The Business Storytelling Podcast

The Business Storytelling Podcast

By Trappe Digital LLC

Top content marketer Christoph Trappe and guests share tips on connecting better with buyers. Named a Top 5 storytelling podcast, a Top 125 podcast to listen to in 2025, and a Top 1.5 percent podcast in the world.

A million downloads and counting. Listened to and watched in 100-plus countries. Available on all major podcast channels, live and DBTV.

Guests have included:
Joe Pulizzi
Michael Brenner
Kristina Podnar
Scott Brinker
Seth Godin
Barry Schwartz
... and more.
Produced by Trappe Digital LLC.

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712: The art of self-leadership with Heather Younger

The Business Storytelling PodcastJan 03, 2025
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720: How to connect business storytelling to revenue

720: How to connect business storytelling to revenue

You are now telling your business stories, getting potential customers' attention. But how do you truly turn content into revenue? Sheri Otto, a growth strategist for B2B founders and businesses, primarily in tech, joins me to share what she knows works and what doesn't.Join us for Episode 720 of "The Business Storytelling Podcast".Connect with Sheri here: growthlanestrategies.comSkip to other content Content with purpose drives real results (1:48) Using AI to analyze data, not just create content (3:59) Measuring success beyond numbers (6:54) The overlooked middle funnel opportunity (11:07) Re-engaging dormant contacts for revenue (16:12) Setting realistic timelines for content ROI (20:07) Progress over perfection in content creation (22:49) Maximizing value through content repurposing (23:32)
Feb 24, 202523:59
719: Reviving the American Dream: The story of the Vortic Watch Company

719: Reviving the American Dream: The story of the Vortic Watch Company

RT Custer, co-founder and CEO of the Vortic Watch Company, joins me on Episode 719 of "The Business Storytelling Podcast" to share how he brought the company's products to market and continues to be a success with customers.Shop for your one-of-its-kind watch here: https://vorticwatches.comSkip to a specific section of the conversation:(0:44) The concept behind Vortic Watch Company: Transforming antique pocket watches into wristwatches(4:43) Origin story: How a conversation on a Penn State golf course sparked the business idea (7:36) Target market and watch sizes: Who wears Vortic watches(8:25) Marketing strategy and getting featured on Jack Ryan with John Krasinski(11:37) The Military Edition watches: Special timepieces from WWII B-17 bombers(13:44) History of pocket watches: From mobile timekeeping to modern wristwatches(17:33) Why Vortic focuses exclusively on American-made pocket watches(19:11) Engineering and design: How pocket watches are transformed into comfortable wristwatches(22:09) How customers choose their Vortic watches: The importance of personal connection and story
Feb 19, 202524:00
718: What's good AI prompt writing?

718: What's good AI prompt writing?

Emanuel Rose returns to "The Business Storytelling Podcast" for Episode 718 to discuss how you can improve your AI prompts to get better results. Join us and grab a copy of his book on the topic here:https://amzn.to/3Ey5I9a
Feb 10, 202521:08
717: Is copywriting a good career?

717: Is copywriting a good career?

Join me on this solo episode of "The Business Storytelling Podcast" to look at the numbers, the jobs out there and discuss what makes a good copywriter and who all does copywriting nowadays.Jump to specific chapters:(0:22) Evolution of Copywriting- Changes from traditional journalism to modern digital tools- Impact of technology on writing processes- Speed vs quality expectations(4:02) Job Market Analysis- Number of copywriter positions on LinkedIn- Difference between "copywriter" and "copywriting" roles- Various job titles that include copywriting duties(8:15) Modern Copywriting Requirements- Cross-channel expertise- Digital and physical content creation- Platform-specific writing considerations(12:30) Data and Analytics in Copywriting- Importance of metrics- Challenge of measuring multi-channel campaigns- Balance between creation and analysis(15:45) Role Evolution and Job Requirements- Perfectionism vs productivity- Grammar and editing expectations- Years of experience needed- Integration with strategy and data analysis(18:20) Tools and Technology- AI tools for content creation- Transcription services- Video editing capabilities- Avatar creation tools(20:45) Career Outlook and Conclusions- Number of people with copywriting in their titles- Job market realities- Career viability assessment- Changing expectations in the fieldMore episodes:http://christophtrappe.com/podcast
Feb 05, 202523:16
716: Podcasters highlight their favorite non-profits during Podcasthon 2025

716: Podcasters highlight their favorite non-profits during Podcasthon 2025

Jeremie Mani, founder of Podcasthon, joins me on Episode 716 of "The Business Storytelling Podcast" to give us the details of how hundreds of podcasts are participating in this event in March. Participate here: http://podcasthon.org
Jan 28, 202522:50
715: "We Tried That Once" And Other Excuses That Sabotage Business Success!

715: "We Tried That Once" And Other Excuses That Sabotage Business Success!

We've all probably heard the excuses of why something can't be done ... and then somebody else does it. Sigh. Larry Mietus, author of "We Tried That Once" joins me to discuss strategies to swat down excuses and get stuff done. Joins us. Grab a copy of his book here: https://amzn.to/40Jcim0
Jan 22, 202524:29
714: How to measure the impact of SEO

714: How to measure the impact of SEO

Brian Piper, author and director of content strategy, joins me on Episode 714 of "The Business Storytelling Podcast" to discuss ways to measure SEO performance. With the emergence of AI, this is becoming a more nuanced area. Join us and grab a copy of his book "Epic Content Marketing" here: https://amzn.to/3C6wFA8
Jan 21, 202524:07
713: AI and Copyright - How does it all work?

713: AI and Copyright - How does it all work?

Christopher Penn returns for Episode 713 of "The Business Storytelling Podcast" to fill us in on what we must know when it comes to creating content with AI and how it impacts copyright. Reach out to Christopher's company here: https://www.trustinsights.ai/
Jan 14, 202522:52
712: The art of self-leadership with Heather Younger

712: The art of self-leadership with Heather Younger

Author Heather Younger returns for episode 712 of "The Business Storytelling Podcast" to preview her new book: "The Art of Self-Leadership." The book teaches "how to take control of the workplace experience and set expectations up front about relationships." Join Heather and me for this conversation. Order book here: https://amzn.to/41Zb731
Jan 03, 202523:50
BONUS: How I clean up sound on video with Adobe Podcasts

BONUS: How I clean up sound on video with Adobe Podcasts

Good audio matters but when it wasn't recorded as well as it could have, I use the Adobe Podcast audio enhancer for video. Here's the difference it makes and try it here: https://podcast.adobe.com/enhance
Dec 22, 202403:24
711: What's the role of business storytelling in research?

711: What's the role of business storytelling in research?

Market research veteran Brian Monschein joins me on Episode 711 of "The Business Storytelling Podcast" to discuss just that.Join us and check out Brian's company: https://narrativeinsights.com/
Dec 19, 202424:31
710: The value of online reviews for local businesses.

710: The value of online reviews for local businesses.

DYK? Customers are willing to spend 31% more at businesses with excellent reviews. Ross McDaniel joins me on Episode 710 of "The Business Storytelling" to discuss just that. He is the Founder of Fencepost, a digital marketing agency that helps home service businesses grow their revenue by increasing their visibility and connecting them with more high-quality customers. Use Ross's company here: fencepost.co Join us.
Dec 18, 202423:40
709: Should you use your name as your website's URL

709: Should you use your name as your website's URL

I have ChristophTrappe.com. Kristin Luck has her name URL. It wasn't always that way. Kristin Luck joins me on Episode 709 of "The Business Storytelling Podcast" to discuss when it makes sense to use your name and when it doesn't. Join us.
Dec 17, 202423:05
708: The role of creativity in advertising

708: The role of creativity in advertising

James Hurman, founding partner of Previously Unavailable and author of "Future Demand," joins me on Episode 708 of "The Business Storytelling Podcast" to discuss how advertising with award-winning creative qualities leads to better results for brands than marketing without creativity. Join us and grab a copy of his book here: https://amzn.to/3VtKkaY
Dec 16, 202423:32
707: Are you saying what people can't unhear?

707: Are you saying what people can't unhear?

Author Tamsen Webster returns to "The Business Storytelling Podcast" for Episode 707 to "highlight the behavioral, cognitive, and psychological principles that underpin lasting change, and offers a powerful alternative to the standard tactics of influence and persuasion." Join us and grab a copy of her book on the topic here: https://amzn.to/4gnNTHS
Dec 12, 202424:16
706: Book launch week: The new "Instagram for Business for Dummies"

706: Book launch week: The new "Instagram for Business for Dummies"

The latest edition is out this week and even includes updates on how to use Threads, which is owned by IG owner Meta. One of the authors, Corey Walker, returns for Episode 706 of "The Business Storytelling Podcast" to let us know what's new. Join us and grab a copy here: https://amzn.to/3OycX2H
Dec 06, 202424:08
705: How to earn an audience for your podcast

705: How to earn an audience for your podcast

Tom Webster, author of "The Audience Is Listening: A Little Guide to Building a Big Podcast" joins me on Episode 705 of "The Business Storytelling Podcast" to share what he has learned about how to grow a podcast (i.e. earn audience) and then keep it. Join us and grab a copy of his book here: https://amzn.to/4eRo95n
Dec 05, 202424:05
704: What podcasters must know about the new FTC Deceptive Ad Rules

704: What podcasters must know about the new FTC Deceptive Ad Rules

Gordon Firemark, The Podcast Lawyer™, returns to "The Business Storytelling Podcast" for Episode 704 to discuss the impact of the new FTC rules on podcasters.Join us and feel free to listen to his previous appearance on Episode 253 here: https://lnkd.in/ge_n9Jmy Grab his book here: https://amzn.to/3OoUDZY
Dec 04, 202425:57
BONUS: How I secure my eye-level webcam with a stand

BONUS: How I secure my eye-level webcam with a stand

Eye-level cameras help us create the illusion that we look right at the other person. It's a great way to make sure the video podcast episode looks as intimate and friendly as it can. Listening to this on a podcast network without video? Go here: https://amzn.to/3CSG7Hr Grab the products mentioned here: https://amzn.to/3CSG7Hr
Dec 01, 202401:29
703: What is the future of content marketing?

703: What is the future of content marketing?

Leave your prediction in the comments! What does the future hold? Adaptive content marketing? AI-only? More video? George Chasiotis, founder of Minuttia and other companies, joins me on Episode 703 of "The Business Storytelling" to discuss just that.
Nov 22, 202424:35
702: Taking the Leap to Self-Employment

702: Taking the Leap to Self-Employment

Thinking about going solo? Find out if it’s the right path for you and discover the steps to get started on your own terms. Liz Steblay, author of "Succeeding as a Solopreneur: Six Keys to Taking the Leap, Winning Clients, and Building Wealth" joins me for Episode 702 to share what should be considered and how to make it work. Join us and grab a copy of her book here: https://amzn.to/3Cxu4iB
Nov 22, 202424:40
701: What does digital transformation really mean?

701: What does digital transformation really mean?

Good question. And technology orchestrator Tom Altman joins me on this episode of "The Business Storytelling Podcast" to discuss that topic with me. Connect with Tom here: https://altuscxo.com/
Nov 14, 202422:45
700: Let's debate this: Podcast seasons or no seasons?

700: Let's debate this: Podcast seasons or no seasons?

Michael Buzinski, who has podcast seasons on his show, returns for this special 700th episode of "The Business Storytelling Show" for a very debatable topic. Should your podcast have seasons or not? He says yes, I say no. What do you think? Join us. Check out his podcast here: buzzworthymarketing.show
Nov 12, 202424:07
699: AI Marketing and the Law: What Marketers Need to Know

699: AI Marketing and the Law: What Marketers Need to Know

AI tools are easy enough to use - in theory. And certainly we've talked plenty about content quality, using AI as a copilot - not an auto pilot - for certain things. But how about the legal side of things. What do marketers need to know, remember and keep top of mind? Mitch Jackson - lawyer, keynote speaker and expert on the topic - joins me for Episode 699 of "The Business Storytelling Podcast" to discuss just that. Join us. Connect with Mitch: https://mitch-jackson.com
Nov 09, 202424:23
698: How to actually cater to your audience

698: How to actually cater to your audience

Everyone talks about creating content and experiences for their audience, their target buyer, persona, whatever. But how do we really know who they are? Looking at data and online behavior is certainly one way, but have you ever considered a qualitative research study to really get to the bottom of some of their core problems? Isabelle Landreville, president and chief insight seeker at Sylvestre & Co., joins me on Episode 698 of "The Business Storytelling Podcast" to talk about that topic. Join us. Connect with Isabelle and her company here: http://sylvestreco.com
Nov 05, 202424:09
697: What works today in word of mouth marketing?

697: What works today in word of mouth marketing?

Word-of-mouth marketing expert Suzanne Reilley joins me on Episode 697 to discuss the age-old topic of word-of-mouth marketing. But, it's also still a thing today. So let's find out how companies can use it to their advantage. What works and what doesn't? Join us. Connect with Suzanne: www.suzannereilley.com
Nov 01, 202423:38
696: How product, brand marketing, and content marketing work together

696: How product, brand marketing, and content marketing work together

Teamwork makes the dream work - so they say. And that also includes the different marketing teams in a company. Product, brand and content marketing and everyone else - how they work together can drive results so much more and even more efficiently. But how do you enable that kind of culture? And the answer better not be MORE meetings. Integrated marketing leader Samantha Rideout joins me on Episode 696 of "The Business Storytelling Podcast" to discuss just thatJoin us.
Oct 24, 202424:06
695: What is scorecard marketing and how does it work?

695: What is scorecard marketing and how does it work?

The method and the madness of marketing. On Episode 695 of "The Business Storytelling Podcast" I'm joined by Maxwell Nee, a go-to-market expert to discuss the topic. Join us. Grab the scorecard marketing book here: https://scorecardmarketingbook.scoreapp.com
Oct 22, 202422:44
694: Solving problems in broken businesses

694: Solving problems in broken businesses

How to solve problems and especially when there are more than enough issues in a business? Chris Davenport II joins me on Episode 694 of "The Business Storytelling Podcast" to discuss that topic. Join us. Connect with Chris: https://chd2.com/
Oct 21, 202423:37
BONUS: How to book your appearance on The Business Storytelling Podcast

BONUS: How to book your appearance on The Business Storytelling Podcast

Ready for your conversation with Christoph Trappe? Book your time here: https://www.christophtrappe.com/sponsored-podcast-booking/
Oct 20, 202403:17
693: How to use AI for brand visibility

693: How to use AI for brand visibility

AI can be used for all kinds of things, and that includes improving brand visibility - certainly a good thing! But how does that work? Whitney L. Barkley, an AI strategist, joins me on Episode 693 of "The Business Storytelling Podcast" to share just that. Join us. Connect with Whitney at learnwithwhitney.com
Oct 17, 202423:43
692: Accessibility in podcasting

692: Accessibility in podcasting

After the last episode of "The Business Storytelling Podcast" on accessibility, now let's dive into accessibility specifically in podcasting. What does that entail and what do you - as the podcaster - need to know? Dominique Dunlop, Web Accessibility Consultant & Advocate, joins me on Episode 672 to discuss that topic. Connect with her here: http://dominiquedunlop.com
Oct 12, 202422:41
691: Why you can't overlook accessibility in your marketing

691: Why you can't overlook accessibility in your marketing

Donna Bungard, CPWA, an inclusion leader, disability advocate, and senior marketing accessibility program manager at Indeed, joins me on Episode 691 of "The Business Storytelling Podcast." She discusses the importance of actually implementing the right accessibility strategies, why it matters so much, and what goes into creating an accessibility roadmap.
Oct 10, 202424:04
BONUS: Is your marketing saying things that can't be unheard?

BONUS: Is your marketing saying things that can't be unheard?

Is your marketing saying things people can't unhear? Tamsen Webster's new book on how to do that is coming out now! Here's my top takeaway. Grab your copy here: https://amzn.to/3XQGQj3
Oct 02, 202400:44
690: AI-Powered Storytelling: Personalizing Your Business Narrative

690: AI-Powered Storytelling: Personalizing Your Business Narrative

Good business storytelling can help companies set themselves apart. And personalization makes things more relevant to the consumer. So, how about combining the two? How does it look to use AI to tie your business story into your prospective customer's story to create a hyper-personalized narrative? Dan Sanchez, podcast marketing and automation expert, joins me on Episode 690 of "The Business Storytelling Podcast" to discuss just that .Join us to find out how it all works. Connect with Dan at https://aidrivenmarketer.com
Sep 18, 202424:17
689: How to write for the busy reader

689: How to write for the busy reader

Or else they won't read your content. But how? Todd Rogers, author of "Writing for Busy Readers: Communicate More Effectively in the Real World" joins me on Episode 689 of "The Business Storytelling Podcast" to discuss just that. Join us and grab a copy of his book here: https://amzn.to/4d47wCy Use this AI tool to improve your writing: http://writingforbusyreaders.com/ai/
Sep 13, 202424:51
688: The narratives that connect us to our customers

688: The narratives that connect us to our customers

Brett Townsend, SVP at Quester and co-author of "Insights on the Brink" joins me to talk about his new book and the importance of understanding and then participating in consumer narratives. Why is this such an underused strategy? Join us to find out. And grab a copy of his book here: https://www.amazon.com/vdp/07edb980516e4ffbb641567c60141a11?product=B0D9KLLZ6J&ref=cm_sw_tw_r_ib_dt_s2XhZ9k6WLCVp
Sep 10, 202424:25
687: The role of psychology in marketing

687: The role of psychology in marketing

Of course, all of my buying decisions are completely rational. No impulse or need for social alignment will ever get me to buy anything. Pfft. But of course, that's not how the reality of life works and marketers need to understand what the role of psychology in marketing is and how it affects what they are currently working on. Hunter Thurman, president of Alpha-Diver, which uses data and behavioral science to to drive consumer interest and action, joins me on Episode 687 of "The Business Storytelling Podcast" to discuss the topic. Join us. Read Hunter's article on the topic here: https://alpha-diver.com/psychology-and-marketing/
Sep 09, 202425:09
686: Corporate behaviors that turn customers away - huh?

686: Corporate behaviors that turn customers away - huh?

Sounds silly, I know, right? Why would companies do things that turn customers away - especially when those customers are the customers they would want? David Avrin, author of "Ridiculously Easy to Do Business With : A practical guide to giving customers what they want--when and how they want it" joins me on "The Business Storytelling Podcast" to talk about that. Join us. Grab a copy of his book here: https://amzn.to/3z3I2XZ
Sep 06, 202424:04
BONUS: How I got press credentials to the NFC Championship game

BONUS: How I got press credentials to the NFC Championship game

In 2000, as the St. Louis Rams were the greatest show on turf with Kurt Warner I was able to experience how NFL media worked and even had creditentials to the NFC Chammpionship game. Here's what I learned and here's where my career has led.
Sep 06, 202409:28
685: Decision-making in marketing - do you remember last year's decision?

685: Decision-making in marketing - do you remember last year's decision?

We all make decisions nonstop, but what are they based on other than our vague recollection of previous decisions? How can we level up decision-making in marketing? On Episode 685 of "The Business Storytelling Podcast," I'm joined by Erik Larson, of Cloverpop, author of the HBR decision-making checklist, to discuss that topic. Learn more about Cloverpop: http://cloverpop.com
Sep 04, 202423:57
684: What's the current state of buyer trust in the purchasing process?

684: What's the current state of buyer trust in the purchasing process?

When buyer trust is lacking, companies can lose money. Who wants to buy from a less than trustworthy company? It's a spectrum, I suppose. TrustRadius discussed the topic in its Buyer Research Report, and Allyson Havener, SVP of Marketing and Community, joins me on Episode 684 of "The Business Storytelling Show" to discuss it. Join us and download the full report: https://solutions.trustradius.com/vendor-blog/2024-b2b-buying-disconnect-the-year-of-the-brand-crisis/ Let's find out the current state of buyer trust and how to improve it.
Aug 30, 202424:06
683: When does it make sense to learn how to code?

683: When does it make sense to learn how to code?

Should I learn how to code as a content marketer? How about taking my kids to code camps or the like? What are the different levels of coding? Updating HTML: is that coding? Felienne Hermans, Professor of Computer Science Education at Vrije Universiteit in Amsterdam, and I unpack. that topic on Episode 683 of "The Business Storytelling Show." Connect with her here: felienne.com Grab a copy of her book here: https://amzn.to/3AL7LF9
Aug 28, 202424:02
682: How to do better content testing

682: How to do better content testing

Content testing has certainly come a long way. From technology to better analytical skills on content and marketing teams, the level of content testing has moved on up and with good reason: How else would teams be able to tell if their content is even working. To discuss that topic further, I chat with Erin Del Ponte, a marketing executive who is a steward for accurate attribution and incrementality of investments. Join us for Episode 682 of "The Business Storytelling Show" to find out how to level up your content testing.
Aug 27, 202423:05
681: How to scale AI in content strategy

681: How to scale AI in content strategy

Some new tools can eat up more time than is helpful. Certainly, that can be the case when it comes to testing and testing and testing new AI tools and processes. But at some point, the AI-powered process will either make things more efficient or help drive more results. So how to scale AI is the question I tackle with Jeff Coyle on Episode 681 of "The Business Storytelling Show." Join us. Try Market Muse to scale your content quality at http://marketmuse.com. Use promo code 15muse
Aug 23, 202424:14
680: Is an AI avatar of myself a good idea?

680: Is an AI avatar of myself a good idea?

Certainly, some people would argue that just myself is enough (or too much). Ha. But there might be some really good reasons - including business ones - to create an AI avatar or clone. And what's the difference between an AI avatar and a clone? Helen Todd, an expert on how to collaborate with AI, joins me on Episode 680 of "The Business Storytelling Show" to discuss the topic. Join us. And listen to Helen's podcast on AI here: https://creativitysquared.com
Aug 16, 202424:18
679: How to not let corporate life overtake your whole life

679: How to not let corporate life overtake your whole life

It's easy enough to just go, go, go. There's one more piece of content that can be worked on, but we need balance to thrive and probably even survive. Clement Decrop, author of "The Idea Space: The Science of Awakening Your Non-Self," joins me on Episode 679 of "The Business Storytelling Show" to discuss that topic. Join us and grab a copy of his book here: https://amzn.to/3LXkRRQ
Aug 15, 202423:17
678: The difference between a patent, copyright, and trademark

678: The difference between a patent, copyright, and trademark

Do you know the difference? And, most importantly, which one do you need? Trademark Angel CEO Anita Mar joins me on Episode 678 of "The Business Storytelling Show" to explain. Join us. File your trademark with Trademarkangel.com ---- This episode is produced by Trappe Digital LLC, hosted by Christoph Trappe, and supported by Oscar Hamilton, your podcast partner.
Aug 07, 202423:38
677: Why brand first

677: Why brand first

Brand and marketing expert Stefan Maritz joins me on Episode 677 of "The Business Storytelling Show" to discuss why creating a meaningful brand and then getting it out there must come first. Join us.
Aug 06, 202423:18
676: Using AI to drive e-commerce conversions

676: Using AI to drive e-commerce conversions

One way to do that is by predicting consumer behavior online and then reacting in a way that creates value for the customer and revenue for the company. Aurangzeb Agha of Metrical, Inc. and I will discuss how to do that on Episode 676 of "The Business Storytelling Show."Join us. --- This episode is produced by Trappe Digital LLC, hosted by Christoph Trappe, and supported by Metrical, your behavioral customer engagement solution.
Jul 31, 202423:52