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The Ordinary Christian Podcast

The Ordinary Christian Podcast

By Craig Thompson

A podcast dedicated to real people like you, seeking to live out your Christian faith in the ordinary aspects of everyday life.
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Episode 17: Barbell Christianity

The Ordinary Christian PodcastJun 10, 2020

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Episode 95: Choosing To Say No as a Parent with Adam Whiteside and Keven Newsome
Apr 16, 202401:01:12
Episode 94: A Theology of Exercise with David Mathis

Episode 94: A Theology of Exercise with David Mathis

In this episode of the Ordinary Christian Podcast, Craig Thompson interviews David Mathis about the theology of exercise. They discuss the importance of exercise in their personal lives and how it impacts their roles as husbands, fathers, and pastors. They explore the biblical metaphor of running and the idea of embracing difficulty for the sake of reward. They also touch on the different types of exercise and the importance of finding enjoyment in physical activity. Overall, the conversation highlights the connection between physical health and spiritual well-being. In this conversation, Craig Thompson and David Mathis discuss the importance of physical movement and exercise in the Christian life. They explore how our sedentary lifestyles can hinder our ability to glorify God and serve others. They emphasize the need for balance and moderation in caring for our bodies, avoiding both neglect and idolatry. They also discuss the impact of exercise on mental and emotional well-being, as well as its role in parenting and community building. Overall, they highlight the holistic nature of the Christian life and the importance of stewarding our bodies for the glory of God.

Takeaways

  • Regular exercise can make us better husbands, fathers, and pastors by increasing our energy levels and improving our overall well-being.
  • Embracing difficulty in exercise can train our will and help us develop discipline in other areas of life.
  • Different types of exercise, such as aerobic training, strength training, and balance training, all have their own benefits and can contribute to our physical and spiritual health.
  • Exercise should be enjoyable and bring a sense of playfulness to our lives.
  • The biblical metaphor of running can remind us of the importance of perseverance and finishing strong in our spiritual journey. Our sedentary lifestyles can hinder our ability to glorify God and serve others.
  • Caring for our bodies through exercise is a spiritual discipline that can enhance our mental and emotional well-being.
  • Physical activity can be a way to bond with our children and set a healthy example for them.
  • Exercise should be approached with balance and moderation, avoiding both neglect and idolatry.
  • Engaging in physical activity can lead to a more joyful and obedient Christian life.

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Sound Bites

  • “Exercise should be enjoyable and carry with it some play.”
  • “Running is a biblical metaphor, a promise.”
  • “In the midst of suffering, there is something good that’s going to come out as a result.”
  • “When you have easy access to Doritos, we are not concerned with gluttony.”
  • “I want to let my light so shine in such a way that others see my good deeds and give glory to my father in heaven. That’s going to take movement.”
  • “I have a responsibility. God’s given me this body. It’s beautiful. Well, it’s beautiful as it can be.”

Chapters

00:00Introduction and Personal Background

08:23The Theology of Exercise and its Impact on Daily Life

16:00Training the Will through Exercise

29:24Personal Responsibility and Stewardship

36:24The Importance of Modest Upkeep

44:06Living a Happier, Obedient Christian Life


Apr 12, 202453:36
Episode 93: Finding Joy in the Struggle
Apr 04, 202416:34
Episode 92: Bryan Plyler-Losing My Voice and Finding a Fuller Ministry

Episode 92: Bryan Plyler-Losing My Voice and Finding a Fuller Ministry

Bryan Plyler is a husband, father, aspiring angler, and the pastor of the River Church in Camden, SC. On this episode, Bryan shares about his recent health struggles that nearly left him without a voice and how God has worked in spite of that situation. He shares some helpful tips on anxiety and tells about lessons learned from hard spiritual struggles. The podcast closes with a good conversation on friends and how even friends of convenience are God’s kindness toward us and should be treasured.

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Mar 28, 202401:01:20
Episode 91: The Boys Are Not Alright. But They Can Be.
Mar 21, 202419:13
Episode 90: 7 Steps for Spiritual Discernment
Mar 14, 202420:11
Episode 89: God’s Hand in Difficult Days with Rob Tims

Episode 89: God’s Hand in Difficult Days with Rob Tims

Have you ever gone through a difficult season of life, only to look back and see God at work through the whole thing?

Rob Tims is a husband and father of four children. He is also the pastor of Beech Haven Church in Athens, Georgia. On this episode of the podcast, Rob and I dig into a period of intense struggle in his life that God used to refine him and give him a greater appreciation for the gospel. Rob explains how anxiety and depression can have physiological impacts. He also shares the difference between living for God’s glory and for man’s applause. Rob is very transparent about the struggles of his past, but also shares some great insight on how to avoid falling into those dark places yourself. Rob’s story also has a happy ending because the result of his struggle was a greater dependence upon the Lord and a return to healthy and fruitful ministry.

Your story can have a happy ending as well!

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Mar 07, 202456:03
Episode 88: Creating the New Testament Canon with Benjamin Laird

Episode 88: Creating the New Testament Canon with Benjamin Laird

Benjamin Laird is associate professor of biblical studies at the John W. Rawlings School of Divinity of Liberty University. He is a respected New Testament scholar and the author of several books. On this episode of the Podcast, I speak with Dr. Laird about his latest book, Creating the Canon: Composition, Controversy, and the Authority of the New Testament.

Dr. Laird explains the process of canonization and explains what canonization means (it is the process whereby the New Testament books were deemed to be sacred and authoritative–essentially, the process of those writings becoming the New Testament). We talk a bit about liberalism and higher criticism. Dr. Laird explains why inspiration, inerrancy, and infallibility are essential components to affirming the authority of the New Testament. If you have ever wondered where the New Testament came from and how we came to understand it as divinely inspired, this podcast is for you.

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Mar 01, 202451:41
Episode 87: The Burden and Gift of Living with Alan Noble

Episode 87: The Burden and Gift of Living with Alan Noble

Tremendous suffering is the normal experience of being in this world. Beauty and love and joy are normal, but so is suffering. Alan Noble is a professor at Oklahoma Baptist University and has written a fantastic book on the burden and beautiful gift of living. In, On Getting Out of Bed, Alan Noble encourages his readers to know that God loves them and that they are a part of his good creation intended to glorify God and enjoy him forever. 

On this episode of the podcast, Alan and I discuss the joys and challenges of living. We talk about how suffering is norma. Hopefully you can be reminded that just because your life is hard, that does not make you broken or unique. Life is often challenging, but you can and should continue to live abundantly even when you might not feel like it. You can’t always trust your feelings. You don’t always feel like getting out of bed. Sometimes, all you can do is the next thing, but even if the next thing is just getting out of bed, you can even do that for the glory of God and the good of others.

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Feb 22, 202401:01:55
Episode 86: Spiritual Disciplines as a Communal Way of Life with Jared Patrick Boyd

Episode 86: Spiritual Disciplines as a Communal Way of Life with Jared Patrick Boyd

Jared Patrick Boyd is a pastor, spiritual director, and founding director of the Order of the Common Life, a missional monastic order reimagining religious vocations for the twenty-first century. He and his wife have four daughters and live in Columbus, Ohio. On this episode of the podcast, Jared and I discuss his latest book, Finding Freedom in Constraint: Reimagining Spiritual Disciplines as a Communal Way of Life

As we discuss his book, we talk through the ways spiritual disciplines can be practiced in community. We consider how the beatitudes can be practically applied to help us know ourselves better and walk in deeper relationship with Christ. Jared also offers some practical tips on how you can begin to live more intentionally in community and suggests that the first step in a deeper spiritual growth may be a commitment to silence and solitude. If you are looking for way to grow in your relationship with the Lord or if you have ever wondered how ancient monastic principles could be lived out in modern life, this podcast is a great place to start.

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Feb 13, 202459:34
Episode 85: Healthy Habits as Spiritual Disciplines

Episode 85: Healthy Habits as Spiritual Disciplines

I've written several times on physical health in the past and just recently, I wrote on gluttony. On this episode of the Podcast, I try to merge the gluttony conversation with a few words about physical health and what it looks like to find balance. I hope you will join me as we consider the steps you can take to battle gluttony, and how 5+1 can help you to find joy and satisfaction--and maybe even help you to climb out of a funk.

Our spiritual health is related to our physical health, whether we like it or not. So, it is time that we get serious talking about it.

Feb 01, 202418:49
Episode 84: A Literary and Theological Inquiry into the News with Jeffrey Bilbro
Jan 25, 202458:23
Episode 83: C. S. Lewis in America with Mark Noll

Episode 83: C. S. Lewis in America with Mark Noll

Mark Noll is a retired professor of history and prolific author with a focus in history and the history of the church in America. His most recent book, C. S. Lewis in America looks at the reception of C. S. Lewis in America during and following World War II. In this episode of the podcast, Dr. Noll and I discuss Lewis, the need for academic rigor in evangelicalism, and the historical context behind Lewis's American reception. Along the way we learn how Lewis avoided politics and why he was more concerned for his soul than his success.

This is a fun conversation with a renowned scholar. If you are a C. S. Lewis fan, it is an added bonus, but even if you have never heard of C. S. Lewis, you will benefit from Dr. Noll's wisdom and insight. 

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Jan 16, 202438:29
Episode 82: Myths and Realities of Marriage with Lyman Stone
Jan 03, 202401:08:26
Episode 81: There is Joy in Your Trials

Episode 81: There is Joy in Your Trials

Recently, I wrote about anxiety, and it resonated with many of you. Most of you know at least a little bit of what anxiety can feel like. You have experienced struggles or worries. Some anxiety is over large things, often we can even be anxious over small issues. Occasionally, we can feel anxious for seemingly nothing at all. In the midst of anxiety, all sorts of little things can feel like they are piling up and threatening to smother you.

On this episode of the podcast, I speak about how God met me in the middle of all the things and reminded me that even trials come to mould me into his image. 

Our trials can even be places of joy when we remember that God meets us there.

2 Count it all joy, my brothers, when you meet trials of various kinds, 3 for you know that the testing of your faith produces steadfastness. 4 And let steadfastness have its full effect, that you may be perfect and complete, lacking in nothing.

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Nov 22, 202327:53
Episode 80: Sin and Redemption in Genesis 3 with Brian Owen

Episode 80: Sin and Redemption in Genesis 3 with Brian Owen

Brian Owen is the planting pastor of Grace City Church in Boston, Massachusetts. Brian has a heart for redemption and helps us to see the terrible fall of sin in Genesis 3, but the great hope of the gospel that is pointed to first in that passage of Scripture. Along the way we discuss the differences between Boston and Camden, we celebrate the joy of Waffle House and Cracker Barrel, and SmashBurger. Along the way we wrestle with some of the gruesome details that are often overlooked in teaching about sin and shame.

As you hear this conversation, please take time to pray for Brian, his church, and the city of Boston. Consider whether God might desire for you to join him in the work he and others are doing in Boston, Mass.

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Aug 24, 202357:37
Episode 79: Nancy Pearcey and the Toxic War on Masculinity

Episode 79: Nancy Pearcey and the Toxic War on Masculinity

Nancy Pearcey's latest book is The Toxic War on Masculinity: How Christianity Reconciles the Sexes. Her earlier books include Love Thy Body: Answering Hard Questions about Life and Sexuality,  The Soul of ScienceSaving LeonardoFinding Truth, and two ECPA Gold Medallion Award Winners: How Now Shall We Live (coauthored with Harold Fickett and Chuck Colson) and Total Truth. Her books have been translated into 19 languages. She is professor and scholar in residence at Houston Christian University. A former agnostic, Pearcey has spoken at universities such as Princeton, Stanford, USC, and Dartmouth. She has been quoted in The New Yorker and Newsweek, highlighted as one of the five top women apologists by Christianity Today, and hailed in The Economist as "America's pre-eminent evangelical Protestant female intellectual." 

On this episode of the podcast, Professor Pearcey discusses her motivations for writing this book and how she believes the war on masculinity is trickling down to impact boys of all ages. Nancy explains the underreported good news that committed evangelical Christian men are the best husbands and fathers on the planet. We also discuss how women have a unique perspective to speak into the masculinity crisis and how Darwinism and evolutionary psychology has the potential to perpetuate the sinful excuses of Adam. 

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Aug 16, 202301:05:16
Episode 78: Living for Jesus in an Unbelieving Family
Jun 22, 202322:07
Episode 77: Fostering, Adoption, and Orphan Care with Angela Thompson

Episode 77: Fostering, Adoption, and Orphan Care with Angela Thompson

I have written several times through the years about why you should be concerned with orphan care and shared some of our family’s story of adoption. On this episode of the podcast, my wife, Angela joins me to share about the needs for orphan care and to share a bit about our story. If you have ever considered orphan care as a possibility in your home, I know this episode can help you. If you have ever had a desire to help children in hard places but thought there was nothing you could do, make sure you listen in for all the ways you can support orphan care, even if you do not have the ability to welcome children into your home.


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Jun 15, 202358:11
Episode 76: Practicing Self-Awareness with Terry Linhart
Jun 07, 202342:36
Episode 75: C. S. Lewis for a New Generation with Louis Markos

Episode 75: C. S. Lewis for a New Generation with Louis Markos

Louis Markos is a professor of English at Houston Christian University. He is also an expert and scholar on C. S. Lewis and J. R. R. Tolkien. On this episode of the podcast, Dr. Markos helps us to understand a little background on C. S. Lewis and gives us some tips on how to read Lewis a little more carefully. Dr. Markos shows us how C. S. Lewis is important for today and how we can use Lewis’s approach to be more winsome in our Christian witness to the world around us.

Dr. Markos is a lot of fun, and you will enjoy hearing his passion bleed through in the conversation. If you would like to know more about Dr. Markos, you can find his books here. You can also read his article, What I Learned from Rereading C. S. Lewis, which we discuss in the podcast. You may also enjoy this podcast from The Art of Manliness where I first heard Dr. Markos speak about C. S. Lewis.

If you enjoy this podcast, please consider sharing it with a friend or leaving a rating or review to help us get the word out.

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May 31, 202357:53
Episode 74: Lies Young Women Believe with Ginger Chestnut

Episode 74: Lies Young Women Believe with Ginger Chestnut

On this episode, I sit down with my friend and co-worker, Ginger Chestnut, to talk about Lies Young Women Believe, parenting, and mentoring the next generation. Through the course of the conversation we discuss ice cream and popcorn for dinner, burned meals, and living room campouts. If you are a woman or young woman, you will love learning from Ginger's wisdom. 

If you are a man or a young man, you need to hear this because the women in your life have some challenges that are a bit different than yours. You need to know how to love them well.

Finally, if you have ever been tempted to believe that your whole life has to be determined by your mistakes, make sure to pay close attention to the last five minutes. One moment does not have to destroy your entire life.

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May 24, 202354:13
Episode 73: Habits of Hospitality
May 18, 202318:55
Episode 72: What You Should and Should Not Say At A Funeral
May 10, 202342:47
Episode 71: The Future is Analog with David Sax

Episode 71: The Future is Analog with David Sax

Have you ever found yourself longing for more than an online experience? Have you ever missed a payphone or a real textbook? Maybe you remember the smell of your elementary school or the relationship with your high school youth leader. If any of these describe you, you know something about the desire for analog experiences.

David Sax is an award winning writer and keynote speaker. He is also a father, husband, and amateur lake surfer. On this episode of the podcast, David shares about two of his books, The Revenge of Analog and The Future is Analog. David shares how our digitally focused world has led to a revival of analog experiences like vinyl records and board games. We also discuss how COVID lockdowns revealed just how important analog experiences are to human existence. Along the way we talk about the tactile experience of religious services, Christmas parties, and Latvian saunas.

Regardless of whether you love boardgames or vinyl records, you will enjoy David's perspective on the real world and why we all need it. To learn more about David, visit his website at www.saxdavid.com.


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May 03, 202301:12:43
Episode 70: The Wolf in Their Pockets with Chris Martin

Episode 70: The Wolf in Their Pockets with Chris Martin

Social media likely shapes the people you love and disciple more than you do. With that Sentence, Chris Martin begins his book, The Wolf in Their Pockets. On this episode of the podcast, Chris shares about the premise behind his book, the positive aspects of social media and the dangers that it presents. Chris encourages believers to engage with social media thoughtfully and actively rather than passively. We discuss how social media can be utilized to extend relationships--like keeping up with college friends--and to communicate important information. 

Along the course of our conversation, we discuss the Cubs, the designated hitter, and the new pitch clock in MLB. If you are a consumer or a creator of social media content, this podcast is for you. 

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Apr 27, 202301:09:08
Episode 69: Evangelism Instead of Excuses
Apr 19, 202314:04
Episode 68: A Changed Life with Lanny Gunter
Mar 02, 202344:25
Episode 67: Building Young Men of Character and Consequence with Mark Hodge

Episode 67: Building Young Men of Character and Consequence with Mark Hodge

Mark Hodge is the Head Football Coach at Spartanburg High School in Spartanburg, South Carolina. As the head coach there, Mark has implemented a program to help his players to become more than athletes, but to grow into young men of character, consequence, and courage. Mark says the REFINED program is “designed to give support, structure and opportunities for our children to become the best they can possibly be as adults. It encompasses the socio-emotional, academic, psychological, physical and financial aspects of life.”

As discussed on a previous episode of the podcast, we live in an age where high school teachers (and coaches) are more trusted than pastors. Educators have a wonderful opportunity and Mark Hodge is working to make the most of that opportunity. If you are interested in learning more about the REFINED program, reach out to Mark.

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Feb 24, 202344:17
Episode 66: The Missional Need for Army Chaplains
Feb 16, 202348:13
Episode 65: Restoring Trust with Craigan Blankenship

Episode 65: Restoring Trust with Craigan Blankenship

According to a recent gallup poll, trust in pastors fell to an historic low last year. Only 34% of Americans believe members of the clergy to be people with high ethical standards. On this episode of the podcast, I spend time with Pastor Craigan Blankenship who has been working over the last five years to build trust within his own community. Join us as Craigan shares his experiences and as we explore ways you can become more influential and trusted in your own community as you seek to bring others to Jesus. If you are a teacher, police officer, or medial worker, you’ll want to pay special attention because, according to gallup, the public trusts you far more than they trust your pastor.

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Jan 31, 202341:08
Episode 64: Santa, the Defender of Orthodoxy, and Other Christmas Traditions
Dec 22, 202230:13
Episode 63: Ordinary People, Extraordinary Impact with Bethany Melton
Nov 30, 202239:41
Episode 62: Home for the Holidays

Episode 62: Home for the Holidays

If you could change one thing about your home this Christmas season, what would it be? On this episode of the podcast, I discuss my new book, Home for the Holidays. Home for the Holidays is an Advent devotional I have written that I hope will help you restore hope, love, joy, and peace in your home this Christmas season as you direct your attention to the Savior who was born to rescue the world from the curse of sin.

You can purchase a copy of Home for the Holidays in paperback or kindle edition on Amazon here. It would be my honor to help you and your family focus more on Christ this Christmas season.

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Nov 04, 202211:59
Episode 61: Grace at Work with Bryan Chapell

Episode 61: Grace at Work with Bryan Chapell

Dr. Bryan Chapell is the leader of the Administrative Committee of the Presbyterian Church in America and serves as Pastor Emeritus of the historic Grace Presbyterian Church in Peoria, Illinois and President Emeritus of Covenant Theological Seminary in St. Louis, Missouri. Dr. Chapell has authored numerous books and is also a husband, father, and grandfather of six grandchildren.

On this episode of the Podcast, Dr. Chapell discusses is most recent book, Grace of Work: Redeeming the Grind and Glory of Your Job.In the course of the discussion, Dr. Chapell explains how a proper understanding of glory can lead to greater satisfaction in work. We also discuss how the dignity of work is ultimately rooted in the dignity of human beings, not in the actual work being done. If you have ever felt stuck in your work or wondered if your work had anything to offer to the Kingdom of God, this podcast is perfect for you.

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Oct 26, 202239:47
Episode 60: The True Gospel with Matt Reynolds of Barbell Logic

Episode 60: The True Gospel with Matt Reynolds of Barbell Logic

Matt Reynolds is the founder of Barbell Logic, a former professional strongman, and has performed as an elite-level powerlifter. Matt is a former gym owner and a long-time respected strength coach. Most importantly, Matt is a committed follower of Jesus with a powerful story of grace and redemption. On this episode of the podcast, Matt share’s his story, speaks of his awakening to the full power of the gospel, and brags on his amazing wife. Along the way we explore the value of discipleship, accountability, and strong churches. For fun, Matt and I discuss some lifting and the torture that is the Rogue Echo Bike. Matt also shares some advice for anyone who might be interested in beginning their physical strength journey.

Quote to remember:

There is something refining about voluntary hardship.

Matt’s story is one of hidden sin and the power of Jesus. If you are struggling with your own hidden sins, Matt would love to talk with you. You can email Matt at mreynolds@barbell-logic.com

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Sep 01, 202257:25
Episode 59: Commit to Community
Aug 23, 202214:18
Episode 58: Decisions Before Discipleship
Aug 03, 202213:58
Episode 57: How To Create A Healthy Student Ministry
Jul 27, 202252:08
Episode 56: Coaches Investing In The Next Generation of Young Men with Jake Morris
Apr 14, 202234:39
Episode 55: What is Secularism and Why Should You Care?

Episode 55: What is Secularism and Why Should You Care?

What is secularism? Wikipedia says, Secularism is the principle of seeking to conduct human affairs based on secularnaturalistic considerations. It is most commonly defined as the separation of religion from civic affairs and the state, and may be broadened to a similar position concerning the need to remove or to minimize the role of religion in any public sphere. On this episode of The Ordinary Christian Podcast, Craig explains there are at least three different types of secularism and distinct ways Christians should respond to each.

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Mar 28, 202217:01
Episode 54: Habits of the Household with Justin Whitmel Earley
Mar 17, 202242:02
Episode 53: Christians and the News
Feb 24, 202227:18
Episode 52: How You Can Make Your Church Healthier Today with Brian Croft
Oct 28, 202101:03:50
Episode 51: The Tax You Do Not Owe

Episode 51: The Tax You Do Not Owe

Paying the tax we do not owe often means choosing to be the offended if it advances the gospel or helps to maintain unity within the church. Paying the tax may mean apologizing even when you do not feel that you were wrong (or that you were the only one wrong). Sometimes in ministry, paying the tax may mean keeping our mouths shut when we could share information that would make us to look better.

Oct 21, 202111:15
Episode 50: Be A Friend

Episode 50: Be A Friend

God created us not only for romance, but for friendship as well. In some ways, being a friend is just being you and being available. In other ways, friendship is active–you can be a friend by doing something for those whom you love. You need friends and your friends need you. Tune in to learn how you can be a friend to someone who needs it today.

Sep 30, 202110:09
Episode 49: The Myths of Marriage

Episode 49: The Myths of Marriage

Often people walk into marriage with unrealistic expectations and unspoken assumptions. In this episode of the podcast, Craig helps to unpack some of those common myths so that you can work to bring your marriage out of fantasy and into the real world. Subscribe to The Ordinary Christian Podcast.

Sep 20, 202112:25
Episode 48: Biblical Complementarianism with Joel Rainey
Jun 10, 202140:43
Episode 47: Navigating the Dangers of Cell Phone Abuse in Teen Culture with Adam Whiteside
May 27, 202153:42
Episode 46: Mentoring, Coaching, Parenting and Locker Room Ministry with Thomas Austin

Episode 46: Mentoring, Coaching, Parenting and Locker Room Ministry with Thomas Austin

Thomas Austin was a standout football player at Clemson University and spent several years playing offensive line in the NFL. After his NFL career Thomas served as a graduate assistant at Clemson, an offensive line coach at Georgia State University, and has recently returned to Clemson as an offensive analyst. Thomas is married to Margaret and they have four kids. In this episode, Thomas speaks of the joys of ministry through his platform, the mentoring opportunities that coaching brings, and the challenges of caring well for his wife and kids with a busy schedule. You will also hear how growing up in a Christian home prepared Thomas to follow Christ in college and the NFL, the value of local church, and the power of a godly father. Thomas also gives a couple of good book suggestions and works diligently to convert me to being a Clemson fan.

Apr 29, 202101:00:32