Bitcoin is Hard

In episode 50 of Bitcoin is Hard, Brian and Fitch take a look back at the past catalogue of episodes and also look back deeper in history to the early internet. It's no doubt, we're at another pivotal moment in Bitcoin's story and this was a wide ranging discussion searching for meaning.

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We brought the whole DLC.link crew to the podcast this week and had a great conversation. This discussion builds on the recent ones about tokenomics and on the concept of can Bitcoin succeed as base currency of Web 3?

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Why are there so many cryptocurrencies? What do they all do? How do they all relate to Bitcoin? Is the future multi chain?

This is now my favorite episode of Bitcoin is Hard, for 7 years I’ve been on this journey of trying to figure out what role Bitcoin is playing in the world and what role other cryptocurrencies and tokens may or may not have.

Hope you enjoy part 1 and huge thanks to Nate for hanging out for so long and walking us through his ideas that he has been piecing together over those same several years.  Like, subscribe, comment, and share this episode with a friend who needs to hear it!

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Here’s a mash up of the best moments from Bitcoin is Hard talking about real estate featuring Josip Rupena, Bobby Shell, Bobby Fijan,  George Mekhail, Daniel Frank, and Samson Jagoras.

Real Estate has been the tried and true way to build wealth, could Bitcoin be next? Is there crossover between the assets? We’ll find out!

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Ever since episode 1 of Bitcoin is Hard with my friend George Mekhail we have exploring the idea of Bitcoin and crypto mortgages. Our real estate playlist of episodes is among the most watched and engaged with. What is interesting about Milo is they weren’t founded as a crypto company, they are and always have been a mortgage lender to borrowers who don’t fit into the “prime box”.

That’s immediately what made Milo stick out to me is that they have a history of making mortgage loans work in the absence of regular W2 income, citizenship and FICO scores. What’s cool about this is they are bringing Bitcoin and crypto to their industry and using it to evolve on products they have already found huge success with.

Hope you enjoy this conversation with Milo CEO Josip Rupena! 

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For the last few years I have been primarily focused on Bitcoin adoption in the physical world and how it will show up in taco shops and small businesses and e commerce businesses for shipping physical goods. Doing all this I mostly allowed web 3 and DeFi to take a back seat mentally, recently I’ve been poking around to see what may or may not have changed since I last looked into it and how the movement parallels or doesn’t parallel Bitcoin.

Super appreciate Patrick for hanging out with me on the show and talking through a lot of developing thoughts with him! If anything sticks out to you shoot us a tweet!

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This is now the cornerstone of our Bitcoin and Real Estate crossover playlist! I loved this convo and hope you enjoy it! I’m so thankful that Bobby Fijan came on to talk to us about what goes into apartment buildings being the way they are.

We used that concept to get into great detail on:

• How excel and cap rates drive decisions and good or bad floor plans are an after thought
• How real estate developers think about money the currency USD
• How real estate and Bitcoin are on the back of the same fundamentals that USD is not working as a signaling device
• Zoning laws impact on development and how long term holders make the best decisions
• Why fix the money fix the world is a thing and how the monetary policy of Bitcoin can be a rallying point 

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For episode 41 of Bitcoin is Hard, here’s a look back at the best moments of our conversations with Jim Crider, Isaiah Douglass, Trent Duddenhoeffer, Morgen Rochard, and Andy Flattery. All five of these individuals have active advisory businesses and mature takes on how Bitcoin works as an asset and how it intersects with building a wealth building plan.

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Andy Schoonover is the CEO of CrowdHealth, a company that set out to disrupt the old school insurance model by combining the power of bitcoin with health care crowdfunding.

In our podcast conversation we cover:

• The current state of health insurance
• How introducing market forces can change the game
• The future outlook of healthcare in the U.S.
• How bitcoin + crowdfunding works

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Jaran is an analyst at Arcane Research and has a master’s degree in energy management. He has combined his deep knowledge of value investing analysis with an understanding of energy markets to be a top voice on how public bitcoin mining companies can be analyzed.

In our podcast conversation we cover:

• What is it like thinking about the US stock market from Norway
• What is the main problem and solution that is causing so much discussion about Bitcoin’s energy use
• What is the purpose of value investing analysis and how does it work
• Which public mining stock is the best and why to buy mining stocks 

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Guest: Mills

Record Date: April 20, 2022

Record Location: Remote

From the OG ish days of the infamous New York Bit Devs Meet Up to the southern powerhouse of Nashville Tennessee all the way to calling in from a Bitcoin meet up in the Netherlands, Mills has seen most corners of the Bitcoin community. Brian and Mills take a meandering discussion through what Bitcoin community means, how it intersects with the personal finance side of Bitcoin, and draw parallels to other places where people gather.

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Guest: Bruce Fenton

Record Date: April 21, 2022

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Long time Bitcoiner and New Hampshire Free Stater Bruce Fenton is running for US Senate. Brian and Bruce talk about the realities of how to change the world and how Bitcoin the movement is doing at gaining traction. Bruce talks about his history in finance and the stock market as well as talks about his years of being involved in Bitcoin media.

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Guest: Trevor Owens

Record Date: March 17, 2022

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Stacks has made a lot of noise as a Bitcoin side chain and this episode with Trevor Owens, Managing Partner of Stacks Ventures is a great overview of the case for Stacks.  Trevor makes a lot of intriguing points about how Bitcoin needs to be more competitive against other chains. Brian and Trevor also talk about the pros and cons of what Trevor terms Bitcoin pegged altcoins vs free floating altcoins. Sidechains and layer 2’s are going to continue to be a big part of Bitcoin discussions and hopefully, this episode sheds some light on the goals that Stacks has.

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Guest: Aaron and Austin of Altcoin Daily

Record Date: April 8, 2022

Record Location: Bitcoin 2022 Conference, Miami Beach Convention Center

This episode contains Friday morning beach vibes with Aaron and Austin of Altcoin Daily as we break down the Bitcoin 2022 conference, get their backstory on moving to LA, investing in Bitcoin, and being in the entertainment industry. Brian breaks down his reaction to several of the talks and the Altcoin Daily guys react to his theories about Bitcoin side chains. If you’re a fan of Altcoin Daily don’t miss this 50 minute deep dive on Aaron and Austin.

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Guest: Austin Woodward, Co-Founder and CEO at TaxBit

Record Date: March 28, 2022

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You can’t have a podcast about personal finance without covering the topic of taxes. What I like about the software that Austin and his team at TaxBit build is it’s not only focused on helping plug in the right numbers into the right boxes it’s focused on helping you automate your wealth building. Austin Woodward founded and is CEO of TaxBit and we get into just what that means to have software that is smart enough to tell you how to owe less. 

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Guest: Trent Dudenhoeffer

Record Date: March 17, 2022

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The 3rd episode in our orange pilled Certified Financial Planner series is Trent Dudenhoeffer of Watchdog Capital. Brian and Trent center the discussion around Trent’s recent article for Bitcoin Magazine about the role of financial advisors in a hyperbitcoinized world. Defining hyperbitcoinization, Trent’s personal Bitcoin budgeting process, and Watchdog Capital are also covered. Trent wraps up with our classic question about what Bitcoin product or service he would love to see created.

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Guest: Jason Lowery

Record Date: February 10, 2022

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This episode is our most cosmic episode to date (pun intended) with Jason Lowery of MIT and the Space Force. Brian and Jason cover everything from MIT grounded theory analysis, helping no coiners visualize Bitcoin, Bitcoin and property rights, home bitcoin mining with solar, and more! This is also the shortest interview currently available that Jason has done so if you’ve seen his name around and are curious about what he thinks we made this specifically for you in mind. Send your thoughts to Brian and Jason on twitter!

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Guest: Mitch, Brian, and Don of Kansas City Bitcoin Meet Up

Record Date: February 25, 2022

Record Location: Kansas City, MO

The Choice crew had a ton of fun in Kansas City visiting the local Bitcoin meet up. While we were there we sat down with Mitch, Brian, and Don to hear about Bitcoin in their town and asked them about how they all manage their personal finances during these transitionary times.

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Guest: Sam, My Financial Friend

Record Date: January 25, 2022

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Sam has a wild story of leaving his day job and starting his YouTube channel. So many people learn about Bitcoin and crypto from YouTube that we wanted to really get to know the person behind one of these popular crypto channels. Brian and Sam cover Sam’s journey through working at a bank, investing in the stock market, buying a house, and investing in Bitcoin/crypto. Hit up both Brian and Sam on twitter to let them know what you think of the episode.

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Guest: Jeff Fenster, CEO of Everbowl

Record Date: February 16, 2022

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In a super public announcement, Jeff Fenster, CEO of Everbowl launched his company onto the Bitcoin standard. Citing “excessive debasement of the US Dollar” among his reasons for making the move the company put it’s reserves into Bitcoin. Everbowl is also pursuing integrating Bitcoin into their company in other ways through giving the option to pay with Bitcoin at their point of sale and giving employees the option to get paid in Bitcoin. Brian breaks down Jeff’s track record of being a high performer and talks with Jeff about all the exciting developments around Everbowl upgrading to Bitcoin. 

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Guest: Marty Bent

Record Date: February 9, 2022

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Marty Bent and his co-host Matt Odell have had an immeasurable impact on moving the world from a fiat standard to a Bitcoin standard through their motivating and inspiring podcast Tales from the Crypt. Their show has truly had a big impact on my life and the way that I look at Bitcoin and use Bitcoin for me and my family. In a brief 40 minutes, Marty and I cover how we are the generation that will write the advice on how to budget in Bitcoin and how we are thinking about sats flow.

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CK is the Managing Director of Bitcoin Magazine and a self avowed personal finance enthusiast. Brian and CK have been going back and forth about Bitcoin and personal finance for a couple years now and we wanted to bring him onto Bitcoin is Hard to get CK’s current Bitcoin budgeting strategy and thoughts. The conversation gets deep quick on the need for financial literacy and ends talking about real estate which is a hot underreported topic in Bitcoin. Hope you enjoy this episode and send any feedback or thoughts you have over to us on twitter!

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Guest: Joel Valenzuela

Record Date: January 20, 2022

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Joel stopped using a bank account in 2016 and has never looked back. We had to get him on Bitcoin is Hard to tell us about his personal finance journey and his cryptocurrency journey to learn how he does that and makes that life decision work. Joel has a channel on YouTube called the Digital Cash Network and covers lots of different topics around how people are using cryptocurrency as day to day money.

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Guest: Andrew Begin

Record Date: January 19, 2022

Record Location: Twitter Spaces

This was our first live recording during our Choice twitter spaces. Andrew Begin from Galoy stopped by to cover his great blog post on lessons learned from Bitcoin Beach. Bitcoin Beach was the tip of the spear several years ago with micro communities beginning to all adopt Bitcoin as money and Galoy came along side them to develop a Bitcoin wallet to match their needs. Andrew and Brian talk about what other communities are doing around the world now using takeaways and knowledge from the success of Bitcoin Beach in El Zonte El Salvador.

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Guest: Britt Kelly

Record Date: January 7, 2022

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Brian and Britt jammed on BTC Pay Server and talked about Bitcoin budgeting and talked about how the tools that Bitcoiners have available to them have evolved over time. The conversation explores how the tools evolving overtime have had a real impact on how each class of adopters perceive and understand the way that Bitcoin can be used in their personal finances.

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Guest: Trystine Payfer

Record Date: January 6, 2022

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George Gammon has a great quote where he says “investors have gone from having to ask themselves economics questions to having to ask themselves political questions.” Brian is joined by Trystine who is Director of Communications at Riot and a founding member of Sats Center. Trystine has years of experience in public policy and has briefed elected officials of all levels on Bitcoin. This episode covers what individuals can do to advance Bitcoin in their local community.

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Guest: Ryan Gentry

Record Date: December 2, 2021

Record Location: Capitol Factory Austin, TX

The Choice Crew was on location in Austin, TX for the Bitcoin Block Party put on by Austin Bitcoin Club and Oshi App. Brian was able to sit down with Ryan Gentry of lightning labs for a quick update on all things lightning adoption. Ryan talked about his experience in El Salvador and how its fun seeing lightning adoption happen right here in Austin where he grew up!

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Guest: Ryan Radloff, Chief Blinko Officer at Choice

Record Date: December 27, 2021

Record Location: Remote

For the final episode of Bitcoin is Hard for 2021 Brian sits down with Choice CEO Ryan Radloff to discuss the biggest feature shipped in Choice App in 2021, Blinko, the game that pays you daily sats to pay attention to your retirement savings. Choice is on a mission to fix the savings crisis in America and Blinko is a game on a mission. Thanks to everyone for listening and sharing Bitcoin is Hard this year. We’ll see you on the next one!

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Guest: Jason Les

Record Date: December 9, 2021

Record Location: Riot Blockchain office, Costa Mesa, CA

Brian sits down with Jason Les, CEO of Riot Blockchain. Jason discusses Riot's mission to accumulate as much bitcoin as possible and secure the bitcoin network through proof-of-work mining, a mission that closely aligns with Jason's personal goals as a bitcoiner.

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Episode four of Bitcoin is Hard features Isaiah Douglas, financial advisor at Vincere Wealth Management

Isaiah is one of a growing number of financial advisor Bitcoiners that can be found on Bitcoin twitter. Brian and Isaiah met while Isaiah was moderating a panel at Coindesk’s recent financial advisor conference. They quickly realized they’re on the same page in terms of thinking about how Bitcoin is becoming more and more central to personal financial decisions and are excited to keep exploring how best practices when it comes to personal finances is changing. Enjoy the episode and send any thoughts to Brian at twitter.com/brainharrington!

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The second episode of Bitcoin is hard is a refreshing conversation with Jim Crider, a financial planner who is also a Bitcoiner. Brian and Jim discuss how the medium term is currently the hardest time frame to plan for and also discuss how having optionality between Bitcoin being a currency or an asset in the future could be a good idea.

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The pilot episode of Bitcoin is Hard is a natural recording of a conversation Brian and George had about how Bitcoin is becoming more central to people’s personal finances and how buying real estate is often on the minds of Bitcoiners. George has been a mortgage broker in a past life and laid out a few potential scenarios for the future of these two worlds colliding.

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