Horse racing discussions, stories and interviews too BUT trainer-speak not allowed here! If it’s mundane, we don’t care about it. I promise to never, ever give out my selections unless it’s a Let it Ride scenario where people are looking for toss outs.
On today’s show we spoke to Phil Antonacci and Jimmy Takter who have launched a stable training thoroughbreds after having been hugely successful in the harness racing business. Takter would best be described as the Bob Baffert of harness and Antonucci’s family has bred a record 5 Hambletonian winners as well as been involved with owning champions like Moni Maker and The Red Mile racetrack. On the second half of the show we were joined by Troy Levy of Circle 8 ranch who also started in harness racing and now is fully immersed in the thoroughbred business operating a farm/training center in central Kentucky. We discuss today’s controversial lawsuit filed by three prominent farms again the Jockey Club over their proposed stallion restrictions.
On tonight’s Going in Circles Big Monday show we recap the international races that were held Saturday, talk about this weeks Derby preps including the twice postponed Southwest and the Fountain of Youth at GP. We also discuss our usual wide range of topics including weak champions, purses versus handle, industry trends, how the horsemen are fighting an uphill battle, Barry laments California’s whip regulations and talks about the new, The Racing Biz’s special shows on diversity in racing
On this special edition of the Going in Circles Podcast we are joined by Chris Rossi who has unofficially been keeping track of racing data especially in regards to handle numbers for years. Better known on Twitter as @o_crunk Chris tells us about trends in handle and what that that data is telling us including a lot that doesn’t jive with some of the popular racing themes. He also talks about how examining the pre-COVID numbers versus the beginning stages of the pandemic to where we are right now has shown a few areas that might not be what we thought they were. He also uses his data to discuss the computer/batch players and why he thinks that their total handle and effect on the pools isn’t nearly as dramatic as we are led to believe. If you are a bettor, trainer or owner there is a lot of stuff discussed that you might be interested in.
On today’s show we first speak with Trainer Ron Moquett about the weather issues plaguing Oaklawn and get a report on his Breeders Cup winner and champion sprinter, Whitmore. @Swifthitter of racing Twitter fame joins us in the second hour to talk about the bettors POV on a bunch of industry topics including proper jockey complaining techniques and what we can do as an industry to make wagering on horses more attractive to the younger generation that’s interested in gambling. We finish up the show with Kim Weir of the TRF talking about their new program in Ocala and the livestream event they are having to introduce that new program next Tuesday morning.
On today’s Big Monday Show we discuss the impact that weather is having on racing in the Midwest, especially with Oaklawn Park announcing another weekend missed due to unusually strong winter storms. With the Southwest being pushed back again, we talked about potential solutions for OP regarding the timing of the Rebel and Arkansas Derby and how tight the schedules are for horses originally pointing for the Southwest. We also talked about horses stretching out in distance and why a horse fading in sprints can be dangerous in a route race. Also got Barry’s thoughts on last Saturday’s Risen Star and El Camino Real stakes and potential Derby horses exiting those two preps. No picks were given! (For those who monitor such things)
On today’s Going in Circles LIVE we are joined by the MTHA’s Tom LaMarra who is a man who has worn many hats in his career in racing. We discuss his role in assisting the horseman of the mid-Atlantic, being in charge of the MATCH series of racing and the dangers that lurk in the hearts of evil politicians in that region. We also talk about growing up in NJ when it had a full time racing circuit , our memories of Garden State and Atlantic City was a fun part of the show. Tom also talks about how he got started in racing and his journey to where he is today.
On this weeks BIG MONDAY show Barry and I discuss last weekends Derby preps from Tampa, Aqueduct and Santa Anita (unofficial prep). Barry talks about his visit to Tampa Bay Downs on Saturday for the Sam Davis card with the Stable Duel people, Mr Grunder and his adventurous calls get some love, the last race DQ is knocked around as is the undercard stakes. Our thoughts on the Withers, weighing horses, asking why the upcoming Southwest is only a 10 point Derby prep (ludicrous) and some other thoughts on tweaking the point system to make it better. Other topics were emerging 4 year olds that may turn out to be solid horses if not this seasons stars like Hit the Road and mask police commentary as well. It’s long but we try to keep it interesting
On today’s Going in Circles LIVE we talk with sales agent/consignor/bloodstock advisor Stuart Morris about the sales game, breeding horses, stallions and how they relate to the racing game. It turned into a very informative discussion about a lot of the topics in those areas that aren’t always very well understood by racing fans in general. Give a listen and as always feedback is always appreciated at email@example.com
*CORRECTED VERSION On tonight’s Big Monday show we discuss last weekends two Kentucky Derby preps and what contenders they might reveal. We also dive into the Racing Twitter debate about podcasts. Are there too many of them? Should straight handicapping shows exist? What is the value for the sport of having racing podcasts? Where do we fit in on the Big Monday show? How can we bring ideas from the podcast world into real life racing world? Check it out and as always any feedback is encouraged at firstname.lastname@example.org
On today’s Going in Circles LIVE we talk to software designer Ryan Clements about the racing games and smart phone apps that his team has created. His latest app TOP JOCKEY was just released recently and you actually “ride” the horses in races at various tracks, at different distances and surfaces. We also spoke about his difficulties as a programmer trying to access racing data which of course is the chief issue that inhibits innovation in the sport
On tonight’s Big Monday show we talk about last Saturday’s Pegasus card chiefly Prevalence and Knicks Go, how a viral video from Pegasus day was born, where racing and the BC goes with the news that NBCSN is getting its plug pulled, why Swiss Skydiver wasn’t snubbed and about a poll on Twitter about betting habits and how they are changing.
On tonight’s program Barry and I analyze the Pegasus card stakes, the Pegasus Dirt and Turf as well as the undercard stakes. This years races are lacking in ⭐️ power but are very competitive races and offer a lot of interesting wagering opportunities.
On today’s Going in Circles LIVE we are joined by Helen Barbazon of Pleasant Acres Farm/stallions to talk about the breeding and sales business, the farm and stallions like Gunnevera, including some breaking news about a recently retired horse that will be standing at Pleasant Acres. We also talk about how to improve Florida racing and breeding and her optimism for the future
On this weeks Going in Circles LIVE presented by BRL Equine we open by paying tribute to Juddmonte Farm owner Khalid Abdullah on the event of his passing. Our first guest is the Executive Director of the New York Thoroughbred Breeders Najja Thompson. We talk to Najja about his recent move from NYRA to the NYTB, on his beginnings in racing, what his role is at NYTB and touch on several aspects of the breeding/sales industry along the way.
On the 2nd part of GIC LIVE presented by BRL Equine we talk with Steve Screnci who is the President of the FHBPA which is the group that represents the horsemen of South Florida. Steve shares his beginnings in racing and how he got involved with the FHBPA, eventually being elected President of the organization. We talk about the role of the Horsemans group, what duties and responsibilities that they cover and how the business of racing has gotten very complicated over the last decade. Steve also gives some updates on the status of various issues pertaining to south Florida racing and shares his vision of what he hopes to accomplish in the coming months.
On tonight’s Big Monday show we recap the light stakes schedule from last weekend, talk about the lack of diversity in racing playing a part in the lack of new ideas and making racing attractive for different demographics and come up some thoughts on expanding the Pegasus brand to a wider slate of races on the big day.
On the years first Going in Circles LIVE we are joined by Pat Cummings of the Thoroughbred Ideas Foundation to break down the newly passed Federal HISA law, how it’s going to be paid for and what are the weaknesses and strengths of the new law. It’s more interesting than it sounds! On the second half of the show we are joined by Joe Villante of BRL Equine to discuss the outlook for the game from a “racing guy” from Philly and might actually uncover a potential new app for racing fans to use!
On tonight’s Big Monday show Barry and I talk about the first KY Derby preps of 2021 at SA, AQU and GP. We also go over the Pegasus Dirt and Turf invitees, blast the LA Times for the latest cheap shot editorial, talk about the usual (🙄) topics of lasix and whips, discuss the how the new turf chute at SA is playing and reveal that I may wear a horse head mask to the Pegasus 🐴😂😂
Today’s show is the finale episode from our first season as we wrap up 2020. Rob Whitlock (aka Garlic Rob) joins us to tell stories from his interesting racetrack life, starting when he was working in the film business to how he wound up as a groom for Allen Jerkens to his Saratoga season rental business and how to keep mosquitos away using garlic and finishing up as a jockey agent for P Val. Check it out and thank you to everyone for listening to our podcast!!
On tonight’s Going in Circles BIG MONDAY show, which is the final episode of 2020, we discuss the mood of the sport and where we need to do better. We talk about the untapped resources and talent that exists in and around the industry that need be far more involved, the lack of innovation, the need for new ideas and impediments to all of the above. If you love the game ❤️ and have ideas 💡 listen to today’s show, get ahold of us at Goingincirclespodcast@gmail.com and lets talk about making things happen!
On the final segment of the Going in Circles NBA preview Barry Spears joins us to give us his hot takes on the upcoming season, where he sees teams like the Clippers and Nets ending up and his picks for the Finals and individual awards.
On this episode of the Going in Circles NBA season Preview we talk to Jason Beides about his view on the season, who he is bullish on, teams and players to watch and good value plays in the future wagers.
On our first NBA season preview the Going in Circles NBA power rankings are revealed with no big surprises at the top but some interesting mini-team previews. The second and third episodes will feature discussions about interesting topics, players and teams with predictions and hot takes galore!
On today’s Going In Circles LIVE we talk to Don Chatlos who is racing manager for OXO stable on his unique career path in racing and his takes on the sport. On the second half of the show we are joined by Jose Santos, Jr who is already a successful jockey agent in the Midwest and he isn’t even close to turning 30 yet.
On tonight’s Big Monday show we recap last weekends stakes from Gulfstream Park, ask why there is no turf lane designation in the pp’s, talk about Garret Gomez and substance abuse/mental health issues on the 4th anniversary of his passing, touch on the difficulty of changing racing rules via state legislatures and I do a pretty awful Andy Beyer impersonation.
On today’s Going in Circles LIVE we are joined by top racing photographer Skip Dickstein to talk about his career in pictures. On the second half of the show we speak to racing twitter influencer and occasional wild gambler @swifthitter about how he got into racing and ideas that he has for racing from a gambler/fan point of view
On tonight’s show we talk about a plethora of items ranging from the annoying timing issues that are still occurring at some tracks to the COVID blues and how racing seems more prepared for a second wave. Also touched on the age old issue of trying to figure out why horses are less hardy than they were in the past and several other pleas for racing to fix itself now not later
On today’s Going in Circles LIVE we are joined by jockey agent Jason Beides to preview the weekends graded stakes from Aqueduct including the Cigar Mile. We also cover the Demoiselle, Go for Wand and the 10 point Derby prep race, the mile and an eighth Remson.
On tonight’s episode we talk about the events of the past week in racing, from the stakes winners to the closing of Calder. We also talk about the upcoming GP championship meet, who might be running in the Pegasus and compare the Detroit Lions to Tacitus
On tonight’s Big Monday show we talk about the great stallion Northern Dancer and his influence on the breed on the 30th anniversary of his passing, why some second tier stallion prospects should race an extra year, Suffolk and Rockingham shippers to Saratoga and how COVID might affect the winter racing season.
On today’s show we recap last weekends Breeders Cup Championship races and are also joined by Eric Hammelback of the NHBPA to discuss some of the biggest issues facing racing and why a lot of what we are told about those problems isn’t exactly what it seems.
On tonight’s show we recap last weekends Breeders Cup races, discus the results, what went right and what went wrong. We also touch on horses going to stud and the business of breeding versus racing and what next year might look like based on horses coming out of these races.
On today’s show we welcome a pair of hall of famers who teamed up to win the 1985 Breeders Cup Classic with Proud Truth, trainer John Veitch and jockey Jorge Velasquez. John reminisces about his training years and tells stories about great horses he trained like Alydar, Our Mims, Sunshine Forever, Davona Dale, Brian’s Time and Before Dawn. Jorge speaks about how he made it to ride in the US, coming from Panama as a teenager and landing at Atlantic City Racecourse. We also talk about some of the champions he rode like Spectacular Bid, Alydar, Fort Marcy, Shuvee, Chris Everett, Desert Vixen, Lady’s Secret and Pleasant Colony.
On tonight’s Breeders Cup Preview we go over all 14 Breeders Cup races, provide some insight and opinions on each of the fields. Jason and Barry both are excellent handicappers that view the races from their own unique standpoint and this is a no chalk zone podcast! 🚫We broke the show into four segments covering the Friday races first and moving on to the Saturday events later in the show. Please feel free to comment or ask questions at www.goingincirclespodcast.com
On today’s Going in Circles LIVE we talk to trainer Luis Carvajal of Imperial Hint fame about life at his barn without his stable star. We also speak with trainer Carlos Martin about his Breeders Cup filly sprint contender Come Dancing and how his NY based stable is shaping up. Also additional commentary on the latest medication transgression by the Baffert barn in light of the news of today’s newest violation.
On today's program we talk to author Peter Lee about the subject of his excellent book Spectacular Bid : The last Superhorse of the 20th century. We examine his hall of Fame career from the modest beginnings to his controversial Belmont to his amazing 4 yo season to his failure as a stallion.
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On today's Going in Circles LIVE we are joined by author Peter Lee to talk about the great Spectacular Bid. Peter wrote a fantastic book called Spectacular Bid: The Last Superhorse of the 20th century and we discuss his career, the ups and downs, his amazing four year old season and his failure to produce as a stallion.
On tonight’s show we talk about how the new whip regulations in California are making things worse, discussed the ‘good old days’ of racing coverage on television, previewed Tuesday’s LIVE show which will be featuring the great Spectacular Bid. We also did a quick review of last weekends few Stakes of note and started to set the table for the Breeders Cup which is less than 2 weeks away.
On today’s Going in Circles LIVE we talk to longtime south Florida trainer Henry Collazzo about Calder as we countdown it’s final days. Pat Cummings of the Thoroughbred Ideas Foundation joins us on the 2nd half of the show to talk about the hot button topic of DQ’s, how our current system is failing us and what changes can be made to develop a better way. We finish up the show speaking to Gabby Sanchez of the Cowboy Channel which is an horse-centric cable channel that is expanding its horseracing coverage.
On tonight’s Going in Circles Big Monday show we recap the weekend stakes events and their potential impact on the Breeders Cup in a few weeks. Barry is a Happy Saver fan and I’m a little more skeptical about him. Tacitus gets his share of scorn (deservedly) and we also talk about the Futurity, the Frizette, the Champagne and Matron Stakes. Plus our weekly “what are the stewards doing” segment and displeasure about a certain award and what to do about racing in California.
On today’s Going in Circles LIVE we talk to trainer Ron Moquett about his popular sprinter Whitmore and the state of the game from his point of view. Frank Vespe from The Racing Biz, our second guest, recaps the big Preakness upset by Swiss Skydiver and the rest of Saturday’s stakes from Pimlico. Author Eric Floyd closes out the show telling us about his unique book, Heavens Premier Horse Race, which brings together the first 11 Triple Crown winners in hypothetical race.
On tonight’s show we recap the huge weekend of racing highlighted by Swiss Skydivers upset Preakness win. We also talk about Beyer figures and how speed figures can mean different thing to different people. Also discuss the closing of mainstay racetracks like Calder/GPW, Suffolk Downs and the soon to be shuttered Arlington Park and what impact that will have on racing moving forward.
On today’s show we previewed this Saturday’s Preakness stakes which is in the unusual spot of being the final leg of the Triple Crown. Longtime owner and handicapper Tom Cannell leads of the show with his insights. He is followed by NY jockey agent Jason Beides who offers his professional opinion of the Preakness and other races on the card.
We talk about the weekends big races including what to think about Maximum Security off of his so-so effort in the Awesome Again. Also discuss the weakness of California graded races in comparison to other jurisdictions and how the number of them might be reduced in the face of declining foal crops.
On tonight’s show we talk about the inane whip rules being enacted through the country, touch on some of the weaknesses and items that won’t be addressed by the HRIA including a lot of issues of integrity, the retirement of Volitile, the folly of mass marketing Runhappy and the fallout from the large dip in the KY yearling sales numbers.
On tonight’s episode we discuss a wide variety of topics including Kentucky Downs this past weekend, the Queens Plate, why songs for racing are stupid, how thoroughbred tracks can improve business by following the Gabe Prewitt model and other assorted musings
On this weeks Going In Circles LIVE show we took callers and discussed various issues that listeners were concerned about. The topics were wide-ranging from transparency for bettors, horses shoes and glue-on’s, to the best restaurants in various racing locales including the Smoking Goat in the East end of London, wagering stories, training race screwups, and a bunch of other racing related stories.
On tonight’s show we discuss the weekends events, the fallout from the Derby, the micro-share conundrum and why you shouldn’t be surprised that Runhappy isn’t lighting the world on fire with his early runners.
On today’s Going in Circles LIVE we talk to starter Bob Duncan on issues dealing with the starting gate and how the gate crew’s techniques have evolved over the years. Also talk about the new 20 horse gate that will be used for the KY Derby this year and some of the famous horses that Bob worked with. (Hint mostly legends). On the second half of the show we talked with THT Bloodstock’s Kerry Thomas about his annual Derby horse by horse analysis which comes from a completely different angle than most are looking at the race from.
On tonight’s show Barry and I go through the field of Derby runners and size them up. We also talk about trying to stay positive this week despite being inundated with negative news lately. We wrap up the segment talking about the social aspect of racing that has been missing and all the characters that were around in the good old days.
Going in Circles LIVE is joined by Cherie Devaux to talk about her success in only her 3rd year of her training career. We are also joined by trainer Chad Summers to talk about some of the trends both good and bad that we see coming to the racing and sales businesses this fall.
On Going in Circles Big Monday show this week we discuss Maximum Security’s Pacific Classic win, the baffling stewards/judges decisions this past weekend, how inconsistencies from different jurisdictions on so many issues has led to the appearance (deservedly) of industry dysfunction and stories of Chuck scratching horses from races that left the stewards less than happy 😃
An impromptu Friday show where we sound off on this past weeks bevy of bad news. We are also joined during the second half of the show by Nicholas Vaccerazza who gives his view of racing’s issues from the perspective of a 20 year old horsemen and lifetime fan of the sport.
On this weeks Going in Circles LIVE we talk to four guests from four entirely views of racing. Murray Johnson leads off from the middle of the night in Australia, describing how the handicap system of racing works down under. After him we are joined by Professional horseplayer and horse owner Paul Matties, Jr who has developed an alternative plan of classifying horses for the NYRA circuit and hear his views from a 30 year veteran of the sport. Ilka Gansera-Leveque who is a trainer based in Newmarket, UK offers her opinion of the English style of handicaps and how training over there is both different and the same as in the US. Our fourth guest is Elizabeth Rogers who is the racing secretary at Charles Town racetrack who talks about her perspective as a racing official and some unique facets of their racing in West Virginia. Thank you for listening!
We talk about Swiss Skydivers Alabama domination and how the Kentucky Oaks might be a more compelling matchup than the Kentucky Derby. Then we get into how racing industry people often don’t see the dangers that lurk and that going back to “normal” might be further away than we hoped for. Also preview the Tuesday Going in Circles LIVE show which is going to take on the topic of potentially adopting a different system of classifying horses to get away from claiming races. Plus some bonus college hoops talk including does Jim Boeheim actually age?
The Saratoga Special's Tom Law joins us today to talk about the Derby Trail, Tiz the Laws big win, what jockeys might go into quarantine next week, what is in store for the remainder of the Saratoga season and Barclay Tagg's Hall of Fame resume.
On tonight’s Going in Circles we talk about Tiz the Law’s dominant Travers, Art Collector holding serve in the Ellis Park Derby, what the Kentucky Derby field might look like and things that the industry needs to consider, change or stop doing.
We visit with former well respected jockey agent and racing official Ralph Theroux and Jose Lezcano’s longtime agent Jason Beides. Unfortunately there were a couple audio issues due to weather at both ends of the calls.
On tonight's episode we talk with Barry about the Kentucky Derby Jockeys protocols and the potential fallout from that announcement. We also touch on a few of the weekends big races from Saratoga and Del Mar and tell the story of the great sprinter Kelly Kip's Finger Lakes adventure.
We speak to trainer Reeve McGaughey about his first year training his own outfit, what lessons he learned from his father and uncle, hall of famer Shug McGaughey and Charlie LoPresti and his thoughts on racing from where he stands today.
Today we are joined by Brien Bouyea who is the director of communications for the Nat’l museum of Racing and Hall of Fame in Saratoga Springs, NY. We talk about the renovation project the museum is undergoing including new interactive features for all the hall of famers. Brien who co-authored a great book about the Travers, talks about its historical significance and how this year’s edition may be sort of a throw back version with its unique positioning within this years Triple Crown series. We also touch things we would like see happen in terms of keeping the past alive in racing and Barclay Tagg’s potential hall of fame candidacy.
We are joined by racing media Hall of Famer Steve Haskin and author/racing historian Jennifer Kelly to discuss racing's history and how to keep it alive. Mr. Haskin talks about his beginnings in racing and the changes to the sport in the 50 years that he has worked in the game. Mrs Kelly talks about researching her book about racing's first Triple Crown winner, Sir Barton and how different that his path to glory was compared to all the other winners.
Tonight we talk about the Haskell and a couple of undercard stakes last weekend at Monmouth, Saratoga’s soft stakes, the Meadowlands pace and why we see so many Australian and New Zealand imports in standardbred racing in the US but not thoroughbreds where they are a rarity.
On today's Going in Circles LIVE we talk with guest Roberto Rodriguez of the Spanish language racing site El Potro Roberto about racing's lack of diversity and how embracing the nations fastest growing demographic, latinos, would pay huge dividends. On the second hour our guest Marty McGee of the Daily Racing Form brings us the latest from Kentucky including the upcoming and unusual Keeneland July meet, how KY horsemen are approaching next weeks Saratoga meet and we touch on the Kentucky Derby and it's being held in such unusual times.
Going in Circles celebrates the history of the sport on Thursdays. Special guest Hall of Fame jockey Pat Day shares his memories of the great racing season of 1987 talking about his rides on Gulch, Java Gold, Theatrical and the disappointment of Kentucky Derby favorite Demons Begone.
The Triple Crown is racing's biggest series but should it be changed? Host Charles Simon and guests Charlie McCarthy, John Scheinman and Jennifer Kelly discussed this topic and several others that pertain to the popular events!
On today's podcast we are joined by guests Chad Summers talking about how things are slowly going back to normal at Belmont and Hall of Fame jockey Jose Santos reminiscing about some of the great horses that he rode during his career.
In our first episode I talk about my hopes for this podcast. Also touch on the fallacy of racing “missing the boat” with the mainstream sports media. Let me know what you think, if you have any ideas or questions at: Goingincirclespodcast@gmail.com
Introducing Going in Circles, a brand new horse racing podcast that is not going to be like other racing shows. Hosted by Charles Simon (@cannonshell on Twitter) this show is going to entertain you while at the same time shedding some light on a lot of the misunderstandings that exist in the great game that is horse racing. No boring segments about the 4th at Laurel or some supertrainer droning on about his team or other dull nonsense. We will be bringing on interesting people somehow connected to racing, hearing stories that you haven’t heard before and hopefully keep you interested enough that you come back to listen again. Listener input will be very important as we want to hear about what you want to hear about! This first preview is only a 5 minutes long listen, so tune in at 0 MTP at GP and you won’t miss any of the racing action!