Dex, Zach, Tony, Josh, and Alicja discuss the need of communication and trust within teams. Share stories and tactics on how to navigate conflict with clients and teammates. Lastly, we dive into how to lead the culture inside and outside of the agency.
Dex Alexander http://Blackroses.com
Zach McNair http://zachmcnair.com
Tony Romain http://www.tonyromain.com / www.5stonesmedia.com
Josh Ellis http://lioncastlecreative.com/
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name / twitter / site
Stephanie Irigoyen/ @stephirigoyen /http://irigoyendesign.com
Rick Messer / @rickmesser / http://rickmesser.com
Chris Martin / @cmstudios / http://www.chrismartinstudios.com
Rye Castillo / @ryenotbread / http://ryemason.com
Jo-Elle Husband / @@headofhouseco / http://headofhouse.co
How to manage imposter syndrome and the sinking feeling what everyone else is doing way cooler work than you
What is Imposter Syndrome?
Jo elle - feeling like a fraud, you didn’t do your due dilgence to earn your place at the table
Stephanie - people are going to discover that you do’t know what you’re don’t
Rick - in the landscape of design playing roles in companies that it hasn’t before - not sure we don’t belong here. We haven’t gotten to play in these sandboxes
Alicja - people look at me and think I got it all together, but I don’t
Any first hand experience?
Stephanie - when she left her full time job - freelance in the meantime and no one was hiring. So it reinforced and then wondered
Rye - similar story. Remotely to office. Took such a long time, thought it was a reflection of her work
Chris - feeling just yesterday. No one is calling, or returning the calls
How have you fought IS?
Steph - keeps in mind that we are all a work in progress
Jo Elle - i don’t think we can’t ever get over it. If it’s a skill you can get better. Or a feeling step back and get another’s perspective
Rick - good for you to give yourself credit that we make.
How do you celebrate a little thing?
Chris - no. so locked into the production cycle but sees the damage
Steph - she sees it can hurt and help, cause she’s not as “successful” on paper as before
Alicja and Steph -
How’d you guys deal with the cool kids
Rye - what do I want that visibility? Do i have to be as good as them, and the world needs to affirm that?
Rick - the sheer volume that we’re dealing with is new thing now. It’s not a normal thing - this strong influence of what people are doing. We get fire hosed with it and feel like we need to amp our sharing --- we don’t see all of the strong. It’s a burden that we have to
Jo Elle - you can disengage. It’s okay to take a break
Chris - the difference between our work and our audience - the things we do and the people that are watching.
The difference between work and audience
Rye - who actually uses it, vs who I want show (dribbble)
Jo Elle - collaboration group, had to share low
Alicja - create a community that makes your heroes into peers
Steph - shares why she started community
Chris - short term community when he talks to someone on the podcast
Jo Elle - when work gets too much she just has too
Rick - gets fatigued with it but scared to get off too much cause lose a touch of design pulse
- don’t like the feeling of late night social scroll
Rye - i don’t like how it makes me feel; wants to find a
Alicja via Deep focus book - “Deep focus brings deep satisfaction”
Maxim Leyzerovich: @round / Capital One
Alejandra Quintero: @alequintero / alejandraquintero.com
Colin Wilson: @_thecolinwilson / Tide University Laundry
Darold Pinnock: @dpcreates / daroldpinnock.com
Salil Malkan: @salilmalkan / Zeus
Going Beyond UI Design Systems
What is a UI Design System?
Salil - is a set of UI components that you can reuse across screens and devices to make a product that wholistic and designed thoughtfully. There’s not bespoke
Max - a lot of the goal is to quickly put together - not just concepting, ideation - but actual production.
They could whiteboard and send over to engineer and could quickly get together
Colin - they are getting in a place to get where th elements are packaged other in a site
UI Design System = or not UI kit
DS isn’t as useful for the design team, but more for the engineer (code)
Salil - overarching goal is crank things out really fast
So there’s trade-offs: limitations of brand vocabulary
Colin - DS allows you to move faster, to learn and pivot
Ui kit - is just the working sketch or figma file. It’s one half of full system
Going Beyond UI Design Systems // what does this mean?
Alejandra - what’s behind? The brand? The reason why you’re doing
Colin - this hits the topics that Tide univ is going through right now
What’s the mission, goal?
How can it flex and scale?**
Darold - question: in the course I’m taking: stuff like that would be done before being the actual system
Colin - having an understanding of a mission/vision and how it relates to sprint goals - we have to the know how when using it, is it 100% appropriate to make a decision to keep or break it
Colin: How do you go about the why? Why do I need to use an UI kit?
Max: the why - saved time, original source of truth, needs to be flexible not 100% prescription
Alejandra: UI systems do designers and engineers get people on the same page
Salil - when there’s an existing product, app - even when people see those inconsistencies - it’s really hard to get people to systemize things
How do you guys stay inline with brand while expanding the UI?
Colin: so collaboratively with brand and engineer - iteratively and together, quickly
Each team brings their insight
Names user for a person, to help hone it
Collaborative: open space, defined steps, bring in people as the steps occur, the reviews are at the end of sprint/week and engineers are there. Open conversation
Darold: Idea of building a persona - the time and effort helps with streamlining it from brand to engineer
Salil: my assumption has been that DS support brand cause they bring consistency. But you don’t use DS to bring out and grow brand. How does ui system grow the brand?
Max: DS is the primary channel of expressing a brand
Colin: people aren’t build for systems but systems are built for people
Brand is well-told story: DS is the extension
How do you
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