Diverse Routes: Career Journeys in Science & Medicine
By Cassie Briggs
Diverse Routes: Career Journeys in Science & MedicineOct 04, 2022
Conservation Policy Director - Hilary Eisen
About Our Guest:
- Hilary Eisen is the Conservation Policy Director at Winter Wildlands Alliance, a nonprofit organization dedicated to inspiring and empowering people to protect America’s wild snowscapes. She works with grassroot partners, agency staff, and elected officials on National Forest winter travel management, forest planning, and other policy issues.
- Hilary started her career in public lands in the backcountry, maintaining Forest Service trails and educating the public about Wilderness stewardship as a Wilderness Ranger while spending winters working on wildlife research projects.
- She also earned a BA in conservation biology from Middlebury College and an MS in wildlife biology from the University of Montana along the way.
Episode Highlights:
If you have an adventurous spirit and love spending time in the great outdoors, you will be captivated by Hilary’s career journey story. And here are a few other inspiring topics from today’s episode:
- How creating your own job description might lead to an exciting opportunity
- When to include your hobbies on a resume
- Which conversation jobs involve more time in the office than time outdoors
And if you’re looking for a way to visit top vacation destinations like Lake Tahoe or Yellowstone and get paid for it, this is the episode for you!
Learn More:
- Go to successinscienceCC.com/podcast for more details, including resources provided by our guest.
- Access the full, extended interview at patreon.com/diverseroutes
- Contact our host, Dr. Cassie Briggs at cassie@successinscienceCC.com
STEM Career Development Professional - Dr. Delaney Dann
Dr. Delaney Dann is a Career & Professional Development Manager at Scripps, a nonprofit biomedical research institute in San Diego, CA. With a background in molecular biology, including a BS in biology, a couple years in the biotech industry, and a PhD in biology Delaney had her sights on becoming a university biology professor. But during the interview process, realized that a faculty role was not the right fit for her. So, she used an NIH fellowship to explore alternative career options and build her skills and network - landing her in her current role where she supports early career scientists through career development workshops, programing, and advising.
Episode Highlights:
- What things to consider when contemplating a gap year before grad school
- How to successfully “cold apply” for jobs - that is land a job without an network connection
- How online learning (or teaching) can prepare you for a remote or hybrid career
BONUS: And we reveal the non-science class, every scientist should take.
Go to successinscienceCC.com/podcast for more details, including resources referred to in this episode.
Access the full, extended interview at patreon.com/diverseroutes.
Emergency Medicine Physician - Dr. James Mantas
Dr. James Mantas is an Emergency Medicine Physician at Stony Brook. Originally from upstate New York, James earned his undergraduate degree at Hartwick College, then was the assistant basketball coach at Skidmore University before heading to medical school and earning his MD at New York Medical College.
Episode Highlights:
- How not to pick a college
- How to get into med school
- Life as a student athlete
Go to successinscienceCC.com/podcast for more details, including resources referred to in this episode.
Access the extended interview at patreon.com/diverseroutes
Entomologist - Dr. Tanya Latty
Dr. Tanya Latty is an associate professor at the University of Sydney Australia. As an invertebrate ecologist or entomologist she has a broad interest in insect behavior and ecology, such as finding ways to create pollinator friendly cities and using invertebrates as inspiration for new technologies. Tanya has a special fondness for what some would consider ‘weird’ and ‘under studied taxa’, such as slime moulds and velvet worms. And she is also deeply committed to outreach and education and is an active science communicator having working in TV, radio, and print media.
Dr. Tanya Latty is our first international guest on this podcast and offers an incredibly valuable perspective for those of you considering studying or working outside of the United States. But for those of you wishing to stay in the States, much of what we discuss applies to you too!
Data Scientist - Lauren Bretz
Lauren Bretz is a Lead Manager on Starbucks’ Data Science team, building enterprise self-service tools. Prior to Starbucks Lauren was an Applied Scientist at Zillow, constructing and forecasting economic time series. Lauren has a Bachelor’s degree in Statistics, Economics, and Finance and a Master’s degree in Applied Statistics.
Episode Highlights:
- Preparing for your industry interview (including what to consider if you are not fluent in all the programs listed in a job ad)
- Overview of 3 different paths in data science
- Clarifying the purpose of and differences between a mentor, a coach, and a consultant or advisor
Go to successinscienceCC.com/podcast for more details, including resources referred to in this episode.
Access to extended interview at patreon.com/diverseroutes.
Life Science Consultant - Dr. Terence Wong
Dr. Terence Wong is a Life Science Consultant at ZS Associates where he delivers innovative solutions to biomedical research, clinical development, medical affairs, and pipeline and launch strategies for clients in the biotech and Pharma industries.
Prior to ZS, Terence was a Clinical Genomics Analyst at Rady Children’s Institute for Genomic Medicine and genetics instructor at UC San Diego Extended Studies.
Terence was born and raised in Honolulu, HI by his parents who both immigrated to America from Asia. And he is the first in his family to go to college and the first in even his extended family to earn a doctoral degree.
Episode Highlights:
- How you can start contributing to your retirement as a graduate student
- What questions to expect in a job interview
- How attending (food) sponsored events could lead to your next big break!
successinscienceCC.com/podcast for more details, including resources referred to in this episode.
Become a patron and gain access to the extended video interview @ patreon.com/diverseroutes
Bioanalytical Chemist - Dr. Darrell D. Marshall
Dr. Darrell Marshall is CEO, Research Scientist, and founder of Total Analysis. Darrell holds a PhD in Bioanalytical chemistry, specializing in infectious diseases, ionization product development, and machine learning. With 13 years of research experience, he has worked on multiple innovative projects, including an ovarian cancer screening tool based on ML and nuclear magnetic resonance, an automated tool for bacterial species identification, and a mass spectrometer-based bacterial tool. He has co-authored over 25 publications and two book chapters.
Episode Highlights:
- How to land your first research opportunity as an undergraduate (be bold, be brave)
- The hidden benefit of applying to jobs where you might not have all the credentials (be bold, be brave)
- Insight into launching your own start-up (be bold, be brave)
See successinscienceCC.com/podcast for more details, including resources referred to in this episode.
Become a patron and gain access to the extended interview @ patreon.com/diverseroutes.
Conservation Geneticist - Dr. JJ Apodaca
Dr. JJ Apodaca is a conservationist, geneticist, and founder of Tangled Bank Conservation serving to protect threatened and endangered species across the world. As a leader in amphibian and reptile conservation for over a decade, he is also the current Executive Director for the Amphibian and Reptile Conservancy. He’s brought in millions of dollars of conservation funding and has worked with some of the biggest names in conservation, including San Diego Zoo, The Nature Conservancy, and the World Wildlife Fund.
Episode Highlights:
- Deciding whether or not to get a Master's before a PhD
- How to get conservation agencies to listen to you as an academic researcher
- How to make the unheard of leap out of academia and into your own business
See successinscienceCC.com/podcast for more details, including references referred to in this episode.
Become a patron and gain access to the extended interview @ patreon.com/diverseroutes.
Conservation Planner - Joel Betts
Joel Betts, MS is a stream ecologist, naturalist, and conservationist dedicated to restoring and conserving forests and fish in the Great Lakes and abroad. Currently, Joel is a MAEAP (Michigan Agriculture Environmental Assurance) Coordinator for Kent Conservation District. Before working for the KCD, Joel was an Adjunct Professor in Michigan, Conservation Planner in Massachusetts, Conservation Associate and Research in Nicaragua, and a field technician in Alaska, Michigan, and Puerto Rico.
Episode Highlights:
- Rewards and challenges of conducting research abroad
- Benefits of attending a small college where a Bachelor's is the terminal degree
- The course all conservation biologists should take that might surprise you
See successinscienceCC.com/podcast for more details.
Become a patron and gain access to the extended interview @ patreon.com/diverseroutes.
Physical Therapist (PT) - Alison Vannoy
Alison Vannoy, PT, DPT, and COMT is Physical Therapist at Results Physiotherapy, an outpatient orthopedic clinic in Nashville, Tennessee. Alison got her Bachelor’s in Exercise Science from Auburn University and Doctorate in Physical Therapy from the University of Tennessee at Chattanooga. She immediately landed her current position and has been treating orthopedic cases in people of all ages and vestibular and torticollis in infants for the past 4 years.
Episode Highlights:
- When to start shadowing
- What job experiences to put on your resume
- Specializations in physical therapy
You will definitely want to listen to this episode from start to finish. At the beginning you will get some insight into our upbringing (we’re cousins) and at the end Alison shares an experience she had during her interview that all of us could benefit from hearing.
See successinscienceCC.com/podcast for more details.
Become a patron and gain access to the extended interview @ patreon.com/diverseroutes.
NASA Scientist & Physics Professor - Dr. Nicolle Zellner
Dr. Nicolle Zellner is a professor of physics at Albion College in Albion, MI, where she teaches introductory and advanced astronomy and physics courses. She is currently working as a NASA Program Scientist in NASAs Planetary Science Division.
This episode is packed full of useful insight for those in high school exploring their career options to established scientists seeking grant funding for their research.
Episode Highlights:
- how to pick a major in college
- what you should consider when applying to grad school
- how you can influence the direction of science in your career
You can’t help but be inspired by Nicolle’s story and words of wisdom; in a field still dominated by men she persisted.
Physician Assistant (PA) - Anna Buck
Anna Buck is a Physician Assistant at West Coast Sports Institute, the doctors for the San Francisco Giants and 49ers.
Anna provides a fresh and authentic perspective as she recently landed her first position after moving across the country from Knoxville Tennessee to Santa Clara California, and passing her Boards and obtaining licensing just weeks after graduating from Lipscomb University and getting married.
As a former collegiate athlete at Lee University, Anna talks about how her basketball career provided her with valuable skills she uses in day-to-day life as PA and it likely helped her land her current position with a sports medicine and primary care medical practice.
This episode is a must listen. Anna shares incredible detail about her journey and provides practical advice for how to succeed in this competitive field.
Episode Highlights:
- How collegiate sports could help you land your first job
- Navigating the job market when moving across the country
- What you need to know about passing your Boards
Resources Provided by Guest:
Environmental Conservation (Nonprofit) - Melissa Kivel & Lydia Nicholas
Melissa Kivel is an Education Manager and Lydia Nicholas is a Environmental Field Technician for Friends of the St. Clair River, a non-profit environmental conservation organization.
Melissa earned a bachelor’s degree in education from Western Michigan University. She had her first experience with Friends in 2010 as a volunteer for the stream leaders water quality monitoring program. Then after meeting the organizations president while working for the St. Clair County Health Department she pursed an a job opening with Friends and is now the Education Manager.
Lydia Nicholas's lifelong interest in Great Lakes ecosystems, Evolutionary Biology degree from Michigan Technological University, participation in climate change research, and attendance at Sturgeon Fest (an event organized by Friends) eventually led them to their current position as the an Environmental Field Technician with Friends.
Episode Highlights:
- Gap semesters and gap years don’t hinder your future success
- Volunteering and getting involved in community events could lead to a fulfilling, paid position
- Benefits of working for a non-profit
- What does a non-profit look for in a quality application?
Resources Provided by Guests:
- https://www.facebook.com/stclairriver/
- 500queerscientists.com
Surveyor - Jacqueline Dresser
Jacqueline (Jackie) Dresser is a land surveyor at T.G. Miller, P.C. Jackie earned a Bachelor of Science degree in Land Surveying from Alfred State College. Following graduation and a brief stint in NYC, she transitioned to research in a precision viticulture program, Efficient Vineyard with Cornell University helping wineries collect, analyze, and apply spatial data to their agricultural practices.
Episode Highlights:
- Why career exploration is essential even if you end up back where you started
- How relationships can save you from ever having to formally submit a job application
- Why a lengthy on-the-job experience requirement is actually for your own good in the field of surveying
Resources:
nysapls.org
nsps.us.com
https://mentoringmondays.xyz/
https://amerisurv.com/
https://www.efficientvineyard.com/
Nurse - John Diller
John Diller, RN is a Charge Nurse with Beacon Health System. His previous experience includes work as a CNA and telemetry technician and his previous educational experience includes a nursing degree (ASN), BS in Entomology from Purdue University, and a Master's in Biology from Central Michigan University.
Episode Highlights:
- Excellent overview of the various types of nursing;
- A reason to make a career shift that few consider;
- Incorporating your interests in your career;
Resources:
Hydrogeologist - Erin Lynch
Erin Lynch is lead hydrogeologist at WSP USA, working with federal clients to manage abandoned mine land cleanups. Erin completed her Bachelors and Masters at Michigan State University. Previously Erin worked for Lansing Community College, US Geological Survey, and Ecology and Environment Inc.;
Episode Highlights:
- Failure might just be redirection;
- Employers expect to train entry-level applicants;
- Highlight your school projects on your resume;
Resources:
- USGS Water Resources: https://www.usgs.gov/mission-areas/water-resources/science;
- Inclusive Culture/Meetings: https://hbr.org/2019/09/to-build-an-inclusive-culture-start-with-inclusive-meetings
Veterinary Technician (Zoo) - Erica Campbell
Erica Campbell is a licensed veterinary technician at the Detroit Zoo. She began her career in veterinary medicine over 20 years ago as a receptionist at an exotics practice, moving on to a small animal clinic after her previous practice closed, and landing her current position 14 years ago.
Episode Highlights:
- Resilience in the face of an unexpected job loss
- How entertaining alternative career options may lead you right back to where you started
- The importance of preparation for job interviews
- The ways in which working at a small animal clinic can and cannot help you prepare for work at a zoo
- The importance of clinical experience - can you handle the cute and cuddly and the blood and gore?
Resources:
- https://www.navta.net/
- https://azvt.org/
- https://azvt.org/AVZMT
- https://veterinarybusinessadvisors.com/veterinary-nurse-versus-technician-the-pros-and-the-cons/
Become a patron @ patreon.com/diverseroutes for access to:
- Extended video interview
- Guest contact information
Higher Ed Administrator (Information Technology) - Dr. Melissa Woo
Dr. Melissa Woo, formerly a radiation safety expert who transitioned into IT, is currently the CIO and Executive Vice President for Administration at Michigan State University providing enterprise-wide administrative services such as infrastructure planning and facilities, human resources, procurement and logistics, and sustainability.
Episode Highlights:
- An excellent example of why your college major does not define your career path
- The impact of [Chinese] cultural norms and expectations on a woman's career ambitions
- The importance of mentors and seeking advice from the right people
- How your network can lead you to the next career opportunity (no application necessary!)
Links:
Become a patron @ patreon.com/diverseroutes for access to:
- Extended video interview Guest contact information
Speech-Language Pathologist - Jennifer Hamm
Jennifer Hamm is a Speech-Language Pathologist for the West Shore Educational Service District in Michigan servicing children ages 3-10 that have articulation impairments, expressive and receptive language disorders, stuttering, and autism spectrum disorder.
Episode Highlights:
- Details about the credentialing process
- How an internship can lead to a permanent job opportunity
- Resources to look for in a graduate program
Resources:
- https://www.asha.org/
- https://www.michiganspeechhearing.org/,
- https://www.cmich.edu/program/speech-language-pathology
Become a patron @ patreon.com/diverseroutes for access to:
- Extended video interview
- Guest contact information
Wildlife Biologist (NPS) - Bob Cherry
Bob worked for the National Park Service for 41 years in six different parks in six different regions. The last 29 years were spent as Wildlife Biologist on the Blue Ridge Parkway where he worked with a wide variety of animals and resources.
Episode Highlights:
- Why a recommendation might be more important than your experience
- Using college as an opportunity to explore career options
- What different sized organizations offer
Resources:
Chief Medical Officer (Veterinary Medicine) - Dr. Jennifer Welser
Dr. Jennifer Welser is Chief Medical and Quality Officer for Mars Veterinary Health. In her role, Dr. Welser leads the Medical Affairs function across the organization and works in close partnership with the chief medical officers of each practice to grow access to high-quality, innovative veterinary care and support. Previously, Dr. Welser served as the Chief Medical Officer for BluePearl Veterinary Partners, led a successful career as a veterinary specialty practitioner, practice owner and medical leader.
A Few Episode Highlights:
- How a 5th grade project turned into a formal veterinary internship
- Value of office hours with professors during college and professional school
- Options for veterinarians beyond the traditional clinical practice
Teaching Professor (Biology) - Dr. Shahnaz Masani
Dr. Shahnaz Masani (she/her) is a Teaching Professor (Biology) at Lyman Briggs College at Michigan State University who shares her experience moving to a new country (India to the United States) and teaching at a large R1 university as an immigrant faculty of color.
Recommended Resources:
For aspiring educators: the teaching in higher ed' podcast (https://teachinginhighered.com/episodes/) & book Teaching Change by Jose Antonio Brown (https://www.discoverbooks.com/Teachin...)
For STEM students: 'The Dirty Drug & the Ice Cream Tub episode of RadioLab (https://www.wnycstudios.org/podcasts/radiolab/articles/dirty-drug-and-ice-cream-tub)
For folks who would like to have thoughtful conversations on race, code switch (https://www.npr.org/podcasts/510312/c...)
Introductory Episode
This brief episode introduces the podcast host, Dr. Cassie Briggs, outlines the format of the podcast episodes (interview-style, 30-40 mins), and ways to access bonus content.
***Official Launch Date: March 15th, 2022!***
Links to Resources Mentioned in Episode:
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