name / twitter / site
Stephanie Irigoyen/ @stephirigoyen /http://irigoyendesign.com
Rick Messer / @rickmesser / http://rickmesser.com
Chris Martin / @cmstudios / http://www.chrismartinstudios.com
Rye Castillo / @ryenotbread / http://ryemason.com
Jo-Elle Husband / @@headofhouseco / http://headofhouse.co
How to manage imposter syndrome and the sinking feeling what everyone else is doing way cooler work than you
What is Imposter Syndrome?
Jo elle - feeling like a fraud, you didn’t do your due dilgence to earn your place at the table
Stephanie - people are going to discover that you do’t know what you’re don’t
Rick - in the landscape of design playing roles in companies that it hasn’t before - not sure we don’t belong here. We haven’t gotten to play in these sandboxes
Alicja - people look at me and think I got it all together, but I don’t
Any first hand experience?
Stephanie - when she left her full time job - freelance in the meantime and no one was hiring. So it reinforced and then wondered
Rye - similar story. Remotely to office. Took such a long time, thought it was a reflection of her work
Chris - feeling just yesterday. No one is calling, or returning the calls
How have you fought IS?
Steph - keeps in mind that we are all a work in progress
Jo Elle - i don’t think we can’t ever get over it. If it’s a skill you can get better. Or a feeling step back and get another’s perspective
Rick - good for you to give yourself credit that we make.
How do you celebrate a little thing?
Chris - no. so locked into the production cycle but sees the damage
Steph - she sees it can hurt and help, cause she’s not as “successful” on paper as before
Alicja and Steph -
How’d you guys deal with the cool kids
Rye - what do I want that visibility? Do i have to be as good as them, and the world needs to affirm that?
Rick - the sheer volume that we’re dealing with is new thing now. It’s not a normal thing - this strong influence of what people are doing. We get fire hosed with it and feel like we need to amp our sharing --- we don’t see all of the strong. It’s a burden that we have to
Jo Elle - you can disengage. It’s okay to take a break
Chris - the difference between our work and our audience - the things we do and the people that are watching.
The difference between work and audience
Rye - who actually uses it, vs who I want show (dribbble)
Jo Elle - collaboration group, had to share low
Alicja - create a community that makes your heroes into peers
Steph - shares why she started community
Chris - short term community when he talks to someone on the podcast
Jo Elle - when work gets too much she just has too
Rick - gets fatigued with it but scared to get off too much cause lose a touch of design pulse
- don’t like the feeling of late night social scroll
Rye - i don’t like how it makes me feel; wants to find a
Alicja via Deep focus book - “Deep focus brings deep satisfaction”
Maxim Leyzerovich: @round / Capital One
Alejandra Quintero: @alequintero / alejandraquintero.com
Colin Wilson: @_thecolinwilson / Tide University Laundry
Darold Pinnock: @dpcreates / daroldpinnock.com
Salil Malkan: @salilmalkan / Zeus
Going Beyond UI Design Systems
What is a UI Design System?
Salil - is a set of UI components that you can reuse across screens and devices to make a product that wholistic and designed thoughtfully. There’s not bespoke
Max - a lot of the goal is to quickly put together - not just concepting, ideation - but actual production.
They could whiteboard and send over to engineer and could quickly get together
Colin - they are getting in a place to get where th elements are packaged other in a site
UI Design System = or not UI kit
DS isn’t as useful for the design team, but more for the engineer (code)
Salil - overarching goal is crank things out really fast
So there’s trade-offs: limitations of brand vocabulary
Colin - DS allows you to move faster, to learn and pivot
Ui kit - is just the working sketch or figma file. It’s one half of full system
Going Beyond UI Design Systems // what does this mean?
Alejandra - what’s behind? The brand? The reason why you’re doing
Colin - this hits the topics that Tide univ is going through right now
What’s the mission, goal?
How can it flex and scale?**
Darold - question: in the course I’m taking: stuff like that would be done before being the actual system
Colin - having an understanding of a mission/vision and how it relates to sprint goals - we have to the know how when using it, is it 100% appropriate to make a decision to keep or break it
Colin: How do you go about the why? Why do I need to use an UI kit?
Max: the why - saved time, original source of truth, needs to be flexible not 100% prescription
Alejandra: UI systems do designers and engineers get people on the same page
Salil - when there’s an existing product, app - even when people see those inconsistencies - it’s really hard to get people to systemize things
How do you guys stay inline with brand while expanding the UI?
Colin: so collaboratively with brand and engineer - iteratively and together, quickly
Each team brings their insight
Names user for a person, to help hone it
Collaborative: open space, defined steps, bring in people as the steps occur, the reviews are at the end of sprint/week and engineers are there. Open conversation
Darold: Idea of building a persona - the time and effort helps with streamlining it from brand to engineer
Salil: my assumption has been that DS support brand cause they bring consistency. But you don’t use DS to bring out and grow brand. How does ui system grow the brand?
Max: DS is the primary channel of expressing a brand
Colin: people aren’t build for systems but systems are built for people
Brand is well-told story: DS is the extension
How do you
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