The Deconstruction Zone
By The Well
Join in for lots of laughter and processing of big topics and our own stories. Whether you are currently deconstructing and want to feel like you’re not alone or want to understand where deconstructers are coming from, we hope this space will be one where we can all process and embrace the journey.
The Deconstruction ZoneFeb 28, 2024
Ep.86: A Conversation with Colby Martin on Inclusion
Check out our conversation with author, pastor, and speaker Colby Martin! Colby wrote Unclobber and The Shift, two books designed to help individuals better understand the bible, faith, and how to move from closed, to inclusive theology. Listen now and enjoy!
Ep.85: The Progressive Pastor Podcast Crossover
This week Danny is joined by Kyle and J.T. from the new Progressive Pastor Podcast. Today they'll chat about the head, the heart, and their blindspots in deconstruction. Give it a listen now!
Ep.84: Should I Grow Where I'm Planted?
This week Danny explores a listener's question about whether to say where she's in ministry, or go somewhere else? Many of us wrestle with the same things in faith. Whether has a vocation, or follower of Jesus. Regardless of how we get there - it's a good question to explore! Let's all dive in together on this week's episode of the DZ!
Ep.83: Deconstructing Pentecostalism
This week Emily is joined by a friend of the pod, Austin Lucas. Together they unpack his unique upbringing and deconstruction process and its connection to the Pentecostal church.
Ep.82: What's heavier: Good or Evil?
This week Danny and Emily have a quick episode where they dip a toe into the concept of good, evil, and morality. Next week we have a deeper dive into morality - and we want to hear from you! Email Danny at danny@thewell636.org with your thoughts and questions about morality (or any future topic ideas!).
Ep.81: Cry Night at YoungLife Camp
This week on the DZ Emily and Danny explore the complexity of emotion, cults, Christian camp, and religion as a whole.
Ep.80: 2023 DZ Wrapped
Lets take a look back at the year behind us and examine all the good, bad and ugly that came with it!
Ep.79: Are there any unforgivable sins?
This week Emily and Danny explore how far inclusion extends and ask the question, can you lose your seat at the table?
Ep.78: Is Jesus a Narcissist?
Sorry about the sound quality - we have a few issues, but this is a one-week issue. Also, the longer you listen, the better it sounds! Now to the topic: This week Emily raises the question, is Jesus a narcissist? If he's only a man, maybe? If he's also 100% God, Danny doesn't think it's possible. What do you think? Listen and drop your thoughts in the comments now!
Ep.77: Do Our Beliefs Impact Others
As an inclusive pastor, Danny is often told that "the blood of those he leads astray is on his hands." Whether you're a pastor, or not-religious at all - or somewhere in between - we likely all ponder the impact of our beliefs on others. This week Dustin and Danny unpack this and more!
Ep.76: Deconstructing Church Burnout
Have you been burnt out on Jesus & the Church? This week Dustin and Danny explore some of their experiences with that, and other thoughts on organized religion.
Ep.75: Deconstructing Spiritual Warfare
Do you believe in spiritual warfare? Is it real? How do we handle it in our world today?
Ep.74: Emily Zell From The Well is Going to Hell
This week Emily and Danny take an episode to unpack some questions from Instagram! After listening, make sure you take a moment and answer the poll on Spotify and leave us what questions you have and topics you'd like covered in the episodes to come!
Ep. 73: What is Indoctrination?
Let’s chat about indoctrination! What is is? Is it inherently bad? Is everyone kind of doing it? This and more will be unpacked on this weeks episode of The Deconstruction Zone!
Ep.72: Taking on The Woke Mob
Oftentimes those deconstructing Christianity think the “correct” end is progressivism. This week two self-professing progressives deconstruct the negative impacts of both progressive and conservative theology & politics as they relate to one's faith. We don't know much, but we are positive somebody will hate this episode…
Ep.71: Halloween Special
Join us for this special halloween episode of The Deconstruction Zone!
Ep.70: Rebellion vs. Freedom
This week we digest 1am drunk tweets about own deconstruction! Don’t skip this one!
Ep.69: Secrets vs. Boundaries
This week Danny and Emily explore the relationship between secrets and boundaries. Is there a difference? Are they the same? Let’s dig in!
Ep.68: What is Discipleship?
Emily and Danny Join in on the LIVE UMC Communications Podcast-a-thon and chat about the topic of discipleship. Listen and learn more now!
Ep.67: Does God answer prayers?
Danny likely tore his ACL for a second time. A friend asked him why he wasn’t praying that the injury would be healed by God, even if he thought he had torn it. So the question is, did Danny tear his ACL because he didn’t pray for a full recovery? Would God even heal him that way if he prayed for that? Should we pray like that? Or does God look at prayer differently than we do? Let’s discuss today on the Deconstruction Zone!
Ep.66: It can't be BAD if it feels so GOOD
What do you think about the phrase, “I’m allowed to do what’s best for me, even if it upsets people?” This week Danny and Emily process the several dynamics that go into determining good, bad, ugly, or indifferent.
Ep.65: Has Emily Been Kicked Off The Pod?
After a month of being off the Pod Emily makes her return to the Deconstruction Zone. But will her return be long-term or short-lived? Listen to find out!
Ep.64: Finding Peace (Just Hit Record)
In Emily's final week on Podcast Sabbatical, Danny and Producer Dustin try something new. This week we have a crossover episode with Dustin’s personal Podcast called, Just Hit Record (go and find it anywhere you get your podcasts!).
This week's conversation revolves around finding peace. Something we all likely are striving to find!
You can learn more about and listen to Dustin's podcast, Just Hit Record here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/just-hit-record/id1583064264
Ep.63: Why Do Bad Things Happen To Good People?
Have you ever asked yourself why often the worst things imaginable happen to some of the best people you know? Did God allow it? Did God cause it? And above all how do we reconcile evil and brokenness in our world - especially when it impacts the ones we love. This week Danny and producer Dustin do their best to unpack this question and more.
Ep.62: Does God Evolve?
Progressive Christians often say that God's sense of justice, inclusion and love is evolving. More Conservative Christians would likely disagree - stating that God is the same yesterday, today, and forever. This week Danny and Producer Dustin tackle this difficult, nuanced,, and important topic. Listen and don't forget to weigh in with your own thoughts!
Ep.61: Deconstructing Christianese
The Christian shorthand known as Christianese is often more frustrating than it is helpful. This week Danny and Producer Dustin unpack their experience and understanding of common Christian phrases as together they search for a deeper understanding.
Ep.60: Mailbag Special!
Ep.59: The Christian Bubble: A DZ Back to School Special
Time to go back to school! The academic year is upon us and that means all our lives are about to shift from summer mode to academic mode. This week, Danny and Emily will be unpacking the intersection between church, school, and everything else in between.
Ep.58: Shiny Happy Podcast
Have you seen the new(ish) Prime Docuseries, Shiny Happy People? We HAVE! Now it's time to unpack it. Inside we'll chat about Dating, Fundamentialism, Cults and more.fundamentalism
Ep.57: Reconstruction is low key Awkward
Deconstructionawkwardness is a bear. Reconstruction is awkward. How do you navigate the heaviness and awkwarness of stepping back into the rubble of what you just tore apart?
Ep.56: A love letter to our haters
Here is the reality... Emily and Danny understand that this pod isn't for everyone. But a unique phenomenon they’ve experiences, is the well-sized portion of their audience that "hate-listen" to the podcast. That being said, whether you love, hate, or are indifferent while you listen to the pod, this episode is for you.
This week you can expect to hear a lot of nuggets about faith, deconstruction, and how to navigate tense relationships while also setting healthy boundaries in your deconstructing.
Ep.55: Finding support in deconstruction
Deconstruction can be lonely and isolating. Finding support can be difficult. So here's the question: how do you build systems and find support while deconstructing?
Ep. 54: Smashing The Patriarchy & Redefining Gender Roles
This week Danny and Emily unpack the nuance and complexity of gender roles.
Ep.53: Go Shawty... It's Yo Birthday (Part 2)
Happy first birthday to The Deconstruction Zone Podcast! Here is part 2 of our B-Day Episode!
This week's episode was recorded live at Danny's annual church conference for UMC clergy and lay people in Missouri (The Missouri Annual Conference of The United Methodist Church). Danny and Emily took this unique opportunity to interview other UMC pastors to get their thoughts on the deconstruction movement.
Ep.52: Go Shawty... It's Yo Birthday (Part 1)
Happy first birthday to The Deconstruction Zone Podcast! This week's episode was recorded live at Danny's annual church conference for UMC clergy and lay people in Missouri (The Missouri Annual Conference of The United Methodist Church). Danny and Emily took this unique opportunity to interview other UMC pastors to get their thoughts on the deconstruction movement.
Ep.51: Debating Secondary Issues
This week Emily and Danny explore the concept of primary and secondary theological issues.
Ep.50: Bathroom Masterpieces
Each week we get closer and closer to our 1st anniversary! This week Emily takes a much-needed vacation from the pod, while Danny and producer Dustin discuss artwork in the bathroom, Bob Godd, deep theology, and more!
Ep.49: Exploring The Spiritual Wilderness
Have you ever felt like you're stuck in a spiritual wilderness? Is that a good thing? Maybe it's a bad thing? This week, Emily and Danny dive into this topic and more as we continue to explore The Deconstruction Zone.
Ep. 48: Emily's Chakras Are Spinning
This week Danny and Emily discuss Emily's first 9 out of 10 outfit ratings from her students, new age beliefs, and deconstruction. A great time will be had by all.
Ep.47: Was Joseph an a-hole or a hero of faith?
Ep.46: Emily checks out a Unitarian Universalist Church
This week Emily talks about her exploration of other faith traditions in the midst of her own deconstruction of what she knows about the Christian faith.
Ep.45: Jesus doesn't understand Periods
This week we unpack Emily getting called to the principal's office (again), and Emily's return to a PCA wedding, and how Jesus doesn't understand periods.
Ep.44: Original Sin or Original Friendship?
Ep.43: Pickle shots for Jesus
Emily and Danny take a new format for this week's episode of the DZ. Let us know your thoughts!
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Ep.42: The DZ goes live at The University of Mount Union.
This week we have a unique episode of The Deconstruction Zone as Danny & Emily travel to The University of Mount Union for their One Voice Speaker Series. Not only do these two chat about Deconstruction, but they also take some live Q&A from students that, at times can get a little bit spicy! You for sure want to give this weeks episode a listen!
Ep.41: Whole Assing Your Spirituality
What does it mean to half-ass your faith? Can you? If so, what does it look like to whole-ass it? Find out this week with Emily and Danny on The Deconstruction Zone.
Ep.40: An Interview with Author Marla Taviano
This week Danny sits down with author Marla Taviano to chat about her experience with life, faith, and deconstruction. You can learn more about Marla and her work on Instagram by following either: @WhiteGirlLearning or @MarlaTaviano.
Ep.39: Jesus, Lover of Dirtbags
With Emily out with a 101 fever, Danny and Dustin take some time to chat about Jesus' passion for the dirtbags of the world.
Ep.38: TikTok Religions, Exposure Therapy & Sour Patch Kids
This week Emily and Danny talk about a new TikTok religion called Aluna (a low-stakes religion where everything is optional). Here's the question for today: what are we missing out on by embracing an utterly optional faith?)
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Ep.37: Why are we doing this podcast?
We are 37 weeks into The Deconstruction Zone. This week Danny drills down and asks Emily some tough questions about where she is, how she got there, and where she hopes to be.