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Money & Plants

Money & Plants

By Conor Devine
There are two big topics I'm hugely passionate about in life - Business and Health.

In the last 15 years I've went through three very different entrepreneurial transformations. The world continues to evolve, everything continues to change, but how are we all adapting?

Health is another topic which sits right at the top of my agenda.

In 2007, after a short period of ill health, I was diagnosed with Multiple Sclerosis, and over the last 13 years, I've been fighting everyday, trying to get my health back.

In this podcast we will be talking about Money and Plants 💰🌾
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#37 The Psychology of mental performance with Paul Mc Veigh ⚽️ 🧠
In this episode I get to speak to former Tottenham hotspur, Norwich, Burnley and Northern Ireland International, Paul Mc Veigh about his life to date, and how over the last ten years he has went through his own incredible transformations, from the Premier League in England, to being one of the most highly sought after public speakers in the field of mental performance. Having left West Belfast for the dizzy lights of London as a 16 year old kid, Paul found himself playing with some of the world's best footballers including Jurgen Klinnsman, David Ginola, and Les Ferdinand.  When his manager George Graham, decided to let him go from Spurs, this rejection was another challenge for Paul to overcome.  Overcome he did, and a successful spell at Norwich City commenced when his manager, Paul Lambert went onto describe Paul in his book "The Stupid Footballer"  as being, - "few have been more determined and driven to make the most of their ability than Paul Mc Veigh, a manager's dream with a wonderful attitude".   Paul then decided to leave football and pursue a degree in psychology, and post his studies worked for six years as a sports psychologist for Norwich City and Crystal palace.  In the last five years Paul has continued to push himself through continued professional development and is now one of the most highly sought after public speakers, in the whole area of performance psychology.  He now regularly speaks to huge corporations about the important if mental performance and how we can all improve upon our mental performance.   In what is a wide ranging conversation, I hope you get some value from this.  You can find more information about Paul across his social media platforms and also his website  If you want to connect with me, please email  Look after yourself and each other, CD
November 27, 2021
#36 Taking back control of your health with Dr Gemma Newman
Dr Gemma Newman is no ordinary doctor. A GP now for over 17 years, she entered into the medical professional with one main goal, which was to help people. Over the years she has grown to understand how wonderful, yet how limited the conventional medicine model can be. Chronic modern medicine is fantastic, and when we have a car accident, and need emergency surgery or a life saving course of antibiotics, the advances in modern medicine has been extraordinary. However the same cannot be said for the treatment of chronic disease.  Things like back pain, heart disease, diabetes, depression, auto immune disease, are much tougher nuts to crack.  Over the last fifteen years I have had plenty of experience of this trying to manage my own multiple sclerosis.  In 2006 I got very ill, diagnosed with MS one year later and started a range of medications to help manage my symptoms.  I was injecting copaxone to 2016, when I decided that the conventional path to managing my condition was not the best path for me.  In April 2016, I switched to a plant based diet, and started to practice a lifestyle approach to managing my health, trying to induce and fast track the healing process.  I have to tell you it is people like Dr Newman, who have validated every single decision I have made over the last 5.5 years.  Dr Newman is a wonderful example of a new group of medical practitioners, who have a deep understanding of our bodies and an appreciation for the role our lifestyle plays in our health.  In this conversation I start of by asking Gemma, when did she know she wanted to be a doctor, and who continues to inspire her today.  Gemma over the years has become much more open minded on what is the best course of action for her patients to implement programs and lifestyles that kickstart the healing process in people's bodies and allow them to go on and lead better healthier happier lives.  She learned more about psychological interventions, ways she could support people to change their mindset to facilitate change and growth, and to help her patients with their mental health. Her own journey to plant based advocacy came by chance, as it was her husbands transition to this way of living who convinced her to give it a go.  Curiosity got the better of her and with a family history of heart disease, and after seeing her husband benefit from the transition, she herself went plant based and started to see a remarkable improvement in her own health within the first 28 days.  Over the next number of months, everything about her health started to improve including going from a size 18 to a size 8.  This gave Gemma the foundation and confidence to bring her new learnings into her professional setting and with over 3000 patients in her family practice, Gemma spends alot of time speaking to her patients about ways in which they can change their lifestyle, what they eat, how they move, think and interact with people, and the difference this can make to their all round health.  This is a wonderful conversation and I know you will get some incredible value from it.  Please also check Dr Newman out across her social media channels as everyday she is sharing free content, all designed to help people become healthier.  Her website is also an excellent resource and her new book, The Plant Power Doctor, is a wonderful investment and I believe should sit in every family home. I can tell you that by me changing the way I life and changing my environment, I have been able to totally transform my life and my health.  I know and have met many others in the last ten years who have had a similar experience.  This is a subject matter close to my heart as I know if you decide to give this a go, commit, and be disciplined in your approach, the return on that investment will be incredible and actually it is also great fun. You can reach me at
November 20, 2021
#35 What's going on in the housing market Jordan ?
In this episode I welcome back one of my most popular guests to the show, PropertyPals Chief Economist, Jordan Buchanan. Over the last fifteen months, the housing market, almost everywhere right across the world, has outperformed everyone's expectations. In Northern Ireland, personally I felt the market would cool significantly as a result of the pandemic, however the opposite has occured. In this conversation Jordan sets out what has happened in the laat year, why it happened, what challenges the market faces and what 2022 might look like in this market. This is a wide ranging comversation which I'm pretty sure you guys will get some value from. If you have any questions, please reach me at and also if you have a minute, I would be very grateful if you could leave me a review and share this with one or two people you think might be interested in the subject matter. Thanks for listening, and remember to look after yourself, and each other CD ☘
November 13, 2021
#34 Courage, Resilience & Integrity with Jack Kavanagh
In episode 34 of series 3, I get to speak to one of my great friends Jack Kavanagh.   I have been pretty open over the last ten years about my own trials and tribulations in life, and I accept I have made incredible progress, however one of the reasons I have been able to make so much progress is that I have surrounded myself with absolute warriors, who have encouraged and inspire me to keep moving forward in life.  Jack is one of these people. A few years ago Jack and myself met up for the first time, and started what is a growing friendship of trust, respect and admiration. At 20 years of age in 2012, Jack experienced a traumatic event in his life, that would change everything.  He broke his neck in a freak accident on holiday, and as a result has a mere 15% muscle function in his body.  The truly fascinating thing about Jack is that this adversity seems to have played an incredibly positive role in creating this powerful human being, who is now so strong, so articulate and so interested in helping people develop in their own life through personal development.  Courage, resilience and integrity are central occurring themes when you are in Jacks presence.  Such a grounded and humble person if you are lucky enough to be in his company, however it's when he starts to speak and share his philosophy of life, is when he is at his most powerful. I recognised a number of years ago that in life, we will all encounter and go through traumatic events.  The key then has to be how we react to such events. This is often touch and go, as it is not always easy to pick the right pathway forward.  I can assure you if you find people like Jack, listen to what they say, and how they live their own lives, you will get an incredible amount of strength and value from this exercise. In 2016, Jack released his documentary Breaking Boundaries, where him and his mates went to the West Coast of the US, to live out some of their dreams.  I highly recommend you watch this, and also Jacks Ted talk. I am a much better person having met Jack, and I'm pretty confident, if you study this man's work and his message, you will be all the better for it also. I hope you get some value from this conversation. You can reach me at and I would love to get some feedback on this one. Look after yourself, and each other, CD ☘
November 6, 2021
Against All Odds - Tyrone Man fights back from widow-maker heart attack in New York
In this episode I get to speak to an old friend from Tyrone who has been building a new life for himself and his family over the last 10 years in New York City.   On 29th March at around 8pm, Mickey Coleman came back from his usual run in the city, only to experience an excruciating pain in his chest.  He told his wife he needed an ambulance as he knew something was badly wrong.  What Mickey didn't know at that time was that he was experiencing what is known in the medical world as a "widow -maker" heart attack, which has a 6% survival rate. That means that 94% of people who have this kind of heart attack die.  Mickey was immediately now in his biggest ever battle, which was to live. His heart stopped three times in the ambulance on the way to hospital and he spent a number of days in a coma in the hospital.  In those few days Mickey tells me on the podcast he has a number of weird, deep dark spiritual experiences in his own mind as he was fighting for his life in hospital. The amazing news being that 12 days later, he was able to leave hospital and head for home to start his new life of recovery. In this conversation, Mickey tells us exactly what happened on the night of the 29th March and what the last few months have looked like for him and his family. The new Mickey is now incredibly grateful for everything that he has in his life today.  His wife and kids, his family, his health and his new sense of purpose.  His story of recovery has travelled around the world as he is a very popular well know sportsman and musician. I would like to wish Mickey well and thank him for sharing his experience with me on the pod.  The reason I wanted to get him on is that I do believe his story, approach to life and changes he has made in his life, can educate, empower and inspire all of us to continue to embrace CHANGE in our own lives. Mickey has transitioned to a plant based lifestyle, and is incredibly passionate about this switch and how his new nutrition program is going to help keep him alive and healthy for a very long time. I hope you guys get incredible value from this conversation, and if you have any questions or queries, please get me at  Please don't be like me and Mickey, and wait until something happens in your life until you make changes.  Start today, right now, and figure out what YOU need to do to improve your life and CHANGE your life. I wish you well. If you enjoyed this podcast, please leave me a review and share it with your friends and family. Many Thanks and look after yourselves, Chat to you soon, CD
July 23, 2021
Let's talk to America's Healthy Heart Doc 🇺🇸 Dr Joel Kahn 🌱
In this conversation I get to speak to one of the world's leading cardiologists about all things health related.  Dr Kahn is an interventional Cardiologist, who literally saves peoples lives every day.  As some of my listeners already know, I have went through my own incredible health transformation over the last 15 years, and therefore it was amazing to speak to Joel and ask him directly about a number of things that are really crucial to understand, if we really want to avoid meeting people like him in hospital theatres.  A vegan for over 30 years, and now 62 years of age, with arteries of a 20 year old, I really wanted to understand if the science tells us, if we can genuinely reverse and/or prevent any of these diseases.  From heart health to brain health, exercise to alcohol, this was a wide ranging and fascinating conversation.  Dr Kahn talks at length about saturated fat and the fact that there is universal agreement across the divide, that a diet low in saturated fat is the best one to follow for your overall health.    We discuss numerous studies that have occured over the last 100 years, and what the science is telling us about how we can avoid the world's biggest killer Coronary Artery Disease. Vitamin B12 and it's importance is also discussed, along with the crucial role played by Omega 3 in the body. Speaking from personal experience, discipline is a characteristic you need in abundance, to arrive at, and maintain optimum health. It was a decision I took in April 2016, to change the way I was living my life, go plant based and walk away from the conventional approach (drugs) of managing disease, which has ultimately changed my own life. I am hoping that even one of my listeners might get some inspiration from this conversation, to go on and make the necessary changes that could transform their own life. I hope you guys really enjoy this very special edition of the podcast, and get tremendous value from it.  Please leave me a review if you wish, and share this pod with your friends and family. By people listening to this, it may even save a life. Now wouldn't that be incredible.  If you have any questions or want to get in touch, email :  Finally have a look at Dr Kahn's website for further reading and study :  Speak to you all again soon, CD ☘
July 8, 2021
Northern Ireland is better off being part of the UK, with Philip Smith
In this episode I speak to a senior Ulster Unionist Politician, Philip Smith about some of the arguments for N Ireland to remain in the UK. Over the last twelve months we have seen a range of people, podcasts and events talking about the benefits of Irish Unity, but we haven't seen much energy from the Unionist side in this regard. Enter United UK, a Pro Union campaign group, and one of it's founding members Philip Smith. One of the objectives of United UK, is to package up the benefits of NI remaining in the Union, and going after the 20% of people who might be voting in any upcoming border poll, but haven't decided on who to vote for. In what turned out to be a wide ranging open discussion, we talk about the new UUP leader Doug Beattie, the rejuvenation of the party, the NI Centenary year, the NI Protocol and finishing up talking about why Philip believes NI is better off staying in the UK. I really enjoyed chatting to Philip, and as I said in the conversation, I welcome him and groups like United UK and would encourage them to get stuck into the body of peer reviewed work that is required, if they want to underscore and validate their arguments over the next few years. If you enjoyed the show, please let me know at and remember to leave me a review and share the pod with someone you think might be interested in the subject matter. Look after yourself and speak to you soon CD ☘
July 1, 2021
The Subvention - What does Northern Ireland ACTUALLY cost the UK exchequer?
For the last few years I have become very interested in this central part of any Irish Unity discussion - the UK subvention to NI.  Northern Ireland relies on the UK exchequer, to provide a subvention (grant) so it can pay it's bills every year.  In essence we run what's called a fiscal deficit, in that we don't generate enough money in the NI economy to pay our bills. If NI was a business it would be labelled as insolvent, but in relation to the UK, it is not the only region that is technically "insolvement". The UK government claim, through the Office of National Statistics (ONS) that the current subvention is £9.5BN, which is a payment they claim to make every single year to NI.  However over the last couple of years as the unity discussion has gathered legs, more and more people are starting to look into things like the subvention, to find out what is the real figure, as it's kind of important to know, as in all likelihood, we are going to have a border poll on the island of Ireland in the next 10 years.  John Doyle is the Director of DCU Institute for International Conflict Resolution and Reconstruction, and in June of this year, he published a peer reviewed paper to look into the subvention and try and figure out what the actual cost is, should there be a United Ireland over the next number of years. In this conversation, John sets out his body of work, which took him around nine months to produce, which really is a very educational and fascinating listen.  The big ticket items on this subvention payment list are Pensions, (£3.5bn) National Debt (£1.6bn) Defence Expenditure (£1,14bn) Outside Expenditure (765M) and an underestimate of the tax revenues of some £500M. Following his investigations, John is of the view that any subvention is actually closer to £2.8BN, if there were ever to be a United Ireland.  For me it was very interesting to get into the detail on this, as ultimately should the occasion arise where the majority of people on the island of Ireland want Irish Unity, this negotiation on the subvention, and to keep it simple, will ultimately end up in a kind of a "horse deal", between both sets of governments, which is fascinating in itself. Over the last twelve months I have gravitated to a position where the subvention for me is somewhat of a red herring, and this conversation proved that academically and financially, there is now no reason to assume that the Republic of Ireland cannot afford to take on N Ireland.  In fact If you revert to the Hübner report of 2016, it sets out in more detail that over the first eight years of a new Ireland, with an all island economy, there would be a €35BN positive net swing in revenue, as a result of the new economic structure. This is one of the key parts of any Unity discussion, and I am very grateful to John for speaking to me earlier this week on this issue, and I congratulate him on his paper, and would encourage you to download it and read it yourself. If you have any questions in relation to the episode, you can get me at  If you get a moment, please rate the podcast, and if you don't mind, send it onto to one of your pals. Look after yourself, and speak to you again soon, CD
June 17, 2021
Modern Monetary Theory (MMT) - The Gamechanger
In this episode I get to speak to one of the UK's brightest economic thinkers, economist, and central-bank specialist, Mr Dario Perkins, Managing Director of Global Macro, TS LOMBARD, the Global Investment think tank, with 30 years experience on key issues in Economics, Politics and Markets.  The two main topics of discussion in this conversation are INFLATION and MODERN MONETARY THEORY (MMT) Inflation - do you understand it, what does it mean, and why is it important?   Dario spells all of this out in his very easy to follow way, breaking it down for us, allowing us to grasp the fact that when government's talk about inflation, it's really the sustained increases in prices they are looking out for.   In his view there is alot of noise around at the moment, all supply and demand related.  Most of this makes sense, with the idea being it should all settle down, as economies and the pent up demand across a range of sectors evens itself out, over the rest of this year. There is a very smooth transition into explaining MMT, and why that could be the game changer for society right now.   This MMT discussion really is fascinating to watch and play out across the world, as it seems to me there are two groups of economists in the world today(just to try and keep things simple). Those of the more traditional economic mindset, who remember made an absolute mess of the 10 years (referred to as the lost decade) post the last Global Financial Crisis in 2008, and then those who see economics through a different lease, where they don't actually believe that deficits and governments borrowing money is the real story and all that interesting.   I talk about one of the US leading economist's Stephanie Kelton in this conversation a few times, as she has written an excellent book which I recommend "The Deficit Myth". There are a couple of key points to understand, but one fundamental one being that for those countries that are issuers of their own currency, like the US, UK and Australia, then you should never be in a position where you would have to default and you can also set your own interest rates.   In essence what MMT does is to provide the tools and software for these countries to try and fix some of the huge problems facing it like climate change, infrastructure and inequality, by providing governments fiscal space to provide for more expansive fiscal policy. Dario shares his veiw on what Biden is doing with MMT (Bidenomics) in the US right now, borrowing billions of dollars to drive the recovery there.  In the EU it looks like they are also going in that direction but Interestingly Dario feels that if BJ is going to remain in power in the UK, he will have to follow suit. I hope you enjoy this conversation and get some value from it.   As ever all feedback, greatly appreciated. Finally If you have a minute, I would be really grateful for a review wherever you get your podcasts and if you share this with one other person. Have a great weekend all, and look after yourself and each other. CD
June 10, 2021
The King of Crypto ➡️ Bitcoin
In this episode, I take the podcast to South America, to speak to Rodrigo Benadon, the founding partner of Crypto Investment Fund Moonquant.Capital Rod was actually speaking to me from Miami earlier this week, as he is attending one of the world's biggest crypto conference's. This is a really fascinating conversation and a real treat for all of you guys who tune into this episode. Rod is a super intelligent, super interesting crypto expert, who has committed the last nine years of his life to understanding this space and then to go on and build a very successful Crypto Investment Fund, where he advises and manages his investors money across the crypto investment sector. It's become very clear in the last twelve months, that investing in crypto and Bitcoin in particular is becoming more popular, and particularly when we see institutional money and Wall Street getting involved in a huge way, and also becoming very vocal in thier support for this asset class. What I really wanted to find out in this conversation was firstly, what is Bitcoin, is it Money, who controls it, what can we use it for, and why does there appear to be so much push back of late from central governments and let's call them the ruling classes. We get into all of this and much more including discussing why Warren Buffet hate it, Elon Musk's behaviour and impact on the Volatility of Bitcoin, and "Rich Dad Poor Dad's" Robert Kiyosaki's support and enthusasiasm for Bitcoin and crypto in general. I put it to Rod that people don't understand money, never mind Bitcoin, so how will adoption on a mass scale actually take place ? Rod is very clear, Bitcoin is better than money, and just like blockbuster went out of business as Netflix came along with a better solution, the same will happen with bitcoin and certain crypto solutions. Maybe this is true,maybe it isn't, whatever your view, I hope you guys get some value from this conversation and enjoy this episode, as much as I did putting it together. As ever all feedback most welcome, and you can reach me on I'm looking forward to getting Rod back on the pod already, but until then, Look after yourself and each other CD ☘ ps Please leave me a short review wherever you get your podcasts 🖥
May 29, 2021
What's going on in the N Ireland housing market?
In this episode I welcome back, Propertypal's Chief Economist Mr Jordan Buchanan, who is no stranger to the show, and is always a very popular guest on the podcast.  It's been 6 months since I last spoke to Jordan, and much has happened since then. The fact remains that the NI housing market appears to be booming, with properties going sale agreed within 40 days, over 3300 properties going sale agreed in April just past, which is a 47% increase on the 3 year average. However it can't always be rosy in the garden, despite what estate agents are saying🤔  In this conversation Jordan yet again goes deep on the data driving the market in N Ireland, and we also have a good chat about some of the challenges we face locally namely infrastructure issues, construction finance, supply problems, and the fact housing inequality is rife across the market place right now.  Despite the worst recession in 300 years, and given the MMT (Modern Monetary Theory) approach from most governments, the housing market has remained incredibly buoyant and resilient, however how long will this last ? These are some of the issues we discuss in this weeks podcast.  I wrap things up congratulating Jordan and the team on the continuous progress of PropertyPal, which appears to be going from strength to strength. You can have a scroll through the site here ➡️  I hope you enjoy this episode, and remember to please leave me a review if you do and share the episode with someone you think might be interested.  ps ** Finally over on my Linkedin page I have been running a Money Clinic with Nick Leeson every Thursday. It's a 10 minute conversation about the financial markets and anything else that people might be talking about. You might enjoy these conversations, so feel free to check them out.  That's it for this week, have a great weekend and look after yourself, and each other, CD ☘
May 15, 2021
What's the story with BITCOIN Nick?
In this episode, it's all about BITCOIN. I don't know about you, but It would appear the dogs on the street are talking about Bitcoin, thats if they're not investing in it. For me, I am no expert in crypto currencies, but I am a student of human behaviour, and I am watching with interest how this whole Bitcoin story has evolved over the last few years. I now have quite a few of my community and friends who have bought into some of this BC, and over the last few months, quite a few of my listeners have been asking me to discuss the topic on the podcast. So I finally gave in, and thankfully earlier this week, I had a really great conversation with Nick Leeson, about his views on Bitcoin, and how he thinks, the crypto might develop over the next few years. From an investment point of view, my advice is to always only invest what you can afford to lose, and always move with caution when you are investing your own money into anything.   In this wide ranging conversation, Nick is very open with me, to the point where I get him to make a prediction as to where he see's Bitcoin might be valued at in 2025. I really enjoyed producing this week's episode and I hope all of you guys get some value from it. As always if you enjoy the podcast, I would love a two line review wherever you get your podcasts, and remember I would be very grateful if you share it with someone else, whom you think might be interested in the subject matter. If you want to reach me, best place is to email Have a great weekend and as ever all feedback welcome.  CD 
May 1, 2021
EP25: The Political, Economic, and Legal consequences of Irish Reunification ~ with Jim O Callaghan
Jim O Callaghan is a very highly regarded Politician in Republic of Ireland, who recently wrote a paper for the Sidney Sussex College, Cambridge, on Irish Reunification.  In this conversation I get an opportunity to discuss alot of what's in Jim's paper, but moreso, you will see from Jim's approach to our conversation, his passion and sincerity for doing what he can, to deliver upon the Reunification of the island of Ireland.  It must be acknowledged that this paper from a senior politician in Dublin is a significant development, and demonstrates that finally, the Irish government are now actually engaging in the Reunification discussion.  In what Jim is putting forward as an initial discussion document, I would encourage people to go to Jim's website, read his paper, and share it with family and friends.   An excellent ruby player in his former years, representing Ireland at U21 level, along with London Irish and others, and a barrister by profession, Jim is now a backbench TD in the Fianna Fail party in Dublin, and is currently the elected TD for Dublin Bay South, since 2016.  I find Jim to be an excellent communicator, a straight talker, and very deliberate in his approach to this topic, but along with this, incredibly sincere and also empathetic. These are not often conclusions I have been able to reach about politicians, particularly in the current political environment.  I thoroughly enjoyed this conversation and I hope you also get some value from it. If you enjoy my podcasts, please leave me a review, and also if you would be kind enough to share the pod with with people you think might have an interest in the subject matter. You can reach me at if you have any questions for me, or alternatively if you think of an excellent guest for Money & Plants, please let me know. Until next time, look after yourself, and each other CD
April 11, 2021
EP24: Republic of Ireland / Northern Ireland - Who is better off?
In this episode of Money & Plants, it is the first, of what I hope to have, in terms of a number of conversations with people, discussing the whole idea of a United Ireland, and all of what that might contain.  The constitutional question surrounding Northern Ireland has very much raised it's head with an incredible amount of intensity, ever since the BREXIT result for the UK to leave as a block, from the European Union.   This despite the fact that the majority of people in Northern Ireland voted to remain in the EU.  This alone was always going to unnerve many people, and over the last few years, we have started to see alot of the things, that so many people warned against, starting to play out. Seamus Mc Guinness is an academic, a reserach professor at ESRI and an adjunct Professor at University College Dublin.  In the last twelve months, Seamus and his colleague Adele Bergin have released two papers around the impact of Brexit on Northern Ireland, and also a body of work which has compared living standards between people who live in Republic of Ireland and Northern Ireland. In this conversation I talk in detail to Seamus around some of his findings, and without giving the game away in this intro, all I will say is that the Republic of Ireland's economy has been transformed over the last thirty years, and this has led to that society being transformed in that timeframe. Most people accept there is going to be a unity referendum in N Ireland in the next number of years, so that means, these kinds of conversations are so important, as they allow us to separate FACT from FICTION. One of the concerns I have in the upcoming years is the fake news campaigns which will be in full swing to campaign for the different outcomes to any polls.  We must all do what we can to not allow this to happen.  In this podcast, I will be doing my very best to be only facilitating conversations which have been fact checked and can therefor add value to people, and help them understand the process which is currently evolving. I hope you find this podcast interesting, educational and even inspiring in parts. If you have any questions around any of this or another matter, best place to get me is  I would encourage you to follow Seamus on twitter and check out his last two papers on this topic. Finally thanks to the sponsors of this week's podcast GDP Partnership  In the meantime, have a great Easter, and make sure you look after yourself, and each other. CD 
April 2, 2021
EP23: The Million Dollar Irish Man
From John Street to Wall Steet.  In this special episode of Money & Plants I get to speak to Omagh's Chris Mc Gale about his fantastic new memoir, The Million Dollar Irish Man. Chris lived a life of ‘fight or flight’ but always chose to fight.  His memoir tells of a remarkable journey from being bookies-runner at his family’s Irish pub in Omagh, to mega-stakes gambling, and to a dazzling City career with the Wall Street giant Merrill Lynch. Along the way he nearly died in a collision with a lorry and his fundraising for the Omagh Bomb victims led to a nomination for the New Year’s Honours List.  In this conversation I ask Chris about a re-occurring theme in his life... Trauma, and how he was able to deal with that over the course of his life.   In what is a free flowing conversation, Chris's passion, humility and strength of character shines through. From addiction, to the troubles, to making a million dollars a year, we squeeze all of this in, and much more in this conversation. There are lots of takeaways from this episode, and also for me on a personal basis, it was really interesting to hear the advice Chris would give today, to his 30 year old self. I really enjoyed producing this episode and I am hoping given the nature of our discussion and the subject matter, that there is huge amount of value in it for you the listener.  I hope you enjoy, Finally, I will be launching a new series of the podcast in two weeks time, which is something I have been working on over the last few months.   It is a big topic and I have some really interesting guests lined up. If you want to get in touch with me, please email Finally if you enjoy this episode, please let me know, share it with a friend, and if you have a minute, I would be very grateful if you had the time to leave a quick review, wherever you get your podcasts. Until next time, look after yourself, and each other. CD ☘ ps To get your copy of Million dollar Irishman ➡️
March 27, 2021
This is an emergency podcast, as I wanted to raise awareness of the seriousness of the subject matter.  We all know and recognise that the pandemic has caused all kinds of pain and anxiety across society, but one demographic who continues to suffer disproportionately one might argue, by decisions being made on their behalf, without any evidence supporting such decisions, is that of our children. (who don't have a voice) In November 2020, Co.Derry based Criminal lawyer Mr Stephen Atherton launched a legal case in the High Court against the Department of Health, on the basis that the decision to ban all outdoor sport for children was wrong and illegal.   In the last two weeks myself along with 50 other sports people from NI signed a letter to support this initiative, which has went to the NI executive.  Local journalist Brendan Crossan and All Ireland Winning Footballer Aidan O Rourke, have been with Stephen in this campaign from the off, and they are all trying to get this decision overturned. In this show, I have a terrific conversation with Stephen, who sets out all of the arguments he has made, and will be making to the court, at the hearing scheduled for the 18th March 2021. I get that all of this is complicated, but if we are designing public policy around this pandemic, and our politicians want to take people with them, who buy into the arguments and policies for such strict measures and restrictions, then surely one is right and just to request the evidence, that would support the introduction of said measures.  The problem for the Department of Health is that they are yet to present any evidence whatsoever, that by children playing outdoor sports, has contributed in any way to the spread of COVID19.  Therein is a problem!! Before my conversation with Stephen, I welcome two very special guests onto Money and Plants in the form of my own two kids, Lilyanna and Conor Junior. I thought it would be interesting to hear from the kids at this juncture, as to how they have been feeling about not getting to play their sports, meet up with their team mates, and what impact this pandemic is having on them.  Finally the call to action here is important.   If you agree with Stephen and this initiative, then contact your local MLA, send them an email, phone or text their office and let them know you want your kids outdoor sports to be returned in a managed and controlled way immediately.  I support the guys and wish them all well with this.  If you would like to contact me about any of this, or any other matter, you can at If you enjoyed the show, please let me know:) - and maybe you would be able to leave me a quick review, wherever you get your podcasts.   I would appreciate it.  I look forward to producing many more interesting shows over the course of 2021. Take care,  Conor ☘
February 16, 2021
EP22: Nick Leeson talks about his new company, the elephant in the room (Debt) and what Success means to him.
Former Rogue trader and Barings banker Nick Leeson is back on the show. Nick was my first guest way back in April, and it was good to pick his brain again regarding what's going on right now.  We talk about Covid, the economic impact, the importance of the vaccine roll out, the elephant in the room which is the debt bomb growing week on week,  and also, Nick shares with us how we all might deal with stress and anxiety.  Having spent 6.5 years in prison and overcoming Cancer twice, Nick knows a thing ot two about dealing with adversity. It's a wide ranging discussion with lots of value. We finish up the conversation talking about success, and the importance of having milestones when trying to navigate through the trials and tribulations of debt.  Make sure you follow Nick on line for his updates on the economy and markets etc.  In my thought of the week I talk about the relaunch of my recovery restructuring business GDP Partnership, and our Pandamic Recovery Team.  Given the challenges the business environment face next year, we have decided to reorganise ourselves to try and help people get through 2021. There is no doubt there will be much pain ahead for the business community, and given the fact we have a multi disciplined team in house and we have helped hundreds of people in the past come through the last crisis, we felt compelled to help, and we are looking forward to getting started.  For more information check our website at  In the second part of my thought of the week, I talk about a meeting I was invited to earlier this week regarding the economic benefits of a United Ireland. This debate is now playing out across the island, and as things start to pick up, the importance of people contributing and taking part is now key.  I have been tracking this discussion since the Brexit vote in 2016, and the argument for an economic United Ireland is quite compelling.  My own view is we now need to see people, probably from the Unionist side, to start and articulate what the key arguments are for NI to remain in the Union.  The Good Friday Agreement allows for a unity referendum at the request of the British Government.  The condition being they must deem there to be enough interest in N Ireland for that to be held.  There is now a huge groundswell of opinion towards that school of thought, given the backwater status Brexit puts NIPLC into. My suggestion to everyone is to get involved and take part.  It's our children's futures we are talking about - not our own.  If you enjoy this show, a review would be super wherever you get your podcasts.  Again look after yourself, and more importantly each other ! CD ☘  **You can reach me at
December 10, 2020
EP21: Money is an Illusion - What's going on in the Bond Market Jim ?
If like me, you know very little about BONDS, and the BOND MARKET, and you would like to increase your knowledge in this area, well, I take the show to London this week and speak to Britain's best known Bond Investor, Jim Leaviss. Bonds are the arteries of our economy, as its through this asset class, that government's are able to raise money to pay for and invest in capital infrastructure projects, our schools, hospitals and much more. Jim is the CIO of M & G's Public Fixed Income team in London. Anything Jim doesn't know about BONDS, isn't worth knowing. In my thought of the week, I discuss the new lockdown, which to be honest, isn't really a lockdown. It's pretty unfair on our small business economy, that the executive hasn't been able to deliver a plan that protects the heart of our economy as opposed to facilitating the ultimate closure of many of these businesses. Finally, if you enjoy this episode, please leave me a review wherever you get your podcasts, and also share it with someone you think might be interested. Until next time, look after yourself and each other CD ☘ 💻
November 27, 2020
My conversation with Chief Economist of the excellent PropertyPal portal, Jordan Buchannon, proved extremely popular with my listeners last week. As I did with a  previous episode, and given the fact we covered quite bit of ground, I decided to produce a "BEST BITS" where I broke my longer conversation down into seven main takeaways. The housing market is of interest to so many people, my own view being, the more each of us understand money, finance, debt, mortgage products, interest rates amongst other things, then the better decisions each of us will make in life, and in relation to things like investments and properties we might want to buy.  I hope you enjoy this new theme in the show, and as ever, I would love you to share it with someone you know has an interest in property. Last thing - if you like the show and listen to it often, it would be great if you would leave me a review wherever you get your podcasts. Look after yourself, and each other. CD You can reach me at 
November 18, 2020
What is going on in the Housing market?
One of the great mysteries to many people right now, is how resilient the housing market has been, despite the fact the global economy has come to an abrupt STOP. House prices and house sales continue to remain buoyant in Northern Ireland, which ties in with the trend across Western Europe and the US. In this episode I get to check back in with the Chief Economist at the Propertypal portal, Mr Jordan Buchannon, whose team have been tracking all of these developments in the housing market, over the last few months.  This is Jordan's third appearance on the show, and its another very informative conversation where we discuss the level of sales in the market place, pricing, availability of mortgage products and what might be driving the current dynamic. It's a very interesting conversation and I'm pretty sure you will get some value from it. In my thought of the week -  it's back to Stormont and my frustrations with local politicians.   What we DONT'T need in N Ireland, is for the local executive to collapse.  However and unfortunately, the way things are going right now, who would be surprised? I send a message to our local politicians, as its solutions, compromise and a more measured approach required in bucketloads, if we are to keep everyone on board, during what is the toughest of times. As ever I get a health message out on this episode, and it's to remind you to supplement Vitamin D over the winter months.   Do your own research in terms of the daily amount of this super drug, but make sure you are including it in your daily program, along with good food and sound sleep. If you enjoy this episode, perhaps you would leave me a review wherever you get your podcasts. You can reach me on  Looks after yourself and each other CD
November 13, 2020
ANGRYNOMICS - The Best Bits 👊
Last weeks conversation was so good and so important, I decided to make a compilation of the best bits of the conversation I had with Eric Lonergan.  There are so many people who don't understand money, how it works, and how a government should and can react to a National Emergency, but ERIC is not one of those people. The co-author of the fantastic new book ANGRYNOMICS, has a fascinating perspective on all of these things.   If you find any of what I do interesting, I think you should consider alot of what Eric is discussing in our full conversation in EP17. This is a new feature of the podcast, a shorter, more succinct version.  If it works and is well received, it's something I will develop over the weeks and months ahead. If you want to sponsor a show, get in touch. Look after yourselves and remember, do something everyday that makes you STRONGER and builds your immune system. CD
November 3, 2020
ANGRYNOMICS - Why are people so angry?
In this episode I get to speak to Hedge Fund Manager, Economist and writer Eric Lonergan, about all things MONEY related and also about his new book ANGRYNOMICS.  In what is a super conversation, I get to ask Eric some really fundamental questions like  1. Where does money come from?  2. Who controls the money supply  3. Why are people so angry.  It's a fascinating conversation which sets out why so many people feel so disenfranchised from society right now.  This conversation is one of the most important I've had yet on the podcast. Eric is a very thoughtful, educated and articulate person, and I got so much myself from this conversation, alongside the value I got from the book.  I hope you do too.  In my thought for the week I recommend a new book for you, THE CHOICE by Edith Eger.  Given the times we are in, my view is we need to do everything we can to BUILD UP our immune systems as everything going on right now is suppressing our very existence. The life story of Edith Egar, and how she turned the pain and trauma in her own life, into a strength, which allowed her to go on and achieve her own goals and aspirations in life.  It's a truly inspiring book and what an incredible lady Edith is. Finally, please keep sharing the podcast, the feedback has been great, and I have some wonderful guests lined up over the next few weeks, so keep the feedback coming in. Have a great weekend all, and look after yourself and each other. CD 💰🌾You can reach me at 
October 30, 2020
EP16: #UNFIT The Psychology of Donald Trump 🇺🇲
In this weeks episode it's all about the upcoming Election in the USA and a new film, which has just been released, #UNFIT The Psychology of Donald Trump.  In the main body of the podcast I have a fascinating conversation with the award winning Documentarian and film producer and executive producer of this film, Mr Dan Partland. In what is a super conversation we talk about Dan's motivations around making the film, the contributors to the film, and then about the rise of Authoritarianism across the globe.  It really is a fascinating insight into Mr Trump and the direction his Presidency has taken the USA, and really interesting how they have tried to compare what is happening right now in the USA, to previous dictatorships in Italy under Mussolini, and Germany under Hitler.  In my thought of the week in this episode,  I discuss a recent concern I have around the new phrase I have came across in the last few days "rolling lockdowns".  I think its incorrect to be putting Health and Economy together as some kind of pandemic choice, when the actual definition of economics and our economy centres around people, the behaviour of people, and how we exist and live day to day.  As I have mentioned on the show now a couple of times, this pandemic is entering a new phase, one I predicted a few months ago, and with no sign of it subsiding anytime soon, we really need a more cohesive, inclusive approach to dealing with and living alongside this pandemic.   We simply cannot create this hierarchy of deaths and destruction, which is now playing out as a result of the pandemic and many governments approach to it. I am hopeful that as things progress, this will be the natural direction of travel over the weeks and months ahead and we will all be in a much better place.  This weeks podcast has been sponsored by Clearpath Finance - If it's funding you need, get in touch with my team at  Whatever you are up to, look after yourself, and each other. CD You can email me at 
October 23, 2020
Lets have a chat with the Finance Minister, Conor Murphy 🎤🎧
This is a special edition of the podcast, where I get to speak to the Finance Minister, in the N Ireland Executive.  In what is a wide ranging and very interesting conversation, I speak to Conor about the role of his department, it's responsibilities to the executive, and what is expected of him in terms of his own skills and characteristics, to fulfil the job to the best of his ability.  We then discuss what it costs to run N Ireland, what we collect in taxes and also what the subvention is from Westminster, according to the office of National Statistics.   Conor goes into some detail around this, and highlights the fact that it's now accepted amongst many in political life here, that it is actually very difficult to find our what exactly is the cost to run N Ireland, as the exercise is carried out for accounting purposes only, by London. The vagueness around this cost, be it £6BN and £10BN is something that will require further investigation and need solving, particularly when most people accept we are a few years away from a border poll on the island, which may change the constitutional position of N Ireland.  We then lift the bonnet on the funding provided by the British government to deal with the cost of Covid to our economy,   The Finance minister again, is very open with the figures, and sets out we have received £2.2BN to date from London, and that this money has to last to the end of our financial year, which is March 2021.   I put it to the Finance Minister that this sum of support falls way short of what other countries have access to, namely Republic of Ireland and Austria, which he agrees with me on, airing his frustrations around same.  One of the most concerning take aways for me, at this point of the conversation, was the fact that the British government are simply not investing or putting in place the right level of support for our economy and country to survive and thrive over the next few years. I was alarmed to find out that the Stormont executive had agreed a new level of funding in January 2020 with the British Government in the "New Decade New Approach agreement", given the previous nine years of austerity, only for the British government to reneg on those commitments within a few days.  These kinds of moves and the lack of financial support is deeply concerning and should be for all of us.  We wrap up the conversation by Conor telling us that it is the "deficit of the lack of determination, which is the main reason why he is in politics." A keen cook, a passion for exercise and the outdoors, Conor finishes up our conversation telling me that its his family life, that makes all of this worthwhile. I really enjoyed this conversation, and I hope you do to. If you want to contact me, you can get me on  Thanks to CLEARPATH FINANCE - the sponsors of this episode Look after yourself, and each other CD 💰🌾
October 16, 2020
Emergency Podcast : We have to save the Irish League
EMERGENCY PODCAST  Did you know that the very existence of so many local institutions - football clubs, playing in N Ireland's top soccer league,  is now under a serious and profound threat. The pandemic has ripped through our homes, our businesses, our relationships, and changed absolutely everything in the past 8 months.   Given many are now saying we are approaching a wave 2, the impact continues to be severe right across the world. A few weeks ago someone brought it to my attention that many of our Irish league clubs are close to going out of business.   Some of these clubs have came through both World Wars in the last hundred years, and our own troubles here in N Ireland, but are still standing today.  More than that, they are at the epicentres of our communities, and huge net contributors to society. The harsh financial reality is that the pandemic has meant that up to 90% of all income has stopped going into these clubs, which could leave a black hole in excess of £10M in this coming season. In this podcast, I get to speak to the Chairman of Cliftonville Football club, which was founded in 1879.   Gerard Lawlor, sets out in very simple terms that the club is calling for government financial support, before it might be too late.   "This is about keeping community Institutions in existence" says Gerard, who is also the Chairman of the Northern Ireland Football League. The Northern Ireland Football league is the largest sporting employer in N Ireland with over 400 employees who take away c. £5.5M in salaries that goes straight back into our economy. The league is due to start next week, and at of the time of recording, there is still no government financial support in place. Warrenpoint Businessman and Chairman of Warrenpoint FC, Connaire Mc Greevy echoes Gerard's calls for government assistance.   His club's finances like everyone else's has been decimated by Covid19, losing up to 85% of sponsorship.   Without government support, they are starring bleakly into a six figure black hole in their accounts. There is 15 teams at the club, and they have over 500 people involved on the playing side to include the kids.   This club, is at the very heart of everything that is good about Warrenpoint, and N Ireland. My last stop on this pod is at my old club Dungannon Swifts, where I get to speak to Vice Chairman Jarlath Faloon. I spent a number of years playing at Dungannon, so I know on a personal level, the incredible work that club does every year for the community. The Swifts club is owned by its members and given all revenue comes from bar takings, functions, gate receipts and sponsorship - well, they are running on thin air right now, with players salaries to pay alongside all of the other costs that don't disappear. This is a very grim picture being painted by these guys, BUT, the good news there is a SOLUTION AVAILABLE. On this pod I discuss how we can solve this problem, and why the N Ireland executive need to pick the baton up and GO TO LONDON AND SECURE A COVID RECOVERY FUND. NOW!! The idea that there is no money is simply UNTRUE. The Bank of England has already said it is willing to provide the money to fix the problems caused by COVID. Our local politicians now need to go and secure the fund which will not only save these clubs from extinction, but will secure and help build our broken society and economy.  This is urgent, and I hope the Executive listen, and ACT accordingly and IMMEDIATELY. If you enjoy the podcast, please share it with a friend and leave me a review wherever you get your podcasts. Look after yourself, and each other. You can contact me at   CD
October 7, 2020
#EP13 National Debt, Wealth Tax, Non performing loans & Brexit End Game
Another action packed episode with excellent contributions from the returning Professor Stephen Kinsella, Chief Economist at The Currency and of University of Limerick, and making his first appearance on the show, Mr Seamus Lehany, of Logistics UK.  In my conversation with Stephen, we talk about the current economic crisis, and I ask the question is it too early to talk about the recovery, and what that might look like ?  We also chat about the Republic of Ireland's National debt position, and why it's kind of really very similar to an interest only mortgage.  We then discuss the cost of the pandemic to the Irish economy and who pays for it. ,  It's now very clear we are entering another banking crisis, only 12 years after the last one, and in this part of our conversation, Stephen and I lift the bonnet on the deeply concerning non performing loan positions every bank in the country now finds itself in.  My second guest this week, and making his first appearance on the show is Mr Seamus Lehany, the policy manager of Logistics UK.  If you have been following the Brexit shenanigans at all over the last 12 months, you will most likely have came across Seamus contributing to the conversation on behalf of the business community.  With less than 100 days to the Brexit deadline for a deal, I ask Seamus to set out the best and worst potential outcomes for N Ireland. Seamus is well over the detail including the numbers involved in terms of the total trade N Ireland does with the EU, the Republic of Ireland and the UK.  It really is an interesting discussion and one I'm sure you will find value in. In my thoughts of the week this week, I talk about three things occupying my brain of late, namely (1) children going back to school, (2) the return to the office and finally (3) my own views on Brexit.  I close this episode sharing some of my frustrations with the unbalanced nature and reporting of this pandemic. I am in a very privileged position in that I get to speak to so many different people on a daily basis, and the general consensus from the people I am speaking to is that there is a deliberate overplaying of FEAR being pushed right across our communities right now, which is having a really detrimental impact on peoples mental and physical health.  For some reason every mainstream media platform continues with this approach, as opposed to advising people as to what they might want to do, to help build their own immune systems and fight any virus.  To this end, I share a number of things we should all consider doing including supplementation, exercising, and good sleep, that will build your immune system and help you fight illness. I hope you enjoy this weeks episode, and if you can do me a favour and share the podcast with just one other person you think might be interested in some of the content. Finally thanks to this weeks sponsors CLEARPATH FINANCE.  For more information go to  If you want to contact me, email: Look after yourselves, CD
September 25, 2020
John Hume, The Credit Union and the Housing Market in N Ireland
In this episode, I take the opportunity to share some of my thoughts on Mr John Hume, who passed away after a short illness at the beginning of this week.  Many people in Ireland see John Hume as being one of island's greatest human beings, and the work he did in relation to facilitating and delivering PEACE to this island, cements his place in history.  However, how many of you knew, John Hume was one of the founding partners of the first Credit Union in Ireland. I talk about this, and how important a role, that organisation, John and his colleagues set up in Derry, in the 1960's, continues to be in today's society.  In my thoughts this week, I also talk about the recent announcement of kids going back to school, why it's so important we all get back to work, and finally why the NI EXECUTIVE need to agree a COVID FUND with the British Government asap, to protect our economy.  My guest this week sees the return of the Chief Economist at Property Pal, Jordan Buchannon.  This is Jordan's third appearence on the show, and yet again he shares some really interesting recent data on what's been going on in the housing market in N Ireland in the last couple of months.  We venture into many areas in this conversation, including talking about why it's so important banks keep providing mortgage products throughout the recession, and that by keeping credit flowing, it will protect our housing market.  We also discuss why it's so important people get back to work, and start to support as many local businesses as possible asap.  We finish up our conversation on a positive note with some of the most recent economic data, which has just been released, so I hope you enjoy this conversation.   This episode was sponsored by CLEARPATH FINANCE, N Ireland's No.1 Alternative lending platform.  If you need help with business finance, get in touch with Clearpath at   Finally, I really enjoyed writing, producing and editing this episode, and if you enjoyed it, and you have a minute, please rate it or leave me a quick review wherever you get your podcasts.  If you want to get in touch with me, drop me a mail at -  Enjoy your weekend, and speak to you again soon. CD 💰🌾
August 8, 2020
The Law is Not Logical it's just Legal
In this episode, Money & Plants goes to Australia and talks to Professor Jack Anderson of the Melbourne School of Law, about the recent Manchester City legal case with Uefa. In a wide ranging conversation, Jack sets out the case, and how UEFA simply ran out of time, allowing City off the hook.  We also talk about the financial impact of the Pandemic on sport right across the world, discussing the ongoing financial challenges at Barcelona FC, and what the future might look like, in terms of the need for clubs to re-think the way they run their organisations on a financial footing. In the second part of the show I talk to Associate Professor at UCD Aidan Regan, about the most recent Apple courtcase with the European Union, which dominated the front pages of many of the world's leading financial newspapers in the last few days.  This was a huge win for both Apple and the Irish government, and in my discussion with Aidan, we run through many of the main issues and the potential ramifications for the current government in Ireland. It turns out this case is more about the wider Irish tax regime, and that in law, both the Irish government and Apple, have done no wrong.  The Irish tax payer might see this differently though, and we will see how all of this plays out, in the course of time. We also discuss the current marriage of inconvenience in terms of the 3 party coalition in Dublin, and why it may not see out it's full five year term.  This really was a fascinating insight into all of these issues, and I got great value from talking to Aidan. In my rant of the week, I talk about that old chestnut Brexit, which is now starting to raise it's head again.  With just over five months to the UK officially leaves the European Union, It looks like people might need to hold onto their seats, to we see how all of this plays out.  There is still no deal agreed with the EU in terms of trade, and in N Ireland in particular, the entire business community is hugely concerned about all of this, and rightly so. In this contribution, I share some of my thoughts on what lies ahead, and the fact that I believe we all need to increase our knowledge in terms of what's actually going on with Brexit, how it might impact our businesses and our lives, and the fact that we should all start to prepare properly for the inevitable border poll, which is likely going to happen in the next few years.   Over the lockdown I decided to carry out some more research on all of the issues we will be facing, and I share with you three books I have read of late, which has given me a much more thorough understanding of Brexit, the Good Friday Agreement and what a New Ireland might look like. I hope you enjoy this episode, and get some value from it.   If you would like to get in touch with me, email me at  If you would like to sponsor the show, again reach out to me by email. Thanks for your continued support. Look after yourself, and each other 💰🌾
July 19, 2020
The Sceptical Investor Should Wear a Mask
In this episode I was delighted to invite Money Week's John Stepek back onto the show. John was a guest on EP4 and was back by popular demand to talk about money, banks, inflation and so much more. John is the author of Sceptical Investor, and if you are interested in money and finance I highly recommend the audio copy, which will give you an insight into John's pedigree.  In this weeks "Rant of the Week" I share with you my frustrations by the political response to the Pandemic.  On a positive note, I also share with you my big idea to SAVE THE NI ECONOMY. I genuinely believe in what I have to say here, and have already spoken at a political level to some people, so I am hoping this idea, catches some attention - you just never know who might be listening to my podcast:)  In the health section this week, I was thrilled to get Dr Paddy Mallon on the show. Paddy is someone of great knowledge, and has been on the front line from day one, helping patients recover from Covid.  In his very easy to understand and calm style, Paddy sets out and shares some really important information on how we all must act in the weeks and months ahead.  He goes into detail in terms of where we are with a vaccine, the best way to stop this virus spreading, we talk at length about anti bodies, and that really it' s all down to each of us taking on alot of personal responsibility.  This is a powerful conversation with so much value. I would be really grateful if you would rate the podcast wherever you are listening and give me some feedback. Also I am now looking for a sponsor for the show, so if you think I am adding value, my own ethics and style represents that of yourself or your business, get in touch with me. The best way to get me is on email; Finally, this week I relaunched my website.  Why don't you go and take a look Take Care, CD💰🌾
July 9, 2020
Ep9: Economics, Intuition, Wave 2, human behaviour, Brexit, more Money for SMEs & Lifestyle Medicine
In this action packed episode, I kick things off with my rant of the week, where I share some of the things that have been occupying my brain in the last few days.  The topics I go into in EP9 are pharmaceutical companies and that old chestnut Brexit - which is now starting to raise it's head again.  I then push on to my first conversation, and this week I was truly delighted to welcome a new guest to Money & Plants in the form of Stephen Kinsella, one of Irelands brightest economic minds. A Professor of Economics at the University of Limerick and the Chief economist at the excellent Currency platform, Ireland's number 1 business resource, Stephen and I have a wide ranging conversation about Covid, wave 2, how we are at the most uncertain time of the pandemic alongside talking about the new government, and why there might be good news on the way for Irish SMEs.  We also have a very interesting discussion about N Ireland and how it's went from being the richest and most industrial part of the island, to now being one of the poorest parts of the island.  We finish off our conversation with two excellent book recommendations, so make sure you have a pen and paper handy, as I personally really enjoyed this conversation with plenty of takeaways.  At 1hr mark in the podcast, I welcome my second new guest to the show, the incredible Dr Monica Agarwall.  Monica is a Cardiologist and Professor of Preventative Cardiology at the University of Florida who specialises in disease prevention.  She is also an author, athlete, and proud mum to 3 kids, passionate about life, and helping her patients back to great health, through lifestyle medicine,   In this conversation Monica shares with us how she is changing the lives of her patients by introducing them to a new way to manage disease, and facilitate the healing process in the body - Lifestyle Medicine. This truly is a wonderful empowering conversation with such a remarkable lady, who is saving peoples lives.  Monica shares lots of her personal journey of how she thought at one time, she was going to teach religious studies all of her life and suddenly ended up a cardiologist, changing lives through lifestyle medicine.   She shared with me how many of her patients are now fellow physicians who go to her for help because they themselves have got sick and encountered heart problems, but they don't want to take the drugs.  Monica herself, had her own health challenge a number of years ago, and suffered very badly from rheumatoid arthritis after the birth of her third daughter. It was at this time her specialist told her she would be on drugs for the rest of her life, and tried to condition her to believe that the illness would likely progress, and she simply had to accept it. Unfortunately, this specialist didn't really understand Monica, her drive and faith she had in her own ability to not only overcome her condition, but to go on and thrive with her life, to a point where she is now symptom free, and on no medication.    This really was a very special conversation and I truly believe if any of you want to improve your own health, pay attention to this conversation, make some notes, and start to make changes in your own life.  If you want to grow old, happy and healthy, then I suggest you listen up. ** The reason I started this podcast was to share information with you the listener, that would maybe empower, educate and inspire you to make better choices in your own life.  I would like to thank everyone for all of the support as we have received well over 2000 downloads at this point. If you would like to sponsor the show, or have any other feedback, pls email me at Until next time, look after yourself, and each other, Conor
June 18, 2020
John Hume, Abraham Lincoln and Covid19
In this episode I kick things off with a speech from John Hume about Peace, Reconciliation, Respect and Difference. Given the hostile environment globally in the last two weeks, I thought it appropriate to introduce some hope into the show, and given the legacy John Hume has created, no better man to talk about such important matters.  I then go onto share a story about one of my hero's Abraham Lincoln, and explain one of the great skills he possessed which has cemented his place in American history. I think and hope this is one of the big takeaways from episode 8.  In the business section of this weeks show, I was delighted to welcome back Property Pals chief economist, Mr Jordan Buchannon to the show. Jordan and I went onto have another wide ranging conversation where we talk about the housing market, the availability of mortgage products, non performing loans,  and how important human behaviour is to the economy, as we start to open things back up.  We also talk about the future of the office market, and discuss the idea that some experts are openly stating that Covid19 might see an end to companies acquiring office space. It really is another thorough conversation on whats happening right now and how it might impact you, so have a pen and paper at the ready.  In the health section of this week's episode, I devote to explaining in more detail my recovery from MS, and the scientific evidence behind me walking away from medicine, against the advice of my medical team,  and instead implementing a lifestyle approach to managing my condition.   What I have learned over the last 14 years is that drugs are designed to manage disease, not induce health, we do that by changing our environment and completely changing our lifestyle. This episode will take me over the 2000 download point and for that I am truly grateful. The objective at the outset of this project was to create some content, and speak to some people who might inspire, educate and empower some of us to make better choices in life.  I know by the feedback I have received from some of you that I have achieved this, so it has already been a resounding success for me on a personal level and long may it continue. If you would like me to address any issue on the show, please get in touch with me.  Best place is at  In the meantime, look after yourselves and have a great week. Conor 💰🌾
June 9, 2020
Living well with Multiple Sclerosis on World MS day 30/05/2020
Today is World MS day, and In this episode I share with you a very personal journey of hope and healing, which relates to me living every day with Multiple Sclerosis for the past 14 years.  Whenever I was diagnosed with MS August 2007, I lost all hope, I thought my life was over as I couldn't find anyone who had anything positive to say about living with the condition. My neurologist advised I change my job to something less stressful, stopped playing football as I wouldn't be able to, and pretty much, conditioned me to believe that things were going to get worse.  It was a horrendous time in my life. Whenever one loses all hope in life, even existing and finding a reason to live becomes difficult.  Thankfully for me, and after many years of research and soul searching, in April 2016, I decided to change direction in my approach to managing my condition, implementing a complete lifestyle change to managing my disease and facilitate the recovery process in my body.  The good news is I have went onto make a remarkable recovery and my body continues to heal and repair every day.  I am now 100% free from all medication, I've completed 7 Ironman triathlons, and at 42 years of age, I am full of hope, life and optimism for the future.  This is a solocast,  where I share some of my thoughts and ideas on how each of us can turn a personal tragedy, into a resounding life success story. I hope you get some value from this episode  Keep the faith 💰🌾 PS I am very grateful for all of the support to date regarding the podcast, but this time I want to ask something of you.  If you enjoyed this episode, please send it onto someone you think might get some value from hearing my story.    You will be able to find more information about my story on my website   Thank you.  If you want to reach me, you can get me here; 
May 30, 2020
EP6: V, U or L shaped recovery? Viktor Frankl, Nick Leeson and Sleep
I open this weeks episode with a powerful clip from Viktor Frankl, a professor of Neurology and Psychiatry at the University of Vienna Medical school until his death in 1997. During World War 2, Mr Frankl spent three years at Auschwitz and other concentration camps.  Given the magnitude of pain, anxiety and adversity in society right now, I felt compelled to introduce you to Mr Frankl in this weeks episode.  I introduce a new feature of the podcast this week in the form of my "Rant of the Week".  This will be where I share some of my frustrations of the last number of days on the pod.  In this episode, I talk about the phenomenon around Mc Donalds reopening this week, in the context of over 16 million people dying of heart disease every year.  British Conservative Politician Mr Michael Gove also gets a mention in this section this week, so well done to him for that.  I'm sure he will be delighted, as I'm sure he is a listener, I move on to the main body of the episode where I get into the recovery of our economy and how that might play out. The economists tell us it can only look one of three ways, V, U, or L shaped recovery - but what does this mean, and how long might it be before we get things back to some kind of normality? This is a very difficult thing to predict, but already we have enough information to start to form some kind of opinion on this. I was delighted Nick Lesson makes his second contribution to Money & Plants in this episode, and yet again we have a wide ranging conversation about global affairs, and I get Nick's view on what the recovery might look like.   His views on this particular issue are very interesting, given his experience and knowledge of booms and bust cycles over the last thirty years. We discuss a range of matters including why what is happening in Hong Kong and China is important, and also why if there were to be a vaccine found in the next few months, that might help get Donald Trump reelected in November, at the Presidential election in the USA.  Nick, a huge mental health advocate also shares how he has bought a new bike and found a new love for cycling, and how his exercise regime is helping him deal with the lockdown.  The health segment in this episode is all about the important role Sleep plays in all of our health, and I set out very clearly, why it is so important we all start to get a better understanding of this. I share with you one of the best books I read last year, Dr Matthew Walker's "Why We Sleep" and encourage all of you to read it - I think it will help you.  The big takeaway I hope from EP6 has to be the message coming from Dr Frankl in the opening section of the show.   His message and the example he set in his own life is truly wonderful and inspirational. The fact it is possible to turn personal tragedies into human triumphs is something all of us should be aware of particularly in the times we are in.  His view that it is those people who are orientated towards a "meaning of the future" who are most likely to survive and thrive, is something I really would like you to have a think about and consider.  Finally I would like to thank all of you for listening to my show.  It's been quite the experience pulling all of this together over the last number of weeks from a standing start, and I am delighted so many of you are enjoying the podcasts.  Keep the feedback coming in, and if there is a way you think I might be able to improve the experience or maybe there is an important topic you think I should cover, please let me know.  Best place to get me is at  Until next time, look after yourself and look after each other. CD 💰🌾 Books recommended this week (1) Man's Search for Meaning - Viktor Frankl (2) Why We Sleep  - Dr Matthew Walker
May 24, 2020
EP5: MRI Scanner, Banks, unemployment, human behaviour and how we can build our immune system🌞
In this episode, I share a very personal experience at the beginning of the show.  I then have the pleasure of speaking to my first guest, Irish broadcaster Paul Colgan, about the current problems facing the Irish Banking system and Irish Economy.  We lift the bonnet on the non performing loan positions in AIB and Bank of Ireland, and also discuss the fact that the real figures of unemployment in Ireland right now, might be closer to 50%, if you include the income support schemes.  We finish up by discussing how any recovery will very much depend on human behaviour.  This will mean each of us have a decision to make, as to when we decide to return to any kind of normal behaviour, in terms of getting out and spending money again in bars, restaurants and travel etc.  In the second part of this episode, I make a swift pivot to health, when I interview one of Ireland's rising stars in the field of Science, Nutrition and Brain health.  Conor Kerley shares with Money and Plants everything we need to know about, what some refer to as the "wonder drug" Vitamin D.  What it does, why we need it and best place to get it.  We get into the detail and discuss the optimum level of vitamin D for adults and also children and discuss the differences in the types of vitamin D.   This is another action packed episode with two fantastic contributions.  Finally I need your help.  I have done five episodes now and I need some feedback! What do you like about the show, what do you not like? how can I improve it, and what topics would you like me to cover?  Best place to get me is to email  Thanks for the continued support  Look after yourselves and look after each other. CD💰🌾
May 15, 2020
How will Covid19 impact the Housing Market?
This week I go to London, Dublin and Belfast to get the view from three outstanding guests on what the potential impact might be on the housing market across the UK and Ireland as a result of Covid19.   My first guest is the chief economist at Propertypal in Belfast, Jordan Buchanon. In this wide ranging conversation we really get stuck into many of the factors that play a leading role in how our actual economy works, and why it is so important to keep an eye on what happens right across the planet, in terms of how it might impact us at home.  We cover the furlough schemes, try to map out any potential recovery, looking at the health of the banking system today, and why it is so important that our banks keep credit flowing. Jordan is over the data and I think you will get great value from this conversation.   I then chat to Money Week's John Stepak, which was another fantastic conversation.  John has been writing about finance, business and economics for over 20 years and coincidently, has just released his new book The Sceptical Investor.  In this conversation we discuss Johns view on what might happen within the housing market which is interesting, given John is known for calling the last housing crash in the USA in 2006, and is on record stating how that crisis at that time, would become much more profound, which it then did, in the form of the collapse of the American banking structure and the subsequent Global Financial Crisis.  There are some nuggets in this chat with John so make sure you have a pen and paper ready as he shares with me a number of characteristics that makes a truly great investor.  This was a super conversation and I can't wait to get John back on the show. Make sure you check out his new book and also have a look at the work him and his team are doing in their publication of Money Week.  My final stop in this episode was Dublin and Mr Karl Deeter. Karl is a regular contributer to Irish television and radio and is an expert in all things business, finance and property. He is also a proper entrepreneur, who is motivated to bringing change and solutions to his industry, which he is doing right now through his digital mortgage and insurance platform  In this conversation Karl admits he has got a number of things wrong in the past, but is reasonably optimistic about Ireland seeing this crisis out. He has the view that although house prices will reduce this year in ROI, they will stabilise next year and then increase again the following year.    This was another wide ranging conversation which looked at what is happening in the USA economy, the rise of TRUMP, also touching on some of the advantages the UK have in terms of making their own fiscal decisions and not having to get permission from the European Union.  All really good stuff and all in the mix when trying to figure out things like where a housing market might be heading.  It was fantastic for me to get three very unique takes on what the impact might be on the housing market and so much more from all of my guests.  I hope you guys get some value from it.  Look after yourself,  CD ✌🌾  If you would like to sponsor an episode of Money and Plants, feel free to get in touch with me.  The show is being really well received and being downloaded in over 15 countries already, which I am delighted about. I am also keen to support the `SME community in any way I can.  Best email is 
May 8, 2020
Covid19 - Who pays for it? Helicopter Money, Saving our SME's, Opening up our Economy and much more!
In this action packed show I welcome one of Ireland's top economists, author, journalist, documentary maker and broadcaster, Mr David Mc Williams onto the show, to discuss all things Covid19, through the lense of economics.   We touch on a range of matters, giving particular attention to how we might pay for the total cost of dealing with the pandemic, and also why it's critical we do all in our power to save the SME sector, which is at the heart of every community in Ireland. We also discuss the role of helicopter money, the central banks, and why it is so important we have an all Island approach to reopening our economy. It really is a fantastic conversation covering lots of ground and so relevant to everyone right now. I was also delighted to welcome Mr Colm Lauder onto this weeks show.  Colm is a senior analyst and heads up the research team at Goodbody's bank in Dublin, advising all kinds of property companies, REIT'S, and a range of other property investment vehicles.  This is another fascinating conversation where we talk about the impact of the pandemic on Ireland's real estate market and where the market might be heading in the next few months.  We dive into the different sectors of the market and the potential impact of the crisis on the rent levels in Ireland, yields, valuations, and even the actual leasing structures going forward.  There is so much uncertainty around right now, and it is very difficult to predict what might happen in the next few months, so this particular conversation with Colm is not to be missed, given his many years of expertise in this area.  I finish off this weeks action packed episode by pivoting into my health initiative for May 2020.  I have launched this initiative on my social media platforms and I'm hopeful some of you might join me in committing to getting healthier, stronger and becoming more fulfilled throughout the month of May.  There is enough negativity out there right now, so I think it's time to flick the switch and focus on our health.  Listen up to the five things I am going to be doing in May, and I'm asking you to give this some thought also, and why not join me.  Finally I want to thank the sponsor of this week show, Belfast's little piece of creative heaven, Born and Bred.  Voted by the New York times as one of the top 5 shopping destinations in the capital, I'm grateful to Linzi Rooney and her team for the supporting this weeks episode. Why not check the guys out at and support a local business.  They need all of the support we can give them. Until next time, look after yourself, stay positive and keep the faith.  CD
April 30, 2020
Is another Economic Catastrophe unfolding? Plus, what we can all do to stay free from the virus ✊
In this episode, I start to look into the potential economic repercussions of the pandemic and have a very informed contribution from journalist and author Paul Gosling. On the health front I share 7 things we can all do to build up our immune systems and protect ourselves from all kinds of viruses including C19. I hope you guys get something from this weeks episode. If there are any issues or anything giving you anxiety right now in relation to any of the topics discussed, drop me a mail or find me on my social channels. Have a great week 💰🌾✊
April 23, 2020
Nick Leeson - The original Rogue Trader's thoughts on Covid19 and how it might impact the world.
To kick of my first episode I couldn't think of a better guest than Mr Nick Leeson.  Over 25 years ago Nick was responsible for racking up over £832M of losses at Barings bank in Singapore, which ultimately led to the bank going bust.  Following a 4.5 year prison spell, he returned to London to try and piece together his life. In 2005 he moved to Galway and began to build a new life for himself. Today Nick talks about his life experiences to companies and at events right around the world.  He is an excellent communicator and in his own very humble and unique way, has a passion for helping people learn from their mistakes.  In this conversation, we speak a little bit about Barings, but more about what is happening right now in the world with the spread of C19, and it's potential impact both on a human and economic level.  Nick sets out some practical measures people might want to consider, given the fact we are all pretty much locked up in our homes right now.  The overriding message I hope you take from this conversation is that it's not what happens to you in life that is important, more how we all react to what happens, which will determine how all of our lives play out. I hope you enjoy this conversation. 
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