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Do Justice

Do Justice

By Office of Social Justice
Do Justice is a conversation starter for those wishing to pursue justice in and through the Christian Church. Together, we’re finding new ideas and perspectives, sharing better ways to engage in justice work, remembering our motivation, and growing in our faith. Join us!

Do Justice is hosted by World Renew, the Office of Social Justice, and the Centre for Public Dialogue of the Christian Reformed Church of North America.
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Edgar Aguilar: Vaccine Equity with La Asociación para una Sociedad más Justa in Honduras | Season 4 Ep. 5
In the final episode of Season 4, Edgar Aguilar, senior researcher with La Asociación para una Sociedad más Justa, or the Association for a More Just Society in Honduras joins us. Edgar shares how organizations and communities advocating for Covid-19 vaccine equity have resulted in increased vaccination rates in Honduras. Chris and Edgar also talk about running—(Edgar likes running to be present in the moment; Chris likes running to the fridge for pizza)—and how work toward increased integrity in the energy sector can help meet both immediate and long-term needs for people in Honduras. (Note for our English-speaking listeners: the abbreviation “ASJ” is pronounced “a” (ah) - “s” (EH-say) - “j” (HOH-ta) in Spanish.) Show Notes: Transcript: https://dojustice.crcna.org/article/edgar-aguilar-vaccine-equity-la-asociaci%C3%B3n-para-una-sociedad-m%C3%A1s-justa-honduras ASJ Honduras: https://asjhonduras.com/webhn/en/home/ ASJ USA: https://www.asj-us.org/
28:19
February 15, 2022
Dena Nicolai: The Gift of Talking With an Elected Official - Advocating With Newcomers and Refugees | Season 4 Ep. 4
Dena Nicolai, chaplain and refugee support mobilizer with the Christian Reformed Churches of British Columbia, shares the simple starting place for much of her engagement with people who have been refugees: joining them for a cup of coffee and saying “tell me how you’re doing.” Dena and Chris also talk about the ministry of sharing in lament, the importance of advocating ‘with’ and rather than ‘for’, and how the advocacy of faith communities and sponsors alongside newcomers changed government policy to provide a more “full” welcome for refugees in Canada. Show Notes: Transcript: https://dojustice.crcna.org/article/dena-nicolai-gift-talking-elected-official Citizens for Public Justice: https://cpj.ca/ Half Welcome Report: https://cpj.ca/a-half-welcome/ Continuing Welcome Report: https://network.crcna.org/biblical-justice/continuing-welcome-report Center for Public Dialogue: https://www.crcna.org/PublicDialogue Faith in Action: https://www.crcna.org/FaithInAction World Renew Refugee Sponsorship: https://worldrenew.ca/refugee-sponsorship Action Center: https://p2a.co/CGfkxsh
34:09
February 08, 2022
Kyle-Meyaard-Schaap: Advocating for the Creation Care Policies We Need Now | Season 4 Ep. 3
In this episode, Kyle Meyaard-Schapp, vice president of the Evangelical Environmental Network (EEN) shares how he got involved in climate advocacy as a Christian - including the middle-school humor nickname for the lake near the town where he grew up! Kyle and Chris also talk about lament as a necessary component of hope, how to encourage folks wherever they are on their justice journeys, and taking the long view when it comes to bringing about change. Show Notes: Transcript: https://dojustice.crcna.org/article/kyle-meyaard-schaap-advocating-creation-care-policies-we-need-now Evangelical Environmental Network: https://creationcare.org/ Kyle on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/kyle.schaap Kyle on Twitter: https://twitter.com/kmeyaardschaap Climate Witness Project: https://www.crcna.org/climate-witness-project
31:51
February 01, 2022
Julia Beazley: Protecting People in Person and in Policy | Season 4 Ep. 2
Julia Beazley, Director of Public Policy for the Evangelical Fellowship of Canada, tells the story of the survivors, church communities, and policy makers who advocated to instate Bill C-36 into law. Chris and Julia also talk about the responsibility to stop treating people in vulnerable circumstances like the problem and address the systemic problems that make people vulnerable. Show Notes: Transcript: https://dojustice.crcna.org/article/julia-beazley-protecting-people-person-and-policy Restorations: https://www.restorationscanada.org/ Defend Dignity: https://defenddignity.ca/ EFC (Evangelical Fellowship of Canada): https://www.evangelicalfellowship.ca/
38:16
January 25, 2022
It’s Long Work: Glimpses into the History of the CRCNA’s Engagement with Charity and Advocacy with Susan VanLopik | Season 4 Ep. 1
You don’t have to be a history geek to appreciate the vintage vibes in this episode! Susan VanLopik, Director of Program Excellence with World Renew joins Chris Orme to look at the broad overview of how (and how long) the CRCNA has been involved in working toward justice throughout its history. Chris and Susan talk about words from a 1973 report to Synod that still pack a punch today and Susan shares the powerful stories that inspire her (and all of us) to keep working toward justice for the long haul. (Sadly, we never get the details about Susan’s finger tattoos. Maybe next time.) Show Notes: Transcript: https://dojustice.crcna.org/article/it%E2%80%99s-long-work-glimpses-history-crcna%E2%80%99s-engagement-charity-and-advocacy-susan-vanlopik World Hunger Report (1978 Acts of Synod, pg. 563: https://www.calvin.edu/library/database/crcnasynod/1978agendaacts.pdf Freedom to Serve Report (1993): https://www.crcna.org/sites/default/files/freedom_to_serve.pdf World Renew U.S. https://worldrenew.net/ World Renew Canada: https://worldrenew.ca/
27:55
January 18, 2022
Chris and Cindy Geek Out About Shalom | Season 4 Intro
Our colleague Cindy Stover joins Chris Orme to geek out about the word “shalom” and set the groundwork for our next season exploring the intersections of charity and advocacy. Live Just.ly: crcna.org/SocialJustice/resources/live-justly Faith In Action: crcna.org/FaithInAction  Transcript: https://dojustice.crcna.org/article/chris-and-cindy-geek-out-about-shalom
17:01
January 11, 2022
Peacemaking/Protestifying with Shane Claiborne | Season 3 Bonus
This advent join us for a conversation with Shane Claiborne on peacemaking.  Shane reflects in dialogue with hosts on what Jesus did with contextual connection to us and Shane shares some of his own stories on discomfort, direct action and being people of presence.  The talk was originally given Northern Alberta Diaconal Conference's Day of Encouragement.   We're busy working on our next season so make sure you're subscribed.  And as you know leaving a review can help us to reach new audiences.   Northern Alberta Diaconal Conference: http://www.classisalbertanorth.ca/nadc Shane Claiborne: http://www.shaneclaiborne.com/ Red Letter Christians: https://www.redletterchristians.org/
01:19:21
December 10, 2021
Reflections for National Truth and Reconciliation Day | Season 3 Bonus
September 30th 2021 marks the first National Day of Truth and Reconciliation in Canada.  It coincides with Orange Shirt Day, a grassroots commemoration marked by the wearing of Orange Shirts for children forced to leave their families and attend residential schools. This reflection is designed to take approximately an hour and we recommend that you take space to listen and reflect.  You will be guided through three calls to action from the Truth and Reconciliation Commission with prayer and reflection prompts.   Engage in this podcast in the way that allows you to fully immerse yourself in this material: find time in the day when you can walk in solitude and listen, or enjoy a beautiful drive while you reflect. Curl up in your favourite chair to draw and journal while you connect with this podcast. Follow along in the written version at this link.  The reflection questions are also written there.  https://dojustice.crcna.org/article/reflections-national-truth-and-reconciliation-day We are thankful for the music in this episode created by Indigenous songwriters Cheryl Bear and Jonathan Maracle and used with permission.
43:19
September 22, 2021
It All Starts in A Garden: Joining God at Work in a Creation that Groans with Dr. Sylvia Keesmaat | Season 3 Ep. 6
In this episode, Dr. Sylvia Keesmaat shares the theological underpinnings that inspire the sustainable efforts and regenerative agriculture practices at Russet House Farm. She and Chris also discuss worshipping outside, eating locally, times of Sabbath and Jubilee, and caring for creation as we long for God’s ultimate goodness for our world and our neighbours. Show Notes: (Links) Transcript: https://dojustice.crcna.org/article/it-all-starts-garden-joining-god-work-creation-groans-dr-sylvia-keesmaat Eloheh Seeds (Giti-Okosomin Winter Squash): https://elohehseeds.com/store/p198/Giti-Okosomin_Winter_Squash_%28Maxima%29.html Russet House Farm: https://www.russethousefarm.ca/ Brian Walsh’s blog, Empire Remixed: https://empireremixed.com/ Colossians Remixed: https://www.ivpress.com/colossians-remixed Romans Disarmed: http://bakerpublishinggroup.com/books/romans-disarmed/321931
33:57
August 17, 2021
Putting Truth & Reconciliation into Action with Leah Gazan and Steve Henirichs | Season 3 Ep. 5
This episode two guests--Leah Gazan, Member of Parliament for Winnipeg Centre and Steve Heinrichs, Director of Indigenous-Settler Relations of Mennonite Church Canada-- join host Chris Orme. Leah and Steve share the story of how they connected, where their work both overlaps and is unique to their respective identities as indigenous and white settler, and ways folks can participate in enacting the resolutions established in the passing of United Nation Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples in Canada. Show Notes: Transcript: https://dojustice.crcna.org/article/putting-truth-reconciliation-action-leah-gazan-and-steve-henirichs  Leah Gazan on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/leahgazanmp/ Leah Gazan on Twitter: https://twitter.com/LeahGazan Indigenous - Settler Relations Mennonite Church Canada: https://www.mennonitechurch.ca/indigenous Unsettling the Word: Biblical Experiments in Decolonization:https://bookshop.org/books/unsettling-the-word-biblical-experiments-in-decolonization/9781626983113
36:50
August 10, 2021
Creating Reconciling Communities with David Bailey | Season 3 Ep 4
In this episode David Bailey, executive director of Arrabon, joins Chris Orme to talk about music, building cultural imagination toward reconciliation, and how to move from being a diverse church to being a reconciling church. Arrabon: https://arrabon.com/ Urban Doxology: http://www.urbandoxology.com/ Disability Advocacy: Turning Your Passion into Action - https://learn.faithward.org/courses/disability-advocacy-turning-your-passion-into-action Transcript:  https://dojustice.crcna.org/article/creating-reconciling-communities-david-bailey
34:52
August 03, 2021
Talking with Kids about Justice with Lisa Van Engen | Season 3 Ep. 3
Writer, teacher, and mother Lisa Van Engen joins us for this conversation on engaging kids in seeking justice. Lisa and Chris talk about how and when to talk with kids about justice, including the reality that many who are impacted don’t have the privilege of deciding ‘when.’ Lisa also shares stories about questions around racism and injustice that her students and children have raised, how they’ve talked together about issues that impact their neighbors and friends, and what kids can do to advocate. Show Notes:  About Proximity Blog: http://lisavanengen.com/  And Social Justice for All: https://bookshop.org/books/and-social-justice-for-all-empowering-families-churches-and-schools-to-make-a-difference-in-god-s-world/9780825445064 Transcript: https://dojustice.crcna.org/article/talking-kids-about-justice-lisa-van-engen
26:10
July 27, 2021
Resisting a Violent World with Dennae Pierre | Season 3 Ep. 2
In this episode, Chris asks Dennae how she’s seen the multi-ethnic churches she’s involved with respond in a season of spotlighted violence. They also reflect on a collection of prayers Dennae wrote in response, Healing Prayers and Meditations to Resist a Violent World, and how to keep moving intentionally toward God’s kingdom when it’s long and hard work. Show Notes:  Healing Prayers and Meditations to Resist a Violent World: https://www.restorativeleaders.com/  Surge Network: http://surgenetwork.com/ Transcript: https://dojustice.crcna.org/article/resisting-violent-world-dennae-pierre Instagram: @dennae.pierre
28:51
July 20, 2021
Advocacy: It’s More than Social Media with Mae Elise Cannon | Season 3 Ep. 1
Rev. Dr. Mae Elise Cannon, executive director of Churches for Middle East Peace, joins our host Chris Orme for the first episode of Season 3. Mae and Chris discuss different forms of advocacy, as well the spiritual formation that takes place through advocacy. Show Notes: Mae’s Website: maecannon.com Beyond Hashtag Activism: http://www.ivpress.com/beyond-hashtag-activism Hearts and Minds Bookstore http://www.heartsandmindsbooks.com Transcript: https://dojustice.crcna.org/article/advocacy-it%E2%80%99s-more-social-media-mae-elise-cannon
28:04
July 13, 2021
Making Peace with Nick Coates | Season 2 Ep. 6
Rev. Nick Coates joins our hosts to discuss the topic of peace.  Coates is a minister in Calgary Alberta.  He says, “My joy in life is helping people discover what it means to be human and alive in this world. That’s what I think Jesus is all about.”  We can't think of a better time than advent to share this episode with you. Here are the links referenced in this episode:  http://justice.crcna.org/advent-devotionals https://worldrenew.net/gift-catalog
42:34
December 08, 2020
Gender Justice with Julian Maturia and Cindy Stover | Season 2 Ep. 5
Julian Maturia and Cindy Stover join hosts Chris Orme and Vanessa Alvarez to discuss gender based violence.  What is our role as Christians, as church communities, as development and advocacy agencies in responding to this issue?  Note: This episode references female genital mutilation and may not be suitable for younger listeners. Get more information on the campaign Julian and Cindy mention at this link. For ways that you can advocate on this issue please check out our action centre. https://worldrenew.net/peaceandjustice https://p2a.co/CGfkxsh
40:23
November 24, 2020
Caring for Creation with Andrew Oppong | Season 2 Ep. 4
The Climate Witness Project is a joint effort between World Renew and the Office of Social Justice.  In this episode justice mobilization specialist Andrew Oppong says this on climate change, "Beyond caring for the earth there is such an intimate connection to caring for your neighbour, which is tied into our big commandment ".  Explore this idea with him and hosts Chris Orme and Vanessa Alvarez. Find out more and become a Climate Witness Project partner at this link.   http://justice.crcna.org/climate-witness-project
28:55
November 17, 2020
Creativity with Cheryl Nembhard and Drew Brown | Season 2 Ep. 3
What does it look like to bring creativity and the arts to racial justice?  Guests Cheryl Nembhard and Drew Brown discuss racism, hope, and responding to our times.  Hosts Chris Orme and Vanessa Alverez dig in with these guests to explore lament and the guest's creative processes. Check out Cheryl's work and podcast here or follow her @cherylnembhard. Connect with Drew's music and information here or follow him @DrewBrownMusic https://www.cherylnembhard.com/podcast http://www.drewbrownmusic.com/
46:30
November 10, 2020
Responding to International Disasters with Ken Kim | Season 2 Ep. 2
Ken Kim World Renew's Director of Disaster Response joins hosts Chris Orme and Vanessa Alvarez.  Kim discusses why responding to disasters is so important and reflects on the work being done in the aftermath of the Beirut explosion. For more information on World Renew's disaster response work go to this link.  For more information on the Canadian Foodgrains Bank and how you can help people in Beirut use these links.   https://worldrenew.net/international-disaster-response https://foodgrainsbank.ca/ https://worldrenew.net/news/how-you-can-help-those-in-beirut
31:37
November 03, 2020
Loving Our Immigrant Neighbors with Jason Leif | Season 2 Ep. 1
Hosts Chris Orme and Vanessa Alvarez talk with immigration mobilizer Jason Lief about immigration in the United States.  Lief is a professor at Northwestern College in practical theology.   In this conversation the three speakers discuss their connections to immigration and a Christian approach to immigration. More information on Blessing Not Burden.  For full length lectures from Dr. Lief check out our YouTube channel.   http://justice.crcna.org/blessing-not-burden https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL1ZmlNLrVHeFnO8fmcB9rKXxJ_N34WUJc
28:32
October 27, 2020
Intergenerational Action with Steve Mulder & Anneke Spoelma | Season 1 Ep. 5
In this intergenerational episode Kate Kooyman talks with Steve Mulder the Field Coordinator for the CRCNA’s Climate Witness Project and his granddaughter Anneke Spoelma a 15-year-old freshman at Grand Rapids Public Museum High School.  Anneke and Steve were part of a delegation sent by the Climate Witness Project to Kenya and Uganda to meet with World Renew personnel and the subsistence farmers they support.
24:54
August 04, 2020
The Long Journey with JJ TenClay (Part 2) | Season 1 Ep. 4
In part two of this interview Kate Kooyman and guest JJ TenClay discuss how to stay hopeful in justice work.  JJ spent four years in Italy as a missionary for the Reformed Church of America (RCA) working with migrants, refugees and asylum seekers.  She now serves as the Refugee Ministries Coordinator for RCA Global Missions.
14:31
July 28, 2020
Global Perspectives from JJ TenClay | Season 1 Ep. 3
In talking about her latest guest JJ TenClay host Kate Kooyman says, “From JJ... I was able to gain such a different perspective, a better perspective on the global-ness of the refugee situation around the world.”  What a great reason to listen to this episode of the Do Justice podcast!  JJ is the Refugee Ministries Coordinator for Reformed Church of America Global Missions.  
24:31
July 21, 2020
Chasing Justice with Sandra Maria Van Opstal | Season 1 Ep. 2
In this episode host Kate Kooyman calls Sandra Maria Van Opstal one of her “justice crushes.”  They dive right into conversation about worship and justice starting with Sandra’s book The Next Worship.  Besides writing books Sandra is the Executive Director and Co-Founder of Chasing Justice and the Preaching Pastor at Grace and Peace Church.
28:55
July 14, 2020
La Madrina Dr. Alexia Salvatierra | Season 1 Ep. 1
Host Kate Kooyman connects with guest Dr. Alexia Salvatierra from a coffee shop. You’ll hear background sounds as Kate and Alexia discuss Alexia’s long-term work for justice, especially in the area of immigration.  Alexia is an ordained pastor in the Evangelical Lutheran Church of America, and coauthor of the book Faith Rooted Organizing.
38:04
July 07, 2020
Get Excited!
What is this new podcast all about?  Hear from host Kate Kooyman about what to expect from the first season of Do Justice - the podcast!  Get more information about Do Justice here.
05:30
May 21, 2020