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The Clean Libertarian Podcast

The Clean Libertarian Podcast

By Drew Cook
Liberty • Recovery • Family
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Episode 80: The Bureaucrats & Their Consequences w/Jay
ay joins us this week to talk about people who love the system more than the mission. Bureaucracy has manifested and multiplied in every single system at play in modern day America, and Jay provides us with some insight on not only the depths of this, but what we can do to combat this threat to liberty.   Thanks for tuning in and we will see you next week! Big love!
January 16, 2022
Episode 79: My Story
This is a re-upload of "Episode 9: My Journey Into Recovery" to commemorate my 2 year clean date. I was initially going to take this week off but decided to give anyone that hasn't heard my story before an opportunity to do so. Thank you so much for tuning in and for all that many amazing moments both my guests and audience have given me. Y'all are truly amazing. Big love and we will see y'all next week!
January 08, 2022
Episode 78: The Dad Roundtable #3
I'm joined once again by BK, KRS Jac, Jeremiah, and Evan. Making a special appearance for this episode is our friend Tommy Salmons from the Year Zero podcast. On this episode we talk about things we've learned over the past year and discuss goals that we have for 2022, taking ample time to flirt with the chaos that has become a staple for this series.    Check out Tommy's stuff over at:   Thank you all SO MUCH for making 2021 such a memorable year. We've heard a lot of powerful stories from fellow travelers and I'm looking forward to much more of the same this upcoming year. Big love and we will see y'all next week!
January 02, 2022
Episode 77: Kaitlin Garcia
This week I'm joined by fellow OKLP member, Kaitlin Garcia, to discuss her story and also her upcoming campaign. Kaitlin is an activist with a passion for liberty who stands a real chance on making a difference in this state. Check out her website:  Thanks for tuning in, we will see y'all next week! Big love!
December 26, 2021
Episode 76: Co-parenting w/Destiny
I'm joined this week by my daughter's mom to discuss the ways in which we co-parent. We've always been able to just communicate and find a way through the various pitfalls without needing to involve a judge, though through discussions with other people, it's apparent that this isn't usually the case so we wanted to highlight some of the things that make our dynamic work. We are hopeful that someone out there can find this illuminating and maybe turn some of their frustrations into victories.  As always, thanks for tuning in and we will see y'all next week! Big love!
December 19, 2021
Episode 75: Navigating the Holidays w/Mrs Clean Libertarian
My better half joins me again to discuss the mine field that is holidays with the family. Let's be honest, the holidays can be tricky ESPECIALLY for those of us in recovery. This conversation just breaks down some of the pitfalls and scenarios to look out for.  Thanks for tuning in and we will see yall next week!
December 05, 2021
Episode 74: Ollie's Story
On today's episode, I'm joined by the wonderful Ollie Adamson, a man of God, freelance writer, and author of "Strawberries Are Red: A Story of Compelled Speech" (available on Amazon), to share his incredible story of recovery. In this episode you will hear of the fall and rise of someone who was faced with 2 decisions: get clean or dive into oblivion. This episode is chock full of wisdom, especially if you've struggled at any length with recovery and facing your demons.    Be sure and follow Ollie on Twitter and also check out the Liberty Quill!   Twitter: @MrOliverAdamson  Website:
November 29, 2021
Episode 73: Old School Recovery w/Derek
Today's guest is Derek, a friend from Twitter who I've thoroughly enjoyed getting to know and also someone who is working a solid program. Derek's sponsorship is among some of the "old school" methods that seems abrasive to the untrained observer, but it's exactly the type that saved an addict like myself and it worked wonders for him as well. Check it out and be sure to follow Subby on the Bird App: @Subby_22  Thanks for tuning in and we will see y'all next week!
November 21, 2021
Episode 72: Wtf is Meditation? w/Ash
I'm joined again by friend of the podcast, Ash, to discuss meditation and how it can benefit not just members of the recovery community but anyone. About halfway through he goes through a guided mediation and we both drop some knowledge on what we've learned about this vital life skill.  Also, be on the lookout for his upcoming book!  Thanks for tuning in and we will see yall next week! Big love!!!
November 14, 2021
Episode 71: Special Edition w/ Lil Clean Libertarian
Today I'm joined by my wonderful daughter to talk about what it's like being such an awesome kid living with the coolest dad ever. She expands on her point of view and tells us what she would like to see society accomplish by the time she reaches my age. Background sound of snoring and rustling around are compliments of Bodacious the American Bulldog.   Make sure to leave any questions or comments for us either in the comments on Youtube or find the Episode upload on our Twitter page @clean_podcast   Thanks for tuning in and we will see y'all next week!
November 07, 2021
Episode 70: Wedge's Story
On this episode I'm joined by my friend, Wedge, who has found recovery from alcoholism. During this interview you'll hear a story involving a slow drift into insanity, the loving embrace of a fellowship, and the redemption of a man of character. Wedge hits us with several examples on what the 12 step community consists of and he does so with his incredibly beautiful story. Enjoy and Happy Halloween!!! Be sure and give Wedge a follow on Twitter: @Jalykakik
October 31, 2021
Episode 69: The Dad Roundtable #2
This week's Dad Roundtable consists of KRS, Evan, BK, & Jeremiah. We hung out for a spell and talked about Showgirls being a solid analogy for rearing our children right, how to talk to our kids about drugs, holiday gift ideas for dads, and so much more. Anytime I get the opportunity to hang out with these guys it's always such a good time! Be sure and follow these guys on Twitter:  KRS: @KRS_JAC Evan: @AltsUpdated BK: @beer_hadn Jeremiah: @PanarchyJay
October 24, 2021
Episode 68: Crypto Convo w/Thom
This week I am joined by my buddy Thom, co-host of the Winner Gets Nothing podcast and host of Trash Talks, to talk about crypto. This episode is a break from the usual types of conversations that I have and we just kind of broadly talked about the crypto market, which coins to look out for, and somehow in the process we ended up talking about NFTs and the Sopranos. All in all, this was a fun chat and I found it to be pretty informative! Be sure and check out Thom's podcast on Spotify (Winner Gets Nothing) and follow him on Twitter @WinnerGetsNoPod
October 17, 2021
Episode 67: Grace w/KRS Jac
I had the honor of sitting down with my good friend KRS Jac and talking about his testimony. Jac is one of those people who I thoroughly enjoy getting to spend time talking to and getting to hear his story was something I got a lot out of. If you don't have people in your life who elevate you...FIND THEM! I've been blessed to find my people and I'm grateful for friendships like I've found with KRS. If you're looking for a story of grace and redemption, look no further than this episode!  Be sure and follow him on Twitter for daily reminders to take it easy and appreciate the world around you. Legitimately the most wholesome account on my TL: @KRS_JAC
October 10, 2021
Episode 66: Britt's Story
I had the absolute honor of sitting down with Britt, co-host of the FAB Show and someone who has overcome some serious obstacles in their life, to discuss her journey through food addiction and binge eating. When we talk about addiction, so often do we focus on the substance utilized and not enough attention is given to the underlying problems that led us to those behaviors. Britt does a spectacular job of pointing this out as well as being gut-level honest about her struggles and accomplishments. I, for one, and beyond grateful that she had the courage to come on the show and talk about this and I hope it reaches others who need to hear it. Having been someone that has struggled with the same issues, this was a nice shot of "hope" for the road I have in front of me.  Be sure and follow Britt on social media and check out the FAB Show! FAB Show: Britt's Twitter: @TweetsByBritt
October 03, 2021
Episode 64: The Dad Rountable w/KRS Jac, BK, & Evan
These are some wild times we are in. A lot of unrest surrounding politics, social justice, medical decisions, and everything in between. Raising a family during these times can be daunting task, so I wanted to do an episode that provides some solutions to these problems by inviting on a few men who I see doing a phenomenal job in their homes. A hope that all of us have is that you find some strength and hope just knowing there's others out there doing what they gotta do to stay strong and step up tp the plate for their families. Keep those chins up, kings. Big love.
September 17, 2021
Episode 63: Drug Use For Grown-Ups w/Dr Carl Hart
Dr Hart is a renowned scholar as well as author of his most recent title "Drug Use For Grown-Ups" where he breaks down some of the stigma surrounding drug use by providing data from his own research as well as stories from his own personal experiences. We got to sit down and discuss his journey into his current mindset as well as where he thinks the country will go next in terms of changing drug policy. This was a phenomenal interview with a ton of great information put forth!  Check out his website: 
September 12, 2021
Episode 62: Punk Rock and Recovery w/Lizzy Lasher
I've got a fantastic show lined out for y'all this week with the awesome Lizzy Lasher! A classic story of punk rock, addiction, misery, and finding a way to rise above one's situation to pursue freedom. It's an honor to be able to sit down with some many wonderful voices of hope and encouragement, Lizzy is no exception to that! Be sure and give her  follow on Twitter @Lizzylasher7
August 30, 2021
Episode 61: Chopping It Up w/Ash
I had the pleasure of sitting back down with Ash to mull over a whole litany of topics. We briefly touched on some pints from his last appearance (Episode 57) and covered some new ground. At the end he lays some more of his writing on us and I'm telling y'all this is going to be a kickass book the man is writing. 
August 22, 2021
Episode 60: Dance Safe
I am joined by the wonderful Rachel from Dance Safe, a non-profit community focused organization that is doing PHENOMANAL work in the club and night life community. I've known about this organization since I was a young knucklehead out there running wild and I was delighted to hear that not only are they still around, but they're doing way more to help the community! Check them out and pitch in if you're able to, also sign up to be a volunteer if you're able to do so. You know we are all about mutual aid around here and this organization is a sterling example of that!
August 16, 2021
Episode 59: How to Organize w/Dan Taxation Is Theft Behrman
This is an episode that has been LOOOONG past due. Dan has been a supporter of the Clean Libertarian project since its inception. Many of you will know Dan from his run for the POTUS nomination bid in the LP and for those that don''re in for a treat. Dan has a keen ability to organize and present libertarian ideas in a way that the majority of people find palpable. He gives us a breakdown on his current gubernatorial campaign in Texas and how he's going about organizing it. These are some fresh ideas that I've not heard before and I'm excited to see how far he can take this! Check him out and donate if you can: also check out his merch which is TOP NOTCH: 
August 08, 2021
Episode 58: A Trillion Dollar Racket w/Brian Saady
This is one of the more in depth interviews I've done that really lays bare exactly how far gone US interventionism is especially in terms of foreign drug policy. My guest, author Brian Saady, is extremely nuanced in his discussions pertaining to the Iran Contra affair, The School of the Americas (WHINSEC), the current breakdown on Haiti, and many other topics. This interview has a ton of information and is well worth the listen. Absolutely follow Brian and his tremendous work at 
July 25, 2021
Episode 57: 12 Steps to Liberty w/Ash
A few weeks back I had someone reach out to me after they had listened to the episode with Spike and said they were working on a book that mirrored my thoughts on the very real 12 steps to libertarian pipeline. Ash quickly became someone I was bound and determined to get on the podcast to share not only his experience, strength, and hope, but also an excerpt or two from what he is working on. This was a REALLY damn good interview, Ash has an awesome story and a flair for writing. I hope yall enjoy and be on the lookout for future appearances with this great example of recovery!
July 18, 2021
Episode 56: Fired Up w/Martha Bueno
I had the honor and privilege of sitting down with a spectacular voice in the liberty movement, Marth Bueno. Martha is spearheading efforts to reach out to the Hispanic community with Libertarios Hispanos on LPTV, she is also running for County Commissioner in Miami-Dade and in doing so has been an illuminating voice on the perils of continuing the disastrous war on drugs. This was a phenomenal interview and great conversation that covers a multitude of topics from abysmal immigration policy to how government has royally screwed up the medical cannabis market in Florida. You DON'T want to miss this episode! Be sure and find Martha on social media and chip in on her campaign if able! Twitter: @MarthaBueno18
July 11, 2021
Episode 55: Sobriety & Education w/RT
I'm joined today by my friend RT so he can tell us about his sobriety as well as his experiences in the public education system. RT makes a compelling case for libertarians to get involved in public education while providing a story of hope.
July 04, 2021
Episode 54: Finding Freedom w/John Odermatt
I had the privilege and honor of sitting down with the person that helped get the Clean Libertarian project off the ground. John is the host of Finding Freedom (formerly Felony Friday) and he has done a remarkable job at highlighting stories of hope and courage from those who have been churned through the criminal justice system. We had a fantastic conversation about how he got started on his journey, what he's learned, and where he hopes to see this journey lead to someday. Be sure and follow him on social media and check out his coffee startup, Run Your Mouth Coffee ( Twitter: @RYMCoffee, @JohnOdermatt 
June 27, 2021
Episode 53: Making the Change w/Drafty Bastard
I had the honor of sitting down with Drafty and hearing the story of his downfall and his recovery. There's some seriously profound points that Draft brings up in regards to what it takes to truly get this deal and to get it well. When we get sober, it's up to US to make this new life work for us and that's exactly what we cover in this episode. Absolutely listen, share it around, and follow drafty on Twitter: @DraftyBastard 
June 13, 2021
Episode 52: Blueprints for Recovery w/Christopher Dreiesbach
Today's guest is a shining example of what happens when an addict of the hopeless variety grabs a hold of recovery and truly turns their life around. Not only is Christopher someone who managed to get and stay clean, but he has also taken that experience and used it as fuel for several initiatives in his local community not the least of which was to get local drug policy changed so addicts are sent to treatment rather than to prison. This was a fantastic conversation about learning to live abundantly after a lifetime of failures. Awesome stuff! Be sure and follow Christopher and his friends along their journey by visiting their websites and if you have a question or need to reach out, I've provided his email address as well. email: 
June 06, 2021
Episode 51: An Antiwar Story w/Scott
Thank you for hanging in there with me while I took the last week off on account of a move, you guys rock!  Today's interview is definitely one I have been wanting to get out there for awhile. The never ending war in the middle east has created countless casualties and it continues onward to this day. My friend, Scott, has one hell of a story to tell about his process of going from a gung ho conservatarian to an antiwar anarchist as a result of his tenure in the Marine Corps. He has taken his flair for working with others and spreading the antiwar message and compiled that into his podcast project, "Why I Am Antiwar". Definitely listen to his story and be sure to follow his podcast and social media accounts for announcements on upcoming projects! Also, to learn more about "Defend The Guard" be sure and check out the link in the shownotes. Twitter: @MDVet4 & @antiwarpodcast  Defend The Guard:
May 30, 2021
Episode 50: S.H.O.T.S.
Today I'm joined by Hana and Duckie from SHOTS (Stop Harm On Tulsa Streets), a non-profit needle exchange that has given out more than 5k doses of Narcan and countless clean needles to addicts that haven't found a way out yet. The beneficial work they are doing is no doubt saving lives and providing using addicts with the opportunity of another tomorrow through harm reduction. I wanted to have them on to highlight both the wonderful things their organization is doing as well as how someone could get something like this off of the ground. Feel free to reach out to them on Facebook with any questions you might have and if you have the ability to donate, there is an option on their FB page as well!
May 16, 2021
Episode 49: Spike's Story
This was a REALLY great interview with the 2020 LP Vice Presidential candidate, Spike Cohen. I'd heard that Spike was someone in recovery but only ever heard him briefly mention his story before and really wanted to delve into it. Not only did we get to touch on some of the finer points of what brought him into living a clean lifestyle but we broke down some of the lessons learned along the way. All in all this is yet another fantastic story of hope that declares there is abundant life after addiction.  To follow along with Spike be sure and find him on social media (Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, TikTok) and his website:
May 11, 2021
Episode 48: Ranting & Raving w/Mrs Clean Libertarian
My better half joins me once again to have a small debate on a few of her apprehensions regarding legalizing drugs and we just kind of riffed from there. There's something special about finding someone who puts up with your insanity, it's even more special when they contribute to it! We cover banning menthols, vaccine passports, true crime murder podcasts, and a few other things. Enjoy! Find her on social media: Twitter - @hilayglynxo TikTok - @drphilary 
May 03, 2021
Episode 47: Spreading the Message w/Ricky Dale Harrington Jr
Ricky came across my radar last year when he was running against incumbent Tom Cotton for Arkansas Senate. There's something about the way he is able to spread the message of liberty while also having been involved in ministry that has earned my respect. We talked about everything from ending the wars of aggression to the abysmal state that the criminal justice system is currently in. Check it out and be sure to follow him on social media and donate to his campaign for Governor! Twitter: @RickDHarrington Website:
April 25, 2021
Episode 46: Be Bold w/Angela McArdle
I had the honor of sitting down with the future LP National chair, Angela McArdle, to talk about the lackluster messaging that has been coming out of the national party as well as the gross overstepping the state and federal governments have done in the wake of C*vid. It's a breath of fresh air when you run across someone who is just as fed up with the way things are as you and they're actually putting in the work to do something about it. Be sure and follow along with Angela's campaign trail and if she's going to be at your state convention. Also, find out how the delegation selection process works at your state affiliate so you can go to Reno in 2022 and cast a vote for her yourself! We NEED this type of boldness coming from a party that touts individual freedom!  Check Angela out at her website: Or on Twitter: @angela4LNCChair
April 18, 2021
Episode 45: Work for Liberty
Too often do we see people who are working jobs they loathe and pursuing their passions between time clock punches. My guest today has made it his goal to find an avenue for those in the liberty movement to be able to find employment doing what they love: fighting for liberty! Conner lays out the tremendous work he and others have done with their project, Work for Liberty, which is a nationwide network of individuals helping each other find gainful employment in the liberty sphere. He's an author, entrepreneur, marketing whiz, and passionate family man who has really tapped into what he's good at and is utilizing those skills to help others. You love to see it! Check out the Work for Liberty Discord server as well a the other link provided.  Twitter: @cddrigotas Discord: Amazon: Americans for Fair Treatment:
April 11, 2021
Episode 44: The Life Process Program
I've had on plenty of people (including myself) who have found recovery through the 12 step programs. I've also had several on who have found it through other means and I am always excited when I get to hear someone else's perspective on addiction that I've not yet run guest to day is no exception to that. Zach Rhoads is co-author of the book "Outgrowing Addiction" and is a coach with the Life Process Program, an online based recovery program that proclaims itself to be an "alternative to AA". This is a fantastic conversation with a fantastic person who is without a doubt doing some big things in people's lives. Check out his book available on Amazon and be sure to check out the program: Amazon: Life Process Program: Twitter: @rhoadsoda
April 04, 2021
Episode 43: Narcos Breakdown w/Wilson
Really amped up about this interview! I ran across Wilson on Reddit when I stumbled across his creation, r/NarcoStudios701. I've long since wanted to cover exactly what is happening with the cartels in Mexico but the problem is most of the info I ran across was in spanish and I couldn't quite translate much of it. Wilson has made a hobby out of translating this stuff into english and keeping people informed through his subreddit and YouTube channel. Be sure and listen and follow him on the following: YouTube - Reddit - r/NarcoStudios701 Twitter - @cartelstuff701 
March 26, 2021
Episode 42: Guns & Comradery w/Aaron Kenny
Aaron joins me again to discuss guns, the inherent scam that is the NRA, Biden's failing state of consciousness, and some other stuff we ramble about. Aaron and I go way back so when we link up to do an episode we naturally slip into our normal conversations and honestly that's for the best because there's some solid information in there. On top of the conversation Aaron talks about his new substack and hopeful podcast he will be starting up soon which will be an extremely vital source of all things 2nd Amendment and gun rights. Be sure and give him a subscribe and a follow: Substack - Twitter - @1DirtyCivilian
March 21, 2021
Episode 41: Turning It Around w/Jake Howard
Here's another story of redemption from one of the most charismatic guests I've had on the show yet. Jake and I stumbled across each others paths thanks to liberty Twitter and I quickly learned that he was also doing this sobriety thing. I asked him to come on and share both his story into recovery and into liberty. You will definitely enjoy this one! Give Jake a follow on Twitter both @HakeJoward & @soberswolepod 
March 14, 2021
Episode 40: Self Care
An important aspect of living a full life is practicing self care. I wanted to lay some information that I have gathered out there for y'all. It's vital especially within volatile times that we remember to take care of the most important person in our lives: ourselves. This is definitely one of my shorter episodes but it relays adequate information all the same. Thanks for tuning in!
March 08, 2021
Episode 39: Bedtime for the War on Drugs
Guys this is the end all be all of discourse surrounding eliminating the horrendously failed War on Drugs. I brought 3 friends on to help me this: Kevin Hobbie, Rex Lawhorn, and Jose Galison. In this episode we tackle the 5 most commonly used arguments against decriminlization/legalization efforts. With this episode we prove that drug policy exacerbates the issue of drug addiction. Share this one around everywhere you get the chance! Rex Lawhorn: Twitter is @GovRexLawhorn, on Facebook be sure and check out Liberty Mountain Farm Kevin Hobbie: @HobbieReal and for his podcast @ChatsChief Jose Galison: @GlaisonJose and be sure to check out his YouTube channel
February 28, 2021
Episode 38: Voluntaryism In Action
Vountaryism In Action is an organization I have been following for the last few years and they have done some TREMENDOUS things in the way of organizing financial charity for those who need it the most. Not only are these folks working tirelessly to help others but they are also shattering the narrative that people who are against government assistance are somehow against helping those in our communities across the globe who need it the most. Absolutely check this episode out and be sure to follow them on their various social media pages: Twitter - @ActVoluntarily Instagram - Voluntaryism In Action Flote - @VIA MeWe -  Voluntaryism In Action Parler - @VoluntaryismInAction YouTube - Voluntaryism In Action Spotify - VIA Also their latest fundraiser can be found here:
February 21, 2021
Episode 37: Nullification w/Patrick Macfarlane
One of the best weapons we've seen states utilize in combating the war on drugs has been nullification of federal laws surround controlled substances. Patrick (of the Liberty Weekly Podcast) joins me to spread some knowledge on the topic, telling us in the process how this vital instrument came into existence and how it can be utilized today. Patrick is one of the most sane, intelligent, and coherent voices out there when it comes to learning about libertarian philosophy. Trust me, you NEED to follow this guy. You can find him at:
February 19, 2021
Episode 36: DRUGS! w/Jose Galison
Here's an episode I have been wanting to do for a little while but never got around to it until approached by Jose. This is a itemized realistic catalog of the various narcotics on the market and what they do. We also discuss how to do them safely, if someone were to make the decision to use. In no way is this an endorsement of using ANY illicit substances, this is for educational purposes only. Jose is an awesome dude and can be found on: Youtube - Twitter - @GalisonJose
February 10, 2021
Episode 35: WTF is Crypto?!!?! w/Stephen
If you're like me, you have likely wondered what this whole crypto currency thing is all about and how to get started in learning. For this very purpose I had my buddy Stephen show up to lay down some knowledge on us. Where does it come from? How is it made? How do you buy it? All these questions and more are answered so if you've been wondering, here's some information for you! Stephen can be found on Facebook at: Or on Twitter: @LibertyBTC 
February 07, 2021
Episode 34: Gardening 101 w/Erica
Gardening season is quickly approaching and if you're anything like me, you have an intense desire to give a backyard garden a shot but don't know where to even begin. My friend, Erica, agreed to come on the show and give us a brief rundown on how to get started and a few key things to consider. Unfortunately the audio struggled with latency issues but the pertinent information is all right there. Be sure and follow Erica on both Twitter and YouTube. Twitter: @TENerdAnarchist YouTube:
January 31, 2021
Episode 33: Joshua Smith On Campaigning and Recovery
Joshua Smith is an At Large officer for the LNC and is running for LP National Chair in 22. He was cool enough to come on and discuss both his campaign and vision for the party as well as his personal story with us. Josh is someone I admire and respect for the way that he has handled some extremely unfair and harsh criticisms regarding his past, and I would like to formally endorse Joshua Smith for LP Chair!  Follow Josh on Twitter: @JoshuaAtLarge And YouTube at:
January 25, 2021
Episode 32: Of Collapse & Recovery w/Evan
Y'all are in for a treat with this one! I had fellow libertarian and brother in recovery, Evan, on to discuss preparing for potentially dark days ahead and also his story of recovery. I learned some great information on this one and I have no doubt that you will have the same experience! Evan can be found on Twitter @efreshwater5  Also mentioned was the Straightedge Caucus which is @LPStraightedge 
January 17, 2021
Episode 31: Straightedge Liberty w/Kim Ruff
Guys, y'all are in for a treat with this one! I had the always wonderful Kim Ruff on the show to discuss her battle with alcoholism and what steps she's taken to find some freedom from that. We had an in depth conversation on the nature of addiction as well as announcing the begging stages of formulating a Straightedge Caucus within the LP! Kim is also currently running for Arizona Mine Inspector, you can find out more info on her Facebook page or her twitter @kimruff8 
January 09, 2021
Episode 30: New Year, New Hope w/Benevolus
Had the pleasure of kicking off 2021 with hearing about how Benevolus found freedom from a lifestyle of addiction and a new way to live. Be sure and check this one out! 2021 is YOUR year! Check him out on Twitter @RealBenevolus
January 03, 2021
Episode 29: Sharing Recovery w/Jonathon
Today's episode was a pleasure, Jonathon is one of those people who just has a really great spirit and he has a way of describing his journey into recovery that makes sense. We cover recovery, politics, conspiracies and a few other topics that I know yall will get a kick out of. Be sure and give him a follow on Twitter: @the_jon_a_thon 
December 27, 2020
Episode 28: Rebellion, Liberty, and Punk Rock w/Jessi Bennett
On today's episode I had the pleasure of sitting down with someone who is doing all the good for the liberty movement with her particular skill set. Jessi has some awesome viewpoints and provides hope that the up and coming generation of libertarians are passionate about spreading the message in an efficient manner. This was a fun interview! Follow Jessi on Twitter: @jessinicoleb 
December 20, 2020
Episode 27: Keep Coming Back w/Greg
Here's another story of recovery from a fellow libertarian who is involved within the 12 step recovery community. There's some solid wisdom to be found in here and certainly a little something for everyone. Greg has been through some tough times but managed to come out on the other side stronger. This is one of my favorite episodes so far.  DISCLAIMER: As I type this, I'm super worn out from having stayed up all night attempting to smoke some bbq (ended up being a bust), so forgive me if the audio is a little off and the intro/outro lacks the usual pizazz 
December 13, 2020
Episode 26: Guerilla Politics w/Curt
Really solid interview today regarding the future of the LP and the potential direction the party should take. In seeking to end the war on drugs, political means need to be entertained and what better way to do that than by good old political blackmail. This is still a new concept and I'm sure as time goes along it will become much more nuanced, but for the time being this interview does a great job laying the groundwork for what should be a really compelling discussion in the libertarian community.  Be sure and follow Curt on Twitter: @checkmatestate 
December 05, 2020
Episode 25: A Discussion On Policy w/ Matt Sutton
Matt is the director of media relations for the Drug Policy Alliance, serving as the primary liaison between the organization and members of the media. I asked him to come on to describe the awesome work that he and others are doing within the organization and to also explain some of the recent victories seen in this election cycle along with future goals. This was a really informative interview and I hope it pushes you to check out Drug Policy Alliance and to chip in whatever you can to help! 
November 30, 2020
Episode 24: Battle Buddy Session w/Hayden
Hayden and I go way back and have maintained a friendship throughout the slew of ups and downs that life brings. He's one of those people that when I met him it became clear that we understood each other on a real level. We talk about some of that journey and also some of the more humorous points of recovery. This is an excellent episode if you're interested in figuring out some of the finer points regarding recovery and understanding addiction. 
November 30, 2020
Episode 23: The Other Side of the Story w/Mrs Clean Libertarian
Today we get to hear from my lovely wife, Mrs Clean Libertarian herself (Hilary) on what it was like to watch a loved one relapse, and what it means to be in a relationship with someone actively pursuing recovery. This is a great episode for anyone who has a loved one battling addiction or who has found recovery and maybe doesn't know where to find support. 
November 23, 2020
Episode 22: How Legalization Gets It Wrong w/Ashley & Kevin
Really great episode today where I invited on Ashley who is a lawyer and far more in the know on the legal aspect of drug policy than I am to come and talk about where we've seen drug policy go the right way and where we haven't. She is joined by long time friend of the CLP, Kevin Hobbie who expands on some of the finer points and between the two of them some killer nuance is presented. This is the conversation that swayed me into dropping my endorsement of legalization over decriminalization.  Also premiering our very own intro song for the first time, provided by Alex One of the band Whisky Grenade! They've got a new album dropping the first of next year so stay tuned! Ashley: @actshually Kevin: @HobbieReal Alex One: @acidroposy @whiskygrenade 
November 14, 2020
Episode 21: Harm Reduction Recovery w/Trent
In todays episode I was able to bring on Trent to discuss his journey of finding freedom from alcoholism through cannabis. We also discussed kratom, Moderation Management, and what the legal cannabis marketplace looks like. Lots of good information in this one for those who might be looking for an alternative recovery route that isn't 12 step oriented.  Kratom suppliers:                           Moderation Management:
November 10, 2020
Episode 20: The Election That Wouldn't End w/Sapere Aude
Got the gang back together to discuss what we hoped would be an election NIGHT typical 2020 fashion, our plans were ruined se we had to break it up into two separate recordings (and its still loosely up in the air). I always have a great time talking with the boys and I hope yall can find a little humor out of this breakdown from your favorite resident invalids. 
November 08, 2020
CLP Update
Haven’t been able to record any new content due to damage from a recent ice storm. I’m still here and there’s some awesome guests lined up to come on the show once internet service is restored in my area.
November 03, 2020
Episode 19: Sadler Spotlight
I had the pleasure of sitting down to talk with one of the most wholesome candidates I've ever met. Greg Sadler hails from Newalla, Oklahoma and is putting in the footwork to win the District 17 Senate seat. Greg is an easy going guy who doesn't shy away from the hard hitting topics he's been confronted with in this election cycle.  Website:
October 25, 2020
Episode 18: Wilder Larkin on Recovery, Philosophy, and Gardening
This was a really fun episode! I love when people who have been through hell and back share their story of hope with others and this episode is no exception to that! Wilder tells us about where she came from, what happened, and what it's like for her now. I hope yall enjoy this awesome story of compassion, self examination, and determination. 
October 18, 2020
Episode 17: The Armed Bear on Bottom Unity, Hoppeans, & Lolbertarians for Biden
I really enjoyed this episode. Jay is one of those sage individuals who really knows how to convey his principled stances and it was great hearing from him regarding the concept of bottom unity and what (if any) relation there is to libertarianism and the growing LibSoc movement. We also delve into Hoppeans and the utterly brainless "movement" the is the "Libertarians for Joe" group that is attempting to gain traction.
October 12, 2020
Episode 16: Benefits of the LP w/Chris Powell
the 2018 OKLP gubernatorial candidate and current Bethany City Councilman Chris Powell came on the show to discuss the benefits to the Libertarian Party and why running liberty candidates in the old parties are not good enough. Chris brings his expertise and flair for analysis into the conversation and adds experienced perspective to the subject at hand.  Chris' website: Twitter: @okcspowell 
October 04, 2020
Episode 15: Prohibition & Lock the Clock w/Joe Hartman
Today I had the pleasure of talking to Joe Hartman regarding his run for congress in Michigan's 8th district as well as his position on ending the Drug War, he then went on to discuss something I haven't really thought about: ending Daylight Savings Time. All in all this was a really fun conversation and a closer look at where the government gets it wrong, both in regards to addiction and our most precious commodity...our time.  You can read more about #LockTheClock at: Joe's website:
September 26, 2020
Episode 14: Defining a Cult, The Story of Our Experience at My Brothers Keeper w/Justin
I had my buddy Justin back on so we could discuss our time in MBK, a faith based rehabilitation center that uses questionable methods and has even more questionable outcomes. What happens when a drug dealer goes from selling heroin to selling Jesus? Tune in to find out.
September 13, 2020
Episode 13: The Case for Legalization w/Sapere Aude
I had the pleasure of sitting down with Dylan and Aaron from Sapere Aude and getting into the finer points of why legalization is the ideal path forward when discussing ending the War on Drugs and how best to combat the fear mongering that occurs therein. 
September 02, 2020
Episode 12: An Interview w/The ToddFather
The always awesome Todd Hagopian comes on the show to discuss his current run for Oklahoma Corporation Commission, the Mises Caucus, the OKLP, and a little bit about recovery. Check out Todd's website for info on his campaign and ways to donate.
August 30, 2020
Episode 11: The Power of Local LP Affiliates w/Rex Lawhorn
The always awesome Rex Lawhorn joins me to discuss the LP affiliates as well as the pathway forward from retaining ballot access and what local efforts we can be making in our respective communities.
August 24, 2020
Episode 10: Recovery and Liberty w/Taylor Sandell
My good friend Taylor comes on to discuss his journey into recovery and where we hope to see society progress in terms of viewing addiction.
August 22, 2020
Episode 9: My Journey into Recovery
Here's my recovery story, not much more to say beyond that. If you or someone else you know struggles with addiction dont hesitate to reach out to me on Twitter (@clean_podcast)
August 15, 2020
Episode 8: Discussing the Left w/Kevin Hobbie
Here we talk about how discounting blocks of the left is a self defeating endeavor and how there's ample opportunity to red pill just as many from that side of the spectrum as there is on the right.
August 09, 2020
Episode 7: Chillin w/Justin
We kind of bounce all over the place in this episode, we catch up and talk about current events.
August 01, 2020
Episode 6: Discussing the 2A w/Aaron Kenny
On this episode Aaron joins me to discuss the second amendment and current events. Aaron is a long time friend and gun ownership advocate who provides a very nuanced perspective on where we are and where we need to go from here.
July 20, 2020
Episode 5: Charity via Voluntaryism
In this episode we discuss how libertarians can benefit their movement through charity and outreach while simultaneously benefiting their communities.
July 16, 2020
Episode 4: A Synopsis On Recovery
In this episode I explain the recovery process in the most simplistic way possible and point out how the 12 steps are an avenue to understanding personal liberty and responsibility.
June 21, 2020
Episode 3: Debunking the Drug War
In this episode we tackle 4 big myths used to continue the war of drugs.
June 15, 2020
Episode 2: The Failure of the Nanny State
I dive into a chapter of the book I've been writing and we paint a picture for how this government has gotten their battle against drug addiction so wrong.
June 13, 2020
Episode 1: Intro & Background
A rundown on the what I've been up to lately and where this podcast hopes to take us
June 07, 2020