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Breaching Extinction

Breaching Extinction

By Erica Wirth
Breaching Extinction is an investigative podcast evaluating the complexities of the declining Southern Resident Killer Whale population in an effort to better understand the trials they currently face, and find solutions through conversation and connection.
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103. Orca Diet Estimates and Scientific Accessibility
This week Erica chatted with Orca Researcher Anaïs Remili about her recent publication, Validation of quantitative fatty acid signature analysis for estimating the diet composition of free‑ranging killer whales. She dove into a new methodology studying whale diets called QFASA, and also discussed her organization Whale Scientists, which aims to highlight young cetacean scientists and help aspiring whale scientists find resources.  Resources:  Anaïs Remili's Website and Twitter  Whale Scientists Website, Twitter, Instagram, and Tiktok Episode 92. Barataria Dolphins, Imposter Syndrome, and Whale Scientist (Episode with her partner Naiomi Mathews)
June 24, 2022
102. Dales Blue Whales
This week naturalist and local feral man of Alaska, Dale Frink to talk about the time he got thrown into the water by a blue whale. Dale has requested to raise money for the Ocean Defenders Alliance click the link to donate!  Youtube Video  Photos  
June 17, 2022
0.34 The bae bae
Kendra, Liam, and Erica discuss chapters 3 & 4 of Listening to Whales by Alexandria Morton.  Sources:
June 17, 2022
101. Hopping into Frog Conservation
This week Erica chatted with Hannah Overbeak and Tay Shoemaker from Project Polywog about their impact-driven business model. They shared the plight of two endangered frogs as well as insight on how they are helping these species both through a frog rescue and frog breeding programs. 
June 10, 2022
100. Homosexuwhale Baleen
This week Erica celebrated our 100th episode and pride month with a special two-part episode. In the first part, she chatted with Kendra Nelson about homosexuwhality in the animal kingdom, as well as their personal experiences being part of the LBGTQ community. For the second part, she chatted with musician and og homie Ambur Wilkerson to write "Baleen" a whale rendition of the iconic Dolly Partons song Joleen. 
June 05, 2022
99. Snake River Savers Protest
This we Erica chatted with Owen Begley-Collier and Lucy Larkin from the Snake River Savers about their upcoming protest in Seattle to remove the Lower Snake River Dams Snake river savers social media sites: Washington resident and can’t make the rally? Take action: Other states take action:
May 27, 2022
0.33 Loving the Whales to Death
In this weeks porpisode Erica, Liam and Kendra dive into the first two chapters of listening to whales by Alexandria Morton. 
May 23, 2022
98. Normal People Encouraging Normal People to do Extraordinary Things
This week Erica chatted Alex Haraus, an impact producer focused on saving our natural world. Alex talks about how he has used TikTok as a vessel for conserving wild places and shares some of his life experiences and philosophies. 
May 20, 2022
97. It Take a Village
This week Erica chatted with Mumbai researcher and PhD Candidate Ketki Jog about her recent publication Marine Mammal Interactions With Fisheries: Review of Research and Management Trends Across Commercial and Small-Scale Fisheries.  Ketki discussed her research and how she used the help of local fishers to collect data. She also shared her insight on how we can be better scientists and stewards of the environment by working together and staying humble. 
May 13, 2022
96. Inking about Squid and Mental Illness
This week Erica chatted with one of her favorite humans Madison Bashford about her novel research tagging and studying market squid at the John Hopkins Marine station during her undergraduate career at California State Monterey Bay. They also have a very real discussion about the role of mental wellness in their personal and professional journeys, as well as larger environmental issues.  
May 06, 2022
95. Exploring the Mystery of Frequency Decline in Blue Whales
In this week's episode, Erica chats with Ally Rice researcher at Scripps Whale Acoustic Laboratory about her most recent publication Update on frequency decline of Northeast Pacific blue whale (Balaenoptera musculus) calls. Ally discusses her study and drives into the unexplainable conundrum behind this phenomena and shares current theories for why this may be happening. Erica and Ally also touch on noise pollution and Ally shares advice on how to better care for our environment. 
April 29, 2022
94. Dale off the Rails
WARNING: This episode features explicit content and language that may be offensive to some viewers and inappropriate for children. The following episode is intended for a mature audience.  This week Erica interviewed marine naturalist and feral Alaskan Dale Frink about his personal life, feelings, and whales. Dale sheds much insight on what it means to be feral and have worms. Hope you enjoy this epsiode. 
April 15, 2022
0.32 Ego Extinction
Kendra, Liam, and Erica finished up Being Salmon Being Human by Martine Lee Mueller, they discuss our role in major climate issues, our geostory, and  accountability in regard to these issues.
April 12, 2022
93. Deep Dive on Pilot Whales
Dove into the topic of Pilot Whales with Kirstie Basford from the Ocean Lovers Podcast
April 08, 2022
92. Barataria Dolphins, Imposter Syndrome and Whale Scientist
This week Erica chatted with PhD student and co-founder of Whale Scientists, Naomi Mathews about science communication, imposter syndrome, and the vulnerable Barataria Dolphins. 
April 01, 2022
0.31 Dolly Parton and Salmon, the Most Important Things in the World
Erica, Kendra, and Liam dive into chapters 11 & 12 of Being Salmon Being Human by Martin Lee Mueller. They discuss the role of capitalism in environmental issues as well as how scientific exploration can occasionally lead to unintended exploitation. Tune in in two weeks for the final porpisode of this series. 
March 28, 2022
91. Ecosystem Jenga, the Role of Sunflower Sea Stars
This week Erica chatted with Senior Research Scientist, Jason Hodin from the University of Washington Friday Harbor Labs about his work studying the metamorphosis of Sunflower Sea Stars. They also dove into the ecological importance of Sunflower, the idea of ecosystem Jenga, and the mystery of Sea Star Wasting Syndrome.  Resources:  On Kelp Forest Declines The Nature Conservancy of California (partner in the captive breeding program) page on "Transforming Ocean Conservation in California" Stars for the Sea: our online funding campaign through UW!  If your listeners might be inclined to donate or to share this link with others, all money goes straight into our captive breeding program and is handled by the official UW donation process (is tax-deductible, etc) Sea Star Wasting Syndrome | MARINe
March 25, 2022
90. Breaking the Ice, Impact of Climate Change on Human Wildlife Conflict
We are excited to be expanding the podcast to cover topics and species found throughout the Southern Resident Killer Whale Habitat. We kicked off this new project chatting with Briana Abrahms, Researcher and Assistant Professor at the University of Washington to discuss her article “Human-wildlife conflict under climate change” as well as some of her Blue Whale research. We hope you enjoy our new episodes, if there are topics you are interested in learning about send us a DM and we will try to cover them! Resources:  Whale Sense  Abrams Lab Climate change to fuel increase in human-wildlife conflict, UW biologist says
March 18, 2022
0.30 If there an "ism" or an "ist" in it, its in Environmentalism
Kendra and Erica dive into Chapters 10 & 11 of Being Salmon Being Human; Encountering the Wild in Us and Us in the Wild by Martin Lee Mueller. Much of their conversation focuses on colonialism. Disclaimer, we are two white women having this conversation. We highly urge people who want to learn more about the impacts of colonialism on the environment to seek information from or endorsed by indigenous people. 
March 11, 2022
0.29 Anthropomorphizing Wildlife and The Idea of Objectivity
Liam, Erica, and Kendra dive into chapters 7 & 8 of “Being Salmon, Being Human” by Martin Lee Mueller. They discuss the role that anthropomorphizing wildlife plays in science and human connection. They also discuss if it is possible to truly see things objectively.
February 25, 2022
89. Discussion on Orcas: Our Shared Future Exhibit
Kendra Nelson, Fred DeNisco, and Erica discuss the Royal Musem Orcas: Our Shared Future exhibit. 
February 18, 2022
88. Exploring New Methods for Measuring Vessel Speed
In this week's episode, Erica chatted with Researcher Cathrine Lo from Oceans Initiative about her recent study titled, Measuring speed of vessels operating around endangered southern resident killer whales (Orcinus orca) in Salish Sea critical habitat.  Episode Mentions:  Orca Conservancy  Delphinus Orcastra Youtube & Etsy (Use code:BREACHINGEXTINCTION for $2 off)  
February 04, 2022
0.28 Human Nature
Harry Potter, Jesus, and Erica discuss Chapters 5 & 6 of Being Salmon Being Human. They dive into philosophies about humans and their relationship with nature. 
January 14, 2022
0.27 Who is She
Liam, Kendra, Erica and Shelby in spirit dive into chapters 3 & 4 of Being Salmon, Being Human. 
December 31, 2021
87. Coextinction Q & A
Erica sat down with Tori Obermeyer, Nicholas Castle, and Andrew Luba from the Coextinction film crew to talk with them about their new film and dive into the lessons learned along the way. 
December 17, 2021
Descartes + Fish Farms = Happy Kendra
Kendra Nelson joins Liam and Erica to dive into the book Being Salmon Being Human by Martin Lee Mueller 
December 10, 2021
86. Youth with the Truth
This week Erica chatted with Owen one of the youth leaders at Snake River Savers as well as Shiva Rajbhandari, another youth leader from Idaho about their current efforts to push for the removal of the Lower Snake River Dams Links:  Week of Action Description  RSVP 
December 03, 2021
85. One the 7th Day God made Sharks Metal
This week Erica chatted with Kendra Neslon and Orca Man, Fred Dinesco about shark eating killer whales and briefly discussed the current ecotourism situation in Norway.  Resources:  Orcas eat great white sharks—new insights into rare behavior revealed (Nat Geo)  Killer Whales 'Ripped Open' Great White Sharks, Ate Liver, Heart and Testes, Autopsy Reveals (Newsweek) Shark predation and tooth wear in a population of northeastern Pacific killer whales THE LIVES OF HAWAI‘I’S DOLPHINS AND WHALES Episode with Emma Luck about ecotourism in Norway 
November 19, 2021
0.26 Wrapping up Endangered Orcas
This week, we had our final week with Shelby :( we talked about the last two chapters of Endangered Orcas by Monica Wieland Shields. Major thank you to Shelby for all of her contributions and wishing her the best of luck in the future!  
November 16, 2021
84. Obnoxious Observers
This week Erica chatted with Tim Harrison, founder of Outreach for Animals about his work trying to eliminate the exotic pet trade. While this is not directly related to the Southern Resident, there are many themes that are parallel in their conservation story. Tim has been featured in two films, The Elephant in the Living Room which is out now, and The Conservation Game which is premiering at various film festivals. He recently wrote a book White Magic going more in-depth about these issues and exploring the world of White Tigers in the United States. 
November 05, 2021
0.25 Whale Frustration
In this week's propisode Shelby and Erica continue with the book review of Endangered Orcas by Monika Wieland Shields. (Chapters 9 & 10) 
October 29, 2021
83. Protected Habitat and Renewable Energy
In this week's episode, Erica chats with Deborah Giles and Colleen Wieler about the expansion of protected areas for Southern Resident habitat and new renewable energies that may be placed in those areas.  Sources:  Washington governor, senator want answers on how to replace benefits of Lower Snake River dams Southern resident killer whales encounter higher prey densities than northern resident killer whales during summer
October 22, 2021
0.24 Love not Lust
In this week's porpisode Erica, Shelby and Liam discuss chapters 7 & 8 of Endangered Orcas by Monika Wieland Sheilds and their thoughts on orca politics. 
October 11, 2021
82. The Sensory World of the Southern Residents
In this week's episode, Erica chats with Marie Souhaut about her master's thesis titled, Stereotyped whistles in southern resident killer whales. In her research, she was able to find new sounds produced by the Southern Residents. We discuss how she conducted the study and the implications of her research.  Note: The noise used when talking about abherant may not definitively be an abherant sound, these are hard to classify. Just wanted to demonstrate some of the different types of calls the orcas can make.  Thanks, Orca Behavior Institute for allowing Marie to share these sounds with us! 
October 09, 2021
81. Ranking Ecotypes
BEWOW BEWOW BEWOW, in this weeks episode Erica ranks killer whale ecotypes with Kendra Nelson and Orca Man (Fred Denesco) they also discuss whale names and classifications.  Sources Referenced: Killer whale ecotypes: is there a global model? WDC Ecotypes Page  NOAA Images  Handbook of Whales, Dolphins and Propoises of the World by Mark Carwardine 
September 24, 2021
0.23 Do it for the whales
Shelby, Liam, Peaches and Erica discuss chapter 5 & 6 of Endangerd Orca. 
September 21, 2021
80. Burnout in Conservation
This week Erica is joined by Gloria Pancrazi producer of the Co-Extinction film to discuss the role of burnout in conservation work and the importance of self-care. 
September 10, 2021
0.22 Seals
This week, Shelby, Liam, and Erica dive into Chapters 3 & 4 of Endangered Orca.
August 30, 2021
79. Norway with the Northern Naturalist
This week Erica chatted with Emma Luck, also know as the Northern Naturalist to discuss her undergraduate piolt research project studying the ecotourism around Orcas in Norway. They also discuss Emma's current role in marine science and what she is doing to contribute to science. 
August 27, 2021
78. 1,000 Band-aids for 1,000 Cuts
This week Erica is joined by Chief Scientist of the Orca Conservancy Dr. David Bain to discuss OC's Southern Resident conservation initiatives, including their new hydrophone project with Microsoft. David shares his thoughts on how to better help the Southern Residents through policy, science, and community collaboration. Please consider donating to the Orca Conservancy to help fund the hydrophone project!   Note: This episode was recorded before K21 Cappuccino was presumed dead.
August 20, 2021
0.21 Homosexuwhales & Book Reviews
Shelby, Liam and Erica review Monika Wieland Shields book Endangered Orca, discuss life updates and vegetables. 
August 16, 2021
77. #TheBestWhale
Erica sits down with Kendra Nelson and Orca Man (Fred Dinesco) to decide which species is #TheBestWhale
August 13, 2021
76. The Sensory World of Whales
In this episode, Erica chats with Dr. Marla Holt Research Wildlife Biologist for the Marine Mammal Ecology Team at NOAA. Marla's current research focuses on marine mammal acoustics including the effects of noise on the acoustic signals and behavior of Southern Resident killer whales, their use of sound during different activity states, and the cost of sound production in odontocetes.  Correction:  There are now currently 74 SRKW's at the time of recording there were 75
August 06, 2021
0.20 Condolences for Cappuccino
We are sad to start Season 3 out on such a sad note. Unfortunately, K21 (Cappuccino) has died leaving the population of Southern Residents with only 74 individuals. 
August 02, 2021
75. Super Podcast and Season Fin-ally!
Ending the season with a collaboration with the Intertidal Talks, Ocean Lovers, Cup of Hope and Orca Man Podcast so celebrate orca month and the end of Season 2! 
June 18, 2021
74. Working for the Whales
Special Orca Month episode with Dr. Deborah Giles from Wild Orca discussing what we can do to help the SRKW's! 
June 11, 2021
73. Kicking Off Orca Month
This week Erica chats with Howard Garret, sociologist from Orca network about how he came to foud Orca Month. Check out Orca Months Website for more info!
June 04, 2021
72. Can you not?
Shelby, Liam, and Erica discuss the impact of Sonor will impact the SRKW's and how current testing plans will impact them.  Sources:,from%20the%20sounds%20of%20sonar
May 28, 2021
71. Orcaholics
This week Erica chatted with Orca Man (Fred Dinesco) about the concept of Orca Man, connecting people to killer whales and the captivity era.  
May 21, 2021
70. Human and Cetacean Communication
This week Erica chatted with Moss Landing Marine Labs masters student Jack Barkowski about his research studying the anthropogenic impacts of sound throughout the ocean as well his thoughts on issues surrounding the Southern Residents and how we can use personal accountability and science communication to help them. Jack has graciously offered to answer any lingering questions, to talk to contact him send an email to
May 14, 2021
0.19 Positive Updates
Liam, Shelby and Erica sit down and chat about the recent new updates in Washington.
May 12, 2021
69. Mugs and Mental Health
This week Erica chatted with entrepreneur and high school student Oliva Perez about her new initiative to help the Southern Residents. Oliva shows us how we can all get creative to spread positivity and help the Orcas.  
May 07, 2021
68. Forming and Orca-stra
In this week's episode, Erica sits down with Howard Garret and Brian Jenkins to discuss Biden's infrastructure bill, the It's About Dam Time campaign, and the Red Road to DC Initiative. Howard is a sociologist and one of the founders of Orca Network, a non-profit dedicated to raising awareness about the whales of the Pacific Northwest, and the importance of providing them healthy and safe habitats. Brian the founder of Blackfin coffee and SRKW activist. We urge everyone to continue to write our senators! Sources:  It's About Dam Time Infographics It's About Dam Time Video  Red Road to DC  Seattle Times: Lummi Nation carvers and allies to embark on national tour to D.C., give totem pole to President Biden Howards first Breaching Extinction Epsiode  Brian's first Breaching Extinction Episode 
April 30, 2021
0.18 Red Road to DC
In this week's Porpisode Shelby, Liam, and Erica urge listeners to continue to participate in the It's About Dam Time campaign and discuss a new initiative Red Road to DC urging Biden to remove the Lower Snake River Dams and honor agreements with indigenous people.  Sources:  It's About Dam Time Infographics  It's About Dam Time Video  Red Road to DC  Seattle Times: Lummi Nation carvers and allies to embark on national tour to D.C., give totem pole to President Biden
April 26, 2021
67. Snake River Savers
This week Erica chatted Owen Begley-Collier one of the founders of Snake River Savers, an organization that works to help members of the public voice their concerns about the Southern Residents with government officials.   
April 23, 2021
0.17 Secrets of the Whales
This week we had a very special porpisode with Brian Skerry, a National Geographic photojournalist about his latest project, Secrets of the Whales. He discusses the development of his project, experiences in the field, and shares advice on conserving our world's oceans. Check out the film on Disney Plus this Earth Day! 
April 19, 2021
66. It's About Dam Time
It’s time to breach the Snake River dams, for endangered orcas and salmon, climate action, and social justice. And Biden’s Infrastructure Plan is the way to do it. Brian Jenkins from Blackfin Coffee and Gloria Pancrazi from the Coextinction film & PNW Protectors chatted with Erica about the new Infrastructure Plan and how we can use it to help the Southern Residents.  Call to action: Call and write to Senator Patty Murray and Maria Cantwell! Here are some bullet points of what to include in your call or letter:     ⁃    Biden's infrastructure Bill needs to include breaching the Snake River dams this year.      ⁃    This can be done by supporting and funding Mike Simpson’s plan to remove the four lower Snake River dams, but Simpson’s plan needs to be revised to breach this year.     ⁃    This is key to saving endangered chinook salmon and southern resident orcas.      ⁃    Breaching the Snake River dams will create 4000-8000 long-term jobs per year.      ⁃    It is also an important step toward climate action and social justice. WA. Senator Cantwell Phone: (202) 224-3441 Fax: (202) 228-0541 Address: 915 Second Ave., Suite 3206 Seattle, WA 98174 WA Senator Murray Phone: (425) 259-6515 Fax: (509) 624-9561 Address: 2988 Jackson Federal Building 915 2nd Ave. Seattle, Washington 98174 #itsaboutdamtime
April 16, 2021
65. Emoceanial Currents
This week Erica chatted with Kelly Biedenweg professor at Oregon State University in the Department of Fisheries and Wildlife about her publication Mixed emotions associated with orca (Orcinus orca) conservation strategies. Kelly is an interdisciplinary social scientist who evaluates conservation through the lens of psychology, anthropology, sociology, geography, political science, and other disciplines. Her study provide important insight on the role of emotions in Orca conservation. 
April 09, 2021
64. Scientific Discovery on the Road to Recovery
This week Erica chatted with Lynn Barre Southern Resident Recovery Coordinator at NOAA about current efforts in place to help the SRKW's. She talks about the role of science, NOAA, and how we can help as individuals. 
April 02, 2021
0.21 How Sea Stars Kelp
Liam, Shelby, and Erica discuss the importance of sea stars in the Salish and sea star wasting disease.  Video of sea star eating urchin (Disclaimer: please review wildlife viewing guidelines in your area when handling wildlife) 
March 30, 2021
63. Salmon, Our Power Cord
In this weeks episode Erica chatted with Alexandra Morton about her work conserving salmon populations. She shares her experiences with the Northern Resident Killer Whales as well as her insights on what we can do to conserve salmon along the west coast of Canada and the United States.
March 26, 2021
62. Endangered Predators & Endangered Prey
In this weeks episode Erica chats with Brad Hanson wildlife biologist at NOAA about his most recent publication Endangered predators and endangered prey: Seasonal diet of Southern Resident killer whales. They also discuss his thoughts on science and orca recovery. 
March 19, 2021
61. Q & A + How I Kelp
This week we did a special Q & A episode. If you guys like these send us more questions and we'll be happy todo another. We also launched our new campaign "How I Kelp" to share all the amazing things people in our community are doing. Please send us a video via Instagram (@breachingextinction) story post or email at No matter how big or how small your effort is we want to see what everyone is doing to kelp! Don't forget to tag us and hashtag "How I Kelp"  Video Requests:  -Anything you are doing to help the southern residents (get creative)  -Tell us wear you are from and how you efforts impact the SRKW's  -We prefer you film in landscape  -Tag us and hashtag "How I Kelp"  We will be sending a free Breaching Extinction T-Shirt to the person or group with the best video! 
March 12, 2021
0.20 It's a girl!
Liam, Shelby and Erica share recent southern resident news. Please send us any questions you have. We will be doing a Q & A episode this Friday!  Sources:  Endangered predators and endangered prey: Seasonal diet of Southern Resident killer whales CWR Whale Report 
March 08, 2021
60. Emotion(wh)al(e)
In this weeks episode Erica chats with Jim Whitehead, new up and coming SRKW podcasters about his experience as an activist, thoughts on the emotional value of whale, and his new podcast Seaquarium's Shame. We want to give Jim a warm whalecome to the podcast community and fish him the best! 
March 05, 2021
59. State of Salmon
In this weeks episode Erica chats with Erik Neatherlan about salmon recovery efforts in Washington. He shares information about the history of salmon and its importance though out the Pacific North West.  Correction: There are 14 species listed on the ESA in Washington Sources:
February 26, 2021
58. You Know That You're Toxic
His week Erica chatted with PNW Protectors new biologist Kendra Nelson about marine toxins an their impact on the Southern Residents. Kendra shares her knowledge and her experiences working as an influencer and biologist thus far. Follow her on tiktok and instagram @intertidalkendy Sources: EFFECTS OF POLLUTANTS ON THE REPRODUCTIVE HEALTH OF MALE VERTEBRATE WILDLIFE - MALES UNDER THREAT Southern Resident Killer Whales Endocrine-disrupting Chemicals
February 19, 2021
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February 15, 2021
57. The Orcas as our Compass
This was by far one of the most difficult episodes I have yet to record. Controversy around new whale watching regulations in Washington inspired investigation, leading to some disheartening discoveries. I discussed these findings with regular guest Gloria Pancrazi in this week's episode. She reminds us all to continue to use the Orca and truth as our compass. Sources:  Whale of the Week: L-25 References will be posted on our website in the learn more section, will update here once it is live! 
February 12, 2021
56. Drowning in Sound
In this episode Erica is joined by Megan Hockin Bennett, decade long volunteer at Orcalab. She talks about what make this institution unique, some of the most current threats Northern Residents and how this year has been different in light of covid.
February 05, 2021
0.18 New Whale and More Tales
Our Propisode's are back!! New host Liam Docet & Shelby Nielson join Erica to discuss the latest Southern Resident news, fisheries regulations in BC, and the most recent study looking at the impacts of vessel noise.  Sources: NPR Article on Rice's Whale  Rice's Whale Study  Cavitation Effects of Vessel Distance and Sex on the Behavior of Endangered Killer Whales Artifishal Documentary Let’s Talk Science (a charitable organization that promotes Canadian youth in STEM) Whale and Dolphin Conservation (global charity) Atlas of the Future Our Sound, Our Salmon (A campaign by the Wild Fish Conservancy Northwest) A few CBC news articles:
February 01, 2021
55. Capitalism, Culture & Orcas
This week, Erica chatted with Breaching Extinction's Cultural Resources Intern Jake Rider about his current research project with Eckerd College evaluating the impacts of capitalism and culture on our views of Orcas. They discuss in depth the impact of capitalism on commodification and public view of killer whales. Sources:  Scholarly Articles: Cultural Staples in Crisis: A Historical Analysis of Southern Resident Orcas and Chinook Salmon /By, Dylan Farrell Seidler Books: A Puget Sound Orca in Captivity The Fight to Bring Lolita Home /By, Sandra Pollard Native American Almanac: More Than 50,000 Years of the Cultures and Histories of Indigenous Peoples /By Dennis et al. Films: Lolita: Slave to Entertainment /By Tim Gorski Sponsored by Blackfin Coffee, use promo code "BreachExtinction20" for 20% off of your first order. 
January 29, 2021
54. A Crisis with Cole
In this weeks episode Erica chats with naturalist, captain and fisherman Cole Basar about his career, fishing culture, how to be the best hypocrite and whale dreams. This episode is not recommended with minors or those who do not appreciate humor. While they do discuss serious topics, there are some jokes that may not be whale received by all audiences.  Links for info discussed:  Vermillion Institute    Update: This episode was reposted at 9:52 am  
January 22, 2021
53. A Vessel for Conversation
In this weeks episode Erica chats with Shelby Nielson, PhD student studying epidemiology about a study evaluating the impact of vessel traffic on foraging behavior of the SRKW's. They discuss this study, new regulations in Washington and the recent siting of what was thought to be a long lost Norther Resident Killer Whale. See link's below for more information!   Studies:  Vessel traffic disrupts the foraging behavior of southern resident killer whales Orcinus orca  Effects of Vessel Distance and Sex on the Behavior of Endangered Killer Whales Credible Scientific Institutions: Center for Whale Research, Wild Orca, & Whale Museum  UPDATE: received some new information, excited to review in the coming weeks. DM or email if you have other studies you would like to discuss
January 15, 2021
52. History of the Dams, Mystery of Natural Connection
In this episode Erica chats with Liam Doucet, activist and high school student from Portland, Oregon about the history of the Lower Snake River Dams as well as their current function. They expand the conversation, exploring the spiritual connection between orca and humans. 
January 08, 2021
51. Kindness, Coffee & Whale Weirdos
Kicking off Season 2 with our new sponsors at Blackfin Coffee, Brain & Nicole Jenkins. They tell us about the company, their values and what they are help the Southern Residents. Use promo code "BreachExtinction20" for 20% your first order! 
January 01, 2021
50. Season Fin-ally
Ending our first season with none other than Ellie Sawyer. We reflect on the last season, discuss the most current politics surrounding the SRKW's, and of course harbor seals. Thanks to everyone who has been a part of this, looking forward to the start of a new season! 
October 16, 2020
49. Ohio, Dolly Parton & Crying about Whales
This week we had the honor of interviewing Tori Obermeyer, coproducer of the film Coextinction about her journey in the field, up coming film, Dolly Parton & events with the Southern Resident. 
October 09, 2020
48. Whale of a Woman
In this weeks Erica dives into more facets of intersectionality within the environmental field in a discussion with Erica Page, co-host of the Ocean Lovers Podcast. The Erica's talk about challenges women face in the field, personal experiences and suggest tips for creating an inclusive work environment. 
October 01, 2020
47. Orcaholics
This week we took a little break from our usual discussion about the Southern Residents and intersectional environmentalism to talk to Erica Page & Kirstie Bashford from the Ocean Lovers Podcast about their recent trips out on the ocean, fun fact, internet friends & more. 
September 25, 2020
46. Orca Lab, Ego & Emoceans
Gloria Pancrazi comes back on for a special episode to share her experience volunteering at Orca Lab & thoughts anthropogenic contributions to Orca conservation. Her and Erica chat about the role of ego & emotions in conservation, and ways ensure these factors have a positive impact while directly supporting our goals. This episode is another reminder, that it is the humans who need managing not the whales.
September 18, 2020
45. Whale Soup
In this weeks very exciting episode, Ellie Sawyer shares her experience being on scene at the most recent super pod event where J57 was discovered.  They discuss the birth of the new baby, excitement in the Salish Sea, and as always encourage everyone to continue pushing dam removal. Erica also share the story of the time she met Ronnie Vannucci Jr, drummer from The Killers. Peace, love, whales
September 11, 2020
44. Objectively the Best Whales
In this episode Ellie chats with founder of Orca Behavior Institute and author of Endangered Orca, Monika Wieland Shields. They discuss Monikas path studying whales, things she has learned over the years and what they think needs to be done on preserve the Southern Residents. 
September 04, 2020
43. Harbor Seals Try Their Best
In the weeks episode, former porpisode co-host Ellie Sawyer joins us to update us on news in the Salish Sea and shares her experience seeing the Southern Residents. 
August 28, 2020
42. Ghost Fish
Hereditary Chief Gigame of the Laichkwiltach Nation, George Quocksister Jr shares his knowledge and experience in regard to Canadian fisheries. He highlights the work that needs to be done on both sides of the U.S Canadian Boarder
August 14, 2020
41. Inflating the Orca through Policy and Leadership
The episode featured David Merner, leadership candidate for the Canadian Green Party. He shares his experience working with the Canadian Orca Rescue society as well the connections he sees between environmental and social issues.  
August 07, 2020
In this weeks episode, Erica chats with one of her best friends Madi Franklin about the stellar whale website  circa 2009. Madi shares her fear of dolphins and other life experiences. The world is heavy right now, so we hope you enjoy this light hearted giggly episode.  Click here to learn more about Navy interference with whales, and how to help! 
July 31, 2020
39. Orcantics, Ethics & Philosophy
In this episode, environmental philosopher from the University of North Texas, Brittany Jandick talks about her masters thesis evaluating how capitalism and anthropocentrism have lead to SRKW endangerment.
July 24, 2020
38. Remove the Dams, Save Orca, Salmon & Money
Jim Waddell, founder of Damsense share how his experience working for the US Army Corps of Engineers lead him to push for dam removal. He reminds us that we can save Orca, Salmon & Money if we remove the dams this year (2020).  He reminds us to ask Senators Jay Inslee, Pat Murray, Maria Cantwell & other local politicians to push for dam removal.
July 17, 2020
37. Nature has Rights
In this episode, Jordan Van Voast activists working with the Seattle Cruise Control to prevent more cruise ships from entering Southern Resident Orca habitat. He shares his thoughts on how we culturally value the environment and encourages listens to stay truly connected.
July 10, 2020
36. Success Is a Process not an Event
This this weeks episode, Erica chats with Bonny Glambeck, life long activist and founder of Clayoquot Action. She discusses her work with the foundation as well as tip for cultivating healthy and successful activism culture.  Recommended Links:  Salmon People Beautiful Trouble 
July 03, 2020
35. Integrating Humans Back into Nature (Orca Month)
 This episode to the late Micheal Soulé, father of conservation biology who passed June 17, 2020. His efforts and innovations in the field will continue to drive us toward protecting our precious planet. In this weeks episode we are celebrating Orca Awareness with Deborah Giles, Orca Biologist and founder of Wild Orca by discussing the three main threats impacting the Southern Residents. Giles reminds us there is still hope for the Southern Residents if we act now, please visit her website to find out how to get involved and take action!  Mentioned in the episode: Center for Conservation Biology 
June 26, 2020
34. Ecotourism, Bro Buds & Jesus
In this episode Erica talks with Florida State University graduate Lindsay Hooper, about her masters thesis evaluating compliance levels of ecotourism boats in relation to NOAA's viewing guidelines. They discuss the importance of science of community involvement in sustainable ecotourism.
June 19, 2020
33. Exploring the Intersectionality of Race and Environmentalism
This week Erica chatted with Fana Scott & Alexandria Gordon students at Eckerd College and members of the EC Afro-American Society. They shared their thoughts on combating racial issues in the environmental field and provided insight for cultivating inclusivisity.   Link to ejnet here!  Learn more about John Francis here! 
June 12, 2020
32. Cultivating Connection through Creativity, Part 3
In this final part of the Cultivating Connection through Creativity Erica talks to the fintastic Nyk Lifson about their coloring book the Fluidity of Fish. They divulge into other topics like the intersectionality of queer issues, race, economics, and environmentalism and discover they are both gay for the ocean.   
June 05, 2020
31. Cultivating Connection through Creativity, Part 2
This is part 2 of our 3 part short series exploring this importance of creative expression in conservation. This week Erica chatted with Michelle Fleur , conservation artist based in western Australia about the importance of using art as a bridge to connect everyone to wildlife. She discusses her two projects, Whales for a Wild World and 200 Whales which directly support cetacean conservation efforts. 
May 29, 2020
30. Cultivating Connection through Creativity, Part 1
This is Part 1 of a 3 part series, showcasing the the bridge between people and science through art. In this episode, Erica chats with Rosmary Connelli of Connllie Designs about her work as a conservation artist, the importance of art, and its roll in accessible science based education. 
May 22, 2020
29. Know, Connect, Protect
In this week’s episode we interview Joe Gaydos, science director of The Sea Doc Society. Joe is a veterinarian by training, he now works better understand and connect to the environment through science and community connection. He shared the importance of connecting the community to the environment and discusses some of the challenges faced when working to preserve ocean habitat. Reminding us that while challenging, these endeavors achievable and worth it.
May 15, 2020
28. Man Made Extinction
In this episode, Erica chats with Alexandra Johnston one of the executive producers of the film Searching for Chinook. She shares what inspired her to produce the film, and how she hopes to impact the fate of the Southern Residents.
May 08, 2020
BONUS: Collaboration with Ocean Lovers Podcast
In this episode Erica chats with Erica Page and Kristie Basford hosts of The Ocean Lovers podcast. If you are interested in learning more about the ocean in general check out their podcast for a variety of interesting topics! (There were some technical issues so please excuse to not so perfect audio compiling
May 04, 2020
27. Sanctuaries, Science & Advocacy
In this episode Erica explores ideas about cetacean brains, the whale sanctuary project and the relationship between science and advocacy with Neurobiologist Lori Marino. Lori is the President of The Whale Sanctuary Project and Executive Director of the Kimmela Center for Animal Advocacy. She has spent over two decades to dedicated to understanding the behavior of cetaceans in captivity through research, which she has used as a platform for Animal Advocacy.
May 01, 2020
26. Emulate to Eliminate Extinction
In this episode, Erica interviews Snow McCormick and Cy Scammell co-founders of PNW Protectors, a nonprofit organization dedicated to protecting the Salish Sea and its inhabitants through education, science and empowerment. They share the inspiring story of how the got involved working to conserve and the magic that has come out of being connected to this community. They elaborate on their mission, current projects and thoughts on how best to save the SRKW's.
April 24, 2020
25. It's Time to Turn to the Whales
This week Erica checked back in with Gloria Pancrazi, who we interviewed in episode 20 prior to the initial March for the Dams too, discuss what she learned and her thoughts on how best to proceed going forward. 
April 17, 2020
0.17 Burps and Botos
This week Emily Castro and Lara Kosinski fill in for Ellie to discuss river dolphins and menopause.
April 13, 2020
24. Spiritu(Whale)ity
In this episode Erica interviews Heather Green, an author and intuitive healer about the spiritual elements of conservation, and human-animal relationships. Heather earned a bachelors degree in Nursing from Clarke College and went onto pursue a masters degree in Counseling Psychology from Pacifica Graduate Institute. She spent thirteen years working as a registered nurse and several years as a counselor before transitioning into her current role. She elaborates on why spirituality plays an important role in conservation and what she thinks we can learn from the whales. (Correction: Erica meant to say Noah's Arc not Joan of Arc) 
April 10, 2020
23. We Need to Connect in Order to Protect
In this episode Erica interviews Orca Network Co-Founder & Director, Howard Garrett about his life's work understanding and conserving the Southern Resident Killer Whales. He shares thoughts and experiences which have led him to dedicate his time working to connect people to the whales, and return Tokitae (Lolita) back to her family.
March 20, 2020
22. Shedding Light on Parasites 
Erica explores the world of parasite ecology with marine mammal researcher Natalie Mastick. They discuss her current project assessing parasite prevalence in killer whales, her partnership with Oceans Initiative, & work with the Women in Marine Mammal Science project. She encourages those of you feeling inspired to contribute to marine mammal science to donate to Oceans Initiative. CORRECTION: There has been a mix of increasing and decreasing parasites in the Puget Sound
March 13, 2020
21. Water, Our Common Denominator
Ellie talks to Kas Guillozet about her passions, her work with the up and coming nonprofit Promise the Pod, and the importance of water as our greatest asset.
March 06, 2020
0.16 Geeked about the Beaked (Whales)
This week, Ellie and Erica chat about the march for the dams, news sources and beaked whales. 
March 02, 2020
20. March to Avoid Extinction
In this episode Erica interviews Gloria Pancrazi, co-founder of the Coextinction film and organizer for the March for the Dams. This discuss the importance of taking action and unpack Glorias motivation behind the movement. We are again reminded that this is a group project and urge people to join the movement!
February 28, 2020
0.15 Sharing is Caring
This week Ellie and Erica answer a pod members question about killer whales in captivity, they also continue to urge everyone to march for the dams and take action! 
February 24, 2020
19. OrCommunication
In this episode Erica interviews Biola University Communication graduate Emily Castro about effective communication skills when sharing science and navigating social media while (orca)hestrating dissemination of accurate information.
February 21, 2020
0.14 Lizzo the Risso
This week Ellie and Erica debrief the previous episode, encourage people to march for the dams, & explore weird things that whales do. 
February 17, 2020
18. Research Survey with Adelaidee Fouache
In this episode, Adelaidee Fouache's masters student from the Swedish University of Agriculture studying Environmental Communications and Management interviews Erica for her thesis evaluating the human side of SRKW conservation, giving listeners the unique opportunity to experience part of the scientific process. 
February 14, 2020
0.13 Plant your seed because size does matter
In this weeks porpisode Erica and Ellie examine the importance of sexual dimorphism, discover that pineapples are not citrus fruit & explore the possibility of  whales hiccups. Also, Erica's roommate Lara reminds everyone of legal age to vote! 
February 10, 2020
0.11 Evidence based scientific Narwhaling
Despite the title of this episode, we are actually focused on discussing gray whales. Additionally, Ellie and Erica answer a listeners question about motivation. Recent SRKW news was also a prominent part of the conversation. You will dolphinatley enjoy it🐬
January 29, 2020
0.10 Its a tough life in the pond
Grandma Ellie and Erica are up to their normal shenanigans except now its long distance :( they discuss ditches, favorite animals and the bush fires in Australia.   
January 13, 2020
17. Act to Avoid Extinction
Ellie interviews filmmakers Michael Peterson and Steven Hawley, the director and writer of the acclaimed documentary, Dammed to Extinction in this week’s episode. They discuss the politics surrounding the dams, the frustrations of process, and the hope they still have for an ecosystem on the brink.
January 10, 2020
0.09 Narwhals and Nonsense
In this porpisode Erica and Ellie discuss narwhals, frog skin, and conflicts between culture and conservation.
January 06, 2020
16. Exploring the Role of Photography in Education
In this episode we interviewed wild life photographers and educators Gary Sutton and Tasli Shaw discussed their role in conservation through photography, education and art. They share their thoughts on the whale watch industry, environmental stressors impacting the souther residents as well as personal experiences. 
December 29, 2019
0.09 Cultural intersectionality in Science & Ellie the whale pimp
This week Ellie, Anna & Erica discuss the role of culture and gender within the scientific community. They discover that marine biologist are just the 'horse girls' of the ocean and Ellie suggests some rather radical ideas for new conservation efforts.  
December 23, 2019
15. It's Humans We Need to Manage Not Whales 
In this episode, we interview leading researcher in marine mammal protection areas, Erich Hoyt.  Erich has written several books including Orca: the whale called killer & Creatures of the deep. He has helped develop the International Committee of Marine Mammal Protected Areas and the Marine Mammal Protected Area Task Force. He shares his experiences and findings and thoughts on what makes marine mammal protection areas successful.
December 21, 2019
0.08 Christmas Crikey Crock
Erica and Ellie get extra spicy recording on the eve of Friday the 13th under a full moon. They mostly discuss lemons and the grandmother effect among other whaley important topics.  
December 16, 2019
14. The Moral of the Story: Interview with nature novelist Barry Swanson
This week we interviewed Barry Swanson author of the book Lost Frequency and founder of the Salish Sea Orca Squad. He discusses the inspiration behind writing his book and starting his non-profit, shares personal experiences with the southern residents and explores potential theories relating to killer whale conservation.
December 13, 2019
0.07 Meaning of life: Seven
This week Ellie and Erica find more evidence based science facts that marine biologists are goobs, answer some riveting questions and discuss the importance of combatting culturally rooted issues with heart and community.  
December 09, 2019
13. Southern resident recovery in San Juan County
This week we had the opportunity to interview Dr. Frances Robertson, leader of the SRKW recovery efforts in San Juan County. She discusses her role within the country, projects she’s worked on and thoughts on how we can all contribute to helping recover the species.
December 06, 2019
0.06 Wigs for Whales
This week Ellie and Erica has the pleasure of answering some riveting questions from Hailey Broker, one of Erica's childhood friends and law student at Lewis and Clark College. They discuss whale self expression, reproductive behaviors and orca longevity. No fun was had during the recording of this porpisode. 
December 02, 2019
12. The Most Watched Whales in the World
This week we had the privilege of talking to Taylor Shedd, program coordinator for Soundwatch, an organization dedicated to understanding and bettering the relationship between whales and water vessels. He dives into the history of the organization as well as its current role in the community and research findings. 
November 29, 2019
0.05 Turk Turk Turkey and Happy Week!
Erica and Ellie talk turkeys, the possibility of killer whales holidays and Ellies family traditions. 
November 25, 2019
11. Removing our cognitive and physical dams
This week we chatted with author, psychologist and founder of the Kerulos Center for Nonviolence Dr. Gay Bradshaw, who shares her experiences studying animals and what she has learned in the process. She encourages people to evaluate their perceptions of animals and remove their internal dams in an effort to conserver and understand. To learn more, check out her books Talking with Bears, Carnivore Minds and Elephants on the Edge. 
November 22, 2019
0.04 Law of the Fit, Empathetic Humpbacks, and Ellie's Three Grey Hairs
In this porpisode the fourth, we bring on Anna Meyer, fellow naturalist, to discuss the humpback comeback in the Salish Sea in juxtaposition to the decline of the Southern Residents, Erica gives Ellie more grey hairs, and we dive deeper into Peaches's backstory. We also discuss the importance of empathy and interconnectedness, and what we can learn from humpback whales.
November 18, 2019
10. Check in and Pod Goals
In this tenth episode, Erica and Ellie take time to check in and evaluate the goals of this podcast as well as reiterate the issues remaining with the 73 Southern Residents, emphasizing the need for accessibility, checking one’s privilege, and learning how to be empathetic.
November 15, 2019
0.03: Ecotypes and Funeral Homes
Attempted to talk about eco types and other relevant millennial things 
November 11, 2019
9. Media causing waves of change
Director of the film Blackfish Effect, Bianca Yuen talks about her film exploring the ripples of change that occurred after the release of the film Blackfish. She shares her thoughts on captivity and experience with the souther residents this past spring. 
November 08, 2019
0.02 Never say Bieber and more serious things
This week we tell the story of Luna, a lone SRKW and discuss our thoughts on previous episodes. 
November 04, 2019
8. It Takes a Village to Save a Species
Whale and Dolphin Conservation's Rekkos Orca Fellow, Colleen Weiler discusses her role in southern resident conservation, as well as the mission of WDC. We explore the concept of the ecological whale and its role in environmental health. She encourages everyone to do their part and start somewhere!
November 01, 2019
0.01 Punt-able Porpoises and Peduncles
This is the first of our shorter episodes where we will answer questions and discuss a variety of topics related to cetaceans, science, and policy! Let us know what you want to learn more about! 
October 28, 2019
7. Exploring Environmental Economics
This episode explains what an environmental valuation is and the role it plays in politics and management. Dr. Adam Domanski, senior economist and ECONorthwest elaborates on his experience evaluating the lower snake river dams and discussed the sociopolitical implications following his study.
October 25, 2019
6. Aversion to adapting failed conservation efforts leading to further decline of Salmon and SRKW's
Award winning director and producer Josh 'Bones' Murphy, talks about his new documentary Aritifishal which focuses on the exploring the long term impact of salmon hachteries. We discuss the implications of human involvement in salmon reproduction on behavior and survivability of Salmon and SRKW's. He expresses his concern for peoples lack of faith in nature and urges removal of dams.
October 18, 2019
5. Looking through the lens of a boat captains binoculars
Exceptional whale watch boat captain and naturalist Paul Weatherford shares insight and stories accumulated after spending over a decade in the industry. Paul expresses opinions and concerns with continual changes throughout the ecosystem, industry,  and political landscape influencing southern residents. With hopes that his first child due later this month, will have the privilege of seeing southern residents he urges the removal of dams and encourages people to educate themselves about environmental issues and exercise their right to vote.
October 11, 2019
4. How puppies and poop help us understand whales
Deborah Giles, killer whale research director for Wild Orca and professor the University of Washington discusses her experiences studying the southern residents and further explains complexities of the salmon crisis in the Salish Sea. Through work with Conservation Canines, she has contributed to cutting edge research challenging traditional research practices while furthering our understanding of cetaceans. 
October 04, 2019
3. Who's really saving who?
I had the privilege of interviewing Leigh Calvez nature writer and author of the book The Breath of a Whale. We discussed her experience working with whale, how whales inspires her and what we learn from them. 
September 27, 2019
2. How innovative technology is changing the way we study whales
This episode features Jordan Lerma, field biologist at Cascadia Research Collective. Jordan shares his story and discusses how his innovative work is used to study whales.
September 19, 2019
1. Like the first episode
This episode features field biologist at Oceans Initiative, Sarah Colosimo. Sarah and Erica discuss the basics of souther resident killer whale population, behavior and threats as well as meaningful experiences they have had working around these animals. 
September 18, 2019
A brief introduction!
September 18, 2019