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ClothTalk (2006-2007)

ClothTalk (2006-2007)

By Chris Brightwell

Join us as we explore Scouting's history through collectibles! Contact chris.brightwell@gmail.com with questions or comments.

Note that this is an ARCHIVE ONLY feed of a podcast that we created in 2006 and 2007. We lost the website and most of the data on the site a long time ago, but I found this archive on an old hard drive. I am sharing it here for posterity.
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29 - Together at Last

ClothTalk (2006-2007)Jul 10, 2019

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29 - Together at Last

29 - Together at Last

We’re duplicating the ‘Arrow Ads’ DVDs, which you can purchase online right now at CoosaShows.net.

We talk with John Pannell about some World Jamboree patches that are already coming out. (including issues from Egwa Tawa Dee 129, Aal-Pa-Tah 237, O-Shot-Caw 265, Talidandaganu 293, Amangamek Wipit 470, Black Eagle 482, Yokahu 506) We also speak about Tipisa Lodge 326’s new Memorial Day backpatch, And a new potential fake (S11) from Wahunsenakah Lodge 333. For more information on any of these subjects, check out John’s blog at oaimages.com.

Also this week, Ben shares his story of the final two Kaskanampo 310 patches issued before the lodge merged (the S21 and F5). Listen in for the interesting tales associated with these two final patches.

Jul 10, 201950:12
28 - Arrow Ads
Jul 10, 201943:51
27 - Headed to Camp Sidney Dew

27 - Headed to Camp Sidney Dew

This episode Ben heads to New Orleans while Tim visits Camp Sidney Dew and the SR-6 South Conclave. Meanwhile, Brandon visits his SR-7B Conclave at Camp Durant. Sit back and enjoy cloth swapping stories and photos from the heart of Carthage, North Carolina.

Also, John Pannell builds a pond and tells us about his connection to the earliest “Home of the ____ Chief” Flaps

Jul 10, 201921:56
26 - Easter Egwa
Jul 10, 201939:39
25 - Bill Topkis, Pt. 2

25 - Bill Topkis, Pt. 2

Better late than never right? Sorry for the missed episode last time. Our brains were on spring break and they took our computers with them. But we’re back this week with the second half of our incredible interview with one of Scouting’s most notable collectors and historians: Bill Topkis.

Join us as Bill talks about the golden days of trading at events like the one he attended in Navarro California, as well as some of the best ways to store your collection archivally. Do you know the secret of the oldest known vigil pin? Bill does. But that’s not all, Bill knows a lot more about these OA Totem pins that predated flaps—like the elusive moose and the original gold turkey? Tune in as Bill gives us the scoop.

Jul 10, 201954:04
24 - Patch trader? Collector? Historian.
Jul 10, 201944:20
23 - Hawk Days

23 - Hawk Days

This week Ben and Tim talk to James Tarbox, Chief of Coosa Lodge. James is not only the youngest chief ever be elected in the lodge, but also the first to serve two consecutive terms. He tells us about his adventures as Chief and some of patches that have meant a lot to him throughout his time in scouting.

John Pannel tells us all about the “Chang” fakes and shares tips on how to avoid being misled by them.

Also, Tim talks with Ben about a short Brotherhood promotional film called iSash which can be found on YouTube.
Chris brings us a Wiki Tip, Brandon keeps us up to date on TORs and Beep Beep reviews OASections.com.

Jul 10, 201901:06:21
22 - Deja vu all over again!

22 - Deja vu all over again!

What a week at ClothTalk central! Nonetheless, Tim and Ben manage to bring you one of their most captivating interviews yet—with collector Kirk Doan (www.kirkdoan.com). Do you know where the Kansas City, Chiefs got their name? Have you ever heard of Cotton Farming Merit Badge? Do you know who has the largest privately held Scouting Collection in existence? Ever heard of the Tribe of Mic-O-Say? There have also been a lot of other Scouting honor societies over the years. Also, Kirk shares with us that he uses Inland Marine Collectibles insurance. Have you ever thought of insuring your collection?

Jul 10, 201901:01:23
21 - The Merits of Scouting
Jul 10, 201938:17
20 - In One Accord

20 - In One Accord

From everyone at the Scout History Project, best wishes for a happy and healthy NEW YEAR!

This episode is brought to you at 60 miles per hour! We are actually all in the same place to record this week! Chris brings us a great wiki tip and Ben remands us about the e-newsletter. Our feature guest, Brandon Ellis, interviews young and old at his Tsoiotsi Tsogalii Lodge 70 Fall fellowship. Find out about the collection that was obtained by trading an iPod! Trading an iPod for patches?? …Only at Jambo.

Jul 10, 201925:48
19 - Mitch Reis

19 - Mitch Reis

This show Mitch Reis (mitchreis.com) is our guest and reveals all about the BSA uniform from the earliest right up to the modern cargo pants! Do you know who designed todays uniform? Mitch does and tell us all about it! Fake uniforms? What? Join us for a great chat with Mitch.

Jul 10, 201901:04:34
18 - Cherokee Fifty

18 - Cherokee Fifty

Ben rides a single-speed bike up an Alabama hill and drives a big truck twenty-two hours to celebrate Thanksgiving!!

This episode Tim, Ben and Chris visit with Julian Simmons an old friend and long-time member of Cherokee Lodge Fifty. (Now merged into Coosa.) Julian tells us about this WAB featured Lodge’s patch issues, fakes and gives us a glimpse of why they were always such a challenging Lodge to collect.

Jul 10, 201953:45
17 - One Night Wonder

17 - One Night Wonder

Our feature this week: Tim And Ben chat with Brandon Ellis from Lodge 70 Tsoiotsi Tsogalii who runs down the patch history of his great lodge—and manages to share a few tales of his own along the way.

Also this episode, Tim, Ben and Chris talk about the Scout History Wiki. Chris leads Tim through the process of creating his Wiki account. You can create one too—its actually quite simple.

Jul 10, 201901:03:13
16 - New York!

16 - New York!

This week, Ben and Tim speak to Bill Mulrenin, also known as: the New york OA trader. We talk about scouting in the New York area as well as a few stand-out patches from the region. Visit Bill at NYOATrader.Com

In the North East? Be sure to visit the 11th annual Trade-O-Ree at Camp Alpine. See ShuShuGah.org for details.

Check Out John Pannell’s new blog at: blog.OAImages.com

Also: Tim, Ben and Chris talk about the Scout History Wiki.

Jul 10, 201944:28
15 - Birds of a Feather

15 - Birds of a Feather

This episode, Tim and Ben talk to Terry Grove about the history of the Eagle Scout award, badges, and accompanying items awarded to Eagle Scouts?and his book on the subject. Terry also has a new book coming out this december about the early years of the Order of the Arrow. Terry is truly and expert in the History of The Eagle award and the History of the Order. We’re honored to have him as a guest.

Jul 10, 201947:34
14 - Power Source

14 - Power Source

This week Ben and Tim chat with Daniel Hodge—author of the ClothTalk theme song—as he spends his summer in Alaska. We pick his brain about the ‘Land of the Midnight Sun’ and how Scouting and trading has helped him be successful in his life. Also, sit in on our discussion on non-traditional outlets for scouting and hear the history of the Order of the Arrow Legend Song composed by Sam Fairchild.

Jul 10, 201930:23
13 - Talking about patches, right?

13 - Talking about patches, right?

Tim, Ben and Matt are scattered all over the again and talk to many Scouts from all over the country. Tune in for our most diverse episode yet.

  • Ever wonder where they keep that National Order of the Arrow Chief’s bonnet when its not on stage at NOAC? 2006 National Chief, Sean Murray, knows and tells us. 
  • We also spoke with Ed Bonsford about his National Jamboree Collection. In 1977 Ed traded chunks of coal for a 1964 National Jamboree Neckerchief! 
  • Other guests include: Mike Evans, a collector of woven and Black Camp patches; John Pannell webmaster of www.oaimages.com; Michael Silva, a part of the new collecting generation; Jason Spangler of www.patchblanquet.com; and many more!
Jul 10, 201945:00
12 - Patches? Wait, wait: "Badges"
Jul 10, 201925:47
11 - You will never, ever get this patch.

11 - You will never, ever get this patch.

This show Tim and Ben speak with Dr. Jeff Morley. Jeff is one of the premier Scouting collecting experts in world. Jeff is a national editor for the Blue Book and, along with Bill Topkis, helped publish the First Flaps Book.

Find out what patches Jeff missed along the way and which one he flew across the USA to pick up. Yes even the top trader has passed up a few deals in his life.

Jul 10, 201954:55
10 - Live from Lansing

10 - Live from Lansing

Its great to be back from the Trade-O-Ree and NOAC. We meet so many people and had such a great time! Thanks to everyone that stopped by the table or said hello.

This week, Ben and Tim interview Chuck Fisk–an expert on Scouting literature and Scout books. In addition to many wonderful stories, Chuck shared with us parts of his book:

Collecting Scouting Literature-A Collector’s Guide to Boy Scout Fiction and Non-Fiction
by Chuck Fisk and Doug Bearce, 2nd edition published in 1990

This book has a complete listing of each printing of Boy Scout, Scout Master, and Patrol Leader Handbooks. Also included are sections of the book of Baden-Powell, Beard, Seton as well as a large section of fiction about the scouting movement. There is a check list of cubbing literature, senior scouting, scouting histories, scout diaries, scout related comics, etc, etc.

Jul 10, 201939:44
9 - Pre-NOAC

9 - Pre-NOAC

Are you ready for NOAC 2006 at Michigan State University? You’ve got less than 2 weeks left! This week, we bring Chris Jensen from Streamwood.net–the man behind the “Big Monster Trade-o-ree” this year in Lansing before NOAC.

For more information on the Trade-o-ree, check out Chris’s page with all the details. It’s not too late to go. Come on, bring your contingent–join the fun!

Don’t forget:
Thursday July 27th at 8pm: We’ll be doing a live recording at the Trade-o-ree

Also, throughout the TOR, stop by the ClothTalk table and say hello.

Jul 10, 201935:52
8 - Western Region

8 - Western Region

This episode Ben and Tim explore patches and history of the Western Region with Todd Hatfield. Do you know a Camp that just dissapeared? Todd shares the Legend of Camp Spirit Lake. He also does a great job of fielding Ben’s request for “Western Region for Dummies.” Do you know the difference between a CS, a CP, a CSP and Red and White? Todd does, and he explains it all. He also shares some of the toughest OA flaps from Western region.

Jul 10, 201947:17
7 - Neckerchiefs

7 - Neckerchiefs

This week Ben and Tim review veiwer mail.
– Do you know what the first two piece OA issue was?
– Spoof merit Badges. Earn enough and get your turkey award.
– Who really issued the Hooters spoof? Do you know? Was it you?

Read “Scouting With a Neckerchief”
BY COMMODORE W. E. Longfellow at:
www.pinetreeweb.com/neckerchief.htm

Our guest, Dr. James Flatt shares his extensive neckerchief collection. As one of the oldest parts of the Scout uniform, neckerchiefs are often hard to find and identify. However, almost lodges have had a Neckerchief. What does yours look like?

– When was the last time you wore a neckerchief?
– Do you remember those Scout shirts without collars?

You may find a neckerchief with the lodge flap or lodge patch sewn in it. Why? It may very well be a conference contingent neckerchief–not just something a Scouts mom made!

Jul 10, 201943:12
6 - Spoofs

6 - Spoofs

This episode Ben and Tim talk to Todd Hatfield, the Western Region editor of the ISCA (www.ScoutTrader.org) and the editor of the NorthWest Trader News Letter. Todd has written a book on Spoofs called “The Spoof Pages” covering many of the fun and exciting patches that are a part of our hobby. Do you have the Teenage mutant Scout Turtles in your collection?

Jul 10, 201935:51
5 - eBay
Jul 10, 201936:34
4 - On the Road
Jul 10, 201937:39
3 - NOAC

3 - NOAC

Tim Hall and Ben Killen host episode 3 to discuss NOAC, the National Order of the Arrow Conference.

Dr. James Flatt joins us with some outstanding NOAC items, including the very first national collectable item, a nail file and comb case from the 1926 National Meeting.

For the new collectors, we discuss the types of edges on patches.

We have a voice recording of Goodman and Edson discussing the first lodge flap.

Other items:
– 1948 National Bulletin from Indiana Unversity considered the first of the modern NOACs.
– 1948 Lodge 4 delegate patch
– 1969 Host Lodge NOAC neckerchief
– NOAC Brotherhood Band and Chorus
– Ken Castille, from Louisiana, sent in an image of a patch from Camp Chenier–a segregated camp from his area.

Jul 10, 201935:16
2 - Camp Patches

2 - Camp Patches

Tim Hall and Ben Killen talk with Dr. James Flatt about classifying various types of patches and discuss a variety of early camp patches.

Jul 10, 201928:37
1 - Our first episode!

1 - Our first episode!

Tim and Ben talk with Dr. James Flatt about Conclave, trade-o-rees, eBay, the 1950 National Jamboree Service Corps, and more!  


Jul 10, 201931:25
0 - Preview Episode

0 - Preview Episode

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