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Create In Me

Create In Me

By Create in Me
A conversation about worship, creativity and the art at the heart of how we experience God and how we share that experience with others.
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What worship isn’t…how do we know?
We talk a lot about what worship is but what isn’t worship? What ways can we, in community, discern our ways of worship? What might we discover along the way?
April 03, 2022
Lent and the life within the practice.
Brian and Rebecca talk about Lenten practice, the possibilities of the season and about what they have learned from Lent in the past.
March 01, 2022
Wide Open Worship Planning: Round Table Discussion
We talk about Matthew 21:18-22 and Exodus 4:24-26 and what we’d do in worship with no limits. We welcome Revs Staci Marrese-Wheeler and Andrew Heil.
February 16, 2022
Conversations and building our capacity to widen our circles
Brian and Rebecca are back with season 4 and hoping to explore how the conversation can expand. Where might you be called to join in? What do you want to learn about or share with us? We’d love to hear from you!
February 03, 2022
Interview with Kerry Krauss
Brian and Rebecca talk with Rev. Kerry Krauss about his writing, daily essays published on his Facebook feed and how spiritual gifts can blossom in the midst of changing times. As we close up our season, how has change, changed us and will we hold onto what we have learned?
May 15, 2021
Wrapping up a year of change...or not?
Rebecca and Brian reflect on the year of focusing on change, change agents and what we have learned during this season of Covid.  What has changed the most for you this year?  What lessons do you want to carry with you into the future?
May 01, 2021
Interview with Rev. Christy Clore about transitional ministry and change
Christy is a trainer transitional minister who shares her insights into the changes the Church is experiencing and how some lessons from the practices of transitional or intentional interim ministry could be helpful as we discern the way forward. 
April 17, 2021
What are we cultivating when we pursue creativity?
Rebecca and Brian return to a favorite topic...creativity. Digging deeper to get to the root of what we mean when we talk about creativity and an expansive understanding of the creative process and intention. 
April 01, 2021
Interview with Vani and Shanti Pradhan
Rebecca and Brian talk with friends and colleagues in Nepal as we share perspectives on the impact of the changes that have come due to the Covid-19 pandemic.  We talk prayer life, song writing and much more!
March 15, 2021
Wonder and Hope in Liminal space
Using a quote from Susan Beaumont's Book, "How to Lead When You Don't Know Where You're Going: Leading in a Liminal Season," Brian and Rebecca consider how practices of wonder and curiosity might serve the church in this time between pre-Covid and post-Covid worlds.  
March 01, 2021
Interview with Rev. Cynthia Rader-Geyer
We talk online community specifically in youth ministry during the Covid-19 pandemic.  Cynthia shares her experiences and insight into online community building that works beyond just youth and young adults.  What changes will we keep as the pandemic eases and how will we decide? Here are some links she shared of resources: Article:  Christianity in the Digital Age (article is from 2017 but still informative)
February 15, 2021
Our bodies in motion--Our bodies in worship?
Brian and Rebecca talk embodiment and wonder about how worship can help us live into the Incarnation of Jesus Christ in the world.  What might it do for our openness and faithfulness to the Gospel to attend to our bodies more directly in our practice of worship communally and individually?
February 01, 2021
Interview with Andrew and Jenna Craver about walking the Camino de Santiago
We dig deeper into the idea of travellers with a conversation about the experience of walking a historic pilgrimage.  Thanks to Andrew and Jenna for sharing their journey and reflections with us. 
January 15, 2021
Technology as a tool?
Brian and Rebecca consider how technologies of all kinds are utilized in our practices of worship and what is the core question that helps us in our planning and decisions about what technology we will use or not?
January 01, 2021
Re-release of "Benefits of Worship"
We are going back to the beginning with this re-released episode about the benefits of worship.  Why is worshiping God so important and the impact that is has on the way we live.  In the midst of this pandemic, many of us are going back to the basics and wrestling with questions about what do we keep doing and what can be left behind in favor of the new things that are coming forth. 
December 01, 2020
Is the Church a traveler or a tourist?
Brian and Rebecca talk about how we see and experience the journey of faith.  How does our perspective change our experience?  What would it be like if we practiced a discipline of a traveler mindset instead of that of a tourist?
November 01, 2020
Interview with Rev. Mandy Mastros
Mandy Mastros joins Brian and Rebecca to talk about how her congregation is doing years after a major transition in there ministry and location.  We talk about the ways we can use this time during the pandemic to figure out "why" we do what we do as the Church and to listen for God's leading in how we might be transformed for the future.  
October 15, 2020
De-centering as a worship practice
We read scripture, reflect on experiences, make connections and witness to the world about who Jesus is.  But how often do we center ourselves or anything other than God in worship? What are the consequences?  Why might a practice and attention to de-centering be helpful as we are confronted by changes in the world?  We spend some time thinking about the need to for attention to the story we tell about God from various perspectives.  
October 01, 2020
"The Church's task is always, how do we do this now?"
Join us in a conversation with the former Archivist of the  Moravian Church in North America- Southern Province, Rev. Dr. C. Daniel Crews, as we talk about changes in the church beginning with the 2nd temple.  To look towards the current changes and the future we take a step into the past. 
September 15, 2020
Jumping into change and the Church
Season 3 will focus on the ways the Church experiences societal shifts and how those changes affect worship creation and experience.  Rebecca and Brian consider the impact of change and wonder about how the way we approach changes can help or hinder our response to them.  
September 01, 2020
Season 3 Trailer
We'll spend season three talking about societal changes that have impacted the ways we worship.  We look forward to learning from the past as we move into the future.  The current challenges of Covid-19 and the racial reckoning in the US are calling us to respond in different ways of worship.  We look forward to conversations that we hope will help you navigate today with lessons from yesterday.  
August 10, 2020
Interview with Rev. Tracy Robinson
Tracy and his wife Rhonda, Co-pastor Esperanza for Bethlehem in Bethlehem, PA.  We talk new worship space, community ministry and how to be amazed at what God is doing!  
May 15, 2020
Learning from Exile and other thoughts about ministry in the midst of Covid-19
Brian and Rebecca reflect on the rebuilding of the temple in Ezra 3 and what lessons we might begin to unpack from the Biblical narrative around exile to inform our practices of worship in this time or dramatic change in the ways we worship "together."  Check out Rev. Dr. Eileen Edwards Godly Play video about exile. 
May 01, 2020
Interview with Nathan Corona
Brian and Rebecca chat with Nathan Corona about his faith, work as a creative and his inspirations.  Check out Nathan's current work at  
April 15, 2020
How to make good worship online: an interview with Jon Pumper and Elise Joyce
We’re happy to welcome Jon Pumper and Elise Joyce to the podcast.  Jon has been creating and sharing piano  covers/tutorials and comedy sketches on YouTube sine 2016. His channel has 129K subscribers and over 50 million views. Jon is also  Musical Director at the Brave New Workshop comedy improv theater in  Minneapolis. Elise Joyce is a film technician with production and camera  credits on a number of projects for film and television including the  Food Network show “Girl Meets Farm” and the award-winning  2017 feature thriller “Tolerance.” We talk about how to create online worship and some do's and don'ts.  And Brian and Rebecca ask questions about creating in the midst of Covid-19 and other ideas.  
April 01, 2020
Interview with Nina Drenth and Peter Tigchelaar from the Greater Ontario House of Prayer
In this interview Brian and Rebecca learn about GOHOP, a local expression of the world-wide 24/7 prayer movement.  Nina Schuurman Drenth is the Communications Director at GOHOP.  Peter Tigchelaar was introduced as a Benedictine Oblate and Folk Psalmist We encourage you to check out their stuff  Here’s Nina’s Etsy Her Instagram And, a link to the Greater Ontario House of Prayer
March 15, 2020
Preach it!
Rebecca and Brian reflect on preaching.  Why we do it. How it fits into worship. And what we might like to do differently. Check out the invitation to let us know what you think about preaching at the end of the podcast and send us a message!  
March 02, 2020
Interview with Ken Read
Rebecca and Brian talk with Ken Read about his practices of music, martial Qi Gong and yoga.  Exploring how the practices of attending to spiritual life and awareness connect us to our bodies and our faith life.  This interfaith conversation explores points of connections and invites us to think about where God is working in our lives and how it is made visible through our worship and prayer practices.  
February 15, 2020
How would you like to see Create in Me grow?
Brian and Rebecca get a little meta and talk about the podcast on the podcast.  We have a lot of ideas around where Create in Me might be going and are wondering what you...our listener would like to see happen and better yet do you want to be a part of making some new things happen?  We look forward to hearing from all of you with ideas and inspiration that will help us all to keep on creating! Email us at!
February 01, 2020
Permission to create an interview with Rev. Dr. Theresa Cho
Brian and Rebecca enjoy a conversation with Theresa Cho about her creative worship blog and the work of creativity in congregations that can support the process of organizational change over time.  Check out her blog at where she shares resources for prayer stations, retreats and inter-generational worship experiences.  We also reference her congregation's website which can be found at /.
January 15, 2020
Re-released Improv and Worship
A throw back to our first season when Brian shared his love of improv and we wonder together about what improv can teach us as a way to practice our faith and worship together.  
January 01, 2020
Inhabiting our bodies: what can dance teach us about worship?
In an interview with Kyra Tessmann we explore the world of collegiate ballroom dancing and wonder together about what we can learn from dance to inform how we worship God.  Check out this article by Kathleen Kline-Chessen if you want to dig deeper in your own thinking about dance as worship.  
December 15, 2019
What are we saved for?
Brian and Rebecca talk about how we share our faith, specifically what we believe about salvation.  How does what we believe get communicated in and through our practices of worship and why it matters.  For reference check out James Choung's four circles diagram  
December 02, 2019
Interview with Evan Koons
Brian learned about Evan Koons and his work through a curriculum called, "For the Life of the World." You can check it out at or watch this trailer   Brian and guest co-host Rev. Dan Miller talk with Evan about his recent conversion to Orthodox Christianity and his perspective on the adventure of following Jesus.  We also recommend checking out his video on Church Appropriate Dance Moves and a parody called, "Camp Manna".  
November 15, 2019
The instrumentation of ritual as a tool for spiritual life and worship
Looking back on some previously unpublished content we came across some thoughts on ritual that we wanted to explore more fully.  Enjoy some of the bonus content and then hear our reflections on ritual now.  
November 01, 2019
Interview with Rev. Fran Pratt on writing litanies and her new book!
Brian and Rebecca talk with Fran about her book and her work writing litanies and prayers for the Church.  We hope you enjoy our conversation! Rev. Fran Pratt is a pastor, writer, musician, and mystic. Making meaningful and beautiful liturgy to be spoken, practiced, and sung, is at the heart of her creative drive. Fran is author of a new book of congregational litanies, and regularly creates and shares modern liturgy on her website and Patreon. Her prayers are prayed in churches of various sizes and traditions across the globe. She writes, speaks, and consults on melding ancient and new liturgical streams in faith and worship gatherings and spiritual practice. Fran currently serves as Pastor of Worship and Liturgy at Peace of Christ Church in Round Rock, Texas, where she lives with her spouse and two young daughters.  Her book _Call and Response: Litanies for Congregational Prayer_ can be purchased on Amazon. Check it out and follow Fran on Instagram @thelitanist and on facebook at Fran Pratt.  You can also become a supporter at  
October 15, 2019
Getting comfortable with discomfort, can worship help?
Brian and Rebecca talk about how the practice of discomfort in worship can prepare us for the invitation of following Jesus into the world.  What do we do to prepare for the disruption that comes when choosing the Way of Jesus?  How can the Moravian Motto, "In Essentials, Unity; In Non-Essentials, Liberty; In All Things Love," give us a framework for faithful disruption?
October 01, 2019
Interview with Dr. Jill Peters
Rebecca and Brian talk with Jill Peters who runs the Crossroads Lay Leadership Program at Moravian Theological Seminary.  She tells us about the worship class and give lots of wonderful examples of how worship can be re-imagined to help make deeper connections with God.  We hope that some of you might check out the Crossroads Program for your own spiritual formation and growth.  It is a wonderful resource!
September 15, 2019
What's the Bible got to do with it?
Brian and Rebecca talk about one of the basic building blocks of Christian worship, the Bible.  The story of God and of God's relationship with human beings and creation is where many worship leaders start to create worship experience.  Why is that?  Hear us think aloud about the importance of the stories we tell and how they impact the stories of our own lives.  
September 02, 2019
Re-released interview with Rev. Dr. Nola Knouse
History of music in the Moravian Church, hymn writing and more!
August 15, 2019
Re-released episode about Brian’s backstory
Find out more about who Brian is and why he is so interested in worship and the process of creating
August 01, 2019
Re-released interview with David Melby-Gibbons
We talk about the difference between hymn writing and song writing, process and hear some beautiful tunes too!
July 15, 2019
Re-release of co-host Rebecca’s Background episode
Re-released episode on Co-host Rebecca and her interest in worship...where it started and more
July 01, 2019
Re-release of Interview with Rev. Dr. Amy Gohdes-Luhman
We talk preaching, prophecy and community
June 18, 2019
We’re on a summer hiatus but are bringing back some previous episodes! Enjoy!
This is a re-release if our very first episode. We talk about where Create in Me got it’s start and more!
June 02, 2019
Interview with Rev. Canon Peg Chemberlain
Peg has worked for justice in many ways, specifically through her ecumenical work in Minnesota.  Have a listen to our conversation about how worship and justice are most vibrant when they form a basis for our life together.  
May 15, 2019
Whatcha wearin'?
What do our clothes say about us?  In worship settings?  In Daily Life?  And what do we chose to say through our expression?  Brian and Rebecca riff on these ideas and follow the conversation about clothes through a variety of places.  We hope you enjoy it as much as we did!
May 01, 2019
What does it mean that we are Easter People?
Brian and Rebecca talk about Easter in the Moravian Tradition in the context of the ChristChurch Massacre in New Zealand.  How do we show up for Easter?  What are we ready for and how are we changed by it? 
April 01, 2019
Interview with Rev. Dr. Nola Reed Knouse
A historical perspective on creativity in the music of the Moravian Church over the centuries. How do we En-Courage (give courage) to each other to create and share what the Spirit of Christ is doing now?
March 15, 2019
Episode 5-A behind the scenes look into Rebecca's story
Hear a little about Rebecca's story and the people that have helped her to understand worship and to love it!  The art and creation side of Rebecca's passion for congregational worship.  
March 01, 2019
Interview with Rev. Zach Dease
We talk about making guitars, the spiritual practice of creating and hear some beautiful music.  Here are some helpful links if you want to know more:  Email Zach for more information about his guitars at Zinzendorf:
February 15, 2019
Episode 4-Delving into Brian's Background
Co-host Brian Dixon talks about his background and where his passion for worship finds its roots. 
January 31, 2019
Create In Me Interview with Rev. Dr. Amy Gohdes-Luhman
We talk about preaching, particularly in the congregational setting. How do the words we choose and the ways we preach help everyone in our congregation, including us, to make meaning?
January 15, 2019
Episode 3-Improv and Worship
Brian shares about a new passion for the practice of improv and how it might be a useful tool in the experience of Worship.  How can worship be more spontaneous and responsive to the moment?  
January 01, 2019
Create in Me Interview with Justin Rabbach and Rev. Dan Miller
Join us as we talk with Justin and Dan of The Moravian Church Without Walls ( and the Moravian Daily Texts Podcast ( Hear about how they got started and some of the experiments that they have tried in 10+ years of digital ministry.
December 15, 2018
Episode 2-Benefits of worship
What are the benefits of worship? How and why do people worship God? Brian and Rebecca talk about their experiences and wonder about the way relationships and community affect our experiences of worship.
December 02, 2018
Create In Me Interview with David Melby-Gibbons
We talk song writing and creating music especially for worship. Check out David's work at Dust of the Saints on Facebook!
November 15, 2018
Episode 1- Welcome to Create In Me!
Revs. Rebecca Craver and Brian Dixon talk about why they started this podcast about worship and how they hope it will be a way to make space for many others to engage one another in the hows, whys, wheres, and wonderings about what worship is and can be in the future!
November 01, 2018