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Broadening the Narrative

Broadening the Narrative

By Nicki Pappas

Broadening the Narrative is a podcast where I talk to people who are broadening the narrative I was taught.

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21. Embracing Your Multiethnic Identity with Chandra Crane (S2 E1)

Broadening the NarrativeFeb 02, 2021

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80. Leaving Toxic Religion with Nicki Pappas (BONUS)

80. Leaving Toxic Religion with Nicki Pappas (BONUS)

This episode is a replay from the JoBeth on the Journey podcast. In this conversation, JoBeth and I talk about my experiences with toxic religion. Connect with JoBeth IG: @jobethonthejourney

Facebook: JoBeth on the Journey Podcast

Website: jobethonthejourney.com If you like what you heard in this episode, share it with a friend and on social media. I really think that little by little, person by person, we can broaden the narrative. In addition, make sure to subscribe so you don't miss an episode. Then, rate and review to help others find the show. Connect with Nicki Pappas Website: nickipappas.com IG: @broadeningthenarrative Twitter: @broadnarrative Facebook: facebook.com/groups/broadeningthenarrative Broadening the Narrative blog Episode Transcripts: broadeningthenarrative.blogspot.com (transcripts can be found here as they become available)

Apr 15, 202401:57:34
79. Assata: An Autobiography Discussion with Historian Lettie Gore (S5 E13)

79. Assata: An Autobiography Discussion with Historian Lettie Gore (S5 E13)

This episode is another replay from the Ink Drinker Literary Society podcast. In this conversation, Brent Schebler and I talked with historian Lettie Gore about the book Assata. Connect with Lettie IG: @sincerely.lettie Linktree: linktr.ee/sincerely.lettie If you like what you heard in this episode, share it with a friend and on social media. I really think that little by little, person by person, we can broaden the narrative. In addition, make sure to subscribe so you don't miss an episode. Then, rate and review to help others find the show. Connect with Nicki Pappas Website nickipappas.com IG @broadeningthenarrative Twitter @broadnarrative Facebook - facebook.com/groups/broadeningthenarrative Broadening the Narrative blog Episode Transcripts: broadeningthenarrative.blogspot.com (transcripts can be found here as they become available)

Aug 29, 202301:19:55
78. Writing in Community with Kim Marsh (S5 E12)

78. Writing in Community with Kim Marsh (S5 E12)

In this episode, I talked with writing and book coach Kim Marsh about her business The Open Book Company. We also discussed writing in community and the Preparing for Publishing series we offered earlier this year for authors. To download Session 1: Writing Rhythms for free, visit nickipappas.com/shop. Connect with Kim Marsh Email kim@openbookco.com Website www.openbookco.com IG @theopenbookcompany

If you like what you heard in this episode, share it with a friend and on social media. I really think that little by little, person by person, we can broaden the narrative. In addition, make sure to subscribe so you don't miss an episode. Then, rate and review to help others find the show. Connect with Nicki Pappas Website nickipappas.com IG @broadeningthenarrative Twitter @broadnarrative Facebook - facebook.com/groups/broadeningthenarrative Broadening the Narrative blog Episode Transcripts: broadeningthenarrative.blogspot.com (transcripts can be found here as they become available)

Aug 22, 202301:19:30
77. Taking the Lord's Name in Vain with Pastor Jenny Sung (S5 E11)

77. Taking the Lord's Name in Vain with Pastor Jenny Sung (S5 E11)

In this episode, I talked with Pastor Jenny Sung about "taking the Lord's name in vain." Connect with Jenny Sung Linktree: ⁠⁠linktr.ee/FreeRangePastorJenny⁠ IG @iamjennysung Twitter @Iamjennysung TikTok @freerangepastorjenny Facebook: ⁠facebook.com/jenny.sung.90⁠ If you like what you heard in this episode, share it with a friend and on social media. I really think that little by little, person by person, we can broaden the narrative. In addition, make sure to subscribe so you don't miss an episode. Then, rate and review to help others find the show. Connect with Nicki Pappas Website nickipappas.com IG @broadeningthenarrative Twitter @broadnarrative Facebook - facebook.com/groups/broadeningthenarrative Broadening the Narrative blog Episode Transcripts: broadeningthenarrative.blogspot.com (transcripts can be found here as they become available)

Aug 15, 202301:02:11
76. Coming Home to Yourself with Arielle Estoria (S5 E10)

76. Coming Home to Yourself with Arielle Estoria (S5 E10)

In this episode, I talked with poet, author, actor, and artist Arielle Estoria about her book The Unfolding: An Invitation to Come Home to Yourself.

Connect with Arielle Estoria Twitter @arielleestoria

IG @arielleestoria

Website arielleestoria.com


If you like what you heard in this episode, share it with a friend and on social media. I really think that little by little, person by person, we can broaden the narrative. In addition, make sure to subscribe so you don't miss an episode. Then, rate and review to help others find the show. Connect with Nicki Pappas Website nickipappas.com IG @broadeningthenarrative Twitter @broadnarrative Facebook - facebook.com/groups/broadeningthenarrative Broadening the Narrative blog Episode Transcripts: broadeningthenarrative.blogspot.com (transcripts can be found here as they become available)

Aug 08, 202355:39
75. Deconstructing Interventionist God with James Prescott (S5 E9)

75. Deconstructing Interventionist God with James Prescott (S5 E9)

In this episode, I talked with podcast host, author, and mental health and grief advocate James Prescott. We discussed his deconstruction journey and letting go of the idea of an interventionist god. Connect with James Prescott Twitter @JamesPrescott77
IG @jamesprescott77 Website
jamesprescott.co.uk

Poema podcast

If you like what you heard in this episode, share it with a friend and on social media. I really think that little by little, person by person, we can broaden the narrative. In addition, make sure to subscribe so you don't miss an episode. Then, rate and review to help others find the show. Connect with Nicki Pappas Website nickipappas.com IG @broadeningthenarrative Twitter @broadnarrative Facebook - facebook.com/groups/broadeningthenarrative Broadening the Narrative blog Episode Transcripts: broadeningthenarrative.blogspot.com (transcripts can be found here as they become available)

Aug 01, 202301:12:20
74. Techie on the Rise with Sequana Murray (S5 E8)

74. Techie on the Rise with Sequana Murray (S5 E8)

In this episode, I talked with hip hop artist, poet, and all around powerhouse Sequana Murray, also known as Bandy. We discussed her journey into tech. Connect with Bandy Twitter: @MurraySequana
LinkedIn: Sequana Murray TikTok: @bandythenomad

IG: @bandythenomad

Cash App: $SequanaMurray

Bandcamp: bandy17.bandcamp.com


Resources Mentioned

God Is a Black Woman by Dr. Christena Cleveland

Teneika Askew on LinkedIn: Teneika Askew Teneika Askew on Twitter: @teneikaask_you Udemy.com

If you like what you heard in this episode, share it with a friend and on social media. I really think that little by little, person by person, we can broaden the narrative. In addition, make sure to subscribe so you don't miss an episode. Then, rate and review to help others find the show. Connect with Nicki Pappas Website nickipappas.com IG @broadeningthenarrative Twitter @broadnarrative Facebook - facebook.com/groups/broadeningthenarrative Broadening the Narrative blog Episode Transcripts: broadeningthenarrative.blogspot.com (transcripts can be found here as they become available)

Jul 25, 202346:40
73. Author Interview: Marla Taviano (S5 E7)

73. Author Interview: Marla Taviano (S5 E7)

This episode is another replay from the Ink Drinker Literary Society podcast. In this conversation, Brent Schebler and I talked with author Marla Taviano about her poetry books unbelieve and jaded. Connect with Marla IG: @marlataviano and @whitegirllearning

Twitter: @marlataviano

Website: itsmemarla.com


Resources Mentioned

"54. Becka Eppley, Jen Kinney, Marla Taviano" episode of When We Speak

Intersexion by Cynthia Vacca Davis

Lake Drive Books


If you like what you heard in this episode, share it with a friend and on social media. I really think that little by little, person by person, we can broaden the narrative. In addition, make sure to subscribe so you don't miss an episode. Then, rate and review to help others find the show. Connect with Nicki Pappas Website nickipappas.com IG @broadeningthenarrative Twitter @broadnarrative Facebook - facebook.com/groups/broadeningthenarrative Broadening the Narrative blog Episode Transcripts: broadeningthenarrative.blogspot.com (transcripts can be found here as they become available)

Jul 18, 202301:08:19
72. Out of Eden with Jo Lloyd Johnson (S5 E6)

72. Out of Eden with Jo Lloyd Johnson (S5 E6)

In this episode, I talked with author Jo Lloyd Johnson about her book Silenced in Eden. Connect with Jo Lloyd Johnson IG @jolloydjohnson Resources Mentioned

Louder than Silence

Almost Heretical Gender Series

Paul and Gender by Cynthia Long Westfall 

Body Work by Melissa Febos

If you like what you heard in this episode, share it with a friend and on social media. I really think that little by little, person by person, we can broaden the narrative. In addition, make sure to subscribe so you don't miss an episode. Then, rate and review to help others find the show. Connect with Nicki Pappas Website nickipappas.com IG @broadeningthenarrative Twitter @broadnarrative Facebook - facebook.com/groups/broadeningthenarrative Broadening the Narrative blog Episode Transcripts: broadeningthenarrative.blogspot.com (transcripts can be found here as they become available)

Jul 11, 202301:10:23
71. No Longer Silent with Miriam Delaney Heard (S5 E5)

71. No Longer Silent with Miriam Delaney Heard (S5 E5)

In this episode, I talked with author and former Jehovah's Witness Miriam Delaney Heard about her book Sunless and Silent and Deep. Connect with Miriam Delaney Heard IG @callmevashti Website: callmevashti.com


Resources Mentioned

The Existential podcast - “Episode 51 (That's Interesting. Tell Me More) with Kelly and Dan Matlock” ⁠ If you like what you heard in this episode, share it with a friend and on social media. I really think that little by little, person by person, we can broaden the narrative. In addition, make sure to subscribe so you don't miss an episode. Then, rate and review to help others find the show. Connect with Nicki Pappas Website nickipappas.com IG @broadeningthenarrative Twitter @broadnarrative Facebook - facebook.com/groups/broadeningthenarrative Broadening the Narrative blog Episode Transcripts: broadeningthenarrative.blogspot.com (transcripts can be found here as they become available)

Jul 04, 202358:33
70. Communication in Relationships Post-Deconstruction with the Sexvangelicals (S5 E4)

70. Communication in Relationships Post-Deconstruction with the Sexvangelicals (S5 E4)

In this episode, I talked with Julia Postema and Jeremiah Gibson, sex therapists and hosts of the Sexvangelicals podcast: "the sex education the church didn't want you to have." We discussed communication strategies for relationships post-deconstruction. Connect with The Sexvangelicals IG @sexvangelicals Website: sexvangelicals.com Resources MentionedThe Existential podcast - “Episode 51 (That's Interesting. Tell Me More) with Kelly and Dan Matlock” Come as You Are by Emily Nagoski Passionate Marriage by David Schnarch   Pure by Linda Kay Klein Shameless by Nadia Bolz-Weber ⁠⁠ If you like what you heard in this episode, share it with a friend and on social media. I really think that little by little, person by person, we can broaden the narrative. In addition, make sure to subscribe so you don't miss an episode. Then, rate and review to help others find the show. Connect with Nicki Pappas Website nickipappas.com IG @broadeningthenarrative Twitter @broadnarrative Facebook - facebook.com/groups/broadeningthenarrative Broadening the Narrative blog Episode Transcripts: broadeningthenarrative.blogspot.com (transcripts can be found here as they become available)

Jun 27, 202301:18:06
69. A Transgender Man’s Journey with Scripture with Shannon TL Kearns (S5 E3)

69. A Transgender Man’s Journey with Scripture with Shannon TL Kearns (S5 E3)

In this episode, I talked with Shannon TL Kearns about his book In the Margins: A Transgender Man's Journey with Scripture. Shannon is a transgender man who believes in the transformative power of story. As an ordained priest, a playwright, a theologian, and a writer all of his work revolves around making meaning through story. He's the co-founder of QueerTheology.com and his first book, In the Margins: A Transgender Man's Journey with Scripture, was published by Eerdmaan’s books. He was the founder and Artistic Director of Uprising Theatre Company in Minneapolis. Shannon is a recipient of the Playwrights’ Center Jerome Fellowship in 2020/2021 and he was a Lambda Literary Fellow for 2019 (in playwriting) and 2022 (in screenwriting) and a Finnovation Fellow for 2019/2020. He is a sought after speaker on transgender issues and religion as well as a skilled facilitator of a variety of workshops. His work with Brian G. Murphy at QueerTheology.com has reached more than a million people all over the world through videos, articles, and online courses and community. Shannon’s plays include The Body's Rapture, Body+Blood, in a stand of dying trees, Line of Sight, Twisted Deaths, The Resistance of My Skin, and Who Has Eyes To See. He's also the writer of three television pilots: Transformed, Freedom, Kansas, and Family Unit.


Connect with Shannon Kearns @shannontlkearns on Twitter, Instagram, Facebook, and TikTok Website: ⁠shannontlkearns.com⁠ Patreon: ⁠patreon.com/shannontlkearns If you like what you heard in this episode, share it with a friend and on social media. I really think that little by little, person by person, we can broaden the narrative. In addition, make sure to subscribe so you don't miss an episode. Then, rate and review to help others find the show. Connect with Nicki Pappas Website nickipappas.com IG @broadeningthenarrative Twitter @broadnarrative Facebook - facebook.com/groups/broadeningthenarrative Broadening the Narrative blog Episode Transcripts: broadeningthenarrative.blogspot.com (transcripts can be found here as they become available)

Jun 20, 202358:57
68. Talking Gun Violence with My Kids (S5 E2)

68. Talking Gun Violence with My Kids (S5 E2)

In this episode, I talked with my kids J (age 8), EK (age 6), and L (age 5) about their experiences with active shooter drills. Resources Mentioned: Here 4 the Kids The Second: Race and Guns in a Fatally Unequal America by Carol Anderson If you like what you heard in this episode, share it with a friend and on social media. I really think that little by little, person by person, we can broaden the narrative. In addition, make sure to subscribe so you don't miss an episode. Then, rate and review to help others find the show. Connect with Nicki Pappas Website nickipappas.com IG @broadeningthenarrative Twitter @broadnarrative Facebook - facebook.com/groups/broadeningthenarrative Broadening the Narrative blog Episode Transcripts: broadeningthenarrative.blogspot.com (transcripts can be found here as they become available)

Jun 13, 202335:31
67. Are We Free Yet? with Tina Strawn (S5 E1)

67. Are We Free Yet? with Tina Strawn (S5 E1)

This episode is a replay from the Ink Drinker Literary Society podcast. In this conversation, Brent Schebler and I talked with pleasure activist and author Tina Strawn about their book Are We Free Yet?: The Black Queer Guide to Divorcing America. Connect with Tina Strawn IG: @tina_strawn_life Website: tina-strawn.com Resources Mentioned: Here 4 the Kids Just Mercy by Bryan Stevenson If you like what you heard in this episode, share it with a friend and on social media. I really think that little by little, person by person, we can broaden the narrative. In addition, make sure to subscribe so you don't miss an episode. Then, rate and review to help others find the show. Connect with Nicki Pappas Website nickipappas.com IG @broadeningthenarrative Twitter @broadnarrative Facebook - facebook.com/groups/broadeningthenarrative Broadening the Narrative blog Episode Transcripts: broadeningthenarrative.blogspot.com (transcripts can be found here as they become available)

Jun 05, 202342:53
66. Self-Publishing Tips with Nicki Pappas (BONUS)

66. Self-Publishing Tips with Nicki Pappas (BONUS)

In this episode, I shared about the self-publishing journey for my memoir As Familiar as Family and for my eBook of poetry Reflections from a Former Evangelical

Resources Mentioned:

Dear Sister by Megan Wooding

Lovingly Abused by Heather Heath

The Open Book Company, founded by Kim Marsh

Story Genius by Lisa Cron

The Memoir Project by Marion Roach Smith

What Children Remember by Tasha Hunter

#ChurchToo by Emily Joy Allison

Big Magic by Elizabeth Gilbert

IG Live with Kim Marsh from 9/14/22

IG Live with Tasha Hunter from 9/16/22

Native by Kaitlin Curtice

Bowker for ISBN #s

Library of Congress for LCCN

Writing Down the Bones by Natalie Goldberg

Self-Publishing Lessons and Gratitude on When We Speak

She Lives Her Truth

The music for this episode was created by Joshua Pappas, my oldest child. We worked together using the Chrome Music Lab: Song Maker and had so much fun. I want to thank Danielle Bolin for creating the episode graphic. If you like what you heard in this episode, share it with a friend and on social media. I really think that little by little, person by person, we can broaden the narrative. In addition, make sure to subscribe so you don't miss an episode. Then, rate and review to help others find the show.

Connect with Nicki Pappas:

Click here to order As Familiar as Family

Click here to order Reflections from a Former Evangelical

Website nickipappas.com

IG @broadeningthenarrative

Twitter @broadnarrative

Facebook - facebook.com/groups/broadeningthenarrative

Broadening the Narrative blog

Episode Transcripts: broadeningthenarrative.blogspot.com (transcripts can be found here as they become available)

Oct 25, 202256:51
65. Disability Justice in the Church with Amy Kenny (S4 E16)

65. Disability Justice in the Church with Amy Kenny (S4 E16)

In this episode, I talked with Dr. Amy Kenny about her book My Body Is Not a Prayer Request. Dr. Amy Kenny is a disabled scholar and a Shakespeare Lecturer who hates Hamlet. Her work has been featured in HuffPost, Teen Vogue, The Mighty, and Sojourners. She coordinates support for neighbors in her local community experiencing homelessness, and her book, My Body Is Not a Prayer Request: Disability Justice in the Church, came out in May 2022.

*Photo ID: A blonde, white woman wearing a burgundy patterned shirt sits on a mobility scooter in front of a blue background with a variety of geometric shapes.

Connect with Dr. Amy Kenny:

IG: @dramykenny

Twitter: @DrAmyKenny

Website: amy-kenny.com

Resources Mentioned:

"I Am NOT Your Superwoman" episode of Truth's Table

"Inspiration porn and the objectification of disability: Stella Young at TEDxSydney 2014"

"Disability and its Intersections with Everything" on Freedom Road

"My Body Is Not A Prayer Request w/ Dr. Amy Kenny" on Permission To BE

Disability and the Way of Jesus by Bethany McKinney Fox

God Is a Black Woman by Dr. Christena Cleveland

The music for this episode was created by Joshua Pappas, my oldest child. We worked together using the Chrome Music Lab: Song Maker and had so much fun. I want to thank Danielle Bolin for creating the episode graphic. If you like what you heard in this episode, share it with a friend and on social media. I really think that little by little, person by person, we can broaden the narrative. In addition, make sure to subscribe so you don't miss an episode. Then, rate and review to help others find the show.

Connect with Nicki Pappas:

Click here to order As Familiar as Family

Website nickipappas.com

IG @broadeningthenarrative

Twitter @broadnarrative

Facebook - facebook.com/groups/broadeningthenarrative

Broadening the Narrative blog

Episode Transcripts: broadeningthenarrative.blogspot.com (transcripts can be found here as they become available)

Sep 20, 202256:56
64. What the Bible Says about Queerness with Mitchell Kesller (S4 E15)

64. What the Bible Says about Queerness with Mitchell Kesller (S4 E15)

In this episode, I spoke with author Mitchell Kesller about his book Broke the Bread, Spilled the Tea

Connect with Mitchell:

IG: @mitchellkesller

Website: mitchellkesller.com

Resources Mentioned:

#ChurchToo by Emily Joy Allison

God Is a Black Woman by Dr. Christena Cleveland

Almost Heretical podcast

Inspired by Rachel Held Evans

Unclobber by Colby Martin

God and the Gay Christian by Matthew Vines

Transforming: The Bible and the Lives of Transgender Christians by Austen Hartke

The music for this episode was created by Joshua Pappas, my oldest child. We worked together using the Chrome Music Lab: Song Maker and had so much fun. I want to thank Danielle Bolin for creating the episode graphic. If you like what you heard in this episode, share it with a friend and on social media. I really think that little by little, person by person, we can broaden the narrative. In addition, make sure to subscribe so you don't miss an episode. Then, rate and review to help others find the show.

Connect with Nicki Pappas:

Click here to order As Familiar as Family

Website nickipappas.com

IG @broadeningthenarrative

Twitter @broadnarrative

Facebook - facebook.com/groups/broadeningthenarrative

Broadening the Narrative blog

Episode Transcripts: broadeningthenarrative.blogspot.com (transcripts can be found here as they become available)

Sep 13, 202253:17
63. Contending for a Better World with Corey Leak (S4 E14)

63. Contending for a Better World with Corey Leak (S4 E14)

In this episode, I spoke with Corey Leak. Corey is a person contending for a better world, and that's what we discussed during our conversation.

Connect with Corey:

IG: @coreyevanleak

Twitter: @coreyevanmusic

Patreon: patreon.com/coreyevanleak

Podcast: Existential with Corey Leak

Website: coreyevanleak.com

Resources Mentioned:

Lettie Gore’s Patreon - patreon.com/lettiegore

Body Becoming by Dr. Robyn Henderson-Espinoza

Legacy Trips - tina-strawn.com/legacy-trips

Twelve Years a Slave by Solomon Northup

When Narcissism Comes to Church by Dr. Chuck DeGroat

The music for this episode was created by Joshua Pappas, my oldest child. We worked together using the Chrome Music Lab: Song Maker and had so much fun. I want to thank Danielle Bolin for creating the episode graphic. If you like what you heard in this episode, share it with a friend and on social media. I really think that little by little, person by person, we can broaden the narrative. In addition, make sure to subscribe so you don't miss an episode. Then, rate and review to help others find the show.

Connect with Nicki Pappas:

Click here to order As Familiar as Family

Website nickipappas.com

IG @broadeningthenarrative

Twitter @broadnarrative

Facebook - facebook.com/groups/broadeningthenarrative

Broadening the Narrative blog

Episode Transcripts: broadeningthenarrative.blogspot.com (transcripts can be found here as they become available)

Sep 06, 202201:08:53
62. Discover Embodiment with Dr. Roberto Che (S4 E13)

62. Discover Embodiment with Dr. Roberto Che (S4 E13)

In this episode, I spoke with Dr. Roberto Che about their book Body Becoming. Dr. Roberto Che is a scholar-activist, scholar-leader, thought-leader, teacher, public theologian, ethicist, poet of moral reason, and word artist. They are also a visionary thinker who has spent two decades working in the borderlands of church, academy, & movements seeking to not only disrupt but dismantle supremacy culture and help steward the logic of liberation as a Transqueer Latinx. Dr. Roberto is the Founder of the Activist Theology Project, a Nashville based collaborative project that seeks to work with the dominant culture and produces curriculum at the intersection of scholarship and activism. Dr. Roberto was named 1 of 10 Faith Leaders to watch by the Center for American Progress in 2018. Dr. Roberto has been featured in fashion magazines and appeared on many different podcasts. As a scholar-activist, Dr. Roberto is committed to translating theory to action, so that our work in the borderlands reflect the deep spiritual work of transforming self to transforming the world. As the Founder of the Activist Theology Project, Dr. Roberto is committed to the work of social healing through public theology initiatives, and writes & creates both academic & other valuable resources, including digital resources. Dr. Roberto is a non-binary Transqueer Latinx and adult on the Autism spectrum. They are the author of Activist Theology and Body Becoming: A Path to Our Liberation. Connect with Dr. Roberto Che: Linktree: linktr.ee/irobyn Activist Theology Project: atporch.com Resources Mentioned: My Grandmother's Hands by Resmaa Menakem The Force of Nonviolence by Judith Butler Borderlands/La Frontera: The New Mestiza by Gloria Anzaldúa The music for this episode was created by Joshua Pappas, my oldest child. We worked together using the Chrome Music Lab: Song Maker and had so much fun. I want to thank Danielle Bolin for creating the episode graphic. If you like what you heard in this episode, share it with a friend and on social media. I really think that little by little, person by person, we can broaden the narrative. In addition, make sure to subscribe so you don't miss an episode. Then, rate and review to help others find the show. Connect with Nicki Pappas: Click here to order As Familiar as Family Website nickipappas.com IG @broadeningthenarrative Twitter @broadnarrative Facebook - facebook.com/groups/broadeningthenarrative Broadening the Narrative blog Episode Transcripts: broadeningthenarrative.blogspot.com (transcripts can be found here as they become available)
Aug 30, 202259:10
61. Self-care is Essential with Kourtney Tolbert (S4 E12)

61. Self-care is Essential with Kourtney Tolbert (S4 E12)

In this episode, I spoke with my neighbor Kourtney Tolbert about the necessity of self-care. We talked about prioritizing ourselves, sustainable self-care practices, boundaries, and so much more.


Resources Mentioned:

Musical Artist Kyle Lux: YouTube Channel - Kyle Lux and IG @kylelux_

All Who Are Weary by Emmy Kegler

Historian Lettie Gore on Patreon

Interview with Megan Wooding on Broadening the Narrative

A Rhythm of Prayer edited by Sarah Bessey


The music for this episode was created by Joshua Pappas, my oldest child. We worked together using the Chrome Music Lab: Song Maker and had so much fun. I want to thank Danielle Bolin for creating the episode graphic. If you like what you heard in this episode, share it with a friend and on social media. I really think that little by little, person by person, we can broaden the narrative. In addition, make sure to subscribe so you don't miss an episode. Then, rate and review to help others find the show.

Connect with Nicki Pappas:

Click here to order As Familiar as Family

Website nickipappas.com

IG @broadeningthenarrative

Twitter @broadnarrative

Facebook - facebook.com/groups/broadeningthenarrative

Broadening the Narrative blog

Episode Transcripts: broadeningthenarrative.blogspot.com (transcripts can be found here as they become available)

Aug 23, 202254:15
60. Free Range Pastoring with Jenny Sung (S4 E11)

60. Free Range Pastoring with Jenny Sung (S4 E11)

In this episode, I spoke with Reverend Jenny Sung about her work as an ordained #FreeRangePastor with the Evangelical Lutheran Church of America. Jenny spends most of her time traveling, preaching, speaking, writing, and coaching leaders how to heal through brave love and beloved community. She received her Masters of Divinity through Luther Seminary and is the founder and co-director of One Dance Company, a professional modern dance company in the Twin Cities. Find out more info about the June 2023 Embodied: Women in the Holy Land trip that Jenny shares about by visiting eliastours.com/tours/embodied-women-in-the-holy-land.

Connect with Reverend Jenny Sung:

IG @iamjennysung

Twitter @Iamjennysung

TikTok @freerangepastorjenny

Facebook: facebook.com/jenny.sung.90

Linktree: linktr.ee/FreeRangePastorJenny

Resources Mentioned:

“Free-Range Church with Pr Jenny Sung” on Cafeteria Christian

"Episode 51 (That's Interesting. Tell Me More) with Kelly and Dan Matlock" on Existential

#ChurchToo by Emily Joy Allison

The Body Keeps the Score by Bessel van der Kolk

Ordinary Blessings by Meta Herrick Carlson

God Is a Black Woman by Dr. Christena Cleveland

Out of Sorts by Sarah Bessey

The music for this episode was created by Joshua Pappas, my oldest child. We worked together using the Chrome Music Lab: Song Maker and had so much fun. I want to thank Danielle Bolin for creating the episode graphic. If you like what you heard in this episode, share it with a friend and on social media. I really think that little by little, person by person, we can broaden the narrative. In addition, make sure to subscribe so you don't miss an episode. Then, rate and review to help others find the show.

Connect with Nicki Pappas:

Click here to order As Familiar as Family

Website nickipappas.com

IG @broadeningthenarrative

Twitter @broadnarrative

Facebook - facebook.com/groups/broadeningthenarrative

Broadening the Narrative blog

Episode Transcripts: broadeningthenarrative.blogspot.com (transcripts can be found here as they become available)

Aug 16, 202257:51
59. Connecting to Superheroes through Grief with James Prescott (S4 E10)

59. Connecting to Superheroes through Grief with James Prescott (S4 E10)

In this episode, I talked with podcast host, author, and mental health and grief advocate James Prescott. We discussed connecting to superheroes through grief.

Connect with James Prescott:

Twitter @JamesPrescott77

IG @jamesprescott77

Facebook: facebook.com/JamesPrescottWriter

Website: jamesprescott.co.uk

Resources Mentioned:

Poema Podcast on Twitter: @poemapodcast

Poema Podcast on Facebook: facebook.com/poemapodcast

“Episode 001 | Spiderman: No Way Home” on The Kryptonian, The Princess & The Avenger


The music for this episode was created by Joshua Pappas, my oldest child. We worked together using the Chrome Music Lab: Song Maker and had so much fun. I want to thank Danielle Bolin for creating the episode graphic. If you like what you heard in this episode, share it with a friend and on social media. I really think that little by little, person by person, we can broaden the narrative. In addition, make sure to subscribe so you don't miss an episode. Then, rate and review to help others find the show.

Connect with Nicki Pappas:

Click here to order As Familiar as Family

Website nickipappas.com

IG @broadeningthenarrative

Twitter @broadnarrative

Facebook - facebook.com/groups/broadeningthenarrative

Broadening the Narrative blog

Episode Transcripts: broadeningthenarrative.blogspot.com (transcripts can be found here as they become available)

Aug 09, 202201:04:56
58. The Realities of Christian Fundamentalism with Tia Levings (S4 E9)

58. The Realities of Christian Fundamentalism with Tia Levings (S4 E9)

In this episode, I talked with writer and content creator Tia Levings. We discussed the realities of Christian fundamentalism, domestic violence, & current events in the US empire.


Connect with Tia Levings:

IG @tialevingswriter

Twitter @TiaLevings

Website: tialevings.com


Resources Mentioned:

Body Becoming by Dr. Robyn Henderson-Espinoza

I Know Why the Caged Bird Sings by Maya Angelou

When We Speak podcast interview

Lettie Gore on Patreon


The music for this episode was created by Joshua Pappas, my oldest child. We worked together using the Chrome Music Lab: Song Maker and had so much fun. I want to thank Danielle Bolin for creating the episode graphic. If you like what you heard in this episode, share it with a friend and on social media. I really think that little by little, person by person, we can broaden the narrative. In addition, make sure to subscribe so you don't miss an episode. Then, rate and review to help others find the show.

Connect with Nicki Pappas:

Click here to order As Familiar as Family

Website nickipappas.com

IG @broadeningthenarrative

Twitter @broadnarrative

Facebook - facebook.com/groups/broadeningthenarrative

Broadening the Narrative blog

Episode Transcripts: broadeningthenarrative.blogspot.com (transcripts can be found here as they become available)

Aug 02, 202259:52
57. Exchanging Retributive Punishment for Transformative Justice with Rahim Buford (S4 E8)

57. Exchanging Retributive Punishment for Transformative Justice with Rahim Buford (S4 E8)

In this episode, I talked with Rahim Buford. Rahim was paroled in 2015 after 26 consecutive years of confinement. A native Nashvillian, Rahim has seen and felt how poverty negatively impacts people in the criminal legal system. Arrested at age 18, he lived more than half of his life within seven different prisons across Tennessee. During that time, he completed course work for Lipscomb University, Ohio University, and Vanderbilt Divinity School. Rahim was a co-founder of Salt (Schools for Alternative Learning and Transformation), an inclusive undergraduate program that provides a safe learning space for non-traditional students at Riverbend Prison. While incarcerated, he also self-published his own book, Save Your Own Life. Upon his release from prison, Rahim received a Presidential Scholarship to American Baptist College, and worked part time as an organizer for Children’s Defense Fund Nashville. In 2017, he founded Unheard Voices Outreach to assist currently and formerly incarcerated navigate reentry. Rahim graduated summa cum laude with a bachelor’s degree in Entrepreneurial Leadership in 2019. He managed the Nashville Community Bail Fund from 2018 to 2021. Rahim uses his voice to advocate for decarceration and transformative justice.

Connect with Rahim Buford:

IG @rahim_buford & @unheardvoicesoutreach

Twitter @Rahimbuford & @OutreachVoices

Facebook - facebook.com/rahimbuford & facebook.com/unheardvoicesoutreach 

Website: unheardvoicesoutreach.org

Resources Mentioned:

Rahim Buford on Rumors of Grace podcast

How the Word Is Passed by Clint Smith


The music for this episode was created by Joshua Pappas, my oldest child. We worked together using the Chrome Music Lab: Song Maker and had so much fun. I want to thank Danielle Bolin for creating the episode graphic. If you like what you heard in this episode, share it with a friend and on social media. I really think that little by little, person by person, we can broaden the narrative. In addition, make sure to subscribe so you don't miss an episode. Then, rate and review to help others find the show.

Connect with Nicki Pappas:

Click here to order As Familiar as Family

Website nickipappas.com

IG @broadeningthenarrative

Twitter @broadnarrative

Facebook - facebook.com/groups/broadeningthenarrative

Broadening the Narrative blog

Episode Transcripts: broadeningthenarrative.blogspot.com (transcripts can be found here as they become available)

Jul 26, 202201:10:50
56. Walking Away from Toxic Religion with Andrew Pledger (S4 E7)

56. Walking Away from Toxic Religion with Andrew Pledger (S4 E7)

In this episode, I talked with Andrew Pledger about walking away from toxic religion. Andrew is a religious trauma survivor who brings awareness to spiritual and religious abuse. His experiences have inspired him to pursue psychology to help survivors. He is now an influencer using social media to share his story and inspire others. 


Connect with Andrew Pledger:

Linktree

Website: 4ndrewpledger.mypixieset.com/press-kit


Resources Mentioned:

Andrew Pledger on the Preacher Boys Podcast

The Color of Compromise by Jemar Tisby


The music for this episode was created by Joshua Pappas, my oldest child. We worked together using the Chrome Music Lab: Song Maker and had so much fun. I want to thank Danielle Bolin for creating the episode graphic. If you like what you heard in this episode, share it with a friend and on social media. I really think that little by little, person by person, we can broaden the narrative. In addition, make sure to subscribe so you don't miss an episode. Then, rate and review to help others find the show.

Connect with Nicki Pappas:

Click here to order As Familiar as Family

Website nickipappas.com

IG @broadeningthenarrative

Twitter @broadnarrative

Facebook - facebook.com/groups/broadeningthenarrative

Broadening the Narrative blog

Episode Transcripts: broadeningthenarrative.blogspot.com (transcripts can be found here as they become available)

Jul 19, 202201:18:10
55. Active Listening in Deconstruction with Carina Davis (S4 E6)

55. Active Listening in Deconstruction with Carina Davis (S4 E6)

In this episode, I talked with Carina Davis. Carina is a community advocate seeking to use her experience in various cultural and religious communities to promote togetherness and understanding. Since she deconstructed from Christianity over 10 years ago, her mission is to illustrate that life can be lived with joy and help others connect to communities they may not know much about through her efforts with Deconstructing Colors, a non-profit established to educate people on various cultures, ways of living, and to create a space of open dialogue as well as collective community service. To support the Deconstructing Colors non-profit fundraiser, you can send funds via Cash App to $DeconstructingClrs.


Connect with Carina Davis:

IG @joy_and_mrsdee & @deconstructingcolors

Cash App - $DeconstructingClrs


The music for this episode was created by Joshua Pappas, my oldest child. We worked together using the Chrome Music Lab: Song Maker and had so much fun. I want to thank Danielle Bolin for creating the episode graphic. If you like what you heard in this episode, share it with a friend and on social media. I really think that little by little, person by person, we can broaden the narrative. In addition, make sure to subscribe so you don't miss an episode. Then, rate and review to help others find the show.

Connect with Nicki Pappas:

Click here to order As Familiar as Family

Website nickipappas.com

IG @broadeningthenarrative

Twitter @broadnarrative

Facebook - facebook.com/groups/broadeningthenarrative

Broadening the Narrative blog

Episode Transcripts: broadeningthenarrative.blogspot.com (transcripts can be found here as they become available)

Jul 12, 202201:42:27
54. Easing the Burden on the Walk with Mental Illness with Emmy Kegler (S4 E5)

54. Easing the Burden on the Walk with Mental Illness with Emmy Kegler (S4 E5)

In this episode, I talked with author and pastor Emmy Kegler about her book All Who Are Weary. Emmy shared about how we can ease the burden on the walk with mental illness. Buy her book at emmykegler.com/all-who-are-weary.


Connect with Emmy Kegler:

IG @emmykegler

Twitter @emmykegler

Facebook - facebook.com/emmykegler

TikTok @emmykegler

Website - emmykegler.com


Resources Mentioned:

All Who Are Weary by Emmy Kegler

One Coin Found by Emmy Kegler

When Narcissism Comes to Church by Chuck DeGroat

My Body Is Not a Prayer Request by Amy Kenny

"My Body Is Not a Prayer Request w/ Dr. Amy Kenny" on Permission To Be



The music for this episode was created by Joshua Pappas, my oldest child. We worked together using the Chrome Music Lab: Song Maker and had so much fun. I want to thank Danielle Bolin for creating the episode graphic. If you like what you heard in this episode, share it with a friend and on social media. I really think that little by little, person by person, we can broaden the narrative. In addition, make sure to subscribe so you don't miss an episode. Then, rate and review to help others find the show.

Connect with Nicki Pappas:

Click here to order As Familiar as Family

Website nickipappas.com

IG @broadeningthenarrative

Twitter @broadnarrative

Facebook - facebook.com/groups/broadeningthenarrative

Broadening the Narrative blog

Episode Transcripts: broadeningthenarrative.blogspot.com (transcripts can be found here as they become available)

Jul 05, 202253:22
53. Supporting Survivors and Calling Abusers Into Account with Stephanie Krehbiel and Jay Yoder (S4 E4)

53. Supporting Survivors and Calling Abusers Into Account with Stephanie Krehbiel and Jay Yoder (S4 E4)

In this episode, I talked with Stephanie Krehbiel and Jay Yoder. Stephanie and Jay are co-founders of Into Account. Into Account offers support for survivors and allies seeking justice, accountability, and recovery in Christian contexts.


Connect with & Support Into Account:

Website intoaccount.org

IG @into_account_inc

Twitter @into_account

Facebook facebook.com/IntoAccount

Donate intoaccount.networkforgood.com


The music for this episode was created by Joshua Pappas, my oldest child. We worked together using the Chrome Music Lab: Song Maker and had so much fun. I want to thank Danielle Bolin for creating the episode graphic. If you like what you heard in this episode, share it with a friend and on social media. I really think that little by little, person by person, we can broaden the narrative. In addition, make sure to subscribe so you don't miss an episode. Then, rate and review to help others find the show.

Connect with Nicki Pappas:

Click here to order As Familiar as Family

Website nickipappas.com

IG @broadeningthenarrative

Twitter @broadnarrative

Facebook - facebook.com/groups/broadeningthenarrative

Broadening the Narrative blog

Episode Transcripts: broadeningthenarrative.blogspot.com (transcripts can be found here as they become available)

Jun 28, 202201:03:55
52. Facing Misogynoir with Sequana Murray (S4 E3)

52. Facing Misogynoir with Sequana Murray (S4 E3)

In this episode, I talked with hip hop artist and poet Sequana Murray (she/her), or Bandy as she is known by her stage name. Sequana is a four time returning guest, and we discussed misogynoir in this conversation.


Connect with Bandy:

Website BandysNotebook.net

IG @bandythenomad

Twitter @MurraySequana

Bandcamp bandy17.bandcamp.com/

TikTok @bandythenomad


The music for this episode was created by Joshua Pappas, my oldest child. We worked together using the Chrome Music Lab: Song Maker and had so much fun. I want to thank Danielle Bolin for creating the episode graphic. If you like what you heard in this episode, share it with a friend and on social media. I really think that little by little, person by person, we can broaden the narrative. In addition, make sure to subscribe so you don't miss an episode. Then, rate and review to help others find the show.

Connect with Nicki Pappas:

Click here to order As Familiar as Family

Website nickipappas.com

IG @broadeningthenarrative

Twitter @broadnarrative

Facebook - facebook.com/groups/broadeningthenarrative

Broadening the Narrative blog

Episode Transcripts: broadeningthenarrative.blogspot.com (transcripts can be found here as they become available)

Jun 21, 202201:00:21
51. Overcoming Cults, Gaslighting, and Legal Educational Neglect with Heather Heath (S4 E2)

51. Overcoming Cults, Gaslighting, and Legal Educational Neglect with Heather Heath (S4 E2)

In this episode, I talked with author, medic, and twin mom Heather Heath (she/her). We discussed her book Lovingly Abused: Overcoming Cults, Gaslighting, and Legal Educational Neglect. Buy her book at heathergraceheath.com.


Connect with Heather Heath:

IG @backsliddenharlot

Twitter @BksliddenHarlot

TikTok @backsliddenharlot

Website heathergraceheath.com


Resources Mentioned:

Lovingly Abused by Heather Heath

#ChurchToo by Emily Joy Allison

The Vashti Initiative

The Amish Heritage Foundation

The Coalition for Responsible Home Education

When We Speak podcast with Tasha Hunter


The music for this episode was created by Joshua Pappas, my oldest child. We worked together using the Chrome Music Lab: Song Maker and had so much fun. I want to thank Danielle Bolin for creating the episode graphic. If you like what you heard in this episode, share it with a friend and on social media. I really think that little by little, person by person, we can broaden the narrative. In addition, make sure to subscribe so you don't miss an episode. Then, rate and review to help others find the show.

Connect with Nicki Pappas:

Click here to order As Familiar as Family

Website nickipappas.com

IG @broadeningthenarrative

Twitter @broadnarrative

Facebook - facebook.com/groups/broadeningthenarrative

Broadening the Narrative blog

Episode Transcripts: broadeningthenarrative.blogspot.com (transcripts can be found here as they become available)

Jun 14, 202201:21:32
50. Leaving Hillsong with Nandi Kayyy (S4 E1)

50. Leaving Hillsong with Nandi Kayyy (S4 E1)

In this episode, I talked with returning guest Nandi Kayyy (they/them). Nandi is a Southern-born, Queer, Agender and Trans, artist, activist, and podcast host. Nandi shared about their journey into and out of Hillsong Church. They released the RIOT EP with their band Nandi Kayyy & The THEY Agenda last year, which we discussed in the episode "Abolish the Police" in season 3. You can also listen to their episode titled "All Black Lives Matter" from season 2 if you haven't already.

Connect with Nandi Kayyy:

IG @nandikayyy

Twitter @NandiKayyy

Facebook facebook.com/nandikayyy

Nandi Kayyy's Patreon patreon.com/nandikayyy

Website nandikayyy.com

The RIOT EP nandikayyytheyagenda.bandcamp.com/releases

SoundCloud soundcloud.com/nandikayyy

Bandcamp bandcamp.com/nandikayyy

Black Friends Dinner podcast


Resources Mentioned:

"#164: Hellsong, w/ Janice Lagata" on A Tiny Revolution

When We Speak podcast with Tasha Hunter

Church Clarity


The music for this episode was created by Joshua Pappas, my oldest child. We worked together using the Chrome Music Lab: Song Maker and had so much fun. I want to thank Danielle Bolin for creating the episode graphic. If you like what you heard in this episode, share it with a friend and on social media. I really think that little by little, person by person, we can broaden the narrative. In addition, make sure to subscribe so you don't miss an episode. Then, rate and review to help others find the show.

Connect with Nicki Pappas:

Click here to order As Familiar as Family

Website nickipappas.com

IG @broadeningthenarrative

Twitter @broadnarrative

Facebook - facebook.com/groups/broadeningthenarrative

Broadening the Narrative blog

Episode Transcripts: broadeningthenarrative.blogspot.com (transcripts can be found here as they become available)

Jun 07, 202201:01:19
49. Creating Anti-oppressive Structures with Tommy Allgood (S3 E12)

49. Creating Anti-oppressive Structures with Tommy Allgood (S3 E12)

In this episode, I talked with Tommy Allgood. Tommy is a registered nurse, a life, wellness, and spiritual coach, and an organizational consultant. We discussed how Tommy is helping create anti-oppressive structures.


Connect with Tommy Allgood:

Website teamallgood.com or tommyallgood.com

IG @tommyallgoodrn

Twitter @TommyAllgood

Permission To BE podcast


Resources Mentioned:

In Class with Carr YouTube videos

The Color of Compromise by Jemar Tisby

NowThis video "Theologian Ekemini Uwan On Faith and the Pandemic"

Andre Henry's website andrehenry.co

adrienne maree brown's website adriennemareebrown.net

History Shows Us podcast with Lettie Gore

"Examining the Bible We Have with David Cady" on Broadening the Narrative 

"Joy and Liberation with Tina Strawn" on Broadening the Narrative 


The music from this episode is "Love Is" by Bandy. I want to thank Jordan Lukens for his help with editing and Danielle Bolin for creating the episode graphic. If you like what you hear in this episode, share it with a friend. I really think that little by little, person by person, we can broaden the narrative. In addition, make sure to subscribe so you don’t miss an episode. Then, rate and review to help others find the show.

Broadening the Narrative blog - broadeningthenarrative.blogspot.com

Broadening the Narrative on:

IG @broadeningthenarrative

Twitter @broadnarrative

Facebook - facebook.com/groups/broadeningthenarrative

Nov 23, 202101:31:13
48. Healing Complex Developmental Trauma with Tasha Hunter (S3 E11)

48. Healing Complex Developmental Trauma with Tasha Hunter (S3 E11)

In this episode, I talked with Tasha Hunter. Tasha is a speaker, host of the When We Speak podcast, a mental health therapist, and an author. We discussed healing from complex developmental trauma and her book What Children Remember. You can buy her book at tashahunterauthor.com/book.

Connect with Tasha Hunter:

Website tashahunterauthor.com

IG @tashahunterlcsw

When We Speak podcast

Ascension Growth Center

Resources Mentioned:

"Tasha Hunter" on Her Story Speaks

I Know Why the Caged Bird Sings by Maya Angelou

The Safe Haven podcast

"How Childhood Trauma Affects Health Across a Lifetime with Nadine Burke Harris" - Ted Talk

My Grandmother’s Hands by Resmaa Menakem

"What We Pass on to Our Kids" by Resmaa Menakem

The Body Keeps the Score by Bessel van der Kolk

"Sharing Our Stories and the Trauma We Carry with Tasha Hunter" on History Shows Us

"Ministry of Violence" by Talia Lavin

"Episode 30- Rahim Buford" on The Human Voice with Bob Hutchins

"15: Mako Nagasawa - Beyond penal substitution" on Almost Heretical

Still Becoming with Monica DiCristina

"#ChurchToo and Domestic Violence with Emily Joy Allison" on Broadening the Narrative

"Understanding Settler Colonialism Within the US Empire with Charlie Amáyá Scott" on Broadening the Narrative

"Bad Theology Kills with Kevin Garcia" on Broadening the Narrative

"My Experience with Spiritual Abuse at Remedy Church with Nicki Pappas" on Broadening the Narrative


The music from this episode is "Love Is" by Bandy. I want to thank Jordan Lukens for his help with editing and Danielle Bolin for creating the episode graphic. If you like what you hear in this episode, share it with a friend. I really think that little by little, person by person, we can broaden the narrative. In addition, make sure to subscribe so you don’t miss an episode. Then, rate and review to help others find the show.

Broadening the Narrative blog - broadeningthenarrative.blogspot.com

Broadening the Narrative on:

IG @broadeningthenarrative

Twitter @broadnarrative

Facebook - facebook.com/groups/broadeningthenarrative

Nov 16, 202101:23:05
47. Bad Theology Kills with Kevin Garcia (S3 E10)

47. Bad Theology Kills with Kevin Garcia (S3 E10)

In this episode, I talked with digital pastor, mystic theologian, creative healer, and Spiritual Re’Formation coach Kevin Garcia about their book Bad Theology Kills. Since coming out as a queer person of faith in 2015, Kevin has become a leading voice in progressive faith circles with a call to revolutionary love, practical spirituality, and a vision to see healing in every body. They believe that by telling our story, we set others free to tell their own. Buy their book at badtheologykills.com.


Connect with Kevin Garcia:

Website thekevingarcia.com

IG @thekevingarcia

Twitter @theKevinGarcia_

Facebook facebook.com/kevin.garcia

Youtube youtube.com/c/KevinGarciaWasTaken

A Tiny Revolution podcast

Your Favorite Aunts live show/podcast with Sarah Heath

Patreon patreon.com/theKevinGarcia


Resources Mentioned:

My Grandmother's Hands by Resmaa Menakem

Do Better by Rachel Ricketts

A Course in Miracles

If God Still Breathes, Why Can't I by Angela Parker

Out of Sorts by Sarah Bessey

Still Stace by Stacey Chomiak

"My Experience with Spiritual Abuse at Remedy Church with Nicki Pappas" on Broadening the Narrative

"Understanding Settler Colonialism Within the US Empire with Charlie Amáyá Scott" on Broadening the Narrative

"#ChurchToo and Domestic Violence with Emily Joy Allison" on Broadening the Narrative


The music from this episode is "Love Is" by Bandy. I want to thank Jordan Lukens for his help with editing and Danielle Bolin for creating the episode graphic. If you like what you hear in this episode, share it with a friend. I really think that little by little, person by person, we can broaden the narrative. In addition, make sure to subscribe so you don’t miss an episode. Then, rate and review to help others find the show.

Broadening the Narrative blog - broadeningthenarrative.blogspot.com

Broadening the Narrative on:

IG @broadeningthenarrative

Twitter @broadnarrative

Facebook - facebook.com/groups/broadeningthenarrative

Nov 09, 202101:16:26
46. Understanding Settler Colonialism Within the US Empire with Charlie Amáyá Scott (S3 E9)

46. Understanding Settler Colonialism Within the US Empire with Charlie Amáyá Scott (S3 E9)

In this episode, I talked with Charlie Amáyá Scott about settler colonialism within the US empire. Charlie is the creator of Diné Aesthetics and a Diné scholar born and raised within the Navajo Nation. As a doctoral student, Charlie is intrigued by the intricacies among higher education, settler colonialism, and social media. Their work is informed by a desire for a more just and liberating education that supports and inspires the next generation of Queer, Trans, and Indigenous students. In addition, Charlie reflects, analyzes, and critiques what it means to be a Diné in the 21st century on her personal blog, dineaesthetics.com, while inspiring joy and justice to thousands on Instagram, TikTok, and Twitter.


Connect with Charlie Amáyá Scott:

Blog dineaesthetics.com

IG @dineaesthetics

TikTok @dineaesthetics

Twitter @GrandmaSaidNo


Resources Mentioned:

"Explaining settler colonialism" TikTok video

A Third University Is Possible by la paperson

"Decolonization is not a metaphor" by Eve Tuck and K. Wayne Yang

"Toward a Tribal Critical Race Theory in Education" by Bryan McKinley Jones Brayboy

"Settler colonialism and the elimination of the native" by Patrick Wolfe

Joshua Whitehead

bell hooks

Rebecca Roanhorse

Tenille K. Campbell

"My Experience with Spiritual Abuse at Remedy Church with Nicki Pappas" on Broadening the Narrative

Additional Instagram Accounts to Follow: @melaninmvskoke, @lilnativeboy, @prestomanifest0, and @endlessyarning


The music from this episode is "Love Is" by Bandy. I want to thank Jordan Lukens for his help with editing and Danielle Bolin for creating the episode graphic. If you like what you hear in this episode, share it with a friend. I really think that little by little, person by person, we can broaden the narrative. In addition, make sure to subscribe so you don’t miss an episode. Then, rate and review to help others find the show.

Broadening the Narrative blog - broadeningthenarrative.blogspot.com

Broadening the Narrative on:

IG @broadeningthenarrative

Twitter @broadnarrative

Facebook - facebook.com/groups/broadeningthenarrative


Nov 02, 202159:57
45. Queer History in Asia and Pacific Islands with Sarah Ngu (S3 E8)

45. Queer History in Asia and Pacific Islands with Sarah Ngu (S3 E8)

In this episode, I talked with writer, speaker, and Church Clarity co-founder Sarah Ngu. Sarah writes and speaks on religion, LGBTQ2 histories, class, and race. We discussed the history of queerness in Asia and Pacific Islands, how Christian colonialism impacted queer affirmation, and what all of this should mean for the Christian church in the present.


Connect with Sarah Ngu:

Twitter @sarahngu

IG @sarahngu

FB facebook.com/sarah.ngu

Website sarahngu.com

Newsletter sarahngu.substack.com


Resources Mentioned:

“Queer Faith: In Our Own Words” video

"The West can’t lay claim to LGBTQ2 acceptance" by Sarah Ngu

Gender Pluralism by Michael Peletz

Church Clarity - churchclarity.org

Donate to Church Clarity - churchclarity.org/contribute

Kumu Hina film

Pauline Park's website paulinepark.com

"My Experience with Spiritual Abuse at Remedy Church with Nicki Pappas" on Broadening the Narrative

"#ChurchToo and Domestic Violence with Emily Joy Allison" on Broadening the Narrative


The music from this episode is "Love Is" by Bandy. I want to thank Jordan Lukens for his help with editing and Danielle Bolin for creating the episode graphic. If you like what you hear in this episode, share it with a friend. I really think that little by little, person by person, we can broaden the narrative. In addition, make sure to subscribe so you don’t miss an episode. Then, rate and review to help others find the show.

Broadening the Narrative blog - broadeningthenarrative.blogspot.com

Broadening the Narrative on:

IG @broadeningthenarrative

Twitter @broadnarrative

Facebook - facebook.com/groups/broadeningthenarrative

Oct 26, 202101:01:52
44. Joy and Liberation with Tina Strawn (S3 E7)

44. Joy and Liberation with Tina Strawn (S3 E7)

In this episode, I talked with anti-racism facilitator, racial and social justice advocate, and pleasure activist Tina Strawn about joy and liberation in advocacy and activism. Tina is the Founder of Legacy Trips, which are three-day anti-racism trips visiting the National Memorial for Peace and Justice and the Legacy Museum: From Enslavement to Mass Incarceration in Montgomery, Alabama, and utilizing spiritual practices, such as yoga, as tools to dismantle racism. Tina is also the owner of the Speaking of Racism podcast, which has been downloaded over 350,000 times. The podcast is dedicated to frank, honest, and respectful discussions of racism in the U.S. Tina is part of the Blaxit social movement and currently living abroad while writing her book, “Are We Free Yet?”, and exploring and examining what it looks like and feels like for a queer Black womxn to be free and find home.


Connect with Tina Strawn:

IG @tina_strawn_life 

tina-strawn.com


Resources Mentioned:

Legacy Trips

Just Mercy by Bryan Stevenson

Equal Justice Initiative

The Legacy Museum

The National Memorial for Peace and Justice

"Moving Toward Greater Cosmic Wholeness with Emmy Kegler" on Broadening the Narrative

"#ChurchToo and Domestic Violence with Emily Joy Allison" on Broadening the Narrative

Row House Publishing


The music from this episode is "Love Is" by Bandy. I want to thank Jordan Lukens for his help with editing and Danielle Bolin for creating the episode graphic. If you like what you hear in this episode, share it with a friend. I really think that little by little, person by person, we can broaden the narrative. In addition, make sure to subscribe so you don’t miss an episode. Then, rate and review to help others find the show.

Broadening the Narrative blog - broadeningthenarrative.blogspot.com

Broadening the Narrative on:

IG @broadeningthenarrative

Twitter @broadnarrative

Facebook - facebook.com/groups/broadeningthenarrative

Oct 19, 202101:10:21
43. Including the “I” in LGBTQIA+ Responsibly with Mx. Anunnaki Ray Marquez (S3 E6)

43. Including the “I” in LGBTQIA+ Responsibly with Mx. Anunnaki Ray Marquez (S3 E6)

In this episode, I talked with gender and intersex activist & LGBTQIA+ visionary Mx. Anunnaki Ray Marquez. Anunnaki spoke about responsibly including the "I" in LGBTQIA+.


Connect with Mx. Anunnaki Ray Marquez:

IG @anunnakiray

Twitter @anunnakiray

Facebook - facebook.com/anunnakiray

Website - anunnakiray.com

Rainbow Human Rights Community Facebook Group


Resources Mentioned:

Intersex and Identity: The Contested Self by Sharon E. Preves

Intersex and Faith documentary

“Gender bound” - Judi Herring (TEDxJacksonville)

“Listen With Care: Build Bridges of Understanding”

“Born Intersex: We Are Human” - Mx. Anunnaki Ray Marquez (TEDxJacksonville)

“Why I feel INTERSEX should be added to the LGBTQ+ rainbow” by Mx. Anunnaki Ray Marquez

Beyond the Binary: Gender Nonconformist Facebook Group

Intersex Support for Parents Facebook Group

Intersex Haven Facebook Group


The music from this episode is "Love Is" by Bandy. I want to thank Jordan Lukens for his help with editing and Danielle Bolin for creating the episode graphic. If you like what you hear in this episode, share it with a friend. I really think that little by little, person by person, we can broaden the narrative. In addition, make sure to subscribe so you don’t miss an episode. Then, rate and review to help others find the show.

Broadening the Narrative blog - broadeningthenarrative.blogspot.com

Broadening the Narrative on:

IG @broadeningthenarrative

Twitter @broadnarrative

Facebook - facebook.com/groups/broadeningthenarrative


Original Photo Credit: Tiffany Manning (Jacksonville TEDx's photographer)

Oct 12, 202101:11:55
42. Moving Toward Greater Cosmic Wholeness with Emmy Kegler (S3 E5)
Oct 05, 202101:07:21
41. The Bible As Balm for Gender Expansive Christians with Austen Hartke (S3 E4)

41. The Bible As Balm for Gender Expansive Christians with Austen Hartke (S3 E4)

In this episode, I talked with Austen Hartke. Austen is the author of Transforming: The Bible and the Lives of Transgender Christians, the founder and director of Transmission Ministry Collective, and the creator of one hundred videos for the Transgender and Christian YouTube series. Austen explained how the bible can be a balm for gender expansive Christians. Austen is a returning guest, and you can listen to his episode titled "The Bible and the Lives of Transgender Christians" from season 2 if you haven't already.

Connect with Austen Hartke:

IG @transmissionministry

Twitter @TransmissionMin

Facebook @transmissionministry

Websites austenhartke.com & transmissionministry.com

YouTube Channel AustenLionheart


Resources Mentioned:

Transmission Ministry Collective Bookshop List - https://bookshop.org/shop/transmissionministry

Trans Affirming Churches by Christina Beardsley and Chris Dowd

Trans Allyship Workbook by Davey Shlasko

"Interview with Austen Hartke" on The Bible for Normal People

Sex Difference in Christian Theology by Megan DeFranza

One Coin Found by Emmy Kegler

Searching for Sunday by Rachel Held Evans

Inspired by Rachel Held Evans


The music from this episode is "Love Is" by Bandy. I want to thank Jordan Lukens for his help with editing and Danielle Bolin for creating the episode graphic. If you like what you hear in this episode, share it with a friend. I really think that little by little, person by person, we can broaden the narrative. In addition, make sure to subscribe so you don’t miss an episode. Then, rate and review to help others find the show.

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Twitter @broadnarrative

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Sep 28, 202101:07:04
40. Abolish the Police with Nandi Kayyy (S3 E3)

40. Abolish the Police with Nandi Kayyy (S3 E3)

In this episode, I talked with Nandi Kayyy. Nandi is a Southern-born, Queer, non-binary, artist, activist, and podcast host. We discussed the RIOT EP by Nandi Kayyy & The THEY Agenda, abolishing the police, and reimagining public safety. Nandi is a returning guest, and you can listen to their episode titled "All Black Lives Matter" from season 2 if you haven't already.


Connect with Nandi Kayyy:

IG @nandikayyy

Twitter @NandiKayyy

Facebook facebook.com/nandikayyy

Website nandikayyy.com

The RIOT EP nandikayyytheyagenda.bandcamp.com/releases

SoundCloud soundcloud.com/nandikayyy

Bandcamp bandcamp.com/nandikayyy

Black Friends Dinner podcast


The music from this episode is "Love Is" by Bandy. I want to thank Jordan Lukens for his help with editing and Danielle Bolin for creating the episode graphic. If you like what you hear in this episode, share it with a friend. I really think that little by little, person by person, we can broaden the narrative. In addition, make sure to subscribe so you don’t miss an episode. Then, rate and review to help others find the show.

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Twitter @broadnarrative

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Sep 21, 202101:04:04
39. #ChurchToo and Domestic Violence with Emily Joy Allison (S3 E2)

39. #ChurchToo and Domestic Violence with Emily Joy Allison (S3 E2)

In this episode, I talked with yoga teacher, poet, and author Emily Joy Allison. We discussed Emily Joy's book #ChurchToo and how the #ChurchToo movement connects to domestic violence. Order your copy of #ChurchToo wherever you buy your books. Emily Joy is a returning guest, and you can listen to her episode titled "#ChurchToo" from season 2 if you haven't already.


Connect with Emily Joy Allison:

IG @emilyjoypoetry

Twitter @emilyjoypoetry

Facebook facebook.com/emilyjoypoetry

Website emilyjoypoetry.com


Resources Mentioned:

The Institute for Creative Mindfulness

Church Clarity


The music from this episode is "Love Is" by Bandy. I want to thank Jordan Lukens for his help with editing and Danielle Bolin for creating the episode graphic. If you like what you hear in this episode, share it with a friend. I really think that little by little, person by person, we can broaden the narrative. In addition, make sure to subscribe so you don’t miss an episode. Then, rate and review to help others find the show.

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Sep 14, 202101:19:07
38. Befriending Depression with Sequana Murray (S3 E1)

38. Befriending Depression with Sequana Murray (S3 E1)

***Trigger warning for this episode as it includes references to attempted suicide as well as references to violence against youth and others in the LGBTQ+ community.***

In this episode, I talked with hip hop artist and poet Sequana Murray, or Bandy as she is known by her stage name. Sequana wrote "Love Is," the theme song for season 3, so we discussed the lyrics and her writing process. In the second half of our conversation, Sequana shared about her journey with depression and toward whole human health. Sequana was also a guest on the first full episode in season 1, "Intersection of Multiple Identities," and she was a guest in season 2. Her episode is titled "The Necessity of Reparations."

Connect with Bandy:

IG @bandythenomad

Twitter @MurraySequana

Bandcamp bandy17.bandcamp.com/

Website BandysNotebook.net


Resources Mentioned:

Broadening the Narrative “Becoming Boundaried with Kate Jaco”

Boundaries for Your Soul by Alison Cook and Kimberly Miller

Boundaries by Henry Cloud and John Townsend


The music from this episode is "Love Is" by Bandy. I want to thank Jordan Lukens for his help with editing and Danielle Bolin for creating the episode graphic. If you like what you hear in this episode, share it with a friend. I really think that little by little, person by person, we can broaden the narrative. In addition, make sure to subscribe so you don’t miss an episode. Then, rate and review to help others find the show.

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Twitter @broadnarrative

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Sep 07, 202101:09:42
37. Patriarchy is Not God’s Design with Meghan Tschanz (BONUS)

37. Patriarchy is Not God’s Design with Meghan Tschanz (BONUS)

In this episode, I talked with podcast host and author Meghan Tschanz about her new book Women Rising. We discussed patriarchy in the Christian church and how patriarchy is not God's design. You can purchase Women Rising through InterVarsity Press or wherever books are sold.

Connect with Meghan Tschanz:

IG @meghantschanz & @faithandfeminism

Facebook facebook.com/meghantschanzwrites & the Faith and Feminism Facebook group

Faith and Feminism podcast

Website: meghantschanz.com

Resources Mentioned:

Half the Church by Carolyn Custis James

Do Better by Rachel Ricketts

#ChurchToo by Emily Joy Allison

Dear Sister by Megan Wooding

Faith and Feminism “Ways LGBTQIA+ Experience Harm in the Church”

Heavy Burdens by Bridget Eileen Rivera

Jesus and John Wayne by Kristin Kobes Du Mez

Faith and Feminism “Ruler's Church vs People's Church Part 1” & “Ruler's Church vs People's Church Part 2”


The music from this episode is "Love Is" by Bandy. I want to thank Jordan Lukens for his help with editing and Danielle Bolin for creating the episode graphic. If you like what you hear in this episode, share it with a friend. I really think that little by little, person by person, we can broaden the narrative. In addition, make sure to subscribe so you don’t miss an episode. Then, rate and review to help others find the show.

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Twitter @broadnarrative

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Aug 17, 202101:00:02
36. Poetic Healing from Epigenetic Trauma with Xat Gómez (S2 E16)

36. Poetic Healing from Epigenetic Trauma with Xat Gómez (S2 E16)

In this episode, I talked with Xat Gómez. Xat works in community and new media integration. Established by an upbringing of communal power and epigenetic trauma, their work is focused on poetic healing. A Gilman Scholar, they conducted undergraduate research in Santiago de Chile, Rapa Nui, and Patagonia. They seek to visually facilitate pragmatic systems of access and dissemination. Graduating with a BFA and a Minor in Women and Gender studies from USF, they served in ArtistYear, an Americorp program in Philadelphia while learning full stack development at the UPenn’s Pennovation Center. They are a part of the Colombian diaspora and currently reside in Borinquén.


Connect with Xat Gómez: 

IG @xat.gom 

Website xatgomez.com


Resources Mentioned: 

Do Better by Rachel Ricketts

Homegoing by Yaa Gyasi

The Body Keeps the Score by Bessel van der Kolk

St. Pete Underground

The Communal Gospel

Evolving Faith podcast

The Undercommons: Fugitive Planning & Black Study by Fred Moten and Stefano Harney

Broadening the Narrative "Pastoring in a Pandemic with Rev. Melanie Vaughn-West"

It Didn't Start with You by Mark Wolynn


The music from this episode is "Raindrops" by Bandy featuring Sedonte Rouland, Vokul, and Gwen T. I want to thank Jordan Lukens for his help with editing and Danielle Bolin for creating the episode graphic. If you like what you hear in this episode, share it with a friend. I really think that little by little, person by person, we can broaden the narrative. In addition, make sure to subscribe so you don’t miss an episode. Then, rate and review to help others find the show.

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Broadening the Narrative on:

IG @broadeningthenarrative

Twitter @broadnarrative

Facebook - facebook.com/groups/broadeningthenarrative

May 25, 202101:18:40
35. Using the Enneagram to Live from Your Essence & Not Your Ego with Milton Stewart (S2 E15)

35. Using the Enneagram to Live from Your Essence & Not Your Ego with Milton Stewart (S2 E15)

In this episode, I talked with Certified Enneagram and Career Coach Milton Stewart. Milton is also the host of the Do It For The Gram podcast. We discussed using the Enneagram to live from your essence and not your ego. 


Connect with Milton Stewart:

IG @doitforthegrampodcast

Do It For The Gram: An Enneagram Podcast

Website: kaizencareers.com


Resources Mentioned:

Do It For The Gram "100th Episode Celebration!"

The Body Keeps the Score by Bessel van der Kolk

Do Better by Rachel Ricketts

Broadening the Narrative "Nightmares, Daydreams, and Prophecies with Micah Bournes" 

Broadening the Narrative "Life as an Artist with Marquis Love" 

Broadening the Narrative "Pastoring in a Pandemic with Reverend Melanie Vaughn-West"


Upcoming Events Mentioned:

International Enneagram Association Conference - July 16-18, 2021 (discount code: Discovery4)

Kaizen Complete Enneagram Program - begins Aug. 5, 2021

Enneagram Summit 


The music from this episode is "More Love" by Bandy. I want to thank Jordan Lukens for his help with editing and Danielle Bolin for creating the episode graphic. If you like what you hear in this episode, share it with a friend. I really think that little by little, person by person, we can broaden the narrative. In addition, make sure to subscribe so you don’t miss an episode. Then, rate and review to help others find the show.

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Broadening the Narrative on:

IG @broadeningthenarrative

Twitter @broadnarrative

Facebook - facebook.com/groups/broadeningthenarrative

May 18, 202101:14:03
34. Raise Your Voice with Kathy Khang (S2 E14)

34. Raise Your Voice with Kathy Khang (S2 E14)

In this episode, I talked with writer, speaker, and yoga teacher Kathy Khang. We discussed Kathy's book Raise Your Voice: Why We Stay Silent and How to Speak Up.

Connect with Kathy Khang:

IG @mskathykhang

Twitter @mskathykhang

Website kathykhang.com

The Fascinating Podcast

Chasing Justice podcast


Resources Mentioned:

"Body Language with Kathy Khang" on HER with Amena Brown

They Were Her Property by Stephanie Jones-Rogers

"Letter from a Birmingham Jail" by Rev. Martin Luther King Jr.

I'm Still Here by Austin Channing Brown 

AAPI Women Lead on Instagram

"Screams and Silence" on Code Switch


The music from this episode is "Broken Record" featuring Lucee by Micah Bournes and Jasmine Rodriguez. I want to thank Jordan Lukens for his help with editing and Danielle Bolin for creating the episode graphic. If you like what you hear in this episode, share it with a friend. I really think that little by little, person by person, we can broaden the narrative. In addition, make sure to subscribe so you don’t miss an episode. Then, rate and review to help others find the show.

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Broadening the Narrative on:

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Twitter @broadnarrative

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May 11, 202101:08:29
33. Examining the Bible We Have with David Cady (S2 E13)

33. Examining the Bible We Have with David Cady (S2 E13)

In this episode, I talked with David Cady. David pastors a church in Hawaii called The Well. We discussed what the bible is and ways to engage with it.


Connect with The Well:

Website - thewellhawaii.org

IG - @thewellhawaii


Resources Mentioned:

Inspired by Rachel Held Evans


The music from this episode is "Humming Fools" by Micah Bournes. I want to thank Jordan Lukens for his help with editing and Danielle Bolin for creating the episode graphic. If you like what you hear in this episode, share it with a friend. I really think that little by little, person by person, we can broaden the narrative. In addition, make sure to subscribe so you don’t miss an episode. Then, rate and review to help others find the show.

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May 04, 202101:28:29
32. The Bible and the Lives of Transgender Christians with Austen Hartke (S2 E12)

32. The Bible and the Lives of Transgender Christians with Austen Hartke (S2 E12)

In this episode, I talked with Austen Hartke. Austen is the author of Transforming: The Bible and the Lives of Transgender Christians, the founder and director of Transmission Ministry Collective, and the creator of one hundred videos for the Transgender and Christian YouTube series. In addition to discussing Austen’s book, we also talked about current anti-transgender legislation and how to oppose these bills.

Connect with Austen Hartke:

IG @transmissionministry

Twitter @TransmissionMin

Facebook @transmissionministry

Websites austenhartke.com & transmissionministry.com

YouTube Channel AustenLionheart


Resources Mentioned:

"Interview with Austen Hartke" on The Bible for Normal People

"2021 Becomes Record Year For Anti-Transgender Legislation" by Wyatt Ronan

National Center for Transgender Equality site - State Action Center

"Christena Cleveland - Getting Free" on Almost Heretical

Brooke Henderson Instagram Post

Trans Affirming Churches by Christina Beardsley and Chris Dowd


The music from this episode is "Raindrops" by Bandy featuring Sedonte Rouland, Vokul, and Gwen T. I want to thank Jordan Lukens for his help with editing and Danielle Bolin for creating the episode graphic. If you like what you hear in this episode, share it with a friend. I really think that little by little, person by person, we can broaden the narrative. In addition, make sure to subscribe so you don’t miss an episode. Then, rate and review to help others find the show.

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Broadening the Narrative on:

IG @broadeningthenarrative

Twitter @broadnarrative

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Apr 27, 202101:03:13
31. When Your Christian Theology Is Considered Heretical with Jordan Lukens (S2 E11)

31. When Your Christian Theology Is Considered Heretical with Jordan Lukens (S2 E11)

In this episode, I talked with Jordan Lukens. Jordan and I met almost 10 years ago because he was the worship leader at the church where I was a member. We discussed various doctrines we once believed that were taught to us within evangelicalism, what we are theologically exploring now, and how it feels to lose your community when you're considered apostate.  


Resources Mentioned:

"#ChurchToo with Emily Joy Allison" on Broadening the Narrative

The Naked Pastor

What If Project podcast

"Christian Nationalism: Diagnosis & Treatment" on You Have Permission

"All Black Lives Matter with Nandi Kayyy" on Broadening the Narrative

Everything is Spiritual by Rob Bell


The music from this episode is "Humming Fools" by Micah Bournes. I want to thank Jordan Lukens for his help with editing and Danielle Bolin for creating the episode graphic. If you like what you hear in this episode, share it with a friend. I really think that little by little, person by person, we can broaden the narrative. In addition, make sure to subscribe so you don’t miss an episode. Then, rate and review to help others find the show.

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Apr 20, 202102:11:53