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The Podium and Panel Podcast

The Podium and Panel Podcast

By Dan Cotter and Pat Eckler

Each podcast episode, Pat Eckler and Dan Cotter will cover several oral arguments and decisions in civil matters at the Illinois Appellate Court and Illinois Supreme Court, with the occasional coverage of SCOTUS and other appellate courts.

The purpose of the podcast is to inform of developments that may affect business and are not to be considered legal advice. They do not create a lawyer-client relationship. Information on previous case results do not guarantee a similar future result. The opinions are their own and do not reflect those of the firms for which they work or their clients.
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Episode 110 – Not True

The Podium and Panel PodcastAug 14, 2022

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Episode 200 – Two for two hundred

Episode 200 – Two for two hundred

Follow Dan on LinkedIn at linkedin.com/in/cotterdan Follow Pat on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/donald-patrick-eckler-610290824/   Predictions Sure To Go Wrong: Al-Nahhas: Affirm Perdue Farms: Affirm 7th Circuit case can be found here: https://media.ca7.uscourts.gov/sound/external/gw.23-2723.23-2723_04_09_2024.mp3 3 / 3 IN Supreme court case: https://mycourts.in.gov/arguments/default.aspx?&id=2863&view=detail&yr=&when=&page=1&court=sup&search=&direction=%20ASC&future=False&sort=&judge=&county=&admin=False&pageSize=20
Apr 21, 202432:35
Episode 199 – Are you arguing the Senate is not a separate entity?
Apr 14, 202458:48
Episode 198 – Can an arbitration clause apply to conduct that occurred before it was entered?
Apr 07, 202453:45
Episode 197 – Your client blew up the plant, not saying equal footing?

Episode 197 – Your client blew up the plant, not saying equal footing?

Follow Dan on LinkedIn at linkedin.com/in/cotterdan Follow Pat on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/donald-patrick-eckler-610290824/   Predictions Sure To Go Wrong: Nott: Affirm Cave Quarries: Affirm Fritch: Affirm IL App can be found at: https://www.illinoiscourts.gov/courts/appellate-court/oral-argument-audio/ IN Supreme Court can be found at: https://mycourts.in.gov/arguments/default.aspx?&id=2860&view=detail&yr=&when=&page=1&court=sup&search=&direction=%20ASC&future=False&sort=&judge=&county=&admin=False&pageSize=20
Mar 31, 202401:05:18
Episode 196 – Reasonable measures necessary to avoid the imputation of conflict
Mar 24, 202453:32
Episode 195 – What does it mean to function a trigger

Episode 195 – What does it mean to function a trigger

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Predictions Sure To Go Wrong: Larson: Reverse Corner Post: Reverse Cargill: Affirm

Supreme Court of the United States oral arguments can be found at:

www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_audio/2023
Mar 17, 202401:01:22
Episode 194 – Magnitude of Injury has no relevance here

Episode 194 – Magnitude of Injury has no relevance here

Follow Dan on LinkedIn at linkedin.com/in/cotterdan Follow Pat on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/donald-patrick-eckler-610290824/   Predictions Sure To Go Wrong: E&B: Affirm for contractors, Reverse for Owners Rep Kellenberger: Affirm Schultz: Reverse on jury issue Illinois appellate can be found at: https://www.illinoiscourts.gov/courts/appellate-court/oral-argument-audio/ Indiana appellate court can be found here: https://mycourts.in.gov/arguments/default.aspx?&id=2854&view=detail&yr=&when=&page=1&court=app&search=&direction=%20ASC&future=False&sort=&judge=&county=&admin=False&pageSize=20
Mar 10, 202443:08
Episode 193 – This is Mexican Food instead of American burgers

Episode 193 – This is Mexican Food instead of American burgers

Follow Dan on LinkedIn at linkedin.com/in/cotterdan Follow Pat on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/donald-patrick-eckler-610290824/   Predictions Sure To Go Wrong: Tolbert: Reverse King: Affirm $11,180: Punt Illinois appellate can be found at: https://www.illinoiscourts.gov/courts/appellate-court/oral-argument-audio/ Indiana Supreme Court can be found here: https://mycourts.in.gov/arguments/default.aspx?&id=2846&view=detail&yr=&when=&page=1&court=sup&search=&direction=%20ASC&future=False&sort=&judge=&county=&admin=False&pageSize=20
Mar 03, 202455:08
Episode 192 – Looks like you dropped your pen
Feb 25, 202446:01
Episode 191 – That Would be a weird thing to admit

Episode 191 – That Would be a weird thing to admit

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Predictions Sure To Go Wrong: Jon-Don: Reverse Abbott Laboratories: Affirm Loper Bright: Reverse

Illinois appellate can be found at:

www.illinoiscourts.gov/courts/appellate-court/oral-argument-audio/

7th Circuit argument can be found here:

media.ca7.uscourts.gov/sound/external/ef.23-2525.23-2525_02_05_2024.mp3

Supreme Court cases can be found at:

www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcript/2023
Feb 18, 202401:00:38
Episode 190 – That’s kind of a light touch look

Episode 190 – That’s kind of a light touch look

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Predictions Sure To Go Wrong: Cavins: Reverse trial court Altom: affirm Wagenmaker: reverse

Indiana Supreme Court argument can be found here:

content.ilight.net/supremecourt/01182024_1000am.mp3Illinois appellate can be found at:

www.illinoiscourts.gov/courts/appellate-court/oral-argument-audio/

7th Circuit argument can be found here:

media.ca7.uscourts.gov/sound/external/ef.23-1443.23-1443_01_30_2024.mp3
Feb 11, 202449:39
Episode 189 - Who qualifies as a third-party for publication?
Feb 04, 202437:01
Episode 188 – A Melody of Medical

Episode 188 – A Melody of Medical

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Predictions Sure To Go Wrong: Wilcox: affirm Haines: affirm Olson: reverse

Illinois appellate can be found at:

www.illinoiscourts.gov/courts/appellate-court/oral-argument-audio/
Jan 28, 202445:36
Episode 187 – Fairly Unusual Feature Of this case

Episode 187 – Fairly Unusual Feature Of this case

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Predictions Sure To Go Wrong: Downs: Punt LaForte: Punt Axis: Punt

Seventh Circuit case can be found at:https://media.ca7.uscourts.gov/sound/external/dab.23-1698.23-1698_01_09_2024.mp3

Illinois appellate can be found at:

www.illinoiscourts.gov/courts/appellate-court/oral-argument-audio/
Jan 21, 202451:46
Episode 186 –  Standing while falling
Jan 16, 202449:16
Episode 185 - Special Episode: Third-Party Litigation Finance w/Brian Fitzpatrick and William Marra

Episode 185 - Special Episode: Third-Party Litigation Finance w/Brian Fitzpatrick and William Marra

A discussion with Brian and William regarding their article Agency Costs in Third-Party Finance Reconsidered https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm%3Fabstract_id%3D4649666&ved=2ahUKEwiYn9n5ptiDAxUukYkEHQLSBawQFnoECBEQAQ&usg=AOvVaw2ldsuF9_rvLrBoPoYWuQBR
Jan 12, 202454:60
Episode 184 – Machines cannot fully replace key actors in court

Episode 184 – Machines cannot fully replace key actors in court

Follow Dan on LinkedIn at linkedin.com/in/cotterdan Follow Pat on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/donald-patrick-eckler-610290824/   Illinois appellate cases can be found at: https://www.illinoiscourts.gov/courts/appellate-court/oral-argument-audio/ Predictions Sure To Go Wrong: Cosme: affirm Moore: reverse but narrow Purdue: affirm The SCOTUS cases can be found at: https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_audio/2023 Indiana SCT case can be found at: https://mycourts.in.gov/arguments/default.aspx?&id=2816&view=detail&yr=&when=&page=1&court=sup&search=&direction=%20ASC&future=False&sort=&judge=&county=&admin=False&pageSize=20
Jan 07, 202401:00:39
Episode 183 – Sorry, my head is getting cut off

Episode 183 – Sorry, my head is getting cut off

Follow Dan on LinkedIn at linkedin.com/in/cotterdan Follow Pat on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/donald-patrick-eckler-610290824/   Predictions Sure To Go Wrong: Atain: affirm Great American: affirm Safeco: affirm Illinois appellate cases can be found at: https://www.illinoiscourts.gov/courts/appellate-court/oral-argument-audio/ The 7th Circuit cases can be found at: https://media.ca7.uscourts.gov/sound/external/kra.23-1854.23-1854_12_08_2023.mp3 Indiana SCT case can be found at: https://mycourts.in.gov/arguments/default.aspx?&id=2814&view=detail&yr=&when=&page=1&court=sup&search=&direction=%20ASC&future=False&sort=&judge=&county=&admin=False&pageSize=20
Dec 31, 202346:32
Episode 182 – It’s Not my line, it’s the legislature’s line

Episode 182 – It’s Not my line, it’s the legislature’s line

Follow Dan on LinkedIn at linkedin.com/in/cotterdan Follow Pat on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/donald-patrick-eckler-610290824/   Predictions Sure To Go Wrong: Solorzano: Reverse Gilbert: Affirm Gierek: No bodily injury Illinois appellate cases can be found at: https://www.illinoiscourts.gov/courts/appellate-court/oral-argument-audio/ Indiana SCT case can be found at: https://mycourts.in.gov/arguments/default.aspx?&id=2817&view=detail&yr=&when=&page=1&court=sup&search=&direction=%20ASC&future=False&sort=&judge=&county=&admin=False&pageSize=20
Dec 24, 202343:32
Episode 181 – Suppose that the parent buys a phone for a child
Dec 17, 202346:49
Episode 180 – Unrelated parties are considered to have filed separate actions
Dec 10, 202351:38
Episode 179 –  Nobody has had the Chutzpah
Dec 03, 202301:02:16
Episode 178 – Asking too much from a widower

Episode 178 – Asking too much from a widower

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Predictions Sure To Go Wrong: Illinois Road: Reverse Taylor: affirm Mitchell: affirm

Illinois appellate cases can be found at:

www.illinoiscourts.gov/courts/appellate-court/oral-argument-audio/
Nov 27, 202344:20
Episode 177 –  Hen’s tooth rare

Episode 177 –  Hen’s tooth rare

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Predictions Sure To Go Wrong: Wesco: Affirm Rahimi: Reverse Wilson: Affirm

Illinois appellate cases can be found at:

www.illinoiscourts.gov/courts/appellate-court/oral-argument-audio/

Rahimi can be found at:

supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/audio/2023/22-915

The 9th Circuit case can be found here:

www.ca9.uscourts.gov/media/audio/?20231113/22-16584/
Nov 19, 202357:22
Episode 176 - We admonish plaintiff

Episode 176 - We admonish plaintiff

Follow Dan on LinkedIn at linkedin.com/in/cotterdan Follow Pat on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/donald-patrick-eckler-610290824/   Predictions Sure To Go Wrong: Mathis: reverse Cornice & Rose: punt Overland: affirm Illinois appellate cases can be found at: https://www.illinoiscourts.gov/courts/appellate-court/oral-argument-audio/7th can be found at: media.ca7.uscourts.gov/sound/external/kra.22-2683.22-2683_10_26_2023.mp3
Nov 12, 202352:03
Episode 175 –  We have a profusion of possible tests to choose among
Nov 05, 202358:41
Episode 174 – You Can’t have it both ways
Oct 29, 202343:42
Episode 173 – I am not the trier of fact

Episode 173 – I am not the trier of fact

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Predictions Sure To Go Wrong: Margules: Affirm Arroyo: Reverse Arteaga: Punt

Illinois appellate can be found at:

www.illinoiscourts.gov/courts/appellate-court/oral-argument-audio/
Oct 22, 202301:06:17
Episode 172 – The word except echoes with thunderous impact

Episode 172 – The word except echoes with thunderous impact

Follow Dan on LinkedIn at linkedin.com/in/cotterdan Follow Pat on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/donald-patrick-eckler-610290824/   Predictions Sure To Go Wrong: Edwards: Affirm Burciaga: Reverse Murphy: Reverse Illinois appellate can be found at: https://www.illinoiscourts.gov/courts/appellate-court/oral-argument-audio/ Indiana Supreme Court can be found at: https://mycourts.in.gov/arguments/default.aspx?&id=2794&view=detail&yr=&when=&page=1&court=sup&search=&direction=%20ASC&future=False&sort=&judge=&county=&admin=False&pageSize=20
Oct 15, 202349:22
Episode 171 – The Mootness Question

Episode 171 – The Mootness Question

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Predictions Sure To Go Wrong: Horizon West: Affirm Acheson Hotels: DIG or dismissed as moot

7th Circuit can be found at:

media.ca7.uscourts.gov/sound/external/dab.22-3191.22-3191_10_03_2023.mp3

SCOTUS can be found at:

22-429 (supremecourt.gov)
Oct 08, 202350:36
Episode 170 – My Name is often mispronounced

Episode 170 – My Name is often mispronounced

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Predictions Sure To Go Wrong: Acuity: Reverse Direct Auto: Affirm M.U.: Affirm

Illinois suprem court arguments can be found at:

Supreme Court Oral Argument Audio and Video (illinoiscourts.gov)
Oct 01, 202351:20
Episode 169 – The (Illinois) Supremes of a distinction without a difference

Episode 169 – The (Illinois) Supremes of a distinction without a difference

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Predictions Sure To Go Wrong: Alave: Reverse Mohammad: Reverse Doe: Reverse

Illinois supreme court arguments can be found at:

Supreme Court Oral Argument Audio and Video (illinoiscourts.gov)
Sep 24, 202353:17
Episode 168 – I wish that I had Jussie’s Gall

Episode 168 – I wish that I had Jussie’s Gall

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Predictions Sure To Go Wrong: Smollett: in Brady reversed Andrade: affirm Naperville: affirm

Illinois appellate can be found at:

www.illinoiscourts.gov/courts/appellate-court/oral-argument-audio/
Sep 17, 202350:11
Episode 167 – Everyone in there saw me shoot him

Episode 167 – Everyone in there saw me shoot him

Follow Dan on LinkedIn at linkedin.com/in/cotterdan Follow Pat on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/donald-patrick-eckler-610290824/   Predictions Sure To Go Wrong: Conrads: reverse Alcozar: affirm Illinois appellate can be found at: https://www.illinoiscourts.gov/courts/appellate-court/oral-argument-audio/ Indiana appellate can be found here: https://mycourts.in.gov/arguments/default.aspx?&id=2750&view=detail&yr=&when=&page=1&court=app&search=&direction=%20ASC&future=False&sort=&judge=&county=&admin=False&pageSize=20
Sep 10, 202341:59
Episode 166 – We are one and done
Sep 03, 202331:16
Episode 165 – Scrape the barrel
Aug 27, 202345:26
Episode 164 – PIPA pig
Aug 20, 202353:03
Episode 163 - A solo combo episode
Aug 13, 202349:07
Episode 162 –

Should you cite A dissenting opinion?
Aug 06, 202342:10
Episode 161 - Flying Solo Again

Episode 161 - Flying Solo Again

Follow Dan on LinkedIn at linkedin.com/in/cotterdan Follow Pat on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/donald-patrick-eckler-610290824/ Predictions Sure To Go Wrong: Warex: Affirm Joufeh: Affirm Ingold: Affirm Illinois appellate can be found at: https://www.illinoiscourts.gov/courts/appellate-court/oral-argument-audio/ Indiana appellate case can be found here: https://mycourts.in.gov/arguments/default.aspx?&id=2763&view=detail&yr=&when=&page=1&court=app&search=&direction=%20ASC&future=False&sort=&judge=&county=&admin=False&pageSize=20
Jul 30, 202320:11
Episode 160 –
The Legal Magellan on the road for the 2nd of 5 straight weekends.

Episode 160 – The Legal Magellan on the road for the 2nd of 5 straight weekends.

Follow Dan on LinkedIn at linkedin.com/in/cotterdan Follow Pat on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/donald-patrick-eckler-610290824/ Predictions Sure To Go Wrong: Technicolor: Affirm Mulligan: Affirm Illinois appellate can be found at: https://www.illinoiscourts.gov/courts/appellate-court/oral-argument-audio/ Indiana appellate case can be found here: https://mycourts.in.gov/arguments/default.aspx?&id=2776&view=detail&yr=&when=&page=1&court=app&search=&direction=%20ASC&future=False&sort=&judge=&county=&admin=False&pageSize=20
Jul 23, 202338:14
Episode 159 –
This court is disheartened that we are compelled to reject

Episode 159 – This court is disheartened that we are compelled to reject

Follow Dan on LinkedIn at linkedin.com/in/cotterdan Follow Pat on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/donald-patrick-eckler-610290824/   Predictions Sure To Go Wrong: KDW: Affirm State Farm: Affirm: Wedemeyer: Affirm Illinois appellate can be found at: https://www.illinoiscourts.gov/courts/appellate-court/oral-argument-audio/ Indiana appellate case can be found here: https://mycourts.in.gov/arguments/default.aspx?&id=2759&view=detail&yr=&when=&page=1&court=app&search=&direction=%20ASC&future=False&sort=&judge=&county=&admin=False&pageSize=20
Jul 16, 202341:36
Episode 158 -
A bit of bevis and (gun) butthead
Jul 09, 202352:53
Episode 157 – When did your client have this epiphany?
Jul 02, 202353:37
Episode 156 - The chickens come home to roost

Episode 156 - The chickens come home to roost

Dan and Pat discuss the result in Mallory v. Norfolk Southern with counsel for the victorious petitioner, Ashley Keller.
Jun 30, 202331:52
Episode 155 – Mockery of a form of trial
Jun 25, 202357:00
Episode 154 – An embarrassment of riches
Jun 18, 202343:29
Episode 153 – Hopelessly conflicted
Jun 11, 202351:20
Episode 152 – Not this mumbo jumbo

Episode 152 – Not this mumbo jumbo

Follow Dan on LinkedIn at linkedin.com/in/cotterdan Follow Pat on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/donald-patrick-eckler-610290824/ Predictions Sure To Go Wrong: Krieter: Punt Nahlawi: Affirm with modification C.R. Bard: affirm Illinois appellate can be found at: https://www.illinoiscourts.gov/courts/appellate-court/oral-argument-audio/ The 7th Circuit can be found at: http://media.ca7.uscourts.gov/sound/external/dab.22-2610.22-2610_06_01_2023.mp3 Indiana appellate here: https://mycourts.in.gov/arguments/default.aspx?&id=2760&view=detail&yr=&when=&page=1&court=app&search=&direction=%20ASC&future=False&sort=&judge=&county=&admin=False&pageSize=20Illinios appellate here: https://www.illinoiscourts.gov/courts/appellate-court/oral-argument-audio/
Jun 04, 202342:08
Episode 151 – You cannot have your cheddar biscuits and eat them too

Episode 151 – You cannot have your cheddar biscuits and eat them too

Follow Dan on LinkedIn at linkedin.com/in/cotterdan Follow Pat on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/donald-patrick-eckler-610290824/ Predictions Sure To Go Wrong: Red Lobster: Affirm Andren: Affirm Noeldner: Affirm Illinois appellate can be found at: https://www.illinoiscourts.gov/courts/appellate-court/oral-argument-audio/ The 7th Circuit can be found at: media.ca7.uscourts.gov/sound/external/mm.22-2889.22-2889_05_23_2023.mp3   Indiana appellate here: https://mycourts.in.gov/arguments/default.aspx?&id=2775&view=detail&yr=&when=&page=1&court=app&search=&direction=%20ASC&future=False&sort=&judge=&county=&admin=False&pageSize=20
May 28, 202348:34