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Digitally Rare

By Jonathan Mann
Matt Condon and Jonathan Mann explore what it means to own things on the blockchain and beyond.
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Digitally Rare

Tomb Time w/ David Rudnick
We chat with David Rudnick about his practice and so much more, including the Tomb Series and each Tomb’s curatorial powers, sustainable and evolutionary objects, Stems I, II, III, and IV.
September 29, 2022
Season 3: Now, The Future, And We’re Still Here
September 20, 2022
Then And Now: 4 Years of Digitally Rare
Matt and Jonathan celebrate Digitally Rare’s 4 year anniversary by listening to some old clips and wondering how we got here.
July 17, 2022
JPG2k + Digitally Rare = [this podcast]
It's a crossover episode! Well, almost. Matt did not wake up in time, and so Jonathan talks solo with Noah and Viv from the excellent NFT pod, JPG2k. We cover everything from Noah's new Chicken's NFT project, to how they got into NFTs and all kinds of other great NFT content. 
July 13, 2022
Emitting and Admitting — 'Amends' for ETH
With his project 'Amends’, Kyle McDonald measures NFT activity on Ethereum during PoW and captures the historical emissions of three NFT marketplaces as handmade glass sculptures, to be auctioned during the merge, when Ethereum switches to Proof of Stake.
June 28, 2022
Out of Chaos: 45 Tracks
Matthew Chaim from SongCamp comes on the pod to discuss Chaos, the SongCamp's headless band, formed and re-formed each week, which produced 45 tracks in 6 weeks. 
June 21, 2022
web3 could be going a few different ways
We chat with Molly White—author of 'web3 is going great'—and proudly join the ranks of those who have failed to convince her that blockchains might actually be pretty neat. We chat negative externalities, the power of economic incentives, and whether or not the NFT in Matt's hand is morally ok.
May 27, 2022
Choosing Peacefall (Or Not!)
Cameron Koczon from Fictive Kin brings us to a land of warriors and fighters battling it out on Ethereum to gain levels and be the very best that ever was.
May 17, 2022
Welcome to the BoysClub
Boys Club is social club and soon-to-be DAO that is welcoming the next 1 million women and non-binary people to web3. Their supporter NFTs launch to the public on May 14th, 2022.
May 11, 2022
Immateriality is in My Jeans
Kevin Esherick walks us (hah) through Material, a continuous art project exploring materiality, tangibility, and the ephemeral, via an absolutely sick pair of jeans.
May 03, 2022 — Restoring Justice And The Dignity of Returning Citizens
Abe Uccello is establishing, an initiative that helps formerly incarcerated individuals lessen the financial burden of reentering society by coupling their personal artworks and documentation of their restorative journey in an NFT.
April 18, 2022
Ampl(ed) Reasons to Join a MetaLabel
Austin Robey (@austinrobey_) joins us to discuss the Bandcamp ➡️ Epic sale, the CryptoPunks ➡️ Yuga sale, and alternative organizational principles for communities, collectives, and a novel structure of the 'think-and-do tank’ that Austin calls the METALABEL.
April 06, 2022
Disco: A Digital Backpack For the LARP That Is Your Life
We chat with Evin (@provenauthority) about what’s-old-is-new technology standards that Disco is using to encourage a user-centric model of the web. Tune in to learn about Verified Credentials, Decentralized Identifiers, and all about Disco’s tech.
March 28, 2022
free jesus pamphlet fast cash money cash plus dot biz crypto god king condiments
A whimsical journey in which we bring steviep into a not-so-abandoned stairwell and discuss the mark of the beast, fast cash money cash plus dot biz, jesus pamphlets, discarded condiment packages, and the conceptual brilliance of free tokens.
March 02, 2022
Rule Breakers Following Rules
Rule-based art, speedruns, derived digitally scarcity, craft & care & flow states & attention over time, defining constraints and iterating in surprising ways within them, legibility vs complexity, desert society, and generative art transforming from an artist’s tool into the artist itself.
February 11, 2022
Song A (Finally) Done!
Matt gets high and Jonathan reinvents RSS (again). We shit-talk beniemaxi and discuss SongADAO, why Matt can’t stop buying conceptual art NFTs, the map and the territory, the temporal nature of information, steviep, and religion.
January 07, 2022
Wen Pete Davidson & Kim Kardashian Sex Tape?
The Most Famous Artist(s) collective is rewriting the rules of the art world w/ collaborative art careers, building a literal city, how brands should embrace web3 in ways that don’t suck, why the innovator’s dilemma doesn’t apply to discord, what ConstitutionDAO did wrong, gas prices (lol), how to save the world with NFTs, and the art-ification of route 66 into the American cultural highway. Also RIP Virgil.
December 17, 2021
Socialism? On My Blockchain? It’s More Common Than You Think!
The Blockchain Socialist & the boys deal with the haters, talk about Cybersyn, discuss how DAOs are just cooperatives, and how libertarians rediscovered sociocracy.
December 08, 2021
Listen To This Space! w/ Latashá
Latashá and your hosts get into music x crypto, education, and the opportunity of building a new system with new tools.
November 22, 2021
w*b3, and N/F/Ts, w/ Dan Olson
SPICY TAKES from both sides as we deep dive with web3/NFT skeptic Dan Olson of Folding Ideas. We ask and get asked the hard questions about what web3 is about, and whether the dominate powers of yesteryear have their claws in the future.
November 13, 2021 Parenting the Crypto Art Movement
We catch up with Judy and Bea to see where, a pioneering 2017 digital art movement is today, following the relaunch of their iconic 2017 collection Creeps and Weirdos.
October 21, 2021
A RAW Discussion w/ Luis of Fingerprints
Luis from Fingerprints discusses DeFi + NFTs, scaling a Dao from 15 to 200 members, photography finding its medium in NFTs, and the power of community.
September 30, 2021
An In-Depth (Troll) Debrief
Matt and Jonathan decompress from the wild ride that was August 2021, and chat about the Fuckin’ Trolls and their Tunes, the Doge NFT, SHL0MS’ toilet, sushi’ing OpenSea (#first), PaperclipDAO, NFT Archeology, Loot, and AMULETSSSSS.
September 20, 2021
Off and Lifeforms: Is This an Art? (Yes)
We catch up with artist Sarah Friend (@isthisanart_)—starting with stories from NFT history past—and learn about Off, a coordination experiment with NFT art and Lifeforms, digital NFT entities that one must keep alive. 🌱
September 05, 2021
NFTs for (Offline!) Community, w/ HOLDERSLAND
Haleek Maul  is using his NFTs to bootstrap and support a Caribbean creator community, online and off, called HOLDERSLAND.
August 25, 2021
How Now, Noun DAO? (4156 Interview)
Punk 4156 talks the Nouns visio, covering innovative IP, governance, and cinematic universe b. Also: PFPs as a new medium.
August 16, 2021
The Song That Owns Itself
Aubrey Anderson and George Howard helped create STOI, the Song That Owns Itself — they experiment with modern crypto-based royalty and licensing, on-chain governance, and human-facing interactive AI, all in the name of the autonomous entity that is God Particle.
July 28, 2021
A Poppin’ Profile Picture Project Party
Learn why profile picture NFTs took off recently! Plus, we drop knowledge on NFTs + social spaces, talk shit about NFT projects discuss how vested interests shape online narratives, and matt introduces a new protocol called Epoxy.
July 19, 2021
Cataloging What Works w/ Jeremy Stern
Supporting musicians, building on top of Zora, and the social dynamics of music listening and ownership with Jeremy Stern, the co-founder of Catalog.
July 14, 2021
Music Royalties, but make it DeFi
Gary Young from Royalty Exchange gives us a look inside the music industry and how we might use NFTs to invest directly into an artist's off-chain royalties.
July 06, 2021
In Which We Vibe With Austin Griffith
Literally just a delightful conversation with the lovely builder of all things Ethereum, Austin Griffith.
June 24, 2021
Thinking Outside the Glitchbox: 0xDEAFBEEF's On-Chain Generative Art
Generative artist 0xDEAFBEEF constantly pushes the edges of on-chain generative art—we chat about how and why his projects are exploring the boundaries of the medium of generative art.
June 14, 2021
Welcome to the Cool Zone (of Immaterial Pictorial Sensibility)
How conceptual artist Yves Klein predicted 2021 in 1958, and how the digital manifestation of his work was brought to life in 2017—just after CryptoPunks—by Mitchell Chan.
June 08, 2021
The Matthew and Rizzle Show… on Digitally Rare!
Matthew and Rizzle join us to react to the Christie’s punk auction, talk meebits & the metaverse, and uncover the bored ape conspiracy.
May 24, 2021
AMMs, MATT Auctions, and NFT MySpace
We shoot the shit on current events, talk about automated market makers w/ NFTs, go over Dan Finlay’s MATT auction mechanic, and arrive at the intersection of identity, self-expression, and social networking.
May 17, 2021
Open Science and NFT Funding w/ Matt Stephenson
Why was the cure for scurvy lost for years after its discovery? Why has a potentially revolutionary diet gone un-trialed for years? Matt Stephenson walks us thought his work with Planck to change the incentives around open science, funding, and research attribution.
April 29, 2021
NFT Questions From The Urbit Chat
Imagine lounge chairs against a rain-dipped window, fire raging, and lofi emanating from the beyond — we talk current NFT news and answer insightful questions from pseudonymous internet people on urbit.
April 15, 2021
An NFT Conversation to Vibe To
A casual descent into the rabbit hole of hedonic value.
April 05, 2021
DeFi x NFTs — A Guided Tour of Non-Fungible Decentralized Finance
Dan Elitzer, founder of the MIT Bitcoin Club and Nascent, gives us a guided tour of the world of DeFi and NFTs—how do we build DeFi-first, with more personal economic systems; when should or shouldn’t we lean into the financialization of everything; the power of protocol defaults & consciously-applied friction; the distribution of scarce resources; assessing and unlocking value trapped in under-utilized NFTs; and the power of experimenting at the edges of what’s possible.
March 30, 2021
Simon de la Rouviere, the Mad Scientist of Crypto Art
Autonomous generative artists, Ethereum archaeology, bonding curves, NFT graveyards, harberger taxes, creative monetization, open licenses, and a novel about all of those things—come with us on a tour of the crypto art world with Simon de la Rouviere.
March 17, 2021
The Art-knowing Artnome
Jason Bailey of Artnome brings us into the future with comments on the past, how subcultures change, and ...mops?
January 29, 2021
Urbit ID Is An NFT
We break down why anyone would want to own a digital—or analog, for that matter—object as we chat with Galen Wolfe-Pauly of Urbit. Urbit is a novel re-architecture of computers and the web that tracks social and cryptographic identity on Ethereum as an NFT. Listen to see how the Urbit ID system is a perfect illustration of our ownership-value-framework.
January 07, 2021
We're Back! New Year, New Season
After a long hiatus that saw both Matt and Jonathan stepping away from the NFT space to work on other projects, we are BACK and ready to start a whole new chapter of Digitally Rare.  This is a mini-episode to say hello, and deal with an NFT conundrum that Jonathan has been thinking about. He's finally launching the Song A Day NFT project! See the first tokenized Song A Day here. A real new episode will drop a week from today, where we speak with Galen of Tlon, who's making Urbit. It's a fascinating conversation. We have a whole new format we're working on for the show, and a ton of great interviews already in the can.
January 01, 2021
Clovers: Growing Art at Home with Billy Rennekamp
It's Clovers day on Digitally Rare! Billy Rennekamp joins us to about Clovers his project that combines generative art, novel proof of work, bonding curves, and a life-long quest to find a four-leaf clover, teaching us about authentic scarcity, NFTs-as-money, and flower-based economics.
August 28, 2019
Art Thou an ArtDAO,
We're so excited to talk with Gene Kogan about his big, ambitious plans for a completely autonomous, decentralized, truly creative AI artist. He calls it Abraham AI. When it gets up and running, it'll autonomously produce NFTs. And you can be involved! Read the blog post:
July 17, 2019
Tough Love and Hot Takes (Live in NYC @ RareAF2)
We're trapped in a stairwell and the the only cure is some hot takes! I think I'm mixing my metaphors. This episode was recorded on location at the 2nd ever Rare Art Fest in Bushwick Brooklyn on May 18th, 2019! It features a staggering array of NFT/crypto art luminaries: Joe Looney of Rare Pepe and Freeport Jason Bailey of ArtnomeSimon de la Rouviere of many, many thingsJason Rosenstein of PortionFanny Lakoubay of Nifty.SupplyJessica Angel of #artproject Decentralized and TruebitJonathan Perkins and John Crain of SuperRareChris Robison of Hoarde It was a blast to record, and I hope you enjoy listening to it!
May 21, 2019
Great Artists Take a Measured Approach to Shipping
Your intrepid hosts take some time to catch up with one another on the state of their respective projects, and are surprised to learn that they both find themselves standing at the same crossroads. It's a shill or be shilled world.
May 08, 2019
A Discussion With Some OG Crypto Punks
We so excited to welcome the Velvet Underground of NFT on Ethereum, Matt and John of Cryptopunks and (now) Autoglyphs fame! Things discussed: - The state of art on the blockchain - specifically the ways that the traditional digital art market is already just a crappy blockchain, basically.- What's different about launching an NFT project now vs two years ago. - Pause functions in Ethereum. - Choon, and the perils of launching a blockchain project that people seem to really love. - An abandoned Larva Labs NFT project idea. and much much more!
April 16, 2019
Every Crypto Network Is A Game
Mark Burstiner takes gaming even further Baeond with cryptoeconomic-inspired game design and a unique approach to goverance, monetary policy, and ownership. Visit to learn more.   Also: T SHIRTS! They're still for sale! as of 4/9/19, you have 6 days left until they're gone forever.
April 09, 2019
Gumby Is The Most Flexible Business Partner
We've got Cyrus Lohrasbpour in the hot seat to talk about NFT maximalism, why we love CryptoPunks so damn much and how he licensed Gumby to be the in the first artwork he's selling on his NFT platform called ZOMA! He's running a Kickstarter to fund the creation of the platform. Also: We are selling t-shirts! They are only on sale from 4/1 - 4/17, and after that, you'll never be able to get this version of the shirt again. The shirt is intentionally misspelled, based on the time when I accidentally misspelled the word "digitally" on our logo.
April 02, 2019
Accessible Privacy is Cool Beans- A Talk with Elena
Elena Nadolinski talks digital privacy and documents her journey down the rabbit hole—how teaching and testing turned her focus to identity and privacy. Why is privacy necessary for digital things, and why on earth don't we have it yet? What do the existing solutions get wrong and how is Beanstalk going to do privacy right? Also, since Elena used to work at AirBnB, Jonathan shares his story of the time he wrote a jingle for the founders...
February 25, 2019
Sharing Ideas about Idea Sharing with Planck
We're back! This week we have economist Matt Stephenson on to talk about his fascinating quest to fix the problems around incentives when it comes to sharing intellectual property. His project is called Planck. He tells two amazing illustrative stories, one about a 16th century royal obstetrician, the other about ancient cultures that used stone tablets as "money".
January 28, 2019
The Hunting of The Snark.Art (with Fanny Lakoubay)
We're thrilled to have Fanny Lakoubay from Snark.Art on the podcast! We discuss Snark's first rad blockchain art experiment, 82 Seconds Atomized by Eve Sussman. We also get a scintillating preview of their next project, which involves poetry, fortune cookies and the question of what's more important: The Art or The Token? We also get a little education on how digital media has been considered "scarce" up until now in the field of fine art.
December 20, 2018
From Devcon To A Japanese Hospital Phone Booth
While Jonathan was on stage at Devcon getting Vitalik to participate in a song, Matt was breaking his ankle in Japan. Despite the time difference, our boys chat about the online response to Jonathan’s Devcon performance, what Matt’s been up to for the last 3 weeks cooped up in a Japanese Hospital, the fact that William Shatner is an Ethereum fan. Plus, they muse on the SEC cracking down on ICOs and what that could mean for the future of NFTs!
November 21, 2018
NFT-Shirts?! Matt Says Yes, Please! (With Dani Grant from Union Sq Ventures)
We are joined by Dani Grant! Dani brings us a whole host of random ideas for dApps she'd love to see someone make. We talk about how to bring our NFTs to life, and how we need a home for them, where we can show them off. And we cover the amazing NFT Summit that we were all at in San Francisco (including the recap song that Jonathan made for the conference).
November 01, 2018
Skiing On Bits! (with Saya from Bitski)
We talked with Saya from Bitski about the myriad ways she works to make blockchain more understandble, and her philosophy for exposing new folks to the space. We also talk a bit about the failed Civil token sale, and the podacst Jonathan likes, Zig Zag.
October 22, 2018
Digitally. Rare. Memes. Roll Credits! (w/ Brady McKenna from District0x)
This week we're thrilled to welcome Brady McKenna, VR musician and community manager at District0x! We learn all about what District0x is up to, specifically their upcoming NFT district, Meme Factory. Register for the Non Fungible Summit, Friday October 12th in San Francisco! Participate in Jonathan's Initial Song Offering!
September 21, 2018
Top Five Crypto Collectible Wishlist
We cover the Coinbase vs. Apple hubub, HTC's hilarious "blockchain phone", Matt’s super cool sovereign identity project and Jonathan's top five crypto collectible wishlist!
September 10, 2018
The Last Non-Crypto Designer In The World
This week on the show we have designer and all around internet guy, Ben Pieratt. I (this is Jonathan writing) was excited to have Ben on the show because he's the first non-crypto tech friend that I've seen in my feed getting excited about NFTs. Ben is the co-founder of Svpply and was creative director of Electric Objects and has made all kinds of insanely interesting internet projects. He's currently working on a startup in the Crypto Art space, but it's super hush hush, so shhhhh. We  talk about his journey into the heart of crypto, specifically, we talk all AROUND his stealth start up. And we talk about Ben's dream of using the form of a startup as an art project, and his early attempt at this with Dead Bookstore. And we talk a bit about the MLB collectibles debacle, and get into the weeds on the Axiom/Dapper Labs NIFTY trademark dispute. It's a good one folks!
August 20, 2018
The Space Between The Token and The image (With Joe Looney!)
In this episode, we have our first guest: Joe Looney of Rare Pepe Wallet fame. He walks us through his argument for why maybe NFTs on Ethereum aren't quite as immutable and decentralized as we all thought. He implores us to take another look at Counterparty on Bitcoin and gives us his take on an asset's relationship to it's token. We also talk about the necessity of having an authentic narrative backing your NFT, or else, like, what are you even doing?
August 07, 2018
There's No "i" in NFT (or IS there?)
Matt and Jonathan get to know each other and talk about NFTY vs. NIFTY, the CryptoKitty NFT licsense, explaining NFTs to normal people, why we collect things and much more.
July 17, 2018