Don't Shit On The Bus

We want to thank everyone for listening to the podcast these past two years. It’s been an incredible journey making this podcast, hearing about all our guest’s journeys, and helping our listeners get on the road. Thank you to all our Patreon members for supporting us on this journey, we hope to meet you all in real life. We aren’t posting every week but Adam will still intermittently host episodes when he discovers new guests. Be on the lookout for those new episodes when they drop and always remember, don’t shit on the bus!

Don't Shit On The Bus Podcast

► Website: http://www.dontshitonthebus.com

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► TikTok: https://tiktok.com/@dontshitonthebus
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► Patreon: https://patreon.com/DSotB

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Adam Elmakias - Host

► Twitter: https://twitter.com/elmakias
► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/elmakias
► Website: https://www.adamelmakias.com

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Edited & Produced by Connor Gaskey

Paul Bradely is the Founder and Owner of Eventric, which is mostly known for their app Master Tour. It was nice to have Paul on and understand the inner workings of such an important part of the touring industry. Tours simply wouldn’t function today without the help of Master Tour. If you don’t know what Master Tour is, chances are you have not toured. Thanks again Paul, look forward to meeting you in real life.  

In this episode of the Don’t Shit On The Bus podcast we will learn:

• Why Paul created Master Tour
• The early obstacles Master Tour had to overcome
• The difficulties for the company during COVID
• The new features Master Tour is rolling out

(00:00) Intro
(02:17) Patreon
(02:50) Paul gets on the bus
(03:08) The Creation of Master Tour
(04:48) Master Tour at the start
(11:52) Early issues with Master Tour
(13:32) Bringing together a team
(14:51) What drove Paul to create Master Tour
(20:14) The two sides of Master Tour
(24:18) Changes over time
(24:40) Making it through COVID
(27:39) Generating income in an app
(34:08) Preparing for post covid
(42:35) Upcoming features
(52:40) Wrap up notes
(53:48) Shower Shoes

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Eventric - Guest

► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/eventricmastertour
► Twitter: https://twitter.com/eventric
► Eventric: https://www.eventric.com

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Don't Shit On The Bus Podcast

► Website: http://www.dontshitonthebus.com

► Spotify: http://bit.ly/DSotBspotify
► Apple Podcasts: http://bit.ly/DSotBapple

► TikTok: https://tiktok.com/@dontshitonthebus
► Twitter: https://twitter.com/DSotBpodcast
► Instagram: https://instagram.com/DSotBpodcast
► Facebook: https://facebook.com/DSotBpodcast

► Patreon: https://patreon.com/DSotB

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Adam Elmakias - Host

► Twitter: https://twitter.com/elmakias
► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/elmakias
► Website: https://www.adamelmakias.com

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Edited & Produced by Connor Gaskey


#musicindustry #mastertour #touringmusic #tourmanager

Nick Martin is the guitarist and backup vocalist/screamer for the band Sleeping With Sirens. In today’s episode, we go over Nick’s love of coffee, what it’s like being a member of Sleeping With Sirens, and how Nick gauges his success as he’s traveled through this industry. Thank you so much for coming on the podcast Nick!

In this episode of the Don’t Shit On The Bus podcast we will learn:

• How to measure success as an artist
• About joining Sleeping With Sirens
• The different roles within a band
• What it was like starting Charlie Royal Coffee

(00:00) Intro
(01:46) Patreon
(02:18) Nick gets on the bus
(09:57) Coffee Cupping
(15:34) Sleeping With Sirens’ new album
(18:24) Nick being in Sleeping with Sirens for 8 years
(21:43) How Nick compartmentalizes his life
(24:28) Fake ID story
(26:52) Staying young and healthy
(28:44) Nick's metric of success
(32:45) Is there an age cap for being in a band?
(41:01) The dynamics of being in Sleeping with Sirens
(43:36) Aveneged Sevenfold story
(47:39) How to deal with people making bad decisions
(48:47) Not molding to fit in with people
(54:36) Wrap up notes
(55:07) Shower Shoes

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Nick Martin - Guest

► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nodirectioncasa
► Twitter: https://twitter.com/nodirectioncasa
► Sleeping With Sirens: https://www.sirensmusic.co

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Don't Shit On The Bus Podcast

► Website: http://www.dontshitonthebus.com

► Spotify: http://bit.ly/DSotBspotify
► Apple Podcasts: http://bit.ly/DSotBapple

► TikTok: https://tiktok.com/@dontshitonthebus
► Twitter: https://twitter.com/DSotBpodcast
► Instagram: https://instagram.com/DSotBpodcast
► Facebook: https://facebook.com/DSotBpodcast

► Patreon: https://patreon.com/DSotB

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Adam Elmakias - Host

► Twitter: https://twitter.com/elmakias
► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/elmakias
► Website: https://www.adamelmakias.com

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Edited & Produced by Connor Gaskey

Joshua Roberts is the lead vocalist for the band Magnolia Park. Not only is he the lead vocalist, he is also a photographer, videographer, and works closely on the band’s brand. In today’s episode, we dive into how Joshua joined Magnolia park, what it’s like to wear multiple hats in a band, and how anime helps inspire the group’s branding. Thank you so much much for jumping on the bus Joshua and we hope you all enjoy this week’s episode!

In this episode of the Don’t Shit On The Bus podcast we will learn:

• How Josh became a member of Magnolia Park
• The influence of anime on Magnolia Park
• What band needs to do to stay relevant today
• How Magnolia Park constantly improves themselves

(00:00) Intro
(02:21) Patreon
(02:38) Joshua gets on the bus
(03:37) How Magnolia Park formed
(05:07) Touring post-COVID
(06:59) Simple Plan Tour and Sad Summer Fest
(09:00) How Joshua joined the band
(11:28) Magnolia Park deciding to go on the road
(13:41) Wearing multiple hats in the band
(18:17) Staying relevant as a musician today
(20:01) Magnolia Park inspiration from anime
(23:39) How Joshua got into anime
(30:24) Working with Flysouth, Andrew Wade, and ADTR
(32:07) Constantly improving
(36:21) How to go from local band to touring musicians
(40:07) Wrap up notes
(41:23) Shower Shoes

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Joshua Roberts - Guest

► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/joshmagnoliapark/
► Twitter: https://twitter.com/JoshMagnolia
► Magnolia Park: https://www.magnoliaparkband.com

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Don't Shit On The Bus Podcast

► Website: http://www.dontshitonthebus.com

► Spotify: http://bit.ly/DSotBspotify
► Apple Podcasts: http://bit.ly/DSotBapple

► TikTok: https://tiktok.com/@dontshitonthebus
► Twitter: https://twitter.com/DSotBpodcast
► Instagram: https://instagram.com/DSotBpodcast
► Facebook: https://facebook.com/DSotBpodcast

► Patreon: https://patreon.com/DSotB

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Adam Elmakias - Host

► Twitter: https://twitter.com/elmakias
► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/elmakias
► Website: https://www.adamelmakias.com

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Edited & Produced by Connor Gaskey

Austin Roa is a touring photographer and videographer. He has worked with artists such as The Lumineers, HOZIER, and is currently out with AJR. In today’s episode we dive into how Austin began his career in music from shooting DIY house shows to leveling up to international arena tours. Just like on tour, he only brought good vibes and stories for this week’s episode - thanks for coming on Austin!

In this episode of the Don’t Shit On The Bus podcast we will learn:

• How to craft new images in similar-looking venues
• How Austin went from sneaking into shows at SXSW to touring around the world with AJR
• Why being a good person is the best quality to have on the road
• The amount of creative freedom Austin has with AJR

(00:00) Intro
(01:35) Patreon
(02:05) Austin gets on the bus
(03:39) Austin's get home from tour routine
(09:40) Touring consistently with one artist
(12:13) AJR's Broadway show
(13:07) AJR in New Zealand
(14:49) Different sizes of AJR tours
(17:28) AJR's viral TikTok moents
(18:59) Creating a strong relationship with an artist
(20:31) Austin's first tour
(21:22) Going with your gut
(26:20) The value of personality when touring
(27:56) Austin jumping on Hippos Campus's bus
(31:33) Content goals for a world tour
(33:39) Crew suggestions
(36:37) Challenging yourself creatively on tour
(41:36) How Austin stays healthy on tour
(46:40) Wrap up notes
(48:07) Shower Shoes

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Austin Roa - Guest

► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/austinroa
► Twitter:https://twitter.com/AustinRoa
► Website: https://www.austinroa.com

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Don't Shit On The Bus Podcast

► Website: http://www.dontshitonthebus.com

► Spotify: http://bit.ly/DSotBspotify
► Apple Podcasts: http://bit.ly/DSotBapple

► TikTok: https://tiktok.com/@dontshitonthebus
► Twitter: https://twitter.com/DSotBpodcast
► Instagram: https://instagram.com/DSotBpodcast
► Facebook: https://facebook.com/DSotBpodcast

► Patreon: https://patreon.com/DSotB

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Adam Elmakias - Host

► Twitter: https://twitter.com/elmakias
► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/elmakias
► Website: https://www.adamelmakias.com

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Edited & Produced by Connor Gaskey

Kim is a program director at Calling All Crows. They work with venues, festivals, and touring crews to help end sexual violence in the music industry. In today’s episode, we explore what sexual violence looks like in a concert setting. We cover on a very basic level - how to handle these situations when they arise - from both the crew and attendee perspectives. However, I would heavily recommend taking their online course as it goes much deeper than we do.  

In this episode of the Don’t Shit On The Bus podcast we will learn:

• Calling All Crow's role at venues
• How to spot sexual harassment
• What you can do to prevent sexual harassment and violence
• Methods you can use when in an uncomfortable environment

(00:00) Intro
(02:14) Patreon
(02:54) Kim gets on the bus
(08:22) The thought process behind Calling All Crows
(14:30) What qualifies as sexual violence
(19:58) Response to Calling All Crows from venues and staff
(23:04) When you need to change your environment and when to leave it
(25:06) Festival Example
(27:43) Tour Bus Example
(36:19) Adam's improvement with his language
(41:06) Example of workplace harassment
(59:36) Wrap up notes
(01:00:54) Shower Shoes

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Kim Warnick - Guest

► LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kim-warnick

Calling All Crows:
► Resources: https://callingallcrows.org/hereforthemusic
► Training: https://www.callingallcrows.org/hftm-training
► Anti-Harassment Pledge: https://www.callingallcrows.org/our-pledge
► Donate: https://secure.givelively.org/donate/calling-all-crows/hereforthemusic

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Don't Shit On The Bus Podcast

► Website: http://www.dontshitonthebus.com

► Spotify: http://bit.ly/DSotBspotify
► Apple Podcasts: http://bit.ly/DSotBapple

► TikTok: https://tiktok.com/@dontshitonthebus
► Twitter: https://twitter.com/DSotBpodcast
► Instagram: https://instagram.com/DSotBpodcast
► Facebook: https://facebook.com/DSotBpodcast

► Patreon: https://patreon.com/DSotB

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Adam Elmakias - Host

► Twitter: https://twitter.com/elmakias
► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/elmakias
► Website: https://www.adamelmakias.com

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Edited & Produced by Connor Gaskey

Matt is a VIP coordinator who is currently working at 237 Global Inc.. They help create VIP experiences for artists such as Shawn Mendes, Hella Mega Tour, and Wiz Khalifa to name a few. In today’s episode explore how artists have created bigger and better experiences for their fans and how you can work in VIP.

In this episode of the Don’t Shit On The Bus podcast we will learn:

• How Matt became a VIP coordinator
• What a VIP coordinator does
• How to get on the road as a VIP coordinator
• What it’s like to work for 237 Global Inc.

(00:00) Intro
(01:49) Patreon
(02:28) Matt gets on the bus
(03:41) How Adam and Matt met
(05:55) How Matt started working as a VIP Coordinator
(07:55) What VIP experiences use to be
(16:54) The rise in popularity of VIP experiences
(21:41) 23/7 Global Global
(24:50) Who has VIP experiences on tour today
(29:44) How VIP works
(36:48) How to get on the road as a VIP coordinator
(42:15) Average day working for 23/7 Global
(47:26) Skills that transfer over to other touring jobs from VIP
(50:47) Wrap up notes
(50:52) Shower Shoes

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Matt Jara - Guest

► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/237_global
► Website:https://237global.com

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Don't Shit On The Bus Podcast

► Website: http://www.dontshitonthebus.com

► Spotify: http://bit.ly/DSotBspotify
► Apple Podcasts: http://bit.ly/DSotBapple

► TikTok: https://tiktok.com/@dontshitonthebus
► Twitter: https://twitter.com/DSotBpodcast
► Instagram: https://instagram.com/DSotBpodcast
► Facebook: https://facebook.com/DSotBpodcast

► Patreon: https://patreon.com/DSotB

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Adam Elmakias - Host

► Twitter: https://twitter.com/elmakias
► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/elmakias
► Website: https://www.adamelmakias.com

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Edited & Produced by Connor Gaskey


#vipcoordinator #shawnmendes #musicindustry #237globalinc

Justin is currently drum teching for Slipknot and was kind of enough to jump on call with us mid tour, all the way from Slovakia. Had a solid time catching up with him and hearing it’s like touring with one of the largest metal bands in the world.

In this episode of the Don’t Shit On The Bus podcast we will learn:

• How it feels to headline festivals in Europe
• What it’s like touring with a large band & crew
• How Justin and Jay Weinberg became friends  
• Justin’s improvement as a drummer

(00:00) Intro
(02:16) Patreon
(02:25) Justin gets on the bus
(03:18) Justin’s current tour location
(07:47) Slipknots routing for Europe
(09:32) Building Jay’s drum set
(13:30) How Justin started working with Slipknot
(19:14) Justin's first show with Slipknot
(24:17) How many pieces make up Jay’s Slipknot drum kit
(25:20) Early mistakes Justin learned from while touring with Slipknot
(28:55) What it's like drum tech for Slipknot
(32:09) Justin's photography
(34:12) Tortilla guy
(37:11) Traveling with such a big crew
(42:47) An average day for Justin
(50:23) Wrap up notes
(50:36) How Justin has worked to this point in his career
(53:26) Jared Leto Story
(55:41) COVID 19
(59:28) Shower Shoes

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Justin Nace - Guest

► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jsnace
► Twitter: https://twitter.com/JSNace
► Website: https://justinnace.bigcartel.com

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Don't Shit On The Bus Podcast

► Website: http://www.dontshitonthebus.com

► Spotify: http://bit.ly/DSotBspotify
► Apple Podcasts: http://bit.ly/DSotBapple

► TikTok: https://tiktok.com/@dontshitonthebus
► Twitter: https://twitter.com/DSotBpodcast
► Instagram: https://instagram.com/DSotBpodcast
► Facebook: https://facebook.com/DSotBpodcast

► Patreon: https://patreon.com/DSotB

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Adam Elmakias - Host

► Twitter: https://twitter.com/elmakias
► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/elmakias
► Website: https://www.adamelmakias.com

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Edited & Produced by Connor Gaskey

Sam is the lead vocalist of X Ambassadors and Gabe is their long-time tour manager of 10+ years. Sam talks with us about how X Ambassadors is constantly striving to fine-tune their shows while Gabe simultaneously progresses his Tour Managing skills to match the band's growth. Any touring team that can stay together for 10+ years is doing it the right way, thanks for sharing your stories and advice this week - looking forward to meeting you both in real life one day.  

In this episode of the Don’t Shit On The Bus podcast we will learn:

• The importance of good communication between an artist and their tour manager
• How Images Dragon’s Dan Reynolds discovered X Ambassadors
• How a polar vortex almost stranded the X Ambassadors’ team
• Why Gabe was the right tour manager to grow along with X Ambassadors

(00:00) Intro
(01:52) Patreon
(03:13) Sam and Gabe get on the bus
(04:51) Sam and Gabe start working with each other
(07:21) Leveling up with success
(11:25) X Ambassadors getting their first bus
(12:56) Litost song release
(16:05) Operating with a small team
(18:13) Gabe’s plan when joining the X Ambassador team
(23:11) The strive for perfection
(26:37) How Gabe was able to keep up in skill level as the band grew
(29:06) Communication is key between artist and crew
(31:58) The only times Gabe has “broke”
(35:40) Polar vortex
(39:03) Touring during COVID
(42:10) Rules on the bus
(49:53) Wrap up notes
(50:37) Shower Shoes

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Sam Harris - Guest

► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/samnelsonharris_xa
► Twitter: https://twitter.com/xambassadors
► Twitch: https://www.xambassadors.com

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Don't Shit On The Bus Podcast

► Website: http://www.dontshitonthebus.com

► Spotify: http://bit.ly/DSotBspotify
► Apple Podcasts: http://bit.ly/DSotBapple

► TikTok: https://tiktok.com/@dontshitonthebus
► Twitter: https://twitter.com/DSotBpodcast
► Instagram: https://instagram.com/DSotBpodcast
► Facebook: https://facebook.com/DSotBpodcast

► Patreon: https://patreon.com/DSotB

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Adam Elmakias - Host

► Twitter: https://twitter.com/elmakias
► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/elmakias
► Website: https://www.adamelmakias.com

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Edited & Produced by Connor Gaskey

Everyone please welcome this week’s guest to the bus - Jonny Craig! I have known Jonny for awhile, but had never gotten the chance to sit down and talk with him. Some of these stories are hard to listen to, but I’m thankful Jonny is able to tell them so that we can all learn from him.  

In this episode of the Don’t Shit On The Bus podcast we will learn:

• What caused Jonny to start taking opioids
• The cycle of addiction and how hard it is to break
• How Jonny joined Dance Gavin Dance
• Jonny new music & outlook on life

(00:00) Intro
(02:46) Patreon
(03:09) Jonny gets on the bus
(08:13) Jonny joining Dance Gavin Dance
(12:06) How Jonny created the vocal sound for Dance Gavin Dance
(13:57) Initially declining Rise Records, finding Eric Rushing
(16:01) When Jonny first got addicted to drugs
(20:05) Jonny becoming more addicted to pills
(24:43) When Jonny started to lose friends because of his addictions
(26:08) Adam's story about Jonny in Vegas
(28:04) The lowest points for Jonny
(29:57) Macbook situation
(40:04) How to help someone with an addiction
(42:23) What enabling looks like
(45:56) Binge Drinking
(48:58) Jonny returning to live music & sobriety
(01:00:17) Wrap up notes
(01:02:47) Jonny’s solo career
(01:05:14) Shower Shoes


Don't Shit On The Bus Podcast

► Website: http://www.dontshitonthebus.com

► Spotify: http://bit.ly/DSotBspotify
► Apple Podcasts: http://bit.ly/DSotBapple

► TikTok: https://tiktok.com/@dontshitonthebus
► Twitter: https://twitter.com/DSotBpodcast
► Instagram: https://instagram.com/DSotBpodcast
► Facebook: https://facebook.com/DSotBpodcast

► Patreon: https://patreon.com/DSotB

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Adam Elmakias - Host

► Twitter: https://twitter.com/elmakias
► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/elmakias
► Website: https://www.adamelmakias.com

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Edited & Produced by Connor Gaskey

Everyone, please welcome this week’s guest to the bus - Seth Kallen! Seth manages X Ambassadors, Jukebox The Ghost, Will Linley, and Corook to name a few. I found it impressive he has been managing Jukebox The Ghost for 17 years (almost half his life)! His stories of being a part of the rise of X Ambassadors were also a pleasure to listen to. So get comfy, grab your drink of choice, and get ready for this week’s episode of Don’t Shit on the Bus!

In this episode of the Don’t Shit On The Bus podcast we will learn:

• How Seth went from wanting to be a musician to being a manager of an internationally recognized band
• Why Seth believes live music is so crucial for a particular artist
• How ‘Jungle’ and ‘Renegades’ put X Ambassadors on the map
• What happens to a band, on the back end, after a song becomes very successful

(00:00) Intro
(02:15) Patreon
(03:36) Seth gets on the bus
(05:53) Seth's path to becoming a manager
(07:57) How Seth met Jukebox The Ghost
(21:00) When Seth started working with X Ambassadors
(22:21) The songs that helped  X Ambassadors grow in popularity
(30:16) How 'Jungle' became the anthem of the 2014 World Cup
(33:59) How the song ‘Renegades’ propelled X Ambassadors into area-selling shows
(35:52) The impact of syncs on an artist’s career
(39:44) Lessons learned from big songs like 'Jungle' and 'Renegades’
(46:32) Why artists need to perform live
(53:55) Wrap up notes
(56:10) Shower Shoes

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Seth Kallen - Guest

► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sethkallen
► Article:https://medium.com/@SethKallenThisFiction/what-do-i-miss-i-miss-live-music-the-fight-to-save-the-concert-business-during-a-global-pandemic-b91d64d1b26b
► Website: https://www.thisfiction.com

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Don't Shit On The Bus Podcast

► Website: http://www.dontshitonthebus.com

► Spotify: http://bit.ly/DSotBspotify
► Apple Podcasts: http://bit.ly/DSotBapple

► TikTok: https://tiktok.com/@dontshitonthebus
► Twitter: https://twitter.com/DSotBpodcast
► Instagram: https://instagram.com/DSotBpodcast
► Facebook: https://facebook.com/DSotBpodcast

► Patreon: https://patreon.com/DSotB

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Adam Elmakias - Host

► Twitter: https://twitter.com/elmakias
► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/elmakias
► Website: https://www.adamelmakias.com

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Edited & Produced by Connor Gaskey


#xambassadors #jukeboxtheghost #sethkallen

Everyone lets welcome onto the bus, Eric Gerloff! Eric wears a lot of hats on tour; he’s a tour manager, production manager, and sound engineer to name a few. Eric has toured with a wide variety of artists starting all the way back on Warped Tour and now tour manages A$AP Ferg, Lil Uzi Vert, and BoywithUke. Thanks to his years of experience in the music industry, Eric has a strong gut feeling when hiring crew members or working with a new artist. There’s so much knowledge to gain from Eric so get comfy for this week’s episode of Don’t Shit on the Bus!

In this episode of the Don’t Shit On The Bus podcast we will learn:

• How Eric has worked with a long list of varied genre artist
• What is it like to tour in the rap/hip hop world
• Why does Eric trust his gut so much when choosing crew members or artists to work for
• Lessons Eric learned from mistakes he made early in his career

(00:00) Intro
(01:47) Patreon
(02:13) Eric gets on the bus
(02:27) How long Adam and Eric have known each other
(04:50) When Eric started touring
(06:24) Mistakes Eric made early on in his career
(11:08) Who Eric has worked for
(13:43) Difference between Warped Tour bands and hip-hop artists
(20:02) What it's like being on a free for all tour
(25:47) How to let people know you're available
(27:37) What Eric looks for when bringing on new tour members
(36:28) Smoking and drinking on the job
(49:27) How to know when you're the right fit for an artist
(56:04) Wrap up notes
(56:38) Shower Shoes

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Eric Gerloff - Guest

► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/detroitbatman_/
► Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/eric-gerloff-29880351

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Don't Shit On The Bus Podcast

► Website: http://www.dontshitonthebus.com

► Spotify: http://bit.ly/DSotBspotify
► Apple Podcasts: http://bit.ly/DSotBapple

► TikTok: https://tiktok.com/@dontshitonthebus
► Twitter: https://twitter.com/DSotBpodcast
► Instagram: https://instagram.com/DSotBpodcast
► Facebook: https://facebook.com/DSotBpodcast

► Patreon: https://patreon.com/DSotB

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Adam Elmakias - Host

► Twitter: https://twitter.com/elmakias
► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/elmakias
► Website: https://www.adamelmakias.com

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Edited & Produced by Connor Gaskey

Everyone please welcome the founders of Entourage Pro James and Joel. Entourage Pro is at its very core -  a verified private global crew network. I was very excited when I learned about this site and I feel deeply that this is exactly what the music industry needs. James and Joel answer all of my questions, provide some insight on how they made this site,  and cover how you can sign up and create an account. Sign up!  

In this episode of the Don’t Shit On The Bus podcast we will learn:

• What is Entourage Pro
• Why did Joel and James create Entourage Pro for
• How to create and edit an account on Entourage Pro
• Why the music industry operates on a word-of-mouth system for getting gigs

(00:00) Intro
(02:22) Patreon
(03:18) Joel and James get on the bus
(04:06) What Joel and James do in the music industry
(14:28) Why the music industry was such a word-of-mouth industry?
(19:50) What is Entourage Pro?
(24:33) Pitfalls Joel and James avoided when creating Entourage Pro
(29:38) Who gets hired on Entourage Pro and who does the hiring
(40:07) Convincing people to switch over to Entourage Pro
(50:42) Going on and using Entourage Pro
(01:12:56) Editability on the site
(01:17:02) How it felt to launch the Entourage Pro
(01:18:47) Wrap up notes

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Entourage Pro - Guest

► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/entourageproltd
► Twitter: https://twitter.com/pro_entourage
► Website: https://www.entouragepro.com

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Don't Shit On The Bus Podcast

► Website: http://www.dontshitonthebus.com

► Spotify: http://bit.ly/DSotBspotify
► Apple Podcasts: http://bit.ly/DSotBapple

► TikTok: https://tiktok.com/@dontshitonthebus
► Twitter: https://twitter.com/DSotBpodcast
► Instagram: https://instagram.com/DSotBpodcast
► Facebook: https://facebook.com/DSotBpodcast

► Patreon: https://patreon.com/DSotB

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Adam Elmakias - Host

► Twitter: https://twitter.com/elmakias
► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/elmakias
► Website: https://www.adamelmakias.com

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Edited & Produced by Connor Gaskey

Everyone welcome one of the most enthusiastic people we’ve had on the bus, Kenny Barnwell! Over the past 20 years, Kenny has worked his way up from a local stagehand to touring with Bon Jovi, Justin Bieber, and Ariana Grande. Kenny also is the co-founder of Freedom Music events, an author, and teaches online courses for crew careers. Let's get ready for this week’s episode of Don’t Shit on the Bus!  

In this episode of the Don’t Shit On The Bus podcast we will learn:

• What someone can do to level up as a stagehand
• How Kenny went from living in his car to touring with A-list artist
• The value of working for free at the beginning in the music industry
• What Kenny believes people on the road now can do to help out new stagehands

(00:00) Intro
(03:05) Patreon
(03:59) Kenny gets on the bus
(06:12) How Kenny got started in the music industry
(17:04) Working for free
(19:31) How stagehands are hired on
(21:14) How Kenny transitioned into touring
(27:38) What is a stagehand
(33:12) It's all about who knows you
(35:10) Missteps when reaching out to someone
(40:24) Can you be a good hang on tour
(43:38) Being a stagehand is like paid training
(48:07) First steps to being hired as a local stagehand
(55:22) Leveling up from a stagehand
(01:05:37) What people on the road can do now to help new stage hands out
(01:11:00) Wrap up notes

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Kenny Barnwell - Guest

► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thekennybarnwell
► Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/kennybarnwell
► Crew Coach: https://freedommusicevents.com/crew-coach
► Back Stage Crew Careers: https://www.instagram.com/backstagecrewcareers

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Don't Shit On The Bus Podcast

► Website: http://www.dontshitonthebus.com

► Spotify: http://bit.ly/DSotBspotify
► Apple Podcasts: http://bit.ly/DSotBapple

► TikTok: https://tiktok.com/@dontshitonthebus
► Twitter: https://twitter.com/DSotBpodcast
► Instagram: https://instagram.com/DSotBpodcast
► Facebook: https://facebook.com/DSotBpodcast

► Patreon: https://patreon.com/DSotB

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Adam Elmakias - Host

► Twitter: https://twitter.com/elmakias
► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/elmakias
► Website: https://www.adamelmakias.com

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Edited & Produced by Connor Gaskey

Connor made me write the caption this week…. Because we have Connor on the podcast! Everyone welcome our very own producer, editor, and resident good vibes advocate Connor Gaskey. Connor is on his first. tour. ever. And I couldn’t be more proud, excited, and thrilled for him. Of course, it’s only right we snag him for a day to talk to him about what he has been up to.

In this episode of the Don’t Shit On The Bus podcast we will learn:

• How Connor was able to network his way onto his first tour
• What skills Connor has learned while on the road
• The importance of being organized and clean on a bandwagon
• What it’s like to work so one on one with BoywithUke

(00:00) Intro
(01:29) Patreon
(02:22) Connor gets on the bus
(03:45) How Connor networked his way to getting his first tour
(06:59) Connor reached out to other photographers
(10:07) Stuff you need to know before going on the road
(12:32) First day on tour
(19:05) Rules of a bandwagon
(19:54) Stories from the road
(26:28) Days seem the same on the road
(29:14)  Daily routine on tour
(33:04) Staying healthy on tour
(35:05) The show
(36:15) Working one on one with BoywithUke
(38:46) Recognizing things Connor learned from the podcast on tour
(40:27) One thing of touring Connor did not expect
(41:17) Shower shoes
(41:27) Using skills learned from off the road on tour
(42:25) Things Connor is trying to improve on while touring
(43:28) Wrap up notes

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Connor Gaskey - Guest

► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/connortherealgaskey
► Twitter: https://twitter.com/cjgaskey
► Website: https://www.connorgaskey.com

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Don't Shit On The Bus Podcast

► Website: http://www.dontshitonthebus.com

► Spotify: http://bit.ly/DSotBspotify
► Apple Podcasts: http://bit.ly/DSotBapple

► TikTok: https://tiktok.com/@dontshitonthebus
► Twitter: https://twitter.com/DSotBpodcast
► Instagram: https://instagram.com/DSotBpodcast
► Facebook: https://facebook.com/DSotBpodcast

► Patreon: https://patreon.com/DSotB

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Adam Elmakias - Host

► Twitter: https://twitter.com/elmakias
► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/elmakias
► Website: https://www.adamelmakias.com

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Edited & Produced by Connor Gaskey

Let's welcome Chris Lent to the podcast this week! Chris is a drum tech, drummer, and stage manager. Chris has played with From First To Last, I Set My Friends On Fire - and is currently in The Villa and Pretty Idiiot.  He is currently stage manager for Polyphia. The path Chirs has made into the music industry is one of the most rock n roll ways and it’s incredible to chat with him about how he kept leveling up his career. He’s a guy of many talents both as a crew member as well as being in a couple of his own bands. There’s a lot to learn about being a great hang on the road in this one so get ready for this week’s episode of  Don’t Shit on the Bus!  

In this episode of the Don’t Shit On The Bus podcast we will learn:

• Why Chris makes friends with all his crew mates on tour
• How Chris has worked with and been in several bands over his music career
• The importance of leaving your ego at the door when going out on the road
• What happened in the viral video Chris was in

(00:00) Intro
(01:57) Patreon
(03:03) Chris gets on the bus
(03:16) Chris's viral video
(12:06) Scaling up with Polyphia
(13:23) Going from drum tech to stage manager
(14:47) How Chris started touring
(18:42) Stories from the road
(26:02) Chris on joining I See My Friends on Fire
(30:35) Who Chris is currently touring with
(35:09) Working off the road
(38:39) Working without an ego
(40:02) Taking a break from music
(43:55) Creating relationships with crew members
(50:48) How to be a good guest on stage
(55:35) Wrap up notes
(56:01) Shower Shoes

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Chris Lent - Guest

► Linktree: https://linktr.ee/PrettyIdiiot
► The Vila: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ae8KWCsJNw

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Don't Shit On The Bus Podcast

► Website: http://www.dontshitonthebus.com

► Spotify: http://bit.ly/DSotBspotify
► Apple Podcasts: http://bit.ly/DSotBapple

► TikTok: https://tiktok.com/@dontshitonthebus
► Twitter: https://twitter.com/DSotBpodcast
► Instagram: https://instagram.com/DSotBpodcast
► Facebook: https://facebook.com/DSotBpodcast

► Patreon: https://patreon.com/DSotB

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Adam Elmakias - Host

► Twitter: https://twitter.com/elmakias
► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/elmakias
► Website: https://www.adamelmakias.com

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Edited & Produced by Connor Gaskey

This week on the podcast let's welcome Angie Warner who is a tour manager. Angie has toured with artists such as Post Malone, Jay-Z, and is the western residency tour manager for BTS. It’s incredible how much Angie has accomplished in her 22 years in the music industry, this episode felt like Angie was telling stories around a bonfire. She’s truly one of the best at what she does and her insight of arena-filling talent is something you won’t want to miss. There’s so much to learn this week so get comfy, grab a good drink, and enjoy another week of Don’t Shit on the Bus!

In this episode of the Don’t Shit On The Bus podcast we will learn:

• How Angie has been able to work with some of the biggest names in the music industry
• What it’s like tour manage arena level show with Post Malone and BTS is like
• How important security becomes at larger scale music events
• The type of security measures that are needed for larger-scale music events

(00:00) Intro
(02:15) Patreon
(02:47) Angie gets on the bus
(07:47) How Angie got started in the music industry
(13:43) How to stand out as a runner
(16:56) Morals Angie lives by when teaching others in the industry
(21:10) How touring has changed over the last 20 years
(25:08) How Angie has worked with the artist she’s toured with
(32:14) What a tour manager has to do at different levels of touring
(40:47) Angie's routine on tour
(43:22) Getting a tour dog
(49:40) What security is like on arena level tours
(01:00:13) Wrap up notes
(01:01:01)Shower Shoes

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Angie Warner - Guest

► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kidang711
► Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/kidang

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Don't Shit On The Bus Podcast

► Website: http://www.dontshitonthebus.com

► Spotify: http://bit.ly/DSotBspotify
► Apple Podcasts: http://bit.ly/DSotBapple

► TikTok: https://tiktok.com/@dontshitonthebus
► Twitter: https://twitter.com/DSotBpodcast
► Instagram: https://instagram.com/DSotBpodcast
► Facebook: https://facebook.com/DSotBpodcast

► Patreon: https://patreon.com/DSotB

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Adam Elmakias - Host

► Twitter: https://twitter.com/elmakias
► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/elmakias
► Website: https://www.adamelmakias.com

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Edited & Produced by Connor Gaskey

This week on the podcast let's welcome Mike Finn who is a tour manager. Mike has toured with artists such as Mayday Parade, Dillon Francis, and Thomas Rhett. This episode has a ton of quotable moments and incredible insight for those trying to, not only tour, but tour in the country music scene. Mike really lays out how different genres of music operate and how he has adapted to each one. It’s a fun one so you won’t want to miss this week’s episode of Don’t Shit on the Bus.  

In this episode of the Don’t Shit On The Bus podcast we will learn:

• How Mike was able to accumulate different skill sets from a variety of music genres
• What Mike believes is the most important thing to do to get on your first tour
• About Mike’s transition into work in the country music world
• The importance of adapting your personality to the style of touring you are on

(00:00) Intro
(01:37) Patreon
(02:34) Mike gets on the bus
(05:29) How Mike got started in the music industry
(10:01) What skills Mike picked up while touring in the pop-punk world
(14:43) Moments that make Mike feel like he's made it
(16:53) How Mike was able to tour with a variety of different artist
(26:35) How to end a relationship with an artist on a good note
(30:08) Mike touring with Thomas Rhett
(34:25) What Mike considers before taking on a tour
(37:54) How country touring works
(43:33) Knowing when you to adapt your personality on tour
(49:41) Wrap up notes
(52:41)Shower Shoes

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Mike Finn - Guest

► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mikexfinn
► Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/mikexfinn

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Don't Shit On The Bus Podcast

► Website: http://www.dontshitonthebus.com

► Spotify: http://bit.ly/DSotBspotify
► Apple Podcasts: http://bit.ly/DSotBapple

► TikTok: https://tiktok.com/@dontshitonthebus
► Twitter: https://twitter.com/DSotBpodcast
► Instagram: https://instagram.com/DSotBpodcast
► Facebook: https://facebook.com/DSotBpodcast

► Patreon: https://patreon.com/DSotB

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Adam Elmakias - Host

► Twitter: https://twitter.com/elmakias
► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/elmakias
► Website: https://www.adamelmakias.com

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Edited & Produced by Connor Gaskey

We are having another tour check-in, lets's welcome on the bus, Hannah Filbey. Hannah is a production coordinator currently on the road with Greta Van Fleet and was kind enough, after a 20-hour travel day, to chat with us. Thank you so much for taking the time to not sleep and helping us learn more about your job Hannah.

In this episode of the Don’t Shit On The Bus podcast we will learn:

• The difficulties of being a woman on the road
• How Hannah went from local catering to touring internationally with Greta Van Fleet
• What it’s like being on a headlining tour and a supporting act tour
• Which local jobs you can do get to gain the skills to be a production coordinator

(00:00) Intro
(01:58) Patreon
(02:27) Hannah gets on the bus
(02:34) How Adam met Hannah
(04:36) Events that Hannah has planned on tours
(07:30) Hannah touring with Gretta Van Fleet
(10:20) How Hannah went from Korn to Gretta Van Fleet
(15:28) South America tour
(16:15) Difference between a headliner tour and a supporting tour
(18:02) Knowing what needs to be done for a tour
(23:27) What Hannah to prep to do for the South American tour
(31:17) Catering stories
(33:07) What you need to do to become a production coordinator
(38:52) What a support band can and can't do on a tour
(45:29) Being a woman on tour
(54:08) What makes Hannah accept or decline a tour
(01:01:42) Wrap up notes
(01:04:07) Shower Shoes

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Hannah Filbey - Guest

► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hanclairabelle
► Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/hanclairabelle

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Don't Shit On The Bus Podcast

► Website: http://www.dontshitonthebus.com

► Spotify: http://bit.ly/DSotBspotify
► Apple Podcasts: http://bit.ly/DSotBapple

► TikTok: https://tiktok.com/@dontshitonthebus
► Twitter: https://twitter.com/DSotBpodcast
► Instagram: https://instagram.com/DSotBpodcast
► Facebook: https://facebook.com/DSotBpodcast

► Patreon: https://patreon.com/DSotB

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Adam Elmakias - Host

► Twitter: https://twitter.com/elmakias
► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/elmakias
► Website: https://www.adamelmakias.com

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Edited & Produced by Connor Gaskey

This week on the podcast lets welcome Jake Chams who is a tour photographer and videographer. Jake has toured with artists such as Panic At The Disco, Lorde, and Marshmello. This episode has a ton of great lessons on why everyone should keep an open mind to learning while on the road. There’s a ton of laughing in this one so brace yourself for another week of Don’t Shit on the Bus.

In this episode of the Don’t Shit On The Bus podcast we will learn:

• How impactful a photographer/videographer is on a tour
• Why Jake always has an open mind to learning on tour
• About Jake’s major injury from touring
• When you to have your camera ready and when to put it away around artists

(00:00) Intro
(02:11) Patreon
(02:37) Jake gets on the bus
(03:55) How Jake got on tour with Panic at the Disco
(10:28) Knowing social boundaries
(14:37) Being opened to learning
(19:50) Wearing multiple hats on tour
(22:48) Niche jobs at different touring levels
(25:13) Why artist want someone for both photo and video
(28:51) What makes the music industry so brutal
(30:58) Experienced photographer/videographer vs new photographer/videographer
(35:59) Jake's accident
(43:29) How Jake prepares for a tour
(48:20) Wrap up notes
(48:25) Shower Shoes

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Jake Chams - Guest

► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jakechams
► Twitter: https://twitter.com/JakeChams
► Website: https://www.jakechams.com/

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Don't Shit On The Bus Podcast

► Website: http://www.dontshitonthebus.com

► Spotify: http://bit.ly/DSotBspotify
► Apple Podcasts: http://bit.ly/DSotBapple

► TikTok: https://tiktok.com/@dontshitonthebus
► Twitter: https://twitter.com/DSotBpodcast
► Instagram: https://instagram.com/DSotBpodcast
► Facebook: https://facebook.com/DSotBpodcast

► Patreon: https://patreon.com/DSotB

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Adam Elmakias - Host

► Twitter: https://twitter.com/elmakias
► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/elmakias
► Website: https://www.adamelmakias.com

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Edited & Produced by Connor Gaskey

This week on the podcast let's welcome Andrew Weiss who is the tour manager and production manager. Andrew has toured with artists such as Paramore, Twenty One Pilots, and Creed. Andrew has been in the touring game for a long time and has accumulated a wealth of knowledge you can only get from living the experiences. He really gets to the nuts and bolts of what it takes to make a career out of this.  

In this episode of the Don’t Shit On The Bus podcast we will learn:

• How the touring industry has changed over the time
• What Andrew considered the right attitude to have when you first start touring
• How money and payments are negotiated before taking on a tour
• Andrew’s thoughts of constantly learning and improving your skills on the road

(00:00) Intro
(03:17) Patreon
(04:31) Andrew gets on the bus
(06:01) How Adam and Andre met
(10:01) How Andrew got started in the touring industry
(13:03) The most important part to learn to be on the road
(16:58) How touring has changed since Andrew started
(20:27) Why are tour managing and tour producing so similar
(25:21) Staying on top of your job requirements
(34:41) What causes success and failure on the road?
(36:32) How to ask for a raise
(42:37) Why you don't discuss business with the artist
(47:51) What Andrew looks into before taking a tour
(51:43) Maintaining a home and tour lifestyle
(56:31) Wrap up notes
(57:14) Shower Shoes

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Andrew Weiss - Guest

► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/tourmangler
► Twitter: https://twitter.com/tourmangler

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Don't Shit On The Bus Podcast

► Website: http://www.dontshitonthebus.com

► Spotify: http://bit.ly/DSotBspotify
► Apple Podcasts: http://bit.ly/DSotBapple

► TikTok: https://tiktok.com/@dontshitonthebus
► Twitter: https://twitter.com/DSotBpodcast
► Instagram: https://instagram.com/DSotBpodcast
► Facebook: https://facebook.com/DSotBpodcast

► Patreon: https://patreon.com/DSotB

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Adam Elmakias - Host

► Twitter: https://twitter.com/elmakias
► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/elmakias
► Website: https://www.adamelmakias.com

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Edited & Produced by Connor Gaskey

We are trying something new this week called Tour Check-Ins. Let's welcome this week’s guest to the bus, Suge. Yes, it’s just Suge. Suge is a guitar tech who has a great sense of humor you won’t miss - he’s a chill dude. Suge is currently touring with Miley Cyrus so be on the lookout for him on stage.   

In this episode of the Don’t Shit On The Bus podcast we will learn:

• What it’s like to tour with Miley Cyrus
• The questions that Suge asks before taking on a tour
• A kind artist leads to a kind touring crew
• What made Suge the right person to go on tour with Miley Cyrus

(00:00) Intro
(02:05) Patreon
(02:36) Suge gets on the bus
(04:04) When Adam and Suge met
(05:15) How long Suge has been touring
(08:06) Touring South America with Miley Cyrus
(11:35) What made Suge the right person to go on this tour
(15:18) What Suge did on the Miley Cryus tour
(16:32) The questions that should be asked before taking a tour
(20:35) What it's like to travel on an arena level tour
(25:36) Lightning Story
(30:39) What the schedule is like on a Miley Cyrus tour
(33:48) What's different touring with Miley compared to other bands
(37:44) Does a nice artist mean a nice crew?
(43:30) At what point would Suge decide to leave a tour
(47:45) Working with negative crew teams
(52:49) Why you shouldn’t tell negative stories from the road publicly
(54:55) Wrap up notes

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Suge- Guest

► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sugenasty

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Don't Shit On The Bus Podcast

► Website: http://www.dontshitonthebus.com

► Spotify: http://bit.ly/DSotBspotify
► Apple Podcasts: http://bit.ly/DSotBapple

► TikTok: https://tiktok.com/@dontshitonthebus
► Twitter: https://twitter.com/DSotBpodcast
► Instagram: https://instagram.com/DSotBpodcast
► Facebook: https://facebook.com/DSotBpodcast

► Patreon: https://patreon.com/DSotB

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Adam Elmakias - Host

► Twitter: https://twitter.com/elmakias
► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/elmakias
► Website: https://www.adamelmakias.com

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Edited & Produced by Connor Gaskey

This week on the podcast please welcome Josh Terry who is the manager of Mayday Parade and one of the founders of Sad Summer Festival. This episode felt like a masterclass in mentorships thanks to Josh having a sea of knowledge for us to listen to. Make sure to make out to Sad Summer Festival this season - you won’t want to miss it.  

In this episode of the Don’t Shit On The Bus podcast we will learn:

• How Josh made the jump from managing bands to starting a festival
• What are the most important skills needed to grow in the music industry
• Skills mentors need to have to be able to pass on their knowledge to their mentees
• How COVID help Josh improve on his own skills for Sad Summer Festival

(00:00) Intro
(02:03) Patreon
(02:56) Josh gets on the bus
(03:43) How long Josh has been in the music industry
(05:02) When Josh started working in the music industry
(13:01) How Josh finds the right type of people to have intern for him
(20:20) What makes for a great mentor
(23:44) What it means to do the "un-cool" things"
(27:54) Red flags Josh looks out for before bringing someone on as an intern
(34:30) Knowing when to let someone make the wrong decision
(40:26) Josh's transition from being a manager to starting a festival
(49:46) Entry points to work for Sad Summer Fest
(53:57) Wrap up notes
(54:04) Shower Shoes

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Josh Terry - Guest

► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/joshterrymgmt
► Workshop Managment: http://workshopmgmt.com
► Sad Summer Fest: https://www.sadsummerfest.com

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Don't Shit On The Bus Podcast

► Website: http://www.dontshitonthebus.com

► Spotify: http://bit.ly/DSotBspotify
► Apple Podcasts: http://bit.ly/DSotBapple

► TikTok: https://tiktok.com/@dontshitonthebus
► Twitter: https://twitter.com/DSotBpodcast
► Instagram: https://instagram.com/DSotBpodcast
► Facebook: https://facebook.com/DSotBpodcast

► Patreon: https://patreon.com/DSotB

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Adam Elmakias - Host

► Twitter: https://twitter.com/elmakias
► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/elmakias
► Website: https://www.adamelmakias.com

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Edited & Produced by Connor Gaskey

Everyone welcome to the bus Vinny Mauro - the drummer for Motionless In White. Lovely to hear his progression as a drummer throughout the past ten years. I originally met Vinny on the road 8 years ago - catch him on The Trinity of Terror tour right now. LAN party sometime soon?

In this episode of the Don’t Shit On The Bus podcast we will learn:

• How Vinny’s first tour ever was with Motionless in White
• The evolution of Motionless and White’s careers from supporting acts to headlining tours
• Why Vinny was almost not a member of Motionless in White
• What Vinny had to overcome his low mental points

(00:00) Intro
(02:07) Patreon
(02:58) Vinny gets on the bus
(04:09) Video games
(09:54) How Vinny started touring with Motionless in White
(17:28) Expectations for the road
(24:13) What it is like being a support act
(26:25) Homelife while being away on tour
(29:53) Vinny becoming a full-time member of Motionless in White
(34:49) Low mental points
(37:24) Putting on a smile for a show
(41:14) Triple headlining tour
(47:24) What Vinny did during COVID
(51:36) Wrap up notes
(52:17) Shower Shoes

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Vinny Mauro - Guest

► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/chenzomauro
► Twitter: https://twitter.com/chenzomauro
► Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/sachetti/

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Don't Shit On The Bus Podcast

► Website: http://www.dontshitonthebus.com

► Spotify: http://bit.ly/DSotBspotify
► Apple Podcasts: http://bit.ly/DSotBapple

► TikTok: https://tiktok.com/@dontshitonthebus
► Twitter: https://twitter.com/DSotBpodcast
► Instagram: https://instagram.com/DSotBpodcast
► Facebook: https://facebook.com/DSotBpodcast

► Patreon: https://patreon.com/DSotB

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Adam Elmakias - Host

► Twitter: https://twitter.com/elmakias
► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/elmakias
► Website: https://www.adamelmakias.com

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Edited & Produced by Connor Gaskey

Matt Halpern is the Drummer of Periphery and one of the creators behind Get Good Drums. I love how balanced and intentional he is with his life and it was a pleasure to learn from him for an hour. Congrats on creating a human with your life, I look forward to experiencing the joys of life you are experiencing right now. See you in real life soon!  

In this episode of the Don’t Shit On The Bus podcast we will learn:

• How Matt found a balance between the touring world and family life
• Several methods Matt uses to help with anxiety on and off the road
• How having a child has changed Matt’s life during COVID
• The tremendous growth of Matt’s career and business over the last decade

(00:00) Intro
(02:12) Patreon
(02:53) Matt gets on the bus
(03:59) Matt's first year with his kid
(07:38) Touring life prepping for raising a child
(10:28) Having a child during COVID
(13:58) Being okay with missing events and moments
(17:56) Arguing with your bandmates
(24:18) Going back on the road
(25:55) Get Good Drums
(28:06) Matt's growth and successes over the last decade
(29:44) Book recommendations
(42:35) How Matt controls his anxiety on the road
(47:23) How Adam and Matt met
(53:58) Wrap up notes
(54:33) Shower Shoes

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Matt Halpern - Guest

► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mattperiphery
► Twitter: https://twitter.com/MattPeriphery
► Get Good Drums: https://www.getgooddrums.com

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Don't Shit On The Bus Podcast

► Website: http://www.dontshitonthebus.com

► Spotify: http://bit.ly/DSotBspotify
► Apple Podcasts: http://bit.ly/DSotBapple

► TikTok: https://tiktok.com/@dontshitonthebus
► Twitter: https://twitter.com/DSotBpodcast
► Instagram: https://instagram.com/DSotBpodcast
► Facebook: https://facebook.com/DSotBpodcast

► Patreon: https://patreon.com/DSotB

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Adam Elmakias - Host

► Twitter: https://twitter.com/elmakias
► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/elmakias
► Website: https://www.adamelmakias.com

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Edited & Produced by Connor Gaskey

Everyone welcome the wonderful team behind your favorite party - Emo Nite. If you haven’t been to Emo Nite yet, I highly recommend it. Morgan & T.J. put their passion and lives into this project and it shows. Was a pleasure to talk with them on how they started working together, became friends and what their future goals are for Emo Nite. If you are going to Coachella make sure to catch their set. Otherwise chances are - Emo Nite is in a city near you sometime soon. I look forward to the next time I get to hang out with these humans.  

In this episode of the Don’t Shit On The Bus podcast we will learn:

• What makes Emo Nite stand out from other parties
• How Morgan and T.J. create an ever-evolving party
• The steady growth of Emo Nite from small venues to performing at Coachella
• Why emo music is coming back in popularity

(00:00) Intro
(04:04) Patreon
(05:21) T.J. and Morgan get on the bus
(08:12) How T.J. and Morgan got into emo music
(16:12) Why music from our teens sticks with us
(24:08) How Morgan and T.J. met
(26:57) Working together
(32:34) Convincing musicians to partake in Emo Nite early on
(34:17) Working directly with artists
(39:35) Relating to the artist that performs at Emo Nite
(40:38) Keeping Emo Nite Focused
(45:23) How T.J. and Morgan measure success
(50:06) Wrap up notes

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T.J Petracca - Guest

► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/tjpetracca
► Twitter: https://twitter.com/tjpetracca
► Ride Or Cry: https://rideorcry.com

Morgan Freed - Guest

► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/partywizard
► Twitch: https://twitter.com/aolfreetrial
► Ride Or Cry: https://rideorcry.com

Emo Nite

► Website: https://emonite.com
► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/emonitela
► Twitter: https://twitter.com/emonitela

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Don't Shit On The Bus Podcast

► Website: http://www.dontshitonthebus.com

► Spotify: http://bit.ly/DSotBspotify
► Apple Podcasts: http://bit.ly/DSotBapple

► TikTok: https://tiktok.com/@dontshitonthebus
► Twitter: https://twitter.com/DSotBpodcast
► Instagram: https://instagram.com/DSotBpodcast
► Facebook: https://facebook.com/DSotBpodcast

► Patreon: https://patreon.com/DSotB

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Adam Elmakias - Host

► Twitter: https://twitter.com/elmakias
► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/elmakias
► Website: https://www.adamelmakias.com

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Edited & Produced by Connor Gaskey

This week we have the amazing Jason Richardson on the podcast. Jason joined his first touring band while he was still in high school. He started off with All Shall Perish, then joined Born Of Osiris, next Chelsea Grin - and most recently has joined All That Remains. Jason also has an insane solo career - make sure you check him out on youtube. What I really like about Jason is how good he is at guitar. The man has turned his job into a science. I respect that, and admire his work ethic. Thank you for your time and knowledge Jason, I have learned a lot from you and look forward to learning more.  

In this episode of the Don’t Shit On The Bus podcast we will learn:

• How Jason has consistently progressed his career
• The qualities required of a guitar tech from the musician's point of view
• How Jason became the new member of All That Remains
• The differences between being a solo artist and a member of a band

(00:00) Intro
(02:51) Patreon
(04:31) Jason gets on the bus
(06:41) How Jason got into music
(12:56) Jason’s history with playing the guitar
(13:06) Touring at 17
(15:30) Moving forward after All Shall Perish
(18:25) Not feeling at home on the road
(20:45) Touring with Chelsea Grin
(24:23) Discussing Jason’s solo career
(31:52) What makes a good guitar tech
(35:54) Differences between a solo career and being in a band
(46:29) The influence Lindsey Stirling had on Jason’s solo career
(53:18) Learning a band's whole catalog
(55:32) Jason playing the guitar
(57:23) How Jason became a member of All That Remains
(01:02:26) Wrap up notes
(01:04:21) Shower Shoes

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Jason Richardson - Guest

► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jasonreevesrichardson
► YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/JasonRichardsonGuitar
► Website: https://www.jasonrichardsonmusic.com

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Don't Shit On The Bus Podcast

► Website: http://www.dontshitonthebus.com

► Spotify: http://bit.ly/DSotBspotify
► Apple Podcasts: http://bit.ly/DSotBapple

► TikTok: https://tiktok.com/@dontshitonthebus
► Twitter: https://twitter.com/DSotBpodcast
► Instagram: https://instagram.com/DSotBpodcast
► Facebook: https://facebook.com/DSotBpodcast

► Patreon: https://patreon.com/DSotB

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Adam Elmakias - Host

► Twitter: https://twitter.com/elmakias
► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/elmakias
► Website: https://www.adamelmakias.com

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Edited & Produced by Connor Gaskey

This week we welcome Paris Visone, an amazing Music Photographer and solid friend. Paris has created her career out of working with artists - not for them. Which I think is an important distinction to make. When you tour with someone, your work as a photographer is a reflection of your relationship with that artist. Arguably even more important - that artist’s relationship with you. Paris has been touring for over 10 years and during those years has created some very unique work with artists such as Limp Bizkit, New Found Glory, & Godsmack. It was great to catch up with her, a pleasure to learn from her - and I hope, as always - you enjoy this conversation as much as I do.

In this episode of the Don’t Shit On The Bus podcast we will learn:

• How Paris was able to tour with Limp Bizkit, New Found Glory, and Godsmack
• Why working one on one with an artist brings out the best content
• How to be a paid touring music photographer
• About being boxed into a certain genre of music

(00:00) Intro
(01:43) Patreon
(02:18) Paris gets on the bus
(04:16) How Adam and Paris know each other
(05:51) How Paris started touring
(10:24) Learning experiences from the road
(14:12) Knowing your place on tour
(19:48) How to get on tour as a photographer
(24:41) Branching out to other genres of music
(27:29) Touring with Limp Bizkit
(30:29) Working one on one with an artist
(38:33) Perfect content team for on the road
(47:29) How to get paid for your photography
(52:06) Wrap up notes
(53:20) Shower Shoes

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Paris Visone - Guest

► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/parisvisone
► Twitter: https://twitter.com/ParisVisone
► Website: https://www.parisvisone.com

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Don't Shit On The Bus Podcast

► Website: http://www.dontshitonthebus.com

► Spotify: http://bit.ly/DSotBspotify
► Apple Podcasts: http://bit.ly/DSotBapple

► TikTok: https://tiktok.com/@dontshitonthebus
► Twitter: https://twitter.com/DSotBpodcast
► Instagram: https://instagram.com/DSotBpodcast
► Facebook: https://facebook.com/DSotBpodcast

► Patreon: https://patreon.com/DSotB

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Adam Elmakias - Host

► Twitter: https://twitter.com/elmakias
► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/elmakias
► Website: https://www.adamelmakias.com

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Edited & Produced by Connor Gaskey

This week we have Bing, Manager at Fly South Music Group. I wanted to know more about what the journey to being a manager was like. I usually just end up working with managers. I don’t always know how they acquired their career. Luckily Bing was nice enough to sit down with me and teach me how he did it. I hope that others can find this information useful in their journey.

In this episode of the Don’t Shit On The Bus podcast we will learn:

• How Bing went from working on Warped Tour to managing large bands
• About the skills you need to have as a good manager
• The value of having a flexible job when you’re off the road
• What an A&R do for an artist

(00:00) Intro
(02:04) Patreon
(02:35) Bing gets on the bus
(05:17) How Bing got into the touring world
(10:50) Having a job when you're off the road
(20:41) How Bing made the shift to being. a manager
(27:19) Being a fan of music
(31:36) Making it known what you want to do
(36:41) Skills needed to be a manager
(47:28) What does an A&R do?
(58:53) Wrap up notes
(58:56) Shower Shoes

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Bing - Guest

► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/bingy_wingy
► Twitter: https://twitter.com/bingy_wingy
► Fly South Music Group: https://www.flysouthmusic.com

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Don't Shit On The Bus Podcast

► Website: http://www.dontshitonthebus.com

► Spotify: http://bit.ly/DSotBspotify
► Apple Podcasts: http://bit.ly/DSotBapple

► TikTok: https://tiktok.com/@dontshitonthebus
► Twitter: https://twitter.com/DSotBpodcast
► Instagram: https://instagram.com/DSotBpodcast
► Facebook: https://facebook.com/DSotBpodcast

► Patreon: https://patreon.com/DSotB

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Adam Elmakias - Host

► Twitter: https://twitter.com/elmakias
► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/elmakias
► Website: https://www.adamelmakias.com

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Edited & Produced by Connor Gaskey

This week we have the wonderful Amanda Phelan on the bus! Amanda comes to us from Danny Wimmer Presents - where she is the Director of Talent. Lately I have been noticing a lot of misinformation out there on what actually goes into making a festival happen. Now I do not know what it takes to put on a festival - because I have never done it. Danny Wimmer Presents puts on eight different festivals all over the USA every year. Aftershock, Louder Than Life & Hometown Rising to name a few. I have had the pleasure of attending some of them when I was on tour with A Day To Remember - and damnit, they were a blast. I hope you enjoy this week’s episode with Amanda - it was an absolute pleasure to get to speak with her and learn from her for an hour.  

In this episode of the Don’t Shit On The Bus podcast we will learn:

• How a festival is created from start to show day
• How Amanda helps create festivals for Danny Wimmer Presents
• The misconceptions of When We Were Young Festival
• How promoters pick which artist will perform at a festival

(00:00) Intro
(02:05) Patreon
(03:02) Amanda gets on the bus
(06:34) What it’s like working at Danny Wimmer Presents
(10:21) Amanda's path into the music industry
(15:06) Danny Wimmer Presents Festivals
(17:27) How a festival is created
(25:48) How talent is booked for festivals
(32:35) What determines the lineup order?
(35:32) Announcing a festival
(40:33) What happens on a festival show day
(44:27) How to work for a festival
(47:47) When We Were Young Festival
(55:58) Wrap up notes

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Amanda Phelan - Guest

► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thelittleamanda
► LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/amanda-phelan
► Danny Wimmer Presents: https://dannywimmerpresents.com

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Don't Shit On The Bus Podcast

► Website: http://www.dontshitonthebus.com

► Spotify: http://bit.ly/DSotBspotify
► Apple Podcasts: http://bit.ly/DSotBapple

► TikTok: https://tiktok.com/@dontshitonthebus
► Twitter: https://twitter.com/DSotBpodcast
► Instagram: https://instagram.com/DSotBpodcast
► Facebook: https://facebook.com/DSotBpodcast

► Patreon: https://patreon.com/DSotB

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Adam Elmakias - Host

► Twitter: https://twitter.com/elmakias
► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/elmakias
► Website: https://www.adamelmakias.com

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Edited & Produced by Connor Gaskey

This week we welcome Lucas Keller - the CEO & Founder of Milk & Honey. Milk & Honey is a 21st-century hybrid entertainment company that represents some of the biggest songwriters & producers in the music industry today. David Hodges, Oak Felder, Sir Nolan, and Jenna Andrews to name a few. Lucas played a big role in my career when I was just starting out - and I am thankful for what I was able to learn from him. It is nice to reconnect, and start learning from him again. The music industry is like that sometimes - sometimes you don’t hear from people for 10+ years, and then the next thing you know you are working with them.

In this episode of the Don’t Shit On The Bus podcast we will learn:

• How Lucas was able to form Milk & Honey
• The path Lucas took to become a major music manager
• How important it is to show support for the LGBTQ+ community
• What personality traits Lucas looks for in the people he works with

(00:00) Intro
(02:20) Patreon
(02:46) Lucas gets on the bus
(04:46) What caused Lucas to become a manager
(08:10) How Milk & Honey was created
(15:19) Leaving The Collective to start Milk & Honey
(18:08) Strategies Lucas implemented for success
(24:12) What values Luca s looks for in people
(26:26) Support for the LGBTQ+ community
(29:16) Wrap up notes
(29:25) Shower Shoes

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Lucas Keller - Guest

► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lucasjkeller1
► Twitter: https://twitter.com/lucasjkelleresq
► Website: http://www.milkhoneyla.com

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Don't Shit On The Bus Podcast

► Website: http://www.dontshitonthebus.com

► Spotify: http://bit.ly/DSotBspotify
► Apple Podcasts: http://bit.ly/DSotBapple

► TikTok: https://tiktok.com/@dontshitonthebus
► Twitter: https://twitter.com/DSotBpodcast
► Instagram: https://instagram.com/DSotBpodcast
► Facebook: https://facebook.com/DSotBpodcast

► Patreon: https://patreon.com/DSotB

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Adam Elmakias - Host

► Twitter: https://twitter.com/elmakias
► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/elmakias
► Website: https://www.adamelmakias.com

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Edited & Produced by Connor Gaskey

This week we have the legend Eric Gardner on the podcast. Eric has been working in the industry for over 50 years now. He is the CEO & Founder at Panacea Entertainment and currently manages Paul Shaffer & Todd Rundgren. His career and life are full of amazing stories and I am so happy to have him on to share a few with us today. In the future hopefully we can get him back to tell us more stories.  

In this episode of the Don’t Shit On The Bus podcast we will learn:

• How Eric went from volunteering in New York to touring the world with the Grateful Dead
• What helped push for the creation of multi-colored lights on shows
• About the innovation in monitor technology
• How Eric assisted in live music being performed on the radio

(00:00) Intro
(02:24) Patreon
(02:52) Eric gets on the bus
(03:25) Connecting with the Allman Brothers
(13:44) Asking WBAI to play music
(21:07) Being backstage before all-access passes
(24:15) Eric going on tour with the Grateful Dead
(37:01) Bands without managers
(40:51) Evolution of tech in live music
(47:47) The innovation of concert lighting
(52:40) The best cabbage soup in New York City
(56:46) Wrap up notes
(57:35) Shower Shoes

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Eric Gardner - Guest

► LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/panaceaentertainment
► Website: http://panaceaentertainment.com

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Don't Shit On The Bus Podcast

► Website: http://www.dontshitonthebus.com

► Spotify: http://bit.ly/DSotBspotify
► Apple Podcasts: http://bit.ly/DSotBapple

► TikTok: https://tiktok.com/@dontshitonthebus
► Twitter: https://twitter.com/DSotBpodcast
► Instagram: https://instagram.com/DSotBpodcast
► Facebook: https://facebook.com/DSotBpodcast

► Patreon: https://patreon.com/DSotB

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Adam Elmakias - Host

► Twitter: https://twitter.com/elmakias
► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/elmakias
► Website: https://www.adamelmakias.com

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Edited & Produced by Connor Gaskey

This week we have Chris Gaylord, the bassist for Wage War on the podcast. I haven’t seen Chris in almost three years now but damn was it good to catch up with him. Chris’ band has been touring their asses off for almost ten years now. This most recent tour was their first in a tour bus and I know that feeling all too well. Congrats guys, what a time to be alive.  If you haven’t had a chance to check out Wage War - put on their Spotify, clear all the breakable objects from your vicinity, and just mosh. That is what I do.  

In this episode of the Don’t Shit On The Bus podcast we will learn:

• How Wage War worked their way up from opener to headliner
• What touring looks like post-COVID
• About the comradery of being on a bus with your touring crew
• The challenges for a band to go from a van tour to a bus tour

(00:00) Intro
(02:46) Chris gets on the bus
(03:43) When Chris got back on the road
(09:32) What it's like being on the road post COVID
(12:39) When Chris joined the band
(17:24) Knowing there's a long road ahead
(23:17) When Chris started making money through music
(31:53) Big "firsts" for the band
(37:31) Seeing a band not giving it their all
(48:16) Tour Tales
(01:01:37) Wrap up notes
(01:02:36) Shower Shoes


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Chris Gaylord - Guest

► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/chriswarreng
► Twitter: https://twitter.com/ChrisWarrenG
► Website: http://www.wagewarband.com

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Don't Shit On The Bus Podcast

► Website: http://www.dontshitonthebus.com

► Spotify: http://bit.ly/DSotBspotify
► Apple Podcasts: http://bit.ly/DSotBapple

► Twitter: https://twitter.com/DSotBpodcast
► Instagram: https://instagram.com/DSotBpodcast
► Facebook: https://facebook.com/DSotBpodcast

► Patreon: https://patreon.com/DSotB

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Adam Elmakias - Host

► Twitter: https://twitter.com/elmakias
► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/elmakias
► Website: https://www.adamelmakias.com

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Edited & Produced by Connor Gaskey

This week we have Kelen Capener of The Story So Far on the podcast. Kelen is a kind human I respect and admire. He makes jokes that are so believable they often go over my head and you will witness this multiple times throughout the podcast. I was happy to catch up with him because well, we haven't spoken in a long time. It was nice to catch up on what he has been up to in life as well as revisit some memories we have together. This was a great chat, thank you Kelen

In this episode of the Don’t Shit On The Bus podcast we will learn:

• Kelen enjoying of pranking people throughout his career in music
• Thoughts on When We Were Young Festival
• The insignificance of verifications on social platforms
• How Kelen learned to cope with no live music during COVID

(00:00) Intro
(02:25) Kelen gets on the bus
(04:31) The 3 H's
(05:00) How Adam heard about Kelen's band
(11:47) Kelen's band touring with ADTR
(17:54) Super Bowl night in Germany
(20:30) When We Were Young Festival
(27:10) Kelen's high school music teacher
(34:46) Panda Express and Guitar Center
(40:39) Catfishing on Warped Tour
(41:31) Lessons learned on the road
(46:23) What Covid taught Kelen
(50:47) Made up characters
(57:34) Wrap up notes
(01:00:18) Hockey question
(01:02:44) Shower Shoes

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Kelen Capener - Guest

► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kelenkeller
► Twitter: https://twitter.com/KelenKeller38
► Website: http://thestorysofarca.com

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Don't Shit On The Bus Podcast

► Website: http://www.dontshitonthebus.com

► Spotify: http://bit.ly/DSotBspotify
► Apple Podcasts: http://bit.ly/DSotBapple

► TikTok: https://tiktok.com/@dontshitonthebus
► Twitter: https://twitter.com/DSotBpodcast
► Instagram: https://instagram.com/DSotBpodcast
► Facebook: https://facebook.com/DSotBpodcast

► Patreon: https://patreon.com/DSotB

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Adam Elmakias - Host

► Twitter: https://twitter.com/elmakias
► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/elmakias
► Website: https://www.adamelmakias.com

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Edited & Produced by Connor Gaskey

This week we have my good friend Daniel Nickleski on the podcast. Daniel owns and operates Sound Works out of Illinois and currently tours with Kygo. Daniel and I set off with the intention to talk about how COVID has affected the music industry - and we did do that, a little bit. But to be honest we mostly got lost in the sauce and just started talking about touring in general and tossed in some COVID here and there - and eventually dug up some embarrassing tour stories. All in all I think it’s a very well-balanced and fun episode. As always - I hope you enjoy it as much as I do.  

In this episode of the Don’t Shit On The Bus podcast we will learn:

• How Daniel went from touring for 10 years with All Time Low to being a weekend warrior with Kygo
• About an average day of a touring DJ crew
• How Daniel juggles running Sound Works and touring
• The importance of being a good hang on tour

(00:00) Intro
(03:16) Daniel gets on the bus
(04:31) Dan’s early years in music
(07:11) How Dan got started in the music industry
(12:40) Taking a step back from touring
(21:18) Getting back on the road with Kygo
(30:26) What a workday with Kygo is like
(41:11) Touring during Covid
(52:11) What makes a good crew member
(54:22) Stories from the road
(01:01:02) Wrap up notes
(01:04:29) Shower Shoes

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Johnny Minardi - Guest

► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/soundworksdan
► Sound Works: https://www.soundworkspro.com/

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Don't Shit On The Bus Podcast

► Website: http://www.dontshitonthebus.com

► Spotify: http://bit.ly/DSotBspotify
► Apple Podcasts: http://bit.ly/DSotBapple

► Twitter: https://twitter.com/DSotBpodcast
► Instagram: https://instagram.com/DSotBpodcast
► Facebook: https://facebook.com/DSotBpodcast

► Patreon: https://patreon.com/DSotB

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Adam Elmakias - Host

► Twitter: https://twitter.com/elmakias
► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/elmakias
► Website: https://www.adamelmakias.com

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Edited & Produced by Connor Gaskey

This week we have the wonderful Lindsey McLemore on the podcast to talk about street teams. Street teams were much more popular back in the early 2000’s - however, they do still exist today in a more refined form. Lindsey is a marketing manager at The Syndicate and works with them closely to help bring labels, bands, managers’ marketing dreams to life. They have done some remarkable projects with artists such as Panic! At The Disco and LCD Soundsystem. We think street teams are a great way for anyone to get started in the music industry - so we figured we would break it down for you and teach you what exactly it is they do. I hope you enjoy this week's episode!

In this episode of the Don’t Shit On The Bus podcast we will learn:

• How street teams help promote artists today
• About how Lindsey from working at Lollapalooza to leading a street team
• The importance of reaching out to your local promoters and venues
• How labels work with independent street teams

(00:00) Intro
(05:19) Lindsey gets on the bus
(06:39) The goal of the episode
(08:41) How Lindsey got into the music industry
(10:36) What street teams used to be like
(18:38) How Lindsey got to where she's at now
(23:19) Skills Lindsey learned early on in the office
(26:15) Street teaming for Lollapalooza
(29:25) How Lindsey started working with The Syndicate
(32:04) What do street teams do currently
(36:38) Who is The Syndicate
(41:41) Panic At The Disco Story
(50:58) How to get involved with the Syndicate
(56:51) Wrap up notes
(58:12) Shower Shoes

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Lindsey McLemore - Guest

► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lindseyannajones
► The Syn: https://www.thesyn.com

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Don't Shit On The Bus Podcast

► Website: http://www.dontshitonthebus.com

► Spotify: http://bit.ly/DSotBspotify
► Apple Podcasts: http://bit.ly/DSotBapple

► Twitter: https://twitter.com/DSotBpodcast
► Instagram: https://instagram.com/DSotBpodcast
► Facebook: https://facebook.com/DSotBpodcast

► Patreon: https://patreon.com/DSotB

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Adam Elmakias - Host

► Twitter: https://twitter.com/elmakias
► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/elmakias
► Website: https://www.adamelmakias.com

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Edited & Produced by Connor Gaskey

Starting 2022 off with a banger! So happy to have the legend that is Johnny Minardi on the podcast. Johnny is the VP of A&R at Elektra records and one of the most inspiring people I have had the pleasure of speaking with. Through consistently finding the right path Johnny has created a well-rounded and balanced life with a great support network. This setup allows him to crush goals, inspire his peers, and teach the next generation on the way. I think we can all agree this is definitely something we are all working towards in our own lives and careers. Thank you for your knowledge Johnny, we collectively appreciate you!

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Book Recommendations

Essentialism
Almanac of Naval Ravikant
The One Thing
Good to Great
Lynch Pin
Drinking With Strangers
Sell Out





In this episode of the Don’t Shit On The Bus podcast we will learn:

• How Johnny went from working on street teams in Chicago to being the VP of A&R for Elektra Music Group
• How taking chances and rolling with the flow can create positive results
• That it is so important to have a positive mindset when meeting people
• What systems Johnny has in place to have a good support system around him

(00:00) Intro
(03:17) Johnny gets on the bus
(04:30) What does a VP of A&R do?
(08:02) Working within subsidiary labels
(09:52) When Johnny and Adam first met
(10:45) Being hired on to work at Fueled By Ramen
(15:06) How Johnny got started in the music industry
(17:49) The first goal, working in the industry
(26:21) From LLR Records to working at Fueled By Ramen
(33:48) Being let go by Fueled By Ramen, working at Equal Vision, then back to Fueled By Ramen
(39:48) Going into situations with the right mindset
(43:02) Building a solid support system around you
(48:00) Top three nu-metal artist
(49:08) How Johnny finds new music and artist
(51:18) Top book of 2021 and 2022
(52:39) Failing a goal is okay
(55:27) Wrap up notes
(55:40) Shower Shoes

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Johnny Minardi - Guest

► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/johnnyminardi
► Twitter:https://twitter.com/johnnyminardi
► Label: https://www.elektramusicgroup.com/

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Adam Elmakias - Host

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This week we are trying something new - and if you like it, let us know and we will do more of it! I invited a few of my friends to the show to tell some of their favorite tour stories. Thank you so much to you all for joining me. If you are an experienced touring person - hit me up and we will get you on the next episode of Tour Tales, or whatever we end up calling this series. Happy holidays to everyone! See you next year!  

In this episode of the Don’t Shit On The Bus podcast we will learn:

• Loni Robinson’s Killswitch Engage story
• Tanner Wayne’s In Flames story
• Michelle Grace H’s security guard story
• Casey Ervin’s Panic At The Disco story

(00:00) Intro
(02:09) Patreon
(05:52) Loni gets on the bus
(07:18) Loni's touring experience
(12:32) Knowing when to tell the right story
(13:53) Loni’s Killswitch Engage Story
(22:21) Lesson Learned
(25:25) Loni’s Pee Story
(27:33) Wrap up notes
(27:52) Shower Shoes
(28:26) Tanner gets on the bus
(29:51) Running around in a Canadian parking lot
(31:10) In Flames Story
(39:05) How to properly react to a bad situation
(42:47) Wrap up notes
(43:02) Michelle gets on the bus
(44:26) Michelle’s Security guard story
(52:40) Wrap up notes
(53:40) Casey gets on the bus
(55:08) Casey's Panic At The Disco Story
(01:02:09) Casey’sBrussels Story
(01:06:05) Wrap up notes
(01:06:07) Shower Shoes

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Loni Robinson- Guest

► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lonielrobinson

Tanner Wayne- Guest

► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/tannerwayne

Michelle Grace Hunder - Guest

► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/michelleghunder

Casey Ervin- Guest

► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/caseylouiservin

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Don't Shit On The Bus Podcast

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Adam Elmakias - Host

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► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/elmakias
► Website: https://www.adamelmakias.com

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Edited & Produced by Connor Gaskey

This week we welcome Katie Robinson the VP of Marketing at Electra Music Group to the podcast! Katie started her journey in the industry over 15 years ago. She has slowly climbed her way to the top and is very knowledgeable on how labels of all levels operate. In this episode she breakdowns everything we need to understand before we can go any deeper on learning about labels. I’m excited to continue our journey into understanding the different areas of the music industry and Think this episode will be a great primer for future deep dives. Thank you Katie for joining us.  

In this episode of the Don’t Shit On The Bus podcast we will learn:

• How Katie has been able to work with the top record labels in the country
• About the different departments that operate at a label
• What a 360 deal is and how deals are made by labels today
• How to get a job at a record label

(00:00) Intro
(02:49) Patreon
(03:30) Katie gets on the bus
(05:23) How Katie got started in the music industry
(11:05) How Katie navigated through the music industry
(13:47) Katie's first job in the music industry
(19:22) What is a record label and what is their goal
(26:04) Seeing all the pieces come together (What Katie does
(29:47) Teams on labels and how they scale
(32:30) The different departments of a label
(39:19) What is a 360 deal and how are deals different today
(43:09) What the life cycle of an album looks like
(49:27) How a couple of record labels own most other record labels
(54:19) How Katie balances work and life
(01:00:13) How to start working at a label
(01:03:21) Wrap up notes
(01:03:57) Shower Shoes

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Katie Robinson - Guest

► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/katie_rob1nson
► Twitter: https://twitter.com/katie_rob1nson
► Label: https://www.elektramusicgroup.com/

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Don't Shit On The Bus Podcast

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► Patreon: https://patreon.com/DSotB

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Adam Elmakias - Host

► Twitter: https://twitter.com/elmakias
► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/elmakias
► Website: https://www.adamelmakias.com

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Edited & Produced by Connor Gaskey

This week we are joined by Melissa Hemingway of Fly South Music Group. Melissa is the Merch Director at Fly South. She started out in Illinois going to college and then moved to Florida to work for Fueled By Ramen right around the time of its conception. I like Melissa’s journey because it does not involve touring - which has been the minority case for us on the podcast. I think I am most impressed by how different areas of the industry collaborate and work with the artists themselves. To me, that is one of the most fun parts, but at the same time can be the most challenging. No two artists are the same, and each one takes a specific set of skills to work with successfully. Thank you Melissa for sharing your journey and knowledge with us this week. Enjoy!  

In this episode of the Don’t Shit On The Bus podcast we will learn:

• The difference between a merchandise director and a tour merch
• About Melissa working at the early days of Fueled By Ramen
• What goes into designing band merch
• The importance of merchandise for an artist or band

(00:00) Intro
(02:18) Patreon
(02:55) Melissa gets on the bus
(05:37) What does a merch director do?
(06:46) How Melissa started out in the music industry
(10:06) Working at Fueled By Ramen
(15:01) When Melissa become a merchandise director
(16:43) How merch is created for an artist
(18:59) The growing focus of merch in an artist's career
(21:45) Working with an artist on their merch
(24:26) Being the communicator between artists and designers
(27:53) How to become a designer for an artist
(31:58) Interning at companies
(35:54) Barriers for women in the industry
(39:47) How a tour merch line is created
(45:58) The retail side of band merch
(49:13) Fly South
(52:40) Wrap up notes
(53:47) Shower Shoes

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Melissa Hemingway - Guest

► Fly South Music Group: https://www.flysouthmusic.com

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Don't Shit On The Bus Podcast

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► Patreon: https://patreon.com/DSotB

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Adam Elmakias - Host

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► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/elmakias
► Website: https://www.adamelmakias.com

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Edited & Produced by Connor Gaskey


#dsotb #fueledbyramen #merchdirector

This week we have Entertainment Lawyer Eric German on the show. Eric is a good example of how we are all really just fans. He loved music as a kid and found a way to make a career in it. Something that really stuck out to me about Eric is how involved he is with his clients on a daily basis. He puts his relationships before everything, and it really shows. I enjoyed his outlook on how to do business and maintain your focus. Thanks again for joining me eric.

In this episode of the Don’t Shit On The Bus podcast we will learn:

• What the heck an entertainment lawyer does
• About Eric’s involvement in landmark cases for Napster and Limewire
• When to use a contract as an agreement
• How a lawyer forms relationships with their artist

(00:00) Intro
(02:31) Patreon
(03:29) Eric gets on the bus
(05:56) What does an entertainment lawyer do?
(09:03) When Eric started being an entertainment lawyer
(15:26) How Eric combined law and music
(19:43) Being able to vibe with people
(27:50) How a lawyer improvers their relationship with an artist
(36:01) Intellectual property
(44:10) What an artist can and can't say to a crowd
(47:50) What is a DMCA notice?
(52:17) How to understand contracts
(01:01:10) Wrap up notes
(01:04:28) Shower Shoes


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Eric German - Guest

► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ejgerman
► Twitter: https://twitter.com/ejgerman
► Law Firm: https://www.msk.com

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Don't Shit On The Bus Podcast

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► Patreon: https://patreon.com/DSotB

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Adam Elmakias - Host

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► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/elmakias
► Website: https://www.adamelmakias.com

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Edited & Produced by Connor Gaskey

This week we have the legendary Dave Shapiro on the podcast! Dave is most well known for his relentless work ethic as a booking agent that has led to the success of countless bands. When it comes to being a booking agent - Dave is one of the best to learn from. After climbing his way to the top at The Agency Group - Dave started his own company called Sound Talent Group based out of his San Diego airport hangar. Fast forward a few years and he is running stronger than ever. His agency represents a variety of different bands and books their tours. In addition to this Dave also owns Velocity Records. Hope you guys have a blast listening to this one!

In this episode of the Don’t Shit On The Bus podcast we will learn:

• What a booking agent does
• How Dave went from selling merch at a mall kiosk to booking several successful bands
• What the differences are between a promoter and a booking agent
• How a booking agent sets up and routes the tour

(00:00) Intro
(02:14) Patreon
(02:45) Dave gets on the bus
(04:52) What does a booking agent do
(06:12) How Dave got his start in the music industry
(13:05) What it takes to be a booking agent
(15:21) Working with people you like
(17:22) When does an artist need a booking agent
(19:06) Who does the booking agent work with
(21:33) Being able to multitask
(26:30) The different aspects of being a booking agent
(29:44) How a tour is set up and routed


(37:48) Sound Talent Group
(39:14) Putting out fires the day of a show
(41:18) Velocity Records
(43:51) Shower Shoes  
(44:21) Wrap up notes

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Dave Shapiro - Guest

► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/davevelocity
► Sound Talent Group: https://www.soundtalentgroup.com
► Velocity Records: https://velocityrecords.com

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Don't Shit On The Bus Podcast

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► Patreon: https://patreon.com/DSotB

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Adam Elmakias - Host

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► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/elmakias
► Website: https://www.adamelmakias.com

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Edited & Produced by Connor Gaskey

This week we welcome long-time friend and amazing music manager Mike Mowery to the podcast.  Mike Mowery has managed a variety of different artists over his career, however these days he spends the majority of his time working with Ice Nine Kills. Mike is very well-spoken… wait a manager, well-spoken? No way! But really, I was very impressed with everything he had to say. Very concise, straight to the point - and honest. I love how deeply he has thought about all the topics we discussed and I could tell he truly cares about his job and spends his life trying to take it to another level. Thank you Mike! Enjoy my friends.  

In this episode of the Don’t Shit On The Bus podcast we will learn:

• What a manager does in the music world
• How Mike went from being in a small punk band to managing notable bands
• How a manager and band work together to grow the bands brand
• That managers alone can not make an artist larger than they already are

(00:00) Intro
(02:19) Patreon
(03:17) Mike gets on the bus
(06:28) How Mike became a manager
(12:35) What does a manager do?
(17:37) When does an artist bring on a manager
(19:48) Skills needed to be a manager
(26:18) An average day for a manager
(34:30) How a manager goes about working with different styles of bands
(37:45)

The type of decisions managers help artists make
(45:05) What the pay structure is like for a manager
(51:13) Why some managers don't have contracts with their artist
(56:05) Wrap up notes  
(56:08) Shower Shoes

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Mike Mowery - Guest

► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mikeoloop
► Twitter: https://twitter.com/mikeoloop
► Outerloop: https://outerloop.group

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Don't Shit On The Bus Podcast

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► Instagram: https://instagram.com/DSotBpodcast
► Facebook: https://facebook.com/DSotBpodcast

► Patreon: https://patreon.com/DSotB

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Adam Elmakias - Host

► Twitter: https://twitter.com/elmakias
► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/elmakias
► Website: https://www.adamelmakias.com

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Edited & Produced by Connor Gaskey

This week we are doing something a little bit different. We are discussing a current event. Please welcome back Sully Sullivan from Episode 28. Sully was nice enough to sit down and explain to me what happened at Travis Scott's Astroworld fest. I had been seeing a lot of information floating around online and I wanted some solid answers from someone who was well informed on what goes into putting on a festival. Our goal is to not point any fingers, and place any blame on any one party. But rather just learn how we can all do better in the future. I hope you enjoy this conversation as much as I did. Sending love to the lives that were lost at the event. I feel terrible this happened to them.  

In this episode of the Don’t Shit On The Bus podcast we will learn:

• What happened at Astroworld
• How to keep yourself safe at a festival or show
• About the techniques security uses at shows to keep the crowd under control
• What the possible future of shows will look like

(00:00) Intro
(02:55) Patreon
(04:27) Sully gets on the bus
(06:58) Having security ready way before doors
(10:06) What security looks like today compared to the past
(17:05) Shows needing to take control
(19:12) How security controls rough crowds
(21:54) How to be safe at a concert or festival
(32:16) What has to happen for a show to be stopped
(49:02)

Artist responsobiltiy
(01:01:48) Concert safety need to be improve
(01:03:20) Wrap up notes  

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Sully - Guest

► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sully_waterloo
► Security Company: https://www.facebook.com/WATERLOOSOLUTIONSLLC

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Don't Shit On The Bus Podcast

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► Twitter: https://twitter.com/DSotBpodcast
► Instagram: https://instagram.com/DSotBpodcast
► Facebook: https://facebook.com/DSotBpodcast

► Patreon: https://patreon.com/DSotB

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Adam Elmakias - Host

► Twitter: https://twitter.com/elmakias
► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/elmakias
► Website: https://www.adamelmakias.com

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Edited & Produced by Connor Gaskey

This week we have the amazing Brittanie to talk about being a Tour Promoter. We have talked about so many jobs that exist on tour - but there is a whole other group of jobs that make it possible to even have a tour. A Tour Promoter is one of those jobs. It is also a job I thought I knew a lot about, but in fact I didn’t know much about. Their job is very important when it comes to booking a tour, selecting venues - and then of course, promoting the tour! I took this opportunity to ask Brittianie all the questions I had on the topic - and she definitely answered all of them and more. Thanks again for joining me Brittanie - enjoy the episode everyone!  

In this episode of the Don’t Shit On The Bus podcast we will learn:

• How a tour is routed
• The complexity of working with venues and other artists as a Tour Promoter
• What Brittanie did to build out her position at AEG
• How a Promoter works with an artist’s team to help grow that artist

(00:00) Intro
(02:06) Patreon
(03:46) Brittanie gets on the bus
(05:01) What does a Promoter do on tour?
(05:21) How Brittanie got started in music
(13:21) Working and learning from Dave Shapiro  
(16:30) Working for AEG
(20:04) How a tour is booked out
(23:56) What an agent and local Promoter settle on
(27:42) How does an artist gets paid
(29:12) How Promoters negotiate for more money
(39:17) How a Promoter helps an artist get to their next career level
(44:57) Skills to be up to date as a Promoter
(48:59) How are lineups made
(51:50) Wrap up notes  
(52:15) Shower Shoes


Don't Shit On The Bus Podcast

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► Instagram: https://instagram.com/DSotBpodcast
► Facebook: https://facebook.com/DSotBpodcast

► Patreon: https://patreon.com/DSotB

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Adam Elmakias - Host

► Twitter: https://twitter.com/elmakias
► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/elmakias
► Website: https://www.adamelmakias.com

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Edited & Produced by Connor Gaskey

This week we have arguably one of the most important touring jobs on the show - the Bus Driver. Everyone meet Moose - your new favorite bus driver. Moose has spent the last 20 years of his life touring, a good portion of it - driving. However, what I really liked about Moose is that he slowly worked his way up to becoming a bus driver. A lot of drivers are lifers - they have been doing it their whole life and it is all they know. There is nothing wrong with that - in fact, I think it’s quite awesome. However our guest’s story this week was quite relatable to any touring job, and I liked that. Hope you enjoy this week’s episode - I learned a lot and look forward to being a better bus rider in the future. Thanks, Moose.

In this episode of the Don’t Shit On The Bus podcast we will learn:

• The different tiers of vehicles bands use to tour
• How Moose creates a comfortable touring experience for artists
• Moose’s journey from being in a touring band to a touring bus driver
• How to show appreciation to your driver on tour

(00:00) Intro
(01:48) Patreon
(02:57) Moose gets on the bus
(03:15) How Moose got on the road
(06:28) After Moose's first tour
(11:16) Difference between bandwagon and tour bus  
(16:40) Why do some bands try to cut costs with drivers
(18:32) The best place for an artist in their career
(21:23) How Moose went from bandwagons to buses
(27:20) An average day for a driver
(36:05) Why artists have problems with drivers
(43:12) Expectations of a bus driver
(48:14) The tiers of buses
(51:32) How bus drivers stay up all night
(59:29) Why you can't shit on the bus
(01:05:46) Wrap up notes  
(01:08:43) Shower Shoes


Don't Shit On The Bus Podcast

► Website: http://www.dontshitonthebus.com

► Spotify: http://bit.ly/DSotBspotify
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► TikTok: https://tiktok.com/@dontshitonthebus
► Twitter: https://twitter.com/DSotBpodcast
► Instagram: https://instagram.com/DSotBpodcast
► Facebook: https://facebook.com/DSotBpodcast

► Patreon: https://patreon.com/DSotB

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Adam Elmakias - Host

► Twitter: https://twitter.com/elmakias
► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/elmakias
► Website: https://www.adamelmakias.com

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Edited & Produced by Connor Gaskey

Everyone welcome the awesome Danny Kurily to the podcast! Like most guests, Danny is a good friend - but even more importantly, a true badass. I have always admired how Danny has navigated the music industry and his life in general. It was a true pleasure to sit down and learn from him. We toured together with All Time Low a few times about 10 years ago, and the next thing I know he is living in LA as a personal assistant. Fast forward a few years he is running VIP for Demi Lovato. I could barely keep up with him and I wanted to know more. So this week we sat down, and had a good chat about it all. Enjoy!

In this episode of the Don’t Shit On The Bus podcast we will learn:

• About the range of jobs Danny took during his time touring
• Ways to translate your touring skills to other jobs
• How Danny went from touring with top artists to running a successful house management company
• When touring isn’t sparking interest any longer

(00:00) Intro
(02:18) Patreon
(03:10) Danny gets on the bus
(06:43) What life was like before touring
(10:27) Going from a day job to a tour job
(12:14) Touring expectations at the beginning  
(16:14) Staying up to date with your skills
(18:49) Other jobs Danny had on the road
(24:53) Skills Danny took from his day job to touring
(28:25) When the shininess of tour went away for Danny
(30:38) The hardest part of leaving a tour
(35:05) What made Danny not want to tour any longer
(39:16) Red flags that see when you need to get off the road
(42:02) Danny's starting DK Home Management
(49:55) Wrap up notes  
(54:37) Shower Shoes

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Danny Kurily - Guest

► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dannykurily/
► Twitter: https://twitter.com/dannykurily
► Website: https://dkhomemgmt.com/

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Don't Shit On The Bus Podcast

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► Spotify: http://bit.ly/DSotBspotify
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► TikTok: https://tiktok.com/@dontshitonthebus
► Twitter: https://twitter.com/DSotBpodcast
► Instagram: https://instagram.com/DSotBpodcast
► Facebook: https://facebook.com/DSotBpodcast

► Patreon: https://patreon.com/DSotB

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Adam Elmakias - Host

► Twitter: https://twitter.com/elmakias
► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/elmakias
► Website: https://www.adamelmakias.com

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Edited & Produced by Connor Gaskey

This week we have Brooke on the podcast! I got to hang out with Brooke a few weeks ago at a wedding and the whole time I was just thinking - I need to know more about what she does for a living. We met once before, but never really got the time to sit down and know her - now I have! Brooke is a stylist that has worked with Demi Lovato, SIA, and St. Vincent to name a few. I never realized what a big role a stylist plays in someone's look. After the fact, it kind of seemed like a no-brainer, and I am not sure how I overlooked it before. As always I hope you genuinely enjoy this episode as much as I did. Any week I get to learn about someone else’s job on the road is a good week for me.  

In this episode of the Don’t Shit On The Bus podcast we will learn:

• How Brooke started being a stylist
• What it’s like being on tour for most of the year
• How Brooke went from being a photo assistant to a lead stylist for A list artist
• How Brooke’s great network of friends helped her tour with Demi Lovato

(00:00) Intro
(01:53) Patreon
(02:28) Brooke gets on the bus
(04:32) What does a stylist do
(10:03) The need to have a stylist on your team
(12:03) How Brooke started in styling  
(18:49) Brooke going on tour with Anlias
(27:24) Touring with Demi Lovato
(31:35) Making the best of a situation
(39:19) A stylist schedule on tour
(51:55) What Brooke is working on now
(55:08) What's next for Brooke
(57:02) Wrap up notes  
(57:33) Shower Shoes

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Brooke Llewellyn - Guest

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► Website: http://brooke-llewellyn.squarespace.com/

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Don't Shit On The Bus Podcast

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Adam Elmakias - Host

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Edited & Produced by Connor Gaskey

This week we have Thomas Falcone on the bus! Thomas and I have been friends for a while. He has toured around the world - and I have been lucky enough to have toured with him myself. AV Club reporting for Duty. He started in the Warped Tour world, made his way through hip hop, DJs, and now spends most of his time with the biggest artists you know - such as Big Sean, Shawn Mendes, and John Mayer. Anyway, if there is one thing Thomas is a pro at - it’s being a good dude. He fills every room he enters with his good vibes and this week, we take a dive into what it takes to navigate this industry and make friends along the way.  

In this episode of the Don’t Shit On The Bus podcast we will learn:

• How Thomas started photography
• How to make lasting relationships on tour
• The importance of ending a business relationship the correct way
•  How Thomas made large advances in his career

(00:00) Intro
(03:22) Thomas gets on the bus
(08:01) More than just photography
(10:03) How Thomas became a music photographer
(14:53) The artists Thomas has worked with
(17:45) Finding time to make friends on tour
(25:20) Making transitions from artist to artist
(28:11) Touring with the correct artist for your career
(35:40) How to end a business relationship on good terms
(43:21) How to become internet friends with people
(48:39) Embarrassing social situations
(51:48) Best way to remember names
(53:39) Wrap up notes  
(56:55) Shower Shoes

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Thomas Falcone - Guest

► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thomasfalcone/
► Twitter: https://twitter.com/thomasfalcone
► Website: https://thomasfalcone.com/

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Don't Shit On The Bus Podcast

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► Patreon: https://patreon.com/DSotB

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Adam Elmakias - Host

► Twitter: https://twitter.com/elmakias
► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/elmakias
► Website: https://www.adamelmakias.com

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Edited & Produced by Connor Gaskey