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Going In Circles

By Charles Simon
Horse racing discussions, stories and interviews too BUT trainer-speak not allowed here! If it’s mundane, we don’t care about it. I promise to never, ever give out my selections unless it’s a Let it Ride scenario where people are looking for toss outs.

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Going in Circles LIVE KY Derby edition with THT’s Kerry Thomas

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Going in Circles LIVE with Frank Vespe presented by BRL Equine and Pleasant Acres Farm
On today’s Going in Circles LIVE we discuss the breaking news that Medina Spirit will be allowed to compete in the Preakness, what people are getting wrong about the situation and how the fallout will affect racing for years to come. We are joined by The Racing Biz’s Frank Vespe who is at Pimlico covering today’s post position draw.
01:15:40
May 11, 2021
Going in Circles BIG MONDAY show with Barry Spears
On tonight’s BIG MONDAY show we talked about....what else...the Kentucky Derby fiasco and how it’s gonna probably get worse if you can imagine that 🤦🏼‍♂️
01:37:58
May 11, 2021
Going in Circles Latest Industry Disaster special edition
🤷🏼‍♂️ everyone happy now?
29:19
May 9, 2021
Going in Circles Special Edition with Daniel Wallach regarding sports betting/racing in Florida
On this special edition of Going in Circles we are joined by Daniel Wallach of Wallach Legal (@WALLACHLEGAL) to talk about the proposed gaming compact between the State of Florida and the Seminole Tribe and the potential fallout from its ratification by the Florida Legislature during the Special Session May 17-21. Sports betting is the big ticket item for this compact but there are also a number of other issues that might prove to be extremely negative for the horse racing industry in Florida. It’s a complex but vitally important issue that Daniel does a good job walking us through.
58:55
May 7, 2021
Going in Circles LIVE w/ THT’s Pete Denk presented by BRL Equine and Pleasant Acres Farm 🏇🏻
We sit down with THT Bloodstock’s Pete Denk to review the Kentucky Derby and see where their annual report on the Derby field was in regards to the actual results of the race. We also talk about the Preakness and what might play out at Pimlico next weekend and discuss some areas of racing that we would like to see addressed. Even a little Chicago Bears 🐻 plug for the long suffering fans including Pete!
01:32:58
May 4, 2021
Going in Circles LIVE w/Steve Screnci of FHBPA
On today’s Going in Circles LIVE we speak to the President of the FHBPA Steve Screnci about the potential fallout for horseracing from the Florida legislature’s special session on gaming to be held May 17 in Tallahassee. The gaming compact between the Seminole Tribe and State of Florida is the primary focus though separate bills to establish a gaming commission and another to officially decouple racetracks casino revenue from horsemen are on the agenda. Steve runs us through how we got to this point and what steps might be necessary in order to keep the racing game growing as well as updates negotiations with CDI on various other issues.
53:38
May 4, 2021
Going in Circles BIG MONDAY show w/Barry Spears - Derby weekend recap- presented by BRL Equine
On tonight’s BIG MONDAY show we recap the Kentucky Derby weekend, talking about the big race, the Oaks, the undercard stakes, what the Preakness might look like, dumb conspiracy theories, truthful conspiracy theories, streaming and the future of racing telecasts and an ode to Pompano Park where the template for wagering growth success was set....are any other tracks paying attention? Also brought up the TIP series on wagering security or lack thereof and are the pools secure?
02:15:43
May 4, 2021
Going in Circles SPECIAL KY OAKS and DERBY card preview w/Barry Spears
On this special KENTUCKY OAKS & DERBY edition of Going in Circles Barry and I go over the next two days racing cards, pointing out some great long shots, beatable favorites and try to provide some information and angles that you won’t get from just looking at the past performances. If you missed the Going in Circles Digest this week look for it on our Facebook page!
02:07:12
April 30, 2021
Going in Circles LIVE KY Derby edition with THT’s Kerry Thomas
On the second part of today’s Going in Circles LIVE Derby edition we are joined by THT Bloodstock’s Kerry Thomas to talk about his annual report on the Kentucky Derby field’s psychological makeup called the THT Bloodstock’s Kentucky Derby Herd Dynamics analysis. He gives a sneak preview talking about Known Agenda and how his rail draw may affect his performance. He has had a lot of success in past Derbies in tossing horses that weren’t suited for the chaos of a 20 horse field and identifying those that are! Check it out at THTbloodstock.com or on the BRISnet.com data page as soon as it’s released (est Wednesday pm)
25:10
April 27, 2021
Going in Circles LIVE KY Derby pod w/ Doug Salvatore presented by BRL Equine & Pleasant Acres Farm
On today’s Going in Circles LIVE we are joined by the best racing analyst in the business, the reclusive Doug Salvatore, to go over the field for Saturday’s Kentucky Derby. Going horse by horse Doug’s in-depth analysis is as thorough as you will find and you will want to hear what he says about many of the favorites. As a bonus he gives out a couple of NFL Draft selections 🏈 (yes they have betting on the NFL draft!)
01:30:36
April 27, 2021
Going in Circles BIG MONDAY w/ Barry Spears (presented by BRL Equine and Pleasant Acres Farm)
On tonight’s Big Monday show Barry and I talk about the Kentucky Oaks, the undercard and it’s softness, post Derby attrition, is Fiya ready for the big time, NYC OTB stories, Beemie awards “rooting” video, more on why racing needs to shift the way it promotes wagers, announce Doug Salvatore will be on tomorrow’s GIC LIVE show (he is banned from FB....again) and thing that Pete Rinato is doing, sponsoring tickets for random players, promoting the game out of love for it!
01:53:01
April 27, 2021
Going in Circles LIVE w/Bobby Neuman
On the second part of today’s Going in Circles LIVE we are joined by Bobby Neuman, HRRN Race Day show co-host and new track announcer at Praire Meadows to talk about that new position, announcer booth issues and a little bit about the looming Kentucky Derby
41:45
April 20, 2021
Going in Circles LIVE with Gabe Prewitt - presented by BRL Equine and Pleasant Acres farms
On part one of today’s Going in Circles LIVE we speak with Gabe Prewitt, Director of Racing for Caesar’s Entertainment, best known for his work at Pompano Park, the Red Mile and as leader of the #senditin army about the dramatic rise of Pompano Park’s handle, the methods that were used and how they can benefit any racetrack regardless of breed. We also talked about Gabe’s entry into racing, how he has held a plethora of different jobs including track announcer and the way he has used his experience as a gambler/handicapper to his benefit as a racing executive. Of course the story of Command the Fire, the horse that wouldn’t leave.
01:11:32
April 20, 2021
Going in Circles Big Monday w/Barry Spears (special Guest host Jason Beides)
On tonight’s Going in Circles Big Monday show presented by BRL Equine and Pleasant Acres Farm we are joined by Jason Beides agent for jockey Jose Lezcano subbing for an under the weather Barry. Jason and I discuss the Apple Blossom and the strategy employed by the various jockeys, the ever changing Derby field and the thought that the Preakness might be a better field, the early opening of Belmont and what that means for NYRA players and a little bit of Yonkers mixed in as well.
01:32:21
April 20, 2021
Going in Circles LIVE with special guest Harlan Malter of IronHorse Racing
On part 2 of today’s show we speak with Harlan Malter of IronHorse Racing about his beginnings in racing, talk about starting up a racing partnership and finish up on Bucchero who Ironhorse successfully campaigned and who is now standing stud at Pleasant Acres Farm in Florida with his first yearlings selling this summer. A fun conversation!
02:30:59
April 13, 2021
Going in Circles LIVE with special guest Kenny McPeek
On part one of today’s Going in Circles LIVE we speak with Kenny McPeek about the big showdown this Saturday at Oaklawn between Swiss Skydiver and Monomoy Girl. We touch on a few racing industry topics and Kenny also talks about his frustration in dealing with various racing organizations when trying to get access for his racing app Horseraces Now.
01:13:48
April 13, 2021
Going in Circles BIG Monday show w/ Barry Spears - presented by BRL Equine and Pleasant Acres Farm
On tonight’s Going in Circles Big Monday show we recap the Derby trail and talk about how the point system needs to be tweaked and not make the last round of preps seem like a powerball ticket. Talk about how different horses are being prepared, how you can’t prevent injuries or early development and how it doesn’t bode well for their long term outlook trying to manipulate either. Speak about the great video link that the Going in Circles Digest had today or the 1978 Kentucky Derby featuring Affirmed.
02:37:42
April 13, 2021
Going in Circles LIVE with Thoroughbred Retirement Foundations Kim Weir
We talked to TRF’s Kim Weir about their newest aftercare facility located right outside of Louisville, Kentucky in Prospect. She also told us about a special edition of Woodford Reserve commemorative limited edition Kentucky Derby bottles autographed by Animal Kingdom’s Graham Motion and Johnny Velazquez being released next week. https://www.trfinc.org/trf-sanctuary-farm-at-chestnut-hall/
26:30
April 6, 2021
Going in Circles LIVE presented by BRL Equine and Pleasant Acres Farm
On today’s Going in Circles LIVE we are joined by Aaron Vercruysse of Post Time radio to talk the Kentucky Derby picture and he brings a few very unique angles to light. We also had Sal Sinatra from the Maryland Jockey Club to talk about their ongoing equine herpes issues, the new meet opening on Thursday at Laurel, how the Pimlico project is progressing and Sal’s ideas about using a ratings system to classify horses instead of traditional claiming/allowance races.
01:33:14
April 6, 2021
Going in Circles Big Monday show w/Barry Spears - Presented by BRL Equine and Pleasant Acres Farm
On tonight’s Big Monday show Barry and I recap last weekend’s Kentucky Derby preps, discuss at length the bleeding/lasix issue and why it’s pointless now, try to figure out who is riding who in the Derby and a bunch of other assorted topics including the big A Stabile and Kate Upton at a spring training game and much more
02:33:13
April 6, 2021
April 5, 2021
00:60
April 5, 2021
Going in Circles Big Wednesday show / Barry Spears - presented by BRL Equine and Pleasant Acres Farm
On tonight’s delayed Big Monday show we talk about a wide variety of topics including why the Big Monday remote from Pompano didn’t happen, recap the weekends big events in Dubai and Gulfstream especially the Florida Derby and it’s implications on this years Derby, took at look at the Bluegrass and Wood Memorial, discussed where the main Derby contenders are at speed figure wise, spoke about the ongoing social media battle about handicapping versus ticket structure and what changes need to be made in the sport based on the series in The Racing Biz that asks the question to a variety of people in and out of the sport.
02:19:23
April 1, 2021
Going in Circles LIVE presented by BRL Equine and Pleasant Acres Farm - Today’s guest Pat Cummings
On today’s Going in Circles LIVE we are joined by the Thoroughbred Ideas Foundation’s Pat Cummings to preview his upcoming multi-piece white paper on the important issue of wagering security and other issues of integrity. We also talk about the issues of the day including his school Baylor’s run to the Final 4. I also take shots at the Derby Point system (again)
01:08:10
March 30, 2021
Going in Circles Special FLORIDA derby Preview show w/special guests Barry Spears and Jason Beides
On this special edition of Going in Circles -Presented by BRL Equine and Pleasant Acres Farm- Special guest handicapper Jason Beides and Big Monday co-host Barry Spears carve up the marathon Florida Derby Card. The guys have some interesting insights and opinions on all the races (except the baffling race 2) and hopefully can point you in the right direction on Saturday!
02:03:52
March 27, 2021
Going in Circle’s LIVE presented by BRL Equine and Pleasant Acres Farm- (part 2) Saratoga Dan
On the second part of today’s Going in Circles LIVE we talk to racing twitters Saratogadan @skipaway42 about his entry into racing, thoughts about the game in general/NY and his daily basketball coaching videos featuring his son.
01:20:31
March 24, 2021
Going in Circles LIVE presented by BRL Equine and Pleasant Acres Farms- Part 1 DEGEN NATION
Today’s Going in Circles LIVE is a two part show. The first part features the introduction of DEGEN Nation which is a new group created by members of racing Twitter that is designed to bring younger players together with a series of group tickets, contests, giveaways, parties and perhaps even a discount racing partnership. When racing talks about the younger generation and attracting “action” guys who love to gamble, these are who you should be looking for.
01:18:03
March 23, 2021
Going in Circles BIG MONDAY show w/Barry Spears - Presented by BRL Equine and Pleasant Acres Farm
On tonight’s Going in Circles Big Monday show we talk about the lunacy of how the whip regulations are being implemented in California, discuss trainer/owner relationships especially in terms of payment re:Ken Ramsey vs Mike Maker and Wesley Ward news, review the Louisiana Derby, talk a little about the FL Derby and the remaining KY Derby preps and March Madness as it winds up the opening weekend with upsets galore. Special guest appearance from the unofficial mayor of Saratoga, Dave Speers.
02:04:22
March 23, 2021
Going in Circles BIG MONDAY show w/Barry Spears - Presented by BRL Equine and Pleasant Acres Farm
On tonight’s Big Monday Show we recap the stakes action at Oaklawn Park including Concert Tour’s authoritative score in the Rebel, talk about the contrived controversy in the aftermath of the Essex, Swiss Skydivers successful return to the races, a look ahead to the upcoming weeks Derby preps including this Saturday’s Louisiana Derby, talk a little March Madness and a whole lot more!
02:03:03
March 16, 2021
Going in Circles LIVE presented by BRL Equine and Pleasant Acres Farm
On this weeks Going in Circles we are joined by Evan Friedman of Stable Battles, trainer Jeff Engler on his relocating to south Florida and his stable star Willy Boi and Tammy Gantt and Crystal Fernung to talk about auctioning off the art piece Clockwork Fury at next weeks OBS sale with a significant portion of the proceeds to go to the TRF’s Second Chances program at Lowell Correctional facility.
02:01:58
March 10, 2021
Going in Circles BIG Monday w/Barry Spears - presented by BRL Equine and Pleasant Acres Farm
On tonight’s Going in Circles Big Monday show we recapped the weekends three Triple Crown preps, commenting on the Gotham, Tampa Bay Derby and San Felipe. We also talked about the Big Cap, who was betting on Storm the Court 🤯, the KY Derby future book, the lack of attention that March Madness has gotten and a quick preview of the rest of the Derby trail races prior to the May 1st running.
02:02:11
March 9, 2021
Going in Circles LIVE w/special guest Sean Clancy of the Saratoga Special - presented by BRL Equine
On today’s Going in Circles LIVE we are joined by writer, author and bloodstock agent Sean Clancy to talk about the Gordon Elliot incident and a whole host of other racing topics. Sean, who was also a former steeplechase jockey, discussed that sport, his top horses and jockeys, jump racing’s place in Saratoga culture, a look back at 20 years of his paper the Saratoga Special and our mutual respect and admiration for Allen Jerkens. Hope that you enjoy!
01:45:25
March 2, 2021
Going in Circles BIG MONDAY with Barry Spears - Presented by BRL Equine and Pleasant Acres Farms
On tonight’s Big Monday show we talk about the horrible image of a Irish Jump trainer and a dead horse that’s become a scandal, discuss the post race skirmish between Irad Ortiz and a Paco Lopez after the 4th race last Friday at Gulfstream, analyze the key races from last weekend including Monomoy Girls easy score in the Bayakoa, Derby prep action with big favorites Essential Quality and Greatest Honour scoring in the Southwest and Fountain of Youth respectively. We also talk about next weeks preps, how the point system for the Derby needs to be tweaked (yes we talked about it again) and stories of spring training games and the great Edison Azalte almost got us throw out of Ft Lauderdale stadium back in the day.
02:03:03
March 2, 2021
Going in Circles LIVE Phil Antonacci/Jimmy Takter + Troy Levy - presented by BRL Equine
On today’s show we spoke to Phil Antonacci and Jimmy Takter who have launched a stable training thoroughbreds after having been hugely successful in the harness racing business. Takter would best be described as the Bob Baffert of harness and Antonucci’s family has bred a record 5 Hambletonian winners as well as been involved with owning champions like Moni Maker and The Red Mile racetrack. On the second half of the show we were joined by Troy Levy of Circle 8 ranch who also started in harness racing and now is fully immersed in the thoroughbred business operating a farm/training center in central Kentucky. We discuss today’s controversial lawsuit filed by three prominent farms again the Jockey Club over their proposed stallion restrictions.
02:01:10
February 24, 2021
Going in Circles BIG MONDAY show w/Barry Spears - Presented by BRL Equine and Pleasant Acres Farm
On tonight’s Going in Circles Big Monday show we recap the international races that were held Saturday, talk about this weeks Derby preps including the twice postponed Southwest and the Fountain of Youth at GP. We also discuss our usual wide range of topics including weak champions, purses versus handle, industry trends, how the horsemen are fighting an uphill battle, Barry laments California’s whip regulations and talks about the new, The Racing Biz’s special shows on diversity in racing
02:16:08
February 23, 2021
Special Edition Going in Circles Podcast with @O_Crunk aka Chris Rossi
On this special edition of the Going in Circles Podcast we are joined by Chris Rossi who has unofficially been keeping track of racing data especially in regards to handle numbers for years. Better known on Twitter as @o_crunk Chris tells us about trends in handle and what that that data is telling us including a lot that doesn’t jive with some of the popular racing themes. He also talks about how examining the pre-COVID numbers versus the beginning stages of the pandemic to where we are right now has shown a few areas that might not be what we thought they were. He also uses his data to discuss the computer/batch players and why he thinks that their total handle and effect on the pools isn’t nearly as dramatic as we are led to believe. If you are a bettor, trainer or owner there is a lot of stuff discussed that you might be interested in.
01:48:18
February 17, 2021
Going in Circles LIVE w/Kim Weir of the TRF
Joined by Kim Weir of the TRF to talk about the new Second Chances Juvenile Program and next Tuesday’s livestream event.
12:25
February 16, 2021
Going in Circles LIVE Tuesday Feb 16 - presented by BRL Equine & Pleasant Acres Farm
On today’s show we first speak with Trainer Ron Moquett about the weather issues plaguing Oaklawn and get a report on his Breeders Cup winner and champion sprinter, Whitmore. @Swifthitter of racing Twitter fame joins us in the second hour to talk about the bettors POV on a bunch of industry topics including proper jockey complaining techniques and what we can do as an industry to make wagering on horses more attractive to the younger generation that’s interested in gambling. We finish up the show with Kim Weir of the TRF talking about their new program in Ocala and the livestream event they are having to introduce that new program next Tuesday morning.
02:04:57
February 16, 2021
Going in Circles BIG MONDAY show w/Barry Spears - Presented by BRL Equine & Pleasant Acres Farms
On today’s Big Monday Show we discuss the impact that weather is having on racing in the Midwest, especially with Oaklawn Park announcing another weekend missed due to unusually strong winter storms. With the Southwest being pushed back again, we talked about potential solutions for OP regarding the timing of the Rebel and Arkansas Derby and how tight the schedules are for horses originally pointing for the Southwest. We also talked about horses stretching out in distance and why a horse fading in sprints can be dangerous in a route race. Also got Barry’s thoughts on last Saturday’s Risen Star and El Camino Real stakes and potential Derby horses exiting those two preps. No picks were given! (For those who monitor such things)
01:42:44
February 16, 2021
Going in Circles LIVE presented by BRL Equine and Pleasant Acres Farm w/special guest Tom LaMarra
On today’s Going in Circles LIVE we are joined by the MTHA’s Tom LaMarra who is a man who has worn many hats in his career in racing. We discuss his role in assisting the horseman of the mid-Atlantic, being in charge of the MATCH series of racing and the dangers that lurk in the hearts of evil politicians in that region. We also talk about growing up in NJ when it had a full time racing circuit , our memories of Garden State and Atlantic City was a fun part of the show. Tom also talks about how he got started in racing and his journey to where he is today.
01:42:32
February 10, 2021
Going in Circles presented by BRL Equine & Pleasant Acres Farm BIG MONDAY w/ Barry Spears
On this weeks BIG MONDAY show Barry and I discuss last weekends Derby preps from Tampa, Aqueduct and Santa Anita (unofficial prep). Barry talks about his visit to Tampa Bay Downs on Saturday for the Sam Davis card with the Stable Duel people, Mr Grunder and his adventurous calls get some love, the last race DQ is knocked around as is the undercard stakes. Our thoughts on the Withers, weighing horses, asking why the upcoming Southwest is only a 10 point Derby prep (ludicrous) and some other thoughts on tweaking the point system to make it better. Other topics were emerging 4 year olds that may turn out to be solid horses if not this seasons stars like Hit the Road and mask police commentary as well. It’s long but we try to keep it interesting
02:17:26
February 9, 2021
Going in Circles LIVE presented by BRL Equine & Pleasant Acres Farm w/ special guest Stuart Morris
On today’s Going in Circles LIVE we talk with sales agent/consignor/bloodstock advisor Stuart Morris about the sales game, breeding horses, stallions and how they relate to the racing game. It turned into a very informative discussion about a lot of the topics in those areas that aren’t always very well understood by racing fans in general. Give a listen and as always feedback is always appreciated at goingincirclespodcast@gmail.com
01:57:41
February 3, 2021
Going in Circles Big Monday sponsored by BRL Equine + Pleasant Acres Farm w/ Barry Spears UPDATED
*CORRECTED VERSION On tonight’s Big Monday show we discuss last weekends two Kentucky Derby preps and what contenders they might reveal. We also dive into the Racing Twitter debate about podcasts. Are there too many of them? Should straight handicapping shows exist? What is the value for the sport of having racing podcasts? Where do we fit in on the Big Monday show? How can we bring ideas from the podcast world into real life racing world? Check it out and as always any feedback is encouraged at goingincirclespodcast@gmail.com
02:22:03
February 2, 2021
Going in Circles LIVE presented by BRL Equine w/guest Ryan Clements
On today’s Going in Circles LIVE we talk to software designer Ryan Clements about the racing games and smart phone apps that his team has created. His latest app TOP JOCKEY was just released recently and you actually “ride” the horses in races at various tracks, at different distances and surfaces. We also spoke about his difficulties as a programmer trying to access racing data which of course is the chief issue that inhibits innovation in the sport
01:39:14
January 26, 2021
Going in Circles Big Monday Presented by BRL Equine w/Barry Spears
On tonight’s Big Monday show we talk about last Saturday’s Pegasus card chiefly Prevalence and Knicks Go, how a viral video from Pegasus day was born, where racing and the BC goes with the news that NBCSN is getting its plug pulled, why Swiss Skydiver wasn’t snubbed and about a poll on Twitter about betting habits and how they are changing.
01:44:40
January 26, 2021
Going in Circles Big Monday on a Wednesday special Pegasus Stakes edition
On tonight’s program Barry and I analyze the Pegasus card stakes, the Pegasus Dirt and Turf as well as the undercard stakes. This years races are lacking in ⭐️ power but are very competitive races and offer a lot of interesting wagering opportunities.
02:53:20
January 21, 2021
Going in Circles LIVE presented by BRL Equine w/Helen Barbazon of Pleasant Acres Farm/Stallions.
On today’s Going in Circles LIVE we are joined by Helen Barbazon of Pleasant Acres Farm/stallions to talk about the breeding and sales business, the farm and stallions like Gunnevera, including some breaking news about a recently retired horse that will be standing at Pleasant Acres. We also talk about how to improve Florida racing and breeding and her optimism for the future
01:29:28
January 19, 2021
Going in Circles LIVE presented by BRL Equine - NYTB Executive Director Najja Thompson
On this weeks Going in Circles LIVE presented by BRL Equine we open by paying tribute to Juddmonte Farm owner Khalid Abdullah on the event of his passing. Our first guest is the Executive Director of the New York Thoroughbred Breeders Najja Thompson. We talk to Najja about his recent move from NYRA to the NYTB, on his beginnings in racing, what his role is at NYTB and touch on several aspects of the breeding/sales industry along the way.
56:47
January 14, 2021
Going in Circles LIVE presented by BRL Equine - Steve Screnci President of FHBPA
On the 2nd part of GIC LIVE presented by BRL Equine we talk with Steve Screnci who is the President of the FHBPA which is the group that represents the horsemen of South Florida. Steve shares his beginnings in racing and how he got involved with the FHBPA, eventually being elected President of the organization. We talk about the role of the Horsemans group, what duties and responsibilities that they cover and how the business of racing has gotten very complicated over the last decade. Steve also gives some updates on the status of various issues pertaining to south Florida racing and shares his vision of what he hopes to accomplish in the coming months.
01:11:47
January 13, 2021
Going in Circles Big Monday show w/Barry Spears
On tonight’s Big Monday show we recap the light stakes schedule from last weekend, talk about the lack of diversity in racing playing a part in the lack of new ideas and making racing attractive for different demographics and come up some thoughts on expanding the Pegasus brand to a wider slate of races on the big day.
01:45:44
January 12, 2021
Going in Circles LIVE 2021 debut show! GIC LIVE sponsored by BRL Equine
On the years first Going in Circles LIVE we are joined by Pat Cummings of the Thoroughbred Ideas Foundation to break down the newly passed Federal HISA law, how it’s going to be paid for and what are the weaknesses and strengths of the new law. It’s more interesting than it sounds! On the second half of the show we are joined by Joe Villante of BRL Equine to discuss the outlook for the game from a “racing guy” from Philly and might actually uncover a potential new app for racing fans to use!
02:08:45
January 5, 2021
Going in Circles Big Monday W/Barry Spears Season opener
On tonight’s Big Monday show Barry and I talk about the first KY Derby preps of 2021 at SA, AQU and GP. We also go over the Pegasus Dirt and Turf invitees, blast the LA Times for the latest cheap shot editorial, talk about the usual (🙄) topics of lasix and whips, discuss the how the new turf chute at SA is playing and reveal that I may wear a horse head mask to the Pegasus 🐴😂😂
01:22:35
January 5, 2021
Going in Circles LIVE season finale
Today’s show is the finale episode from our first season as we wrap up 2020. Rob Whitlock (aka Garlic Rob) joins us to tell stories from his interesting racetrack life, starting when he was working in the film business to how he wound up as a groom for Allen Jerkens to his Saratoga season rental business and how to keep mosquitos away using garlic and finishing up as a jockey agent for P Val. Check it out and thank you to everyone for listening to our podcast!!
01:28:57
December 29, 2020
Going in Circles BIG MONDAY year end finale with co-host Barry Spears
On tonight’s Going in Circles BIG MONDAY show, which is the final episode of 2020, we discuss the mood of the sport and where we need to do better. We talk about the untapped resources and talent that exists in and around the industry that need be far more involved, the lack of innovation, the need for new ideas and impediments to all of the above. If you love the game ❤️ and have ideas 💡 listen to today’s show, get ahold of us at Goingincirclespodcast@gmail.com and lets talk about making things happen!
02:01:22
December 29, 2020
Going in Circles NBA Preview (Part 3) conversation with Barry Spears 🏀🏀🏀
On the final segment of the Going in Circles NBA preview Barry Spears joins us to give us his hot takes on the upcoming season, where he sees teams like the Clippers and Nets ending up and his picks for the Finals and individual awards.
01:40:36
December 22, 2020
Going in Circles NBA Preview continued (Part 2) 🏀🏀
On this episode of the Going in Circles NBA season Preview we talk to Jason Beides about his view on the season, who he is bullish on, teams and players to watch and good value plays in the future wagers.
01:37:17
December 22, 2020
Going in Circles NBA preview (Part 1 of 3) 🏀
On our first NBA season preview the Going in Circles NBA power rankings are revealed with no big surprises at the top but some interesting mini-team previews. The second and third episodes will feature discussions about interesting topics, players and teams with predictions and hot takes galore!
01:14:14
December 22, 2020
Going in Circles LIVE December 15
On today’s Going In Circles LIVE we talk to Don Chatlos who is racing manager for OXO stable on his unique career path in racing and his takes on the sport. On the second half of the show we are joined by Jose Santos, Jr who is already a successful jockey agent in the Midwest and he isn’t even close to turning 30 yet.
01:35:14
December 16, 2020
Going in Circles Big Monday w/Barry Spears
On tonight’s Big Monday show we recap last weekends stakes from Gulfstream Park, ask why there is no turf lane designation in the pp’s, talk about Garret Gomez and substance abuse/mental health issues on the 4th anniversary of his passing, touch on the difficulty of changing racing rules via state legislatures and I do a pretty awful Andy Beyer impersonation.
02:00:40
December 15, 2020
Going in Circles LIVE December 8, 2020
On today’s Going in Circles LIVE we are joined by top racing photographer Skip Dickstein to talk about his career in pictures. On the second half of the show we speak to racing twitter influencer and occasional wild gambler @swifthitter about how he got into racing and ideas that he has for racing from a gambler/fan point of view
02:11:44
December 8, 2020
Going in Circles Big Monday with Barry Spears
On tonight’s show we talk about a plethora of items ranging from the annoying timing issues that are still occurring at some tracks to the COVID blues and how racing seems more prepared for a second wave. Also touched on the age old issue of trying to figure out why horses are less hardy than they were in the past and several other pleas for racing to fix itself now not later
01:58:27
December 8, 2020
Going in Circles LIVE with special guest Jason Beides
On today’s Going in Circles LIVE we are joined by jockey agent Jason Beides to preview the weekends graded stakes from Aqueduct including the Cigar Mile. We also cover the Demoiselle, Go for Wand and the 10 point Derby prep race, the mile and an eighth Remson.
01:30:39
December 2, 2020
Going in Circles Big Monday with Barry Spears
On tonight’s episode we talk about the events of the past week in racing, from the stakes winners to the closing of Calder. We also talk about the upcoming GP championship meet, who might be running in the Pegasus and compare the Detroit Lions to Tacitus
01:58:44
December 1, 2020
Going in Circles Big Monday Show with Barry Spears
On tonight’s Big Monday show we talk about the great stallion Northern Dancer and his influence on the breed on the 30th anniversary of his passing, why some second tier stallion prospects should race an extra year, Suffolk and Rockingham shippers to Saratoga and how COVID might affect the winter racing season.
01:24:30
November 17, 2020
Going in Circles LIVE November 10th
On today’s show we recap last weekends Breeders Cup Championship races and are also joined by Eric Hammelback of the NHBPA to discuss some of the biggest issues facing racing and why a lot of what we are told about those problems isn’t exactly what it seems.
02:01:17
November 11, 2020
Going in Circles Big Monday Post Breeders Cup hangover recap show w/Barry Spears
On tonight’s show we recap last weekends Breeders Cup races, discus the results, what went right and what went wrong. We also touch on horses going to stud and the business of breeding versus racing and what next year might look like based on horses coming out of these races.
02:05:49
November 10, 2020
Going in Circles LIVE looks back at the 1985 Breeders Cup Classic won by Proud Truth
On today’s show we welcome a pair of hall of famers who teamed up to win the 1985 Breeders Cup Classic with Proud Truth, trainer John Veitch and jockey Jorge Velasquez. John reminisces about his training years and tells stories about great horses he trained like Alydar, Our Mims, Sunshine Forever, Davona Dale, Brian’s Time and Before Dawn. Jorge speaks about how he made it to ride in the US, coming from Panama as a teenager and landing at Atlantic City Racecourse. We also talk about some of the champions he rode like Spectacular Bid, Alydar, Fort Marcy, Shuvee, Chris Everett, Desert Vixen, Lady’s Secret and Pleasant Colony.
02:00:02
November 4, 2020
Going in Circles Super Tuesday Breeders Cup Preview show with Barry Spears and Jason Beides
On tonight’s Breeders Cup Preview we go over all 14 Breeders Cup races, provide some insight and opinions on each of the fields. Jason and Barry both are excellent handicappers that view the races from their own unique standpoint and this is a no chalk zone podcast! 🚫We broke the show into four segments covering the Friday races first and moving on to the Saturday events later in the show. Please feel free to comment or ask questions at www.goingincirclespodcast.com
02:24:15
November 4, 2020
Going in Circles Breeders Crown Preview
Going in Circles is joined by Jason Beides and Barry Spears to preview the Breeders Crown at Harrahs Hoosier Friday and Saturday nights
57:59
October 30, 2020
Going in Circles LIVE October 27
On today’s Going in Circles LIVE we talk to trainer Luis Carvajal of Imperial Hint fame about life at his barn without his stable star. We also speak with trainer Carlos Martin about his Breeders Cup filly sprint contender Come Dancing and how his NY based stable is shaping up. Also additional commentary on the latest medication transgression by the Baffert barn in light of the news of today’s newest violation.
01:45:12
October 27, 2020
Going in Circles LIVE TRF show 10/20
Going in Circles talks TRF Blackburn’s virtual horse show with Kim Weir
36:31
October 27, 2020
Going in Circles Big Monday w/ Barry Spears
On tonight’s show we discuss the latest Baffert positive, how racing can get free advice, the 1985 Aqueduct Breeders Cup, and look ahead to this years edition
01:45:21
October 27, 2020
Going in Circles LIVE Spectacular Bid edition (Anchor)
On today's program we talk to author Peter Lee about the subject of his excellent book Spectacular Bid : The last Superhorse of the 20th century. We examine his hall of Fame career from the modest beginnings to his controversial Belmont to his amazing 4 yo season to his failure as a stallion.
01:22:01
October 22, 2020
Going in Circles LIVE October 20 Spectacular Bid edition
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On today's Going in Circles LIVE we are joined by author Peter Lee to talk about the great Spectacular Bid. Peter wrote a fantastic book called Spectacular Bid: The Last Superhorse of the 20th century and we discuss his career, the ups and downs, his amazing four year old season and his failure to produce as a stallion.
01:25:58
October 21, 2020
Going in Circles Big Monday w/Barry Speers
On tonight’s show we talk about how the new whip regulations in California are making things worse, discussed the ‘good old days’ of racing coverage on television, previewed Tuesday’s LIVE show which will be featuring the great Spectacular Bid. We also did a quick review of last weekends few Stakes of note and started to set the table for the Breeders Cup which is less than 2 weeks away.
02:00:29
October 20, 2020
Going in Circles LIVE October 13
On today’s Going in Circles LIVE we talk to longtime south Florida trainer Henry Collazzo about Calder as we countdown it’s final days. Pat Cummings of the Thoroughbred Ideas Foundation joins us on the 2nd half of the show to talk about the hot button topic of DQ’s, how our current system is failing us and what changes can be made to develop a better way. We finish up the show speaking to Gabby Sanchez of the Cowboy Channel which is an horse-centric cable channel that is expanding its horseracing coverage.
02:07:45
October 14, 2020
Going in Circles Big Monday show with Barry Spears
On tonight’s Going in Circles Big Monday show we recap the weekend stakes events and their potential impact on the Breeders Cup in a few weeks. Barry is a Happy Saver fan and I’m a little more skeptical about him. Tacitus gets his share of scorn (deservedly) and we also talk about the Futurity, the Frizette, the Champagne and Matron Stakes. Plus our weekly “what are the stewards doing” segment and displeasure about a certain award and what to do about racing in California.
01:50:55
October 13, 2020
Going in Circles LIVE Oct 6
On today’s Going in Circles LIVE we talk to trainer Ron Moquett about his popular sprinter Whitmore and the state of the game from his point of view. Frank Vespe from The Racing Biz, our second guest, recaps the big Preakness upset by Swiss Skydiver and the rest of Saturday’s stakes from Pimlico. Author Eric Floyd closes out the show telling us about his unique book, Heavens Premier Horse Race, which brings together the first 11 Triple Crown winners in hypothetical race.
01:59:29
October 7, 2020
Going in Circles Big Monday w/Barry Spears
On tonight’s show we recap the huge weekend of racing highlighted by Swiss Skydivers upset Preakness win. We also talk about Beyer figures and how speed figures can mean different thing to different people. Also discuss the closing of mainstay racetracks like Calder/GPW, Suffolk Downs and the soon to be shuttered Arlington Park and what impact that will have on racing moving forward.
02:02:17
October 6, 2020
Going in Circles LIVE with Kim Weir of the Thoroughbred Retirement Foundation (part 2)
On the second part of Going in Circles LIVE we speak with Kim Weir of the TRF about their upcoming virtual horse show featuring the horses and inmates of the TRF Blackburn facility on October 20th
29:34
September 30, 2020
Going in Circles LIVE Preakness preview with Tom Cannell and Jason Beides (part 1)
On today’s show we previewed this Saturday’s Preakness stakes which is in the unusual spot of being the final leg of the Triple Crown. Longtime owner and handicapper Tom Cannell leads of the show with his insights. He is followed by NY jockey agent Jason Beides who offers his professional opinion of the Preakness and other races on the card.
01:33:58
September 30, 2020
Going in Circles Big Monday w/Barry Spears
We talk about the weekends big races including what to think about Maximum Security off of his so-so effort in the Awesome Again. Also discuss the weakness of California graded races in comparison to other jurisdictions and how the number of them might be reduced in the face of declining foal crops.
01:41:05
September 29, 2020
Going in Circles Special w/Chris DeCarlo
On today’s special Going in Circles Podcast we speak to veteran jockey Chris DeCarlo about the new whip regulations being implemented in New Jersey where he has been a mainstay for years.
52:53
September 23, 2020
Going in Circles Big Monday w/Barry Spears
On tonight’s show we talk about the inane whip rules being enacted through the country, touch on some of the weaknesses and items that won’t be addressed by the HRIA including a lot of issues of integrity, the retirement of Volitile, the folly of mass marketing Runhappy and the fallout from the large dip in the KY yearling sales numbers.
01:23:32
September 22, 2020
Going in Circles Big Monday show w/ co-host Barry Spears
On tonight’s episode we discuss a wide variety of topics including Kentucky Downs this past weekend, the Queens Plate, why songs for racing are stupid, how thoroughbred tracks can improve business by following the Gabe Prewitt model and other assorted musings
01:02:11
September 15, 2020
Going in Circles LIVE call-in show
On this weeks Going In Circles LIVE show we took callers and discussed various issues that listeners were concerned about. The topics were wide-ranging from transparency for bettors, horses shoes and glue-on’s, to the best restaurants in various racing locales including the Smoking Goat in the East end of London, wagering stories, training race screwups, and a bunch of other racing related stories.
02:01:43
September 9, 2020
Going in Circles Big Monday with Barry Spears
On tonight’s show we discuss the weekends events, the fallout from the Derby, the micro-share conundrum and why you shouldn’t be surprised that Runhappy isn’t lighting the world on fire with his early runners.
01:48:43
September 8, 2020
Going in Circles LIVE Derby Edition
On today’s Going in Circles LIVE we talk to starter Bob Duncan on issues dealing with the starting gate and how the gate crew’s techniques have evolved over the years. Also talk about the new 20 horse gate that will be used for the KY Derby this year and some of the famous horses that Bob worked with. (Hint mostly legends). On the second half of the show we talked with THT Bloodstock’s Kerry Thomas about his annual Derby horse by horse analysis which comes from a completely different angle than most are looking at the race from.
01:30:24
September 1, 2020
Going in Circles Big Monday show w/ Barry Speers Derby Edition
On tonight’s show Barry and I go through the field of Derby runners and size them up. We also talk about trying to stay positive this week despite being inundated with negative news lately. We wrap up the segment talking about the social aspect of racing that has been missing and all the characters that were around in the good old days.
01:59:06
September 1, 2020
Going in Circles LIVE Aug 25 w/Cherie Devaux
Going in Circles LIVE is joined by Cherie Devaux to talk about her success in only her 3rd year of her training career. We are also joined by trainer Chad Summers to talk about some of the trends both good and bad that we see coming to the racing and sales businesses this fall.
02:00:48
August 26, 2020
Going in Circles Big Monday show w/Barry Spears
On Going in Circles Big Monday show this week we discuss Maximum Security’s Pacific Classic win, the baffling stewards/judges decisions this past weekend, how inconsistencies from different jurisdictions on so many issues has led to the appearance (deservedly) of industry dysfunction and stories of Chuck scratching horses from races that left the stewards less than happy 😃
01:44:54
August 25, 2020
Going in Circles Sick of the bad news special edition
An impromptu Friday show where we sound off on this past weeks bevy of bad news. We are also joined during the second half of the show by Nicholas Vaccerazza who gives his view of racing’s issues from the perspective of a 20 year old horsemen and lifetime fan of the sport.
01:19:02
August 21, 2020
Going in Circles LIVE looks at different ways of doing things
On this weeks Going in Circles LIVE we talk to four guests from four entirely views of racing. Murray Johnson leads off from the middle of the night in Australia, describing how the handicap system of racing works down under. After him we are joined by Professional horseplayer and horse owner Paul Matties, Jr who has developed an alternative plan of classifying horses for the NYRA circuit and hear his views from a 30 year veteran of the sport. Ilka Gansera-Leveque who is a trainer based in Newmarket, UK offers her opinion of the English style of handicaps and how training over there is both different and the same as in the US. Our fourth guest is Elizabeth Rogers who is the racing secretary at Charles Town racetrack who talks about her perspective as a racing official and some unique facets of their racing in West Virginia. Thank you for listening!
02:00:43
August 20, 2020
Going in Circles Big Monday w/Barry Spears
We talk about Swiss Skydivers Alabama domination and how the Kentucky Oaks might be a more compelling matchup than the Kentucky Derby. Then we get into how racing industry people often don’t see the dangers that lurk and that going back to “normal” might be further away than we hoped for. Also preview the Tuesday Going in Circles LIVE show which is going to take on the topic of potentially adopting a different system of classifying horses to get away from claiming races. Plus some bonus college hoops talk including does Jim Boeheim actually age?
01:57:52
August 18, 2020
Going in Circles LIVE with special guest Tom Law of the Saratoga Special
The Saratoga Special's Tom Law joins us today to talk about the Derby Trail, Tiz the Laws big win, what jockeys might go into quarantine next week, what is in store for the remainder of the Saratoga season and Barclay Tagg's Hall of Fame resume.
02:00:42
August 12, 2020
Monday’s Going in Circles with Barry Spears
On tonight’s Going in Circles we talk about Tiz the Law’s dominant Travers, Art Collector holding serve in the Ellis Park Derby, what the Kentucky Derby field might look like and things that the industry needs to consider, change or stop doing.
01:51:60
August 11, 2020
Going in Circles LIVE with jockey agents Ralph Theroux and Jason Beides
We visit with former well respected jockey agent and racing official Ralph Theroux and Jose Lezcano’s longtime agent Jason Beides. Unfortunately there were a couple audio issues due to weather at both ends of the calls.
01:57:01
August 5, 2020
Going in Circles with guest Rick Schosberg
We talk with NY trainer Rick Schosberg about his career and his work for horses and horseman with NYTHA
49:46
August 5, 2020
Going in Circles Monday with Barry Spears
On tonight's episode we talk with Barry about the Kentucky Derby Jockeys protocols and the potential fallout from that announcement. We also touch on a few of the weekends big races from Saratoga and Del Mar and tell the story of the great sprinter Kelly Kip's Finger Lakes adventure.
01:00:29
August 4, 2020
Going in Circles LIVE mini-podcast with trainer Reeve McGaughey
We speak to trainer Reeve McGaughey about his first year training his own outfit, what lessons he learned from his father and uncle, hall of famer Shug McGaughey and Charlie LoPresti and his thoughts on racing from where he stands today.
26:44
July 29, 2020
Going in Circles LIVE mini-podcast with Jason Barkley
We talk to Kentucky trainer Jason Barkley about his growing stable, how he was born into the game and where he sees his barn headed in the future
46:50
July 29, 2020
Going in Circles LIVE with Emmet Jolley mini-Podcast
We speak with trainer Emmet Jolley on his journey in racing from 🇮🇪 to Gulfstream Park
11:55
July 29, 2020
Going in Circles LIVE mini-podcast with Susan Ditter
We talk to trainer Susan Ditter about her beginnings in racing, the best horses that she has ridden and how her current group of horses is shaping up
34:02
July 29, 2020
Going in Circles LIVE with trainers Jason Barkley, Reeve McGaughey, Susan Ditter and Emmet Jolley
Today’s show features four up and coming trainers from different backgrounds. Listen in to hear their stories and how racing looks through the prism of a young trainer
01:59:30
July 29, 2020
Monday’s Going in Circles with Barry Spears
On tonight’s show we recap Maximum Security’s comeback races and the resulting fallout, racing’s social media negativity and how conspiracies start
01:00:30
July 28, 2020
Going in Circles looks back today with Nat’l Museum of racing and hall of fames Brien Bouyea
Today we are joined by Brien Bouyea who is the director of communications for the Nat’l museum of Racing and Hall of Fame in Saratoga Springs, NY. We talk about the renovation project the museum is undergoing including new interactive features for all the hall of famers. Brien who co-authored a great book about the Travers, talks about its historical significance and how this year’s edition may be sort of a throw back version with its unique positioning within this years Triple Crown series. We also touch things we would like see happen in terms of keeping the past alive in racing and Barclay Tagg’s potential hall of fame candidacy.
59:30
July 23, 2020
Going In Circles LIVE with guests Steve Haskin and Jennifer Kelly
We are joined by racing media Hall of Famer Steve Haskin and author/racing historian Jennifer Kelly to discuss racing's history and how to keep it alive. Mr. Haskin talks about his beginnings in racing and the changes to the sport in the 50 years that he has worked in the game. Mrs Kelly talks about researching her book about racing's first Triple Crown winner, Sir Barton and how different that his path to glory was compared to all the other winners.
02:15:32
July 22, 2020
Going in Circles Monday July 20 w/special guest Barry Spears
Tonight we talk about the Haskell and a couple of undercard stakes last weekend at Monmouth, Saratoga’s soft stakes, the Meadowlands pace and why we see so many Australian and New Zealand imports in standardbred racing in the US but not thoroughbreds where they are a rarity.
01:03:02
July 21, 2020
Going in Circles Monday’s with Barry Spears
Tonight we talk with Barry Spears about the impact that jockeys testing positive for Covid-19 is having on racing and touch on Saratoga opening this week.
01:01:52
July 14, 2020
Going In Circles LIVE with special Guests Roberto Rodriguez and Marty McGee
On today's Going in Circles LIVE we talk with guest Roberto Rodriguez of the Spanish language racing site El Potro Roberto about racing's lack of diversity and how embracing the nations fastest growing demographic, latinos, would pay huge dividends. On the second hour our guest Marty McGee of the Daily Racing Form brings us the latest from Kentucky including the upcoming and unusual Keeneland July meet, how KY horsemen are approaching next weeks Saratoga meet and we touch on the Kentucky Derby and it's being held in such unusual times.
02:00:53
July 8, 2020
Going in Circles Monday w/special guest Barry Spears
Today we have top handicapper Barry Spears join us to talk about last Saturday’s Met Mile and thoughts about the sport itself and where we are headed.
01:41:33
July 7, 2020
Going in Circles goes Under the Radar on Friday’s
In our first edition of Under the Radar we talk to Nicholas Tomlinson who is Mark Casse barns head assistant trainer for the South Florida division of his huge stable.
28:34
July 4, 2020
Going in Circles Looks Back
Going in Circles celebrates the history of the sport on Thursdays. Special guest Hall of Fame jockey Pat Day shares his memories of the great racing season of 1987 talking about his rides on Gulch, Java Gold, Theatrical and the disappointment of Kentucky Derby favorite Demons Begone.
54:09
July 3, 2020
Going in Circles LIVE - Should we change the Triple Crown?
The Triple Crown is racing's biggest series but should it be changed? Host Charles Simon and guests Charlie McCarthy, John Scheinman and Jennifer Kelly discussed this topic and several others that pertain to the popular events!
01:59:54
June 30, 2020
Going in Circles Monday show “No crying over Beyers”
Today we talk about last weekends two major dirt races at Churchill Downs and the interesting differences between the two.
33:41
June 30, 2020
Going in Circles Monday June 22
Today we recap last Saturday’s Belmont Stakes with Pete Denk of THT Bloodstock and talk about the sales and Runhappy (no this show isn’t sponsored by Runhappy!)
55:35
June 22, 2020
The Queens fingerprints and our new schedule
A short podcast talking about what our new podcast schedule will be and a quick story about the Queen and her fingerprints
19:02
June 19, 2020
Going in Circles episode 2 with guests Chad Summers and Jose Santos
On today's podcast we are joined by guests Chad Summers talking about how things are slowly going back to normal at Belmont and Hall of Fame jockey Jose Santos reminiscing about some of the great horses that he rode during his career.
44:40
June 18, 2020
We aren’t a major sport 🤷🏼‍♂️
In our first episode I talk about my hopes for this podcast. Also touch on the fallacy of racing “missing the boat” with the mainstream sports media. Let me know what you think, if you have any ideas or questions at: Goingincirclespodcast@gmail.com
25:23
June 7, 2020
Going in circles preview
Introducing  Going in Circles, a brand new horse racing podcast that is not going to be like other racing shows. Hosted by Charles Simon (@cannonshell on Twitter) this show is going to entertain you while at the same time shedding some light on a lot of the misunderstandings that exist in the great game that is horse racing. No boring segments about the 4th at Laurel or some supertrainer droning on about his team or other dull nonsense. We will be bringing on interesting people somehow connected to racing, hearing stories that you haven’t heard before and hopefully keep you interested enough that you come back to listen again. Listener input will be very important as we want to hear about what you want to hear about! This first preview is only a 5 minutes long listen, so tune in at 0  MTP at GP and you won’t miss any of the racing action! 
04:60
May 28, 2020