Contain Podcast
By BA
Parasociology podcast / multi project -- interviews, experimental research (3 plus hour) long dives, music and more. Exiting the change and documenting the uncanny since early 2020. Music from the show up on SoundCloud. WWW.CONTAINCONTAIN.COM
Contain PodcastAug 02, 2021
Ebenezer Group News Hour: Flannery Group, Haiti, Kurt Campbell/Nuland Replacement
New show where Barrett and Alex (Coolwater) untangle geopolitics, news, and twilight as a neo-exotica PI themed music duo.
Graphic by Anson Nguyen
Music by the Ebenezer Group w/ The Rockford Files
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Haiti, Jimmy BBQ Shevalier G9 Pierre Esperance NGOs Indigenous Symbolic power vs. Skyscraper building power Victoria Nuland resignation and replacement by Kurt Campbell, democratization of industry/backyard nuclear, SV Flannery group/California forward farmland purchases for new city, Gaza, Comely: danger of control through professional credentialing orgs, Oathtakers
181. (First hour) 21st Century Non-Cybernetics: Game Theory, Double Bind, Psychonics in Russia, a History of 'Thinking Machines' Pt. 2
This is the first half-for full 3 hour episode as well as resources, extra documents, and more plz subscribe HERE
Episode on the history of non/anti-cybernetics (Game/Automata/Double Bind Theory) developed in the UK, US, USSR, and China and what that means for us today: cognitive autonomy, surveillance, breaking out of the cyberculture, etc. Throught the 20th century complexity studies were conducted globally by social psychologists, computer scientists, and mathematicians in capitalist and socialist countries alike, and despite them all adopting the same trendy word at one point or another: "Cybernetics", that wasn't exactly what they were all just doing. And they certainly weren't aiming for the same outcome of streamlined logistical matrices--and depending on the cultural, social, and national context, sometimes aimed for the opposite!
180. (Preview) 21st Century Cybernetics PT. 1: A History of Feedback Loops
Part one of a series on Cybernetics of the Future aka "how smart people end up dumb". Instead of retreading well-told examples of the 20th century we go to Leibniz, Yuk Hui, U/ACC, Muller, Ampere, etc. to figure out its ambience and omnipresence in culture, politics, the human (?) spirit, and more. Not another Reddit Rundown of Project Cybersyn: this episode looks at a comprehensive view of the Feedback Loop and its place in general history (I Ching to creator burnout to shock jock pseudo-vitalism) starting with: Brunella Antomarini's excellent essay Translating Rationalism: Leibniz and Cybernetics, Tek Lintowe's amazing rant on Being Raw, Cliodynamics, Leibniz debunking both Newtonian Mechanism and Spinozist Nominalism, China's One Child Policy, didactic fashion shows, a history of mechanism
177. A History of Volcanoes: JMW Turner, Theory of Color, Starting Over
176. 2024 DesertIslandmaxx - Best Of *Preview*
175. Archive Fever - Ruby Justice Thelot *Unlocked*
*Preview* 174. Free Time III: Dissonance, Leisure, and Change in Showa-era Japanese Art, Post-War Satellites, and Today
Ok, we are back—this episode comes live from Osaka Japan, where we explore the free-time lost space age culture of the Showa era, the dissonance of post-WWII art, technology, Expo 70’, and how some of the lessons from the recent past can be applied to the present moment.
Parthenogenesis, cultural reform and the Showa era, artistic viability of the past, present/future, Americanized Japanese food, hikikomori incels and the extinction of futuristic coffee shops, the phenomenon of Tetsuya Yamagami cosplay and the death of Shinzo Abe, Experimental Workshop: post-war intermedia art collectives of Japan, Tate’s Light exhibition, Taro Okamoto’s Tower of the Sun: subverting the machine, soda corporations and their sponsoring of intermedia projects, Article 9: soft power, satellites, and the Cold-War, Computer Technique Group, IBM and early experiments in computerized art, Chuquimamani-Condori’s DJ E, Ekimae buildings, the synthesis of the modern and Old World, Chim↑Pom, The Unification Church, the LDP, and spiritual sales, "Adventures of the Eyes of Mr. W.S., a Test Pilot”, severe social withdrawal, struggle sessions, shrines and international pavilions, Expo Syndrome, Yung Lean’s glam rock album, + more…this was quite an adventure, had to put some of this stuff to the test and actually go there
Pt. 2 from the Volcano/Tropical Island coming up next
*Unlocked* 172. The Future's Not What It Used To Be Pt. 2
*PREVIEW* 171. May Contain Nuts: The First Four Years w/ bod [包家巷]
The project turned four for so bod [包家巷] proposed we do a rundown of every single episode of from 1 until 170 and "react" to each one - the good, the bad, the ugly - every single phase from this nebulous, undefined sociology project. Afterthoughts on what worked and what didn't work, who to trust, where things are headed, and more. From cult leaders to Soundcloud rappers to transhumanists and 21st c. philosophers-after 4 long years I have finally found out what this show is about.
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169. *Preview* The Future's Not What It Used To Be: Googie, Space Colonies, & The End of Criticism Pt. 1
3 hr 7 m dive into one of the 20th centuries most radical, transformative yet commercial art movements: Coffee Shop Modernism. Maligned by critics, yet beloved by the public - what did the architects of 'Googie' understand that we do not? Also the art of NASA space colonies (current MoMa exhibit), Bob's Big Boy, Monsanto/MIT/and Disney's House of The Future (1957), Armet and Davis, Swedenborgian New Church, the Theme Building at LAX + Philip Taylor Kramer's Unsolved Mystery, Richard Hamilton: Collage and Technology, Cars, The History of McDonalds, Art, Architecture, and the environmental crisis of the 60's / 70's, The intersection of technology, family, freedom, and America, the history and funding of high-brow art and architecture: who was paying these people?, Panns Fried Chicken, Walter Gropius, "Those were the days of struggling for something exciting and neon was rather new. We had neon everywhere,"...everyone has already achieved their 15 minutes of fame, the zeitgeist of places, R. Buckminster Fuller, how criticism got cucked, and more.
Video documentary and part two (McDonalds History) coming this month. Music by Barrett / Alex T., ending song by Mickey Newbury...skip introduction: start at 18 m
170. *Preview* Astral America: Baudrillard's America, Folklore, and the Murder of the Real - Zoyd Wheeler
Episode with teacher/all-around smart guy Zoyd Wheeler on the continued relevance of Baudrillard's funniest book America as well as his essays Pataphysics of the Year 2000 and Murder of the Real-tying it into the resurgence of folklore, fake aliens, funk brasilero, Halloween, and desert-horizontal.
168. A.I Mega Episode - Max (Reality Gamer) *Unlocked*
Comprehensive history of AI episode w/ Max Foley (Reality Gamer) (Harmless AI / Anti-Yudkowski)
Original release 8/28/23
the stupidity of E/ACC, RAND corporation 4.0, Van Neumann / Robert Oppenheimer, Game Theory, Corporate Surrealism, Andy Warhol: Cyborg, AI Alignment scam, Bayesian probability, Roger Bacon's Brazen Head, “There is no natural religion”, #BRG, scientific realism, and more...
PREVIEW: 167. History of Leisure Pt. 2 - Stonehenge Free, Expo 70', and the Rebirth of the American Dream
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4.5 hour sequel of A History of Leisure and Free Time focusing on lesser known movements, innovations, and countercultural operations of the 20th century - a consummate historical excursion into how we can redeem the Realm of Freedom in the 21st Century.
Robert Rauschenberg's Captiva Island getaway in post 68', Bell Laboratories, Experiments in Art and Technology, and Expo 70' in Osaka, Robert Maynard Hutchin's Civilizations of the Dialogue, Book Clubs, Feminism and the 6 hour work day, The UK Free Festival Circuit: Ritual Madness at Stonehenge ft. Ozric Tentacles, Utopian Communities during the Great Depression, how labor unions turned into "a carbon copy of capitalism", Taft-Hartley act, Frank Lloyd Wright pt. 2, FDR and the spiritualization of work...
166. A History of Leisure, Free Time, (and Nothing Else) - Part 1.
Part 2 is up now on Patreon
165 - I Love Everything About Nothing - @givingdirt *unlocked*
Rare first interview-mysterious southwest collage legend givingdirt explains the process behind his craft...set design for the imagination, Margaret Mead's Sex and Temperament: Three Primitive Societies, Hawaii, Mark Twain, National Geographic, rejecting art shows, anthropology, saguaro fetish, the desert, bestdancerliljontooreal, landscape architecture, I Need Fragile Things Around Me To Be Strong For. This was very inspiring.
*PREVIEW* 164. - Evolutionary Coolness - Stephanie LaCava
163. - Korean Military Vacation -@iankumming @audiogothh
Military veterans Levy and Jae come on for a special report on their time in the South Korean Army.
'The Army is the best way to find out who you are in this world' 'The Army is one of the last vacations a man can have'
대한민국 육군
Music from Extra Small - Nepotism Child
Ep 162. *Preview* - Fear of Kathy Acker - Jack Skelley
Musician, artist, and writer Jack Skelley comes on the show to discuss his lost classic work of fiction Fear of Kathy Acker out now on Semiotext(e), William Blake, Los Angeles, Mike Kelley, and more.
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Pt. 2 - Humiliation Ritual - Sven Loven & Dana Dawud
Parsing through 25 exabytes of data, a critical reassessment of "The Vibe Shift"-2 years later, the Miami Art Basel stabber inhabited by cybernetic entities, acculturation vs. folklore, the Film01 screening, aesthetic exchanges with evil, toxic online spaces, doxxing as a new form of portraiture, soft cults, digital eulogy, a post e-girl world, and more. "The right attention is no attention." Part 1. comes after part 2.
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160. - Q&A III *PREVIEW*
Some thoughts on being a cancer transplant donor + Q & A including Droopy Dog, creative advice, and more.
This is a preview, full episode on Patreon
159. - Archives of the Impossible - Camille and Faith (Texas Overture)
The ladies from my favorite podcast Texas Overture come on the show to discuss their experience of the Archives of the Impossible paranormal archive conference at Rice University amongst many other things: “In and Out of This World: Material and Extraterrestrial Bodies in the Nation of Islam” Forrest Bess, Topaz Mining, Skinwalkers at the Pentagon, and the mass turn towards paranormal and celestial interests.
158. - Baudrillard Live Pt. 2 - Study the Ether *PREVIEW*
Pt. 2- Applying Baudrillard's concept of the Fatal Strategy. Other topics: ether, anesthesia, The Waste Land, AI, the history of the mini-skirt, Emanuel Swedenborg's skull, Sophie Calle, baroque, alchemy, etc. lots of good stuff in this one.
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157. - Contain / Decode pt. 1 w/ Inherent It Girl & Cute Noumena
*PREVIEW* 156. - Baudrillard Live - Pt. 1 - Lookism (w/ Emmalea Russo)
First part in a series on Baudrillard Live - collected spontaneous interviews with writer Emmalea Russo, diving into his thoughts on the movie theatre, Los Angeles, fashion, fatal strategies, on-demand streaming services, what it means to be 'Post-Critical', lookism, and more clairvoyant 1980's observations from the Lt. Columbo of parasociology. The resurgence is as real as xerox…
Pt. 2 and 3. to come next month - thank you everyone
Ep. 155. - Confessions of a Mascot - JMU Duke Dog
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PREVIEW -153.- The Tyranny of the Mid - Vincent Lê & Eric Schmid
Pt. 1 of 4 - 152. Lysergic Computative Stalin: Images w/ Subliminal Jihad
Hour 1 of 4 hour investigative/synthetic special with Subliminal Jihad Full: www.patreon.com/contain Music from the episode: https://on.soundcloud.com/PamifH2kx93QVeYG6
151. - Reincarnation/Past Life Phenomena - Brad Phillips
Episode on the strange phenomena and para-psychology of reincarnation, life-after-death, and near-death experience recollection with my friend artist/writer Brad Phillips
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*Preview* 150. - Iron Butterfly: The Disappearance of Polymaths - Kantbot
148. - The Citadel: Gene Wolfe - M.E.S.H + DJH
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PREVIEW 146. - Geopoetics: Deepfakes in Deep-Time - Leszlek Stalewski
Full episode with links and bibliography up now on Patreon
Can a deep fake be beautiful? Episode w/ writer Leszlek Stalewski on Chat GPT3, AI, geopoetics and how natural developments still shape our cultural landscape. Kojeve's book Incarnating Beauty on Kandinsky and non-representational art and his view that it is 'more total and objective' than representational painting, how youth movements form (rap), why people entertain stupid new things to obtain funding, Goethe, deep-time, mineral substances, the fossil question of Agostino Scilla (the FQ), Brocken Specters, & more...an exploration on the creation of value, appraising the value that already exists.
145. - A Podcast Against The Spoken Word - Ian Svenonious (The Make-Up, Nation of Ulysees)
Contain Interview w/ Ian Svenonious (Nation of Ulysees, The Make-Up, Escape-ism, Soft Focus) about his new book, an anti-literacy polemic entitled Against The Written Word, 'the book to end all books'. From advocating for universal illiteracy to banning the phonetic alphabet, I.S takes us through an odyssey of the written word and all its consequences....
Lil Yachty as the new Little Richard, pioneering the conceptual talk-show, nostalgia Mcluhan, journalists: scribes of the oligarchs, lip syncing, analog sacrifice, covert op counter-enlightenment, digital photography disasters, Maoist anti intellectualism, slogans, how art has become the art critique, being (small s) 'conservative', and more.
“What happens when you reduce the world to words…art can’t exist in this environment, it reduces the world to legalese”
★PREVIEW★ 144. - Spiritual S*ros: Rituals, the SCCA, and The Influencing Machine - Aaron K. Moulton
Art Curator/Anthropologist Aaron Moulton comes on to discuss how art/media can become both a vehicle for social engineering and the communication of spiritual aspirations. He details his research into the Soros Centre for Contemporary Art, linked to the Open Society foundation and its introduction of Western/Neoliberal forms of artistic/social practice through the opening of 20 centers in the post-Eastern Bloc. The show he curated The Influencing Machine brings into question free will vs. determinism, the role activism plays in art, and how art becomes directionalized and purposed by NGOs and other coercive structures to suit their own agenda.
Other topics: Roma Witches in Bulgaria, Military E-girls, the introduction of socially engaged practice in contemporary art, AI interfacing systems vs analog creativity, the ‘permitted avant garde’ (trends, fashion), manufactured notions of creativity. esoteric knowledge, Seance Trickster Magic, secrets of the State Department and a lot more
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143. - Romance, Chivalry, Courage - Lawrence (Felt, Denim, Mozart Estate)
The elusive legend known as Lawrence (Felt, Denim, Mozart Estate), on fame, mystery, consumerism, his relationship with Martin Duffy (RIP) & Maurice Deebank, the history of Felt, cartoons, technology, how to not overexpose yourself, creating your own world, his three elements to cherish, the concept behind his new project Mozart Estate, & more. ‘I want to prove that being famous doesn’t mean you have to be a prostitute to media.’
Recorded directly from flip phone (he doesn’t own a computer or smartphone) using an advanced podcasting contraption, this interview has been in the making for months now. One of the biggest inspirations to Contain and one of the greatest lyricists of all time, there couldn’t be a better way to ring in the third birthday of this show.
Order his new album Pop-Up! Ker-Ching! And The Possibilities Of Modern Shopping. Thanks to Charlie Hannah and Matti from Cherry Red for helping make this possible. World as Soft As Lace cover intro/outro by Barrett.
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142. - PART 1: Action Movie Special - @mikeymdc
PT 1. : 2h40 minute quest into the world of action movies with Mikey MDC , from Heroic Bloodshed to Hong Kong Vengeance, everything from Barb Wire starring Pam Anderson to Sammo Hung to Future Kill and The Transporter to the Cinema du Look of The Professional. Examining the role action movies & representations of violence provide in an increasingly tedious, discursive, & pro-social cultural landscape. The militaristic boosts of Black Hawk Down to the propaganda of the China Film Group Corporation & Kung Fu Hustle. For full archive of episodes, bonuses, and more consider subscribing to the show on Patreon.
140. - Survivance / Did The CIA Fund Good Art - Dominique Althoff
PREVIEW 138. Geology Talk (Leibniz's Unicorn) - Kylie White - 1st 30
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Episode w/ artist/researcher Kylie White on archeology, unicorns: are they real?, Goethe's volcanic explorations and its role in Faust, Plutonism vs. Neptunism: who really won?, a Leibnizian rebuttal of Deep Geological Time, Scene Revival: a psy*p?, John Duns Scotus the post-naturalist, how James Hutton was the 18th century's version of Steven Pinker, why people are tearing each other down so much right now, uniformitarianism, is Space & Time even real, Scotland + more 🪨🗿🪨🗿🪨.
137. Theory of a Short-Wave Trend - Olivia Kan Sperling
Theory of a Short-Wave Trend with author of Island Time and Paris Review editor Olivia Kan Sperling. Is newness a natural function of the idealized image of desire or the economy? The post-historical aesthetic of Balenciaga (giving way to recent controversies), computer programming: the language of the other, learning to code, the stylized relationship to the self (from BAP to Instagram), fashion's use of theory language, Island Time, Sarah Fucking Snyder, Technometry, long-wave trends, Lacan, tearing the fabric of reality, political economy, & more...fascinating convo, learned a lot! For full episodes support &🌋subscribe here 🌻
☑️PREVIEW ☑️ 136. Non-Things: Upheaval in the Lifeworld - Byung Chul Han w/ Emmalea
164. - Poem of the River - @ikjfomo
w/ Ian Kim Judd of Nina
A look at Felt's Poem of the River (1987) and the career of Lawrence as well as Mayo Thompson, Art-Language magazine / collective, Terry Atkinson, language as art, box sets, fame, denim
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134. - Somatics - Zac Waltman / Hopper1000
131. - Autism w/ Tao Lin
First Part of Ep. 130 - Operation Appleseed: Dispatch from a 3D Printed Permaculture Commune
I went to a permaculture/black swan commune/additive manufacturing gun compound in Central Texas to interview one of its members, CAD gun engineer/designer Tom.
'Most people aren't worth spending any time with'
'The position is technological terrorism...engaging with techne to make certain regulations moot'
Doing the work actually existing nanobusiness grindset 100
129. Wild Bitches Party - Marika Thunder PREVIEW
127. Dry Talk w/ Coolwater (Return of Alex)
Alex aka Coolwater is back from seasons 1 + 2 for this very special episode of season 1 shock-collar therapy unhinged rants: Social Dynamic Hackers, TPot/Effective Altruism Burning Man AI Statians, Hacking Social Dynamic Vibe Camp Elders, Barbara Marx Hubbard, Steve Cokely vs. The Black Skull & Bones, Marketing Bros, Technometry, Maga Communism, Right Wing Pick-Me's, BRICS, Nathan Felder's Low IQ , All About Lily Chou-Chou, Walter Breen, Lars Von Trier's Manderlay + Samuel Beckett closed theatre, Liars
All music for this episode is unreleased Coolwater stuff. It's insanely good and you should buy his first CD . Ah man, it feels good to be back.
PREVIEW 126. Metadata, Geology, and Mormonism: American Utopian Experiments 2 - Ben Sang
After a short break to end last year’s run of shows we’re back with Ben Sang to talk Mormanism as a continuation of the American Utopia Series and the outgrowth of the offsite art movement in 2022. We go into the history of the Plutonist vs. Neptunist school of geology/volcanology and the life of Dolamieau, international playboy and geologist who inspired the blacksploitation movie Dolomite and was a member of Knights of Malta. Other topics: Archival Art, Nicholas Luhmen's Cybernetic Theory, Angel Maroni, Golden Plates, metadata, library arts and the structure of Memory, Maurice and Katya Krafft, Nancy Holt, Final Hot Desert, the utopia of Deseret and how all of this relates to this Very Weird moment we find ourselves in today.
Ep. 125: Mycelium Casket w/ Elusin
Ep. 144 *Preview*: Recessionmaxxing pt. 2-American Utopia w/ Ed Berg
Pt. 2 3 hr episode on Utopia and Crisis with Ed Berger (Pseudodoxology podcast) brushes on the history of American Utopian Communities (Mormons, Labadists, Owenites, Catholic E-Girls), their failures and successes, and long wave economic patterns…Carlota Perez, Techno Economic Paradigms, Alfred Sohn Rethel (Real Abstraction) and Finance Punk, the delinking of Gold from the Dollar, epic road trips, Plato & Deleuze, the eternal 1970’s, Apocalyptic Fantasies, the decadence movement…Ed introduces the concept of ‘Defluencing’, Global Peacekeeping and Nuclear Power, Deep Country Shamanism, The Human Potentiality movement, Hashish, frenetic standstills, ‘Lacanian Maoism’ (lol), the end of the microtrend and the introduction of the macrotrend…
“The microtrend in and of itself is like a tautology…each individual street trend is a discourse surrounding who started the trend in question, pure self referential, a hall of mirrors.” 🇺🇸 🍞 🏍
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Ep. 122: All That's Solid Melts Into Air w/ Matt Shaw
★PREVIEW★Ep.121: Mass Shooter Recovery w/ Zach Emmanuel (Countere)
Zach Emmanuel has explored the fringes of American life through his journalism for the mainstream press before working independently with Countere. From interviewing prison gangs to campaigning and doing the last John McAffee interview (weeks before he was ___), the man has had some wild experiences. His recent work tackles the subject of potential Mass Shooter recovery groups and the schizo-internet bodybuilding world of Dark Iron Gains. Other topics: Expert of the Card Table (Bernays) and the social matrix, Lake Chad and the greening of the Sahara/climate change, Gucci Mane, Native Ghost Stories, PETA activists, didactic garbage, spending 24 hours at a strip club and more.
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