The Running Effect Podcast

Less than 400 people have ever completed the Transcontinental Run across the United States. 

Recently, Paul Johnson became one of those people, and one of the fastest to ever do it, completing the trek in 52 days and averaging 59 miles a day (yes, you read that right.)

Paul is passionate about inspiring others to get up, engage in physical activity, and find their own positive outlets. Paul discovered that military and veteran communities are particularly prone to struggles with mental health due to the nature of everything they do and experience, and because of this, Paul dedicated this trans con run to Team Red White & Blue. He raised over $590,000 for this important cause. 

In today's conversation, Paul takes me through his journey and progression within the sport, the logistics behind planning a trans con run, how he preserved despite wanting to throw in the towel every single morning, what's next, and so much more!

Man, was this conversation inspiring. One of the things that Paul shared with me that struck me was how, just a few years ago, he felt like his body was "literally going to fall apart running 30 miles a week," to then averaging 59 miles a day on this run. His story is one of dedication and the power of running for something bigger than yourself. 

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Today on "The Call Room: Road To Seattle" is the Patrick Hilby! 

If you're not familar with Patrick, he has run 11.03 (100m), 22.05 (200m), 48.11 (400m), 1:48.47 (800m), 4:10.10 (Mile) 9:44 (3200m), and 15:03 (3 mile XC). He's the New Balance Indoor National Champion in the 800m, and has run the 5th fastest indoor 800 of all time for a high schooler. 

Patrick is entered in the 800m at the 2024 Brooks PR meet, where he'll look to cement his name with a list of legends who have won this event in the past. The meet record might be up for grabs with how well Patrick is running. His range is second to none. 

Patrick is committed to run for the University of Wisconsin this Fall. 

You can catch Patrick aiming to make history in the 800m event at the 2024 Brooks PR Meet on June 12. 

In today's conversation, Patrick takes me through training through midwest winters, being a multi-sport athlete, his recent accomplishments on the track, committing to the University of Wisconsin, 

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Today's podcast is an exploration into the world of mental performance and simple practical ways in which you can improve it to ultimately improve yourself as a runner and in everyday life. We go through this exploration with the one and only Shannon Thompson, MAPP, NCCP. This conversation particularly centers around how to get the most out of your training and racing through simply mental performance skills that you can put to practice. 

Shannon is the mental performance counselor who works closely with NAU, NAZ Elite, UA Dark Sky Distance, and a plethora of top professional runners. As an athlete and a coach, Shannon has always been fascinated by the psychology of well-being and achievement. Her interest regarding the power of the mind to impact an athlete's performance and overall experience drove Shannon to complete an undergraduate degree in psychology, and then a Masters in Applied Positive Psychology from the University of Pennsylvania. 

In this conversation, Shannon. I am 100% confident that you'll learn new things about mental performance by listening to this episode and be able to implement easy practices into your daily routine that will help you become a better runner and version of yourself.

Through listening to this podcast episode, you'll walk about with practical tools on improving mental performance that you can directly apply today. 

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Today on the podcast is the unbelievably insightful and wise Milo McCloud! 

Milo is a man of many talents. 

Milo is the first person in history to compete in a Men's Physique Contest and run a marathon in the same day. Milo is also the Founder of the Revive Hybrid Society, which is one of the fastest-growing Hyrox's Community's, 

In today's conversation, Milo takes me through his athletic journey, when he first felt inspired to start creating content to impact the world, the power of honesty and vulnerability, his ambitions for the future, and so so much more!

This conversation really blessed me, and I learned a lot from Milo. I hope you'll take the time to be impacted and inspired by Milo. 

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Today on "The Call Room: Road To Seattle" is the Brooks NIL athlete, Shawnti Jackson! 

Shawnti is a freshman at The University of Arkansas, where she competes as a Track & Field athlete. 

Shawnti is originally from Creedmoor, North Carolina, and has achieved remarkable things in the sport thus far. She was named the 2023 USATF Youth Athlete of the Year and garnered significant accolades, including being voted International U20 Female Athlete of the Year by Athletics Weekly readers. Jackson's stellar season saw her securing three All-America honors from Track & Field News in the 100m (No. 1), 200m (No. 2), and 400m (No. 4) categories nationally.

Notably, she set a national high school record in the 100m with an unbelievable 10.89 victory at the Music City Track Carnival, Nashville, among professional sprinters. Her exceptional performances extended to setting multiple national records during the indoor season and anchoring the U.S. 4 x 100m relay team to an American Junior record at the U20 Pan Am Championships in Puerto Rico. 

In today's conversation, Shawnti takes me through her journey in sport, being coached by her dad, her incredible performances on the track from National Records to National Championships, her experiences at Brooks PR meets, her NIL Deal with Brooks, and so much more. 

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Today on "The Call Room: Road To Seattle" is the legendary Ali Ince!

Ali has been dominant since stepping onto the track as a freshman in high school. Just at the Brooks PR meet alone, she's won THREE YEARS IN A ROW. She'll look to make history as she goes for a fourth title this June 12, being the first athlete in history to win an event four years in a row. 

She's run 54.91 (400m), 2:03.17 (800m), 4:37.98 (1600m), and 16:58 (3-mile XC). She's an eight-time state champion, the Illinois 800m record holder, the IHSA 1600 State Meet Record Holder, the 2022 Illinois Track Gatorade Player of the Year, and a 2xArcadia & NBNI 800m Champion.

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She recently opened up her season and ran the prestigious Arcadia Invitational, where she won the 800m in a time of 2:05.26. 

Part of Ali's story that makes her unique is she's played basketball all four years of high school at a high level in addition to successful indoor track seasons. 

Ali is committed to run for The University of Oregon next year, where she'll be a significant contributor to their program. 

In today's conversation, Ali takes me through her success in high school, her three wins in a row at Brooks PR, her decision to play basketball and track at the same time, her ambitions for her final year of HS, and so much more!

This was an awesome opportunity to learn from one of the greatest 800m high school girls in the history of the sport. Don't miss this one! 

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Back on the podcast for her third appearance is the wise Vanessa Fraser! 

A lot has happened in the past year for Vanessa and we break it all down in today's conversation. 

Many professional runners talk about the importance of vulnerability in sharing the tougher moments of their careers, but very, very few do it. Vanessa is one of the few I know who is completely open about her full journey, and that always makes our conversations so insightful. 

If you're not familiar with Vanessa, she holds PRs of 4:09 in the 1500m, 14:48 in the 5k, and 31:52 in the 10k. In college, she was one of the most storied runners in Stanford history, where she was a 7xAll-American, and her school record of 15:09 in the 5k still stands. 

Vanessa currently runs for Saucony and Team BOSS. 

In today's conversation, we discuss the brutal realities of running at a high level, the ups and downs of Vanessa's career, her new deal with Saucony, her ambitions for the future, and much more!

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Today on the podcast is Julian Florez, Assistant Coach of the Brooks Beasts Track Club. 

Coach Florez began running at the age of thirteen, eventually becoming a first-generation student-athlete at Adams State University, where he was part of a NCAA DII national championship team. He then competed for University of New Mexico, earning All-American honors.

After graduating, he moved up in distance, eventually qualifying for and participating in the 2020 US Olympic Marathon Trials. Coach Florez also works as an artist, using the world around him to inspire his work with line and color.

This man does it all. Coach, pace, support, and everything in-between. 

I loved this conversation with one of the up-and-coming coaches in the sport. Julian is a great guy who is full of wisdom and exuberance. 

Tune into today's conversation to hear what it takes to truly be world class and the behind the scenes of one of the best track clubs in the world. 

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Today on "The Call Room: Road To Seattle" is the most underrated boy in the country, Riley Smith. 

Y'all ask, we deliver. After months of requests to get this guy on, we're making it happen. 

I'm going to be honest, I hadn't heard Riley's name until a few months ago, but already in the first few weeks of the track season, he's made a name for himself and is looking to shock some people in the months to come.

He's undefeated this indoor and outdoor season and is looking to continue that streak. 

His progress in the sport has been monumental. His best 5k his junior year of HS was 17:52, not even qualifying for the state meet. A year later, he won the whole thing and ran 14:57. 

So far this season, Riley has run 8:39 in the 3200m and 1:50 in the 800m. The scary thing is that 3200m was Riley's second-ever attempt at a distance. As you'll hear in our conversation today, Riley knows he can go sub 8:30 this year. 

Riley will be going to his first Brooks PR Meet in 2024 and is currently deciding between the Mile/2-Mile. Whichever event he chooses, he's looking to surprise some people and turn some heads.  

In today's conversation, Riley shares his remarkable story in sport, how he's gotten good so fast, being the underdog, letting the doubters fuel him, his ambitions for his final year of HS, what he wants to do at Brooks, some of his most insane workouts, and much more! 

This is an awesome opportunity to look into the mind of a kid who's name you'll hear a lot of in the months and years to come. 

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Today on the podcast is the one and only Tommie Runz!

"Tommie Runz" was born in New York in August 1984. Growing up, Tommie was raised in Detroit and Southfield, Michigan. In 1993, at the age of 8, he lost his father to a stroke, leaving his mother with the burden of raising him and his sister alone. Tommie's mother made things work and raised them in a loving and hardworking home. However the pain, heartache and trauma of losing his father made way for the inability to comprehend his emotions as a young man. At 17, he took his first drink and found the relief he was searching for in alcohol. The lack of healing in Tommie's life created the perfect recipe for bad decisions, seemingly one after the other.

On January 11, 2017 he chose a life of sobriety. This is when Tommie's journey into fitness and health began. His new found sense of freedom, control, and wellbeing ultimately led Tommie to try veganism in February 2018. A few months later, his running journey began when he was challenged to run the Rock-n-Roll Half Marathon in Chicago. To this day, sobriety, veganism and mindfulness play a vital role in who he is as a human and a runner.

Since his introduction into running in 2018, Tommie has established and solidified a community of individuals who share the same passion in running, mindfulness, and self-improvement. He created and founded Chip Time Running to disrupt the current status quo in the running industry; began a podcast and live show, The Run Eat Sleep Show; and launched the PR Project on YouTube, where he sits as co-host. In April 2021, he qualified for the Boston Marathon with a chip time of 2:48:43. 

In today's conversation, Tommie takes me through his incredible story from the start to the present day. We dicuss the different elements of his story and how he's using it to impact lives around the world. I really loved this conversation!

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Today on the podcast is the Founder & CEO of Soul Focus Sports & Run Local Ventures, JT Service. 

JT is one of the kindest and most fired-up individuals I've ever met. I've had the privilege of working with him at a few events last year, and this guy is next level. 

Soul Focus specializes in event production and experiential for numerous clients as well as developing our proprietary Run Local Event Series. Current event clients include the San Francisco Giants, Under Armour, HOKA, Global Genes, Cumulus Media, JP Morgan Chase, and others. 

JT was also a fantastic runner back in the day and has made the US Olympic Marathon Trials. 

In today's conversation, JT takes me through his day-to-day life, what it's like expanding a business, how he's grown Soul Focus so much over the years, the importance of a morning routine, his years as an extremely successful runner, and much more!

I absolutely loved this conversation and grew a lot from it. Take the time to be blessed by JT's words. 

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Today on the podcast are two of the greatest coaches in NCAA History, Coach Chris Miltenberg & Coach Mike Smith. 

Coach Chris Miltenberg is the Director of Cross Country and Track & Field at University Of North Carolina. 

Coach Mike Smith is the Director of Cross Country and Track & Field at Northern Arizona University. During his tenure at NAU, Coach Smith has earned 23 Big Sky Coach of the Year awards, 5 Chick Hislop Awards for USTFCCCA Mountain Region Men's Cross Country Coach of the Year, 5 USTFCCCA Mountain Region Coach of the Year awards, 4 Bill Dellinger Awards for the National Men's Cross Country Coach of the Year, and 1 USTFCCCA National Men's Indoor Track & Field Coach of the Year awards. He's coached so many legends over the years including Luis Grijalva, Abdi Nur, Geordie Beamish, Nico Young, and many others. 

Coach Chris Miltenberg is the Director of Cross Country and Track & Field at The University of North Carolina. Under his leadership, UNC's teams achieved significant milestones, qualifying for the NCAA Cross Country Championships and earning high ACC finishes. Coach Milt's athletes consistently earned All-America honors and excelled at NCAA Championships. During his tenure at Stanford, the teams secured ten podium finishes in NCAA Championship competitions, with the men's track and field/cross country program winning the John McDonnell Division I Program of the Year in 2019. His coaching prowess was evident as he led the women's cross-country team at Georgetown University to a national championship in 2011. 

In today's conversation, Coach Milt & Smith discuss their friendship, being roommates in college, lessons learned from their college coach, Coach Patrick Henner, how they help each other in the day-to-day, and so much more!

This conversation was truly legendary and such a privilege to have. I hope you all take the time to listen and be enlightened by two legends of the sport!

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Today on the podcast are the fastest twins in the country, Olivia & Andrea Markezich! 

Olivia placed 3rd at the 2023 NCAA XC Championships in Charlotte, Virginia, a few months ago. That incredible performance led her team to a 4th place finish! This was also one week after coming down with sickness. A few week short weeks later, she opened up the indoor season with a time of 8:40.42 in the 3k, breaking her own school record which was previously set last season as she ran an 8:50.08. Her time of 8:40.42 also ranks #2 all-time! Last year, Olivia won the 3000M steeplechase at the 2023 NCAA Championships with a remarkable time of 9:25.03, setting a facility record at the University of Texas. Olivia also signed an NIL Deal with On last year.

Today on the podcast is Owen Slacker!

Olin opened up his 2024 season with a new PB at 5,000 meters (13:08.76) indoors at the BU Terrier Classic. A month later he ran a fantastic race to finish second at the USATF Indoor Championships over 3,000 meters, earning a spot on Team USA at the World Indoor Championships. At Worlds, he ran valiantly over the final two laps…eventually finishing in fifth place.

Olin ran for the University of Wisconsin, where he earned an undergraduate degree in biology and a graduate degree in kinesiology while achieving notable personal bests in the mile (3:56.66), 3,000 meters (7:45.73), and 5,000 meters (13:19.34). His crowning achievement came in his senior year with a dramatic victory in the 5,000 meters at the NCAA Championships. In 2022, he turned professional and joined HOKA NAZ Elite. 

In today's conversation, Olin takes me through his past few months of running and racing, his takes on Nico Young, Jakob vs. Josh, why college kids are running so fast, his plans for the outdoor season, and much more!

Anytime I get Olin on the podcast is a good time. This episode was that and then some!

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Today on the podcast is the Director of Cross Country and Track & Field at the University of Toledo, Coach Andrea Grove-McDonough!

Under the leadership of Coach McDonough, the Toledo cross country teams have achieved remarkable success, securing consecutive Mid-American Conference Women’s Cross Country titles in 2021, 2022, 2023 and notable individual accolades. The 2022 women’s team notably climbed to the No. 16 spot in the USTFCCCA National Coaches Poll. Additionally, the men’s team has claimed consecutive runner-up finishes at the MAC Men’s Cross Country Championship meets in 2021, 2022, and 2023. Beyond cross country, Coach McDonough's impact extends to track and field, where her athletes have excelled both domestically and internationally. Her coaching prowess has been recognized with numerous Coach of the Year awards throughout her career. Prior to Toledo, she spent time at UNC, Iowa State, and UConn. 

Prior to becoming a coach, she was a two-time national titlist, winning the 2008 Canadian Olympic Trials in the 10,000 meters. She ran professionally for 12 years and was a seven-time Canadian National Team member. 

In today's conversation, Coach McDonough takes me through her journey as an athlete and coach, how she flipped around the Toledo program, how she recruits the top kids in the country (and sometimes out of the country), her ambitions for the program, and much more!

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Today on the podcast is the one and only Kristen Holmes! This conversation was a true privilege to have. 

Kristen is the Global Head of Human Performance & Principal Scientist at WHOOP. 

Kristen is a psycho-physiologist whose research is focused on testing sleep, circadian, recovery, and training behaviors and how they might impact measures of physiological and/or psychological resilience. She helps individuals and teams operating in high-stress, high-stakes environments and understand and use physiological and psychological insights to accelerate learning associated with self-regulation and human flourishing.

Kristen was an extremely accomplished athlete herself. She was a 2021 Hall Fame Inductee at Iowa, a 3x All-American, and a 2 x Big 10 Athlete of the Year while competing in both Field Hockey and Basketball. She was a 7-year member of the U.S. National Field Hockey Team and one of the most successful coaches in Ivy League history, having won 12 league titles in 13 seasons and a National Championship at Princeton University.

In today's conversation, Kristen takes me through her impressive athletic career at The University of Iowa, how that career fueled her current pursuits, 

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Today on the podcast is Coach Chris Neal!

Coach Neal is currently an Assistant Track & Field and Cross Country Coach at The University of Notre Dame. He leads the Men's program. 

Before Notre Dame, Coach Neal y coached ten NCAA Cross Country Championship team qualifiers with four top-15 finishes. He has also coached his teams to 18 Southern Conference Team Cross Country titles, nine men titles and nine women’s titles. In 2017, Neal coached the Furman program to be the NCAA Cross Country Southeast Regional Team Champions. 

In his time at Furman, Coach Neal led 133 individuals to All-Southern Conference Cross Country honors. There were also 47 student-athletes named USTFCCCA All-Regional Cross Country, and 20 NCAA All-Americans. He also coached athletes to break 30 school records.

During his tenure, Coach Neal coached 56 student-athletes to NCAA Track and Field first-round qualifiers and 28 individual NCAA Track and Field Finals qualifiers. Included in those qualifiers is Allie Buchalski, the NCAA 2nd place finisher in the 5,000m Championship in 2018, and Aaron Templeton, the 5th place finisher at NCAA Cross Country Championships in 2018.

Prior to his time at Furman, Neal spent 2008-2012 at Ohio State as the Head Women’s Cross Country Coach and Assistant Track and Field Coach. The Buckeyes were the 2011 and 2012 Outdoor Track & Field Big 10 Champions, and for the first time in school history claimed the Big 10 title for the Indoor Track & Field Championships. Also a first for Ohio State was when Neal coached the team in 2009 to qualify for the NCAA Cross Country Championships.

At Ohio State, Coach Neal coached four individuals to qualify for the NCAA Cross Country Championships. Eight student-athletes earned USTFCCCA All-Region honors in that time. Coach Neal also coached 36 student-athletes to make the Top-5 All-Time List.

Coach Neal's career has also included stops at Tulane University, where he was the Head Women’s Cross Country/Assistant Track and Field Coach, and the University of New Orleans, where he was the Head Cross Country/Assistant Track and Field Coach. 

A 2003 Eastern Kentucky University graduate, Neal earned a Bachelor of Science in Physical Education and then went on to obtain a Master of Arts in Sport Administration from Ball State University in 2005.

In today's conversation, Coach Neal takes me through his journey in sport, his principles of coaching, how he recruits the right people to his program, and much more! I thoroughly enjoyed my conversation with Coach Neal and hope you take the time to listen. 

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CONNOR BURNS & SIMEON BIRNBAUM RETURN TO THE PODCAST

You ask, we deliver. 

After months of requests to get the villains back on the podcast, we came through. 

Connor Burns & Simeon Birnbaum were two of the greatest high school runners of all-time and graduted high school this past spring. Both broke the 4-minute mile barrier, and set countless state records, and in Connor's case a National Record in the 5k by running 13:37. Simeon had one of the greatest seasons ever by a high schooler breaking record after record and turning heads with every race. 

Both run for The University of Oregon and are currently true Freshman. 

Around this time last year, we launched The Call Room with them, which was not only widely successful, but also incredibly fun and entertaining. Anytime they come on a podcast, it's a blast and turns some heads with hilarious takes. 

In today's episode, Connor and Simeon recap their freshman year thus far, both on and off the track. This is a podcast for the books. 

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Today on the podcast is the Director of Strength & Conditioning at the Univerisity of Charlotte, Lew Caralla. 

He's perhaps best known for his viral practice speeches to his teams over the years that have amassed hundreds of millions of views. He made a book out of some of the principles he talks about called "Fire Lighters 365."

Before his current role, Caralla was Buffalo's Head Strength and Conditioning Coach in 2018, following stints as Director of Strength and Conditioning at Louisiana-Lafayette (2016-17) and North Texas (2015). He was named Football Scoop's 2018 Strength Coach of the Year during his time at Buffalo.

He served as an Assistant Strength and Conditioning Coach at Michigan for three years (2012-14), at Mississippi State for one (2011), and at Georgia Tech. His career began with an internship at South Florida in 2007. He was an intern at Virginia in 2008 and became a graduate assistant at Mississippi State in 2009-10.

Originally from Tarpon Springs, Fla., Caralla graduated with a bachelor's degree in wellness and corporate fitness from Defiance (Ohio) in 2008. He was a two-time all-conference running back and also earned academic all-conference accolades twice. He received a master's degree in kinesiology from Mississippi State in 2010. 

In today's conversation, Lew discusses what it takes to be great, what separates the good from the great, lessons from working with NFL legends, his journey in sport, and so much more! This conversation will get you fired up and ready to attack whatever task is at hand. 

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Today on the podcast is Head Coach of HOKA NAZ Elite Jack Mullaney. 

Born and raised in Eagan, Minn., Jack stayed in state and attended the University of Minnesota, where he spent time as a student assistant for the Gopher athletics program. After graduating in 2014 with a Bachelor’s degree in Finance, he spent a brief time in the financial world before returning to Minnesota to pursue his passion for coaching. His journey began in sports administration, serving as the operations assistant for the University of Minnesota’s track & field and cross-country programs during the 2015/2016 school year. He moved on to Utah State in the fall of 2016, where he spent a year as the Director of Operations for the Aggies, organizing both the 2016 NCAA Cross Country Mountain Regional and 2017 Mountain West Outdoor Track & Field Championships.

In 2017, he was finally given a chance to enter the coaching world when he was hired on as the assistant cross country and track and field coach at the University of Portland. For the next seven years, Jack was a key staff member for the successful Pilots distance program, working with men’s coach Rob Conner and women’s coach Ian Solof. During his time at the U of P, he went back to school and earned a Master’s of Science in Sport Management from West Virginia University in 2021. He is also a Certified Strength & Conditioning Coach (CSCS) and a USATF Level 3 Coach.

While at Portland, Jack helped lead the men to two podium finishes at the NCAA Cross Country Championships and the women to their highest-ever finish in program history. The recruiting coordinator for both programs, Jack helped bring top athletes to Portland from across the United States and abroad. He also worked with multiple Portland athletes after they graduated including France’s Emmanuel Roudolff-Lévisse who represented his country at the 2022 European Championships. 

In today's conversation, Jack takes me through his journey as an athlete and coach, lessons he's learned over the years, what it's been like working with NAZ Elite thus far, future ambitions, and so much more!

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Back on the podcast is one of the fastest high school girl milers of all time, Sadie Engelhardt!

This past weekend, Sadie won the 2024 New Balance National Indoor Mile title by running a meet record of 4:36.36. She also recently commited to run for NC State in 2025 after she graduates high school.

If you're not familiar with Sadie, she has run 2:05.66 (800m), 2:41 (1k), 4:11.79 (1500m), 4:34.45 (Mile), and 9:50.69 (3200m). She was the California Girls Gatorade player of the year for both Track and XC, won the 800/1600 double at her state meet in California, and is 3xNew Balance National Championship Mile winner. 

In today's conversation, Sadie goes through her past year of running, recent results, her ambitions for this year, signing an NIL deal, and so much more!

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Today on the podcast is Habtamu Cheney!

Habtamu holds PRs of 63:19 in the Half-Marathon and 2:15:43 in the Marathon. He most recently placed 22nd at the 2024 Olympic Marathon Trials and last year 19th at the 2023 10k USATF Championships.

In college, he ran for Utah Valley, where he significantly contributed to the success of the program. Prior to his time there, he attended Desert Vista High School in Phoenix, where he held PRs of 4:14 (1600m) and 9:10 (3200m).

In today's conversation, Habtamu takes me through his training, journey, 22nd place at the trials, social media, and much more! In my opinion, he has one of the best up-and-coming stories in the sport, so I wanted to make this episode before his rise to the top. I hope you all enjoy this one as much as we did having it! 

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Today on the podcast is one of the assistant coaches at The University of Tennesee, Coach Judy Pendergast! 

Coach Judy Pendergast began her first season coaching on Rocky Top in 2023-24 after spending a year on the coaching staff at Harvard.

While at Harvard, Judy assisted in coaching the Men’s and Women’s middle distance and distance runners to one of their best years in school history. She assisted in the development of two cross-country All-Americans, ten total individual conference champions, three indoor NCAA championship qualifiers, and twelve outdoor NCAA first-round qualifiers.

Judy graduated from Harvard College in 2022 with a degree in Psychology. She was captain of the Harvard Cross Country team in 2021, where she helped lead the team to an Ivy League conference title, an NCAA Northeast Region first-place finish, and the women’s program’s best NCAA championship finish in modern history. In her Harvard career, she was a conference champion in the indoor 5,000 meters, an NCAA Indoor Finalist for the 5,000 meters, a three-time NCAA Cross Country Championships participant with the team, and the former Harvard Outdoor 5,000 meter record holder with a time of 15:58.54.

In today's conversation, Judy takes me through her career, both as an athlete and coach. I loved every minute of this one and am confident you'll find immense value in it!

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Today on the podcast is 2xNCAA Champion & National-Record Holder, Maia Ramsden! 

This conversation was recorded the week leading into the NCAA Championship Mile, so it's very fun looking back on this conversation and hearing what Maia's mindset was leading into the race where she won in a meet record time of 4:25.13.

If you don't know who Maia is (you're probably living under a rock), she runs for Harvard and has been on a tear recently. Last weekend, she placed 10th in the Women's 1500m at the 2024 World Indoor Championships in Scotland while representing New Zealand. This season, she also ran 4:24.83, becoming the second-fastest female indoor miler of all time and taking down a 10-year-old Ivy League Record. She is also the Harvard record holder in the 1500m, 5000m, and Indoor Mile. Before Harvard, Maia won U20 national titles in the 1500m and 800m. 

On the grass, Maia placed 11th at NCAA's in 2022 and in 2023 eclipsed that former result by placing 10th in the country. 

Last year, Maia signed an NIL deal with On. 

In today's conversation, Maia goes through her recent success, the World Championships, her mindset going into NCAA's this weekend, how she's handled all the recent success, balancing academics and athletics, her reflections on her final year at Harvard, and much more! 

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Today on the podcast is the newly announced assistant coach of the Bowerman Track Club, Alex Ostberg. 

For some background, Alex Ostberg is a seven-time All-American who holds PRs of 3:58 in the Mile, 7:49 in the 3k, and 13:18 in the 5k. He has a Bachelor's Degree in human biology, a minor in psychology, and a master's in public health. Alex graduated from Stanford before getting his masters from the University of North Carolina.

Alex recently accepted a position as an Assistant Coach at Nike's Bowerman Track Club. 

In today's conversation, Alex recaps his journey to get to this point, the mentors who have propelled him to this position, his ambitions with the team, how he got the job, and so much more! 

Listen to this conversation to be inspired by Alex's journey and all he's done to get to this opportunity. 

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Today on the podcast is the man with debatably the best name in running, Anthony Fasthorse! 

Anthony holds PRs of 1:55 (800m), 4:08 (1600m), 8:51 (3200m), 13:48 (3-Mile XC), and 14:32 (5k XC). He is committed to run for The University of Oregon this Fall. 

In today's conversation, Anthony takes me through his journey in sport, handling injuries, committing to Oregon, his goals and ambitions for this spring, and much more. 

Anthony is one of the biggest up-and-coming high schoolers in the country, and I hope you all take the time to be inspired by his story and ambitions! 

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Back on the podcast is Imogen Barrett! 

Imogen recently signed with OAC Oceania last year after graduating from The University of Flordia.  

While at Flordia, Imogen has achieved remarkable times, including an indoor 800m time of 2:01.23 and an outdoor 800m time of 2:00.96. She also holds an impressive mile time of 4:38.12 indoors and a 1500m time of 4:14.55 outdoors. Her accomplishments have earned her numerous accolades, such as being crowned the 2022 and 2019 SEC Outdoor Champion in the 800m and 1500m, respectively. Imogen has also received USTFCCCA All-America honors, including Second Team recognition in both the 2023 indoor and outdoor seasons for the 800m. Her achievements extend beyond individual events, as she has been an integral part of the Florida Gators' success, contributing to their victories in NCAA championships. Imogen's performances have also earned her a spot on the UF All-Time Top 10 list in various events. 

In today's conversation, Imogen takes me through her first year as a pro-runner, graduating from Flordia, her ambitions for 2024, what it's like living in Australia, why she doesn't like to set goals, and so much more! 

Anytime I get Imogen on the podcast, it is always a good time. This one is perfect for your weekend runs! 

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Today on the podcast is the Founder & CEO of PILLAR Performance and former professional athlete, Damien Fitzpatrick. 

PILLAR Performance is solving problems for athletes. In July 2021, they launched the first range of globally leading micronutrition products targeted for those seeking performance outcomes. 

In today's conversation, Damien goes through his years as his professional athlete, the process of starting a company, lessons learned along the way, and much more! 

If you're curious about the journey of an entrepreneur, this episode is for you! 

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Today on the podcast is Brooks Bash! 

Brooks is an athlete, entrepreneur, and founder of Earthy, a company revolutionizing sustainable energy for athletes. 

Brooks is currently in the midst of raising capital for his company, and until he hits his goal, he's doing a marathon a day... He was on day 88 when I spoke to him. Some days have been around LA, others in the Apple Vision Pro or on a treadmill in the back of a van while his wife drives (yes, he's insane). 

A lot of our conversation centers around this incredible feat; he shares all sorts of tales from this challenge and the ways in which it's tested and grown him. 

Brooks has also run from Canada to Mexico and is currently preparing for "The Speed Project," one of the most exciting events where people run from LA to Las Vegas. 

Today's conversation was an absolute blast; I enjoyed talking with Brooks and chopping it up on his journey through life and this current chapter. This is a really fun conversation that is perfect for your next run or adventure. 

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Today's podcast is one of the most moving episodes we've ever released. 

I have the extreme privilege of sharing the story of Kallup McCoy II. From the age of 11, Kallup started his battle with drug addiction, which led to overdosing on heroin six times and time in prison. From a life that lacked purpose and was full of pain, Kallup struggled to find meaning in life. 

In today's conversation, Kallup shares his remarkable story in full. From getting into addiction at the age of 11 to running the trail of tears after he got out of jail to all the ways he's giving back to his community presently.

This is one of the most moving podcasts I've ever recorded. Kallup's story is one of redemption, and I know it will touch you in powerful ways. Sincerely, take the time to listen to it. 

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Today on the podcast is Ryan "Plop" Johnson! 

Ryan graduated from The United States Air Force Academy last spring. Ryan currently serves as a 2nd Lieutenant in The United States Air Force in Colorado Springs. During his years at the academy, Ryan contributed greatly to the program both through his leadership and performances, leading them to top finishes at the NCAA meets. Most notably, in 2022, Ryan was an NCAA XC All-American, placing 28th. 

Ryan holds PRs of 8:00 (3k), 13:45 (5k), 28:20 (10k), and recently ran 62:31 at the 2024 Houston Half-Marathon where he beat Galen Rupp. 

In today's conversation, Ryan takes me through life as a 2nd Lieutenant, the balance of working and training, his years at the academy, the culture of AFXC, his future ambitions in the sport, why he runs, and so much more!

I loved this one. Ryan was super open about his journey and what goes into his life, making today's conversation super intriguing and inspiring. I hope you all enjoy it as much as we did having it!

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Today on the podcast is Adrian Wildschutt! 

Adrian, hailing from Ceres, South Africa, is a standout long-distance runner with a remarkable list of accomplishments. After joining HOKA NAZ Elite in 2022, he swiftly made his mark on the global stage, competing in prestigious events such as the World Athletics Championships and the Commonwealth Games, achieving a notable fifth place. Adrian's journey started at Coastal Carolina University, under the guidance of fellow South African and former world record holder Zola (Budd) Pieterse, before he transferred to Florida State University during the COVID-19 pandemic, where he not only excelled in athletics but also completed his Masters degree. Setting numerous South African national records in events ranging from the 3k to the 10k, Adrian has proven his prowess as a long-distance runner. His collegiate career was equally impressive, securing victories at the Sun Belt Conference Championship and three ACC titles. Adrian's consistent success, from the NCAA Championships to representing South Africa in international competitions, underscores his status as an exceptional athlete poised for further achievements in the world of track and field.

Adrian most recently ran 12:56 in the 5k, a new NR, which was a win over an incredibly deep field. 

In today's conversation, Adrian and I go through his story, from growing up in South Africa to his most recent performance of 12:56 in the 5k. We dive into his journey and future ambitions. Don't miss this conversation! 

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Today on the podcast is Jessica McClain!

Jess is the alternate for the US Olympic Marathon Team. She placed 4th in stunning fashion at the 2024 US Olympic Marathon Trials running 2:25:46, a personal best by nearly four minutes.

If you're not familiar with Jess, she was a 7-time All-American while representing Stanford University, and prior to that Jess Tonn qualified all four years for the ⁠Foot Locker Cross Country Championships⁠ for ⁠Xavier College Preparatory⁠. Jess won 14 individual state titles, two in ⁠cross country⁠ and 12 in ⁠Track and Field⁠ in ⁠Arizona Interscholastic Association⁠. Bottom line, Jess has been at the top of her game at every stage of her carrer.

Jess also very successfully holds a full-time job and gives back through working with a Non-Profit in her community.

In today's conversation, Jess goes through her day-to-day life, the build into the trials, her future ambitions in and out of sport, and so much more! This conversation was a gem, and I hope you'll take the time to listen to it.

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Today on the podcast is a man who is a leader in his field of work and making the best in the world even better. 

His name is Paul Mackinnon, and he's known for working with athletes like Galen Rupp and many BTC athletes.  

For some background on Paul, he lived a sporting life as a semi-professional hockey player for 15 years, playing in Australia and Europe, allowing him access to high-performance programs, athletes, and coaches around the world. Since retiring, he has developed The Balanced Runner coaching business to help athletes. The philosophy was developed largely by Lex Anderson in Canberra and further refined by Paul over close to a decade of practicing as a professional running technique coach. 

In today's episode, we go through Paul's work and answer some of the most commonly asked questions in regard to running form and biomechanics. 

This episode was awesome, and a privilege to pick the brain of someone who is stellar in their field of work.

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Today on the podcast is accomplished Heptathlete Erin Marsh! 

If you're not familiar with Erin, she is a highly accomplished and versatile track and field athlete known for her exceptional performances in various multi-event competitions. A graduate student during the 2021-22 season at Duke University, Erin consistently achieved remarkable success in both indoor and outdoor track and field. She has earned numerous accolades, including being a 2021 NCAA Bronze Medalist in the Pentathlon (Indoor), a 2020 USTFCCCA All-American in the Pentathlon (Indoor), and a 2021 ACC Silver Medalist in the Heptathlon (Outdoor). Erin's achievements extend to breaking her own school records, winning ACC Championships, and earning All-America honors. In the 2021-22 season, she demonstrated her prowess by finishing third in the Heptathlon at the NCAA Championships, setting personal bests, and claiming victories in events like the 100m hurdles and 200m. Erin's dedication to excellence is further highlighted by her academic achievements, earning spots on the All-ACC Academic Team. 

In today's episode, Erin goes through the dedication it takes to succeed at the Heptathlon, her journey in sport, her years at Duke, balancing academics and athletics at a place like Duke, her mindset shift for 2024, and so much more!

I absolutely loved this conversation with Erin and found a lot of value from it. I hope you all enjoy it as much as we did having it! 

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Back on the podcast is the newest Sub 4 kid, JoJo Jourdon!

On February 3rd, he won the 2024 New Balance Grand Prix in a time of 3:59.87. JoJo became the first Utah high school runner to break the four-minute mile barrier.

JoJo was the 2023 Men's NXN Champion and won in stunning fashion. He came out of the mud on top and that was just the start. He's also run 1:55.55 in the 800m and 8:46.87 in the 2-Mile. Lastly, he won the 2023 Utah 5A XC State Champ, 2023. 

JoJo is committed to run for Wake Forest this upcoming Fall where he'll join a Rockey Hansen who also broke four minutes in the mile as a high schooler last year.

In today's conversation, we recap his historic race, not winning Gatorade state or national player of the year, his training leading into the race, his amibtions for the rest of the year, and so much more!

Don't miss this one. 

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Today on the podcast is the one and only Carrie Tollefson! 

Carrie was born and raised in Dawson, Minnesota, where she was a 13-time State Champion: eight in track and five in cross country. Her five cross-country titles established a national record for most consecutive titles, which still stands to this day. Carrie attended Villanova University, where she was a 5-time NCAA Champion and the 1998 NCAA Indoor Track Athlete of the year. She was also the first person in NCAA history to win both the 3K and 5K titles.

In her post-collegiate career, she was a three-time national champion, and after winning the 1500m trials in 2004, she represented the US in the 2004 Olympic Games in Athens, Greece.

Carrie has worked on-camera with ESPN, NBC, NBCSN, ABC, and USATF.tv. She does regular media coverage for the New York Road Runners, including the TCS NYC Marathon and the United Airlines NYC Half Marathon. Carrie has done commentary for several world-class events, including the Medtronic Twin Cities Marathon, Boston Marathon, Tokyo Marathon, and Foot Locker Nationals. 

In today's conversation, Carrie walks me through her coverage of the sport, what it's like being in the booth, her incredible athletic career, how she was able to be so successful at every stage of her career, qualities of the most successful athletes, and so much more!

I loved this one; it was a really fun discussion, and I'm confident you'll thoroughly enjoy and find value in it!

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Today on the podcast is NCAA Champion & Record Holder Leo Neugebauer!

If you're not familiar with him, Leo is a standout track and field athlete with an impressive list of accomplishments. As a four-time USTFCCCA All-American and two-time Big 12 Champion, Leo has consistently excelled in various events, from decathlon to heptathlon. Notable achievements include his 2023 NCAA Decathlon Championship win with a record-breaking score, as well as his numerous NCAA All-American recognitions. Throughout his collegiate career, Leo has continuously pushed his limits, setting personal bests in multiple disciplines, including shot put, pole vault, and hurdles. His talent extends beyond collegiate competitions, as evidenced by his representation of Germany in international events like the World Championships. Leo's dedication and skill have solidified his place as one of the top athletes in collegiate track and field. 

Leo is also a content creator documenting his process in the sport and has quickly gained traction with hundreds of thousands of followers. 

In today's conversation, Leo and I go through his story in the sport, representing his home country of Germany on the World Stage, his journey to get to where he is today, his ambitions for this year, and so much more! 

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A short little part of my podcast from Conner that aired two weeks ago.

Conner runs for NIKE and runs distances from the 1500m to Marathon. He is currently intently training for the 2024 US Olympic Marathon Trials, which will take place on February 3rd in Orlando, Flordia. 

Previous to his professional running career, he competed for BYU, where he was a multiple-time NCAA Champion and debatably the greatest runner to ever come out of that program. 

Conner holds PRs of 1:46.99 in the 800m, 3:36.29 in the 1500m, and 3:52.76 in the Mile. 

In today's conversation, Conner and I discuss NCAA athletes running fast at altitude, his recent training, closing a workout in a 4:09 mile, being mentored by Jared Ward, his thoughts on the trials, and so much more!

Anytime I get to sit down with Conner is a good time. I loved getting a look inside his process as he goes into one of the biggest races of his life. 

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Fresh off of nailing the Olympic Standard in the 5k, Ben Flanagan returns to the podcast!

If you're not familiar with Ben, he has slowly cemented himself as one of the best Canadian runners of all time in his few short years of being a professional runner. He is the Canadian half-marathon record holder with a time of 61:00 and has won the prestigious Falmouth Road Race three years in a row (gaining the name "The King of Falmouth" in the process). In addition, he won the 2018 NCAA 10k title while competing for the University of Michigan. Ben is currently sponsored by On Running and is a member of VNTC based out of Ann Arbor, Michigan. 

In today's conversation, Ben recaps his historic race in Boston, what this race means to him, the buildup that went into it, getting married, his ambtions for 2024, his path to the Olmypics, and much more!

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Fresh off of qualifying for the World XC Championships, Kole Mathison returns to the podcast!

Kole placed second in the men's U20 8k final in 24:18.4 at the USATF Cross Country Championships at Pole Green Park in Mechanicsville, Va. 

Last year, Kole helped team USA capture bronze at the World Athletics U20 Cross Country Championships in Bathurst, New South Wales, Australia, by placing 25th individually. 

Kole also recently signed an NIL with HOKA and became their first NIL athlete. 

In high school, Kole was absolutely dominant, winning the 2022 Foot Locker National Championships, winning 4 individual state titles in Indiana, and leading his team to two more, and being a 2xstate Gatorade POY. 

Kole currently attends the University of Colorado Boulder, where he's a freshman. 

In today's conversation, Kole recaps his performance at the USATF XC Championships, coming back from his first real injury of his career, recent lessons learned, signing an NIL with HOKA, and his ambitions for the coming months. Anytime Kole comes on the podcast, it's a banger! 

Tap into the Kole Mathison Special. 

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Today on the podcast is Paul Stafford!

Paul is a senior at The University of Colorado Boulder. He formerly ran for Flordia State, where he significantly contributed to the program. Through these experiences, Paul has had the privilege of being under the prestigious Coach Bob Braman and Coach Mark Wetmore.

Paul holds PRs of 14:24 (5k), 23:20 (8k), and 30:10 in the 10k at altitude and on the grass. He was All-ACC in 2019 and 71st at NCAA XC 2019, & Top 20 in PAC-12 XC in 2023. 

In today's conversation, Paul goes through his passion for coaching, thoughts on different training ideologies, his years at FSU/Colorado, his future ambitions, and much more!

This conversation has plenty of wisdom on how to train properly, how to take your running to the next level, and much more!

Tap into the Paul Stafford Special. 

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A 20 minute clip from my conversation with Gabby Thomas which aired last week!

For those who aren't familiar with her: 

Gabby is a 2xOlmypic Medalist (2021 Olympic Bronze medalist in the 200m & Silver medalist in the 4x100m Relay). 

Gabby was the 2023 USATF Champion in the 200m and the 2021 US Olympic Trials Champion in 200m as well. 

She most recently secured Silver at the 2023 World Championships in the 200m and Gold in the 4x100m relay.  

Back in 2018, Gabby won the NCAA Indoor Championship in the 200m while representing Harvard. While at Harvard, Gabby studied neurobiology and global health as an undergraduate. She later got her Master's Degree in epidemiology from UT Austin. 

Gabby holds PRs of 11.00 in the 100m, 21.69 in the 200m, 35.73 in the 300m, and 49.68 in the 400m. 

Today's conversation was second to none. We cover so many things, from Gabby's journey in track to coffee to what it takes to be the best in track and field. We also discuss 2024, her being a part of the upcoming Netflix series on track, competing against Sha'Carri Richardson, and so much more!

Tap into the Gabby Thomas Special. 

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Today on the podcast is Conner Mantz! 

Conner runs for NIKE and runs distances from the 1500m to Marathon. He is currently intently training for the 2024 US Olympic Marathon Trials, which will take place on February 3rd in Orlando, Flordia. 

Previous to his professional running career, he competed for BYU, where he was a multiple-time NCAA Champion and debatably the greatest runner to ever come out of that program. 

Conner holds PRs of 1:46.99 in the 800m, 3:36.29 in the 1500m, and 3:52.76 in the Mile. 

In today's conversation, Conner and I discuss NCAA athletes running fast at altitude, his recent training, closing a workout in a 4:09 mile, being mentored by Jared Ward, his thoughts on the trials, and so much more!

Anytime I get to sit down with Conner is a good time. I loved getting a look inside his process as he goes into one of the biggest races of his life. 

Tap into the Conner Mantz Special. 

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Today on the podcast is NCAA Champ Nathan Green! 

Nathan was the 2023 NCAA Outdoor 1,500m Champion as well as the 2023 Pac-12 1,500m Champion. He's a 4xAll-American through his efforts indoors and out. He placed 7th at the US Championships in the 1500m this year. Back in 2022, Nathan became the U.S. Junior 1,500m Champion. 

Nathan holds PRs of 1:46.99 in the 800m, 3:36.29 in the 1500m, and 3:52.76 in the Mile. 

In high school, Nathan was one of the top recruits in the country, rated the No. 1 recruit in the nation by MileSplit. He was a five-time Gatorade Idaho Athlete of the Year and a nine-time Idaho State Champion. He set the Brooks PR Invite mile record in 2021 with a time of 4:01.76 … just 24 hours after the Brooks PR win in Renton, Wash., traveled to Hayward Field in Eugene and won the Nike Outdoor Nationals mile title for two national Mile wins in two days. He set a mile PR of 4:00.97 at 2,700 feet of elevation. 

In today's conversation, Nathan and I document his journey in the sport, the unknown culture of UW, how much that culture and friendships mean to him, the power of friendships, winning NCAAs, his future ambitions in the sport, and so much more!

Tap into the Nathan Green Special. 

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The Gabby Thomas Special is here! 

Today's episode is my favorite episode we've ever recorded. Gabby's willingness to go deep on a plethora of subjects made this one next level. Gabby has accomplished so much in the sport, so to have the opportunity to have a long-form conversation with her was a privilege and an honor. 

For those who aren't familiar with her: 

Gabby is a 2xOlmypic Medalist (2021 Olympic Bronze medalist in the 200m & Silver medalist in the 4x100m Relay). 

Gabby was the 2023 USATF Champion in the 200m and the 2021 US Olympic Trials Champion in 200m as well. 

She most recently secured Silver at the 2023 World Championships in the 200m and Gold in the 4x100m relay.  

Back in 2018, Gabby won the NCAA Indoor Championship in the 200m while representing Harvard. While at Harvard, Gabby studied neurobiology and global health as an undergraduate. She later got her Master's Degree in epidemiology from UT Austin. 

Gabby holds PRs of 11.00 in the 100m, 21.69 in the 200m, 35.73 in the 300m, and 49.68 in the 400m. 

Today's conversation was second to none. We cover so many things, from Gabby's journey in track to coffee to what it takes to be the best in track and field. We also discuss 2024, her being a part of the upcoming Netflix series on track, competing against Sha'Carri Richardson, and so much more!

Tap into the Gabby Thomas Special. 

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Today on the podcast is Aaron Bienenfeld!

Aaron is a professional running for Nike, representing his home state of Germany. 

At the University of Cincinnati, he was a five-time American Athletic Conference. Aaron finished his time in the NCAA as a 7-time All-American. He represented Germany at the 2019 U23 European XC Championships and finished 14th overall to help team finish in third place. He placed 32nd and 10th place at the European Half-World Champs. 

Aaron holds PRs of 7:46 (3k), 13:19 (5k), 27:55 (10k), and 61:49 (Half-Marathon). 

In today's conversation, Aaron walks me through his training at Alititude, missing the Houston Half, signing with Nike, running for Germany, his years in the NCAA, and so much more! A lot of good lessons and stories in this one. 

Tap into the Aaron Bienenfeld Special. 

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