
The Podium and Panel Podcast
By Dan Cotter and Pat Eckler
Each podcast episode, Pat Eckler and Dan Cotter will cover several oral arguments and decisions in civil matters at the Illinois Appellate Court and Illinois Supreme Court, with the occasional coverage of SCOTUS and other appellate courts.
The purpose of the podcast is to inform of developments that may affect business and are not to be considered legal advice. They do not create a lawyer-client relationship. Information on previous case results do not guarantee a similar future result. The opinions are their own and do not reflect those of the firms for which they work or their clients.
The purpose of the podcast is to inform of developments that may affect business and are not to be considered legal advice. They do not create a lawyer-client relationship. Information on previous case results do not guarantee a similar future result. The opinions are their own and do not reflect those of the firms for which they work or their clients.

Episode 111 - Any attempt to amend the complaint would be futile
The Podium and Panel Podcast • By Dan Cotter and Pat Eckler • Aug 21, 2022
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Episode 134 – The Justices May Just Throw up their hands
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Predictions Sure To Go Wrong: Hoosier Contractors: reverse Karuparthy: reverse Ory: affirm Illinois appellate arguments can be found at:
https://www.illinoiscourts.gov/courts/appellate-court/oral-argument-audio/
Indiana Supreme Court can be found here:
https://mycourts.in.gov/arguments/default.aspx?&id=2714&view=detail&yr=&when=&page=1&court=SUP&search=&direction=%20ASC&future=True&sort=&judge=&county=&admin=False&pageSize=20
43:28
February 05, 2023

Episode 133 – In pari delicto par excellence?
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Predictions Sure To Go Wrong: Thom: affirm Rubendall: affirm Kokenis: affirm
Illinois appellate arguments can be found at:
https://www.illinoiscourts.gov/courts/appellate-court/oral-argument-audio/
Indiana Appellate case can be found here:
https://mycourts.in.gov/arguments/default.aspx?&id=2713&view=detail&yr=&when=&page=1&court=app&search=&direction=%20ASC&future=False&sort=&judge=&county=&admin=False&pageSize=20
7th Circuit case can be found here:
http://media.ca7.uscourts.gov/sound/external/kra.22-2154.22-2154_01_25_2023.mp3
47:31
January 29, 2023

Episode 132 - The Theme Show 2
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Predictions Sure To Go Wrong: IRT II: Affirm Remprex: Affirm Walton: Affirm
Illinois appellate arguments can be found at: 5 / 5 https://www.illinoiscourts.gov/courts/appellate-court/oral-argument-audio/
Indiana Repertory can be found here: https://mycourts.in.gov/arguments/default.aspx?&id=2709&view=detail&yr=&when=&page=1&court=app&search=&direction=%20ASC&future=False&sort=&judge=&county=&admin=False&pageSize=20 Illinois supreme court can be found at: Supreme Court Oral Argument Audio and Video (illinoiscourts.gov).
48:00
January 22, 2023

Episode 131 – The Jurisdictional Hawks at 219 South Dearborn
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Predictions Sure To Go Wrong: Sykes: affirmed Gibbs: affirmed Hill: affirmed
Illinois appellate arguments can be found at:
https://www.illinoiscourts.gov/courts/appellate-court/oral-argument-audio/
7th circuit can be found at:
http://media.ca7.uscourts.gov/oralArguments/oar.jsp
49:26
January 15, 2023

Episode 130 – That Gets the Statute Backwards
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Predictions Sure To Go Wrong: Miller: affirm Talevski: affirm Doe: affirm
The Seventh Circuit arguments are here:
http://media.ca7.uscourts.gov/oralArguments/oar.jsp
The oral argument for SCOTUS case can be found at:
Argument Audio (supremecourt.gov)
49:15
January 09, 2023

Episode 129 – A Supreme Happy New Year
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Predictions Sure To Go Wrong: SFA: Reverse Moore: Narrow ruling 303 Creative: Reverse
The oral arguments can be found at: Argument Audio (supremecourt.gov) Transcripts can be found at: https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcript/2022
50:39
January 01, 2023

Episode 128 – We cannot say as a matter of law that the plaintiff’s injury was unforeseeable
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Predictions Sure To Go Wrong: Power Cartage: Affirm AOJ Operations: Affirm Patel: Affirmed in part, reversed in part
The oral arguments for the IL appellate court can be found here: https://www.illinoiscourts.gov/courts/appellate-court/oral-argument-audio/
The Patel case can be found here:
https://mycourts.in.gov/arguments/default.aspx?&id=2708&view=detail&yr=&when=&page=1&court=sup&search=&direction=%20ASC&future=False&sort=&judge=&county=&admin=False&pageSize=20
43:26
December 18, 2022

Episode 127 – I think this is the biggest judgment I’ve ever been involved in
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Predictions Sure To Go Wrong: Bilbrey: reverse Ellis: affirm Q-West: reverse
The oral arguments for the IL appellate court can be found here: https://www.illinoiscourts.gov/courts/appellate-court/oral-argument-audio/
47:21
December 11, 2022

Episode 126 – Doesn't International Shoe sort of relegate that body of cases to the dust bin of history?
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Predictions Sure To Go Wrong: Givens: Reverse Mallory: Punt FCCI: Affirm
The oral argument for the IL Supreme Court case can be found here:
https://www.illinoiscourts.gov/courts/supreme-court/oral-argument-audio-and-video/#audioModal The IN appellate court case can be found here:
https://mycourts.in.gov/arguments/default.aspx?&id=2710&view=detail&yr=&when=&page=1&court=app&search=&direction=%20ASC&future=False&sort=&judge=&county=&admin=False&pageSize=20
The Supreme Court case can be found here:
https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/audio/2022/21-1168
55:27
December 04, 2022

Episode 125 – A justice system cannot operate where the rules… are not worthy of trust,
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Predictions Sure To Go Wrong: Midwest Funding: Reverse Burciaga: Punt Duniver:
Reverse The oral argument for the IL Supreme Court cases can be found here:
https://www.illinoiscourts.gov/courts/supreme-court/oral-argument-audio-and-video/
The IN appellate court case can be found here:
https://mycourts.in.gov/arguments/default.aspx?&id=2710&view=detail&yr=&when=&page=1&court=app&search=&direction=%20ASC&future=False&sort=&judge=&county=&admin=False&pageSize=20
41:52
November 27, 2022

Episode 124 – Wait a second - that's a conflict of interest!
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Predictions Sure To Go Wrong: Slanger: Reverse Giles: Reverse Davidson: Reverse
The oral argument for the IL cases can be found here can be found here:
https://www.illinoiscourts.gov/courts/appellate-court/oral-argument-audio/#audioModal
The IN Supreme court case can be found here:
https://mycourts.in.gov/arguments/default.aspx?&id=2693&view=detail&yr=&when=&page=1&court=sup&search=&direction=%20ASC&future=False&sort=&judge=&county=&admin=False&pageSize=20
41:41
November 20, 2022

Episode 123 – Was Charles Barkley on the street of a downstate town in 2017?
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Predictions Sure To Go Wrong: Howard: Affirm Miller: Affirm Butler Brothers: Reverse
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https://www.illinoiscourts.gov/courts/appellate-court/oral-argument-audio/#audioModal
42:43
November 13, 2022

Episode 122 – Just when you thought they had litigated all the issues in BIPA
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Predictions Sure To Go Wrong: Schnaare: Affirm Mora: Dan: Reverse Pat" Affirm Stant: Affirm
The oral argument for the IL cases can be found here can be found here:
https://www.illinoiscourts.gov/courts/appellate-court/oral-argument-audio/#audioModal
7th Circuit case can be found here:
http://media.ca7.uscourts.gov/sound/external/lp.22-1336.22-1336_11_01_2022.mp3
39:34
November 06, 2022

Episode 121 – Jury may or may not know lot of things.
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Predictions Sure To Go Wrong: Solomon: Facility: reverse Doctor No. 1: reverse Indiana Doctor: affirm Hakim: affirm Less: affirm
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https://www.illinoiscourts.gov/courts/appellate-court/oral-argument-audio/#audioModal
7th Circuit case can be found here:
http://media.ca7.uscourts.gov/sound/external/gw.22-1861.22-1861_10_25_2022.mp3
35:37
October 30, 2022

Episode 120 – Would You Like a Frye with That?
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The oral argument for the IL cases can be found here can be found here:
https://www.illinoiscourts.gov/courts/appellate-court/oral-argument-audio/#audioModal
35:10
October 24, 2022

Episode 119 – Judicial notice that cats have nine lives
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Predictions Sure To Go Wrong: McCabe: affirm Village of Orion: reverse U.S. Automatic Sprinkler Corporation:
Punt The oral argument for the IL cases can be found here can be found here:
https://www.illinoiscourts.gov/courts/appellate-court/oral-argument-audio/#audioModal
The oral argument in the IN SCt case is here:
https://mycourts.in.gov/arguments/default.aspx?&id=2684&view=detail&yr=&when=&page=1&court=SUP&search=&direction=%20ASC&future=True&sort=&judge=&county=&admin=False&pageSize=20
46:00
October 16, 2022

Episode 118 – Who loves multi-factor legal standards?
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Predictions Sure To Go Wrong: Lee: affirm Sun-Times: reverse Walworth:
Affirm The oral argument for Lee can be found here:
https://www.illinoiscourts.gov/courts/appellate-court/oral-argument-audio/#audioModal
For IL SCT: https://www.illinoiscourts.gov/courts/supreme-court/oral-argument-audio-and-video/
47:18
October 09, 2022

Episode 117 – In relation to or concerning
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Predictions Sure To Go Wrong: Devane: Punt Tims: Reverse in favor of plaintiff Sheckler: Reverse
The oral argument for Devane s can be found here:
https://www.illinoiscourts.gov/courts/appellate-court/oral-argument-audio/#audioModal
For IL SCT: https://www.illinoiscourts.gov/courts/supreme-court/oral-argument-audio-and-video/
42:52
October 03, 2022

Episode 116 - Lost profits to an extent will always be uncertain
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Predictions Sure To Go Wrong: Swanigan: Affirm Ivey: Affirm Pura Vida: Affirm
The oral arguments for Illinois cases can be found here: https://www.illinoiscourts.gov/courts/appellate-court/oral-argument-audio/#audioModal
For IL SCT: https://www.illinoiscourts.gov/courts/supreme-court/oral-argument-audio-and-video/
44:26
September 25, 2022

Episode 115 – The Magellan of lawyers
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Predictions Sure To Go Wrong: Payne: reverse Estate of Logan: reverse Creative Supply: affirm
The oral arguments for Illinois cases can be found here:
https://www.illinoiscourts.gov/courts/appellate-court/oral-argument-audio/#audioModal
For 7th circuit:
http://media.ca7.uscourts.gov/sound/external/mn.21-2922.21-2922_09_12_2022.mp3
40:01
September 18, 2022

Episode 114 - Like peanut butter and jelly
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Predictions Sure To Go Wrong: Cretell: Reverse McNabola: Affirm Nutter: Reverse
The oral arguments for Illinois cases can be found here:
https://www.illinoiscourts.gov/courts/appellate-court/oral-argument-audio/#audioModal
32:06
September 11, 2022

Episode 113 - That's unwise for you to assume
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Predictions Sure To Go Wrong: MIC General Insurance Co.: Husband: Affirm Wife: Reverse Price: Affirm Rave: Punt
The oral arguments for Illinois cases can be found here:
https://www.illinoiscourts.gov/courts/appellate-court/oral-argument-audio/#audioModal
40:45
September 04, 2022

Episode 112 - You are going to need a scorecard for this one
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Predictions Sure To Go Wrong: Burke: Affirm Wilson: Reverse Wells Fargo: Affirm
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39:56
August 28, 2022

Episode 111 - Any attempt to amend the complaint would be futile
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39:13
August 21, 2022

Episode 110 – Not True
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Predictions Sure To Go Wrong: Ameren: reverse Hollister: reverse
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https://www.illinoiscourts.gov/courts/appellate-court/oral-argument-audio/#audioModal
33:41
August 14, 2022

Episode 109 - No crack, just cannabis
Special guest Adam Sheppard. The post is here: https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:6959950266234286080/
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26:16
August 09, 2022

Episode 108 - The No Argument Episode
No arguments this week.
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24:50
August 07, 2022

Episode 107 – Lightly Resourced
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Predictions Sure To Go Wrong: Eckerty: Affirm Doe: Afirm
The oral arguments for Illinois cases can be found here:
https://www.illinoiscourts.gov/courts/appellate-court/oral-argument-audio/#audioModal
Doe can be found here:
media.ca7.uscourts.gov/sound/external/mn.22-1864.22-1864_07_27_2022.mp3
30:47
July 31, 2022

Episode 106 - GVR - welcome to the SCOTUS jungle
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Predictions Sure To Go Wrong: Harleysville: Affirm Peet: Reverse Urso: Reverse
The oral arguments for Illinois cases can be found here:
https://www.illinoiscourts.gov/courts/appellate-court/oral-argument-audio/#audioModal
49:13
July 24, 2022

Episode 105 - Why are we here?
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Predictions Sure To Go Wrong: Allen: Affirm Norwood: Reverse Copper Bend: Affirm Rotan: Affirm
The oral arguments for Illinois cases can be found here:
https://www.illinoiscourts.gov/courts/appellate-court/oral-argument-audio/#audioModal
43:34
July 17, 2022

Episode 104 - Do you agree the only standard of review that applies is abuse of discretion?
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Predictions Sure To Go Wrong: Williams: Affirm
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https://www.illinoiscourts.gov/courts/appellate-court/oral-argument-audio/#audioModal
25:42
July 10, 2022

Episode 103 - Another case of deja vu
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Predictions Sure To Go Wrong: Huston: Reverse Payne-Elliott: Reverse Capital Construction: Affirm
The oral arguments for Illinois cases can be found here:
https://www.illinoiscourts.gov/courts/appellate-court/oral-argument-audio/#audioModal
Payne-Elliott Indiana oral argument can be found here:
https://mycourts.in.gov/arguments/default.aspx?&id=2656&view=detail&yr=&when=&page=1&court=SUP&search=&direction=%20ASC&future=True&sort=&judge=&county=&admin=False&pageSize=20
58:53
July 03, 2022

Episode 102 - The Layers of the Onion
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Predictions Sure To Go Wrong: Holt:
Affirm The oral argument for Illinois case, Holt, is here:
https://www.illinoiscourts.gov/courts/appellate-court/oral-argument-audio/#audioModal
50:60
June 26, 2022

Episode 101 - They are now "regular customers" before the Indiana Court of Appeals
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Predictions Sure To Go Wrong: Herron: the court will require in camera review Gookins:
Affirm The oral argument for Illinois cases is here:
https://www.illinoiscourts.gov/courts/appellate-court/oral-argument-audio/#audioModal
Oral argument for Gookins can be found here:
https://mycourts.in.gov/arguments/default.aspx?&id=2658&view=detail&yr=&when=&page=1&court=app&search=&direction=%20ASC&future=False&sort=&judge=&county=&admin=False&pageSize=20
48:51
June 19, 2022

Episode 100- If ever a case warranted fee shifting, it is this.
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Predictions Sure To Wrong: Muhammad: affirm Tsai: won't find equitable basis for fees Millerking: affirm
The oral arguments for Illinois cases are here:
https://www.illinoiscourts.gov/courts/appellate-court/oral-argument-audio/#audioModal
46:27
June 12, 2022

Episode 99 - What you just stated raises the principal question in my mind
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Predictions Sure To Go Wrong: McGoey: affirm Bones: reverse Holloway:
Punt The oral arguments for Illinois cases are here:
https://www.illinoiscourts.gov/courts/appellate-court/oral-argument-audio/#audioModal
The oral argument in Hollway v. City of Milwaukee is here:
http://media.ca7.uscourts.gov/sound/external/gw.21-3007.21-3007_06_01_2022.mp3
44:22
June 05, 2022

Episode 98- Coverage of coverage cases
Show notes:
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Predictions Sure To Go Wrong: Owners: Reversed Morison: Affirm TRRS: Affirm
Oral arguments can be found here:
https://www.illinoiscourts.gov/courts/appellate-court/oral-argument-audio/#audioModal
45:32
May 29, 2022

Episode 97 - We are generalists
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Predictions Sure To Go Wrong: Palmer: Affirm BFD: affirm Cothron: Pat: reverse Dan: affirm
Oral argument for Palmer is here:
https://www.illinoiscourts.gov/courts/appellate-court/oral-argument-audio/#audioModal
BFD is here:
https://mycourts.in.gov/arguments/default.aspx?&id=2634&view=detail&yr=&when=&page=1&court=app&search=&direction=%20ASC&future=False&sort=&judge=&county=&admin=False&pageSize=20
Cothron
is here:
https://www.illinoiscourts.gov/courts/supreme-court/oral-argument-audio-and-video/#audioModal
46:59
May 22, 2022

Episode 96 - There are two introductory legal tenants at issue
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Predictions Sure To Go Wrong: Quiroz: Reverse Tschlis: Reverse Bain: Affirm
Oral argument for Quiroz is here:
https://www.illinoiscourts.gov/courts/supreme-court/oral-argument-audio-and-video/#audioModal
Oral arguments in the Illinois appellate cases:
https://www.illinoiscourts.gov/courts/appellate-court/oral-argument-audio/#audioModal
43:12
May 17, 2022

Episode 95 - He was admiring the tractors
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Predictions Sure To Go Wrong: Firebirds: affirm Kopin: affirm Mazrim: punt
Oral arguments in the Illinois appellate cases:
https://www.illinoiscourts.gov/courts/appellate-court/oral-argument-audio/#audioModal
42:15
May 10, 2022

Episode 94 - My Question is a yes or no answer
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Predictions Sure To Go Wrong: Highland: Reverse Lukanty: Reverse Harvey: Affirm Springs Window: Affirm
Oral arguments in the Illinois appellate cases:
https://www.illinoiscourts.gov/courts/appellate-court/oral-argument-audio/#audioModal
Oral arguments in 7th circuit:
media.ca7.uscourts.gov/sound/external/mm.21-2665.21-2665_04_27_2022.mp3
51:51
May 01, 2022

Episode 93 - People v. Brown
On Episode 93, Dan Cotter and Donald Patrick Eckler discuss the recent oral argument in People v. Brown with David G. Sigale, a case involving Illinois' FOID requirement.
The oral argument is here:
https://www.illinoiscourts.gov/courts/supreme-court/oral-argument-audio-and-video/#audioModal
53:47
April 30, 2022

Episode 92 - Illinois Road v. County of Cook
On Episode 92, DAN COTTER and Donald Patrick Eckler discuss the decision in Illinois Road and Transportation Builders Ass'n v. County of Cook with counsel for the successful petitioners, John Fitzgerald.
The decision is here:
https://www.illinoiscourts.gov/resources/8629358d-2024-4876-870f-7b4611d6240f/file
29:52
April 30, 2022

Episode 91 - We are asking this court to thread a very fine needle into a strong headwind
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Predictions Sure To Go Wrong: Windy City: Affirm Blaha: Dan: Affirm Pat: Reverse
Oral arguments in Blaha: https://www.illinoiscourts.gov/courts/appellate-court/oral-argument-audio/#audioModal
Oral arguments in Windy City: http://media.ca7.uscourts.gov/sound/external/gw.21-3296.21-3296_04_20_2022.mp3
50:17
April 24, 2022

Episode 90- We’ll get back to you as soon as we find a way to agree
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Predictions Sure To Go Wrong: Krishnamoorthi: affirm Nationwide: Dan: reverse Pat: affirm Newkirk:
Affirm Oral arguments can be found at:
https://www.illinoiscourts.gov/courts/appellate-court/oral-argument-audio/#audioModal
The Wooden petitition is here:
https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/20/20-5279/149536/20200810135703871_20200810-135507-95751217-00000602.pdf
28 U.S.C. § 1654 provides: "In all courts of the United States the parties may plead and conduct their own cases personally or by counsel as, by the rules of such courts, respectively, are permitted to manage and conduct causes therein."
SCOTUS rule 28.8 requires attornyes of bar only. https://www.law.cornell.edu/rules/supct/rule_28
47:57
April 17, 2022

Episode 89- A court will not strain to find an ambiguity where none exists
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Predictions Sure To Go Wrong: Holcomb: Affirm Parkview: Affirm on Parkview does not get fees, Reverse on Am Fam only has to pay $50,000 NBA: Affirm
Oral argument in the SCT case is here:
https://mycourts.in.gov/arguments/default.aspx?&id=2626&view=detail&yr=&when=&page=1&court=SUP&search=&direction=%20ASC&future=True&sort=&judge=&county=&admin=False&pageSize=20
Oral argument in Parkview is here:
https://mycourts.in.gov/arguments/default.aspx?&id=2629&view=detail&yr=&when=&page=1&court=app&search=&direction=%20ASC&future=False&sort=&judge=&county=&admin=False&pageSize=20
Oral argument in NBA case is here:
http://media.ca7.uscourts.gov/sound/external/lp.21-2909.21-2909_04_07_2022.mp3
49:24
April 10, 2022

Episode 88 - We are ventriloquist dummies
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Predictions Sure To Go Wrong: North American: affirm Viking: reverse
Oral argument in North American is here:
http://media.ca7.uscourts.gov/sound/external/gw.21-1813.21-1813_03_30_2022.mp3
Oral argument in Viking is here:
https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/audio/2021/20-1573
42:06
April 03, 2022

Episode 87 - That is what makes this a difficult case
Dan and Pat are joined by Jonathan Amarilio discussing LeDure v. Union Pacific before SCOTUS.
The oral argument is here:
https://www.supremecourt.gov/media/audio/mp3files/20-807.mp3
37:28
March 31, 2022

Episode 86- It takes away Situational discretion
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Predictions Sure To Go Wrong: Daniels: reverse Dawkins: affirm Lichter: reverse
Oral argument in Daniels is here:
https://www.illinoiscourts.gov/courts/supreme-court/oral-argument-audio-and-video/#audioModal
Oral argument in Dawkins is here:
https://www.illinoiscourts.gov/courts/supreme-court/oral-argument-audio-and-video/
The oral argument in Lichter is here:
https://www.illinoiscourts.gov/courts/supreme-court/oral-argument-audio-and-video/#audioModalOral
48:35
March 28, 2022

Episode 85 - The Walmart of the Precast Industry
Show notes:
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Predictions Sure To Go Wrong: Pierce: affirm Midwest: reverse County Concrete: punt
Oral argument in Pierce is here:
https://www.illinoiscourts.gov/courts/appellate-court/oral-argument-audio/#audioModal
Oral argument in Midwest is here:
https://www.illinoiscourts.gov/courts/supreme-court/oral-argument-audio-and-video/#audioModal
Oral argument in Country is here:
https://mycourts.in.gov/arguments/default.aspx?&id=2620&view=detail&yr=&when=&page=1&court=app&search=&direction=%20ASC&future=False&sort=&judge=&county=&admin=False&pageSize=20
52:20
March 20, 2022

Episode 84- The Peter Principle is Indivisible
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Predictions Sure To Go Wrong: American Sprinkler: Affirm Mandell: Afirm
Oral argument in American Sprinkler is here:
https://mycourts.in.gov/arguments/default.aspx?&id=2623&view=detail&yr=&when=&page=1&court=app&search=&direction=%20ASC&future=False&sort=&judge=&county=&admin=False&pageSize=20
Oral argument in Mandell is here:
https://www.illinoiscourts.gov/courts/appellate-court/oral-argument-audio/#audioModal
50:21
March 13, 2022

Episode 83 - Easy way and slightly less easy way, but both ways are correct.
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Predictions Sure To Go Wrong: Alley 64: Reverse Schutte: Affirm Walker: Reverse
Oral argument in Alley 64 is here:
https://www.illinoiscourts.gov/courts/appellate-court/oral-argument-audio/#audioModal
Oral argument in Schutte is here:
http://media.ca7.uscourts.gov/sound/external/mn.22-1087.22-1087_03_01_2022.mp3
CAFA is here:
http://media.ca7.uscourts.gov/sound/external/mn.22-1087.22-1087_03_01_2022.mp3
Walker oral argument is here:
https://www.illinoiscourts.gov/courts/appellate-court/oral-argument-audio/#audioModal
44:09
March 06, 2022

Episode 82- Now’s the time to get in that damn truck and leave
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Prediction Sure To Go Wrong: Ebert: Reverse trial court or vacate grant is transfer
Oral argument is here:
http://content.ilight.net/supremecourt/02242022_0900am.mp3
29:08
February 27, 2022

Episode 81 - Not in a position to argue with Starbucks’ Success
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Predictions Sure To Go Wrong: West Bend: Pat: reverse Dan: affirm 55 Jackson: Reverse Cassirer:
Reverse Oral argument in West Bend is here:
https://www.illinoiscourts.gov/courts/appellate-court/oral-argument-audio/
Oral argument in 55 Jackson can be found here:
https://www.illinoiscourts.gov/courts/appellate-court/oral-argument-audio/#audioModal
Oral argument in Cassirer can be found here:
https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_transcripts/2021/20-1566_1824.pdf
48:07
February 20, 2022

Episode 80 - Looking at informed consent in a vacuum
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Predictions Sure To Go Wrong: Walton: Reversed Inman: Affirmed Padgett: Affirmed
Oral arguments in Walton and Inman can be found here:
https://www.illinoiscourts.gov/courts/appellate-court/oral-argument-audio/#audioModal
Oral argument in Padgett can be found here:
http://media.ca7.uscourts.gov/sound/external/gw.21-2488.21-2488_02_10_2022.mp3
Ohio supreme court can be found here:
https://www.ohiochannel.org/video/supreme-court-of-ohio-case-no-2021-0130-neuro-communication-servs-inc-v-cincinnati-ins-co
9th Circuit case can be found here:
https://media-exp1.licdn.com/dms/document/C561FAQEYehBVhEpPXA/feedshare-document-pdf-analyzed/0/1644448204313?e=1644771600&v=beta&t=Fz3ugQeVhrQoAycEHSrfraFhSwrax3gfD9z54LhNtHM
56:43
February 13, 2022

Episode 79 - This is a close case
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Precictions Sure To Go Wrong: Legend's Creek: Affirm Weaver: Reverse Johnson: Reverse
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Oral argument in Legend’s can be found here: http://media.ca7.uscourts.gov/sound/external/mn.20-3163.20-3163_01_18_2022.mp3
Oral argument in Speedway can be found here: http://media.ca7.uscourts.gov/sound/external/mn.21-1957.21-1957_01_25_2022.mp3
Oral argument in Johnson can be found here: https://mycourts.in.gov/arguments/default.aspx?&id=2599&view=detail&yr=&when=&page=1&court=sup&search=&direction=%20ASC&future=False&sort=&judge=&county=&admin=False&pageSize=20
2-610 can be found here: https://ilga.gov/legislation/ilcs/documents/073500050K2-610.htm#:~:text=2%2D610.,pleading%20to%20which%20it%20relates.&text=(c)%20Denials%20must%20not%20be,substance%20of%20the%20allegation%20denied
53:29
February 06, 2022

Episode 78 - Let's give them 2 minutes for rebuttal
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Predictions Sure To Go Wrong: Peoria Ice Cream: affirm Illinois Union:
Affirm Oral arguments in Peoria Ice Cream Co. v. Zosky and Illinois Union Insurance Co. v. Medline Industries, Inc. can be found at:
https://www.illinoiscourts.gov/courts/appellate-court/oral-argument-audio/
01:00:33
February 01, 2022

Episode 77- Please State Your Name
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Predictions Sure To Go Wrong: Green Beginnings: Affirm Paradigm: Affirm Melcorp: Affirm Circle Block: Affirm Sweet Berry: Affirm Sauk Village: Affirm DHL: Affirm
The oral argument in Green Beginnings, LLC v. West Bend Mutual Insurance is here:
http://media.ca7.uscourts.gov/sound/external/mn.21-2186.21-2186_01_14_2022.mp3
The oral argument in Paradigm Care & Enrichment Cen v. West Bend Mutual Insurance is here:
http://media.ca7.uscourts.gov/sound/external/mn.21-1695.21-1695_01_14_2022.mp3
The oral argument in Melcorp, Inc. v. West American Insurance is here:
http://media.ca7.uscourts.gov/sound/external/mn.21-2448.21-2448_01_14_2022.mp3
The oral argument in Circle Block Partners, LLC v. Fireman's Fund Insurance is here:
http://media.ca7.uscourts.gov/sound/external/mn.21-2459.21-2459_01_14_2022.mp3
The oral argument in Paradigm Care & Enrichment Cen v. West Bend Mutual Insurance is here:
http://media.ca7.uscourts.gov/sound/external/mn.21-1695.21-1695_01_14_2022.mp3
Oral argument in Sweet Berry is here:
The oral argument is here:
https://www.illinoiscourts.gov/courts/appellate-court/oral-argument-audio/#audioModal
Oral argument in Sauk Village can be found here:
https://www.illinoiscourts.gov/courts/supreme-court/oral-argument-audio-and-video/#audioModal
Oral argument in DHL can be found here:
http://media.ca7.uscourts.gov/sound/external/mm.21-2505.21-2505_01_12_2022.mp3
55:39
January 23, 2022

Episode 76 - The Plain Meaning
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Predictions Sure To Go Wrong: Herndon: Affirm Illinois Road: Reverse Secura:
Reverse Oral argument in Herndon can be found here:
https://www.illinoiscourts.gov/courts/appellate-court/oral-argument-audio/
The relevant statute in Herndon can be found here:
https://www.ilga.gov/legislation/ilcs/fulltext.asp?DocName=023500050K6-21
Oral argument in Illinois Road can be found here:
https://www.illinoiscourts.gov/courts/supreme-court/oral-argument-audio-and-video/#audioModal
Oral argument in Secura can be found here:
https://www.illinoiscourts.gov/courts/appellate-court/oral-argument-audio/
54b can be found here:
https://www.law.cornell.edu/rules/frcp/rule_54
45:25
January 16, 2022

Episode 75 - Covid week
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Predictions Sure to Go Wrong: Verveine: affirm OSHA: reverse CMS:
Reverse Oral argument in Verveine can be found here:
https://boston.suffolk.edu/sjc/archive.php
The OSHA case can be found at:
https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_audio/2021
The CMS case can be found at:
https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_audio/2021
48:02
January 09, 2022

Episode 74 - Upon pain of dismissal
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Predictions Sure To Go Wrong: Webster: reverse Ewing: reverse Becerra:
Reverse The oral argument in Webster is here:
http://media.ca7.uscourts.gov/sound/external/mm.21-1299.21-1299_12_14_2021.mp3
The oral argument in Ewing is here:
http://media.ca7.uscourts.gov/sound/external/mm.21-1276.21-1276_12_14_2021.mp3
Oral argument in Becerra is here:
https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/audio/2021/20-1312
The 7thCircuit order on remote hearings:
https://www.ca7.uscourts.gov/general-orders/General_Order_21-011.pdf
52:30
January 04, 2022

Episode 73 - We’re Really not interested in unpublished opinions
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Predictions Sure To Go Wrong: Galvin: Affirm Henry: Affirm Mason: Affirm
The oral argument in Galvin is here:
https://www.illinoiscourts.gov/courts/appellate-court/oral-argument-audio/#audioModa
The oral argument in Henry is here:
https://mycourts.in.gov/arguments/default.aspx?&id=2612&view=detail&yr=&when=&page=1&court=app&search=&direction=%20ASC&future=False&sort=&judge=&county=&admin=False&pageSize=20
The oral argument in Mason is here:
https://www.illinoiscourts.gov/courts/appellate-court/oral-argument-audio/
Cory Webster's LinkedIn Post for the Rule of the Week is here:
https://www.linkedin.com/posts/corywebster_me-i-wouldnt-cite-these-unpublished-cases-activity-6877684560025518080-hy2L
43:13
December 26, 2021

Episode 72 - Doctors are not absolutely immune
Dan and Pat are joined by Ed Grasse and Christopher Willis to discuss the Illinois Supreme Court's decision in Thomas v. Khoury previously discussed on Episodes 15 and 16.
35:16
December 23, 2021

Episode 71 - In re Syngenta Litigation
Dan and Pat are joined by Tim Eaton to discuss this recent argument before the Illinois Appellate Court, Fifth District.
37:02
December 22, 2021

Episode 70 - What is on your minds?
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Predictions Sure To Go Wrong: Lake Imaging: reverse Wilson: reverse Duniver:
Punt The oral argument in Lake is here:
https://mycourts.in.gov/arguments/default.aspx?&id=2606&view=detail&yr=&when=&page=1&court=SUP&search=&direction=%20ASC&future=True&sort=&judge=&county=&admin=False&pageSize=20
The oral argument in Wilson is here:
https://www.illinoiscourts.gov/courts/appellate-court/oral-argument-audio/#audioModal
The oral argument in Duniver is here:
https://www.illinoiscourts.gov/courts/appellate-court/oral-argument-audio/#audioModal
The Donahue argument is here:
https://www.illinoiscourts.gov/courts/appellate-court/oral-argument-audio/
49:53
December 19, 2021

Episode 69 - Can you hear me now?
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Predictions Sure To Go Wrong: Brown: Affirmed Campbell-Henry: Dan: Affirm, Pat: Reverse Pryor: Affirm
The oral argument is Brown is here: https://www.illinoiscourts.gov/courts/appellate-court/oral-argument-audio/#audioModal
The oral argument in Campbell-Henry is here: https://www.illinoiscourts.gov/courts/appellate-court/oral-argument-audio/#audioModal
The Gilbert case is here: https://law.justia.com/cases/illinois/supreme-court/1993/74319-7.html
The oral argument in Pryor v. Chicago Transit Authority is here: https://www.illinoiscourts.gov/courts/appellate-court/oral-argument-audio/#audioModal
Oasis post is here: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/amyejohnson_follow-the-rules-activity-6875182854230327296-uUA8/
59:38
December 12, 2021

Episode 68 - Jones v. Kuschell
Dan and Pat are joined by Larry Rogers, Jr. and Jonathan Thomas to discuss the Seventh Circuit's recent decision in this qualified immunity case.
33:24
December 08, 2021

Episode 67 - Not shocked enough for Bivens
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Predictions Sure To Go Wrong: Jackson: Reverse to replead Lovelace: Dismiss for lack of jurisdiction Greenpoint: Dan affirm Pat: Reverse
Oral argument in Jackson can be found here:
https://www.illinoiscourts.gov/courts/appellate-court/oral-argument-audio/
Oral argument in Lovelace can be found here:http://media.ca7.uscourts.gov/sound/external/gw.20-3254.20-3254_11_30_2021.mp3
Oral argument in Greenpoint can be found here:
http://media.ca7.uscourts.gov/sound/external/gw.21-1411.21-1411_11_30_2021.mp3
The 5thcircuit opinion can be found here:
https://www.ca5.uscourts.gov/opinions/pub/20/20-50003-CV0.pdf?fbclid=IwAR0ND-hx9AjD7NYf9oO-E3P79PaTE3uT6pg-w7b8nsefwW3VJwVsUQ3LFZE
52:13
December 06, 2021

Episode 66 - The Theme Show
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Predictions Sure To Wrong: Goodwill: Affirm Indiana Reparatory Theater: Affirm Watson: Affirm Jones: Affirm
Oral argument in Goodwill is here:
https://www.ca10.uscourts.gov/sites/ca10/files/oralarguments/21-6045.mp3
oral argument in Watson can be found here:
https://www.illinoiscourts.gov/courts/appellate-court/oral-argument-audio/
Oral argument in Jones is here:
http://media.ca7.uscourts.gov/sound/external/gw.21-1742.21-1742_11_16_2021.mp3
Cory’s post on LI can be found here:
https://www.linkedin.com/posts/corywebster_elation-systems-v-fenn-bridge-activity-6869368237470154752-sY1U/
43:32
November 28, 2021

Episode 65: Why's that a problem?
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Predictions Sure To Go Wrong: Munoz: Affirm Doe: Reverse Carlson:
Affirm Ittersagen is here:
https://media-exp1.licdn.com/dms/document/C4E1FAQGCplOsne3JkQ/feedshare-document-pdf-analyzed/0/1637317576977?e=1637506800&v=beta&t=swxdHBWhnefOEyZF8marldgvl5oXEkzXQtpZOLqAti8
Oral arguments in the three IL SCT cases can be found here:
https://www.illinoiscourts.gov/courts/supreme-court/oral-argument-audio-and-video/
55:17
November 21, 2021

Episode 64 - Destination is destiny
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Predictions Sure To Go Wrong: Harding: Reverse AFM: Affirm Bearden: Affirm
Oral argument in Harding is here:
https://www.illinoiscourts.gov/courts/appellate-court/oral-argument-audio/#audioModal
Oral argument in AFM is here:
https://media.ca7.uscourts.gov/sound/external/mm.21-1865.21-1865_11_10_2021.mp3
Oral argument in Bearden is Here:
https://www.illinoiscourts.gov/courts/appellate-court/oral-argument-audio/#audioModal
44:37
November 14, 2021

Episode 63: You usually do not amend your complaint when you win
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Predictions Sure To Go Wrong: Zimmer Biomet: Affirm Fisher: Reverse for repleading NCAA: Reverse
Oral argument in Zimmer Biomet is here:
http://media.ca7.uscourts.gov/sound/external/mn.21-1224.21-1224_10_26_2021.mp3
Oral argument in Fisher can be found here:
https://www.illinoiscourts.gov/courts/appellate-court/oral-argument-audio/
The oral argument in NCAA is here:
https://mycourts.in.gov/arguments/default.aspx?&id=2597&view=detail&yr=&when=&page=1&court=SUP&search=&direction=%20ASC&future=True&sort=&judge=&county=&admin=False&pageSize=20
50:46
November 07, 2021

Episode 62: Doctors (allegedly) Behaving Badly
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Predictions Sure To Go Wrong: Tinsley: Affirm Hindsman: Affirm
Oral arguments can be found here:
https://www.illinoiscourts.gov/courts/appellate-court/oral-argument-audio/
735 ILCS 5/2-401(e) is here:
https://www.ilga.gov/legislation/ilcs/documents/073500050K2-401.htm
The Illinois Gender Violence Act is here:
https://www.ilga.gov/legislation/ilcs/ilcs3.asp?ActID=2494&ChapterID=57
735 ILCS 5/13-217 is here:
https://www.ilga.gov/legislation/ilcs/fulltext.asp?DocName=073500050K13-217
Rule 42 can be found here:
https://www.law.cornell.edu/rules/frcp/rule_42
42:39
October 31, 2021

Episode 61 - The Gun Show
Ahead of the argument in New York Pistol & Rifle v. Bruen before SCOTUS next week, David Sigale joins the show to discuss several recent Illinois Supreme Court and Seventh Circuit decisions regarding gun rights.
01:02:50
October 30, 2021

Episode 60: You keep arguing don’t read another word in statute, but asking us to add many words
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Predictions Sure To Go Wrong: Ricks: Dan: reverse Pat: affirm Jackson: reverse Importa: affirm
The oral arguments can all be found here:
https://www.illinoiscourts.gov/courts/appellate-court/oral-argument-audio/
625 ILCS 5/1-134.1 is here:
https://www.ilga.gov/legislation/ilcs/documents/062500050K1-134.1.htm
625 ILCS 5/3-104.5 is here:
https://ilga.gov/legislation/ilcs/documents/062500050K3-104.5.htm
625 ILCS 5/3-301 is here:
https://www.ilga.gov/legislation/ilcs/fulltext.asp?DocName=062500050K3-301
56:28
October 24, 2021

Episode 59 - The Supreme Episode
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Predictions Sure To Go Wrong: Hemphill: Reversed Zubaydah: Reversed Cameron: Dan: reversed Pat: affirmed on jurisdiction
The oral argument in Hemphill is here:
https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/audio/2021/20-637
The oral argument in Zubaydah is here:
https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/audio/2021/20-827
The oral argument in Cameron is here:
https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/audio/2021/20-601
55:43
October 17, 2021

Episode 58 - Who Thinks That?
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Predictions Sure To Go Wrong: West Bend: Affirm Wooden: Reverse Olson:
Affirm Oral argument in Wooden can be found here:
https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/audio/2021/20-5279
Oral arguments in West Bend and Olson can be found at:
https://www.illinoiscourts.gov/courts/appellate-court/oral-argument-audio/
47:55
October 10, 2021

Episode 57 - Isn't this case moot?
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Predictions Sure To Go Wrong: Armstead: Affirm Iggersagen: Affirm Schultz: Reverse
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https://www.illinoiscourts.gov/courts/supreme-court/oral-argument-audio-and-video/
01:00:16
October 04, 2021

Episode 56 - Let’s Not Jurisdictionalize Them
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Predictions Sure Tp Go Wrong: Becker: Reverse Dinerstein: Affirm on standing
The argument in Becker can be found here:
https://www.illinoiscourts.gov/courts/appellate-court/oral-argument-audio/#audioModal
The argument in Dinerstein can be found here:
http://media.ca7.uscourts.gov/sound/external/gw.20-3134.20-3134_09_17_2021.mp3
41:06
October 01, 2021

Episode 55 - Once you start using initialisms, it is hard to stop
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Predictions Sure To Go Wrong: Cathron: Certification to Illinois Supreme Court McDonald: Affirm
The argument in Cothron can be found here:
The oral argument is linked here:
http://media.ca7.uscourts.gov/sound/external/gw.20-3202.20-3202_09_14_2021.mp3
McDonald argument can be found here:
https://www.illinoiscourts.gov/courts/supreme-court/oral-argument-audio-and-video/
The Tims decision can be found here:
https://media-exp1.licdn.com/dms/document/C4E1FAQH64x6ZgWeUYg/feedshare-document-pdf-analyzed/0/1631956564678?e=1632621600&v=beta&t=FrltGjIN6nhAr7mnTePuzjY6tRGEDqm3SWIBwM6gDuY
The article Pat published on standing in Illinois with Calvin Townsend on Rosenbach v. Six Flags, the first case in which the Illinois Supreme Court addressed BIPA, is here:
https://www.pretzel-stouffer.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/Im-Still-Standing.pdf
735 ILCS 5/13-205 is here:
https://www.ilga.gov/legislation/ilcs/documents/073500050k13-205.htm
735 ILCS 5/13-201 is here:
https://www.ilga.gov/legislation/ilcs/documents/073500050k13-201.htm
52:05
September 26, 2021

Episode 54 - What is the limiting principle?
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Predictions Sure To Go Wrong: Doe: Reverse and reinstate jury verdict Didonato: Affirm K.G.: Affirm (maybe not even grant transfer)
The links to oral arguments are here:
http://media.ca7.uscourts.gov/sound/external/gw.20-1692.20-1692_09_13_2021.mp3
https://www.illinoiscourts.gov/courts/supreme-court/oral-argument-audio-and-video/#audioModal
http://content.ilight.net/supremecourt/09162021_1000am.mp3
45:14
September 24, 2021

Episode 53 - Please answer my question
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Predictions Sure To Go Wrong: Crescent Plaza: Bend Hotel: Mashallah, Inc.: Bradley Hotel:
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Oral argument in Bradley can be found here:
http://media.ca7.uscourts.gov/sound/external/mn.21-1173.21-1173_09_10_2021.mp3
Oral argument in Masallah can be found here:
http://media.ca7.uscourts.gov/sound/external/mn.21-1507.21-1507_09_10_2021.mp3
Oral argument in Bend can be found here:
http://media.ca7.uscourts.gov/sound/external/mn.21-1559.21-1559_09_10_2021.mp3
Crescent can be found here:
http://media.ca7.uscourts.gov/sound/external/mn.21-1316.21-1316_09_10_2021.mp3
52:25
September 19, 2021

Episode 52 - Judgment vs. fees
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Predictions Sure To Go Wrong: Exel: affirm Central Irrigation: affirm
Oral argument in Exel can be found here:
https://www.illinoiscourts.gov/courts/appellate-court/oral-argument-audio/#audioModal
Pat’s article with Matthew Tibble and Jonathan Federman is here:
https://www.pretzel-stouffer.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/we-volunteered-for-what-29.3.28.pdf
Pat’s article with Edward Grassé is here:
https://www.pretzel-stouffer.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/Times-a-Changin.pdf
Oral argument in Central Irrigation can be found here:
https://www.illinoiscourts.gov/courts/appellate-court/oral-argument-audio/#audioModal
The prior opinion in Central Irrigation is here:
https://www.illinoiscourts.gov/resources/11e08639-fc76-4b59-8c80-1a6390541bd2/file
49:02
September 13, 2021

Episode 51 - Chameleon-like litigants
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Predictions Sure To Go Wrong: Sentinel: affirm Berg: affirm Davis: affirm
Sentinel oral argument can be found at:
https://www.ca2.uscourts.gov/decisions
Oral argument in Berg can be found here:
https://www.illinoiscourts.gov/courts/appellate-court/oral-argument-audio/
Oral argument in Davis v. Pace can be found here:
https://www.illinoiscourts.gov/courts/appellate-court/oral-argument-audio/
Rule 311 can be found at:
https://casetext.com/rule/illinois-court-rules/illinois-supreme-court-rules/article-iii-civil-appeals-rules/part-a-appeals-from-the-circuit-court/rule-311-accelerated-docket
56:00
September 05, 2021

Episode 50 - An ill-fated trip to Taco Bell
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Predictions Sure To Go Wrong: Dotson: affirm Dustman: affirm Turner:
AffirmThe oral argument in Dodson is here:
https://www.illinoiscourts.gov/courts/appellate-court/oral-argument-audio/#audioModal
The oral argument in Dustman is here:
https://www.illinoiscourts.gov/courts/appellate-court/oral-argument-audio/#audioModal
The oral argument in Turner is linked here:
https://www.illinoiscourts.gov/courts/appellate-court/oral-argument-audio/#audioModal
The applicable section of the definition of cross walk under Illinois law is here:
https://casetext.com/statute/illinois-compiled-statutes/transportation/chapter-625-vehicles/act-5-illinois-vehicle-code/division-chapter-1-title-and-definitions/section-625-ilcs-51-113-crosswalk
The applicable section of the Tort Immunity Act is here:
https://www.ilga.gov/legislation/ilcs/fulltext.asp?DocName=074500100K3-102
The Municipal Code of the City of Granite City is here:
https://library.municode.com/il/granite_city/codes/municipal_code
Rule 191a can be found here:
https://casetext.com/rule/illinois-court-rules/illinois-supreme-court-rules/article-ii-rules-on-civil-proceedings-in-the-trial-court/part-d-motions-for-summary-judgments-and-evidentiary-affidavits/rule-191-proceedings-under-sections-2-1005-2-619-and-2-301b-of-the-code-of-civil-procedure
43:53
August 29, 2021

Episode 49- That’s where we find ourselves
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Predictions Sure To Go Wrong: Miller: Reverse Giacomo: Affirm Seals: Reverse
The oral arguments in Miller is here:
https://www.illinoiscourts.gov/courts/appellate-court/oral-argument-audio/#audioModal
Pat’s article with Matthew Reddy on efiling in the Illinois Defense Counsel Quarterly is here:
https://www.pretzel-stouffer.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/26.2.45.pdf
The rule regarding motions to transfer forum in Illinois is here:
https://casetext.com/rule/illinois-court-rules/illinois-supreme-court-rules/article-ii-rules-on-civil-proceedings-in-the-trial-court/part-c-appearances-and-time-for-answers-replies-and-motions/rule-187-motions-on-grounds-of-forum-non-conveniens
The rule regarding motions to transfer venue is here:
https://www.ilga.gov/legislation/ilcs/fulltext.asp?DocName=073500050K2-104
Oral argument in Giacomo is here:
https://www.illinoiscourts.gov/courts/appellate-court/oral-argument-audio/#audioModal
Oral argument in Seals is here:
https://www.illinoiscourts.gov/courts/appellate-court/oral-argument-audio/#audioModal
Rule 308 can be found here:
https://casetext.com/rule/illinois-court-rules/illinois-supreme-court-rules/article-iii-civil-appeals-rules/part-a-appeals-from-the-circuit-court/rule-308-certified-questions
50:17
August 22, 2021

Episode 48 - My little flow chart
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Predictions Sure To Go Wrong: Mudpie: affirm Selane: affirm Chattanooga: affirm
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The oral argument in Mudpie, Inc. v. Travelers Casualty Insurance is here:
https://www.ca9.uscourts.gov/media/audio/?20210811/20-16858/
The oral argument in Selane Products, Inc. v. Continental Casualty Company is here:
https://www.ca9.uscourts.gov/media/audio/?20210811/21-55123/
The oral argument in Chattanooga Pro Baseball v. National Casualty Company is here:
https://www.ca9.uscourts.gov/media/audio/?20210811/20-17422/
Rule 306 can be found here:
https://casetext.com/rule/illinois-court-rules/illinois-supreme-court-rules/article-iii-civil-appeals-rules/part-a-appeals-from-the-circuit-court/rule-306-interlocutory-appeals-by-permission
50:47
August 15, 2021

Episode 47 - Let the Bomb Proliferate?
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Predictions Sure to Go Wrong: Silver: Affirmed Banks: Reversed
The oral argument in Silver is here:
https://www.illinoiscourts.gov/courts/appellate-court/oral-argument-audio/#audioModal
A recent decision dealing with personal jurisdiction is discussed in this post:
https://www.linkedin.com/posts/donald-patrick-eckler-69880814_civilprocedure-law-insurance-activity-
Oral argument in Banks is here:
https://www.illinoiscourts.gov/courts/appellate-court/oral-argument-audio/#audioModal
Rule 404 is here:
https://casetext.com/rule/illinois-court-rules/illinois-rules-of-evidence/article-iv-relevancy-and-its-limits/rule-404-character-evidence-not-admissible-to-prove-conduct-exceptions-other-crimes
Iowa appellate guide is here:
https://www.iowacourts.gov/static/media/cms/E0404_AF4815BAA007A.pdf
34:05
August 08, 2021

Episode 46 - Beaman gets his day in court
On this episode, Dan and Pat are joined by David Shapiro again (previously on Episode 5) to discuss the recent victory for the appellant in Beaman v. Freesmeyer before the Illinois Supreme Court. After being wrongfully convicted and incarcerated for 13 years, in 2008, Beaman's conviction was overturned and he was subsequently pardoned on the basis of being innocent. He is now pursuing state law claims against the officers who he claims maliciously prosecuted him after having his Section 1983 claims dismissed by the 7th Circuit.
Please check our episodes 4, 5, and 45 where we discuss the case more.
22:32
August 05, 2021

Episode 45 - The Supreme Court Plan B'd a Guy
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Predictions Sure to Go Wrong: Umtani: affirm Huston: affirm Federal: reverse on statute of limitations
Oral argument in Umrani is here:
https://www.illinoiscourts.gov/courts/appellate-court/oral-argument-audio/#audioModal
Rule 303 is here:
https://casetext.com/rule/illinois-court-rules/illinois-supreme-court-rules/article-iii-civil-appeals-rules/part-a-appeals-from-the-circuit-court/rule-303-appeals-from-final-judgments-of-the-circuit-court-in-civil-cases
The prior appellate court opinion is here:
https://casetext.com/case/umrani-v-sindhi-assn-of-n-am
Oral argument in Hutson is here:
https://www.illinoiscourts.gov/courts/appellate-court/oral-argument-audio/#audioModal
Oral argument in Westfield is here:
https://www.illinoiscourts.gov/courts/appellate-court/oral-argument-audio/#audioModal
735 ILCS 5/13-204 is here:
https://ilga.gov/legislation/ilcs/documents/073500050K13-204.htm
Indeck decision is here:
https://ilcourtsaudio.blob.core.windows.net/antilles-resources/resources/fbd2501e-dc52-4aa9-924b-f1728edb769a/Indeck%20Energy%20Services,%20Inc.%20v.%20DePodesta%20%202021%20IL%20125733.pdf
Beaman decision is here:
https://ilcourtsaudio.blob.core.windows.net/antilles-resources/resources/6f744064-a2d4-4fae-a350-c627dea0c7a2/Beaman%20v.%20Freesmeyer%202021%20IL%20125617.pdf
53:06
August 01, 2021

Episode 44 - She certainly waffled
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Predictions Sure To Go Wrong: Hyatt: affirm McCarthy: reverse Bierman:
Reverse The oral argument in Hyatt is here:
https://www.illinoiscourts.gov/courts/appellate-court/oral-argument-audio/#audioModal
The monograph authored by Pat with Andrew Corkery, Adam Carter, David A Warnick, and Michael D. Gallo for the Illinois Defense Counsel Quarterly on forum non conveniens is here:
https://www.linkedin.com/posts/donald-patrick-eckler-69880814_forum-monograph-activity-6775118943658004480-MTHn
Oral argument in McCarthy can be found here:
https://www.illinoiscourts.gov/courts/appellate-court/oral-argument-audio/#audioModal
Oral argument in Bierman can be found here:
https://www.illinoiscourts.gov/courts/appellate-court/oral-argument-audio/
The prior appellate court opinion in Bierman is here:
https://law.justia.com/cases/illinois/court-of-appeals-fifth-appellate-district/2019/5-18-0426.html
43:60
July 25, 2021

Episode 43 - Turnt for the Ministerial Exception
On this episode Dan and Pat are joined by Jessica Holliday to discuss Demkovich v. St. Andrew an en banc decision of the 7th Circuit regarding the application of the ministerial exception in the hostile work environment context.
Dan and Pat have previously discussed the case on Episode 9 and 42.
35:33
July 23, 2021

Episode 42 - They want us to do what?
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Predictions Sure to Go Wrong: Irving Park: affirm Jerman: affirm
https://www.illinoiscourts.gov/courts/appellate-court/oral-argument-audio/#audioModal
Woolsey oral argument can be found here:
https://www.illinoiscourts.gov/courts/appellate-court/oral-argument-audio/
An article from the DuPage County Bar Association on this issue is here:
https://www.dcba.org/mpage/v31-Joseph-Nichele
Rule 329 can be found here:
https://casetext.com/rule/illinois-court-rules/illinois-supreme-court-rules/article-iii-civil-appeals-rules/part-c-record-on-appeal/rule-329-supplement-to-the-record-on-appeal
Rule 366 can be found here:
https://casetext.com/rule/illinois-court-rules/illinois-supreme-court-rules/article-iii-civil-appeals-rules/part-f-other-provisions/rule-366-powers-of-reviewing-court-scope-of-review-and-procedure-lien-of-judgment
53:28
July 17, 2021

Episode 41 – A Bundle of Sticks
In this episode Dan and Pat welcome back Wen Fa of the Pacific Legal Foundation to discuss the SCOTUS decision in Cedar Point v. Hassid. We discussed the oral argument in this case on Episode 18 of the show and we thank Wen for coming back to discuss the decision.
The decision is linked here:
https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/20pdf/20-107_ihdj.pdf
26:21
July 09, 2021

Episode 40 - AFP v. Bonta – The Conclusion (Hopefully)
Dan and Pat are joined once again by Louie Castoria to discuss the SCOTUS decision in AFP v. Bonta. The decision was released on July 1, 2021 and is a substantial 1st Amendment decision.
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We previously discussed the case on Episodes 3 and 26.
The decision is linked here: https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/20pdf/19-251_p86b.pdf
33:39
July 05, 2021

Episode 39: It was a yes or no answer
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Predictions Sure To Go Wrong: Christo: affirm Wylie: affirm
The oral argument in Christo is linked here:
https://www.illinoiscourts.gov/courts/appellate-court/oral-argument-audio/#audioModal
Illinois Rule of Professional Conduct 1.14 is here:
https://casetext.com/rule/illinois-court-rules/illinois-supreme-court-rules/article-viii-illinois-rules-of-professional-conduct-of-2010/rule-114-client-with-diminished-capacity
Pat’s article in the Illinois Defense Counsel Quarterly on a similar situation is here:
https://www.pretzel-stouffer.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/24.4.18.pdf
Cook County Local Rule 12.15 is here:
http://www.cookcountycourt.org/FOR-ATTORNEYS-LITIGANTS/Rules-of-the-Court/Read-Local-Rule/ArticleId/147/12-15-Personal-Injury-or-Wrongful-Death-Actions
Cook County Local Rule 12.12 is here:
http://www.cookcountycourt.org/FOR-ATTORNEYS-LITIGANTS/Rules-of-the-Court/Read-Local-Rule/ArticleId/144/12-12-Modification-of-Duties-or-Discharge-of-Guardian-Notice
Cook County Local Rule 6.4 is here:
http://www.cookcountycourt.org/FOR-ATTORNEYS-LITIGANTS/Rules-of-the-Court/Read-Local-Rule/ArticleId/171/6-4-Disposition-of-Pending-Cases-of-Minors-or-Disabled-Persons
The oral argument in Wylie is here:
https://www.illinoiscourts.gov/courts/appellate-court/oral-argument-audio/#audioModal
54:21
July 04, 2021

Episode 38- Game of Jenga
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Predictions Sure To Go Wrong: Struder: Reversed Amita: Reversed
The oral argument in Struder is here:
https://www.illinoiscourts.gov/courts/appellate-court/oral-argument-audio/#audioModal
The oral argument in Amita is here:
https://www.illinoiscourts.gov/courts/appellate-court/oral-argument-audio/#audioModal
The Rights of Crime Victims and Witnesses Act is here:
https://www.ilga.gov/legislation/ilcs/ilcs3.asp?ActID=1970&ChapterID=54
The statutory codification of the physician-patient privilege is here:
https://www.ilga.gov/legislation/ilcs/fulltext.asp?DocName=073500050K8-802
The Illinois Constitution's Bill of Rights is here:
https://www.ilga.gov/commission/lrb/con1.htm
01:01:37
June 27, 2021

Episode 37- If you don’t ask, you don’t get
Follow Dan on LinkedIn at linkedin.com/in/cotterdan Follow Pat on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/donald-patrick-eckler-69880814/ Follow the show at: https://www.linkedin.com/company/podium-and-panel-podcast Predictions Sure to Go Wrong: Notre Dame: Affirm Ford: Affirm The link to the oral argument in Notre Dame can be found here: https://mycourts.in.gov/arguments/default.aspx?&id=2561&view=detail&yr=&when=&page=1&court=&search=&direction=%20ASC&future=False&sort=&judge=&county=&admin=False&pageSize=20 Pat’s LinkedIn post in Notre Dame can be found here: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/donald-patrick-eckler-69880814_new-trial-activity-6810848315035451392-AKgV Oral argument in Ford can be found here: https://www.illinoiscourts.gov/courts/appellate-court/oral-argument-audio/ Pat’s LinkeIn post on Ford is here: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/donald-patrick-eckler-69880814_asbestos-and-brakes-activity-6811239004743229440-3mhH The Rivera opinion can be found here: https://media-exp1.licdn.com/dms/document/C4E1FAQFwKFKNl1AwWg/feedshare-document-pdf-analyzed/0/1623832221407?e=1623974400&v=beta&t=pA-eNv2QOTm_1i9-s911FoPKi7w3OrH91niAK4V5Q0E Williams can be found here: https://ilcourtsaudio.blob.core.windows.net/antilles-resources/resources/e34b0f7f-713d-44f7-a1f3-c0b37ca246d3/2200353_R23.pdf
43:23
June 18, 2021

Episode 36 - Invited Error
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Predictions Sure To Go Wrong: Copper Bend: Affirm Victim A: Affirm Williams: Reverse
The link to the oral argument in Copper Bend is here:
https://www.illinoiscourts.gov/courts/appellate-court/oral-argument-audio/#audioModal
Pat’s post on Copper Bend can be found here:
https://www.linkedin.com/posts/donald-patrick-eckler-69880814_law-arbitration-lawyers-activity-6809413100995956736-MaNF
Oral argument in Victim A can be found here:
https://www.illinoiscourts.gov/courts/appellate-court/oral-argument-audio/#audioModal
Pat’s first column on 2-1117 with Dave Levitt is here:
https://www.pretzel-stouffer.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/20-5-6-CDLB-Column-Failt-Apportionment-Part-II.pdf
Pat’s second column on 2-1117 with Dave Levitt is here:
https://www.pretzel-stouffer.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/20-4-29-CDLB-Column-Fault-Apportionment-Part-I.pdf
735 ILCS 5/2-1117 is here:
https://www.ilga.gov/legislation/ilcs/fulltext.asp?DocName=073500050K2-1117
Oral argument in Williams can be found here:
https://www.illinoiscourts.gov/courts/appellate-court/oral
45:26
June 13, 2021

Episode 35 - The dead are not going to rule the living
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Predictions Sure To Go Wrong: Miller: Rotert: Renner:
Oral argument in Miller can be found here:
https://mycourts.in.gov/arguments/default.aspx?&id=2556&view=detail&yr=&when=&page=1&court=SUP&search=&dire
Indiana Trial Rule 15 is here:
https://casetext.com/rule/indiana-court-rules/indiana-rules-of-trial-procedure/pleadings-and-motions/rule-15-amended-and-supplemental-pleadings
Federal Rule of Civil Procedure 15 is here:
https://www.law.cornell.edu/rules/frcp/rule_15
Pat’s post on the case can be found here:
https://www.linkedin.com/posts/donald-patrick-eckler-69880814_emtala-ugcPost-6807616179897720832-vmar
Episode 31 of the podcast, where we discussed Cutchin v. Stephen Robertson, Commissioner of the Indiana Department of Insurance, Administrator of the Indiana Patient's Compensation Fund is here:
https://anchor.fm/dan-cotter/episodes/Episode-31---Such-a-fundamental-instruction-e11cvoq
The appellate court decision is here:
https://public.courts.in.gov/Decisions/api/Document/Opinion?Id=MamDjy-_WWueTbcMjMgGH5ZAYzdp6CMdRWbclcvFZTwUNM60nBj-SWGIKM8PgY5L0
The oral argument in Rotert can be found here:
https://mycourts.in.gov/arguments/default.aspx?&id=2559&view=detail&yr=&when=&page=1&court=&search=&direction=%20ASC&future=False&sort=&judge=&county=&admin=False&pageSize=20
The oral argument in Renner can be found here:
https://mycourts.in.gov/arguments/default.aspx?&id=2555&view=detail&yr=&when=&page=1&court=&search=&direction=%20ASC&future=False&sort=&judge=&county=&admin=False&pageSize=20
Pat’s post on Renner is here:
https://www.linkedin.com/posts/donald-patrick-eckler-69880814_concussion-activity-6807978340247474177-EB4_
The ISBA Bar and Bench on emails with courtesy copies can be found here:
https://www.isba.org/sections/bench/newsletter/2021/05/ethicalpracticesintheemailagecourte
49:43
June 11, 2021

Episode 34 - Sounds to me like merits
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Predictions Sure To Go Wrong: Boim: Reverse Gaetjens: Affirm Denman: Punt
Oral argument in Boim can be found here:
http://media.ca7.uscourts.gov/sound/external/ds.20-3233.20-3233_05_27_2021.mp3
Pat’s LI post on Boim can be found here:
https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:6806890633228288000/?updateEntityUrn=urn%3Ali%3Afs_feedUpdate%3A%28V2%2Curn%3Ali%3Aactivity%3A6806890633228288000%29
The oral argument for Gaetjens can be found here:
http://media.ca7.uscourts.gov/sound/external/ds.20-1295.20-1295_05_27_2021.mp3
Caniglia can be found here:
https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/20pdf/20-157_8mjp.pdf
The Denman argument can be found here:
http://mycourts.in.gov/arguments/default.aspx?&id=2553&view=detail&yr=&when=&page=1&court=app&search=&direction=%20ASC&future=False&sort=&judge=&county=&admin=False&pageSize=20
The 7th Circuit order is here:
http://www.ca7.uscourts.gov/general-orders/COVID-19_through2021Aug31_6-3-2021.pdf
49:17
June 06, 2021

Episode 33 - It's in your brief
A solo episode with Pat discussing some outtakes from the 7th Circuit and Illinois Appellate Court, First District on things not to do at the podium as the panel may not be a fan.
The oral argument in Cortez v. Cook Incorporated is here:
http://media.ca7.uscourts.gov/sound/external/ds.20-3434.20-3434_05_26_2021.mp3
The oral argument in Ronald Schmucker v. Johnson Controls, Incorporated is here:
p://media.ca7.uscourts.gov/sound/external/ds.20-3432.20-3432_05_26_2021.mp3
The oral argument in Rivera v. Allstate is here:
http://multimedia.illinois.gov/court/AppellateCourt/Audio/2021/1st/051921_1-20-0735.mp3
Pat's post on the proposed change to the Illinois Appellate Court districts is here:
https://www.linkedin.com/posts/donald-patrick-eckler-69880814_illinois-appellate-court-maps-activity-6803728848119709696-dpp1
Public 102-006, the prejudgment interest statute, is here:
https://www.ilga.gov/legislation/publicacts/fulltext.asp?Name=102-0006
17:00
May 30, 2021

Episode 32- Bopping back and forth
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Predictions Sure To Go Wrong: Torrijos: With regard to IPC: Affirm, With regarding to Cano: Affirm, Rivera: Affirm
The oral argument is here:
http://multimedia.illinois.gov/court/AppellateCourt/Audio/2021/2nd/051921_2-19-1150.mp3
Pat’s post on Torrijos is here:
https://www.linkedin.com/posts/donald-patrick-eckler-69880814_respondent-in-discovery-allows-plaintiff-activity-6802541963372498945-MCBH/
Illinois' respondent in discovery statute is here:
https://www.ilga.gov/legislation/ilcs/fulltext.asp?DocName=073500050K2-402
The oral argument in Rivera v. Allstate is here:
http://multimedia.illinois.gov/court/AppellateCourt/Audio/2021/1st/051921_1-20-0735.mp3
The 7th Circuit opinion in Rivera is here:
http://media.ca7.uscourts.gov/cgi-bin/rssExec.pl?Submit=Display&Path=Y2019/D01-14/C:17-1310:J:Sykes:aut:T:aOp:N:2278392:S:0
01:02:26
May 27, 2021

Episode 31 - Such a fundamental instruction
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Predictions Sure To Go Wrong: Sproull: reversed McQueen: affirm Cutchin:
Plaintiff wins The oral argument before the Illinois Supreme Court in Sproull is here:
http://multimedia.illinois.gov/court/SupremeCourt/Audio/2021/051921_1
The definition of actual cash value under the Illinois Administrative Code is here:
https://www.ilga.gov/commission/jcar/admincode/050/0500091900008
Laura M. Gregory, Esq., CPCU's post is here:
https://www.linkedin.com/posts/laura-gregory_sc-allows-depreciation-of-labor-in-calculating-activity-6800746131560120320-MWaR
Illinois Casualty’s ACV provision in Illinois:
https://www.ilcasco.com/assets/images/uploads/pdfs/ICAP_-_Actual_Cash_Value.pdf
The oral argument in McQueen is here:
https://multimedia.illinois.gov/court/SupremeCourt/Audio/2021/051921_126666.mp3
Oral argument in Cutchin is here:
http://mycourts.in.gov/arguments/default.aspx?&id=2554&view=detail&yr=&when=&page=1&court=SUP&search=&direction=%20ASC&future=True&sort=&judge=&county=&admin=False&pageSize=20
55:42
May 23, 2021

Episode 30 - Res Ipsa and other Latin words
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52:17
May 16, 2021

Episode 29 - Cuatro Por Mayo
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Predictions Sure to Go Wrong: Carter Page: Affirm Continental Western: affirm PennEast: reversed Sun-Times: reversed Oral argument in Carter Page can be found here:
http://media.ca7.uscourts.gov/sound/external/ds.20-2781.20-2781_04_21_2021.mp3
Pat’s post on the oral argument in Carter Page is here:
https://www.linkedin.com/posts/donald-patrick-eckler-69880814_civilprocedure-lawfirm-law-activity-6792756599959171072-8my5/
The link to the oral argument in Continental v. Country is here:
http://media.ca7.uscourts.gov/sound/external/ds.20-2962.20-2962_04_21_2021.mp3
Pat’s post on the oral argument in Continental is here:
https://www.linkedin.com/posts/donald-patrick-eckler-69880814_attorneys-lawyers-insurers-activity-6793121023089790976-3-UF/
The oral argument in Penneast is here:
The oral argument before SCOTUS is here:
https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_argument/audio/2020/19-1039
The oral argument in the Sun-Times case can found here:
https://multimedia.illinois.gov/court/AppellateCourt/Audio/2021/1st/050621_1-19-2028.mp3
The FOIA statute is here:
https://www.ilga.gov/legislation/ilcs/ilcs3.asp?ActID=85&ChapterID=2
Pat’s post on the oral argument in the Sun-Times case is here:
https://www.linkedin.com/posts/donald-patrick-eckler-69880814_foia-activity-6796384863726428160-a5TQ/
55:14
May 09, 2021

Episode 28 - We will agree to disagree
Follow Dan on LinkedIn at linkedin.com/in/cotterdan Follow Pat on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/donald-patrick-eckler-69880814/ Follow the show at: https://www.linkedin.com/company/podium-and-panel-podcast Predictions Sure To Go Wrong: Bycor: Affirm Blackford" Affirm Reece: Affirm Oral arguments in Brycor v. Alexander can be found here: http://content.ilight.net/supremecourt/04222021_1100am.mp3 Oral arguments in Teresa Blackford v. Welborn Clinic can be found here: https://mycourts.in.gov/arguments/default.aspx?&id=2545&view=detail&yr=&when=&page=1&court=sup&search=&direction=%20ASC&future=False&sort=&judge=&county=&admin=False&pageSize=20 The Indiana Business Trust Act is here: https://law.justia.com/codes/indiana/2011/title23/article5/chapter1/ Oral arguments in Reece v. Tyson can be found here: https://mycourts.in.gov/arguments/default.aspx?&id=2547&view=detail&yr=&when=&page=1&court=sup&search=&direction=%20ASC&future=False&sort=&judge=&county=&admin=False&pageSize=20 Past’s post on the appellate court decision in Reece can be found here: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/donald-patrick-eckler-69880814_reece-v-tyson-activity-6709015892451217408-PvEX/ Pat’s LinkedIn post with the decision in Midwest can be found here: https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:6793848886453710848/?updateEntityUrn=urn%3Ali%3Afs_feedUpdate%3A%28V2%2Curn%3Ali%3Aactivity%3A6793848886453710848%29 The Phil Luckett coin toss is here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zki61ZmKf4U My column on the Restatement of Liability Insurance is here: https://www.pretzel-stouffer.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/When-Reasonable-is-Unreasonable.pdf
52:26
May 02, 2021

Episode 27 - Mixing Apples and Oranges
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Predictions Sure To Go Wrong: B.L.: Allen: Khoury:
oral argument for Mahanoy Area School Dist. v. B. L. can be found here:
https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/audio/2020/20-255
Allen v. Sarah Bush Lincoln oral argument can be found here:
http://multimedia.illinois.gov/court/AppellateCourt/Audio/2021/4th/042121_4-20-0360.mp3
Pat Eckler’s post on the argument can be found here:
https://www.linkedin.com/posts/donald-patrick-eckler-69880814_medicalmalpractice-attorney-lawyers-activity-6792394666538004480-PIJl
Oral argument in Khoury v. Niew, Illinois Appellate Court, Second District can be found here:
http://multimedia.illinois.gov/court/AppellateCourt/Audio/2021/2nd/042221_2-20-0388.mp3
Pat’s post on the argument can be found here:
https://www.linkedin.com/posts/donald-patrick-eckler-69880814_lawyer-lawyers-attorneys-activity-6791309079953371136-XFfV
54:01
May 01, 2021

Episode 26 - Strictly Exacting Scrutiny or Something
In this special episode we discuss the argument in Americans For Prosperity v. Bonta that was argued today, April 26, 2021. We are joined by John Bursch of the Alliance Defending Freedom and Louie Castoria of Kaufman Dolowich who represent the Thomas More Law Center, the petitioner in the consolidated case. The link to the oral argument is here: https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/audio/2020/19-251 We discussed the case on Episode 3 with Louie. Predictions Sure to Go Wrong: Reverse
37:15
April 26, 2021

Episode 25 - The Hole in the Pole
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Predictions Sure to Go Wrong: Oral Surgeons: Affirm Covarrubias: Affirm Meeks: Affirm
The argument in Oral Surgeons v. Cincinnati Insurance Company is here: http://media-oa.ca8.uscourts.gov/OAaudio/2021/4/203211.mp3
The argument in Covarrubias v. City of Chicago is here: http://multimedia.illinois.gov/court/AppellateCourt/Audio/2021/1st/041421_1-19-1639.mp3
The argument in Meeks v. Dissanayake is here: http://multimedia.illinois.gov/court/AppellateCourt/Audio/2021/1st/041421_1-19-1420.mp3
46:32
April 25, 2021

Episode 24 - Lawyer Piñata
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Predictions Sure To Go Wrong: Crowe: Affirm, Camelot: Affirm, Everyman: Affirm The argument in Crowe is here: http://multimedia.illinois.gov/court/AppellateCourt/Audio/2021/2nd/041521_2-20-0316.mp3
The argument in Camelot is here: http://multimedia.illinois.gov/court/AppellateCourt/Audio/2021/2nd/041521_2-20-0208.mp3
The argument in Eversman is here: http://multimedia.illinois.gov/court/AppellateCourt/Audio/2021/2nd/041521_2-20-0502.mp3
38:48
April 23, 2021

Episode 23 - Issues with flip-flopping
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49:11
April 18, 2021

Episode 22 - : Boolean search connectors or You May have your favorite initialisms
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Predictions Sure to Go Wrong:
The oral argument before the Seventh Circuit in Appellant v. Appellee is here:
http://media.ca7.uscourts.gov/sound/external/ds.20-3050.20-3050_03_31_2021.mp3
The oral argument in Continental Casualty v. Lloyd's is here:
http://media.ca7.uscourts.gov/sound/external/ds.20-2892.20-2892_04_02_2021.mp3
The oral argument in Bilek v. Federal Insurance is here:
http://media.ca7.uscourts.gov/sound/external/ds.20-2504.20-2504_04_02_2021.mp3
Federal Rules of Appellate Procedure Rule 28j can found here:
https://www.law.cornell.edu/rules/frap/rule_28
Pat's article on ediscvoery wioth Howard Pikel is here:
https://www.pretzel-stouffer.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/Late-to-the-Party.pdf
50:21
April 11, 2021

Episode 21 - Who is a prisoner?
In this episode, Episode 21, Dan and I are speaking with Kevin O’Connor of the O’Connor Law Firm where his practice centers on representing individuals and their families in complex personal injury, wrongful death, survival, 1983 civil rights violations – specifically police brutality and misconduct – and medical malpractice actions.
The link to the oral argument is here:
http://multimedia.illinois.gov/court/AppellateCourt/Audio/2021/1st/033021_1-20-0223.mp3
34:21
April 05, 2021

Episode 20 - I don’t want to get all Learned Hand on you
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Predictions Sure to Go Wrong: Alexandria: reverse TransUnion: affirm, but narrowly or DIG NCAA: reverse of some kind
Rule(s) of the Week: Rules 301 and 303
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The oral argument before the Seventh Circuit in Alexandria is here: http://media.ca7.uscourts.gov/sound/2020/cm.19-2414.19-2414_05_19_2020.mp3
The oral argument before the Illinois Supreme Court in Alexandria is here: http://multimedia.illinois.gov/court/SupremeCourt/Video/2021/031621_126249.mp4
Pat's post on the Seventh Circuit decision in Alexandria is here: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/donald-patrick-eckler-69880814_roberts-v-alexandria-transportation-activity-6698865707884560385-er7Q
The Joint Tortfeasor Contribution Act is here: https://www.ilga.gov/legislation/ilcs/ilcs3.asp?ActID=2041&ChapterID=57
The argument in TransUnion can be found here:
https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/audio/2020/20-297
The argument in NCAA can be found here:
https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/audio/2020/20-512
Supreme Court Rule 301 can be found here:
http://illinoiscourts.gov/SupremeCourt/Rules/Art_III/ArtIII.htm#301
Supreme Court Rule 303 can be found here:
http://illinoiscourts.gov/SupremeCourt/Rules/Art_III/ArtIII.htm#303
54:03
April 04, 2021

Episode 19 - We Took the Fifth
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Predictions Sure to Go Wrong: Midwest: Reverse Hayes: Affirm Mccannelly:
Affirm Rule of the Week: Illinois Supreme Court Rule 341(h)(7).
The Rule is linked here:
https://casetext.com/rule/illinois-court-rules/illinois-supreme-court-rules/article-iii-civil-appeals-rules/part-d-briefs/rule-341-briefs
The Tri-G decision is here:
https://law.justia.com/cases/illinois/supreme-court/2006/99584.html
The applicable statute, 735 ILCS 5/2-1115, is here:
https://www.ilga.gov/legislation/ilcs/fulltext.asp?DocName=073500050K2-1115#:~:text=In%20all%20cases%2C%20whether%20in,(Source%3A%20P.A.
The oral argument in Midwest Sanitary is here:
http://multimedia.illinois.gov/court/AppellateCourt/Audio/2021/5th/032521_5-19-0360.mp3
The oral agrument in Hayes is here:
https://multimedia.illinois.gov/court/AppellateCourt/Audio/2021/5th/032521_5-20-0250.mp3
The Evans v. Patel decision is here:
https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=15391401260152853223&hl=en&as_sdt=6&as_vis=1&oi=scholarr
The Interstate Medical Licensure Act referenced in the arguments is here:
https://www.ilga.gov/legislation/ilcs/ilcs3.asp?ActID=3635&ChapterID=10
Pat's post on the Mccannelly case is here:
https://www.linkedin.com/posts/donald-patrick-eckler-69880814_employee-employer-lawyer-activity-6780437489388720128-NADO
The oral argument in Mccannelly is here:
http://multimedia.illinois.gov/court/AppellateCourt/Audio/2021/5th/032321_5-20-0226.mp3
Decision in Ghostanyans v. Goodwin
http://www.illinoiscourts.gov/Opinions/AppellateCourt/2021/1stDistrict/1192125.pdf
Decision in Gladstone v. West Bend is here:
https://public.courts.in.gov/Decisions/api/Document/Opinion?Id=QC6zRHrx7ZJ_NSCkL4nALD78ayPF0rxWdZJ7UxMChkgeH20CzWKuBDKsRJdH7AFp0
Decision in Mims v. Paintstil is here:
http://www.illinoiscourts.gov/Opinions/AppellateCourt/2021/1stDistrict/1191285.pdf
50:04
March 28, 2021

Episode 18 - "Do you think everything is a Penn Central question?”
On Episode 18 of the Podium and Panel Podcast and Dan and I are joined by Wen Fa of the Pacific Legal Foundation to discuss Cedar Point v. Hassid argued this week before the Supreme Court of the United States by one of his colleagues.
The link to the Federalist Society teleforum is here:
https://fedsoc.org/events/courthouse-steps-oral-argument-cedar-point-nursery-v-hassid
The oral argument before SCOTUS is here:
https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/audio/2020/20-107
38:09
March 25, 2021

Episode 17: What Isn’t Possible, your Honor?
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Predictions Sure to Go Wrong: NCAA: Dan: reverse, Pat: affirm Kallal: affirm
Rule of the Week: Prejudgment interest act continued
The oral argument before the Indiana Supreme Court in NCAA is here: https://mycourts.in.gov/arguments/default.aspx?&id=2533&view=detail&yr=&when=&page=1&court=sup&search=&direction=%20ASC&future=False&sort=&judge=&county=&admin=False&pageSize=20
The oral argument before the Indiana Appellate Court is here: https://mycourts.in.gov/arguments/default.aspx?&id=2465&view=detail&yr=&when=&page=1&court=&search=ncaa&direction=%20ASC&future=True&sort=&judge=&county=&admin=False&pageSize=20
The appellate court decision in G&G is here: https://public.courts.in.gov/Decisions/api/Document/Opinion?Id=ZXZg_KJ1jmdGHJ12PnAEUdE7MOnlsD_FSoU1fMnBXONw1NtnXbtVnDDrSuwoYzjS0
The oral argument in Kallal v. Lyons is here: http://multimedia.illinois.gov/court/AppellateCourt/Audio/2021/4th/031721_4-20-0319.mp3
The decision in Katz is here: https://courts.illinois.gov/Opinions/AppellateCourt/2021/1stDistrict/1200331.pdf
The decision in G&G is here: https://public.courts.in.gov/Decisions/api/Document/Opinion?Id=k7sliNWk8MnoIph8Sl6gPBV4rh-bwR7KZ9Lz1UtHL_M81LwnV5Q1cQfhApnjchNZ0
The decision in Ciolino is here: http://www.illinoiscourts.gov/Opinions/SupremeCourt/2021/126024.pdf
The decision in Zuniga v. MLB is here: http://www.illinoiscourts.gov/Opinions/AppellateCourt/2021/1stDistrict/1201264.pdf
The decision in Main v. ADM is here: http://www.illinoiscourts.gov/R23_Orders/AppellateCourt/2021/4thDistrict/4200313_R23.pdf
The opinion in Bennett v. AFSCME is here: http://media.ca7.uscourts.gov/cgi-bin/rssExec.pl?Submit=Display&Path=Y2021/D03-12/C:20-1621:J:Flaum:aut:T:fnOp:N:2673910:S:0
HB3360 is here: https://www.ilga.gov/legislation/BillStatus.asp?DocNum=3360&GAID=15&DocTypeID=HB&LegId=119866&SessionID=108&GA=101 SB72 is here: https://www.ilga.gov/legislation/BillStatus.asp?DocNum=72&GAID=16&DocTypeID=SB&LegId=128357&SessionID=110&GA=102
55:12
March 21, 2021

Episode 16 - An absolute immunity for doctors?
Continuing with our episodes discussing cases with the advocates who argue them, special guests Ed Grasse and Christopher Willis of Grasse Legal join the show. They represent the plaintiffs in Thomas v. Khoury that was argued before the Illinois Supreme Court last week. Dan and Pat talked about the case on Episode 15.
The link to the oral argument is here:
http://multimedia.illinois.gov/court/SupremeCourt/Audio/2021/031121_126074.mp3
Pat's post on the appellate court decision is here:
https://www.linkedin.com/posts/donald-patrick-eckler-69880814_thomas-v-khoury-activity-6651031676166172673-BzTl
The applicable statute is here:
https://ilga.gov/LEGISLATION/ILCS/ilcs3.asp?ActID=2059&ChapterID=57
35:04
March 18, 2021

Episode 15 - The Ying and Yang of Damages
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Rules of the Week 735 ILCS 5/2-615 and 736 ILCS 5/2-619
Predictions Sure to Go Wrong: Khoury: affirmed, Guyon: affirmed, Gladstone: affirmed
Oral argument in Khoury is here: https://multimedia.illinois.gov/court/SupremeCourt/Audio/2021/031121_126074.mp3
Oral argument in Guyon is here: http://multimedia.illinois.gov/court/AppellateCourt/Audio/2021/3rd/022421_3-20-0141.mp3
Photo of the scene can be found here: https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:6776106203014606848?commentUrn=urn%3Ali%3Acomment%3A%28activity%3A6776106203014606848%2C6776106517159579648%29
The Wikipedia page on Palsgraf v. Long Island Railroad Co. is here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palsgraf_v._Long_Island_Railroad_Co.
The oral argument in Gladstone is here https://mycourts.in.gov/arguments/default.aspx?&id=2531&view=detail&yr=&when=&page=1&court=app&search=&direction=%20ASC&future=False&sort=&judge=&county=&admin=False&pageSize=20 Pat’s LinkedIn post on Gladstone is here: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/donald-patrick-eckler-69880814_claims-insurance-insured-activity-6775382551952441344-VbXe
55:19
March 14, 2021

Episode 14 - Will the defense go 3 for 3?
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Predictions Sure to Go Wrong: Carter: Affirm; Mims: affirm; Arkebauer: affirm
The decision in Sampson is here: https://courts.illinois.gov/R23_Orders/AppellateCourt/2021/3rdDistrict/3200163_R23.pdf
The oral argument in Carter is here: http://multimedia.illinois.gov/court/AppellateCourt/Audio/2021/3rd/022221_3-19-0594.mp3
The oral argument in Mims v. Paintsil is here: http://multimedia.illinois.gov/court/AppellateCourt/Audio/2021/1st/022321_1-19-1285.mp3
The oral argument in Arkebauer v. Springfield Clinic is here: http://multimedia.illinois.gov/court/AppellateCourt/Audio/2021/4th/022421_4-19-0697.mp3
The "rule" of the week is on the United States Courts page on granting cert: https://www.uscourts.gov/about-federal-courts/educational-resources/about-educational-outreach/activity-resources/supreme-1
Pat’s article with Paula Villela on sole proximate cause is here: https://www.pretzel-stouffer.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/28.4.8.pdf
Pat’s columns with Dave Levitt are here: https://www.pretzel-stouffer.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/20-4-29-CDLB-Column-Fault-Apportionment-Part-I.pdf https://www.pretzel-stouffer.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/20-5-6-CDLB-Column-Failt-Apportionment-Part-II.pdf
Pat’s column on special interrogatories with Adam Carter is here: https://www.pretzel-stouffer.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/20-4-22-CDLB-Column-Gap-in-Special-Interrogatories.pdf
54:24
March 07, 2021

Episode 13 - Unqualified immunity?
On Episode 13 of the Podium and Panel podcast with a special guest Jarrod Beasley of the Kuehn Beasley and Young where he devotes his time to a diverse practice including civil litigation, specifically personal injury and products liability, corporate law and appellate work.
We are here to talk about Estate of Van Dyke v. Milner a case he recently argued before the Illinois Appellate Court, Fifth District that we discussed on Episode 12.
39:41
March 03, 2021

Episode 12 - Folding like a cheap suit
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The link to the argument in Estate of Van Dyke v. Milner is here: http://multimedia.illinois.gov/court/AppellateCourt/Audio/2021/5th/021821_5-19-0532.mp3
The Domestic Violence Act is here: https://www.ilga.gov/legislation/ilcs/ilcs5.asp?ActID=2100&ChapterID=59 The link to the argument in Cortez v. IU is here: https://mycourts.in.gov/arguments/default.aspx?&id=2532&view=detail&yr=&when=&page=1&court=sup&search=&direction=%20ASC&future=False&sort=&judge=&county=&admin=False&pageSize=20
The link to the argument in Audrey Wadsworth v. Kross, Lieberman & Stone, Inc. is here: http://media.ca7.uscourts.gov/sound/external/ds.19-1400.19-1400_02_17_2021.mp3
FDCPA can be found here: https://www.ftc.gov/enforcement/rules/rulemaking-regulatory-reform-proceedings/fair-debt-collection-practices-act-text
Pat's post on Estate of Van Dyke v. Milner is here: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/donald-patrick-eckler-69880814_civilprocedure-claims-insurance-activity-6769582212154228736-2Lcm
Pat’s post on LI about Community Health Network v. McKenzie: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/donald-patrick-eckler-69880814_hipaa-claims-hospital-activity-6755810838164111360-SP-q/
Clearview BIPA challenge: https://www.natlawreview.com/article/breaking-news-clearview-ai-plans-to-take-its-bipa-challenge-over-standing-to-supreme
Rule of the Week: Indiana Rule of Appellate Procedure 57 https://casetext.com/rule/indiana-court-rules/indiana-rules-of-appellate-procedure/rules/rule-57-petitions-to-transfer-and-briefs#:~:text=Rule%2057%20%2D%20Petitions%20to%20Transfer%20and%20Briefs%20(A)%20Applicability,Which%20Transfer%20May%20be%20Sought
49:10
February 28, 2021

Episode 11 - Hotel California Union?
In this special episode Dan and Pat interview Jeffrey Schwab who recently argued Bennett v. AFSCME before the 7th Circuit. Jeff is a senior attorney with the Liberty Justice Center. He litigates cases to protect the rights to free speech, economic liberty, private property and other constitutional rights in both federal and state courts in Illinois.
The link to the oral argument is here: http://media.ca7.uscourts.gov/sound/external/ds.20-1621.20-1621_02_17_2021.mp3
34:05
February 26, 2021

Episode 10 - Judges (and justices) are people too?
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Article about Posner: https://www.abajournal.com/news/article/posner_cites_in-chambers_donning_and_doffing_experiment_dissenter_is_startl
Katz v. Hartz oral argument: http://multimedia.illinois.gov/court/AppellateCourt/Audio/2021/1st/020421_1-20-0331.mp3
Zuniga v. Major League Baseball oral argument: https://multimedia.illinois.gov/court/AppellateCourt/Audio/2021/1st/021621_1-20-1264.mp3 Cubs and MLB terms and conditions: https://www.mlb.com/cubs/tickets/terms-and-conditions
Zuniga complaint filed: https://www.cliffordlaw.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/Laiah_Zuniga_v_Major_League_Baseball.pdf
American Bankers Insurance Co v. Robert Shockley oral argument is here: http://media.ca7.uscourts.gov/sound/external/ds.20-1938.20-1938_02_10_2021.mp3
Predictions Sure to Go Wrong: Katz v. Hartz - reversal Zuniga v. MLB - affirmed American Bankers v. Shockley - reversal
Rule of the week Rule 315
https://casetext.com/rule/illinois-court-rules/illinois-supreme-court-rules/article-iii-civil-appeals-rules/part-b-appeals-from-the-appellate-court-to-the-supreme-court/rule-315-leave-to-appeal-from-the-appellate-court-to-the-supreme-court
Pat’s article on Mitsias v. I-Flow is here: https://www.pretzel-stouffer.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/What-You-Do-Not-Know-Can-Still-Hurt-You.pdf T
he Slate article on the SCOTUS' "shadow docket" is here: https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2021/02/supreme-court-shadow-docket-house-hearing.html
53:24
February 21, 2021

Episode 9 - Does this policy cover anything?
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Predictions Sure to Go Wrong - Demkovich - Dan and Pat say the 7th Circuit will answer a different question than the one posed and find a more narrow exception than the one sought by the Church - Evanston - Dan and Pat say affirm - Ghostanyans - Dan and Pat say affirm
Rule of the Week: FRCP Rule 23
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Demkovich v. St. Andrew oral argument: http://media.ca7.uscourts.gov/sound/external/ds.19-2142.19-2142_02_09_2021.mp3
Evanston v. MHM oral arguments: https://multimedia.illinois.gov/court/AppellateCourt/Audio/2021/1st/020921_1-20-0552.mp3
Ghostanyans v. Goodwin oral arguments: https://multimedia.illinois.gov/court/AppellateCourt/Audio/2021/1st/020421_1-19-2125.mp3 FRCP 23: https://www.law.cornell.edu/rules/frcp/rule_23
50:03
February 14, 2021

Episode 8 - The Jalopy of Justice
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Rule of the Week: Certified Questions to state high courts
https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/audio/2018/17-1091 Timbs opinion before SCOTUS https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/18pdf/17-1091_5536.pdf Indiana Supreme Court decision – 2019 https://public.courts.in.gov/Decisions/api/Document/Opinion?Id=RFHX75lxKFDURPQJtu3TKxfYFRzQMPUtKXtqePwknTu-uX7kxB_VW2XvhIvb8rMS0 Trial Court Ruling – 2020 https://ij.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/Findings-of-Fact-Conclusions-an.pdf IJ press release following win in trial court: https://ij.org/press-release/14-months-after-u-s-supreme-court-victory-tyson-timbs-wins-civil-forfeiture-case/ Timbs argument from last week : https://mycourts.in.gov/arguments/default.aspx?&id=2528&view=detail&yr=&when=&page=1&court=sup&search=&direction=%20ASC&future=False&sort=&judge=&county=&admin=False&pageSize=20 SDC Oral Arguments: https://multimedia.illinois.gov/court/AppellateCourt/Audio/2021/1st/012621_1-19-1989.mp3 Main v. ADM: https://multimedia.illinois.gov/court/AppellateCourt/Audio/2021/4th/012721_4-20-0313.mp3 Cutchin v. Robertson: file:///C:/Users/cotter/Downloads/Cutchin%20v.%20Robertson.pdf Circuit Rule 52: http://www.ca7.uscourts.gov/rules-procedures/rules/rules.htm#cr52
44:57
February 07, 2021

Episode 7 - A Reverse Bernie Madoff
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Rule of the Week: Dismissed as Improvidently Granted, not really a rule, but here is the link to the opinion in Schein, Inc. v. Archer and White Sales, Inc.: https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/20pdf/19-963_2c8f.pdf
Predictions sure to go wrong: BP - Dan and Pat pick reversal Indeck - some type of clarification of usurpation for corporation opportunity and remand Walworth - reversal Roberts - reversal in some form https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/20pdf/19-963_2c8f.pdf
The link to the argument in BP v. Baltimore is here: https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/audio/2020/19-1189
The link to the oral argument in Walworth Investments-LG, LLC v. MU Sigma, Inc. before the Illinois Appellate Court, First District is here: http://multimedia.illinois.gov/court/AppellateCourt/Audio/2021/1st/012621_1-19-1937.mp3
The link to the argument in Indeck Energy Services, Inc. v. DePodesta before the Illinois Supreme Court is here: http://multimedia.illinois.gov/court/SupremeCourt/Video/2021/011321_125733.mp4
The link to the argument in Roberts v. Zimmerman before the Illinois Appellate Court, Second District is here: http://multimedia.illinois.gov/court/AppellateCourt/Audio/2021/2nd/012521_2-19-1088.mp3
The 11th circuit decision in Mama Joe’s can be found here: https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/appellate-courts/ca11/18-12887/18-12887-2020-08-18.html
50:40
January 31, 2021

Episode 6 - Nominal Damages, Textualism, and Parol Evidence
In Episode 6, we will discuss two oral arguments before the Supreme Court of the United States, Uzuegbunam v. Preczewski and AMG Capital Management, LLC v. FTC, and one before the Seventh Circuit, Platinum Supplemental Insurance v. Guarantee Trust Life Insurance.
Uzuegbunam deals with our old friend standing and whether nominal damages are sufficient to support Article III standing for a constitutional violation.
AMG Capital Management, LLC is an important case for the textual means of statutory interpretation and deals with whether the Federal Trade Commission can seek restitution in federal court.
Platinum Supplemental concerns means of contract interpretation and what sources can be used to interpret a term that is unambiguous.
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Predictions sure to go wrong:
Dan and Pat – Uzuegbunam wins, Bradford loses
Dan and Pat punt on AMG and Platinum
Rule of the Week: Illinois Supreme Court Rule 304(a), FRCP Rule 54(b), and Indiana Trial Rule 56(c)
The oral argument in Uzuegbunam v. Preczewski is here:
https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/audio/2020/19-968
The oral argument in AMG Capital Management, LLC v. FTC is here:
https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/audio/2020/19-508
Platinum Supplemental Insurance v. Guarantee Trust Life Insurance
http://media.ca7.uscourts.gov/sound/external/ds.20-1906.20-1906_01_13_2021.mp3
39:56
January 24, 2021

Episode 5 - The Third Trip to the Illinois Supreme Court
In this special episode we interview David Shapiro who argued for the petitioner in Beaman v. Freemeyer last before the Illinois Supreme Court.
We discussed the oral argument in this case in Episode 4 of the podcast.
David is the Director of the Supreme Court and Appellate Program of the Roderick and Solange MacArthur Justice Center, a group of eight appellate attorneys in Chicago and Washington D.C. dedicated to strategic representation in high-stakes civil rights appeals throughout the nation.
32:51
January 20, 2021

Episode 4 - Two Wrongful Convictions and a Procedural Morass
In this episode we discuss three recent oral arguments regarding civil matters before the Illinois Supreme Court: Beaman v. Freemeyer, Ciolino v. Simon, and Eighner v. Tiernan.
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Predictions Sure to Go Wrong: Beaman: affirmed Ciolino: affirmed Eighner: affirmed
Rule of the Week: HB3360 prejudgment interest bill
The link to the oral argument in Beaman v. Freemeyer is here:
http://multimedia.illinois.gov/court/SupremeCourt/Video/2021/011321_125617.mp4
The Illinois Supreme Court decision vacating Beaman’s criminal conviction is here:
https://www.courtlistener.com/opinion/2042532/people-v-beaman/
The first Illinois Supreme Court decision in the Beaman civil case is here:
https://law.justia.com/cases/illinois/supreme-court/2019/122654.html
The 2019 Fourth District opinion appealed from in Beaman v. Freemeyer is here:
https://courts.illinois.gov/Opinions/AppellateCourt/2019/4thDistrict/4160527.pdf
The 2015 Seventh Circuit decision in Beaman v. Freemeyer is here:
https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/appellate-courts/ca7/14-1195/14-1195-2015-01-13.html
The link to the oral argument in Ciolino v. Simon is here:
http://multimedia.illinois.gov/court/SupremeCourt/Video/2021/011421_126024.mp4
The statute of limitations for defamation in Illinois, 735 ILCS 5/13-201, is here:
https://www.ilga.gov/legislation/ilcs/documents/073500050K13-201.htm#:~:text=Sec.,the%20cause%20of%20action%20accrued
The link to the Murder in the Park documentary is here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAB1_W0hDZY
The oral argument is in Eighner v. Tiernan is here:
http://multimedia.illinois.gov/court/SupremeCourt/Video/2021/011421_126101.mp4
The appellate court opinion in Eighner v. Tiernan is here:
https://courts.illinois.gov/Opinions/AppellateCourt/2020/1stDistrict/1191369.pdf
735 ILCS 5/2-1009 is here:
https://ilga.gov/legislation/ilcs/documents/073500050K2-1009.htm
735 ILCS 5/13-217 is here:
https://www.ilga.gov/legislation/ilcs/fulltext.asp?DocName=073500050K13-217
48:16
January 17, 2021

Episode 3 - Free Speech, Anonymity, and SCOTUS
In this special episode we interview Louie Castoria who represented the Thomas More Law Center against the California AG regarding disclosure of donor lists. A petition for writ of certiorari was granted last week and we thank Louie for his time.
This is an important free speech case building on the precedent set forth in NAACP v. Alabama.
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The link to NAACP v. Alabama, 357 U.S. 449 (1958) is here:
https://www.oyez.org/cases/1957/91
The Scotusblog page for the case we discussed in this episode, Thomas More Law Center v. Becerra is here:
https://www.scotusblog.com/case-files/cases/thomas-more-law-center-v-becerra/
29:59
January 12, 2021

Episode 2 - BIPA, Standing, and Ambiguity
In this episode Dan and Pat discuss a BIPA regarding standing and removal, Thornley v. Clearview, before the 7th Circuit and a cyber insurance case before the Indiana Supreme Court, G&G Oil Company of Indiana v. Continental Western Insurance Company.
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Predictions Sure to Go Wrong:
Dan - Thornley remanded to state court and G&G Affirmed
Pat - Thornley remanded to state court and G&G Affirmed
Rule of the Week: Illinois Supreme Court Rule 352:
https://courts.illinois.gov/SupremeCourt/Announce/2018/052518-4.pdf
Thornley v. Clearview oral argument is here:
http://media.ca7.uscourts.gov/sound/external/ds.20-3249.20-3249_01_04_2021.mp3
G&G Oil Company of Indiana v. Continental Western Insurance Company oral argument is here:
https://mycourts.in.gov/arguments/default.aspx?&id=2519&view=detail&yr=&when=&page=1&court=sup&search=&direction=%20ASC&future=False&sort=&judge=&county=&admin=False&pageSize=20
Standard Fire v. Knowles 568 US 588 (2013) is here:
https://www.oyez.org/cases/2012/11-1450
Spokeo, Inc. v. Robins, 136 S. Ct. 1540 (2016) is here:
https://www.oyez.org/cases/2015/13-1339
Clapper v. Amnesty International 568 U.S. 398 (2012) is here:
https://www.oyez.org/cases/2012/11-1025
Thole v. US Bank, 140 S.Ct. 1615 (2020) is here:
https://www.oyez.org/cases/2019/17-1712
Bryant v. Compass Group, USA, Inc.¸2020 U.S. App. LEXIS 14256 is here:
https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/appellate-courts/ca7/20-1443/20-1443-2020-05-05.html
Pat’s column in the Chicago Daily Law Bulletin on standing is here:
https://www.linkedin.com/posts/donald-eckler-69880814_standing-column-activity-6681832631212019712-nQB_
Pat's Article with Calvin Townsend is here:
https://www.pretzel-stouffer.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/Im-Still-Standing.pdf
48:07
January 10, 2021

Episode 1 - No Reasonable Court
In this episode we discuss one oral argument and two opinions all before the Illinois Appellate Court and discuss the recent change to Illinois Supreme Court Rule 23. The issues addressed include the organization of the Illinois courts of review, standards of appellate review, Rule 103(b), the Joint Tortfeasor Contribution Act, and forum non conveniens.
Predictions Sure to Go Wrong (Kramer v. Ruiz): Dan - Reversal Pat - Reversal, but if an affirmance then at least a dissent
Rule of the Week - Illinois Supreme Court Rule 23
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The oral argument in Kramer v. Ruiz is here: http://multimedia.illinois.gov/court/AppellateCourt/Audio/2020/5th/121620_5-20-0026.mp3
The opinion in Harley v. NAPCO is here: https://courts.illinois.gov/Opinions/AppellateCourt/2020/1stDistrict/1192619.pdf
The opinion in Evans v. Patel is here: https://courts.illinois.gov/Opinions/AppellateCourt/2020/1stDistrict/1200528.pdf
42:28
January 03, 2021