege and subtle acts of racism, and it eerily reminded him of the confession his grandfather wrote before being executed during China’s Cultural Revolution. We talk about the similarities between Mao’s movement and the radical strains of current progressivism, and speak about how to avoid repeating the worst parts of history.  ”Racist Like Me” (article in question): Follow me on twitter @BenjaminABoyce Support this channel:
April 10, 2019
48 | Let's Talk About Intersex with Claire Graham
Claire Graham (@MRKHvoice on twitter) is a British woman who began speaking out about the misuses of the intersex community by the trans lobby in the UK and elsewhere. In this discussion, she speaks with me about the difference between the intersexes and how biology can be messy—but not as messy as the activists would have us believe. Follow me on twitter @BenjaminABoyce Support this channel:
April 8, 2019
47 | From Dysphoria to Euphoria with Therapist Carey Callahan
Carey’s Advice for Dysphoric Teens: Carey Callahan is a therapist and counselor and communicator of powerful loving truths. You can follow her wit and wisdom on twitter @catt_bear and her blog at Follow me on twitter @BenjaminABoyce Support this channel:
April 6, 2019
46 | Adolescent Identity & Exploration with Sasha Ayad, Licensed Professional Counselor
Sasha (@SashaLPC) is a licensed professional counselor working in Texas. She and is one of the main (if not only) therapists using a least-invasive-first, individualized approach to gender-questioning teens. In this conversation (being our second) we speak about the developmental importance of identity, and how it can often be confused with individuality—that is, being an authentic self. You can find more about her work at  Best way to contact me is on twitter @BenjaminABoyce Support this channel:
April 4, 2019
45 | Inside Radical Islam with Filmmaker François Margolin
François Margolin is a French filmmaker and documentarian. His latest film, "Jihadists" documents the world of strident—and unapologetically violent—Islamist sects in Africa and the Middle East. I was able to view an advance screener and it's a very powerful and often unsettling look into various regions that have been overtaken by a very hard version of Sharia Law. Watch the film via these outlets: Trailer: Vimeo Digital Stream: Amazon DVD: Follow me on twitter @BenjaminABoyce Support this channel:
April 3, 2019
44 | Art Dies Where Correctness Thrives | with Alexander Adams
Alexander Adams (@AdamsArtist) is an art critic and artist located in the UK. His collection of essays, "Culture War" was recently published by Societas Imprint Academic ( His essays pull no punches and have been a stimulating read for me, for whom the political and the artistic have always been at odds. Pick up your copy online or by requesting it through your local bookseller: Follow me on twitter @BenjaminABoyce Support this channel:
April 1, 2019
43 | Dr. Ray Blanchard on Sex, Research, and Typology
Dr. Ray Blanchard (@BlanchardPhD) is a titan among researchers into sexuality, and spent a large portion of his clinical career studying homosexuality, transsexuality, and other paraphilias. He worked at  The Centre for Addiction and Mental Health in Toronto beginning in 1980 and became the Head of Clinical Sexology Services at the Centre until 2010. His typology of transsexualism, and the concept of "autogynephilia" greatly influenced the research of previous guest Michael Bailey. In this discussion we speak about his research and the need for biological data in the understanding of human sexuality. This is part of an ongoing series on Gender, Sexuality, and Transition, found in video form at: Contact me on twitter @BenjaminABoyce Support for this channel can be give through
March 29, 2019
42 | Gender Biology & Ideology with Kalvin Garrah
Kalvin has been a youtuber since his early teens. He also transitioned from male to female during this time, but remained skeptical of gender ideology. In this interview, we talk about his life on and offline, and his views on the current state of trans discourse. Kalvin's channel: Support this podcast at:
March 27, 2019
41 | Taking on the Gender Industry with Maritza Cummings
Maritza Cummings is a detransitioned natal female who was a strong trans advocate in the early and mid 2000's within the medical field. Some years ago, she began doubting that transition was correct for her, but instead a way of avoiding other issues she was beset with, such as childhood trauma and some neurological hiccoughs. She is now detransitioned and is speaking out against the Gender Identity Industry on youtube and via blogging. She's a firebrand, and takes a very strong anti-transition position, but is concerned first and foremost for dialogue to occur around "affirmation-only" modes of treatment. More Maritza: Best way to contact me is on twitter @BenjaminABoyce Support this channel:
March 24, 2019
40 | Toward a Trans-Centrism with Rhys McKavanagh
Rhys (@RhysMcKavanagh) is a transman dwelling in the UK. In this interview we discuss the difficulties not only in being trans, but how that identity has become in itself a political act. Rhys' speaks about his engagement on social media, the need for more moderate voices, and how biology isn't something you can escape from—without unintentional (and very biological) consequences. Best way to contact me is on twitter @BenjaminABoyce Support this channel:
March 18, 2019
39 | Curb Your Postmodernism with Helen Pluckrose
Helen Pluckrose (@HPluckrose) speaks to me about how postmodernism wed itself to Marxist activism and became the Grievance Juggernaut we see today. Helen is the editor of and is one of three intellectuals (along with James Lindsay and Peter Boghossian) involved in "The Grievance Studies Scandal" (see Mike Nayna's ongoing documentary series here: Support this channel via:
March 16, 2019
38 | Conformity and Abuse in the Gender Ideology Community with GNC-Centric
Ben (@gnc_centric) is a young detransitioned woman living somewhere in that broad stretch of northern real estate that pretends it's not a subsidiary of the US. Just kidding, Canadians. She recently started a youtube channel that pulls no punches about her early experiences in the LGBT and Kink communities, her gender dysmorphia, transition and detransition:
March 14, 2019
37 | Hip To Be Trans? with Jesse, of The Pique Resilience Project
Jesse (@dogcalledbambi) is the fourth member of the Pique Resilience Project that I've had the honor of interviewing. In this discussion we talk about her transition & detransition, the LGBT+ groups she joined as a teenager, her activism and "multiple marginalities"—and how getting the identity out of politics might be what moves us forward. Find out more about The Pique Resilience Project at: Support this channel through
March 13, 2019
36 | Therapy & the Teen Gender Crisis with Sasha Ayad, LPC
Sasha Ayad (@SashaLPC) is a Licensed Professional Counselor who works with adolescents on issues around gender identity. She's been an outspoken critic of the affirmation-only gender therapy model that is pushed by trans activists. Her therapeutic approach is exploration-based, compassionate, and seeks out a more nuanced understanding of the client as a whole person.  Find her on the web at Support this channel via
March 12, 2019
35 | A TransMan's Cautious Transition with Sean Lindsey
Sean Lindsey (@RrTiste) is a transman and lover of Irish proverbs. In this interview he speaks about his cautious process of transition in the mid-90's, and the problems with the voices that have taken hold of the trans narrative. This is part of a series on Sexuality, Gender and Transition: Support for this podcast can be given through
March 9, 2019
34 | Reforming the Social Sciences with Lee Jussim
Lee Jussim (@PsychRabble) is a professor of Social Psychology at Rutgers University. He also identifies as a rabble rouser. His main focus in the social sciences is to get them consistently outputting high quality research. He is a firebrand and this conversation was fun as hell. Read his thoughts on psychology and the state of science at: Support this channel:
March 7, 2019
33 | Smashing the (Non)Binary with Jamie Shupe
Jamie Shupe (@NotableDesister) entered the national spotlight when, in 2016, he legally changed his gender to "non-binary." In this interview, he speaks about that court case and his entry into and exit out of being a trans woman. You can find his writing (including excerpts from his autobiography) at
March 5, 2019
32 | Social SPIDERS! & What They Say About Us, with Colin Wright
Colin Wright (@SwipeWright) is an evolutionary biologist and humanist who realized, somewhere along the road to professorship, that he was constantly putting off the moment he would speak up for science and against the anti-rational movements in the media—both social and mainstream. In this interview we talk about things that make webs and live in nests, and what they might tell us about human social interaction. This was one damn fine conversation—because SCIENCE.
March 3, 2019
31 | Sexuality & Gender Identity with Dr J Michael Bailey
Dr. Michael Bailey is a professor of psychology and researcher of sexuality at Northwestern University. In this interview he shares his extensive research in paraphiliac (atypical sexualities), specifically those which inform some transgender experiences. We also speak about Gender Dysphoria and the current surge in young women identifying as trans during pubescence. Find his writings on the matter at
March 2, 2019
30 | Teen Transition and Social Media with Helena
Helena (@lacroicsz) is the third member of The Pique Resilience Project that I've had the honor of interviewing. In this discussion, she speaks about her experience of dysphoria and how interactions online (via Tumblr and Reddit) influenced her transition—and how she realized that an ideology was boxing her into a life that brought more frustration than joy.  Connect with The Pique Resilience Project on twitter at @PiqueResProject and on youtube at
March 1, 2019
29 | Free Will & Inescapable Bias with Dr. Cory Clark
Cory Clark (@ImHardcory) is a social psychologist and experimental philosopher focusing on free will and bias—and that's pretty much what we discuss in this interview. She runs a podcast with Bo Winegard (another psych prof) called Psyphilopod, found here:
February 27, 2019
28 | Transition vs Transformation with Jungian Analyst Lisa Marchiano
Discussing mass hysteria, rights of passage, and the meaning of transformation with Jungian Analyst Lisa Marchiano (@LisaMarchiano). Lisa is a prolific author at, and runs a weekly podcast at  Articles on teen transition:
February 24, 2019
27 | Transition and Self Actualization, with Dagny
Dagny, a detransitioned woman, is a founding member of The Pique Resilience Project (@PiqueResProject)—a collective of young women focused on providing guidance and advice to gender questioning teens and their parents. In this interview, we delve into what prompted her transition and her desire to desist.
February 24, 2019
26 | Detransition & Self Acceptance with Chiara
Chiara (@chiaracanaan) is a founding member of The Pique Resilience Project a collective of young women focused on providing guidance and advice to gender questioning teens and their parents. Check out there channel:
February 22, 2019
25 | The Divine Feminine, with Rachel Fulton Brown
Rachel Fulton Brown (@RFultonBrown) is a Medieval Scholar who writes on the Catholic contemplative tradition, focusing on the divine feminine. In this interview we explore what Mary represents in the journey of spiritual progress.
February 16, 2019
24 | Radical Feminism & Power Structures with Dr. Jane Clare Jones
This is the first of two discussions between Dr. Jane Clare Jones (@janeclarejones) and myself. You can find her writing at
February 14, 2019
23 | BJ Campbell: Guns, Memes, & Societal Ills
BJ Campbell is an engineer and data nerd. His essays on gun control and media manipulation can be found at:
February 9, 2019
22 | John Vervaeke: Wisdom, Myth, and Artificial Intelligence
Professor John Vervaeke (@vervaeke_john) teaches Cognitive Science, Mindfulness, and Buddhism at the University of Toronto. He's producing a series of lectures titled "Awakening from the Meaning Crisis" charting the development of thinking technologies (narrative, writing, democracy, etc), and their influence on our development as selves and as a species—and how at this point in history we are struggling to make collective and individual meaning. Check out his work at
February 6, 2019
21 | Egolibrium: A story of lost lovers
Excerpted from "A Resistance of Letters", this short story details the vicissitudes of two unemployed lovers in early 2000's Portland, Oregon. 
February 6, 2019
20 | Art & Identity with Alexander Adams
Alexander Adams is an artist and art critic who splits his time between Britain and Germany. In this interview we speak about the encroachment of identity politics into the art world, and its significance on the aesthetic project. More from Adam:
February 3, 2019
19 | Lior Leser: Sargon, Patreon, & The Case Against Paypal
Loir Leser (@YouTuberLaw) is a tech lawyer and the host of the YoutuberLaw youtube channel. In the past he has been answering many legal questions about the state of digital rights, free speech, and deplatforming. When Patreon banned Carl Benjamin, and then Paypal cut off business with the Patreon competitor SubscribeStar, Lior decided it was time to act. He is now pursuing an Anti-Trust Complaint with the FTC against PayPal, and has found himself in the center of an emergent digital rights movement. Learn more at
January 24, 2019
18 | Dr Jane Clare Jones: Communicating Feminism
Dr. Jane Clare Jones, a UK feminist scholar, and I speak about what feminism is trying to tell society about the treatment of women. Her essays can be found at, and she can be followed on twitter @janeclarejones. 
January 23, 2019
17 | Adaptations in Masculinity with Eric Anderson, PhD
Eric Anderson is a professor of masculinity, sexuality, and sports in the UK. His research and writings can be found at
January 23, 2019
16 | Physicist Sam Gregson: Resisting Media Manipulation
Sam Gregson is a particle physicist and teacher of science based in the UK. His youtube: • His twitter: • His website:
January 21, 2019
15 | A Crash Course in Sexology with Dr. James Cantor
Dr. James Cantor (@JamesCantorPhD) is a psychologist, researcher, and professor of atypical sexualities. He speaks to me about the different ways in which sexuality is wired in the brain, and how this should be informing policy, therapy, and public discourse—but for some reason isn't. Learn more about his research at
January 20, 2019
14 | Kinesis: Beyond the Trans Identity
Asha (@Kinesis) is a trans woman living in the Pacific Northwest. In this discussion we talk about the bad representatives of the trans community, how to focus on better representatives, and the typologies of transgenderism.
January 18, 2019
13 | Kinesis on the Potentials of Trans People
Asha (@Kinesis) is the founder of the TransRational movement, which is a group committed to forming reciprocal allyship between feminists and others impacted by the trans community. 
January 18, 2019
12 | Psychologist Oren Amitay: Social Media & its Discontents
Dr. Oren Amitay (@docamitay) speaks to me about the pitfalls of activist culture, and how we just might save social media from permanently becoming the toxic cesspool it sometimes is.
January 18, 2019
11 | Graham Linehan: In Good Faith
Eminent comedy writer and cantankerous twitter user Graham Linehan (@Glinner) speaks to me about the stand he's taking for women's rights in the UK. 
January 17, 2019
10 | Corinna on Trans Rights & Wrongs
Corinna (@corinna_cohn), a software engineer and trans woman, speaks to me about the ineffectiveness of certain aspects of radical Trans Rights Activism, and the media companies that are catering to them.
January 15, 2019
09 | Esther O'Reilly: Unapologetic Christian Apologetics
Esther O'Reilly (@EstherOfReilly) speaks to me about her Christian faith, and how it intersects with her daily life.
January 14, 2019
08 | Robynne on the Reality of Transition
Robynne, a trans woman, speaks to me about her path, her identity, and does not shy away from the details of medical transition.
January 14, 2019
07 | Journalist William Ray: On the Death of the Left
Old school leftist and hardboiled journalist William Ray speaks to me about how identity politics are corrupting the truly progressive values of the left wing of politics. His article we speak of:
January 14, 2019
06 | Filmmaker Jay Shapiro: On the Future of Tolerance
Filmmaker Jay Shapiro (@jay_shapiro) speaks to me about his journey filming the documentary "Islam and the Future of Tolerance" starring Sam Harris and Maajid Nawaz. Find links to the film at
January 14, 2019
05 | Dr. Kathleen Stock: On Being vs Identifying as Female
Dr. Katleen Stock (@docstockk) speaks about recent changes within the LGBT community which are eroding the status and rights of lesbian women.
January 14, 2019
04 | Arno Michaelis: Life After a Hate Group
Ex-White Supremacist Arno Michaelis (@stopthehate) speaks to me about how he is now helping teachers and students to move toward a truly inclusive community—one built not on shame and reparations, but compassion, patience, and humility. Learn more about his work at
January 14, 2019
03 | Carrey Callahan: Rethinking Transition
Carrey Callahan (@catt_bear), a psychologist specializing in child spectrum disorders, speaks to me about what the psychological and medical establishment are not doing to help transgender individuals.
January 14, 2019
02 | Coleman Hughes: Categories and Consequences of Race
Wunderkin of the Centrist Revival, Coleman Huges, joins me to talk about what the progressives get wrong about African American mobility.
January 14, 2019
01 | Reverend Paul Vander Klay: "Walk Softly & Carry a Big Cross"
Reverend Paul Vander Klay discuss Jordan Peterson, the seductive mirage of utopia, and how Christianity fits into a socially just world. Follow him on twitter @PaulVanderKlay
December 22, 2018