The Coming Out Chronicles

Nadja is a powerhouse of a coach and someone that I have personally learned so much from in the past year.  I love that in this episode she shares vulnerably about her own internalized homophobia even though she's been married to a woman for years.  She teaches us some tools to work through this and inspires us to live whole lives.

I share my synopsis of Annie Duke's book Quit.

She shares so many helpful ideas of how to know when it's time to quit and how to do it well.  It really stretched my opinion of quitting from a judgement of being a bad thing, to it being a really good thing.

I hope it stretches you to think about times you maybe should have quit sooner in the past, or gives you courage and tools for quitting something that's not working for you right now.

I've been gone long enough.  After many nudges, the podcast is back!  I'm doing it raw and unedited, but I'm doing it.  The perfectionist part of me is having trouble just letting it be, but I know, the most important part is just showing up!

Many people have told me this podcast has helped them feel inspired and like they aren't alone, so I know it's important to come back and keep sharing.

During this winter’s hibernation season, The Coming Out Chronicles are taking a break from putting out new material. 
We didn’t want to leave you hanging though so we’ve got some of our older episodes set to automatically pre-release. 
We hope you enjoy them!
We always get something new every time we re-listen.

A faithful listener of the Coming Out Chronicles wrote in with her coming out story.  Listen in as Nancy reads it on the show and share’s what it brings up for her.  This exciting tale goes from being a youth pastor to building a tiny house to coming out as queer, with many twists and turns that are very relatable.

There's a special offering at the end of the story that isn't current right now, but let us know if you'd like to see it happen again.

02:09: Became a Christian to be saved from gayness

04:50: Being a Youth Pastor

07:37: Conversion Therapy

11:55: So You Think You Can Dance Anxiety Attack

13:37: Built a tiny house as a way to focus on 1 thing

14:45: Coming Out Poem

19:05: Started looking for life partner

22:53: Highlights from The Shift Retreat

During this winter’s hibernation season, The Coming Out Chronicles are taking a break from putting out new material. 
We didn’t want to leave you hanging though so we’ve got some of our older episodes set to automatically pre-release. 
We hope you enjoy them!
We always get something new every time we re-listen.

Elaine Alec joins Nancy this week to focus on two of her most impactful coming out stories, firstly as an alcoholic and more recently as an author. She touches on the ways in which she has found healing over the years that ultimately gave her the courage to follow her calling as a leader, teacher, advocate, and finally, a writer. 

01:53: Introduction
05:50: Coming out as an alcoholic
19:27: Coming out as an author
30:55: Calling My Spirit Back

During this winter’s hibernation season, The Coming Out Chronicles are taking a break from putting out new material. 
We didn’t want to leave you hanging though so we’ve got some of our older episodes set to automatically pre-release. 
We hope you enjoy them!
We always get something new every time we re-listen.

Joe Boivin returns to the show this week to reminisce with Nancy about their shared experience at a Missionary Kid boarding school in Kenya. Back before either of them had fully come out, Joe describes what it was like as he gradually came to terms with his queerness during that time. As they discuss how their relationship with each other developed throughout the following years, both reflect on how time has allowed them to change in so many ways, all of which have ultimately led up to where they are today.

After spending many hours of childhood catching insects and looking them up in the encyclopedia, Joe went to college to study Biology. He now has a PhD in Neuroscience and is completing his postdoctoral fellowship at MIT, where his research focuses on how brain cells form connections with each other during development.

03:50: Joe’s experience at RVA
00:15: Oranges and sexuality
20:05: Reconciling their relationship

During this winter’s hibernation season, The Coming Out Chronicles are taking a break from putting out new material. 
We didn’t want to leave you hanging though so we’ve got some of our older episodes set to automatically pre-release. 
We hope you enjoy them!
We always get something new every time we re-listen.

Last time she was on the show, Heather Morgan spoke about her experience of coming out with a chronic illness. This week, she returns to the podcast to talk with Nancy about her second coming out as neurodivergent. In doing so, she shares some of the overlap she’s found in the intersection between the unique experiences that neurodivergence and queerness have to offer. 

01:47: Connecting autism and queerness
27:00: Changing the metric for relationships
34:30: Embracing all “bodies” of our identity

During this winter’s hibernation season, The Coming Out Chronicles are taking a break from putting out new material. 
We didn’t want to leave you hanging though so we’ve got some of our older episodes set to automatically pre-release. 
We hope you enjoy them!
We always get something new every time we re-listen.

What happens when you embody a marginalized identity while knowing that you can hide it more easily than others? Carly Hutton offers her own perspective in her conversation with Nancy as she speaks from her experience as a biracial, bisexual woman. In her decision to come out to her community, she not only wanted to demonstrate her support with other queer people but to also show others that there are people who look and love like she does within the queer community that have valid experiences, as well. 

Carly Hutton is an Indigenous-Mexican woman living on unceded Sehmiahmoo lands, also known as Langley, BC. She is a writer, a musician, a wife, and a mother whose passion is to be an advocate for the marginalized. You can follow her family's journey on @carlymbutton on Instagram.

03:50: Coming out as bisexual
13:48: What prompted you to come out?
23:25: Support as an ally
31:56: What’s next…

During this winter’s hibernation season, The Coming Out Chronicles are taking a break from putting out new material. 
We didn’t want to leave you hanging though so we’ve got some of our older episodes set to automatically pre-release. 
We hope you enjoy them!
We always get something new every time we re-listen.

Prior to discovering her sexuality and coming out as a lesbian, Elena Thurston was formerly a dutiful Mormon wife and mother of four. In this episode, she opens up about her experience in conversion therapy after realizing that she was gay and how she is now an advocate working against conversion therapy in the church. She then updates us with how life has treated her since finally embracing herself fully for who she is and who she loves, as well as how that has affected her role as a mom. 

04:50: Joining the Mormon church and discovering her sexuality 
10:20: Falling in love with a woman and experiencing conversion therapy
20:50: Coming out to her kids
45:53: What’s next...

Josiah Boivin talks with Nancy about the several stages that have encapsulated his coming out as a trans man. After experiencing coming to terms with his own identity, he now desires to focus on telling his story so that it might be an example of hope and comfort for others, which includes giving advice to parents and those whose loved ones may be transitioning.

After spending many hours of childhood catching insects and looking them up in the encyclopedia, Joe went to college to study Biology. He now has a PhD in Neuroscience and is completing his postdoctoral fellowship at MIT, where his research focuses on how brain cells form connections with each other during development. 

02:30: Coming out
10:20: Learning new language for my gender
18:22: Advice to parents of kids who are transitioning
24:00: Next chapter of coming out

During this winter’s hibernation season, The Coming Out Chronicles are taking a break from putting out new material. 
We didn’t want to leave you hanging though so we’ve got some of our older episodes set to automatically pre-release. 
We hope you enjoy them!
We always get something new every time we re-listen.

During this winter’s hibernation season, The Coming Out Chronicles are taking a break from putting out new material. 
We didn’t want to leave you hanging though so we’ve got some of our older episodes set to automatically pre-release. 
We hope you enjoy them!
We always get something new every time we re-listen.

In this episode, Nancy speaks with Heather Morgan about her experience in “coming out” with a disability and chronic illness, along with the similarities it has with other coming out stories: feelings of shame, the need for validation, and the process of moving forward with one’s own healing. 

02:15 Coming out with chronic illness

11:30 Going from “If I could just…” to “I wonder why…”

14:50 Heather’s goal for her clients (embodiment and re-embodiment)

26:50 Starting the coming out journey

During this winter’s hibernation season, The Coming Out Chronicles are taking a break from putting out new material. 
We didn’t want to leave you hanging though so we’ve got some of our older episodes set to automatically pre-release. 
We hope you enjoy them!
We always get something new every time we re-listen.

Randy Boissonnault went from being a kid scared to be seen on campus when the GSA was meeting to being the Special Advisor to Prime Minister Justin Trudeau on LGBTQ2 Issues.
In this episode, he shares with Nancy what drives him to create social change and promote inclusion so passionately.  Randy is a great example of just how much is waiting for us on the other side of our closet doors.  Buckle up for some incredible stories of what has happened since Randy came out.

10:50 The moment of being exposed.
23:24 How hard could it be to raise the LGBT flag on Parliament hill?
33:01  How is your business diverse by design?
34:32 Diversity is when you’re invited to the dance, inclusion is when someone invites you to dance.  When’s the last time you invited someone different than you to dance?
35:11 We need to get from Ally-ship to champion-ship… An ally is someone who has your back when you’re in the room.  A Champion is someone who has your back when you’re not in the room.  We need more champions that have your back when you’re not in the room.

During this winter’s hibernation season, The Coming Out Chronicles are taking a break from putting out new material. 
We didn’t want to leave you hanging though so we’ve got some of our older episodes set to automatically pre-release. 
We hope you enjoy them!
We always get something new every time we re-listen.

Join Nancy Shadlock, the host of The Coming Out Chronicles, as she shares her own coming out journey. From a difficult realization for herself, to the navigation of her changing relationship with her parents, Nancy shares the events that led to her decision to come out and intimate glimpses of the challenges and triumphs she and her family have faced since.  Listen in as she shares the next coming-out chapter she feels called to step into.

4:30 What some drunk guys elicited from Nancy

6:59 The painful decision to come out

During this winter’s hibernation season, The Coming Out Chronicles are taking a break from putting out new material. 
We didn’t want to leave you hanging though so we’ve got some of our older episodes set to automatically pre-release. 
We hope you enjoy them!
We always get something new every time we re-listen.

Keturah joins Nancy in this episode to talk about coming out as the daughter of a Missionary, what it’s like to be a queer woman in the military and being a queer woman with religious beliefs. Keturah explains how her family have embraced and struggled with her coming out, and how her ongoing connection to her childhood experiences shape the actions she is taking today.

Being a young black American living in Kenya, Keturah grew up challenged by stereotypes and oppression, particularly while attending a mostly all-white religious boarding school. Keturah shares with Nancy what impact that has had on her, both in terms of her race and her sexuality.  

Listen to Keturah talk about her own experiences, as a daughter, as a black woman, as a queer woman, as an adopted woman, and as a member of the military.

In this episode you'll hear about:

4:02 Coming out to friends for the first time

5:40 Advice from Karamo of Queer Eye

6:40 Dad, will you walk me down the aisle if I marry a woman?

9:43 Don’t ask, don’t tell

21:40 Black Lives Matter

29:20 Keturah’s next coming out story

A personal coming out is brewing and who better to recognize the signs of a shift than the Coming Out Coach herself -Nancy Shadlock. After 65 episodes and 10,000 downloads in this brief episode, Nancy talks about the upcoming pause of the Chronicles for this winter season as well as the excitement of seeing where the Coming Out Chronicles has come and will go in the future.  Nancy talks about embracing these new coming outs, how we can move through them, feeling our feels and getting the peace we need so we can step into the fullest version of ourselves.

0:31: A thank you

1:35: An Announcement

3:27: A season of nurturing

In this episode special guest, Heather Vickery host of the Brave Files talks about coming out of the closet later in life, and how she took that experience directly into creating her coaching business. Heather recounts her marriage and divorce as well as her family's reactions to her accidental coming out. Heather now speaks about her coaching business based on being brave and her new book F*ck Fearless part memoir part case studies and part action, all about her brave method meant to teach you how to think creatively and strategically.

1:20: Ripping the bandaid off - coming out

5:29: Family reaction

8:22: A big switch in business

11:02: Contagious bravery

12:37: F*ck Fearless

21:02: Boundaries

29:17: The next chapter

This week is a special one specifically centred around a phenomenon that happens for people with vulvas. Katrina Grabner vulnerably shares her own story of living with Chronic Sexual Pain. She goes into her decade of frustration and disappointment with the medical system and the internal feelings that came with Chronic Sexual Pain. Katrina now works as an Art Therapist and details how her work now helps others as well as nourishes herself.  Katrina shares her incredibly intimate story as a way of continuing to help normalize and educate those with vaginas about the possibilities for their unexplained pain and the potential for help and hope.

2:40: Chronic sexual pain

4:40: The unfortunate normalization

10:22 : Repercussions / Coital Imperative

14:39:  The problem with getting the diagnosis

20:26: Connection to your own body

25:00: The shift starting to happen

31:04: After a decade

36:44: Reflection

44:17: The next layer

48:00: exploring

Tania Cheng talks about growing up a self-proclaimed non-athletic tomboy, looking back they can see the signs of their coming out but before they had to come to terms with their own internal issues. Today Tania talks about the difficultly of living a closeted life but the eventual change that came when they came out. Tania tells us about their new exploration of being non-binary and the beautiful path in front of them as well as the struggles they are still facing and overcoming. Tania talks about seeing bad habits within their life and how they escaped the negative cycle they were in that they never realized existed.

4:50: Internal Issues

8:12: My first coming out

10:14: Coming out to the parents 

13:29: Getting better 

16:13: Proud to be together

22:44: Non-Binary

32:55: What’s next

Ashlee Livingstone is a Canadian business owner known for her events and she’s on the verge of a coming out chapter professionally. Ashley speaks on imposter syndrome and its place in her changing business, with Covid shutting down events she has transitioned into a new branch of what she can do with her business with not just virtual events but also deeper connections between clients. Nancy walks Ashlee through her fears of her new business and asks the hard questions, as Ashlee talks about the issues she believes are present within this change as well as her desire to push forward and bring her idea to fruition. Tune in and notice Ashlees’s energy transform before your eyes.

2:48: A coming out brewing

6:43: Stuck in your own head

11:55: Skills behind the business

16:56: Talking it through

21:30: Judgment

31:13: The takeaway

In this solo episode, Nancy talks about the tools she uses within her own practice and examples of how she interprets them for her clients as well as how they show up in her own life. Nancy speaks about how these tools can be used to create a synergetic team for any organization and how she’s creating a new entrepreneurial venture -The Flame Tree Collective. As well Nancy shares her shift in business and the energy she is receiving as well as what allowed that shift and the new playful mindset she's adopted.

1:25: Working lighter

2:25: The magic quiz 

3:46: Compassion Magic

5:54: Expansion Magic

9:48: The gene keys and leaning into your gifts

12:23: A Hub

14:45: A vision of playfulness

This week Dr. Tanya Rampersad talks to Nancy about coming out with a new chapter in her profession. Tanya recalls her early years working in homeopathy and naturopathy while incorporating science but being drawn to the spiritual. Eventually, she had to let her business be reborn to get the best possible results both for her and her clients. Tanya talks about what made her change and come out of what she knew and was safe, so she could make a way to help her clients at a deeper level.

5:40: The background

10:30: Having to change the business

14:56: What changed?

16:50: An example of what Tanya does

21:03: The spirituality in it 

22:32: The hardest parts of coming out with the practice

24:28: Human Design

30:30: Navigating the social aspects of the job

This week Mike Iamele recounts his coming out story that all started from an unexpected health issue. Mike recounts how he first met his now-husband Garret and the journey of being surprised by love. He also recounts the first public coming out 8 years ago through a viral blog post and a book, and the ramifications, he now shares what he learnt from the experience and the moments he took from it. To finish it all off Mike shares his amazing proposal story where everything seemed to go wrong but ended up right.

5:59: Leaving the job

9:58: Labels

13:55: The experience

18:10: The proposal story

33:50: What's next

This week Dr. Angela Lauria talks about coming out as BI.  She shares about being straight passing and how she worked really hard to be a good ally, all the while pushing her own sexuality down to keep others comfortable. She talks about the pressures of having a family who pushed her to be “normal” at the expense of her true self. Angela tells how she finally came to a breaking point and decided that enough was enough, and officially come out. Make sure you listen to the end to hear about her unique relationship with her parenting partner and the magic that has worked so well for them for the past 17 years.

2:35: Straight but not narrow

5:16: Coming Out Publicly

7:35: The many breaking points

9:43: What the family wants

17:09: Support from the Community

19:04: Bi women

21:55:  Parenting Partner

22:59: Claim your own identity

37:58: When the kids go to college

This time we're doing something a little different! You get to listen in as Nancy has a session with her client, Heather (with her permission of course!)

Heather joins Nancy for a session to analyze her gene keys and how they play into her life and work. Heather gives us a deeply personal look into her life and how it has been affected by her experiences... and how those fit into her deeper calling. They discussed her previous work and what just didn't fit and why and what she may be called to in the future.

This week's guest is Katya Veleva who talks about her experience growing up in Eastern Europe and how different that was from her current reality. Much changed when Katya moved to London England where she felt free to explore her true self and break all kinds of rules, including in the dating world. She found enormous acceptance while playing Quidditch helped her grow in acceptance and ultimately come out about her sexuality. Katya’s visits back home are a stark contrast to her current reality, but she seeks to maintain relationships even when they’re hard. Katya shares a really tender next chapter of her coming out story which she is stepping into bravely.

2:36: Growing up in Eastern Europe

8:28: Community of Quidditch 

16:04: Evolution of parents

21:05: PCOS and the side effects

25:39: Getting to that place of showing true self

Stacey Chomiak takes us through her story of growing up closeted in the Evangelical church. Living in a not-so-supportive environment and the struggles of not having someone to talk to, Stacey talks about how exactly that changed and why. Today Stacey is creating books that help others not feel alone in that storyline.  Her soon-to-be-released young adult visual novel is going to offer hope and inspiration to many that currently feel alone and like outcasts in their families and churches.  

3:16: Growing up very evangelical

9:10: Getting a girlfriend right after an ex-gay conference

17:27: The Next Coming Out: The Book

21:40: Fear and Aspiration

24:25: Behind the previous books

27:09: How to get a book deal

31:12: Advice to a younger self

Film Director-Rocky tells us about their movie “1946” which is based on a mistranslation of the word Homosexual in the Bible that only started appearing after the year 1946. That change in interpretation has caused hurt for many people for decades. In the podcast, Rocky takes us through their story of coming out and how they walked away from “it all” in terms of their religious upbringing, but how they just can’t seem to walk away from the truth behind this event of mistranslating the Bible back in 1946. Rocky tells us a little bit of what we will be able to see in the movie and the behind-the-scenes thoughts for the story. Showing empirical evidence and historical research a very thoughtful case is offered for combatting the hurt that the word Homosexual has caused in the Bible. 

2:24: Coming out and making a movie

6:32: Victims of bad theology

15:07: What the Bible said before

20:30: Time or Money

24:40: Being pushed away

Books mentioned: 

This week Vicki Saunders the founder of SheEO takes us through her journey of coming out of the old boys club of corporate and then how she founded the largest female-identifying business support network to date. Vicki talks about her passion for getting rid of manufactured scarcity in our lives and believing we have the efficacy to live what we are called to. She talks about the need for community and interconnection within business and has pioneered a radical generosity with SheEO’s regular practice of asking and giving support to each other. Vicki takes us through her journey of breaking out from the mentality that kept her from achieving what she wanted and shares her advice for others who feel the same.

Nancy shares vulnerably about her recent growth and internal shift. Follow Nancy’s journey of transformation and learn what worked for her, as it also might be a hack for you.  She speaks about how changing something in your life is never easy, but so worth it to live the best life you can. Listen till the end for a little bit about the next retreat Nancy has available and the wonderful things it can do for you. 

Harris is a 30-something-year-old nonbinary person from Hertfordshire, UK. Harris realized they were trans/nonbinary in their mid-twenties and have since made the commitment to becoming the advocate they needed, but never had. In this episode, Harris takes us through their journey of growing up queer and the roller coaster of self-discovery. Follow along as they share their feelings about gender, sexuality and body image, and how that has shifted and changed over time. Harris and Nancy talk about regression, reincarnation and the stories and ideas around them, exploring the more spiritual side of things. Harris gives us a different outlook on living and experiencing life as we know it and the challenging but rewarding experience of growing out of preconceived ideas. As an entrepreneur and world-renowned LGBTQ+ advocate, Harris is dedicated to making every story as familiar to us as our own.

01:02: Growing up Queer

13:16: A realization about my gender

19:00: Gender Identity

22:40: Body Image

25:42: Reincarnation

23:35 : Antidote to shame

45:47: What ticks me off

We’re so excited this week to have Aiko Bethea. She's the Senior Co-Director of The Daring Way and Dare to Lead Communities and the Diversity, Equity, Inclusion Sr. Advisor and Executive Coach for Brene Brown's Education and Research Group.  Aiko is also a mother, activist, lawyer and badass woman fighting for change in workplaces. Aiko tells us her story of growing up and how mindsets and prejudice affected her growing up, and how they played into what she's doing now. Aiko takes us through how companies should be providing intentional spaces for POC's and those in the LGBT community. She also offers wisdom on how to create safe spaces for those who are different than us. Aiko and Nancy share some stories on reconciliation; how we can see it today and how to be an agent for it in your own context. They also talk about diffusing shame and learning to see and empathize with others' perspectives. Join us for this jam-packed interview!

04:05: Being Outed

11:00: Intentional spaces

19:30: Reframing (feeling attacked)

22:29: Reconciliation 

43:06: A different version of me

Justin Lee, the author of Torn talks about his story of coming from a very faithful evangelical Christian family and how to reconcile his sexuality with his spirituality and eventually become a best-selling author and podcast host. Justin faced many internal struggles without resources yet found a way to move forward, breakthrough and eventually provide resources for others. Justin shares his newest coming out story of writing a book called Talking across the divide, where he uses what he learned in having hard conversations between Christians and the LGBT community to help people talk across all kinds of other divides.  This work is so important in our current political climate.  Whether it be you or somebody else in your life coming out or having different opinions on an issue, Justin provides a perspective for everyone!

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02:25: The Coming Out story

9:39: Having to pass a threshold

13:44: The hardest part of coming out

22:58 Helping the parents come around

31:41: Talking Across the Divide

Esther is a creator, artist, budding writer, podcaster, and all-around magical creature. In this podcast, she covers the fluidity of gender, relationships and love, in the many ways they appear. Esther shows us that there is no “normal” way to have a relationship, the key to achieve happiness with a partner is communication and understanding. While Esther's relationships may not be similar to your own there are lessons that apply to everyone, whether it be learning about yourself or your partner. This episode is all about learning, communication, and the acceptance of growth in relationships.

02:25: Pansexual / The first coming out

6:42: Speaking about labels

7:56: Solo-polyam

9:39: Love and connection without restrictions

14:10: A conversation about polyamory with your partner

27:20: 50 shades of gender

Nancy takes us through the process of her spiritual transformation over the past decade.  She’s moved from being quite a conservative Christian to not being limited by the boxes of any particular spiritual dogma. She has come to realize that whatever path is leading you deeper into love and connection is truly a beautiful spiritual path. Nancy talks about how learning from others who do not have the same beliefs broadens your spirituality, as well as how vibrant spirituality evolves with us rather than staying stagnant.

2:00: Boarding School

4:16: Receiving who I am

6:02: Spiritual Direction

10:50: A new embodiment of spirituality

22:50: Many Paths

26:46: Anticipation of breakthrough 

Raised as a Southern Baptist Missionary Kid in a conservative Christian environment, Anna Miller had to shed many layers of belief and unbelief to come out...while still retaining her faith. As a therapist, she shares her view on the core issues that held her in the closet and how we can break free from the issues that weigh us down. Anna talks about how we as people can become less divided, understanding those we don't understand and how they can do the same with us.

4:18: Leaving the Church

7:49: Opening your eyes

9:03: Sexually Assaulted

14:27: Speaking up

30:00: You don't have to do it alone

36:18: Being Vulnerable as a parent

38:45 Empathy paradigm

Steph talks about coming out in more ways than one and understanding relationships with her family through her coming outs. She talks about how her view on religion has evolved and how the discovery of her ADHD has become her superpower. Steph shares her dreams for the gift of acceptance to reach not just her community but spread worldwide. Her words are fantastic encouragement to keep getting to know and using our own individual superpowers.

01:48: Coming out: Due to a computer search

7:16: Catholic Values but a little bit different

8:21: Spiritual Practices 

17:40: The gift of acceptance

19:52: Figuring out your ADHD Superpowers

23:30: Nancy’s Coming Out

We tend to see everything in boxes: people, things, goals, etc… This podcast with BE is an eye-opener about how we as a species overcomplicate and cause problems in an effort to create a fatter bottom line.   The language of what we say and the names we give things don't match up with their purpose. BE also talks about their work with the Alinker, a unique walking bike and other magnets she has and is creating to make the world a better place.

02:30: BE Alink: Behind the person

5:54: Pronouns

7:10: Sick Care versus Healthcare

14:12: Uncomplicating things

18:49: The Alinker

21:56: The wrong questions

46:48: Circumstances of radical generosity 

Divorce is such a tense stressful word for most of us, something synonymous with failure of a relationship. But it doesn’t always have to be that way.  A new term “Conscious Uncoupling” has been emerging, and rightfully so. Melissa DaSilva takes us through her journey of uncoupling from her husband, sharing her story of how a relationship can come to a peaceful end.

03:20: Conscious Uncoupling

5:02: Leaning into being bisexual

9:45: Opposite sides of the bed

12:09: Not the traditional way

16:45: Joint Custody of the dog

18:24: Wisdom of Uncoupling

19:20: The new chapter

In a solo episode Nancy talks about current issues with descrimination in the church. Outdated policies are going to lead to the death of churches as we know them.  Nancy offers some ideas of how that divide could be bridged, so that all life could be celebrated and a flourishing world created.

01:10: Spiritual Abuse

0:3:08 : Doubling down in the wrong direction for marriage equality.

09:26: Having to divorce spirituality from sexuality

10:23: Working with organizations

 16:56: The Thoughtful Queer Circle

19:23: Everyone has gifts