The Daily HiFi Podcast Dec 31, 2019
Axpona In Review | Erin Needs Driving Lessons
Erin, Channa and our video editor Tim all met up at Axpona! This is an audio accounting of what happened! Opera and Jazz might have been over used at the show for demoing speakers. Erin and Channa got mauled by fans during the show! And we take some questions!
Some House Keeping: We are now recording on Tuesday nights live, so expect the Audio Podcast put up on Thursday Mornings! Thanks for your understanding!
Magic Beans Giving Yamaha Some Love!
Well Yamaha has a few iterations of YPAO and getting Magic Beans to work with each is being worked out! Speaker wire gauge, and getting right, or at least good enough. Link Below:
https://products.electrovoice.com/na/en/cableloss/
Channa working on some videos and getting his mixing studio setup! Channa does not want a huge subwoofer, aka Klipsch 14" or larger!
April 3, 2024 Channa Will Be Live With Ken Lewis & Roc
April 3, 2024 8pm ET, go here:
Joe tests DEQ and Cinema Filter and etc from a Denon to see what they are doing. Spatial Toolkit to the rescue again, tests speaker levels from Denon when using DEQ, loudness management, etc. Viewers are interested in Movie Theater levels and Frequency response.
RSL Subwoofer 10E, March 29, 2024 release!
RSL's new 10E Subwoofer is only $299, what would your thoughts be on such an inexpensive sub? Also Erin got an ABX comparator for amps and speakers. Stereo for 99 years and now people are still getting sort of used to Atmos mixing. Magic Beans was released!!!
Erin Is Upping His Game With Various Amplifier Tests
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Erin got the KEF Blade 2 Meta on the Klippel, which is no easy task! Would you hear a difference in op amps? Anyone like DTS play-fi? Polk R700 going to be reviewed? Joe's release of magic beans is almost here, tonight in fact if you are listening to this podcast same day as we release the podcast!
Here is a link to Joe's live stream tonight:
https://www.youtube.com/live/H9SEIhuLW_Y?si=3zqtBFSpPl9uBDrO
Magic Beans Release Date Set!
Magic Beans gets a release date! How many channels for a certain size room? Magic Beans and open baffle speakers? Erin hears something he missed before in songs with KEF Blade Meta 2! Side ways height speakers near ceiling!
Wharfedale Super Denton
Wharfedale about to release Super Denton speakers! Kali smaller monitors! Channa visits a mixing clinic and discussion forum! Talking roundy things with impulse responses? Erin's dream build of a speaker from scratch? Lossy or lossless files sizes? No cereal box thumbnails please?!? Channa is looking for acoustic treatment for a studio space.
Joe Will Be Reviewing Some Stuff!
Erin flips some KEF blade meta's off a truck! Daft Punk song gets analyzed. Auro 3-D goes streaming. Joe made some adapters with some nails! Checking the phase at crossover point to sub/s? Room Perfect and the Magic Beans! No import function on Anthem!
Joes Thinks Dirac Does Phase And Time Alignment Really Well!
Joe and Channa talk headphone ugliness. Phase and time aligned speakers leads to awesome imagining! What is impulse response? Channa complains about Dirac Art and his mixes! Exporting Magic Beans to various products. Using Pink Noise vs Sweeps.
Mike Dean, great bass demo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evi12DFoPrc
Erin's Trip To A HiFi Shop In Alabama!
Erin made a trip to a HiFi shop in Alabama! Erin found his perfect pairing in the KEF and McIntosh room, but quickly went on! Erin do we even know you any more? Erin came across a Danish speaker company; Davone. 2 sub outs, with 4 subs on a older Denon? Joe talks about his HTP-1 from Monoprice's Monolith line.
Is A Format War Brewing, Or Is It Just Dust In The Wind?
Format war? What not another one! Well we talk about it a little in this episode. Erin is getting some speakers, 10,000 dollar speakers! Joe is excited for his upcoming HTP-1 review, lots of features he can use! Shillin10 is a 10% coupon off the Spatial Audio Calibration Toolkit, can be used at https://spatialcd.com/
Mix Studio From Joe And Channa?
Back from NAMM, Joe and Channa are talking about studio plans. They also talk about what they saw at NAMM. Erin is asked about bass management in a two channel systems. Visio TV keeps rebooting, what should our YouTube viewer do with the TV? New Roadhouse movie that is coming soon is legit?
What were Joe's and Channa's First "HiFi" Speakers?
When Magic Beans is released do you have to worry about the attenuation from an acoustically transparent screen? Demo material you want demo material? Well check out the spatial audio calibration toolkit discord group demo material, new stuff too! CES coverage still in coming from Channa. Joe and Channa are going to NAMM. Phase inversion because of a port?
Channa Is Back From CES 2024!
SVS has a new lineup of speakers! Also Sonus faber showed some big stuff from them and McIntosh. Channa goes over how impressed he was with the Dolby Flex Connect demos he got. And so much more!
Channa Goes To CES 2024!!!
Channa goes to CES 2024, reports back on the transparent TV from LG. Is Recalibration needed after changing the crossover frequency in your receiver? Magic Beans is coming along, and adding things to the builds almost daily. And more!
Giving Atmos To Movies That Had No Atmos Height Effects!
Channa is gearing up for CES and The NAMM Show coming up. We take to remixing movies lacking Atmos heights! 115" TV, coming to US EVER?!? Sonos speakers or a sound bar for a receiver free setup! Channa makes some of his own Atmos scenes, that he made with audio only! Channa is running through his receivers to try Magic Beans-True Target on almost all major brands. Height speaker placement demos coming.
Some Denon And Marantz Now Dirac Live With Bass Control Capable!
We know Dirac has been and will probably continue to be a premium product, so is $799 for the full package from Dirac to much? Let us know! Also we talk TV's should one go higher end and smaller or should you go mid tier and go larger? Erin talks about his review of the KEF LS60 powered stereo speakers. Arendal speakers not enough bass? But their subs do! True Target by Magic Beans Audio, review coming for several receivers from Channa!
True Target Curves Brought To You By Magic Beans
Magic Beans is really in beta as they say. Hot Dogs on a stick, speakers on a stick. Arendal 1723 speakers! Erin bought a pair of which KEFs? Magic beans is finding the room transfer function, or what the room does to the speaker. Auro3D and Atmos 13.1 for optimized for both. Are front wides used more than a voice of god speaker and center height speaker up front? Magic beans works with a miniDSP? Elac Unifi2.0, or Elac Debut Reference? Channa is going to CES!
Different Mixing Styles For Home Theater!
SACT code for Holiday Sale, EARMUFFS15.
JBL Bar 1000! Auro 3D comes to Shield. Which AVRs allow delays, volume and crossovers after Dirac? Mixing for home, object based mixes vs channel based mixes? Worth an upgrade to 11 channel receiver?
Joe Says To Channa "Start Climbing Those Ladders!!!"
Joe made a video about height speakers and used Channa as a demonstration tool. Sometimes running speaker wire leads you to a position less than ideal. Negative reviews or positive reviews? What does adding more subs do to system response? Is an 18dB cut to much when calibrating? Acoustic treatment, needed?
Joe's Video: https://youtu.be/o_EpJr6yRyU?si=nWb7g5eNh4RQC9ur
Channa's Latest Video: https://youtu.be/ySC-IxRcmFg?si=0rRi_TfYIIPoyi8p
Erin's Latest Video: https://youtu.be/-q4VkErtoAQ?si=EiCMn9BKaCzHewQH
Joe And Channa And A Few Of The After Show Crew Members: Jay, Fred And Scott!
We talk their three systems and what they have in them. We also talk about the sale for Audyssey MultEQ-X. Jay describes what is inside the Monolith Subwoofer and what the amp says!!??!! Erin put out a video about ignorance is bliss and we discuss that video. If reviewers give good reviews for inexpensive stuff and even better reviews for more expensive stuff because it is more pricey, is that doing the viewers justice. Fred talks about Magic Beans and his take on the results.
The Dragon Review Is In!!!
Ealan brings his findings on the Nakamichi Dragon! Sonos and Sony HT-A9 are compared to the Dragon. Spatial Audio Calibration Toolkit and why it is needed. Erin shows a CD collection, then Ealan shows his collection! We talk some best movies that are new. Tripoles, what are they?
Proving Its Worth!!!
Do you collect DVD/Blu-Ray/4K Blu-ray? Do you have a wall of discs? Joe doesn't like physical media! Target had a big sale on Monolith speakers! Arendal in house at Joe's place! Spatial Audio Calibration Toolkit (SACT) comes to the rescue! AV10 wasn't outputting a signal to front wides! The SACT disc showed the Dolby Atmos decoder in the AV10 needed a setting changed/reset. REW goes to 5.3, with lots of updates! Room EQ Wizard is a free program for home theater testing, but do send him some money if you get use out of it!
Fred Goes Big With A Projector And 143" Screen!
Fred, one of our viewers and Daily HiFi After Show Crew Members, goes big with his screen! Would you leave OLED behind for a projector? Or If you could buy an affordable 120" OLED would you give up your projector? Channa gets Joe to go 4K and Atmos on a streaming service! We also discuss desktop powered speakers from Kanto and Vanatoo. Joe reviewed the Kanto ORA here: https://youtu.be/LGOhFLLTvCk?si=tJ8wOm5-JmKl5D7g. SINAD is it overrated to a point? Or is it the only sign of a good amp or preamp? R_volution picks up where the Zappiti left off. SVS PB2000pro vs a RSL 12S!
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DSP For Subwoofers Yay Or Nay?
Erin talks car audio and a unique solution to being off center in a car or truck. DSP for Subwoofers, and more specifically would you want it or not and what about dynamic DSP EQ? Return on investment of audio/video gear? How do you look at price and how does that factor into your buying decisions? In the light of psychical media not at Best Buy any more, is streaming going to get better? Let's hope so!!! Channa is going to get the Dragon from Nakamichi after all!
Dirac ART (Active Room Treatment) Coming To Denon???
Is Dirac ART the next best thing since sliced bread. Or an over promise of a "improvement" for audio? Is Sony Pictures Core streaming service almost as good as discs? Now that Core is on the PS4 and PS5 are you buying either for playing back 80Mb streaming that core offers? 11.1.6 is a thing! Will it be your thing?
Zappiti Is Zaput!
Zappiti is shuttering its doors, some of the main hardware/software features might become unusable. Erin does not like some speakers! Personal bias is ¿bad?, but does not everyone have bias to some effect. Joe reviews the B5 Monolith. REL subwoofer in for review with Erin, JL review done. Spatial Group releases 5.1 and Binaural recordings by Joe and Channa on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@SpatialGroup . Sony takes top 4K and LG takes top 8K at Robert Zohn's Value Electronics TV shoot out.
SAT Go - A More Affordable Spatial Audio Calibration Toolkit
SAT Go via Artist Connection App: https://share.artistconnection.net/content/8JaDsJ Well here we are with another product release! SAT Go, or Spatial Audio Toolkit Go! You will need to click the link above, and you will be taken to a download for the Artist Connection App. There hit the top left back button then the hamburger and finally click on explore. There you should see the Early Bird Special price of $59.99 for SAT Go. There are some test tracks there as well. Cast those from your phone or mobile device to your android box or Apple TV to make sure they are playing ok, but be sure to play the lossy test tracks only as they are the only ones that will play correctly. The app is a little iffy because it's more in the early stages development that's on them, but our product once playing is solid. Leave a comment if you have any questions on how to do all this, we will help as needed. Thanks for watching, and we hope there are some that will enjoy the less expensive toolkit. And a reminder this plays by even a Chrome Cast or Nvidia Shield or Apple TV, so have at it!
We also talk Kaleidescape, bumping old music, up firing speakers vs on ceiling or in ceiling, also a little bit on Magic Beans!
Zone 2 & Zone 3 Grinds Channa Right Up Into A Rant!
Zone 2 or Zone 3, yah or nah for you? Are you a Kaleidescape or Zidoo type of person? Or are you liking the Discs that you have collected and use those exclusively for movie watching? Erin hasn't had the time to tune his car system but its coming. Joe is getting some Arendal speakers! Like 900+ hundred pounds of them. Erin points out buying the "right" speakers can help with not having to buy acoustic panels!
Ike Goes To CEDIA And He Wants $100,000 To Buy A...
If you went to a CEDIA show and some how got $100,000 to spend at the show, what would you buy? Ike knows what he wants, but alas little out of his price range. Joe talks about a 144 page CEDIA paper, RP22 speaker placement guideline! YIKES, 144 pages! Ike also is setting up a pair of SVS dual 8 inch in wall subs! Monolith T5 tower on sale for $89!!! Can you say 7 ear level speakers for less than $700?!?
Magic Beans Audio Announces: True Target
SACT (spatial audio calibration toolkit) was only the beginning, additional things are coming!!! Keep a watch out for those things! Also Magic Beans Audio is announcing True Target!!! Erin tweaked his back again. Erin and Joe talk about Klipsch The Sevens, specifically Erins review! CEDIA is about to ramp up! Anthony Grimani is glad Channa and Joe made the SACT, so he wouldn't have to!!! Channa breaks wind, or at least his PA speaker does!
Channa Has Thoughts About Some Genelec Speakers!
Channa is talked down from the Genelec monitors. Joe has a second event and talks about future events in Southern California. Joe got to hear the JBL 4329P, and is wowed! But to reel it in he compared them to the the Kali LP-6 V2, what was better? Klippel or REW ghetto spinorama?
Erin wants bass in his car! Joe gets through Hilary!
Erin and Joe discuss the Monolith THX certified compact system. Viewers ask Joe if he survived hurricane Hilary. Also Erin talks about his car system upgrade. How many amps did he go with?!? Wow! They also reminisce about MP3 players of old. 32MB player? Mega Byte!
Joe's SoCal Event and Channa Goes Mixing!
Channa went to Sweetwater in Indiana for a Atmos mixing class! Joe holds an event demoing magic beans and other things in SoCal. Tim (our Daily HiFi video editor) also joins in this show at Joe's. Chris Walker from Elac was at Joe's event so was Justin Zazzi from Harman. Channa shops for speakers after Sweetwater mix class! Joe took questions at his event on his app, Magic Beans.
Audio Advice Live Rundown From Channa!
Channa takes us on a tour of Audio Advice Live, 2023. Erin Brings up that he has the Monolith THX Compact satellites.
Just A Little Tease???
Dirac changes long lived crossover point for one of our viewers! Joe got some Pioneer up firing speakers and they have an odd trait. Joe talks about a sub that is musical??? Erin doesn't see "Designed by Erin Speakers" anytime soon. And Channa teases something coming from himself and Joe!!!
Nakamichi Dragon Is For Whom?
Nackamichi Dragon is for the right person! Is that you? Is Channa going to Sweetwater for an Atmos mixing master class? Channa and perhaps Erin are going to audio advice live! Zappiti is gone? And Zidoo is gone? Say what! MBL speakers website that we were talking about: https://www.mbl.de/en/loudspeakers . Definitive Technology DM70 set to small or large? Car subs in home theater or no?
Channa: The ER Episode
Erin sent screen shot to his Mom when Sean Olive called him out on being what a speaker reviewer should be! Congrats to Erin! MWAVE went down this past weekend. Tweeter differences, and how they interact in room. Studio monitors with bluetooth? "Harman Target Curve" vs what magic beans finds to be the target curve! And yes Channa joined us for awhile from the ER this episode! Level matching the proper way?
Brent And Dennis, The Audio Unleashed Guys!
Brent And Dennis were all too kind to come onto Daily HiFi and talk as long as they did! We talked their history and where they worked. Also talked in depth of testing subwoofers. Disturbing trends for reviews came up as well. In room predictions from a Klippel vs real world measurements! Brent talks being threatened for honest reviews on the bad equipment. Also Dennis and Brent share their long list of equipment they have in their respective systems!
Audio Unleashed is a podcast that Brent Butterworth and Dennis Burger do and can be found in the links below!
Brent and Dennis can be found here:
Joe Digs A Very Deep Hole!!!
Billy buys some KEF R3 Meta because of Erin's recent review. Channa learned from a young age that hifi is fun and equipment matters. Joe would love to bridge the gap from measurements matter to the only what you hear matters camps. Erin takes pause with shopping hifi shops, vs hearing what you would hear in your room. And finally Joe digs a hole, a big giant hole!
Brent Butterworth and Dennis Burger will join us July 10th on YouTube.
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Channa Demonstrates An Atmos Mix Live On Youtube!
Channa's link to his upcoming (as of this posting) live stream mixing session:
https://www.youtube.com/live/8gicDPTCiK0?feature=share
Magic Beans and calibrated mics? Is there a rumored second SACT or at least available to more people? Minimum number of height speakers?
Ed Mullen From SVS Drops A Ton Of Knowledge In This Podcast!!!
Ed talks MSO (Multi Sub Optimizer). Also he discusses subwoofer placement. We also go over eq and why nulls can't be corrected period. Phase response and phase rotation. Full range? Ummmm, you really still need a crossover on every speaker. Small speakers are a VAST majority in speakers out there! Double bass, what is it, do you want it? DSP latency of SVS subwoofers? Is a system 7.4.6 or really 7.1.6 with 4 subwoofers? Nick from SVS briefly stops in too! He also does a quick lightening round with questions from our YouTube Viewers towards the end.
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Cory From Paducah Home Theater Joins Us!
Cory fields a few questions from our YouTube Audience! Also Cory goes over a little on how his shop carries everything from beginning of the audio chain like guitars to the end of the audio chain with the likes of Perlisten Speakers. What a shop!
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Apple replaces all Projectors And TVs? For $3,500 per person!
Apple previews Vision Pro "spatial vision". Ed Mullen from SVS is going to be on the show soon. Erin is looking for HDMI speakers that are under $500, if a sound bar can be $140, why not some speakers? DIY subwoofers, are ALWAYS better? Maybe not? SACT Spatial Audio Calibration Toolkit is doing well. Dreamedia is doing a man cave make over for a guy who broke his back, very touching videos for the makeover! Flat anechoic is not flat in room! And you don't want flat in room! Erin buys a FRFR speaker, Full Range, Flat Response? Does something like that exist? Daily HiFi merch is coming!!!
Dreamedia Makeover Videos: https://youtu.be/BKdZQMuFJT4 , https://youtu.be/GInmkDv5fzU
Apartment Subwoofers?
What are ok apartment subwoofers? Join the discord for the spacial audio calibration toolkit, link to that comes with the kit purchase. Shout out to Reverend Slim, for all he does in that discord group. EQ'ng speakers or is it Room Correction? MoFi point source speakers and concentric speakers in general, problem areas. Pro sound speakers disconnect from what we use at home. Do companies care? Spears and Munsil disc? Does one need to recalibrate with new couch or furniture layout?
Channa Wears A Sweater Pool Side! Joe Goes To Sound United!
Kali, Q acoustics, and Bowers & Wilkins. Channa is pool side wearing a sweater. Joe measures the Sound United demo room. Erin wants to measure taller speakers. and just might be able too, SOON! Erin likes speakers that can be shaped to the right curve, and Joe wants something that is more correct out of the box. Joe explains a little more about Magic Beans. Erin shares that he has 10 pair of speakers in for review!!! Whew! Including MoFi Electronics - SourcePoint 10 Bookshelf Speakers. Joe says he has perfect app developer! Erin's measurements for the Behringer's passive $179 PA speaker.
A Great Conversation With Anthony Grimani!
This is a must listen! Anthony talks about the time he made a test DVD disc. Also talks about his time at Dolby! He covers what we can hear vs what we can measure. And also takes the time to talk about the 4 things we can do to make speakers sound better in a room! Anthony goes on to share about why mics are just part of the equation is testing speakers, our ears are the rest of the equation! He also goes on with why off axis is just as important as direct sound from a speaker.
Erin Measures Triad In Room Gold!
Erin sees if the Triad In Room Gold measure up! Using Audyssey and miniDSP together. Setting phase of subwoofers in main listening position. Wisdom Audio called Joe about the SACT (Spatial Audio Calibration Toolkit) and using it for tests. Anthem ARC or Dirac. 3800H as a preamp. Dynaudio and matching Atmos speakers to them? Magic Beans and the SACT, can they work together? Tim (our video editor) confesses that his subwoofers have not been calibrated yet, that he has had those subs for weeks now. Matching subs in a home theater? miniDSP two channel and two subs?
Do manufacturers get it all correct?!!?
Do you all have identical speakers all the way around? Bed layer and heights or just front three? Or not even the front three? Did you know some manufacturers do not get everything right, like basic math? Can Denon and Marantz adjust phase for all 4 subwoofer outs on the newer models? Panning laws in digital audio workstation software, is not standard!!! Erin is thankful to have a Klippel in his dinning room? Joe turns into a life coach!
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Magic Beans Beta Signup!
Magic Beans beta signup now live, link below! Denon/Marantz newer firmware. JVC projectors blacks. Buttkicker Mini install, which amp? BIC PL300 VS used better sub, or reel in those expectations? Michael gets a MadVR setup! Reviewer bias, does everyone acknowledge their bias? Perlisten to Monolith Encore!
Magic Beans Beta Sign: https://joentell.com/mb-beta/