Burn Out

Burn Out

By Anupa
Short conversations about creative sustainability.
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BURN OUT #009: FT. ZAKI IBRAHIM
"I don't want to compete with machines. That's not my incentive. I've always been protective about the art part." - Zaki Ibrahim A true musical talent and total sweetheart, Zaki Ibrahim moves between Toronto and South Africa making soulful, spiritual pop music that's inspired by the history of Black electronic music. She's one of my favourite local artists; someone whose music and live shows I'm always excited to take in. We talked about what it's like to build a career as an artist when you have a nomadic spirit and minimal allegiance to the constraints of modern music marketing and consumption. ๐Ÿ”ŠZaki Ibrahim, "Intro," "Something In The Water," "Diamond Time," "Cut Loose" Subscribe to the newsletter ๐Ÿ’Œ anupa.substack.com
27:20
June 14, 2019
BURN OUT #008: FT. AKUA
"I felt so aware of how long it took me to finish my album. It felt immense how much time had passed, losing my dad, moving to a new city; it was so strange to feel a lack, on a day that marked an accomplishment." - Akua Akua recently released her first record, Them Spirits, and it is a gorgeous, cosmic, intimate record created during a time of suspended grief. She tells me about developing her confidence as an artist despite coming to music in her university (or, college) years in Montreal, writing songs in snatches between touring with Solange, moving to L.A., and unearthing a body of work as she learned how to produce herself. Thank you to Harry Knazen at Apollo Studios for the recording time, and Akua's mom for hanging out. ย ๐Ÿ”ŠAkua, "To Show," "If," "Heaven," "Offering" Subscribe to the newsletter ๐Ÿ’Œ anupa.substack.com
24:42
June 14, 2019
BURN OUT #007: FT. ALANNA STUART
"I think I was afraid that I would go away and be forgotten, but then I found that you show up and pick up where you left off. People don't forget you once you're honest and true." - Alanna Stuart of Bonjay In April I found myself in Jamaica, hanging out in Kingston with Alanna, eating all of the fruits, and listening to old tunes by Snow and Toni Braxton. On my last night in the city, she and I sat on the porch to record this episode โ€” so, yes, there are dogs barking, and cicadas chirping, and the occasional growl of passing car, but it's vibes. This one is about the methodological differences between the Toronto and Kingston scenes, and finding your creative confidence in unexpected places. ๐Ÿ”ŠBonjay, "Brick & High Beam," "Post-Urban," "Medicine For Melancholy" Subscribe to the newsletter ๐Ÿ’Œ anupa.substack.com
24:46
June 14, 2019
BURN OUT #006: FT. JASMYN BURKE
"When your career is starting to get bigger it highlights all those things you thought being popular would fixย โ€” it does *not* fix them." - Jasmyn Burke of Weaves Recording this ep with Jasmyn was what I imagine hanging out with Rihanna would feel like โ€” just a unexpectedly glowy moment between two women talking about snacks and yoga and handling your shit. Jasmyn spoke openly about breaking away from her Type A model student days, as well as how being biracial affects life in the public eye. Featuring laughter and commentary from the lovely Vicky Mochama of Vocal Fry Studios. ๐Ÿ”ŠWeaves: "Slicked," "Scream Ft. Tanya Tagaq," "Wide Open" Subscribe to the newsletter ๐Ÿ’Œ anupa.substack.com
25:56
February 25, 2019
BURN OUT #005: FT. JAHMAL PADMORE
"I thought it would be a miracle if I could get back to where I was as an artist." - Jahmal Padmore This episode was really hard to cut because Jahmal is a really good storyteller, and he's been grinding for a minute! We talked about almost all of it โ€” from his early days in church, and playing in The Carps and Thunderheist, to blowing an audition to tour with an artist you've definitely heard of. Jahmal speaks about regenerating these experiences and getting out of his own way in order to move forward. ๐Ÿ”ŠMiracles, "money : philosophy : tragedy *[interlude]" Subscribe to the newsletter ๐Ÿ’Œ anupa.substack.com
29:53
February 25, 2019
BURN OUT #004: FT. L CON
"I'm thinking a lot, a lot, all the time about music and privilege. I'm teaching recording right now, but some of my students don't have a computer or a phone. There's a lot of privilege involved to make a record on your own." - Lisa Conway Lisa and I talk about her incredible 2018 album Insecurities In Being, what it means to make a record *about* being burnt out, and how to make a living as a working musician. She also shares some useful context about grants and residencies.ย  ๐Ÿ”ŠL CON: "You Were Right," "Try," "The Art of Staying Tough Ft. Casey MQ," "Some Sort of Sign" Subscribe to the newsletter ๐Ÿ’Œ anupa.substack.com
26:20
February 25, 2019
BURN OUT #002: FT. SYDANIE
โ€œI canโ€™t really afford to be around people who make me feel small for what I donโ€™t have." - Sydanie Sydanie and I talk about her life growing up in Toronto's Jane & Finch neighbourhood, how to be a DIY rapper, her latest album 999, and the unique pressures of being a young Black woman making art in Toronto. ๐Ÿ”Š "999," "Pluto In Scorpio," "Error 404" Subscribe to the newsletter: anupa.substack.com
24:47
January 21, 2019
BURN OUT #001: FT. SHAD
"That thing that you're scared of... it might not be real." - Shad Shad and I talk about his new album, A Short Story About A War, how being scared of ourselves and each other manifests in the political sphere, and what it's like to be a rapper slash radio personality slash rap documentary host.ย  ๐Ÿ”Š"The Fool Pt. 1 (Get It Got It Good)," "The Fool Pt. 3 (Frame of Mind)," "Magic Ft. Lido Pimienta" Subscribe to the newsletter: anupa.substack.com
28:06
January 21, 2019
BURN OUT #003: FT. TANIKA CHARLES
"I still get a little depressed, even though I'm very happy with what's happening in my life, which is being on the road. I just wanted to be on the road." - Tanika Charles Tanika and I talk about learning new skills, working a part-time job in order to keep it moving, and manifestation + meditation + all that woo woo shit. ๐Ÿ”Š"Soul Run," "Parkdale" Subscribe to the newsletter: anupa.substack.com
22:07
January 21, 2019
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