Curious Cousins OK Podcast
By Curious Cousins OK
Curious Cousins OK PodcastMay 03, 2024
Ep 83 Franklin Delano Floyd pt 2
This week Tiff wraps up the gruesome and horrific life of crime of one Franklin Delano Floyd. Last week, we left off where Franklin was awaiting trial on a burglary and assault case out of OKC. But what Franklin does while released is the true stuff of nightmares. September 12, 1994 would be a day many students at Indian Meridian Elementary School in Choctaw remember to this day. That is the day that Floyd waltzed into the school and kidnapped, not only the school principal, James Davis, but also Floyd’s “son” Anthony Michael Hughes. Even though Principal Davis would be found alive, Michael would never be seen, dead or alive, again. You read that right…Michael has never been found.
But that is only the tip of this episode’s iceberg. When the truck Floyd stole from Principal Davis that day in September is auctioned off, authorities receive a very peculiar phone call…It seems Floyd abandoned the truck without cleaning out some pretty convincing evidence. Meanwhile, while unusual and disturbing photos are being investigated in Kansas and Oklahoma, the skeletal remains of Cheryl Ann Commesso were discovered on the side of a highway in Florida. What could these two stories possibly have in common, you ask? Commesso was a known coworker and friend of Floyd’s deceased wife and Michael’s mother, Tonya Hughes…aka Sharon Marshall…aka Suzanne Sevakis.
As this knot of lies, abuse, crime, and evasion from police starts to unravel so does the truth behind just who Tonya is, and how depraved Franklin was.
Listener Discretion is advised. This is part 2 of a 2 parter over Franklin Delano Floyd.
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Ep 82 Franklin Delano Floyd pt 1
If you’ve watched Netflix's documentary “Girl in the Picture” (2022), you will be familiar with this week’s true crime dive. But do you really know the Oklahoma connections to this story? Franklin Delano Floyd may have a presidential sounding name, but he certainly didn’t have the charm and qualities to go with it. Stemming from a ROUGH childhood, Floyd made multiple life choices that were, well, bad. In part 1, Tiff dives into Franklin Floyd’s troubled past before he really left his mark in Oklahoma’s dark history.
Listener Discretion is advised. This is part 1 of a 2 parter over Franklin Delano Floyd.
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Ep 81 University of Oklahoma Spooks
This season seems to be all about the school spooks! Jess jumps back into looking for ghosts and haunting tales, but this time, she stops in at the University of Oklahoma. From dog burials in the football field, to a rolling skating spirit in the old infirmary, OU doesn’t disappoint when it comes to keeping it kooky and spooky! As one of the three universities necessary for statehood (UCO, OSU, and OU), its rich tradition is due to its rich, and long history.
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“Campus Ghosts of Norman, Oklahoma” by Jeff Provine
“Haunted Oklahoma” by Jeff Provine
University of Oklahoma Website
Ep 80 I-40 Bridge Diaster
With the recent tragedy in Baltimore, Maryland involving the Francis Scott Key Bridge, it reminded Tiff of a similar tragedy here in Oklahoma back in 2002…
The morning of Sunday, May 26, 2002, started as a normal day for many, until a tragic bridge collapse on the i40 bridge over the Arkansas River in Webbers Falls, OK shocked everyone. The accident resulted in 14 fatalities, 5 injuries, and extensive damage, with an estimated $30.1 million in losses. The collapse, caused by the captain's loss of consciousness possibly due to an abnormal heart rhythm, had far-reaching impacts, affecting families, communities, and leading to emergency response efforts involving multiple agencies, volunteers, and fishermen. Recovery and reconstruction efforts were swift, showcasing the Oklahoma spirit of unity.
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Ep 79 Tracey Nielson
Most 21st birthdays are celebrated with fun filled evenings of pub crawls and fun times. At 21, most of us were more worried about where everyone was going Thursday night. No one plans for their 21st birthday to be their last birthday. But for one coed, that’s exactly what it was. Tracey Diane Neilson, born on January 5, 1960, was a woman known for her vibrant personality. She excelled in academics and sports, and exhibited a passion for life. She went on to join Pi Beta Phi Sorority at Oklahoma State University, where she met her future husband, Jeff Neilson, a pre-med student. They married in July 1980, and moved to Moore so Jeff could attend medical school; Tracey transferred to the University of Oklahoma. In the newlyweds’ apartment, on her 21st birthday, January 5, 1981, Tracey was found horrifically stabbed over 20 times. Despite extensive investigations by authorities, including a task force and technological advancements years later, her killer and motive remained elusive. Details emerged about YEARS LATER, but no conclusive leads were generated. Jeff Neilson and Tracey's family continued to seek closure, offering various rewards over the years for any information leading to the apprehension of her murderer.
Jess’ case this week is an unsolved, cold case. For any information regarding Tracey Neilson's murder, contact the Oklahoma State Bureau of Investigation at 800-522-8017 or email tips@osbi.ok.gov.
Sources:
https://oklahomacoldcases.org/tracey-neilson/
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/65142250/tracey-diane-neilson
https://morbidology.com/who-killed-tracey-neilson/
https://medium.com/@jennbaxter_69070/the-horrific-murder-of-tracey-neilson-46c2e27f0040
Ep 78 Pale Crawlers
Are you a fan of mysterious creatures that may or may not exist? I’m talking, one in the company of wendigos, Moth Man, and BigFoot? Then Tiff has a story for you! The mysterious Pale Crawlers are mystifying entities that emerge at night. These humanoid creatures are thin, pale, and possess sharp claws, long limbs, and large black eyes, appearing fast, stealthy, and smart. They are commonly found in dark and eerie places, especially where evil activities occur, seeking shelter in shadows or dark areas to avoid sunlight that burns their pale skin. Pale Crawlers are known to mimic voices, access memories, and feed off fear, with abilities to camouflage, jump to great heights, and even manipulate thoughts. People encountering them often experience fear, obsession, and nightmares afterward, believing the creatures attach themselves like parasites to their souls. Escaping or combating them is challenging, requiring avoidance of interaction, prayers, and extreme measures like headshots with firearms. So before you decide on a late night stroll, take heed to the many sightings around our state, and decide if that midnight walk is worth it or not…
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Ep 77 Lucille Mulhall
It is a bold statement to say that one woman changed the course of rodeo history in Oklahoma, but if anyone fits that description, it is Lucille Mulhall.
Lucille Mulhall, born in 1885, grew up on a ranch in Oklahoma, showing remarkable talent in riding horses and roping at a very young age. Despite her desire to focus on ranch work, her mother insisted she attend school. Lucille's skills with horses and roping led to her becoming a renowned cowgirl, excelling in competitions and eventually performing in Wild West shows alongside notable figures like Will Rogers and Tom Mix. She even gained national attention when Theodore Roosevelt invited her to his inaugural parade.
As Lucille's career blossomed, she traveled extensively, winning competitions and gaining recognition as a skilled horsewoman. She faced challenges, including a decline in her career due to a controversial incident in a Chicago show. Despite setbacks, she continued to break barriers for women in rodeo, establishing herself as a pioneer in the sport and opening doors for future female competitors. So saddle up with Jess as she brings us the remarkable, glass-ceiling shattering COWGIRL Lucille Mulhall!
Sources:
“The 101 Ranch” by Ellsworth Collings and Alma Miller England
“Along Came a Cowgirl” by Chris Enss
“Oklahoma Originals” by Jonita Mullins
“Oklahoma Rodeo Women” by Tracey Hanshew
Ep 76 Gary Alan Walker
On May 6, 1984, Eddie Cash, a kind-hearted man from Broken Arrow, was tragically murdered by Gary Alan Walker, a spree killer with a troubled history of abuse and criminal behavior. Walker's background was marked by a childhood filled with abuse, hospitalizations for his behavior, and a string of criminal activities leading up to his murderous spree. His crimes involved robbery, assault, rape, and murder, leaving a trail of victims in his wake. Over a span of several days, Walker wreaked havoc across multiple states, terrorizing and harming innocent individuals like Jayne Hilburn, Janet Jewell, Valerie Shaw-Hartzell, and several others.
Ultimately, Walker was apprehended by law enforcement, brought to trial, and convicted for his heinous crimes. He was sentenced to death and multiple life terms in prison for the brutal murders and assaults he committed. Despite various appeals and legal proceedings, Walker met his demise through a lethal injection in January 2000. His destructive spree, fueled by violence and depravity, left a lasting impact on the communities and families of his victims, showcasing the chilling consequences of unchecked criminal behavior and mental health issues.
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Ep 75 Spiro Mounds
This week, Jess take us to one of Oklahoma’s oldest Native American sites. Spiro Mounds is a significant prehistoric Native American site, evolved from a small village to a key center during the Mississippian Culture era. The site consisted of twelve mounds, ceremonial spaces, and a support city for Caddoan-speaking leaders. Notable for its wealth and artifacts, especially from the burial mound Craig Mound, Spiro Mounds attracted interest but faced looting in the 1930s. Efforts in the 1930s and later by the University of Oklahoma and Works Progress Administration involved excavations that revealed rich burials, artifacts, and the site's historical importance.
But we are here for the kooky and spooky this week! The Spiro Mounds site, aligned with the equinox, showcased remarkable artifacts, including effigy pipes and treasures unearthed in the Great Mortuary Mound. While celebrated for its archaeological richness, the site also carried eerie legends of phantom wagons, mysterious occurrences, and a rumored curse akin to King Tut's tomb. Despite challenges like looting and destruction, ongoing efforts by various institutions aim to preserve and repatriate artifacts. So follow along, or go visit, if you dare…
Sources:
Haunted Oklahoma by Jeff Provine
Myths and Mysteries of Oklahoma by Robert L. Dorman
Weird Oklahoma by Wesley Treat
Tulsa’s Haunted Memories by Teri French
Oklahoma Historical Society https://www.okhistory.org/publications/enc/entry.php?entry=SP012 https://www.okhistory.org/sites/spiromounds
Ep 74 Dr. Ada Lois Sipuel Fisher
As we close Black History Month, Tiff gives the story of Dr. Ada Lois Sipuel Fisher, born in Chickasaw on Feb 8, 1924. Dr. Fisher was a pivotal figure in the civil rights movement in Oklahoma. Her parents, survivors of the 1921 Tulsa Race Massacre, played a significant role in the Black community. Despite Oklahoma's segregated laws, Ada aspired to become a lawyer and challenged the system by applying to the University of Oklahoma's law school in 1946. Represented by Thurgood Marshall, she fought a three-year legal battle that resulted in the landmark case Sipuel v Board of Regents of the University of Oklahoma. This case led to the mandate that Oklahoma must provide Ada Fisher with the same educational opportunities as other citizens.
After finally being admitted to the University of Oklahoma's College of Law in 1949, Ada faced continued discrimination but persevered. Her trailblazing efforts opened doors for future African American students at OU and across the nation. Despite the challenges she faced, Ada went on to graduate from OU Law in 1952 and later earned a master's degree in history. Throughout her career, she worked as a law practitioner, faculty member at Langston University, and ultimately retired as the assistant vice president for academic affairs. Dr. Ada Lois Sipuel Fisher's legacy of courage and determination in the face of adversity continues to inspire many, and she was posthumously inducted into the Oklahoma Women's Hall of Fame in 1996.
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Ep 73 Disappearances of Charlotte Kinsey & Cinda Pallett
Since 1907, the annual State Fair of Oklahoma has attracted visitors from near and far. But in 1981 two 13-year-old friends, Cinda Pallett and Charlotte Kinsey, went missing from the fairgrounds. They were last seen accepting a job offer to help a male carnival worker unload stuffed animals from a truck. Despite extensive search efforts, including eyewitness reports and suspect descriptions, the girls were never found. The prime suspect, a known predator with a history of violence, was charged but the case was eventually dismissed due to lack of physical evidence. The mystery of Charlotte and Cinda's disappearance remains unsolved, haunting their families and investigators to this day. Follow along as Jess details the accounts from witnesses, family members, and detectives, all who worked tirelessly to find closure on this case.
Since this is still an open case, those with information regarding the case are asked to contact the Oklahoma State Police at 405-231-2121 or the Oklahoma City Police Department at either 405-297-1129, 405-297-1290, 405-297-1288 or 405-297-1000. Tips can also be called into the Oklahoma State Bureau of Investigation at 1-800-522-8017 or 405-427-5421 and the FBI’s Oklahoma City office at 405-290-7770.
Sources:
The Disappearances of Charlotte Kinsey & Cinda Pallett https://storiesoftheunsolved.com/2021/06/01/the-disappearances-of-charlotte-kinsey-cinda-pallett/
- Decades-old Oklahoma State Fair-related disappearance case remains unsolved https://www.oklahoman.com/story/news/crime/2022/09/21/case-of-missing-girls-from-1981-oklahoma-state-fair-remains-unsolved-cinda-pallett-charlotte-kinsey/69506580007/
Oklahoma Cold Cases https://oklahomacoldcases.org/charlotte-kinsey/
The Charley Project https://charleyproject.org/case/charlotte-june-kinsey, https://charleyproject.org/case/cinda-leann-pallett
KOCO news article https://www.koco.com/article/oklahoma-fairground-kidnapping-charlotte-kinsey-cinda-pallett/45109287
Ep 72 OSU Spooks
The Oklahoma State University System consists of six educational institutions in Oklahoma, including the flagship institute, Oklahoma State University–Stillwater. OSU, founded in 1890 under the Morrill Act, is a public land-grant research university. While known for its academic and athletic achievements, OSU is also known for its spooky tales and rumored hauntings. Various locations on campus, including fraternity and sorority houses, the Bartlett Center, Student Union, Edmon Low Library, Williams Hall, and Old Central, have reported paranormal activities. These sightings include apparitions, mysterious sounds, moving objects, and temperature fluctuations. Many of these stories involve tragic events or unexplained occurrences that have left a lasting imprint on the campus. But don’t take our word for it…just read the numerous articles OSU’s own library has collected on all the things going “bump in the night” around campus!
Sources:
Images of America: Stillwater by Stan Tucker
Haunted Oklahoma by Jeff Provine
Tulsa’s Haunted Memories by Teri French
“The Spooks of Williams Hall” by Jan Berry Feb. 2, 1969 for the Daily O’Collegian
"Is Old Central haunted?" Oct. 20, 2012 by KChris Griffin for the Daily O’Collegian
"Haunted buildings on OSU's campus" Oct. 29, 2017 by Nhan Doan for the Daily O’Collegian
Ep 71 Kellyville Train Wreck of 1917
This week, Jess recounts a tragic event that occurred on September 28, 1917. A passenger train collided with an empty troop train near Kellyville, resulting in the death of 32 people and injuries to over 50 others. The majority of the fatalities occurred in the Jim Crow car, which was designated for African Americans due to segregation laws. The collision was attributed to a misunderstanding of orders and the running of the troop train in two sections.
The aftermath of the train wreck led to changes in passenger car construction laws, particularly that of prohibiting the use of wood in train car construction. The old metal bridge where the collision occurred can still be seen near the modern bridge on Route 66. It’s rumored the spirits of the victims still linger along the old railway tracks today…
Sources:
“Kellyville, Oklahoma - Small Town America” Legends of America
“Tragic Railroad Accident of 1917” from theroute-66.com
“The Archivist: A Tragic Anniversary” from The Oklahoman
“27 Die When Trains Crash At Kellyville” from RootsWeb
Ep 70 Eugene Monroe
Tiff likes to call this week’s episode an oldie but a goodie. So jump into the way-back machine, and strap in for a true roller coaster of a case. Eugene Monroe was born in 1931 in Tulsa and had a troubled childhood, being placed in an institution at a young age. Throughout his life he seemed to run on the wrong side of the law. By the time he was finally put away at the Big Mac in 1951, Eugene was suspected of 3 murders, numerous assaults, and even some burglaries . There are even suspicions that he may have been a serial killer, with evidence linking him to multiple murders and rapes in Tulsa during the 1940s and 1950s. We hope you don’t get motion sick!
Sources:
Was Eugene Monroe a Serial Killer? By J’amie Rubio Aug. 1, 2017
The Tulsa Tribune (28 July 1951)
Ep 69 Ghosts of UCO
This week, Jess takes us to her alma mater for the spooky and kooky.
The University of Central Oklahoma has a rich history dating back to the late 1800s, and with that history comes some spooky tales and ghostly encounters. From the haunted Mitchell Hall Theatre to the eerie occurrences in Old North, there are plenty of ghost stories to keep you on edge. The University House, Murdaugh Hall, and even the Y-Chapel of Song all have their own mysterious happenings that have left students and staff with chills down their spines.
But the ghostly tales don't stop there. The campus is also home to the legend of 'Bronchy' the Broncho Lake Monster, and even has a history of illegal burials on the school land that may have left restless spirits behind.
Whether you're a believer in the supernatural or not, the stories and legends surrounding the University of Central Oklahoma are sure to send shivers down your spine. So, the next time you find yourself on campus, keep an eye out for any unexplained occurrences and maybe you'll have your own ghostly encounter to share with your favorite cousins.
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Ep 68 Native Freedmen
Hey cousins! This week, Tiff tackles a topic that was “news” to her; Native Freedmen. A freedman is a term used to refer to African-American men and women who were former slaves. This included enslaved people of the Native American tribes, in Oklahoma, before and after the American Civil War. The Cherokee, Choctaw, Chickasaw, Creek, and Seminole nations all held enslaved Africans and were required to emancipate their slaves and offer them citizenship in their tribes after the Civil War. These Native Freedmen were to be given full rights as Native citizens. However, many freedmen faced discrimination and challenges in obtaining full citizenship and rights within their respective tribes. The Dawes Rolls, which were used to assign allotments to tribal members, also played a role in determining the citizenship of freedmen. Despite ongoing struggles, many freedmen have continued to fight for equal legal status and recognition within their tribes. Join us as Tiff discusses the plight of these people, while looking at both sides of the coin.
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Wikipedia Freedmen; Cherokee Freedmen Controversy; Choctaw Freedmen; Creek Freedmen; Dawes Rolls; Seminole Nation; Chickasaw Nation; Black Seminoles
Oklahoma Freedman of the Five Tribes by Angela Y Walton-Raji
Freedmen by the OK Historical Society
Muscogee Nation Judge…by NPR
Ep 67 Logan Tucker pt 3
This week, Jess wraps up the senseless and tragic case of Logan Tucker. Unfortunately, this case doesn’t have that nice, pretty wrap-up we like to see. Jess dives into the trial of Kathrine Rutan, reporting on witness testimony, forensics, and speculation…remember…there was, and still is, no body. Despite everything, a family was dramatically changed that day in late June of 2002. And today, that family, as well as the community of Woodward, are left with more questions than answers…still. Where is Logan? And why? If you have any information, I know the Woodward Police Department and Woodward County Sheriff's Department would love to hear from you.
Listener Discretion is advised.
Sources:
Articles from The Oklahoman, The Enid News and Eagle, News On 6
The Center for Missings persons at ncmissingpersons.org
The Charley Project at charleyproject.org
“Legal and Investigative Strategies for a ‘No Body’ Homicide, by Chris L. Ross, District Attorney, 22nd District, State of Oklahoma from the Journal of the Association for Crime Scene Reconstruction
Talkswithholly.medium.com
“Looking for Logan Tucker” podcast from the The Oklahoman
Ep 66 Logan Tucker pt 2
Continuing from last week, Jess dives into the investigation of Katherine Rutan and the disappearance of 6 year old Logan Tucker. The amount of stories this woman had to keep straight regarding the whereabouts of her child will just blow your mind! Investigator Monty Clems, with the help of not only the FBI, but the citizens of Woodward and other surrounding communities, made it his life mission to find the missing boy. Though Logan’s body was ultimately never located, an indictment of murder was served. This episode is a roller coaster of emotions, so buckle up cousins!
Listener Discretion is advised.
Sources:
Articles from The Oklahoman, The Enid News and Eagle, News On 6
The Center for Missings persons at ncmissingpersons.org
The Charley Project at charleyproject.org
“Legal and Investigative Strategies for a ‘No Body’ Homicide, by Chris L. Ross, District Attorney, 22nd District, State of Oklahoma from the Journal of the Association for Crime Scene Reconstruction
Talkswithholly.medium.com
“Looking for Logan Tucker” podcast from the The Oklahoman
Ep 65 Logan Tucker pt 1
This week, Jess brings us another listener request; the disappearance and murder of Logan Tucker. Logan went missing the summer of 2002 from his home in Woodward, OK. However, leading up to this disappearance, Logan’s mother reported Logan as being troubled and a danger to his family. Although no one seemed to be able to corroborate this, DHS was scheduled to pick Logan up for evaluation at a mental health facility. Yet, Logan was never picked up or placed in DHS’s care. After several weeks, and an uncle asking for a welfare check, it was discovered Logan was missing. When mother Katherine Rutan reported Logan as camping with another uncle, law enforcement became very suspicious. This tale is a roller coaster ride of stories…none of which could appear or seem to be true!
Listener Discretion is advised.
Sources:
Articles from The Oklahoman, The Enid News and Eagle, News On 6
The Center for Missings persons at ncmissingpersons.org
The Charley Project at charleyproject.org
“Legal and Investigative Strategies for a ‘No Body’ Homicide, by Chris L. Ross, District Attorney, 22nd District, State of Oklahoma from the Journal of the Association for Crime Scene Reconstruction
Talkswithholly.medium.com
“Looking for Logan Tucker” podcast from the The Oklahoman
Ep 64 Dead Woman's Crossing
When urban legends are built on truth, some pretty creepy things can happen. Take Weatherford’s own Dead Woman’s Crossing. When the mysterious disappearance and murder of Mrs. Katy DeWitt James happens in 1905, stories from an estranged husband and mystery men and women all fight for a spot on the suspect list. And when the prime suspect unexplainably poisons herself, IN HER JAIL CELL, more questions just seem to come forth. Ride along with Tiff as she tells the tale of Mrs. James’ murder, the disappearance of her child, and the hard working private investigator who refused to give up, even when trails abruptly ended. When the dust settles, spirits are unsettled, perhaps still seeking the justice they so deserve.
Sources:
Ghostlahoma by Tonya Hacker and Tammy Wilson
Dead Woman’s Crossing by Atlas Obscura (https://www.atlasobscura.com/places/dead-woman-s-crossing
Dead Woman’s Crossing by Becky Ray for KC Ghosts (https://www.kcghosts.com/oklahoma-dead-woman-s-crossing)
Tulsa Daily Democrat, Aug 3, 1905
“Father Offers Reward; No Trace of Mrs. Katy James can be found”- Pryor Creek Clipper, Aug 5, 1905;
The Shawnee Herald- “Mrs. Katy James’ Body Discovered” Aug. 31, 1905
Ep 63 Black Kettle & the Washita Massacre
As Oklahomans, we are familiar with the stories of how the various Native people came to live and be associated with our state. In most cases, ok, probably all, the government swore peace and other provisions through various treaties with Native tribes. Today’s story is one of those. Enter Chief Black Kettle of the Southern Cheyenne. Famous for stressing the importance of peace, and finding ways to live harmoniously with the ever growing population of white settlers, Black Kettle sought out ways to be nonviolent. Unfortunately, after several lies and broken treaties, many of his tribe members were frustrated. To gain the upper hand, and more land, and to simply rid the area of Natives, a one, Colonel George Custard would enter the scene, leading to one of Indian Territories deadliest battles; the Washita Massacre. Jess tells of the stories of a brave and peace-loving chief, simply trying to do what’s best for his people, all while battling an ambitious American government.
Sources:
“Little Known Tales in Oklahoma History” by Alton Pryor
“It Happened In Oklahoma” by Robert L. Dorman
Battle of the Washita
Washita Battlefield National Historic Site, Oklahoma
https://www.legendsofamerica.com/ok-washitabattlefield/
Washita Battlefield
https://www.nps.gov/waba/learn/historyculture/index.htm
Black Kettle
https://history.denverlibrary.org/colorado-biographies/black-kettle-1807-1868
Biography of Black Kettle
https://www.nps.gov/sand/learn/historyculture/black-kettle-biography.htm
Ep 62 Gregory Canatis
This week, your favorite cousins bring you a doozy of a case. It is little known, but it was brought to light by a relative of the victim and perpetrator…The Oklahoma Cannibal. Yes, you read that correctly. Tiff dives into the disturbing case of Gregory Canatis. Was he suffering from a mental health break? Did he simply snap one day? This case is still very obscure, but extremely complex. For years the family has wondered what happened to Uncle Ted. And why did Cousin Greg do what he did? Give us your thoughts on the case….master manipulator or victim of undiagnosed and uncared for mental health disorder?
Listener discretion is VEHEMENTLY advised.
Sources
The Oklahoma Cannibal by The True Crime Blog
The Daily Oklahoman
Tulsa World
Ep 61 Wheelock Academy & Belle Isle
Now that autumn is winding down and winter is amping up, it’s time to get cozy and comfy…and listen to some ghost stories! This week, your favorite cousins tell you about the dark history and spirits associated with both the Wheelock Academy/Missions in Millerton and the Belle Isle in Oklahoma City.
Like many Native American schools during the late 1800s and early 1900s, Wheelock started out with good intentions, but ended with several accounts of mental, physical, and emotional abuse. With this being done on children, you can only imagine the energies that remain around the campus.
Oklahoma City is home to many long-forgotten sites. Belle Isle seems to be one of the biggest sites of former glory in our capital city. Belle Isle started as a way to power our turn of the century streetcars, but ended up being the center of entertainment for those living and working in the city in the early 1900s. At its height in the 1920s, Belle Isle boasted not only the powerplant, but a lake, amusement park, restaurants, and numerous other pleasurable enjoyments for folks. However, when coal power was replaced with electricity and gasoline, the Belle Isle fell into disrepair. Numerous tragedies befell the area, which provides for several generations of ghouls and ghosts.
So snuggle up! The chills may not only come from the colder weather…
Sources:
Haunted Oklahoma by Jeff Provine
Weird Oklahoma by Wesley Treat
Choctaw Nation of Oklahoma by Donovin Arleigh Sprague
Wheelock Mission and Academy from Oklahoma Historical Society at okhistory.org
Wheelock Academy Historic Site from Choctaw Nation of Oklahoma Cultural Services
Wikipedia
Wheelock Mission from Haunted Places.org
Meet 11 Ghosts From Oklahoma and Their Bone-Chilling Stories from OnlyInYourState.com
Wheelock Mission in Oklahoma from ahauntedplace.com
Wheelock Mission - Real Haunts in Millerton, OK from OklahomaHauntedHouses.com
Ghosts & Legends of OK by Mike Ricksecker
Haunted OKC by Jeff Provine & Tanya McCoy
Belle Isle Park by Metropolitan Library https://www.metrolibrary.org/archives/essay/2019/07/belle-isle-park
Belle Isle Park by City of OKC https://www.okc.gov/departments/parks-recreation/parks-trails/ward-2-parks/belle-isle-park
Most Haunted Places in OKC by Haunted Rooms America https://www.hauntedrooms.com/oklahoma/okc/haunted-places
The Daily Oklahoman
Ep 60 Dust Bowl pt 2
Part 2 of the Dust Bowl is out now! Your favorite cousins wrap up their deep dive into one of our state’s biggest natural disasters…although…was it really natural? You be the judge!
The Dust Bowl not only literally reshaped parts of our landscape, but it also reshaped cultural regions around the US. Many “Okie” influences can still be found in parts of California.
So while digesting your turkey and all the “fixins” let your two favorite cousins wrap up a story for you…and share us with all your loved ones!
Sources:
“The Dirty Thirties: A History of the Dust Bowl” by Howard Brinkley
“Little Known Tales in Oklahoma History” by Alton Pryor
“The Dust Bowl” from the National Drought Mitigation Center: University of Nebraska, www.drought.unl.edu
“Dust Bowl” from Oklahoma Historical Society at okhistory.org
Wikipedia: The Dust Bowl https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dust_Bowl
“It happened in Oklahoma” by Rober L Dorman
“Main Street Oklahoma” edited by Linda W Reese and Patricia Loughlin
Small Business Shout-outs:
Ep 59 Dust Bowl pt 1
Back on schedule for your favorite two cousins! This week, Jess and Tiff cover part 1 of an historical look at the Dust Bowl. Jess covers the geographic history of the region affected by the Dust Bowl as well as the actual storms and drought. Tiff takes a look at the decisions that went into the great migration, and how the government tried to provide relief. Check out some of our really great resources to find out more info regarding one of the darkest times in American and Oklahoman history.
Sources:
“The Dirty Thirties: A History of the Dust Bowl” by Howard Brinkley
“Little Known Tales in Oklahoma History” by Alton Pryor
“The Dust Bowl” from the National Drought Mitigation Center: University of Nebraska, www.drought.unl.edu
“Dust Bowl” from Oklahoma Historical Society at okhistory.org
Wikipedia: The Dust Bowl https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dust_Bowl
“It happened in Oklahoma” by Rober L Dorman
“Main Street Oklahoma” edited by Linda W Reese and Patricia Loughlin
Ep 58 Ethics w/Sirens Podcast
We are taking a break from our regular programming to bring you this special episode your favorite cousins participated in last Spring.
Jess and Tiff met up with Raven and Mandy from Sirens: A Southern True Crime Podcast, and author of Hell in the Heartland, Jax Miller. In a roundtable discussion, your favorite cousins and their podcasting sisters discuss the purpose of ethically reporting true crime cases. Jax Miller gives her insight when doing research for books based off true crime cases. Please enjoy our roundtable discussion. Please feel free to leave a message with your own thoughts and opinions.
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Ep 57 Lindley Hospital
As the spooky season winds down, your favorite cousins bring you a tale of their most recent spooky and kooky adventure…Paranormal Investigating at Lindley Hospital in Duncan.
If you remember, Jess and Tiff went on their first paranormal investigation back on Friday, October 13. Guided by the folks at Haunted Oklahoma, they were treated to the thrills, chills, and spirits at Lindley Hospital and Clinic. From a feisty male spirit, to possibly two children, lots of bumps and creaks, and even a scream, Jess and Tiff were given an experience they won’t soon forget!
Please check out our new friends/cousins over at Haunted Oklahoma (and set up your next paranormal investigation trip), Paranormal Wasteland, and Spooky Okie!
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Ep 56 Phyllis Jean Warren pt 4
This week, Jess concludes our 4 parter over the mysterious, tragic, and brutal death of little Phyllis Jean Warren. After a forced confession, botched evidence, and a public defender with something to prove, the case quickly starts to unravel. Listen along as Jess outlines the pretrial and actual trial drama of Buster Youngwolfe. And let us know what your thoughts and theories are regarding this gruesome crime!
Listener discretion is advised.
When
Sources:
“Oklahoma’s Atticus: An Innocent Man and the Lawyer Who Fought for Him”, by Hunter Howe Cates
“Oklahoma’s Atticus: One Lawyer’s Fight for Justice in New Book” by James D. Watts Jr. Nov 17, 2019, Tulsa World
“Family Ties: Oklahoma’s Atticus is a Tale of Two Tulsas” by Jezy J. Gray Nov 6, 2019 updated June 5, 2020.
Ep 55 Phyllis Jean Warren pt 3
Well cousins, Jess’s 3 parter has now turned into a 4 parter! This week, part 3 will go over the investigation…if you want to call it that. Law enforcement zeroed in on one particular individual, and like a tale as old as time, sought only to get the answers they believed…all without taking evidence into consideration. Listen now as Jess describes police work that almost mimics other famous cases like West Memphis Three or even the Girl Scout Murders.
Listener discretion is advised.
When
Sources:
“Oklahoma’s Atticus: An Innocent Man and the Lawyer Who Fought for Him”, by Hunter Howe Cates
“Oklahoma’s Atticus: One Lawyer’s Fight for Justice in New Book” by James D. Watts Jr. Nov 17, 2019, Tulsa World
“Family Ties: Oklahoma’s Atticus is a Tale of Two Tulsas” by Jezy J. Gray Nov 6, 2019 updated June 5, 2020.
Ep 54 Phyllis Jean Warren pt 2
On another day, much like today (Friday the 13th), one mother’s nightmare was awaiting her when she awoke. Phyllis Jean Warren was missing, her bed never being slept in the night before. After a slow to start search effort got underway, Phyllis’s case quickly escalated to a missing person’s case that gripped Tulsa County. But law enforcement had their eyes on one guy in particular; family friend, Buster Youngwolf. Jess takes us through the maze that was the search for little Phyllis. In this second part, the search efforts seemed well focused and determined one minute, and the next, lackluster and minimal at best. So strap in! This bumpy ride just keeps hitting those “pot holes”.
Listener discretion is advised.
When
Sources:
“Oklahoma’s Atticus: An Innocent Man and the Lawyer Who Fought for Him”, by Hunter Howe Cates
“Oklahoma’s Atticus: One Lawyer’s Fight for Justice in New Book” by James D. Watts Jr. Nov 17, 2019, Tulsa World
“Family Ties: Oklahoma’s Atticus is a Tale of Two Tulsas” by Jezy J. Gray Nov 6, 2019 updated June 5, 2020.
Ep 53 Phyllis Jean Warren pt 1
Most of us cousins have read the American classic “To Kill a Mockingbird” by Harper Lee. But did you know that a real-life version of that story happened right here in Oklahoma?
North Tulsa today is seeing a revitalization of the area. In the past, it was known for its crime and poverty, but in recent years, the city has been making waves, trying to improve the area. But as far back as the 1950s, that area of Tulsa was looked down upon by the upper echelon of downtown and midtown Tulsa. When 11 year old Phyllis Jean Warren winds up missing and later murdered, residents thought it would be an open and shut case. However, not all things are what they seem. With hints of such famous cases as that which Author Harper Lee outlined in her novel, and real life cases, like the West Memphis Three, this case really highlights the prejudice of the times…and how in some cases, police don’t want to do the investigative work if they can find a fall guy.
Jess begins this 3 parter with background of the North Tulsa area and who both victims were; little Phyllis Warren and her “supposed” murderer Buck Youngwolfe. Strap in. This is going to be a bumpy ride!
Listener discretion is advised.
When
Sources:
“Oklahoma’s Atticus: An Innocent Man and the Lawyer Who Fought for Him”, by Hunter Howe Cates
“Oklahoma’s Atticus: One Lawyer’s Fight for Justice in New Book” by James D. Watts Jr. Nov 17, 2019, Tulsa World
“Family Ties: Oklahoma’s Atticus is a Tale of Two Tulsas” by Jezy J. Gray Nov 6, 2019 updated June 5, 2020.
Ep 52 RSU & Eskridge Hotel
Your favorite cousins are kicking off spooky season with two great locals! Tiff covers the history and spooks at Rogers State University in Claremore, and Jess explores the tea-spilling past of the Eskridge Hotel in Wynnewood…a hotel where many residents have either never checked out OR keep visiting ...even after death! With lots of shadowy spirits and strange sounds, we hope you get some chills!
Sources:
TravelOk.com
TravelTips.USAToday.com
Okpri.com (Oklahoma Paranormal Research and Investigation
Oklahoma’s National Register of Historic Places
Eskridge Hotel - waymarking.com
Ghostly Tales of Oklahoma 66 by Legends of America (https://www.legendsofamerica.com/66-okghosts/)
Rogers State University by Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rogers_State_University)
Rogers State University by OK Haunted Houses (https://www.okhauntedhouses.com/real-haunt/rogers-state-university.html)
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Ep 51 Bonnie & Clyde
Want a little more outlaw action this week? Well, have we got a good story for you! In part two, of our season premier, Tiff covers the infamous, the scandalous, the often compared, but never duplicated, outlaw couple of BONNIE AND CLYDE!
The ups and downs this couple experienced….whew! From the couple’s very humble beginnings, to their meet cute, to the thrill of the chase, Bonnie and Clyde live in history as the dynamic duo of crime, love, and murder. Even though these two aren’t actual Oklahomans, some of their favorite stomping grounds were right here in the Sooner State.
So get ready. This story is what Hollywood movies are made of…literally…
Source Material:
100 OK Outlaws, gangsters and lawmen 1839-1939 by Daniel Anderson, Laurence Yadon, and Robert Barr Smith
Oklahoma Tall Tales Uncovered by Joe M Cummings
Oklahoma Scoundrels by Robert Barr Smith and Laurene J Yadon
Ep 50 Flora Quick & Earnest Lewis
We’re baaaaaaccccckkkkk!!
Hey cousins! After a month off, Jess and Tiff are ready to hit the trails running, bringing our favorite cousins the darkest of histories, kookiest of spooks, and thrillingest of true crimes…all from here, the Sooner State.
So strap into Season 2. We kick it off going back to where it all began…OUTLAWS!
In this two parter, Jess starts us out by diving into one of Oklahoma’s first law-breaking couples; Flora Quick, aka Flora Mundis, aka Tom King, and her very brief, but thrilling lover Earnest “Killer” Lewis. Being horse thieves at the end of the 19th century/beginning of the 20th century was a “hangin” offense in the Oklahoma and Indian Territories. But somehow, our lovely lady was able to escape prosecution SEVERAL times. One short stay in jail brought the star crossed lovers together, bonding over plans for future robberies. But all wasn’t meant to be, and a single failed train holdup signaled doom for the fast friends.
Source Material:
“Wild Women of the West: Flora Mundis” by Chris Enns from cowgirlmagazine.com, July 27, 2022
“Outlaw Tales of Oklahoma” by Robert Barr Smith
“100 Oklahoma Outlaws, Gangsters, and Lawmen” by Dan Anderson & Laurence Yadon
“Flora Quick aka Tom King” by Marshall Trimble from truewestmagazine.com, August 31, 2015
Ep 49 Girl Scout Murders pt 4
Part 4 of the Girl Scout Murders
Your favorite cousins have reached the end of their deep dive into the Girl Scout Murders of Camp Scott. Our emotions have literally reached the limit. This case pulls at heartstrings, it causes us to get irrationally upset, and in the end, it devastates us knowing these 3 young girls had their whole lives ahead of them…hopes…dreams…
This episode will cover everything AFTER the trial of Gene Leroy Hart. We will discuss a lot of opinions…please note…they are OUR opinions. We would love to hear your thoughts too!
Also, this is our season 1 finale! We are going to take off the rest of August and some of September. Please stay tuned to our socials (fb, ig, twitter/x?). We will stay active and let you know when season 2 will drop.
Thank you so much for supporting us in our Beginning Era! You all have simply been just the best! We hope to keep you all entertained, informed, and a part of our family. Bigger and better things are planned for season 2. We love you all! Thank you!!
Curious Cousins OK is written and produced by Jess Burnett and Tiff Murray
Cover Art is by Jess Burnett and Tiff Murray
Our intro/outro music is It Comes to This by Moments
Ad music is Skittles and Lobsters by Dresden, the Flamingo
All our source material is linked in each show’s show notes.
Sources: The Camp Scott Murders by CS Kelly; OK’s Most Notorious Cases by Kent Frates; Remembering Camp Scott by OSU; Abandoned OK.com; Campscottmurders.com; girlscoutmurders.com; The Horrifying Oklahoma Girl Scout Murders Remain Unsolved 45 Years Later by Cat McAuliffe for Ranker.com; Tulsa World; New York Times; Shattered Justice by JD Morrison
Ep 48 Girl Scout Murders pt 3
Part 3 of the Girl Scout Murders
This week, your favorite cousins split up part 3; Jess covers the 10 month long manhunt from prime suspect Gene Leroy Hart. Tiff covers the usual preliminary hearing and resulting weeks-long trial. Evidence mysteries, turncoats, and drama that would have been home in a Hollywood film plagued this case. It quickly became the “case of the century” for Oklahoma, even though it gripped the nation.
As always, please use listener discretion. This subject is tough.
Sources: The Camp Scott Murders by CS Kelly; OK’s Most Notorious Cases by Kent Frates; Remembering Camp Scott by OSU; Abandoned OK.com; Campscottmurders.com; girlscoutmurders.com; The Horrifying Oklahoma Girl Scout Murders Remain Unsolved 45 Years Later by Cat McAuliffe for Ranker.com; Tulsa World; New York Times; Shattered Justice by JD Morrison
Ep 47 Girl Scout Murders pt 2
Part 2 of the Girl Scout Murders
Jess focuses on suspect #1; Gene Leroy Hart. Hart was a petty thief when he started his criminal career. Then, one evening, Hart decided to k!dnap and assault two pregnant Tulsa women. Found guilty, he served time, yet was released, just to resume his life of crime. The similarities between Hart's first crime and the crime against the 3 Girl Scout victims was eerily spooky. Hart's vast knowledge of the Locus Grove area and his mother living within a mile of the camp put him immediately on law enforcement's list persons of interest.
As always, please use listener discretion. This subject is tough.
Sources: The Camp Scott Murders by CS Kelly; OK’s Most Notorious Cases by Kent Frates; Remembering Camp Scott by OSU; Abandoned OK.com; Campscottmurders.com; girlscoutmurders.com; The Horrifying Oklahoma Girl Scout Murders Remain Unsolved 45 Years Later by Cat McAuliffe for Ranker.com; Tulsa World; New York Times; Shattered Justice by JD Morrison
Ep 46 Girl Scout Murders pt 1
Well cousins, the time has come. We are doing a big one. The next couple of weeks, your favorite cousins will be covering one of Oklahoma’s biggest true crime cases to come out of the Sooner state. This case has been requested several times by various listeners (sorry, I won’t list them all). This week, Tiff introduces us to the Camp Scott Murders, better known as the Girl Scott Murders.
In Part 1, Tiff draws upon a glorious summer camp experience that was supposed to be. However, the nightmare that ensued really does bring the kooky and spooky camp ghost stories to life. This part follows the brutal murders of 3 young girls from the Tulsa area and the following days as law enforcement tries to gather evidence and look for any clues as to why and who.
Sources: The Camp Scott Murders by CS Kelly; OK’s Most Notorious Cases by Kent Frates; Remembering Camp Scott by OSU; Abandoned OK.com; Campscottmurders.com; girlscoutmurders.com; The Horrifying Oklahoma Girl Scout Murders Remain Unsolved 45 Years Later by Cat McAuliffe for Ranker.com; Tulsa World; New York Times
Ep 45 Ft Reno & Labadie Mansion
Rumor has it this week’s episodes will bring a little chill to our hot, humid weather!
Tiff explores the spooky history behind Ft. Reno. Starting as a fort in Indian Territory to help protect the native population in the area, many scuffles had to be squashed so everyone could live in SOMEWHAT harmony. The fort was quickly converted into a POW camp during World War 2, where hundreds of German and Italian soldiers were homed. The energy surrounding the land is just ripe for spirits!
Jess takes on the kooky legends, myths, and reports regarding the mysterious Labadie Mansion in Copan. This perplexing home rife with mystery and rumor…none adding up to truth. Was there an affair? Did Mr. Labadie murder a newborn? Was the family forced out of an upstairs window, only to plummet to their death? Or was the family just your typical, well-to-do folks who lived quietly in the country So quietly that neighbors had to fabricate stories…and are there spirits still lurking around protecting (or bolstering) the secrets? You be the judge!
You can schedule your own Ft. Reno ghost tour here: http://www.fortreno.org/ghost-tours/
Pick up a copy of one of our favorite spooky books!
Haunted Oklahoma by Jeff Provine: https://a.co/d/bWpub5f
Ghosts and Legends of Oklahoma by Mike Ricksecker: https://a.co/d/ajdcRAI
Tulsa’s Haunted Memories by Teri French: https://a.co/d/1Lvyubf
Haunted El Reno by Tanya McCoy and Whitney Wilson: https://a.co/d/b1LK5Rh
Ep 44 Krebs Mining Accident & Cold War OK
Oklahoma has its share of dark times throughout history. Oftentimes, this great state shares those dark times with the entire nation. This week, Jess explores the Krebs Mining Accident from 1892. Visiting Krebs today, one wouldn’t know it was the site of Oklahoma's worst mining accident. Gross disregard for miner’s safety and overall safety protocols, as was the case in many mining accidents across the United States, led to this horrific disaster which killed some 100 men and injured nearly 200 more.
With the ups and downs in Russia these days, Tiff delved into how our state contributed to the Cold War. From nuclear missile sites to fallout shelters to starting the nation’s civil defense classes, Oklahoma helped defend our country during the 40+ years of unrest between the two superpowers.
If you would like more info on Cold War Oklahoma, check out SWOSU Professor of History Landry Brewer’s book “Cold War Oklahoma” here.
Ep 43 Nannie Doss pt 2
If last week’s part 1 didn’t give you the willies, maybe this week’s will. Jess wraps up her deep-dive into the Giggling Granny, aka, Nannie Doss, by going through her trial. Nannie continued to wow and stun authorities with her bizarre behavior and flirtatious attitude towards the entire ordeal. How will these exploits be received in the courtroom? Guess you’ll have to listen to find out!
Oh! And we hope this doesn’t have you questioning your sweet ole granny’s cakes…we know 98% of grandmas are the perfect angels! Ours included!
Double Oh! Here is the link to the YouTube video (thank you, @peahix!!) with the interview of Nannie in prison. Let us know how you feel after watching! Make sure to pay attention to her eyes and smile…
Ep 42 Nannie Doss pt 1
Most people probably have warm, fuzzy feelings about their grandmas. Your favorite cousins do! Her warm, tasty cookies…nice, loving hugs…Never does the thought of POISON cross people’s minds when reminiscing about little, old grannies. Or maybe it does…Perhaps if you were a member of Nannie Doss’s family that’s exactly what you’d think!
This week’s episode Jess tackles the Giggling Granny herself. The original Black Widow. The Lonely Hearts Killer. Lady Bluebeard: Nannie Doss.
In part 1, Jess tells us all about Nannie’s background…all FIVE husbands, her children, and her grandchildren. Nannie moved around the USA, seeking out her ultimate fairytale romance. But did she find it here in Tulsa? Guess you better listen to find out!
Ep 41 Grisso Mansion & Masonic Children's Home
Old, spooky homes are the best, am I right? This week, your favorite cousins explore the paranormal happenings at two former homes; the Grisso Mansion of Seminole and the former Masonic Children’s Home (now Dominion House) in Guthrie. Footsteps and sounds abound in these two places where energies are HIGH! From the sounds of former servants and other Natives going about their daily business, to the running and giggling of energetic children, you won’t be disappointed in the ghouls!
To watch the YouTube video that Jess references, click here, (The Grisso Mansion by Native Boys Productions.
Ep 40 Cherokee Bill and Judge Isaac Parker
It’s time to take it back to our roots! How about another episode dedicated to an infamous Oklahoma outlaw and the man who tried to bring them to justice?
Tiff dives into the infamous life of Crawford “Cherokee Bill” Goldsby. For only living 20 years, he lived a life you’d only think was possible through a Hollywood script. Jess then takes over covering the one, the only, Judge Isaac Parker…aka…The Hanging Judge. This judge sat on the bench of many infamous outlaws’ cases…sentencing many to hang high!
Ep 39 Patrick Henry Sherrill
Thanks for bearing with us as we devliever this week’s episode late!
Tiff tells the frightening tale of Patrick Henry Sherrill, infamous Oklahoman who’s terrible act coined the phrase “going postal”. Diving into Sherrill’s life paints a picture of undiagnosed mental health issues. Sherrill appeared mostly fine on the outside, but when exploring deeper, patterns can be observed that today would have been cause for concern and cries for help. His loneliness paired with a possibly obsessive/addictive personality meant Sherrill didn’t receive social cues or messages like most of the public. When unchecked, it clearly leads to tragedy.
If you are suffering please seek help! It isn’t something to be embarrassed or ashamed about! We all could use therapy…ALL of us!
National Mental Health Hotline | 866-903-3787
NAMI HelpLine | NAMI: National Alliance on Mental Illness 800-950-6264.
Dial 988 in Oklahoma to talk to someone directly. Especially if you are in an emergency mental health crisis…harm yourself or others
- Mental Health Association of Oklahoma: Contact us anytime Monday-Friday from 8:30 a.m. – 5 p.m. at (918) 585-1213, (405) 943-3700 or using the form found on mhaok.org
Ep 38 Oklahoma Witchcraft w/Sirens Podcast
Jess and Tiff are taking a break this week, but have we got a treat for you all!
In this episode, your favorite cousins teamed up with the Sirens: A Southern True Crime Podcast to talk about some DARK Oklahoma history. Did you know about 200 years AFTER the famous Salem Witch Trials, Oklahoma had at least TWO of their own? Tiff talks about the infamous Oklahoma Witchhunter himself, Mr. Solomon Hotema, a well respected, well rounded, Choctaw man. Suffering from, what one can now only believe to be trauma from the loss of a child, Hotema sought out the help of a medicine man. This medicine man told Hotema that witches were to blame for the death of his child, and many others (when in fact, it was an outbreak of meningitis). Believing this, Hotema and two others took the "law" into their own hands one afternoon. In another trial, Jess covers the horrific trial of an old Seminole or Miccosukee (part of the Creek Nation) woman. In a account largely from the school teacher at We-Wo-Ka Government Mission School, Jess retells of the horrors and inhuman treatment of the "prisoner" believed to be a witch. Several newspaper accounts boasted how much we as people had learned between the 200 years after the hysteria of Salem...but did we really learn anything? Or did history, like is typical, repeat itself?
Ep 37 Mayo Hotel & McBride House
Are you ready to listen to tales of things that go bump in the night? This week, your favorite cousins explore two haunted sites; the Mayo Hotel of Tulsa and the McBride House of Ft. Gibson. While the McBride House no longer offers up hotel stays, you can bet you will still come across Ft. Gibsoners that will tell you of the kooky and spooky going on in their town, and in that house! But, if you can’t access Ft. Gibson in real-life, pick of current owner Cecila Back’s book “Ghosts of the McBride House ''. She gives chilling details of the haunts her family endured during their 25+ year occupancy of the home. (It does still stand today, however, it appears to be uninhabited, but still owned by the Back family)
The Mayo Hotel was at one time the crown jewel of Tulsa hotels. Modeled after the Ritz in NYC, The Mayo provided luxurious stays for the rich and famous. Unlike many snazzy hotels, this one seems to have little dark history behind it! The rising costs in renovation led to the hotel closing its doors, and staying that way for roughly 30 years. Thankfully, Tulsa’s iconic hotel has seen a revitalization, and it just might house more than your weary traveler…
Check out Cecila Back’s book “Ghosts of the McBride House” here.
Ep 36 Abandoned Hospitals
This week, your favorite cousins explore places super kooky and spooky…abandoned hospitals! Jess explores Cottonwood Manor in Yukon, while Tiff takes a trip up the turnpike to Vinita to Eastern State Hospital. Using pictures from Abandoned Oklahoma, you can see just how creepy some of these places were that were supposed to provide help to the innocent, and not so innocent. So sit back and listen to the tales…and probably be thankful you didn’t have to go to either hospital!
Abandoned OK’s Eastern State Hospital Pics
Abandoned OK’s Cottonwood Manor Pics
Ep 35 Death of Jake Hamon pt 2
Jess concludes the soap-opera-like story of Jake Hamon and his lover Clara Smith Hamon. The ups and downs in this case will spin your head! But even more shocking…the conclusion of the trial..and the path lives take afterwards. Remember, Jake and Clara were lovers for 10 years when Jake’s wife’s cousin’s husband (take a breath now) became President of the United States. Jake, ever looking for his next means to elevate his status, dumped Clara to resume life with his wife and family. While breaking up at an Ardmore hotel, Jake suddenly stumbles down stairs with a bullet wound, stating it had been self-inflicted. But could that be? Was this couple known to get physical at times? And what were those marks on Clara’s neck? Grab your ticket and some popcorn too (you’ll get this pun during the episode! lol) for the conclusion of this Hollywood-worthy tale.
Ep 34 Death of Jake Hamon
Time for an old-timey tale! Jess takes us back to the early 1900s, when Oklahoma’s wild west was being won! This week, Jess dives into the mysterious murder of Jake Hamon. Jake was a well-known Oklahoman…well-known as an attorney, politician, oil-man, and womanizer. Being married with two children didn’t stop ole Jake from having a TEN YEAR long affair with his shopkeeper turned business partner Clara Smith Hamon. But wait…her last name was Hamon too? How did that happen? And how did Jake end up shot at the hotel he was staying at, awaiting the arrival of his wife and children, so they could move to Washington DC because the OG Mrs. Hamon’s cousin was elected president (or at least the cousin’s husband was)? Check out part 1 of this 2 part, Jess-irific series. This story may just be too good for real-life! Wait…is that Hollywood calling???