Pavilion Conversations with C. S
By C. S Chiwanza
No. This is not a podcast about the match, but it is about the people involved in the matches. the kind of thing a fan might want to discuss with a coach or player or someone who knows them or has written written something about them. It's about the human beings who take part in sports. We have conversations that helps one to know them better.
Past guests include Allan Donald, Enoch Nkwe, Grant Morgan, Farhaan Behardien, Andy Birrel, Sarel Erwee, Ian Pont, Eric Simons and Prasanna Lara.
Pavilion Conversations with C. SApr 13, 2021
Keaton Jennings: Getting stronger, faster, better everyday
When Keaton Jennings packed his bags to leave South Africa for England, he didn't have much of a plan. He just wanted to play cricket and hoped to make it. His father made him promise one thing, that he would not abandon his varsity studies. 11 years later, Keaton Jennings has played international cricket, scoring a century on debut, he is also pursuing his Master's degree, while he plays professional cricket for Lancashire County Cricket Club.
Keaton joined me to chat about cricket, his journey and the debut 100.
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Heinrich Klaasen: "I am always looking to serve."
Heinrich Klaasen has come a long way and still has a long way to go. Just a week before his Proteas call up, he couldn't afford tickets to go and watch the Proteas play. Now he is an important member of the team's batting lineup and also the leadership group. Klaasen is calm, collected and always eager to do whatever that is needed of him by the team.
In this episode, we discuss parts of his career.
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Jimmy Cook: Developing Future Stars
Jimmy Cook started playing cricket in the 1960s as a young boy, and he started coaching cricket in the 1970s just as his career as a teacher was taking off. For years he balanced teaching, coaching, playing cricket and football. Jimmy Cook has coached elite players who include Jos Buttler, Graeme Smith, Devon Conway and both his sons, Stephen and Ryan Cook. Jimmy Cook currently runs the Jimmy Cook Cricket Academy.
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Devon Conway Finding his Place
In 2017 Devon Conway left South Africa for New Zealand, he needed a fresh start from everything. Though he knew that he belonged on the cricket field, for most of his career in South Africa, it did not feel like that. His love for the sport was waning. He needed to rediscover himself and fall in love with cricket all over again. It happened when he was playing club cricket and coaching primary school kids in New Zealand.
In June 2021 he scored 200 runs on his Test debut for New Zealand. He felt at home.
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Alviro Petersen: Competing with the best
As a cricketer, Alviro Petersen always had one goal, and that was not to become the best opener or one of the best openers in South African cricket. He had bigger dreams, he wanted to be one of the best batters in South African cricket. It is a mindset that served him well through a career with lots of ups and downs.
We talk about his century on debut, his journey as a cricketer and life after cricket.
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Steven Cook Claiming his Spot in History
Being Jimmy Cook's son was great, because he was a great father and it's always nice to have a personal coach in Jimmy Cook to help you find your path in the game. But, in the professional arena, it had its own issues when it came to Stephen Cook. His career seemed to be overshadowed by his father's. It looked as if he was destined to be 'Stephen Cook, Jimmy Cook's son', and never just Stephen Cook the cricketer.
In January 2016, Stephen Cook claimed his spot in international cricket and cricket history with a century on his Test debut.
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Introduction
This is not a podcast about the match, but it is about the people involved in the matches. the kind of thing a fan might want to discuss with a coach or player or someone who knows them or has written written something about them. It's about the human beings who take part in sports. We have conversations that helps one to know them better.
Past guests include Allan Donald, Enoch Nkwe, Grant Morgan, Farhaan Behardien, Andy Birrel, Sarel Erwee, Ian Pont, Eric Simons and Prasanna Lara.
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Gary Kirsten: "I want to add value."
Gary Kirsten is a World Cup winning coach. That is a big deal, he is one of a handful of South Africans to lift a cricket world cup. But he doesn't let that go to his head. He remains grounded, and whether it is in the community or coaching professional cricketers, Gary Kirsten is focused on only one thing, adding value. That is what he seeks to do with the Gary Kirsten Foundation and CoachEd.
I caught up with the respected and World Cup winning coach and discussed his career, his motivation and playing alongside Peter Kirsten.
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Dean du Plessis on Zimbabwe
Dean du Plessis has been cricket commentary for 20 years now. He is one of the few commentators from Zimbabwe, and the first blind cricket commentator. Dean depends on stump mics to know and understand what is happening on the pitch and can tell from sounds who is bowling and other critical information about the game.
Of course, each time someone interviews him they invariably ask him about his blindness and how he does his job. That is not what this episode is about. In this episode we chat about one of his friends, Andy Flower, and his great love, Zimbabwe Cricket.
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Dean du Plessis is also on Twitter: https://twitter.com/dean_plessis
He has a podcast, Dean At Stumps: https://anchor.fm/dean-du-plessis
JP Duminy: It's about shared experiences.
A cricket career is a journey, and each journey is different. But, there are also so many similarities in the things that players experience. This is why JP Duminy wants to be a part of the journeys that young players are embarking on. So that he can help where he can, and also take lessons that he can also learn from so that he can help others. Shared experiences are what make the journey less daunting and they also make life richer.
In this podcast JP Duminy shares his journey and his current endeavors that include coaching, commentary and the work that he is doing with his foundation, JP21 Foundation.
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Dev Govindjee: For the love of cricket
Dev Govindjee's cricket career started when there were close to no facilities for people of color. Dev, achieved one of the greatest honors for people at the time: to play in the annual North vs South tournament where the best of the best of the South African Cricket Board of Control players took part in. He also has one of the best records by a spinner, ever, in the period.
In this episode, Dev takes along the path that he walked to the present, where he is now a match referee.
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Kirsten van Heerden: Mental toughness and mental wellbeing
Sports and performance psychologist Kirsten van Heerden is a former member of Team SA. She represented South Africa on a number of platforms that include the Olympics and Commonwealth Games. Now she works with athletes, many cricketers, helping them to develop mental toughness and maintain good mental health.
In this episode we explore some of her work with sportspeople.
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Dr. Kirsten van Heerden is also on Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/kirstvanh
She has a podcast, Behind The Dream: https://www.buzzsprout.com/377435
Dave Nosworthy: It's about the people.
One of Dave Nosworthy's big things is paying attention, learning as much as he can about the place, environment and about the individuals, before he makes decisions. Culture is important to him.
In this episode he shares his journey, philosophy, motivation and mentorship.
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Dave Nosworthy is on Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/DONCRICKET
You can also follow the work he does with other coaches and professionals here: https://www.cricketmentor.com or follow them on Twitter on https://www.twitter.com/Cricket_Mentor
Dan Weston: Taking a closer look at the numbers.
In this episode Dan Weston walks me through The Hundred and T20 cricket using numbers.
Numbers have always been Dan's thing, he has an accounting degree and then from there became a professional gambler playing online poker and slots. Now he is using his numbers to make sense of cricket: players, matches and teams. He is a data analyst for Birmingham Phoenix and Leicestershire CCC. He also provides recruitment data and strategy services for teams. He has done well for himself for someone who only played village cricket.
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Glenn Pocknall: "Think outside the box."
Glenn Pocknall is one of those rare ones. It is not often that an individual without a substantial history in the sport gets to go very far. There is a distrust for "outsiders", and by virtue of not having played cricket at any professional level, Glenn is an outsider of sorts. The Wellington Firebirds coach shares the story of his journey in this conversation, where he also shares some of his out of the box methods at training.
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Mangi Mosehle: "I want to make a difference."
The boy from Duduza who had lunch at Lord's, that is the easiest way to describe Mangaliso Mosehle's journey. In this episode Mangi shares his highs and lows, being selected for the Proteas and losing his franchise contract the very next year. He shares the lessons that he learnt from that experience and what his nomadic wicketkeeping career has taught him - it is easier to count the franchises he hasn't played for than the ones he played for, and he has won a few titles along the way.
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Tabraiz Shamsi: "Do the best you can, and have fun." [Pavilion Conversations Ep. #14]
Tabraiz Shamsi is a rare kind of cricketer, you aren't going to see a lot of chinaman bowlers, let alone one from South Africa who does a bit of magic to entertain the crowd. Shamsi is a showman to the hilt, and he does enjoy a good scrap in the middle, he does not know how to back down from a fight. He keeps coming back and trying to find ways to get the upper hand.
In this episode of Pavilion Conversations, we chat about his journey as a cricketer, and what makes him the kind of player he is.
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Sarel Erwee: Evolving into a better individual [Pavilion Conversations Ep. #13]
SJ, as most of his mates call him, has really come a long way both as a cricketer and as an individual. He is not yet a finished product, but he has arrived at a place where he is happy with the individual that he has become - and the one that he is becoming. Together we trace the path of his career in this great chat.
Dev Govindjee: "Local legends should not be forgotten." [Pavilion Conversations Ep. #12]
The lifeblood of any sports code is the grassroots, the local clubs and the semi-pros. Without them there is no hope for growth and development. In this short chat, Dev Govindjee walks me through the Port Elizabeth Sports Legends Trust. The PESTL was formed to recognize and celebrate some of Port Elizabeth's sporting heroes, the men and women who participated in sports during a very difficult era for South African sports. Many of them went uncelebrated and live with little recognition to the role they played in laying the foundations of sports in their communities.
Adi Birrel: "It's about the people that play the game." [Pavilion Conversations Ep. #11]
Adi Birrel started coaching in a very different era, in the 1980s. He was 24 and things were very different back then. So, it's safe to say he has seen it all. From coaching kids without equipment and proper facilities in the townships to taking Ireland to the 2007 World Cup and then now at Hampshire County Cricket Club, Birrel has coached at every level.
Ian Pont: "Anyone can get better." [Pavilion Conversations Ep. #10]
Anyone with the guts to title their book "The Fast Bowler's Bible" must know what they are talking about, right? If that person's name is Ian Pont, then yes, they are not all talk and no substance. Look, anyone who gets a glowing mention in Shoaib Akhtar's book as a coach who had an impact on his bowling has to be worth their weight in gold. And it is not just Shoaib whom Pont has coached with great results, add Dale Steyn to that list. Ponty runs one of the most respected coaching schools when it comes to fast bowling.
Michael Smith: 'Players need psychological safety.' [Pavilion Conversations Ep. #09]
From being a replacement player to one of the most respected coaches in South African, that is the story of Michael Smith. Smith coached at age-group level cricket with successful spells with Maritzburg and Grey Colleges to professional cricket with KZN Inland and Islamabad United in the Pakistan Super League.
Heinrich Malan: "Creating clarity." [Pavilion Conversations Ep. #08]
In 2018 Heinrich Malan lost the opportunity to succeed Mike Hesson as the new coach of the Black Caps. It is a setback that he took in stride, never been one to brood about missed opportunities. And now three years later he is back in the Black Caps set up, this time as an assistant coach, called in by the man who beat him to the top job, Gary Stead.
Malan, has won a significant number of titles in New Zealand with Central Districts Stags and with his current side Auckland Aces. The Pretoria-born coach has been coaching for as long as he can remember.
Farhaan Berhadien: "Don't read the good if you can't read the bad." [Pavilion Conversations Ep. #07]
Not many cricketers can play up to 20 seasons of professional cricket, and that is the milestone that Farhaan Behardien is aiming for. It does not look too far off, he has played 18 so far and is about to play in his 19th season. In this episode, Fudgie - the kid from the Cape Flats - takes me through his entry into cricket, a career threatening injury, social media and the importance of having the right team environment for players to perform at their best. We also touched on the IPL, very briefly.
Eric Simons: "Sport is a microcosm of life." [Pavilion Conversations Ep. #06]
Eric Simons is one of only two former South African players and active coaches to lift an ODI World Cup trophy. He did so with India alongside Gary Kirsten with India in 2011. Kirsten was head coach of the Indian ODI side while Simons was the bowling coach. A big believer in the power of influence in building teams, Simons discusses his philosophy and methods in this episode of the Idea-Sharing Project.
● On motivation: “I derive a lot of joy and satisfaction in knowing that I have done a great job in the development of a player.”
● On always learning: “Everything is a learning experience.
Prasanna Lara: "People must trust the person before they can trust the numbers." [Pavilion Conversations Ep. 05]
A conversation that touches on the days he used to be looked at weirdly, climbing trees in an attempt to get a good shot of the pitch and capture valuable data, to the days when his value began to be appreciated and respected by teams and fans. His relationship with Proteas players both from the present and the past.
P Dogg, as Prasanna Lara is known, was the Proteas men's team's performance analyst from 2011 to 2021.
Allan Donald: “I Want To Add Value, So I Won't Stop Learning.” [Pavilion Conversations EP. #04]
ICC Hall of Famer, Allan Donald shares his journey from his playing days to his new chapter as a coach.
When he decided to pursue coaching: “I made a decision when I was still playing, I just didn’t know in what capacity…”
Awareness of your abilities: A lot of players do not make good coaches. They might have all the knowledge, but they might not have the skill to transfer that.
On Motivation: It’s so gratifying, so satisfying when you know you have made a difference in someone’s life, in someone’s career.
On Bad Apples: You are always going to get bad eggs, bad apples, bad toffees… and they drag the team down. And you have to be straight with them so that they don’t destroy the culture you are trying to build.
To read a little bit more on Allan Donald, check out this brief profile of him: Allan Donald.
Tim Wigmore: It All Comes Down To Competitive Advantage [Pavilion Conversations EP. #03]
Wiggo, as Tim Wigmore is known by a lot of people within the sports-writing community, and cricket circles, is one of those guys you can just down with for a chat. Knowledgeable, easy to chat with and always ready to share what he has learnt along the way.
To learn more about Tim Wigmore, here is a brief profile about him: Tim Wigmore.
"The more you listen, the more you learn." - Enoch Nkwe [Pavilion Conversations Ep. #02]
South Africa men’s cricket national team assistant coach, Enoch Nkwe, is an individual beloved by many because of his outlook and approach to both the sport and the team. Empathetic and attentive, it is easy to see why he has achieved such a significant number of milestones in a relatively young coaching career. Forced to stop playing professional cricket very early into a promising career, Enoch looks destined for greater accomplishments in the future.
On leadership: “True leadership is not about authority, it’s about developing people and helping them reach their full potential.”
On culture: “Consistency is key. Once there is consistency, everybody starts to believe and see the benefits of it. The benefits shouldn’t be centred around the results of the culture, it should just be about living the culture.”
On dressing-room environment: “My duty as a coach is to create an environment where my team members have the courage to be themselves.”
On the team: “I have always been a team person. I have always wanted the team to do well. Everything is centred around the team for me.”
To read more on Enoch Nkwe, check out this brief profile of him on chadwickdrive.com
Grant Morgan: A Little Better Each Day [Pavilion Conversations Ep. #01]
Morgs, as Grant Morgan is affectionately known, is one of South Africa's most successful and respected cricket coaches. One of the few to have coached at every level of the game, from amateur cricket to international cricket.