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Design System Office Hours

Design System Office Hours

By Davy Fung + PJ Onori

Davy and PJ, design system practitioners talk about design-led product ownership, scaling and adoption, community and engagement, design system team models, and much more.
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Ep 22: Let's Get Started, Year 0-1
Ep 22: Let's Get Started, Year 0-1
Originally episode 21, if not for our last special episode on layoffs, we talk about how to get a design system up and running, and things we looked to achieve in years 0-1. This ep is the first in a series of 3 episodes about getting started in design systems. Episode Transcripts
33:48
November 30, 2022
Ep 21: ROI During Layoffs
Ep 21: ROI During Layoffs
During this rough week at Meta and Twitter, Davy and PJ discuss how to continuously prove ROI for yourself and your team in the light of operating on leaner teams.  Episode Transcripts
32:47
November 10, 2022
Ep 20: Education and Onboarding
Ep 20: Education and Onboarding
Happy Halloween and 20th episode to us! Davy and PJ talk about how their teams support educating designers and the continuous task of training product designers, whether they are new to the org, or just new to the design system. Episode Transcripts
36:40
October 31, 2022
Ep 19: Team Models
Ep 19: Team Models
Davy and PJ talk about different design system team make ups at Disney Streaming, Meta, and Pinterest. How federated vs centralized have worked for them; and how big does your team need to be? Episode Transcripts
32:30
October 21, 2022
Ep 18: Contributions
Ep 18: Contributions
Davy and PJ talk about how they're thinking about contribution models on their teams and mechanisms to get better XFN collaboration between design and engineering. Episode Transcripts
33:17
October 05, 2022
Ep 17.5 Long Live Figma (BONUS)
Ep 17.5 Long Live Figma (BONUS)
Davy and PJ react to the earth-shattering news that Adobe is “teaming up" with Figma, and what that may or may not mean to us. Episode Transcripts
35:26
September 19, 2022
Ep 17: Copy Cats and Mimicry
Ep 17: Copy Cats and Mimicry
Davy and PJ discuss issues with copy cat design patterns and frameworks. What might work for your company may not work for the next. Design systems is not one size fits all, but fits most. Episode Transcripts
33:03
September 15, 2022
Ep 16: Automation
Ep 16: Automation
Davy talks with PJ about various ways of automating design system and design ops tasks to help our day-to-day lives as worker-bees easier. Episode Transcripts
34:53
August 31, 2022
Ep 15: Support
Ep 15: Support
Davy and PJ talk about their methods of design systems support, ranging from Davy's fave, Office Hours, to async support on Slack. A good episode candidate to do design systems bingo/drinking game.  Episode Transcripts
27:60
August 18, 2022
Ep 14: File Hygiene
Ep 14: File Hygiene
PJ grills Davy about his super organized and sometimes outrageous file hygiene mandates he lead while working at Disney Streaming. How can you use organization and naming to drive better alignment across design and engineering partners? Episode Transcripts
29:51
August 06, 2022
Ep 13: Feedback
Ep 13: Feedback
Davy and PJ talk about how we've incorporated design and engineering user feedback on our design system work. Leaning into surveys, PJ has had great success half-over-half by employing a new product framework.. listening.  Episode Transcripts
33:50
July 18, 2022
Ep 12: Speaking
Ep 12: Speaking
Davy talks about speaking at his first design conference last month, UXDX. We talk about how to find your voice and how to get started for those whom want to engage more with the product design community. Episode Transcripts
31:34
June 29, 2022
Ep 11: Adoption
Ep 11: Adoption
We took a long Memorial Day vacay and back to talk about adoption methods and get how to get designers excited to use your design system. Chatter about how different strategies apply for differing scale of teams.  Episode Transcripts
30:20
June 07, 2022
Ep 10: Hindsight, What We Wish We've Known...
Ep 10: Hindsight, What We Wish We've Known...
Happy 10th episode birthday! We wanted to take a look at and see, knowing what we've known about working on design systems at our companies, what we wish we would have known had we started today. Episode Transcripts
27:13
May 23, 2022
Ep 9: ROI
Ep 9: ROI
We're almost at episode 10, and we're here to talk about ROI, driving impact. It has to do with learning what leadership's LOVE LANGUAGE is. Episode Transcripts
33:20
May 13, 2022
Ep 8: Multi-brand Design Systems
Ep 8: Multi-brand Design Systems
We talk about a fun topic of scale, how to support multiple brands under 1 design system. Davy talks a bit about considerations when designing across Disney+ and Star+ and the usage of theming to design for one system in whole. Episode Transcripts
33:16
April 27, 2022
Ep 7: JIRA MORMONT
Ep 7: JIRA MORMONT
We've polled our listeners and heard that JIRA was their favorite design tool, over Figma. So we decided to talk about how we've utilized JIRA as Design System product owners and how it's impacted the way we plan our work. Episode Transcriptions
35:27
April 14, 2022
Ep 6: Mandates
Ep 6: Mandates
Mandates, governance, we discuss how our orgs approach the mandates for usage of the Design Systems. Episode Transcripts
27:41
March 29, 2022
Ep 5: Figma is NOT a Design System
Ep 5: Figma is NOT a Design System
Is your work in Figma a Design System? We chat about how design artifacts and tools are just one portion of what a system represents. Episode Transcripts
32:36
March 16, 2022
Ep 4: Documentation
Ep 4: Documentation
One of the favorite talking points of all Design System folx, Documentation. What does documentation mean to you? Episode Transcripts
32:39
March 01, 2022
Ep 3: Releases and Versioning
Ep 3: Releases and Versioning
An meta-pilot on releasing the podcast on a Wednesday vs a Friday. We talk about how we manage Design System releases as well as the differences between versioning and version control.  Episode Transcripts
33:08
February 16, 2022
Ep 2: Design Technologists
Ep 2: Design Technologists
Welcome to our second episode! We have Ayesha Mazrana (@AyeshaKMaz) a Design Technologist at Pinterest, talking about her role, how she works with design and engineering, and how she's found success working on a Design Systems team with PJ. Episode Transcripts
30:49
February 03, 2022
Ep 1: Design Management for Design Systems
Ep 1: Design Management for Design Systems
Welcome to our first episode. Davy and PJ talk about who they are, and dive into their roles as Design Managers, managing Design Systems for 2 different organizations. Episode Transcripts
34:47
January 21, 2022
Ep 0: Design System Office Hours Intro
Ep 0: Design System Office Hours Intro
Design System Office Hours trailer. No spoilers!
00:30
January 17, 2022