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Collectability Podcast

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Conversations with engaging and knowledgeable experts on Patek Philippe and the world of watches.
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Smithsonian Curator Carlene Stephens discusses quartz watches and much more
This is one of the most wide-ranging conversations we have ever had on a Collectability Podcast. Topics covered range from Charles Darwin, Alexander Graham Bell, Einstein and Lindbergh to the development of quartz technology and the importance of electronic clocks in horological history. Even elephants get discussed in relation to collecting watches! Carlene E. Stephens is a Curator at the Division of Work and Industry in the Smithsonian's National Museum of American History. Her specialities are broad as she oversees the museum's historical clocks and watches, robots and automatons, and acoustic sound recording technologies. She is the author of "On Time: How Americans Learned to Live by the Clock", and other publications relating to the cultural history of timekeeping, and is a leading expert on quartz technology. Carlene's appreciation for quartz timekeeping dates back to the mid 1980s when she realized that the museum did not own a single electronic watch in its' collection.  Her quest to learn more about quartz timekeeping opened a huge world of discovery as she needed to study the components of quartz technology -- the development of batteries, integrated circuits, displays such as LED, LCD -- the list went on. Her research led to the fact that quartz technology started back in the 1920s when it was tied with communication, particularly in the U.S.A. with companies such as Bell Labs and AT&T. Appreciating that quartz is a very under-studied part of the horological story-line, Carlene has been writing a book in the hope to address this under-reported, but essential part of history. As Collectability discovered with our exhibition of Patek Philippe electronic clocks, the so-called Quartz Crisis is an often mis-understood period of time.  In this fascinating and engaging conversation, John Reardon and Carlene Stephens dive deep into the meaning of time, the history of quartz and electronic clock development -- and much, much more. For further information, please see this article on Patek Philippe electronic clocks.  Learn more about Collectability on our website: Follow us on Instagram for regular updates:   Listen, like and subscribe to the podcast on your favorite platform: Learn more about LeapSecond: Learn more about the Hafele-Keating experiment to prove Einstein's theory of relativity in this video.
September 29, 2022
Auction legend Osvaldo Patrizzi discusses the formative days of modern watch collecting
Within the watch auction world, there is no one else who can match Osvaldo’s contribution to and influence on the watch collecting world. In fact, it’s fair to say that Osvaldo Patrizzi really pioneered watch collecting and the auction market, significantly contributing to today’s demand for luxury watches. In 1974, Osvaldo Patrizzi founded Antiquorum and built it into the world’s leading auction house for fine timepieces and an important source for watch collectors. Antiquorum has achieved countless world records in sales of watches, clocks, and other timekeeping devices at auction.  He was also an internet pioneer and Antiquorum was the first auction house to take its watch auctions online. Always ahead of the curve, Antiquorum opened an office in Hong Kong in 1979, many years before any other international auction house opened in Asia. Osvaldo also pioneered the concept of a thematic auction starting in 1989 with one of the most legendary watch auctions, “The Art of Patek Philippe” in which over 300 timepieces were auctioned including a then world record for the most complicated timepiece ever made, the Calibre 89 which sold for $3.2 million, a truly unprecedented sum in the 1980s. Not only is Osvaldo Patrizzi a great scholar of watchmaking and has authored many books on the subject, but he also gathered and nurtured some of the greatest watch experts. In 2000, he was named to be among the 20 most influential people in the field of horology in the 20th century. In this interview with John Reardon, Osvaldo Patrizzi discusses his long career in the watch industry and his many innovations within the auction and collecting world.
July 31, 2022
Eric Ku, Justin Gruenberg and Sam Hines discuss Loupe This and the future of the watch market
John Reardon interviews the three principles of Loupe This, the new online auction platform that has already broken a world record for the sale of a 1967 Cartier Crash ($1.65 million), and is changing the way we buy vintage watches. Eric Ku, Justin Gruenberg and Sam Hines discuss their plans for Loupe This and share their candid opinions on the marketplace during these turbulent times, plus they give their predictions for future trends in watch collecting.  Recently, in what John Reardon describes as a "nuclear announcement", Sam Hines joined Loupe This responsible for growing the business in Asia as well as globally. The watch world is buzzing with questions about why Sam Hines left the venerable, traditional auction world as global head of watches at Sotheby's to join a technologically-driven online auction. Sam graciously answers all the questions and shares some amazing -- and humorous stories about his past, present and future in the watch world. Justin Gruenberg rarely gives interviews and his views on collecting and the watch market are both fascinating and insightful. Described as "the man that controls the marketplace", Justin brought his first collectable watch at auction, a Patek Philippe chronograph for $100,000, at the age of fifteen. Today he focuses on building his family business and is constantly praised by all who work with him for his integrity, honesty and intelligence. Eric Ku is one of the world's leading authorities on vintage Rolex and has been called a Super Dealer by Hodinkee. Referred to as "a mogul of the watch world", Eric owns several important watch businesses including 10 Past Ten, the Vintage Rolex Forum (VRF) and LA Watchworks. He is also on the board of the Horological Society of New York and cares deeply about the future training of watchmakers. His opinions on the watch industry are highly regarded and Collectability is honored that he and his Loupe This partners Justin Gruenberg and Sam Hines gave such a thoughtful and informative interview in this podcast.
June 30, 2022
World class artist and watch enameler Anita Porchet
World class artist and enameler, Anita Porchet produces some of the most sought-after, decorated timepieces in the world. In this exclusive interview with Carlos Torres, Anita speaks candidly and eloquently about her craft and the future of the art of enameling in the watch world. We learn about the challenge of creating a miniature work of art on the tiny surface of a pocket watch or watch dial. Anita speaks openly about how as an artist she is constantly learning, researching, and creating, and how she deals with the pressure of a mistake that can ruin months of intense work. We also learn about her work for Patek Philippe and why she believes that “this house has the best enamel heritage in the world.” She credits Philippe Stern’s for not thinking only of “short term profitability” and how he continued to support enamelers and their work during many years when there was no demand. She quotes him as saying, “I can’t deny work to these enamelers just because I’m not selling it. One day there might be a comeback and the know-how will be lost." Philippe Stern has also enabled Anita to share her craft with others, helping her expand her workshop to host pupils. Most extraordinarily, he left Anita free to work for other houses so that she could continue to enhance her knowledge and skills, free to express herself and remain independent. Born in La Chaux-de-Fonds, Switzerland, Anita was only 12 years old when her godfather introduced her to the century’s old art of miniature enameling. In 1984, she obtained her diploma from the School of Applied arts and then went to study fine arts in Lausanne, requesting to study enameling and engraving in her final year. She was literally learning a trade at the brink of extinction. Today, the epicenter of her world is a jeweler’s work bench at her home atelier, a gift for her 20th birthday. It is a great honor for Collectability to bring you this interview with Anita Porchet. Anita speaks in French and her voice is translated into English for the purpose of this podcast.
May 31, 2022
Evelyne Genta, wife of watch design legend Gérald Genta discusses his legacy with John Reardon
Two of the most popular watches, the Nautilus and the Royal Oak were designed by one man, Gérald Genta. In this fascinating conversation with his wife, Evelyne Genta, John Reardon discovers how their partnership resulted in some of the most important watch designs in modern watchmaking history. Equally impressive is her own distinguished career. Since 2011, Her Excellency Madame Evelyne Genta has held the prestigious position as The Ambassador, Monaco embassy to United Kingdom. Born in Monaco, she was educated in London and has lived there for the past 15 years.  Between 1983 and 1999, Evelyne and her husband ran the watch brand Gérald Genta. During this exciting and extremely innovative period, Evelyne managed two factories in Switzerland with 250 employees while developing new markets in Asia, Europe and the Middle East. This spring, Sotheby’s is auctioning off a selection of Gérald Genta’s paintings, including his original 1970 painting of the Audemars Piguet Royal Oak and his 1976 painting of the Patek Philippe Nautilus. In total, 100 pieces, personally selected by Madame Genta and her daughter Alexia from his treasure trove of over 3,200 works will be sold. Importantly, Sotheby’s is selling each painting with an NFT which protects authentication and ownership. The sale is in honor of the 10th anniversary of the death of Gérald Genta and proceeds of the sale will go to the Gérald Genta Heritage Association of which Evelyne Genta is President and Chairperson. Selecting which artworks to auction was a monumental task. Gérald Genta’s prolific design portfolio includes designs for all the great watchmakers: in addition to his iconic Royal Oak for Audemars Piguet and the Nautilus for Patek Philippe, he designed the SAS Polarouter for Universal Genève at the age of 23, The Constellation for Omega in 1959, The Ingenieur for IWC in 1976 and countless others for watchmakers such as Piaget, Cartier, Corum, Hermès to name but a few. In this Collectability Podcast, we learn how the pieces were selected for auction and hear extraordinary stories about the legend himself and the exciting life Gérald and Evelyne had during their 33 years of marriage. For more information on Sotheby's auction of Gérald Genta's work please go to
April 29, 2022
Ryan Chong talks about Bezel and his career in watches
Ryan Chong's career in the watch industry is relatively short, but he is already making a mark having recently been listed on Watchonista's 30 under 30(ish) as one of the brightest and youngest breaking down barriers and reinventing the industry for the better. Having worked in the watch departments of both Christie's and Sotheby's, Ryan is well placed to launch one of the most exciting new platforms in the watch world: Bezel. John Reardon enjoys an informative and fun conversation with his former colleague at Christie's, and learns how Bezel will change the way we buy watches.
March 29, 2022
Nathalie Marielloni Deputy Director of the International Watchmaking Museum (MIH)
Nathalie Marielloni has had an extraordinary career in horology. It has taken her to some of the most important watchmaking related museums in the world: the Patek Philippe Museum, Museum of Art and History Geneva and the International Watchmaking Museum (MIH) in La Chaux-de-Fonds. Her career is a clear reflection of where her passion lies as she has mastered the demanding Swiss watchmaking school WOSTEP, is a GIA Graduate Gemologist, and has even been awarded the title of Freeman of the Worshipful Company of Clockmakers following the successful sale of the George Daniels collection which she curated during her time at Sotheby's, London. As charming as she is accomplished, her conversation with Carlos Torres offers an insight into how a relatively short career so far has garnered a fascinating resume that would be hard to match in the watchmaking world. 
February 28, 2022
From Crypto to Gondolo -- John Reardon interviews Ryan Zurrer
In our most diverse interview yet, Collectability's John Reardon and venture investor Ryan Zurrer explore the intersection of art, NFTs, watch collecting and saving the world. Last year, Ryan Zurrer garnered international media attention when he paid $29 million for Beeple's kinetic video sculpture, Human One. Here he explains why and the future importance of NFTs in every aspect of our lives, as well as the art and watch industries. Ryan Zurrer's captivating career has spanned future technologies from renewable energy to crypto, yet he is also a distinguished collector of vintage Patek Philippe watches, particularly Gondolo pocket watches and early wristwatches. Zurrer explains why he collects from both the past and the future, and his assertion that Patek Philippe vintage watches are a good store of value. He also explains why he believes that mental health is the biggest problem on the planet and why he has invested in psychedelic therapy in a mission to provide a tool that can help many people. #patekphilippe #vintagepatek #chronometrogondolo #NFT #Technologist #cryptocurrency #ryanzurrer #beeple #humanone #digitalart #psychodelics
January 30, 2022
Interview with Christian Lass, independent watchmaker and former Master watchmaker at the Patek Philippe Museum
Carlos Torres interviews independent Danish watchmaker Christian Lass who spent a decade as Master watchmaker at the Patek Philippe Museum, Geneva. Inspired to become a watchmaker by reading 'Watchmaking' by George Daniels, Lass apprenticed with Søren Anderson after watchmaking school, and then Vianney Halter who taught him how to make a watch from scratch. It was through his friend Philippe Dufour that he heard about a rare opening at the Patek Philippe Museum in Geneva. During his time with Patek Philippe, he had the privilege to work on legendary timepieces such as the ref. 2499 and the Graves Supercomplication. After returning to his native Denmark, Christian Lass made his dream come true and started his own watchmaking company.
December 30, 2021
Interview with vintage watch expert, dealer and former auction specialist Eric Wind
Discover the inner workings of the watch auction industry with this unedited and unforgettable discussion between John Reardon and Eric Wind who recall the ups and downs of their own experience working at auction houses and offer listeners an inside peek behind the rostrum.
November 29, 2021
Interview with Davide Parmegiani the super dealer of vintage watches
Known within collecting circles as 'The Big Boss', Davide Parmegiani has brought and sold the most important and valuable Patek Philippe watches since he became a dealer in the 1980s. To put this into perspective, each one of the known Patek Philippe steel ref. 1518 watches has been through his hands! In 2019, his career expanded further when he became co-chair of Monaco Legend Auctions. In this candid interview, John Reardon discusses the past, present and future of collecting watches.
October 29, 2021
Interview with Patekholic founder Jasem Al Zeraei
Jasem runs the number one Patek Philippe fan page on Instagram which he founded in 2015. Known as brutally honest, fearless and occasionally controversial, Jasem has established himself as a global opinion-shaper, market-predictor and Patek-obsessed collector. In addition to @patekaholic, Jasem has launched @patekonomics and in his quest to share his passion for all things Patek Philippe, and occasionally other fine watches. In this conversation with John Reardon, Jasem is given free-range to candidly discuss his feelings on the current Patek Philippe market, and where he sees the collectors market developing in the future.
September 29, 2021
Interview with René Beyer the eighth generation of Beyer Chronometrie, the oldest watch retailer in the world.
Beyer Chronometrie holds the unique position as Patek Philippe's longest retailer relationship in the world having sold its watches since the 1840s. René Beyer has personally worked with four generations of the Stern family who owns Patek Philippe, and regards the current president, Thierry Stern as a brother. In this interview with Carlos Torres, René discusses his family's unique relationship with Patek Philippe, and how Beyer has developed its own world class museum and restoration and repair center.
August 31, 2021
Interview with legendary watch expert and auctioneer Aurel Bacs
Widely recognized as a market maker and one of the most influential leaders in the watch industry, Aurel Bacs is Senior Consultant at Phillips in Association with Bacs & Russo. In a candid and engaging conversation with John Reardon, Aurel discusses his acclaimed career at the leading auction houses and his predictions for the future of vintage Patek Philippe watches.
July 30, 2021
Interview with world class collector and influencer Roni Madhvani
Dubbed ‘The Watch Hunter of Africa’ Roni Madhvani is a collector that sets the bar high for all others. Through his social media channels, Roni is inspiring a new generation of collectors to buy what they love rather than what they are told to buy. In this Collectability Podcast, Roni speaks with Carlos Torres and explains how he started collecting and how his passion for watches, especially Patek Philippe, has developed over the past 30 years.
July 01, 2021
Interview with Hodinkee founder Ben Clymer
Over the past ten years, it would be hard to identify another person who has had as much influence over the the digital and social media evolution of the watch industry as Ben Clymer. In this Collectability Podcast, Ben speaks openly with John Reardon about how he created Hodinkee from his desire to learn as much as possible about watches, to his opinions on Patek Philippe and its position in the industry today.
May 26, 2021
Interview with leading horological expert and pioneer Dr Helmut Crott
Dr Helmut Crott is one of the few people in the world who can look through the Patek Philippe Museum catalog and point to the pieces he once owned or sold. For over fifty years, he has been a leading figure in the watch world. In the 1970s, he launched one of the first auction houses specializing in timepieces. By the 1990s, he had compiled one of the most important data bases on Patek Philippe, and remains today the expert that auction houses and dealers contact for help and advice. He has also written the definitive book on dials, and owned the historic watchmaker Urban Jürgensen. In this episode, Carlos Torres speaks with Dr Crott about his extraordinary life and important contribution to the watch industry. 
April 30, 2021
Interview with Patek Philippe expert John Reardon
In this inaugural episode of the Collectability Podcast, Collectability founder John Reardon talks with Carlos Torres about his passion for Patek Philippe and how to collect vintage timepieces.
April 01, 2021