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Come Alive! The Living Spirit-fully! Guide to Thriving

Come Alive! The Living Spirit-fully! Guide to Thriving

By Paul Galloro and Catherine Stilo
The power to bring about change on a grand scale lies within each of us. By shifting our inner world, we change our outer world. A small step by each one of us moves the needle on a Universal level.

Join Paul Galloro and Catherine Stilo as they explore the 12 permaculture principles as accessible ways to living a joyful life.

Through stories, discussion and a little “OM-work”, they share their passion for wellness and Regenerative Living.

Remember, we're meant to thrive ... how will you Come Alive!?

Join the conversation in The Living Spirit-fully! Collective Facebook Group.
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Season 1 Wrap-up
Thrivers! In this Wrap-Up Episode, we reflect back on Season 1 and what we set out to do. We recap our funniest moments, our biggest a-has, and what challenged us most. There’s also a sneak peek of what’s to come … workshops, retreats, online programs, and Season 2! Stay connected. Join the conversation in The Living Spirit-fully! Collective Facebook Group. Connect with Paul: Website | Instagram Connect with Catherine: Website | Facebook Email us at comealivepodcast@gmail.com! Show Outline: 0:00 Intro 0:49 ‘OM’-Work Check-In 7:17 Zen Tale 9:22 Wrap-Up From Origins to Now 16:47 Looping it back to our story 18:55 Recap of Principles 25:01 Favourite Moments - funniest, biggest a-ha, most challenging 31:55 Where are we going from here...workshops, retreats, online, Season 2 34:17 Invitation to interact 34:39 Outro & Music
35:55
August 13, 2021
A Conversation with Maureen "Mo" Hagan [Bonus Episode]
This Special Bonus Episode is a cherry on top of an amazing Season 1! In Episode 12, we had the honour and the joy of connecting with Mo Hagan, Global Fitness Ambassador and COO of canfitpro. Mo has been living Principle 12: Creatively Use & Respond to Change over the last 18 months. With the unprecedented events that took place in March 2020, Mo led the way in transforming canfitpro from a major live in-person event to an online conference in 3 months! Our conversation was so profound, empowering, and inspiring we wanted to share the full UNCUT version with everyone. For more information, and to register for the 2021 Global Conference and Trade Show, visit canfitpro2021.org and use code PRES62 for your chance to win an amazing prize pack! Join the conversation in The Living Spirit-fully! Collective Facebook Group. Connect with Paul: Website | Instagram Connect with Catherine: Website | Facebook Email us at comealivepodcast@gmail.com! Show Outline: 0:00 Intro 1:13 canfitpro Global Conference & Trade Show Aug 13/14 1:43 DANCE PARTY 2:11 Welcome Mo! 3:58 Creatively Use & Respond to Change - taking canfitpro online 6:58 The jazzed up feel of the events themselves 9:48 Letting go of the story and learning to trust in change 15:18 Thriving in change on those days when we just don’t want to change 18:00 Redefining the vision for the fitness industry 21:09 Looping it to the Sufi Tale 31:43 Exciting things this month: canfitpro Aug 13/14, Women Who Influence Aug 12 38:50 Invitation to join the conversation, Bonus Wrap Up Episode 39:17 Outro & Music Additional Links & Further Exploration: canfitpro2021.org (use code PRES62 when registering!) Women Who Influence Mo Hagan Dido - Look No Further (Short Film)
40:42
August 6, 2021
Creatively Use & Respond to Change
Thrivers! In this episode, we discuss Permaculture Principle #12: Creatively Use & Respond to Change -- WOW! -- a fitting principle for the last "official" episode of Season 1. In this rich and challenging dialogue, we explore the dynamic and ever-changing nature of all things. Our discussion reveals how the art of surrender can serve to let go of resistance, release old stories and limiting beliefs, and move forward in ways that we never could have imagined, allowing us “...to become more than we ever dreamed we could be”. Special thank you to canfitpro for sponsoring our episode, and to Maureen Hagan, Global Fitness Ambassador and COO of canfitpro, for our empowering and inspiring conversation. Check out Women Who Influence, a full-day online event on Thursday, August 12, and the entire canfitpro 2021 Online Conference and Trade Show, Aug 13 and 14. Keep exploring! Follow the links in the show notes for more inspiration and insight! Join the conversation in The Living Spirit-fully! Collective Facebook Group. Connect with Paul: Website | Instagram Connect with Catherine: Website | Facebook Email us at comealivepodcast@gmail.com! Show Outline: 0:00 Intro 1:59 ‘OM’-work Check-In Episode 11 10:11 Sufi Tale 12:08 Creatively Use & Respond to Change explained 17:18 Inspired action 20:00 Back to the story 22:49 BREAK - A Conversation with Maureen Hagan, global fitness ambassador and COO canfitpro 29:24 Principle in our lives...Ayurveda, seasons, listening to our bodies, letting go 41:09 Taoist Tale 57:27 ‘OM’-Work 59:46 Outro & Music Additional Links & Further Exploration: canfitpro2021.org (use code PRES62 when registering!) Women Who Influence Mo Hagan Claudia Micco (Paul’s Personal Trainer) Kamana Naturalist Program Eat Taste Heal (Ayurveda) 4 False Beliefs That Society is Built On - Dr. Bruce Lipton
01:01:05
July 30, 2021
Use The Edges & Value The Margins
Thrivers! In this episode, we explore Permaculture Principle #11: Use the Edges & Value the Margins. We discuss the edges, the margins, the transitions, where things intersect as hidden gems. These areas are rich with life! Join us in expanding our understanding of transitions and their magic in yoga, life, the shared field and all aspects of life. Join the conversation in The Living Spirit-fully! Collective Facebook Group. Connect with Paul: Website | Instagram Connect with Catherine: Website | Facebook Email us at comealivepodcast@gmail.com! Show Outline: 0:00  Intro 3:50   ‘OM’-Work Check-In from Episode 10 8:55   Zen Tale 10:20 Use the Edges Definition 12:37 The Principle in Action 19:38 Personal Level examples 20:48 Inspired Action 21:48 Back to the Story 24:37 BREAK 24:48 How it shows up in our lives, flowing through transitions in yoga, life, the shared field etc… 44:08 Invitation to join the conversation 44:30 ‘OM’-work 46:55 Outro & Music
48:22
July 16, 2021
A Conversation with Lawrence Biscontini [Bonus Episode]
In Episode 10, Paul caught up with Lawerence Biscontini to discuss their upcoming panel discussion at the canfitpro 2021 Global Conference and Trade Show. A few chuckles and a lot of insight later, we couldn’t fit it all into our break, so here is the full UNCUT version for you to enjoy. For more information and to register for the canfitpro conference, visit canfitpro2021.org and use code PRES62 for your chance to with an amazing prize pack! Lawrence Biscontini: Website Facebook Instagram Join the conversation in The Living Spirit-fully! Collective Facebook Group. Connect with Paul: Website | Instagram Connect with Catherine: Website | Facebook Email us at comealivepodcast@gmail.com!
21:03
July 9, 2021
Use & Value Diversity
Thrivers! In this episode, we explore Permaculture Principle #10: Use & Value Diversity, and inspire ourselves to “spice up our lives” with variety in and out of the garden. We encourage diversity in the energy we bring to our lives. When we get out of our “Samskaras” or grooves/ruts in the mind and invite in diverse talents and strengths, we open our minds and hearts to new ideas, viewpoints, and opinions to see just how vibrant the world can be! Special thank you to canfitpro for sponsoring our episode, and Lawrence Biscontini for the delicious conversation! Check out the Pride & Celebration in the Fitness Industry panel discussion at the canfitpro 2021 Virtual Conference and Trade Show, Aug 13 and 14. Keep exploring! Follow the links in the show notes for more inspiration and self-discovery! Join the conversation in The Living Spirit-fully! Collective Facebook Group. Connect with Paul: Website | Instagram Connect with Catherine: Website | Facebook Email us at comealivepodcast@gmail.com! Show Outline: 0:00 canfitpro 2021 Virtual Conference Advertisement 0:24 Opening 1:11 ‘OM’-Work Check in Episode #9 Small, Slow Solutions 6:11 Zen Tale 7:52 Use & Value Diversity Defined 9:54 Principle in Action 15:40 Inspired Action 18:14 BREAK - Lawrence Biscontini - Panel Pride & Celebration in the Fitness Industry, canfitpro 2021 Virtual Conference 23:41 How Principle #10 shows up in our lives...diets, movement, livelihoods, building teams, and more! 38:46 Looping it back to the Zen Tale 39:07 Invitation to join the conversation 39:25 ‘OM’-Work for this episode 41:02 Outro & Music Additional Links & Further Exploration: canfitpro2021.org Lawrence Biscontini: Website Facebook Instagram Edward de Bono - 6 Thinking Hats Myers-Briggs 16 Personalities
42:26
July 2, 2021
Small, Slow Solutions
Thrivers! We are feeling fine with Permaculture Principle #9: Small, Slow Solutions. In this episode we discuss taking the “next best step”, making incremental change in the direction you want to go, keeping things to a manageable scale. Small, slow solutions encompasses supporting the local community — farmer’s markets and small businesses. In the second half of the show, we have several “vulnerability moments” as we both share personal stories about times in our lives where the solutions may not have been so small or slow. Join the conversation in The Living Spirit-fully! Collective Facebook Group. Connect with Paul: Website | Instagram Connect with Catherine: Website | Facebook Email us at comealivepodcast@gmail.com! Show Outline: 0:00 Opening 1:03 ‘OM’-work check-in 7:55 Zen Tale 9:15 Definition & Meaning of Principle 10:33 Principle in Action Personally 12:37 Principle in Action on a Grand Scale 16:04 Inspired action 17:37 Looping it back to the story… 18:38 BREAK 18:48 How it looks in our lives, vulnerability moments when things weren’t so small or slow 43:10 Invitation to join the conversation 43:40 ‘OM’-work 46:46 “DANCE PARTY”...& Outro...
48:09
June 18, 2021
Integrate Rather Than Segregate
Thrivers! Here we are with Permaculture Principle #8: Integrate Rather Than Segregate. In this episode, we look at the relationships between things and see the relationships are as important as the things themselves. We examine how we work in relationships and influence the whole. In a few vulnerable moments, we talk labels, shadow, and our journeys of integrating all aspects of the self into the self. Keep exploring! We’ve added resource links in the show notes. Join the conversation in The Living Spirit-fully! Collective Facebook Group. Connect with Paul: Website | Instagram Connect with Catherine: Website | Facebook Email us at comealivepodcast@gmail.com! Show Outline: 0:00 Opening 0:47 ‘OM’-work check-in 6:12 Zen Tale 7:08 Meaning of Principle 11:55 Principle in Action 15:25 As individuals… 21:03 Looping it back to the story… 22:45 BREAK 24:50 How it looks in our lives, labels, shadows etc.. 43:47 Invitation to join the conversation 44:30 ‘OM’-Work 47:30 Outro Additional Links & Further Exploration: Joel Salatin - There's A Different Way to Farm Soul - Disney Movie Inside Out - Disney Movie
48:57
June 4, 2021
Design from Pattern to Details
Thrivers! We discuss Permaculture Principle #7: Design from Pattern to Details. “Look at the big picture” as it applies to growing both in the garden and in life! We go deep talking about “the pattern is the pattern” in our lives and in our bodies, and how our pattern interacts with the Great Pattern. Keep exploring! We’ve added resource links in the show notes. Join the conversation in The Living Spirit-fully! Collective Facebook Group. Connect with Paul: Website | Instagram Connect with Catherine: Website | Facebook Email us at comealivepodcast@gmail.com! Show Outline: 0:00 Opening 0:47 ‘OM’-work check-in 3:30 Zen Tale 4:55 Principle Defined 14:35 Inspired Action 15:40 DANCE PARTY! 16:16 How it shows up in our lives & bodies… 36:56 Back to the story 38:26 ‘OM’-Work 39:47 Outro Additional Links & Further Exploration: Louise Hay: You Can Heal Your Life Deb Shapiro: Your Body Speaks Your Mind
41:10
May 21, 2021
A Conversation with Yvonne Anderson [Bonus Episode]
In Episode 6 we caught up with Yvonne Anderson of Santevia Water Systems. Our chat went way beyond Produce No Waste with a deep dive into a discussion about good, clean, alkaline water. Yvonne embodies many of the Permaculture Principles and the conversation is refreshing. We were so inspired by Yvonne and all the good Santevia is doing in the world, we wanted to share the full conversation so you can “drink it in”. Enjoy! Santevia Water Systems Join the conversation in The Living Spirit-fully! Collective Facebook Group. Connect with Paul: Website | Instagram Connect with Catherine: Website | Facebook Email us at comealivepodcast@gmail.com
17:11
May 14, 2021
Produce No Waste
Thrivers! Not only is it a long one, we have to put a disclaimer on this episode because we talk s!@# in it … no really, we talk POOP!  Join us as we discuss Permaculture Principle #6: Produce No Waste and expand our view of waste from beyond simply “reduce, reuse, recycle” to see waste as an opportunity. “There’s gotta be a pony in here somewhere.” Listen to find out. Special thank you to Santevia Water Systems Inc. and Founder & CEO, Yvonne Anderson for our refreshing conversation and for sponsoring this episode! Please send them some love... Keep exploring! Resource links in the show notes provide hours of additional entertainment and inspiration! Join the conversation in The Living Spirit-fully! Collective Facebook Group. Connect with Paul: Website | Instagram Connect with Catherine: Website | Facebook Email us at comealivepodcast@gmail.com! Show Outline: 0:00 Opening 0:58 ‘OM’-work check-in 5:53 Story - “There’s Gotta Be a Pony in here Somewhere” 7:20 Principle Defined 8:23 Principle in Action 9:55 POOP! Here’s where we start talking s!@# 13:20 Zone design 15:30 Conscious consumption 19:08 Chickens 20:10 POOP! We talk s!@# again here 22:33 Water systems to replace bottled water 27:00 Down to Earth - Babe Zac Efron 29:21 Inspired Action 33:34 Back to Story 34:15 BREAK - Santevia Water Systems Inc. Yvonne Anderson 37:30 Applying it to our lives...bodies, yoga, thoughts, words etc 50:39 POOP - yup, we couldn’t finish without talking s!@# just one more time 52:46 ‘OM’-Work 55:14 Outro & Credits Additional Links & Further Exploration: Humanure Handbook Earthship Contained Sewage Treatment Contained Sewage Treatment in an Earthship Webinar - Earthship Biotecture 2020-2021 Earthships: New Solutions Chickens in Reducing Food Waste Austin Texas: What's the Value of Chickens in Reducing Food Waste JRE #1478: Joel Salatin: Ending Monocrops, Repurposing Waste & Feeding Millions Joel Salatin: Nature is a benevolent lover that wants to be caressed Bottled Water & Plastics Waste The World Counts Bottled Water Waste Facts Great Pacific Garbage Patch Alternative Solutions: Santevia Water Systems Santevia Water Systems
56:55
May 7, 2021
Use & Value Renewable Resources & Services
Join Paul and Catherine for a dive into Permaculture Principle #5: Use & Value Renewable Resources & Services. Offering ideas and examples on a grand scale, as well as simple things we can do as individuals, this episode invites us to tune in to more harmonious ways of being and to “let nature take its course”. Keep exploring! The additional resource links in the show notes expand on and bring to life the ideas discussed! Join the conversation in The Living Spirit-fully! Collective Facebook Group. Connect with Paul: Website | Instagram Connect with Catherine: Website | Facebook Email us at comealivepodcast@gmail.com! Show Outline: 0:00 Opening 0:46 ‘OM’-work check-in 4:37 Zen Tale – “The Moon Cannot Be Stolen” 5:40 Design Principle #5 Defined 6:23 Renewable Resources & Examples 13:16 Renewable Services & Examples 21:40 BREAK 23:30 How this shows up in our lives - the sun, sourdough, live food & more! Additional Links & Further Exploration: What the Bleep Do We Know? Movie Earthship Biotecture https://earthshipbiotecture.com/ http://www.garbagewarrior.com/ Joel Salatin JRE #1478: Joel Salatin: Ending Monocrops, Repurposing Waste & Feeding Millions JRE #1478: Joel Salatin: Can You Feed The Masses Without Factory Farming? Food Inc. Movie Dr. Zach Bush & Farmer’s Footprint https://zachbushmd.com/ https://farmersfootprint.us/ Paul Galloro's 40 Days of Stillness Meditation Program
42:50
April 23, 2021
Apply Self-Regulation & Accept Feedback
Join Paul and Catherine as they dive into Permaculture Principle #4: Apply Self-Regulation and Accept Feedback for what could pose to be a challenging and game-changing episode. They touch on the concepts of self-regulation using the wisdom of Ayurveda, of openness to different perspectives and worldviews, and of accepting personal responsibility for what we are creating in our own lives. Keep exploring! We’ve added many additional resources in the links below! Click here to join the conversation in The Living Spirit-fully! Collective Facebook Group. Connect with Paul: Website | Instagram Connect with Catherine: Website | Facebook Email us at comealivepodcast@gmail.com! Show Outline: 0:00 Opening 0:47 ‘OM’-work check-in 5:23 Zen Tale – “The Blind Men & The Elephant” 6:29 Design Principle #4 Explained with Examples 9:44 Gaia Theory 10:18 Small & Large Systems & Instability with example 12:44 Principle #4 in the Garden 15:00 Back to Zen Tale 17:40 BREAK 19:17 Diet Trends & Ayurveda 25:28 looping it back to Zen Tale 27:36 Biases & Perspectives in General 28:40 Intention vs Impact 31:30 Accepting responsibility 32:30 Paul’s Healing Journey 34:38 Cat’s Healing Journey 36:59 The problem with pointing fingers 37:50 Coming from a balanced place 39:40 Invitation to join the conversation 40:40 ‘OM’-Work 42:05 Outro & Credits Additional Links & Further Exploration: Medical Medium 200-hr Foundational Yoga Teacher Training with Catherine 21st Century Leadership
43:09
April 9, 2021
Obtain A Yield
Join Paul and Catherine as they dive into Permaculture Principle #3: Obtain A Yield, applying it to the foods we eat, the water we drink, and the ultimate yield of peace and joy! Click here to join the conversation in The Living Spirit-fully! Collective Facebook Group. Connect with Paul: Website | Instagram Connect with Catherine: Website | Facebook BEDTIME STORIES with Paul Galloro every Wednesday at 9pm Eastern Time, email me@paulgalloro.com for details or join The Living Spirit-fully! Collective Facebook Group. Email us at comealivepodcast@gmail.com! Show Outline: 0:00 Opening 0:49 ‘OM’-Work Check 2:49 Zen Tale – “The Drunken Boat Men” 3:57 How the story illustrates “Obtain a Yield” 4:38 What is a yield? 5:48 Positive Feedback Loops & Growing Soil 7:50 Mulching, Raking Leaves & Wildlife Habitats 9:42 Changing Our Thinking 13:20 Letting Things Wild 14:20 BREAK 15:58 Obtain A Yield in our lives 16:20 what are we putting in our bodies 18:18 Vibrations in water & our food 19:24 Medical Medium & foods that heal 21:15 Adjusting diet at Change of Seasons 22:19 Degenerative food 22:50 aligning foods to our own systems 23:43 the water that we drink, Dr. Zach Bush & the microbiome 26:12 what ideas have we been tied to 28:16 Yields of peace & joy 31:24 ‘OM’-Work 32:17 Invitation to Join the Conversation 32:53 Outro & Credits Additional Links & Further Exploration: Medical Medium - Anthony William Dr. Zach Bush, M.D. - GMOs, Glyphosate & Gut Health Nischala Joy Devi - The Secret Power of Yoga
34:14
March 26, 2021
Catch and Store Energy
Join Paul and Catherine as they dive into Permaculture Principle #2:, Catch & Store Energy, discussing how this principle manifests in building design, food production, soil regeneration and in our lives through the power of words! Keep exploring! We’ve added many additional resources in the links in the show notes! Click here to join the conversation in The Living Spirit-fully! Collective Facebook Group. Connect with Paul: Website | Instagram Connect with Catherine: Website | Facebook Email us at comealivepodcast@gmail.com! Show Outline: 0:00 Opening 0:30 Children’s Story “Frederick” by Leo Lionni 2:30 Catch & Store Energy from a Permaculture Perspective 3:00 Earthships & Architect Mike Reynolds 5:40 Energy Efficiency 7:09 Water Catchment 8:22 Perennial Plants & Gardens 10:12 Self-Seeding Plants 11:17 Soil as Energy Catchment 13:49 Natural Systems & Regenerative Agriculture 15:50 BREAK 18:00 Healthy Soil 21:10 Into The Garden of Our Lives 22:24 Self-Care Practices 24:02 Bringing Joy to Everyday Life 26:11 Accentuating Joy vs. Brings Me Joy 27:37 The Power of Words - Labels & Language 32:26 Nuances of Evocative Language 38:00 Linking Back to Principle #1 38:59 Invitation to Join the Conversation 39:27 ‘OM’-Work 40:35 Outro & Credits Additional Links & Further Exploration: ‘Frederick’ by Leo Lionni Earthships by Mike Reynolds Official Website Garbage Warrior: Documentary Film by Oliver Hodge Earthship Corner Cottage - A Quick Tour Earthship Brittany - Grand Designs 200-Hr Foundational Yoga Teacher Training with Catherine Transcend Your Story: Dr. Zach Bush MD on The Rich Roll Podcast
41:32
March 12, 2021
Observe and Interact
Join Paul and Catherine as they dive into Permaculture Principle #1: Observe & Interact, discussing how it shows up in natural systems & cycles, yoga, friendships, relationships, and life. Click here to join the conversation in The Living Spirit-fully! Collective Facebook Group. Connect with us: comealivepodcast@gmail.com Connect with Paul: Website | Instagram Connect with Catherine: Website | Facebook Connect with our sponsor Custom Cottage Concierge: Website | Instagram email: shannonjonas@customcottageconcierge.com Show Outline: 0:00 Opening 0:28 Poem - “To Look At Any Thing” by John Moffitt 1:23 how this poem relates to “Observe & Interact” 2:26 relating to Yoga Practice - be the witness 3:00 pause - the essence of all of us 3:32 taking long looks 3:59 the challenges with superficial glances 4:57 get intimate with the spaces in between 6:07 responses vs reactions 7:08 bringing it to life - Peace Lily story 9:27 principle applied to friendships/relationships 9:55 internal vs external processors 11:02 human-designed vs natural systems 13:57 BREAK 16:15 how does it show up in our lives - interacting with natural cycles 17:08 Ayurveda & simple shifts for balance 19:10 honouring natural impulses 20:57 natural cycles in relationships 22:48 removing labels - nothing is good or bad 23:10 Naples 26:33 see the beauty 27:34 observe & interact is the foundation 27:59 Tantra - treat everything as an experiment 28:00 dance 28:59 join the conversation 29:32 “Om-work” 30:51 Outro
31:55
February 26, 2021
Surveying The Landscape [Bonus Episode]
Get to know Paul and Catherine as they share the origins of this podcast, the journey we're about to begin, and how Permaculture can save the world! The 12 Permaculture Principles are: Observe and Interact Catch and Store Energy Obtain a Yield Self-Regulation and Accept Feedback Use and Value Renewables Produce No Waste Design from Patterns to Detail Integrate, Don't Segregate Small, Slow Solutions  Use and Value Diversity Use the Edges, Value the Marginal Creatively Use and Respond to Change Listen to the conversation that planted the seed for this podcast: click here to enjoy our Heart-To-Heart conversation.  Click here to join the conversation in The Living Spirit-fully! Collective Facebook Group. Connect with Paul: Website | Instagram Connect with Catherine: Website | Facebook Email us at comealivepodcast@gmail.com! Show Outline: 0:00  Opening 0:36  Catherine's journey 1:49  Paul's journey 2:35  How this podcast came to be 2:46  Spider plant story, Heart-to-Heart offshoot Come Alive! 4:08  Connection to Living Spirit-fully! 5:35  Come Alive! is what started to happen to us 5:53  Looping it back to Living Spirit-fully! 6:31  What is Living Spirit-fully! 7:05  What is Permaculture 7:50  Permaculture is a way to world peace! 9:26  Permaculture Principles listed 10:30  Previewing episode set-up 11:56  Purpose of the episodes 12:59  Invitation to join the conversation 13:55  Sign-off
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February 19, 2021
An Invitation To Thrive
How Will You Come Alive!? Bi-weekly episodes begin February 26, 2021. Join the conversation in The Living Spirit-fully! Collective Facebook Group. Click here to join. Connect with Paul: Website Instagram Connect with Catherine: Website Facebook Email us at comealivepodcast@gmail.com!
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February 11, 2021