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Off The Cutting Room Floor

Off The Cutting Room Floor

By Joss Hoskinson
A bite-sized film (and entertainment) history podcast, released in quick, digestible chunks!

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105 - What Have I Done? - The Unwritten Ending

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"I never heard anything about fraud..." | Season Two (Teaser)
Season Two. Featuring Josh from Rumor Flies. Coming soon. Follow Rumor Flies on Twitter @RumorFlies. Cassette sound effect (which has been extended) is by Bertrof on freesound.org. https://freesound.org/people/Bertrof/sounds/351567/
00:16
October 6, 2020
Teaser | Season Two
Season Two. Featuring Hunter from Murder and Such. Coming soon(ish). Follow Murder and Such on Twitter @MurderandSuch. Cassette sound effect (which has been extended) is by Bertrof on freesound.org. https://freesound.org/people/Bertrof/sounds/351567/
00:18
June 7, 2020
Walt Disney and the Missing Mickey Footage (That Isn't Explicit)
In this meaty off-season episode, we examine the history of live-action reference at the Walt Disney Studio and a long lost Mickey Mouse film. (No, not that one!) Main source: The book Disney Animation: The Illusion of Life (later republished as The Illusion of Life: Disney Animation) by by Frank Thomas and Ollie Johnston. Podcast promo: Unsolved Mysteries: Solved?, a comedy podcast that every week, brings a new unsolved or unexplained mystery to the table, discusses it, and then solves it. Theme music is the track "always slept so soundly" by serisu, off the EP domestications. Follow Off The Cutting Room Floor @OTCRoomPod everywhere, and support the show on Patreon at https://www.patreon.com/josshoskie Got corrections? Suggestions? Just want to get in touch? Tweet me @josshoskie or send an email to cuttingroompod@gmail.com. To view transcripts, and corrections, visit cuttingroompod.tumblr.com Cassette sound effect (which has been extended) is by Bertrof on freesound.org. https://freesound.org/people/Bertrof/sounds/351567/ SOURCES: Wikipedia ("The Pointer," "Marge Champion," "The Walt Disney Company," "Sweat box," "Maila Nurmi") A Brief Introduction To: Hattie Noel, the Reference Model for Fantasia’s Hyacinth Hippo. the-disney-elite.  November 1, 2017. "See the Real Life Models for Your Favorite Disney Characters." TheFW. Sara Franks-Allen. October 21, 2014. Alice in Wonderland, 5Oth Anniversary Edition, Blu-ray. Bobby Driscoll – Neverpedia, the Peter Pan wiki IMDB (One Hour in Wonderland, The Magical World of Disney) "Mickey’s montage." Variety. Nick Madigan. Jun 18, 1998
18:24
April 16, 2020
Off The Cutting Room Floor (Trailer)
A bite-sized film (and entertainment) history podcast, released in quick, digestible chunks! Season One: Little Shop of Horrors, out now!
00:44
April 14, 2020
Season One Update: Howard's Thoughts
"Making a film out of a musical is an exercise in stupid." SOURCES: Near complete transcript of Howard's April 28, 1987 lecture The Oxford Handbook of Musical Theatre Screen Adaptations, chapter 9, “Little Shop of Horrors: Breaking the Rules All the Way to the Big (Enormous, Twelve-inch) Screen” by Jonas Westover
03:32
March 2, 2020
111 - That's All, Folks! - The August 22 Workprint (Pt. 2)
In the final part of our season finale, we continue our examination of Little Shop of Horrors'  original cut and ask, how definitive is The Director's Cut? The voice of Howard Ashman was Davis from Jacks of Trades (@JacksTradesPod). The voice of Frank Oz was Greg (@3tiltdat) from InDepth Media (@inDEPTHmedia and Rumor Flies (@RumorFlies). The voice of Alan Menken was Robin (@robin_warder) from The Trail Went Cold. The voice of Seymour was Ryan from Rumor Flies (@RumorFlies). The voice of Audrey was Samantha from Perhaps It's You (@PerhapsItsYou). Theme music is the track "always slept so soundly" by serisu, off the EP domestications. Follow Off The Cutting Room Floor @OTCRoomPod everywhere, and support the show on Patreon at https://www.patreon.com/josshoskie Got corrections? Suggestions? Just want to get in touch? Tweet me @josshoskie or send an email to cuttingroompod@gmail.com. To view transcripts, and corrections, visit cuttingroompod.tumblr.com Cassette sound effect (which has been extended) is by Bertrof on freesound.org. https://freesound.org/people/Bertrof/sounds/351567/ SOURCES: Howard Ashman papers, Library of Congress (Full list of sources coming soon!)
12:52
February 14, 2020
110 - It's a Disaster! - The August 22 Workprint (Pt. 1)
This week, in the first part of our season finale, we begin our examination of Little Shop of Horrors'  original cut and the transition to a more happy ending. The voice of Howard Ashman was Davis from Jacks of Trades (@JacksTradesPod). The voice of Frank Oz was Greg (@3tiltdat) from InDepth Media (@inDEPTHmedia and Rumor Flies (@RumorFlies). The voice of Alan Menken was Robin (@robin_warder) from The Trail Went Cold. The voice of David Geffen was Rob (@YerUFOGuy) from Our Strange Skies (@OurStrangeSkies) and The Coda: A Music Podcast (@thecodapodcast). The prologue variations were read by Garrett (@TygerbugGarrett), founder of Orange Cow Productions. Theme music is the track "always slept so soundly" by serisu, off the EP domestications. Follow Off The Cutting Room Floor @OTCRoomPod everywhere, and support the show on Patreon at https://www.patreon.com/josshoskie Got corrections? Suggestions? Just want to get in touch? Tweet me @josshoskie or send an email to cuttingroompod@gmail.com. To view transcripts, and corrections, visit cuttingroompod.tumblr.com Cassette sound effect (which has been extended) is by Bertrof on freesound.org. https://freesound.org/people/Bertrof/sounds/351567/ SOURCES: Howard Ashman papers, Library of Congress Due to character limitations, a full list of other sources can be found here.
13:14
February 14, 2020
Regarding the Season Finale
See you next week. 😉 The voice of The Director is Greg from InDepth Media.
00:19
February 7, 2020
109 - All Gone (Plants From Beyond the Cosmos)
With apologies to Logan, this week on Off The Cutting Room Floor, we're taking a look at Little Shop's original finale. Or, wait, was it an opening? The voice of Howard Ashman was by Davis from Jacks of Trades (@JacksTradesPod). The voice of Logan was Maxwell from Relic: The Lost Treasure Podcast (@LostTreasurePod). The Twilight Zone note was read by Garrett, founder of Orange Cow Productions. Special thanks to Josh from Rumor Flies (@RumorFlies). Theme music is the track "always slept so soundly" by serisu, off the EP domestications. Follow Off The Cutting Room Floor @OTCRoomPod everywhere, and support the show on Patreon at https://www.patreon.com/josshoskie Got corrections? Suggestions? Just want to get in touch? Tweet me @josshoskie or send an email to cuttingroompod@gmail.com. To view transcripts, and corrections, visit cuttingroompod.tumblr.com Cassette sound effect (which has been extended) is by Bertrof on freesound.org. https://freesound.org/people/Bertrof/sounds/351567/ SOURCES: Screenshot of "It's definitely an early opening..." comment "Again, my source is Howard Ashman's papers" comment Howard Ashman audio cassette collection, Library of Congress Howard Ashman papers, Library of Congress
05:57
January 31, 2020
108 - Alaska? - A Dinner With The Dean
This week on Off The Cutting Room Floor, we're taking it easy and answering the question... "Alaska?" The voice of Howard Ashman was by Davis from Jacks of Trades (@JacksTradesPod). The voice of Seymour was Ryan from Rumor Flies (@RumorFlies). The voice of Audrey was Samantha from Perhaps It's You (@PerhapsItsYou). Special thanks to Liz, also from Perhaps It's You. Theme music is the track "always slept so soundly" by serisu, off the EP domestications. Follow Off The Cutting Room Floor @OTCRoomPod everywhere, and support the show on Patreon at https://www.patreon.com/josshoskie Got corrections? Suggestions? Just want to get in touch? Tweet me @josshoskie or send an email to cuttingroompod@gmail.com. To view transcripts, and corrections, visit cuttingroompod.tumblr.com Cassette sound effect (which has been extended) is by Bertrof on freesound.org. https://freesound.org/people/Bertrof/sounds/351567/ SOURCES: Howard Ashman papers, Library of Congress
05:07
January 24, 2020
107 - Is You Quite Finished? - The Second Screenplay Draft
This week on Off The Cutting Room Floor, we're taking a look at the one moment when the film reflected the musical score. The voice of Howard Ashman was by Davis from Jacks of Trades (@JacksTradesPod). The voice of Seymour was Ryan from Rumor Flies (@RumorFlies). Special thanks to Greg from InDepth Media. Theme music is the track "always slept so soundly" by serisu, off the EP domestications. Follow Off The Cutting Room Floor @OTCRoomPod everywhere, and support the show on Patreon at https://www.patreon.com/josshoskie Got corrections? Suggestions? Just want to get in touch? Tweet me @josshoskie or send an email to cuttingroompod@gmail.com. To view transcripts, and corrections, visit cuttingroompod.tumblr.com Cassette sound effect (which has been extended) is by Bertrof on freesound.org. https://freesound.org/people/Bertrof/sounds/351567/ SOURCES: Howard Ashman papers, Library of Congress
11:28
January 17, 2020
106 - We'll Have Tomorrow
This week on Off The Cutting Room Floor, we're taking a look at the one decision I think Howard Ashman got completely wrong. The voice of Seymour was Ryan from Rumor Flies (@RumorFlies). The voice of Audrey was Samantha from Perhaps It's You (@PerhapsItsYou). The voice of Alan Menken was Robin (@robin_warder) from The Trail Went Cold.  The voice of Howard Ashman was by Davis from Jacks of Trades (@JacksTradesPod). Theme music is the track "always slept so soundly" by serisu, off the EP domestications. Follow Off The Cutting Room Floor @OTCRoomPod everywhere, and support the show on Patreon at https://www.patreon.com/josshoskie Got corrections? Suggestions? Just want to get in touch? Tweet me @josshoskie or send an email to cuttingroompod@gmail.com. To view transcripts, and corrections, visit cuttingroompod.tumblr.com Cassette sound effect (which has been extended) is by Bertrof on freesound.org. https://freesound.org/people/Bertrof/sounds/351567/ SOURCES: MusicalTalk Podcast. Episode #313, "Touring Phantoms and Singing Plants (Feat. Alan Menken)" "Alan Menken, Part 2." Theater Talk. May 20, 2011. "Michael Mayer, Alan Menken, & Little Shop NYC team in conversation!" BroadwayGirlNYC Alan Menken: Interview Part 5. Broadwayshowbiz.com Radio interview with WBAI, c.1982, Howard Ashman archive, audio cassette collection, Library of Congress Howard Ashman papers, Library of Congress
06:57
January 10, 2020
(BONUS) Bigger Than the Hoola-Hoop! - Full Ending Summary
Davis from the Jacks of Trades podcast recorded a summary of Little Shop of Horror's ending, adapted from the preliminary outline for the film, for episode #105. It was then shortened in post. Here is that full summary. Enjoy. 😊
02:18
January 3, 2020
105 - What Have I Done? - The Unwritten Ending
This week on Off The Cutting Room Floor, we're taking a look at the Little Shop of Horrors ending that never was. It's uh, totally light-hearted. I promise. 😈 The voice of Howard Ashman was provided by Davis from Jacks of Trades (@JacksTradesPod). The voice of Seymour was Ryan from Rumor Flies (@RumorFlies). Theme music is the track "always slept so soundly" by serisu, off the EP domestications. Follow Off The Cutting Room Floor @OTCRoomPod everywhere, and support the show on Patreon at https://www.patreon.com/josshoskie Got corrections? Suggestions? Just want to get in touch? Tweet me @josshoskie or send an email to cuttingroompod@gmail.com. To view transcripts, and corrections, visit cuttingroompod.tumblr.com Cassette sound effect (which has been extended) is by Bertrof on freesound.org. https://freesound.org/people/Bertrof/sounds/351567/ SOURCES: “Something About Which To Be Grateful: The MGM ‘Wizard Of Oz’ Plotline We Never Got To See!” John Fricke. The All Things Oz Blog. Sep 30, 2019 “Here Are The Major Differences Between The Original Script Of ‘It’ And The Version You Saw.” Louis Peitzman. BuzzFeed News. Sep 16, 2017. Little Shop of Horrors. Licensed libretto, acting edition. Howard Ashman. 1985. Little shop of horrors, BMI session, Howard Ashman archive, audio cassette collection, Library of Congress Howard Ashman papers, Library of Congress
07:33
January 3, 2020
"Oh, maybe I won't have to do jingles anymore!"
Here is a 2012 Alan Menken quote from an interview to promote the release of Little Shop of Horrors: The Director's Cut, read by Robin Warder of The Trail Went Cold podcast. Robin can now be heard as the voice of Alan Menken in episodes 102-104 of Off The Cutting Room Floor. Source: "Interview with Alan Menken at the Little Shop of Horror's Directors Cut Round Table"
00:46
December 22, 2019
A Brief Hiatus + Schedule Announcement
Hi :) The show is going on a small hiatus for the month of December,  but fret not! The show will be back in January, with one small change. Happy Holidays and a Happy New Decade!
01:00
December 6, 2019
104 - A Little Dental Music
This week on Off The Cutting Room Floor, we're taking a look at Ashman & Menken's only foray into muzak, -- Well, at least intentionally. -- "A Little Dental Music." The voice of Howard Ashman was provided by Davis from Jacks of Trades (@JacksTradesPod). The voice of Alan Menken was Robin from The Trail Went Cold (@robin_warder). The voices of Seymour and Orin were Ryan and Josh, respectively, from Rumor Flies (@RumorFlies). Theme music is the track "always slept so soundly" by serisu, off the EP domestications. Follow Off The Cutting Room Floor @OTCRoomPod everywhere, and support the show on Patreon at https://www.patreon.com/josshoskie Got corrections? Suggestions? Just want to get in touch? Tweet me @josshoskie or send an email to cuttingroompod@gmail.com. To view transcripts, and corrections, visit cuttingroompod.tumblr.com Cassette sound effect (which has been extended) is by Bertrof on freesound.org. https://freesound.org/people/Bertrof/sounds/351567/ SOURCES: "LITTLE SHOP OF HORRORS: Cross-Pollinization!," Mondo Musicals!, 25 August 2010 Little Shop Bonus Songs. Broadway World message boards. Cut Songs – Songs that Never Made it Into Your Favorite Musicals. Musical Theatre Mash MusicalTalk Podcast. Episode #313, "Touring Phantoms and Singing Plants (Feat. Alan Menken)" Alan Menken: Interview Part 5. Broadwayshowbiz.com Howard Ashman papers, Library of Congress.
05:27
November 22, 2019
103 - Feed Me, You Nudnik! - The Original, Abandoned Score
This week on Off The Cutting Room Floor, we're taking a look at Howard Ashman and Alan Menken's original approach to Little Shop of Horrors, and the remnants that have come to light. The voice of Howard Ashman was provided by Davis from Jacks of Trades (@JacksTradesPod). The voice of Alan Menken was Robin from The Trail Went Cold (@robin_warder). Theme music is the track "always slept so soundly" by serisu, off the EP domestications. Follow Off The Cutting Room Floor @OTCRoomPod everywhere. Got corrections? Suggestions? Just want to get in touch? Tweet me @josshoskie or send an email to cuttringroompod@gmail.com. To view sources, transcripts, and corrections, visit cuttingroompod.tumblr.com Cassette sound effect (which has been extended) is by Bertrof on freesound.org. https://freesound.org/people/Bertrof/sounds/351567/ SOURCES: Persistence of Vision documentary, sourced from Wikipedia "The Animator Who Never Gave Up – The Unmaking of a Masterpiece," Summer, Edward (1996). Howard Ashman, radio interview with WBAI, c. 1982. Howard Ashman audio cassette collection, Library of Congress. Genesis of a Song: Alan Menken Breaks Down Writing His Little Shop of Horrors ‘Prologue,’ Playbill. The Anatomy of a Song (Working In The Theatre #417), The American Theatre Wing Theater Talk, "Alan Menken, Part 1," CunyTV. Howard Ashman papers, Library of Congress.
08:01
November 8, 2019
102 - The Worse He Treats Me
This week on Off The Cutting Room Floor, we're talking about that song. The voice of Seymour was provided by Ryan from Rumor Flies (@RumorFlies), Audrey was Samantha from Perhaps It's You (@PerhapsItsYou),Howard Ashman was Davis from Jacks of Trades (@JacksTradesPod), and Alan Menken was Robin from The Trail Went Cold (@robin_warder). Theme music is the track "always slept so soundly" by serisu, off the EP domestications. Follow Off The Cutting Room Floor @OTCRoomPod everywhere. Got corrections? Suggestions? Just want to get in touch? Tweet me @josshoskie or send an email to cuttringroompod@gmail.com. To view sources, transcripts, and corrections, visit cuttingroompod.tumblr.com Cassette sound effect (which has been extended) is by Bertrof on freesound.org. https://freesound.org/people/Bertrof/sounds/351567/ SOURCES: "Ever a Surprise: Remembering Howard Ashman (Part 1)," Dan Jones, Geva Journal, 14 January 2015 "LITTLE SHOP OF HORRORS: Cross-Pollinization!," Mondo Musicals!, 25 August 2010 "Why Howard Ashman's Family Thought Writing Little Shop of Horrors Was a Suicide Mission," Playbill, 1 July 2015 Little shop of horrors, BMI session, Howard Ashman archive, audio cassette collection, Library of Congress "Little Shop of Horrors: From the Cutting Room Floor," howardashman.com,  September 2017* Howard Ashman papers, Library of Congress *Unfortunately, the Feed Me message board no longer exists and I can't find an archive of the thread or Sarah's comment. However, after I wrote about what I had found about "The Worse He Treats Me," she replied and explained that the song was cut immediately after the workshop and that the song was never included in a draft of the script that was rehearsed, performed, or seen by any performers.
07:11
October 25, 2019
101 - Somewhere That's Green: The Original Draft
This week on Off The Cutting Room Floor, we're taking a look at one of musical theater's most beloved I-want songs and its origins as a love duet. The voice of Howard Ashman was provided by Davis from the Jacks of Trades podcast. Follow Jacks of Trades on Twitter @JacksTradesPod. The voice of Audrey was provided by Samantha from Perhaps It's You. Follow Perhaps It's You on twitter @PerhapsItsYou. Theme music is the track "always slept so soundly" by serisu. Follow Off The Cutting Room Floor @OTCRoomPod everywhere. Got corrections? Suggestions? Just want to get in touch? Tweet me @josshoskie or send an email to cuttringroompod@gmail.com. To view sources, transcripts, and corrections, visit cuttingroompod.tumblr.com Cassette sound effect (which has been extended) is by Bertrof on freesound.org. https://freesound.org/people/Bertrof/sounds/351567/ SOURCES: "What’s next for Barbra?,” Ladies’ Home Journal, Aug 1984, archived by Barbra Streisand Archive Howard Ashman, WBAI radio interview, c. 1982, Howard Ashman archive, audio cassette collection, Library of Congress Promotional interview for The Little Mermaid, sourced from "'Waking Sleeping Beauty' - Howard Ashman, Jodi Benson & Glen Keane" Midday Live, 1982, Howard Ashman archive, moving image collection, Library of Congress "Never-Before-Seen Pictures and Anecdotes from the Creation of Little Shop of Horrors!," 30 June 2015, Playbill Howard Ashman papers, Library of Congress
05:12
October 11, 2019
Howard Ashman on Adapting Little Shop (Season One Promo)
As a taste of what's to come in season one, here's a quote from Howard Ashman on adapting works, specifically the film The Little Shop of Horrors, into a stage musical, read by Davis from the Jacks of Trades podcast.  This quote comes from a radio interview with Ira Weitzman for WBAI. The full radio interview, featuring a performance of "Somewhere That's Green" by Ellen Greene, can be found in the Howard Ashman audio cassette collection at the Library of Congress. Follow Jacks of Trades on Twitter @JacksTradesPod. Follow Off The Cutting Room Floor @OTCRoomPod everywhere. Got corrections? Suggestions? Just want to get in touch? Tweet me @josshoskie or send an email to cuttringroompod@gmail.com. To view sources (and see any corrections), visit cuttingroompod.tumblr.com
00:57
October 4, 2019
Questioning Audrey - Little Shop Day Promo #2
Happy Little Shop of Horrors film day! In celebration, and as a taste of what's to come in season one, here's a deleted scene from a draft of the Little Shop of Horrors screenplay, dated September 27, 1985, read by Ryan, Josh, and Greg from Rumor Flies. (Oh, and me.) The draft can be found in the Howard Ashman papers at the Library of Congress. Follow Rumor Flies on Twitter @RumorFlies. Got corrections? Want to get in touch? Tweet me @josshoskie or send an email to cuttringroompod@gmail.com To view sources (and see any corrections), visit cuttingroompod.tumblr.com.
01:10
September 23, 2019
It's Only A Plant (Unused Lyric Sketch) - Little Shop Day Promo
Happy Little Shop of Horrors day! In celebration, and as a taste of what's to come in season one, here's an early, untitled lyric sketch written by Howard Ashman for Little Shop of Horrors, read by Ryan from Rumor Flies. This sketch comes from the Howard Ashman Papers at the Library of Congress. Follow Rumor Flies on Twitter @RumorFlies. Got corrections? Want to get in touch? Tweet me @josshoskie or send an email to cuttringroompod@gmail.com To view sources (and see any corrections), visit cuttingroompod.tumblr.com
00:47
September 21, 2019
What Is This? (SEASON ONE ANNOUNCEMENT)
What is Off The Cutting Room Floor going to be? And what will our first season hold? Follow the show @OTCRoomPod everywhere! Visit the show's website, cuttingroompod.tumblr.com, for sources, transcripts, and corrections. Questions? Corrections? Suggestions? Email me at cuttingroompod@gmail.com Follow me personally @josshoskie everywhere.
01:34
September 20, 2019